1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh time, Steve, last time. Welcome to one Bills Live, everybody. 2 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm Steve Tasker, joined once again on this beautiful Thursday 3 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: morning in Orchard Park by Joe Biscallia, w KBW Channel 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: seven here in Buffalo sports director. We're talking about the Bills, 5 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: the NFL and all kinds of stuff. As you can 6 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: see there on the MSG the viewers. Jim Kelly Football 7 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: campus going on has been all week. The place is 8 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: crawling with kids and parents. It's a it's a bee 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: hive of activity over here, which is kind of a 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: welcome change given the fact that it's late June, early July, 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and then there is the place is a ghost town 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: unless these people are here. They can hear the wind 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: rustling field house. Yeah. Yeah. They're always doing renovations too. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: We've had in construction going on. They're fixing the roof 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: of the field house as well, which is the guys 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: told me it's not like a four year project. Well, 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still high up in the air. It's 18 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: a roof. It's a daunting task. I would be scared 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: to be well up there. But you've seen the roof 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: of the stairs they take to get up there. Oh, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: it's like a scaffolding outside the building. It's like rickety 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: you know, one inch galvanized pipe holding the ups, you know, 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: ten fifteen stories off the end. That's frightening coming from 24 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: those guys. I don't want any part that that's right, 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: that that's it's a daunting task. But you're here today 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: with me, Steve and Joe. We're here on one Bills Live. 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: You can call us or tweet us the We have 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: a Twitter question out here today and off the top 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: of my head, I really can't remember what it is, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: but it's it's about your training camp remembers. That's why 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I can't remember. It's because um, I put all that 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: stuff out of my head. Training camp. Yeah, training camp 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: is a thing of the past for me. But training 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: camp is fun though. It really is. I mean, hey, 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: you know what this it's the spot or from a 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: media perspective, I get to learn the most about the 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: team because we can actually see the practices in full. 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: We see all these different guys and and see really 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: how they evolve from the startup camp to the end 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: of camp. I love training camp, I really do. It's 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: a bear for some, but I'm I'm so into the 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: nitty gritty of it. I love it. You don't have 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: any emotional scar tissue I can tell. No, we're gonna 44 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna share some training camp stories with you today, 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: stuff from when I was playing, uh, stuff that I remember. 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: Joe's gonna share some of his stories about covering the 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: bills for a decade over at Saint John Fisher. All 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: my training camp days were at sunny Fredonia down in Fredonia, Dunkirk, 49 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: and then also I had a couple of training camps 50 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: in San Angelo, Texas, which it's not the end of 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the world, but you can see the end of the 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: world from San Angelo. Um. I remember spending and this 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: was back in the nineteen mid nineteen eighties when it 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: was a little bit different league back then, and they 55 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: were still treating the players like expendable commodities. And it 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: was not some of the greatest days of my life. 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: But you know, what are you gonna do? I mean, 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: it's it was fun because I was only twenty four, 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and uh, I was built for 60 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, right, you know, two weeks of 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: one hundred degree temperatures. Absolutely, it was it was a 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: difficult that sounds terrible but yeah, but coming up on one, 63 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: coming up on this training camp, right, I can relate 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: to these young draft picks that are coming. I was 65 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: a ninth round draft pick. I was two hundred and 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: twenty six taken overall, and I remember what I remember 67 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 1: vividly what it was like to be on that team 68 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: and be a young receiver with veterans around there. It 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: was it was tough, yeah, I'm sure, and it's especially 70 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: daunting for you know, these these younger guys that might 71 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: not be firmly on the roster. And that's that's why 72 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: training camp you almost see guys get the yips a 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: little bit, it throw up as camp kind of goes on, 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: and it's it's always interesting to see because you could 75 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: have the strongest spring pop and because there's a low 76 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: pressure situation. But once the pads, once the pads go on, 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks get a little bit more more physical to 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: the wide receivers. The offensive line and defensive line starts 79 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: actually laying into each other. I mean, that's that's when 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: you really start to learn about these guys and their 81 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: jobs are one in loss and training camp, which is 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: what makes it so interesting to me and certainly what 83 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: makes it so interesting to fans. Yeah. Plus, and that's 84 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: the question, what is your favorite memory from attending camp? 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: Was an autograph, meeting a player on field action, something 86 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: had happened. Give us call us or tweet us. You 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: can call us at one eight eight five fifty two 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: five fifty or eight oh three oh five fifty locally, 89 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: or tweet at us at one bills Live. And that's 90 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: the thing that you get. These young guys come in 91 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: as draft picks and stuff, and I remember the thing 92 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: and the same thing I come in and they give you. 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: It was it with the Houston Oilers, which is now 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, but it was the Houston Oilers. We 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: were out in San Angelo, Texas. You come in and 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in mini camp, it was in Houston. It was like 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: two days after we got drafted and we fly in 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the week. It seems quick. It was. 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: It was very quick. So you come in and they 100 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: give you the swag. So I got shoes, shorts, you know, 101 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: shirts and stuff you know to wear for practice. They 102 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: and back then they had this thing where all the 103 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: guys wore these little teeny tiny, flimsy knee braces for practice. 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Everybody had to have those on just in case, you know, nobody. 105 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: We weren't in pads. We were in helmets. And I 106 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: put on, you know, an NFL helmet for the first time, 107 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: and and I walked out there and we started running around, 108 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: and I was one of those guys that I never 109 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: passed the eye test. You know, when people see me 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: standing there, they're like, you know, whose little brother are you? 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, or you know, are you the summer intern 112 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: for PR or who are you? Right? So I looked 113 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: ten years old. So I come out there and we 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: start But that aside from the eye test, aside when 115 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: we got out there and when they start testing us physically, 116 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: like when you do bench press, when you do vertical jump, 117 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: when you do all that stuff, I tested really well 118 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: nice And when we got out and started running around 119 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: with no pads on. I remember Hugh Campbell, who was 120 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Oilers. He took me out 121 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: and he kept me out late after when practices. Why 122 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: why weren't you playing, you know, in college, why weren't 123 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: you Why were you not playing wide receiver? Because I 124 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: was running routes and doing stuff and catching the ball, 125 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I did stuff really well. I was 126 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: pretty good athlete, and I surprised him because I was, 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I was a ninth round 128 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: draft pick and you know, well what was that like 129 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: for you when you first got to training camp? And 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: that's like I said that the mini camp was The 131 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: mini camp was great because then I was like a 132 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: great and all the veterans were like, you know, I 133 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: don't have time for this. I got stuff I want 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: to do other than come out of here and run 135 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: around in short So it was great. I was like 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: flashing and I was catching. I was getting deep on 137 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: the first round draft pick was Richard Johnson, cornerback out 138 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. I got deep on him a couple of times. 139 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: I had a good release, and I was doing all 140 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: this stuff, A yeah, this is great. Well yeah, the 141 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: veterans weren't doing anything. They were like standing around. They 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: didn't even want to be there. So then when training 143 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: camp kicks in and you get out there with shoulder 144 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: pads on and he started running around, it was like 145 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: oh there, Oh now they're playing. Yeah they can hit 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: you back. Yeah now it's not just me in shorts 147 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: right right? Um yeah, change things and you go from 148 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: having a really good day to just haven't trying to 149 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: have one good rep, right, you know, just trying to 150 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: catch one pass, and it did raise it a little bit. 151 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Any right, start this roller coaster. It's so interesting, especially 152 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I see it in receivers a lot because it's the 153 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: most visible. But if a guy has one, a younger guy, usually, 154 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: if they have one bad day with their hands, that 155 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: sticks in their craft for a while, and that'll that'll 156 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: stick with them through the remainder of training camp if 157 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: they're not careful, because you know that to them, it's like, oh, man, 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: I just screwed up this one day. I gotta get 159 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: it back tomorrow. And then you press and then and 160 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: then you're in a spot where you're like, oh, the 161 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: opportunities are limited exactly. You feel like you never get 162 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: a chance. And we're going to talk about the wide 163 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: receivers later in this show. They're thirteen of them. There's 164 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: thirteen guys on the roster at wide receiver. You're gonna 165 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: play maximum three yep, right, maybe four, maybe four? Three reps. Yeah, 166 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: for like three reps you get four wides, you know, 167 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: when they're trying to sit that and and that's for 168 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: thirteen guys. Three reps so you get like, you know, 169 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: there's twelve guys that get one guy doesn't get a rep. 170 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Or if then ones take two of those reps, the 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: twos take it. You know, they start mix them up 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: and then the ones get shuffled around. There's thirteen guys. 173 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: There's no time. So you get one bad day where 174 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: you drop two or three balls. You're waiting like three 175 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: days before you can make a nice catch to make 176 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: every free forget you had a bad day. You're waiting 177 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: all that and during those three days of the waiting 178 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: period and you're just sweating buckets. How many receivers were 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: there when you first got to Houston, not even Buffalo. 180 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: It was only like there was like oh no way, 181 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: wait wait wait see this was nineteen eighty five. Was 182 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: before the limit of eighty five guys on the roster. 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: It was seventy five nowadays or whatever. It was like 184 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: the limit was limitless. So teams were having like one 185 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen guys on the field, and I remember 186 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: they kind of gotten away with it. It It went that 187 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: direction for a couple of years just before I got there. 188 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: Then they started these teams are like going, you know, 189 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: they're giving guys jersey numbers, and literally the jersey numbers 190 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: are one fourteen, one fifteen. Yeah, I remember the stories 191 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: were the guy got a jersey with one fourteen on it. 192 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: He goes, you think I actually have a chance, he 193 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: asked the equipment guy, idea, I have a chance that 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: they hear is like one my numbers one fifteen. I 195 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: never even heard of that, right, same, So I get 196 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: there and the I think they had like ninety five 197 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: or one hundred guys in camp and my number was 198 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: number fourteen. Well you got double. But I was a 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver and it was illegal to have a wide 200 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: receiver with the teens back. I was like a quarterback number. 201 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: And then the guy drafted behind me, Willie Drew, he 202 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: was like number fifteen, and the guy in front of 203 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: us was Mike A Coup. Mike a Coup who's a 204 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Hawaiian kid, and he had like number thirteen. So it 205 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: was the seventh rounder, the ninth rounder, and the eleventh rounder. 206 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: We all had these consecutive numbers. Wow, And me and 207 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: Willie were actually locker. We had this locker and you've 208 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie Invincible with Vince Papali and 209 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: the locker room with the metal sides on the thing 210 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: and in the wooden benches. That's where we were. I mean, 211 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: that was exactly the kind of locker room we were in, 212 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: and I was sharing my locker. I am a single 213 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: locker and it was crazy. But the thing that I 214 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: remember most about it. I tell people this all the time, 215 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: is we were just talking about the catches and the 216 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: nine catches is the emotional roller coaster of training. Oh, 217 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: it has to be insane. I mean, you can't get 218 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: inside a mind of a player that is going through 219 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: that because on the surface, they're just gonna be like, hey, 220 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: you know what, it was just a bad day. I'll 221 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: get over it, get back out there tomorrow. But that 222 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: stuff resonates, It stays right there in the back of 223 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: your mind, and if you're not careful when you're going 224 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: into an actual rap and it doesn't even have to 225 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: be a wide receiver. It can be a defensive player 226 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: that had a bad rep against offensive lineman, an offensive 227 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: lineman who ended up on his butt on one rep 228 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: on a one on one. I mean, these are all 229 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: different examples of things that happen one time that can 230 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: permeate inside these guys mind, which is why it's such 231 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: a training camp as a psychological experiment experiment really, I mean, 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: and it's a chemistry experiment too. They want to get 233 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: a good day guys that are fit to fit the mold. 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you're right. Picture yourself working your whole youth, 235 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: through college through high school having this literally it is 236 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a dream to get on an NFL team, to be 237 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: a professional athlete. And you've lived at, worked at You've 238 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: had all. You've overcome, you know, injuries, you've overcome problems, 239 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: you've overcome transferring from one college to another college named 240 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: the obstacle of your choice. You've overcome the lack of 241 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: a father figure in your life. You've overcome hardship, deaths 242 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: in the family, moving your family, moving from place to place. 243 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: You've got all these obstacles that have come over some 244 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: of the youth in our country. You know, all of 245 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: us go through hard times in our youth. And and 246 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: you get to this point where on your threshold of 247 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: accomplishing something that is significant, being a pro athlete at 248 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: the highest level in the sport, You've chosen and this 249 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: is it. This is the training camp. And you go 250 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: out there and the guy throws you a little pass 251 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: on and out and you and you stonehand it and 252 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: brick it and it falls and you like bat it 253 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: to the ground like you're a defensive back and you 254 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: and you're thinking, oh my gosh, I got all this 255 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: weight and I'm gonna lose my job over that right? 256 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: Over one rep? Yeah, that's right. And it's one rep. 257 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: And then if you have one rep and then it 258 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: goes into two reps? Who happens? Three? Four? To think 259 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: your life is? You think, well, gosh, I've put all 260 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: my I don't know what I'm gonna do if I 261 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: don't make this team, right, I don't know what I'm 262 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna do. And then and then that's the that's the 263 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the roller coaster. Then you'll go out run 264 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: a rep, make a read and an adjustment and make 265 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: a one hand to diving catch, and you think, I'm 266 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna play in this league for fourteen years and I'm 267 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: going to the Hall of Fame. That is the ultimate high. 268 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I've done it. I've made it. It's gonna be awesome. 269 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: I haven't made a dollar yet, but I know I'm 270 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys that's on cereal boxes. 271 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my own my own commercials, Nike's gonna 272 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: be at my door. You have all of that, those things, 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: all that stuff passes through your mind in the exact 274 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: same moment after you just had a rep where you 275 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: batted the ball down. Then you do it and show 276 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: what you're best at and you make a one handed catch. 277 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: You go from being out of the league, working in 278 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: the insurance industry or digging ditches, or working at Walmart 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: or what have you, doing something else with your life 280 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: to being the cover of or the face of the 281 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: entire league. And it goes that way in sixty seconds. 282 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: You go ride that roll, see that that's that's just crazy. 283 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: And it has to be so tough to keep all 284 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: that in check for not even just the players themselves, 285 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: but I'm sure some of the veteran teammates see it 286 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: in there in these people that are struggling with it, 287 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: the younger guys, And because really the younger guys are 288 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: more more often than not the most interesting part of 289 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: training camp because you don't know what they're about at 290 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: that point of their career, and they don't know what 291 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: it's about, right. But I also think it's probably tough 292 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: for the coaches to to sit there and watch maybe 293 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 1: this guy that they had high hopes for just completely 294 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: stone handed or completely just play out of character from 295 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: what they've seen on tape. The most excruciating thing to 296 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: watch is a kid with all kinds of ability, and 297 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: you can see in the way he moves, ax, speaks, practices, 298 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: he's just so nervous and he's so keyed up. He's 299 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: so tense about the pressure that he's putting on himself 300 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: to make this team and play well, and he just 301 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: can't get out of his own way. That's the most 302 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: excruciating thing for a think, for fan, coaches, everybody to watch, 303 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and it's interesting to see how different coaches handled, because 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: you gotta the kid can really benefit from a coach 305 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: he knows how to push his buttons, just say hey, whoa, whoa. 306 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Don't do that, you know, just say hey, relax, you're 307 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: good enough. Sometimes all that kid needs is somebody say, hey, listen, 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna be here. Just relax, You're gonna make this team. 309 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: Just relax and play. If he hears that and believes it, 310 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: he can say he can take a deep breath and 311 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: go right. But somebody coaches, like a position coach. They 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: can't tell that to the kid, right because they don't 313 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: know for sure. And they could say I think the 314 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: kids should make it, he's gonna make it, and the 315 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: head coach says, I don't like the kid, and he's out. 316 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: And the way the NFL is structured anyway, these the 317 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: jobs that are secure are really only the top percentage 318 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: of the team. I mean, anybody is liable to get 319 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: cut unless your contract indicates that you are way untouchable 320 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: from a financial perspective. But that's a veteran guy to yeah, exactly. 321 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: When you're a younger guy, nothing is guaranteed unless you're 322 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: a highdraft pack. And here's the thing too. You get 323 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds and they 324 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: know pretty much intellectually they're not going to go anywhere, right, 325 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: but their pressure is on them not not to just 326 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: be on the team. They gotta contribute. Yes, they gotta 327 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: be a guy. And that means the focus focus, the 328 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: focus changes and puts it on the veteran guys. They 329 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: have to impress and outplay. They have to outplay guys. 330 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: They have to perform on the field in reps. They 331 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: have their reps have to be good. They can't look 332 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: like a bad player, and that's when the pressure comes 333 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: on them in a differ. I'm trying to recall, like 334 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: some some of these recent examples of players of what 335 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: you were talking about, how you know they have all 336 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: this talent and and uh and you know, it just 337 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: seems like they're playing tense and sometimes they show the talent, 338 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: but sometimes you're like, what was that? And the one 339 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: that comes to mind that I think he was released 340 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: after last year, after you know, up two three years 341 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: with the organization Dez Lewis, who is a you know, 342 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: seventh round wide receiver, big, tall guy, pretty fast, look 343 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: looked like he was pretty solid in his route running, 344 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: and he set spring workouts on fire for two straight years, 345 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: and then once he got to camp, the yips started 346 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: to come, started to to you know, incomplete passes and 347 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: started to run the wrong routes and it was just 348 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: in his head and then he dropped down the depth 349 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: chart and eventually he was cut last year. And that's 350 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: just the type of example where it is kind of 351 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: like mental warfare for with yourself at training camp and 352 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: that you know, it's it's interesting from a fan and 353 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: media perspective to watch it all unfold in front of 354 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: your eyes. But it's it's it's make or break for 355 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: all of these younger guys out there who are undrafted 356 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: or they get brought in on futures contracts or anything 357 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: like that. This these three weeks coming up in August 358 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: are everything to that. You're with Joe Bascalia Steve Tasker 359 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. We're gonna talk to Ross Tucker 360 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: of the NFL and his podcast that coming up at 361 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: twelve thirty. We're gonna talk about the wide receivers, what 362 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like we have been for the last 363 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: few minutes. Also, we're gonna talk about Chris Ivory and 364 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: what he brings to the Buffalo Bills. He's a little 365 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: bit of a compliment in his running style to Lashawn McCoy. 366 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: See what he's gonna see. See what you guys think 367 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: out there are listeners. We're also going to talk to 368 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: Elliott Harrison, who has put out he's from NFL dot com. 369 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: He put out a ranking of all the NFL head coaches. 370 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott obviously made the list, goes one through thirty two. 371 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: I would hope Sean McDermot makes the list. He made 372 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: the list. I mean, if see is how he's only 373 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: thirty two of them, he is one of them. Uh, 374 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: And we've got some other stuff. We'll discuss what you 375 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: want as well. Call us up and tweet us find 376 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: tell us what you're training camp memory has been over 377 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: the years, whether you've attended training camp, meta player, gotten 378 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: an autograph, that kind of thing. Tweet us or call 379 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: us if you want. You can call us at five 380 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: two five fifty or eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. 381 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: I've got a training camp memory for you. And this 382 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: this goes back to the land of the two A 383 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: days and when when I started covering the team. Yes 384 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: there were actually two days. It was it was right 385 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: before the lockout happened, and so I remember it was 386 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: either Aaron Mayban's first or second year. Um, I know 387 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: every I just heard every Bills fan collectively grown when 388 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I just said Aaron Maybon. But I remember a rep 389 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: when this was a practice that was closed to fans. 390 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: Just the media was allowed there, and it was just 391 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: they were going to thud, which means you go up, 392 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: you go, you run about seventy five percent speed and 393 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: then you go to the ball carrier, go to the receiver, 394 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: and then you just smash pads a little bit. Nobuddy 395 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: goes to the ground, right, nobody goes to the offensive lineman. 396 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: Don't go to not even a little okay, And so 397 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Fred Jackson was just running, you know, right right through 398 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle and guard on the right side. So 399 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: Fred Jackson at this point is beloved, yes, okay, go 400 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: ahead quite a bit by his teammates, by fans, everything 401 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: along those lines. He's someone near and dear to us. 402 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: He's just casually running up the field. The rep's about 403 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: to be over, and Aaron Mabon comes out of nowhere 404 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: like a bat out of hell and just sideswipes them 405 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: to the point where Fred was almost like horizontal. And 406 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: there was just a huge scrum that happened because of it. 407 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: And I remember more distinctly than anything that Eric would 408 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: who was, by the way, Aaron Maban's draft class teammates. 409 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were both first rounders, and he was 410 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: incensed by the whole thing, and he screams something along 411 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: the lines of him Aaron Mabon not being worth the 412 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: money he was being and given. And it's just that's 413 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: one of the things that really stick in and you 414 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: sit there and go, wow, that that was something. But 415 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: why what was Aaron Maybeen thinking on that play listen, 416 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: I got I know exactly And I was in a 417 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: couple of training camp fights, lost all of them and 418 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: you didn't have a reach and I but here's the thing. 419 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: I came into the National Football League and it was 420 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of the it was the steroid era, right, so 421 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: they weren't illegal and guys were doing it was a 422 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: little bit of it was a wink and a grind 423 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And you talk about training camp fights 424 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: like that, I listen, you picture offensive linemen in that 425 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: day were six five the sixty five and a half 426 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: and they weighed about two hundred and eighty five two 427 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds. There weren't pretty many three hundred. 428 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: There were no three hundred pound guys in the league. 429 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: And the off picture as a guy six five, six 430 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: five and a half two hundred and eighty five, two 431 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety pounds and they got thirty six inch waists. 432 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: It was a different world, right. They were like WWE guys. 433 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: They were they were stacked. I mean they were they 434 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: were big and steroids also, and you know, part of 435 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: the reason they're unsaved is they're a little bit you know, 436 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: they make guys with short tempers, guys had short fuses. 437 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: And you get out there on two days and you 438 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: got these guys going that are you know, six five 439 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: and a half two hundred and eighty five pounds, two 440 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: nine pounds, and they are mean, I mean, they're they 441 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: have short fuses. It's hot, they've been doing it for 442 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: a while, and they have no patience. And you got 443 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: guys on the other sideline the same thing. They're built 444 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: the same, and they're on the same they're doing the 445 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: same kind of uh lifestyle to help them play in 446 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: the league. And a fight breaks out and those guys, 447 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: well what I'm five nine in a buck eighty and 448 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, wow, maybe I should step in and 449 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: try and break this up. Yeah, picture yourself diving head 450 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: first into a tree grinder. Yeah, that's the way to 451 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: what you had. Not only did those it took those 452 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: guys would fight. It took guys life, those guys to 453 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: break it up, right, So you've got I mean, it 454 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: was and the fuses were short, the tempers were off 455 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: the charts. I mean, they weren't just like getting a 456 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: little bit perturbed that it was a deathmatch. And I 457 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: mean it happened in a half a second. It was 458 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: a death match with ten guys, two or three of 459 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: which were literally trying to kill each other and the 460 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: other eight or seven were trying to pull them apart 461 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: and save their lives. Wow, And I mean it was 462 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: and it was. I mean I think back on it 463 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: now it's kind of I can laugh about it now, 464 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: but back then it was like, man, oh man, they'd 465 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: pull them apart, and here's the big thing, and you 466 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: talk about a roller coaster, they'd break it apart. After that, 467 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: not forget practice being over. After that period was over, 468 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: the same two guys that were at one point trying 469 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: to literally rip their helmets off with their heads still 470 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: inside of them would come over and say, hey, bro 471 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: as my bad. He said, yeah, yeah, I got you. 472 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: The heat of the I mean it was the heat 473 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: of the moment they would get that roller coaster was 474 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: unbelievable to it. Well, what I what I found interesting 475 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,239 Speaker 1: because I've recently I've gone back and watched some like 476 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: old footage that we have up in the archives at 477 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: at Channel seven, and um when when we when I 478 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: went back and found some training camp stuff, and I 479 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: saw some fights. Yeah, it's not as though people were 480 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 1: jumping in to stop the fight immediately, Like they let 481 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: guys go and take multiple swings, get tired breaking them up. 482 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I ironed it out, however, you need to boys. Nowadays, 483 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: it's like anyone gets out of line in a second 484 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: and then it's just a huge huddle that surrounds them. 485 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: But you know, back then, just watching, it's like they 486 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: took some legitimate swings. Yeah, yeah, they Yeah, it was 487 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: a it was it now. I'm telling you when I 488 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: say deathmatch, for a few moments, they're trying to do it. 489 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: They're trying to they're trying to stop each other's heart 490 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: and it and it it takes. And that's the thing 491 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: about it. Those guys were so wired and so beefed 492 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: up and so out of their minds, you know, because 493 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: of the atmosphere of the league at that time. It 494 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: really took a number of other guys to come in 495 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: and break it up. Oh it's crazy, crazy stuff. And 496 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: plus and I'll tell you this my first I'll give 497 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 1: you We'll get into this later too, but I can 498 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: talk to you about it now. We you know, it 499 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: was hard to live in that atmosphere when you're going 500 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: two or two two hour practices a day, full go 501 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: nine on seven, tackle to the ground, hard football for 502 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: two weeks without a break. And we did it in 503 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: sant Like I said of sant Angelo, Texas. And I'm 504 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: telling you what, for fourteen days, ten of ten or 505 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: twelve of those fourteen days were over one hundred degrees. 506 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: Ten of those twelve days were over one hundred and ten. 507 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: That's how hot it was in sant Angelo, Texas. Tackle tackle, 508 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: hard hitting football. And you wonder why guys, you know, 509 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: get into fights like that, And that was the reason. Man, 510 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: it was hard. It was all all the mental pressure 511 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: that you're under. Yeah, I'm interested to hear what like 512 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: some fans and everything like that have some training camp 513 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: memories and along those, you know, and I and I 514 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: talked about it. We got we got a ton of 515 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: people on the on the phone. They want to we're 516 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: on a chime and we'll start. We'll start out over 517 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: in Rochester, Alan, Rochester, Al. Welcome to One Bill's Lie. 518 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: You're with Joe and Steve. What's on your mind? Well, 519 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: hi guys, and thank you for taking my call. This 520 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: isn't exactly a training training camp memory, but given how 521 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: old I am, um, do you have to think about 522 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: what people view how they view with these stars. I 523 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: hadn't have trained me Jack Kemp and Lance all Worth 524 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: in a business situation. I was a very, very young man, 525 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: just starting out in the workforce. And how engaging and 526 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: how nice Jack Kemp was at that time he was 527 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 1: president of the American Football of Players Association, and we 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: were trying to sell them photocopy machines. But he came 529 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: out and was so generous with his time talking to us, 530 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: and I was just amazed. I don't think I said 531 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: a word, just spellbound. And he asked the gentleman that 532 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: I was with, you wanted to meet Lance Allworth? Well, 533 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: it looks like meeting God. And what I couldn't believe 534 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: is how big both of these guys worked. I thought 535 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: Lance was called Bambi because he was a little fellow. 536 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: He was huge. It looked like a bouncer and in 537 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: some of the places I used to hang out. But 538 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: my point of the story is just you guys don't 539 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: realize how young people will get so enthralled with the 540 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: people that played professional sports like yourselves. And at that 541 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: time Jack Kemp and Lance Alworth. So it's just a thrill. 542 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: It's not a training game of memory. It was just 543 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: as a young man, the thrill of meeting somebody like that. 544 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: And I'll shut up and well, I appreciate it. Now, 545 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: you're right, And I think that's one of the best things. 546 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: And generally speaking, we got a whole bunch of people 547 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: that are that are that are on the line probably 548 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: have this. I think one of the funnest things for 549 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: most people is the fact that they do get to 550 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: meet players. Oh yeah, and they get a chance to 551 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: see him as human being, uh and and all of that. 552 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: And and players like it too, I mean, because there's 553 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: a chance to chill out a little bit. Well for 554 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: kids expected too, well, for kids, I don't even think 555 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: they think of them as humans. I think they're like, oh, 556 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, this is like because athletes are just the 557 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: top of the line, and you know a lot of 558 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: you know a lot of kids minds, and so when 559 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: when they actually get a chance to meet them and 560 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: they see these larger than life humans, then then they 561 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: said there and go, wow, that was great. Yeah, it's amazing. 562 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: It's amazing. We got another call. Let's go, Let's go 563 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: to Elma, Mike, Mike and Elma. Welcome to One Bills Live. 564 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, Steven, Joe. Great to talk 565 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: to you guys. Well, Peeve, I actually I have a 566 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: great story actually involves you. Your first year. You came 567 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: from Houston, m my buddies and I from football. We 568 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: went to watch the practice. It was in between the 569 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: two days, and uh, you're actually first season with the Bills. 570 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: You actually walked over and uh, sat with my buddies 571 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: and I and your wife at the time, UM had 572 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: lunch with us your first year there at the pick 573 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: of the table. I'll never forget that. I got a 574 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: lot of great camp stories, but that one stands out 575 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: just because of the amount of time you spent with us, 576 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: and it was genuine. You're just trying to get a 577 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: feel for the area and all that in high school sports, etc. 578 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: And it just really stuck out, and you were an 579 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: awesome football player. So to watch you. We lost him. 580 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: We lost him. It wasn't me. I didn't you can 581 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: see I didn't touch the I didn't touch them. Yeah, 582 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that was nice. I appreciate that. That's it's 583 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: it was fun. And I think one of the things 584 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: that goes with training camp. Players know you're gonna interact 585 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: with fans a little bit, and they it's on their 586 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: agenda and they're ready to do it. Yeah, you don't 587 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: catch them really in bad moments, No you don't. Hopefully. 588 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't mean it could have been me, right. I mean, 589 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: there's there's some bad moments on the field where you're 590 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment, in the heat of 591 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: the battle and everything along those lines, and I might 592 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: get away with you and you might might curse a 593 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: couple of times, but once the practice is done, you 594 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: kind of get back to who you are, and you know, 595 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a training camp tradition where especially 596 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: at Saint John Fisher College, where it's just these fans 597 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: just lie in the whole stands and everything like that, 598 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: and these guys through their countless minutes and maybe you've 599 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: get into an hour of you know, finning autographs. I 600 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: hate to say it, but I think training camps actually 601 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: evolving away from the team's going away. I think only 602 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: nine seven or nine teams left in the National Football 603 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: they believe their facilities because the game has grown so 604 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: much that they have facilities all the time that are 605 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: training camp worthy and you can go down to Saint 606 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: John Fisher though, and it has really been a home 607 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: run for the organization. You talk to anybody up in 608 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: the upper echelons of the organization, going to Saint John 609 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: Fisher has been a huge boost for the club. But 610 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: I think, just like the rest of the league, it's 611 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: I think at some point down the line, they'll probably 612 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: just stay in Orchard Park because they have the facilities 613 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to run it here, because the field house and all 614 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: of that in the grass field. I mean, you think, 615 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: you think about it, and you know they have a 616 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: facility that's made for that, right Plus all they need 617 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: is stands yeah here and they have all that extra 618 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: room out out there now with the three field so 619 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: they can take it down to the stadium and they 620 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: run some practices down in the stadium as well, because 621 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: they're having a stadium practice this year, right. So, so 622 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: I imagine at some point it won't go to Rochester again, 623 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know who knows. It's been a great 624 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: a great place, a great venue for the Bills so far. 625 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: For the time being, they're gonna stay there. It's not 626 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: I always like training camp away and it's cool because 627 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: it gives a different sort of feel to it just 628 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: from a media perspective of where, Okay, this is, this 629 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: is an event, and and maybe it will it does 630 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: for teams that have it in there in their own 631 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: capacity and in their own facilities. But there's I mean, 632 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: that's where I started covering training camp out at Saint 633 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: John Fishing College. So that's that's why I kind of 634 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: like it. All right. Coming after the bottom of the hour, 635 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Ross Tucker, Russ Ross Tucker and 636 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: his podcast about some of the young quarterbacks, some of 637 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: the stuff going around, some of the holdouts. Stay with us. 638 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive 639 00:30:46,480 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. 640 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and Joe Biscallia were pleased to be joined 641 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: by former Buffalo Bill guard and played six seasons in 642 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's with Sirius XM NFL Radio Ross and 643 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: he hosts the Ross Tucker Football podcast. Ross. Thanks for 644 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: coming on the program. Steve Tasker along with Joe Biscalia. 645 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: How are you doing today? I'm doing great. Let's how 646 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: you guys doing doing great? Now? Ross and I were 647 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: teammates for a cup of coffee and I still he's 648 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: still hanging around. I still bent bump into you around 649 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: the NFL because particularly on the NFL XM radio stuff. 650 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying that? I am, absolutely, man. I mean 651 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: I just kind of laughed because I do it from 652 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: my house in central Pennsylvania. I live like in Harrisburg 653 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: and Hershey, And this morning I recorded my podcast and 654 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: I was on Sirius XM for four hours, you know, 655 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: done by eleven am, and kind of had the rest 656 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: of the day to do whatever I want. I mean, 657 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: it still feels sometimes like a scam. I'm in my 658 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: house wearing mesh shorts and foot flap you know, talking 659 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: about football. It's it's pretty awesome. So I'll be forty, um, 660 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, next next year, and my goal is to 661 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: try to avoid a real job as long as I can. 662 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: But by the way, you guys will both appreciate this. 663 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going up to Toronto in August because my 664 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: wife has a business school friend up there. And so 665 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: my wife and I were talking and we said, you 666 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: know what, rather than flying up to Toronto, let's Drive, 667 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: we'll do the Niagara Falls thing, and we'll stop by 668 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, One Bill Drive, and we'll stop by the 669 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: Round because my daughters are six and five, so they 670 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: weren't born yet when I was playing, So I am 671 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: so fired up because it was my favorite stop out 672 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: of the five teams I played for. So mid August 673 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: I already reached out to the Bills and they're cool 674 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: with it. Gonna show my girls, you know, One Bill's 675 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: Drive a little bit and the Adium and have an awesome, 676 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: awesome chance to just show them where daddy used to work. 677 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. I'm glad. I'm glad to get a 678 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: chance to do that because the Bills have done a 679 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: nice job of reaching out and and embracing the the alumni. 680 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: So I'm glad to hear it. Talk to us a 681 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: little bit about what the topics of the day are. 682 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I know you're on the You're on for four hours, 683 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: and we've got a bunch of stuff going on around 684 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: the National Football League, all the way from Jamis Winston 685 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: and Johnny Manzell trying to get back in. We're gonna 686 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on Josh Allen, the rookie quarterback class 687 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: as well. So you're goin to pick your topic and 688 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: and uh, what was what's on your mind today? And 689 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: what do you think is the hottest thing going in 690 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: football this morning? Well it's funny because we talked a lot. 691 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: I saw where tom Ba Lee retired yesterday and he 692 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: was comparing the new Chiefs quarterback Pat Mahomes to Brett Farve, 693 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: which kind of got me thinking, you know, if you 694 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: could sign up for Brett Farve for your team right 695 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: now for the next twenty years, would you do it? 696 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: And by saying, I know your initial reaction is, of 697 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: course yes. But what I'm saying is, you know you're 698 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna win one Super Bowl, You're gonna go 699 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: to two, You're gonna win one, but only one, you know, 700 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: so you're signing up for twice. So like, if you're 701 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, you probably wouldn't take that because I 702 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: think Eagles fans have higher hopes than that. You know, 703 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: maybe Ram fans. I don't know, but yeah, yeah. It 704 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: became a really interesting discussion because this is why the 705 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: NFL is so popular. We had Titans fans to say, Nope, 706 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: I like our GM John Robinson, I like Mariota. I 707 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: don't want to settle for just one. And they said 708 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: that Chiefs fans said that about Pat Mahomes. I just thought, gosh, 709 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 1: you know the titan of never want a Super Bowl? 710 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'd imagine. I'd imagine most Bills fans 711 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: would sign up for that, not only to actually win one, 712 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, he played in twenty four 713 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: playoff games, right, So what about Yeah, what about the 714 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: Brown you're about Cleveland Brown fan? You think they'd sign 715 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: up for that, of course, of course? And what I 716 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: think it's interesting about Buffalo right now. And I know 717 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: they won't come out and say this, but their two 718 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: draft picks in the first round were very much high upside. 719 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: But we'll take some time to develop players, right So, 720 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Tremaine Edmunds, I really think you look at 721 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: the entire afcast, and the Bills are including that. Of course, 722 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 1: I really think. I don't want to say they're waving 723 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: the white towel, but I think that they've come to 724 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: the realization they're just not gonna beat the Patriots when 725 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: they have Brady. They're just not gonna do it. But Brady, 726 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: how much Longer's gonna play, you know. I mean, I've 727 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: seen people predicting this will be the last year or 728 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: only two more years. His white doesn't want him to 729 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: play anymore. So, in all sincerity, it makes perfect sense 730 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: to me if you are one of those teams to 731 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: try to position your franchise so that in twenty twenty 732 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: and beyond you can take over. You know, it's no 733 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: longer the Page's division, it's your division. And now will 734 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: be year three for Josh Allen and Tremade Edmonds and 735 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: maybe they become, you know, a top five quarterback, and 736 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: maybe Tremada Edmonds is like a Brian Urlocker type of player. 737 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: And I just thought it was really interesting that the Bills, 738 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear are they're not rebuilding, they're reloading. 739 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: But I'd be surprised they didn't take a little step 740 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: back this year. Yeah. And what what's most interesting about 741 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: what you're saying is when when it is the time 742 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: for Tom Brady to go, there is going to be 743 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: a major void even throughout the AFC, because it seems 744 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: like just the essence of the great quarterbacks, they're all 745 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: getting up there in age, and so it seems like 746 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: there's a void from a from a younger guy perspective, 747 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: and you know there is hope right now in Watson 748 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: and even Mahomes that matter, the rest of the young 749 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: guys are unproven. I mean, what type of opportunity is 750 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: there out there for really the Bills to kind of 751 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: position themselves in that way once Brady does hang it up. 752 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: Terrific point because I also how much longer are Ben 753 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Philip Rivers cannaplay? Exactly right? And Andrew Luck's 754 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: a total unknown right now. So unlike the NFC, where 755 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: it looks like the Falcons, Eagles, Rams, and Vikings are 756 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: going to be good for the foreseeable future. Maybe you 757 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: can even throw the Packers in there at Saints, I 758 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: don't know how longer, how much longer Drew Brees will play. 759 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: The AFC, it really looks like there's a heck of 760 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: an opportunity there. No one will ever do what Steve's 761 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: Bills did again. Nobody will ever go through and and 762 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: go to four Super Bowls again, but there could be 763 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: an opportunity. And by the way, Steve, with every passing year, 764 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: everybody I talked to is more and more impressed by 765 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: you guys. Doing that. It's like, I mean, it's more 766 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: impressive than winning one. People don't look at that way, 767 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: but it is. I mean, you go to four straight 768 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: two bulls is more impressive than finding a way to 769 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: win one of those games. But that's another story. But 770 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: my point is is, Yeah, I think there's a real 771 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 1: opportunity and I think someone maybe it's Sam Darnold and 772 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: the Jets. Maybe it's Josh Allen and the Bills. Maybe 773 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: it's Baker Mayfield and the Browns. We'll see, it could 774 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: very easily be DeShawn Watson and Pat Mahomes based on 775 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: what those guys have done so far. But there's gonna 776 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: be a void, and there's going to be the next group, 777 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: and some of these teams are gonna be you know, 778 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be surprised. We're so used to 779 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: the Steelers the Patriots every year. I think that there's 780 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 1: real potential exists that we go on a ten year 781 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: run where it's not them, especially if Belichick hangs them up. 782 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: I still don't picture Ben playing that long. So there's 783 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna be some new names, some new teams in the AFC. 784 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: It's kind of exciting. We're talking to Ross Tucker of 785 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: Serious x MNFL Radios. One of the things we have 786 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: today with training camp just around the corner. We've been 787 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: talking about what it's like for young players in an 788 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: NFL training camp and how the mini camps are kind 789 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: of this shorts and T shirt kind of experience, and 790 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: then when the veterans do show up to training camp 791 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: and they're trying to get a job, the intensity level rises. 792 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: I was talking about training camp fights and Joe Biscallio 793 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: was talking about that as well, and how intense it is. 794 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: And it's a little different now with the lack of 795 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: two A days, but I remember when I was in 796 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: the mid eighties going two A days for you know, 797 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks at a time. What do you 798 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: have any training camp memories that you can look back 799 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: on and say, wow, that was something I'll never forget. Well, 800 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean two thousand and one, my rookie year with 801 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Marty Schottenheimer came in and he had 802 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: been you know, out of the league for a couple 803 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: of years, and they had basically assembled like the nineteen 804 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: ninety All Star team, you know, Jeff George and Dion 805 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: Tanners and Bruce Smith and all those guys his camp. 806 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: Looking back on it now, I think the first two 807 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: weeks it was full pads, three hour practices to a day, 808 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: and I remember distinctly I tore my right MCL in 809 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: a goal line and I had gotten off to a 810 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: fast start in mini camps, at a fast start in 811 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: training camp, and I was feeling good about things. And 812 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: I tore my mcl second degree the fourth day of camp, 813 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,959 Speaker 1: fifth day, so I was out for a little bit. 814 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: I missed the first preseason game, but I remember thinking, 815 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys do this for ten years, 816 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: Like there's no way I could barely make it through 817 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: my first training camp. I come back, okay, and I 818 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: missed the first preseason game. Second preseason game. We're playing 819 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, and this is right after they had 820 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: been in the Super Bowl, and their d line was 821 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: like Patrick Kearney and Travis Hall and Brady Smith and 822 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: those guys Steve They put me at left tackle. Okay, 823 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: the sixth play of the game, and I played right 824 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: guard at Princeton. This is my rookie year. The six 825 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: play the game, okay, Chris Samuels hurts his neck and 826 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm standing there because I knew I was supposed to 827 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: play the second half at left tackle. But I didn't think, 828 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think they would put me in 829 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: and shot in him or loosen to me's like, get 830 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: in there, get in there. I thought they'd put one 831 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: of the best. I thought they'd slide one of the 832 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: veteran guys over. I my first NFL action ever, my 833 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: first time ever. It was more than like twenty five 834 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 1: thousand people or whatever. I go in the huddle and 835 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking around and it's Jeff George, Michael Westbrook, Stephen Davis, 836 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: Steven Alexander and I had been an Eagles fan, Like 837 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: it was all the guys I've been playing Madden with. 838 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: I was like, I had not gotten one rip with 839 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: those guys, not one rep. So we go out and 840 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: I and I'm battling my butt off the rest of 841 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: the game, and then like in the third or fourth quarter, 842 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: I hit this guy and he does this like kung 843 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: fu shop to my hand and my hands killing me. 844 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: And I stay to the left guard next to me 845 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: from Michigan. I said, I think I dislocated my finger. 846 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: What do you do? He's like, pop it back in, 847 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: so I try to pop it back in and all 848 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 1: I hear and feel is crunching. So then I do 849 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 1: two more plays with just my right hand. I'm holding 850 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: my left hand back. I come off the field, I 851 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: take off my glove and my fourth metacarpol or whatever 852 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: is sticking out of my skin. I broke my hand 853 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: and tried to pop it back in. I didn't. I 854 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: thought that's what it felt like when you dislocated the fingers. 855 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: So I try to pop back in A broken, a 856 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: fracture metacarpol that was through the skin, and so I 857 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: was out for the next prison you. So, so in 858 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: my first two weeks in the NFL, I tore my 859 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: MCLT and broke my hand. I remember thinking, oh my gosh, 860 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: I just want to try to make it this year 861 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: because I've come this far, pay off my student loans 862 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: at Princeton, and then heap out of here because this 863 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: is crazy. I can't even make to two weeks. And 864 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: then that's and at this point in your life, looking 865 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: back on what you're almost four year thinking, that's exactly 866 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: the mindset you should have had. I know, I know 867 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: it's so funny too, looking back on it, because I 868 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: remember like then my third year in Buffalo, I did 869 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: three training camps with Buffalo at Saint John Fisher and 870 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: after Dallas cut me, I was in Buffalo and their 871 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: big ticket signing or one of them had been Tequillo 872 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: Spikes and Jeff Posey to rush off the edge and 873 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 1: I'm playing right guard and Posey does like a spin 874 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: move on whoever the right tackle was. And when I 875 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,919 Speaker 1: tell you I annihilated Posey, I mean I hit him 876 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: so hard right in the chin. He went lying in 877 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: the air and he was like out for the rest 878 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: of practice. And the coaches afterwards were like, you got 879 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: to be more careful, that's your teammate. Whatever, So they 880 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: were acting like they were mad about it. After that, 881 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: I was getting more reps with the ones and I 882 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: was definitely on the team, so they acted like they 883 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: were mad, but they were like, oh wow, this guy's 884 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: not messing around. He wants to be on this team. 885 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 1: And then even the next year with Malarkey, he said 886 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna make training camp a lot harder, and that 887 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: was the big story. And I was competing for the 888 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: starting left guard job, so I wanted to be harder. 889 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, usually you wouldn't want training camp to be hard. 890 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: But my mindset was, well, if I'm competing against other guys, 891 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm mentally tougher than they are, So I hope it's 892 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: hard because only the strong survive. I will win out 893 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: in the end over them. The harder the training camp is, 894 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: that was my mindset. Hey, Russ, tell us a bit 895 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: about ball Cannon. So if you guys haven't checked it 896 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: out yet, go to ballcannon dot com and just watch 897 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: the videos. I tell everybody now, just check out that. 898 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: If you want to see some of the coolest videos 899 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: you've ever seen in your life, go to ballcanon dot com. 900 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, my five and six year old love it. Yet, 901 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: they just had a seventh NFL team that bought one. 902 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm not I think the Bills have one. I'm not sure. 903 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,720 Speaker 1: So that's the that's the range for this football throwing machine. 904 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a jug machine that's a 905 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: lot less expensive if you can have at your house, 906 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: in your backyard, in your driveway. And I was just 907 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: at an event last week that I've never been at 908 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 1: an event where the line of kids is not twenty 909 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: people deep. It's fun because if there's just nothing like it. 910 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: So it's just crazy me that NFL teams are used 911 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: them either for fan fest or rehab or whatever. And 912 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: yet I go outside my five and six year I 913 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: would like to try to catch it. They even like 914 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: more when they press the button and Daddy tries to 915 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: catch it. So make sure, if you haven't yet, go 916 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: to ballcanon dot com check out the video. I think 917 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: Luke Tasker would have been even better than he already 918 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: is if if Steven got one in one of these 919 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: when he was young. He had been much better if 920 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: he'd had a different genetic father. But anyway, Ross, thank 921 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: you so much for coming on. Ross Tucker, former Bills guard, 922 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: played sixth season the NFL Serious x NFL Radio Ross 923 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: Tucker Football Podcast. Ross, thanks for coming on. I appreciate 924 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: I have a great day, man. Thanks Ross any time. Guys. 925 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: Love talking Bills and love talking Buffalo. See you, Ross Tucker. 926 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: Who you know? It's funny? I I almost certainly, and 927 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: this is this is when I'm getting old. I mean, 928 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: I gotta get checked. But I thought we were teammates. 929 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: He didn't come in the league until two thousand and one. 930 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,840 Speaker 1: I was out of the league like a half a 931 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: dozen years, well not four years before we even got 932 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: in the league. I thought he and I were on 933 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: the same team together. We were not. I'll tell you 934 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: what one thing I believe that. I'll tell you one thing. 935 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 1: I won't forget that story about him trying to break 936 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: his broken hand back and back in. Yeah, that leaves 937 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: him mark, doesn't it. Yeah, especially in the mind here 938 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 1: because I'm here stuff like that, seeing a bone sticking 939 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: out of this. It's amazing too, because stuff like that happens, 940 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: and you say it in like he just did, and 941 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: there's no question it was hurting him. But that wasn't 942 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: what he remembered. What he remembered was trying to fit 943 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: it back and he couldn't fig What you remember is 944 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: you couldn't figure out what was wrong, and then you 945 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: take your and try to think about this. He didn't 946 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: even mention this. Think about taking your glove off, right 947 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: with your with your fourth metacarpal. I think that might 948 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: be a scissor situation. Right now, I get to sacrifice 949 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: that glove. He cut that glove off. Oh well, anyway, 950 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: you're on one Bills Live with Steve Tasker and Joe Biscalli. 951 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break and join us. Come back 952 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,239 Speaker 1: and join us. After this, we're gonna talk about the 953 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: Bills wide receivers. We're gonna show you something that DeAndre 954 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: Hopkins wide receiver the Houston Texans did put out a 955 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: little tweet and got a light nice response from it, 956 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: so you'll find that interesting. Steve Tasker, Job Biscali, One 957 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. 958 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show, Jobscaglia Piscalia. I keep you 959 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: got a silent G. Yeah, it's an Italian thing I'm 960 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,959 Speaker 1: sorry about. I hate that. Well, listen, every telemarketer growing 961 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: up hates it as well. Yeah, because that's a good 962 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: reason to hang up. Well. Yeah, and not that you 963 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: need one. I have heard so many pronunciations of my 964 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: last name. It's I mean, there's I'll granted, the silent 965 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: G might be a tad unnecessary, but it's a staple. 966 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: That's not the name. That's not the worst thing. I'll 967 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: tell you what happened to me at the right on 968 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 1: Saturday at the ride for Roswell, another guy. It happens 969 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: to me at least once a month, and it has 970 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: happened to me once a month for the last twenty 971 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: five thirty years. I get congratulated on running Leon Let 972 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: down in a Super Bowl game and knocking the ball 973 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: out of his hands before he scored a touchdown. Well, 974 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: which of course was Don. Yeah, of course it wasn't me. 975 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: Eighty two not eighty nine. You're both in the eighties though, 976 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: both small white guys. Right there, you go, that's all 977 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: they know. Yeah, And I also get also say also 978 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: happens to me not as often where they say, yeah, 979 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: you were that guy with a big helmet, kelso, kelso 980 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: for thirty years, though I've been I've been, I promised Don, 981 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 1: because you know, in the emotion of the moment and 982 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,399 Speaker 1: how you're sad and you're getting philosophical over life and done. 983 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: I goes somebody thought congratulated me on running them down. 984 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: I told him it wasn't mean it was you, because 985 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm I promise you man, I'll never take credit for that. 986 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, I should have just said forget you. 987 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: I should just say thank you every time they say that. Yes, 988 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: it was one of the crowning achievements of my career. 989 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: But I don't. But it happened again. But yeah, mispronouncing 990 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: my name. People have, you know, sometimes mostly they mispronounced 991 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: my name because I'll misspell it or something. I was 992 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: gonna say, you're pretty straightforward exactly. But we're talking. We're 993 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: sitting here on one Bills Live. We're taking calls today. 994 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: The Twitter question is what is your most memorable training 995 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: camp moment? Whether you visiting training camp or getting an 996 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: autograph or meeting a player at training camp, what was 997 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: your most memorable story? And we're getting a bunch of calls, 998 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: and in fact, we got some guys who were hanging 999 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: Let me get to these calls because some of these 1000 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: guys have been hanging on for a while. Buzz from 1001 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Buzz. You're on one Bills Live. Appreciate your waiting 1002 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: so long. What's what's on your mind? Oh? Well, I 1003 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: have a I have a pretty good safe. First of all, 1004 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. So it's fun to talk 1005 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: to you guys. But um, I got a pretty good 1006 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: story here about meeting someone. It wasn't training camp. I 1007 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,280 Speaker 1: guess I was the one that was in training camp actually, 1008 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: because in two thousands, I had been in the wine 1009 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: industry for like fifteen years, but I had never made line. 1010 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: So in two thousand and six, I got a wine 1011 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: making apprenticeship in the Russian River Valley in Sonoma County. 1012 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: So I moved out there and hurt, you're an apprentice, 1013 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: You're you're not making You're making peanuts right in six 1014 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: days a week, you got Sundays off, You're working fifteen 1015 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: hours a day. Put your broke somehow. So they asked 1016 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: me if I wanted to fill in the tasting room 1017 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: on a Sunday. I think it was in October, and 1018 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,239 Speaker 1: I was like, to ease, man. You know, the Bills 1019 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: are The Bills were at home that week against New England, 1020 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, men, I don't miss many 1021 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: Bills games. But I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. I 1022 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: need the money. And I asked the owners. I said, 1023 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 1: do you mind if if if I can find the 1024 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: stream of the of the Bills game, if I have 1025 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: it on real quiet in the background, just while the 1026 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: game's on. And they were cool, they were like, yeah, 1027 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. So I'm in the taste in here whom 1028 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: I got the Bills game on, and uh, these two 1029 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: guys walk in and um, the Bills did something I'm putting. 1030 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving him my presentation about the wine, you know, 1031 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: how they're made and all that and that, and the 1032 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,240 Speaker 1: Bills did something good that I could hear in the background, 1033 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: and I let I let out a little small chair 1034 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, and uh and they looked at 1035 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: me and I said, uh, uh, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm 1036 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: just I just moved here from Buffalo. I'm a big 1037 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: Bills fan. I'm listening in the game. But we'll get 1038 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 1: back into the tasting here. And the one guy says 1039 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: to me, well, you know that's interesting. He it was 1040 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 1: my brother's in Buffalo right now. And I said, oh, yeah, really, 1041 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,799 Speaker 1: what what's your brother doing in Buffalo? And he said 1042 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: he's there on business. So I was like, okay, cool. 1043 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: I said, uh, you know what what business is he 1044 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: and what was he do for a living? And he 1045 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,680 Speaker 1: says he's the coach of the New England Patriots. So 1046 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm like Bill Belichick's brother. Yeah, yeah, so so I 1047 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: so I think he's pulling my leg right, And I'm like, so, 1048 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: I say to him, well, why aren't you watching the game. 1049 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: He's like, I don't really watch many of the games. 1050 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, whatever, you know, I think the guys 1051 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 1: still pulling my leg and he says, okay, well I 1052 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: want a bottle of this and a bottle of that. 1053 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: And he puts down his credit card and sure enough 1054 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: it was Robert Belichick. Wow. Well there you go, you know, 1055 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: and I moved twenty six hundred miles away and I 1056 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: still can't get away from Yeah, I mean it was 1057 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: it was incredible. Oh god, all right, that's all right. Buzz. 1058 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: That's a great buzz from Buffalo. Thank you so much. 1059 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: That's a great call meeting Bill Belichick. He should have 1060 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: he should have talked smack to the guy though he's 1061 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, to his brother anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, to 1062 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: his brother anyway. That's interesting because the guy doesn't watch football. 1063 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: M Well, Bill is a very eclectic guy. Wonder if 1064 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 1: they're Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. 1065 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,720 Speaker 1: That's that's a good story, though. That is a good story. 1066 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: That is a good story. But you gotta move all 1067 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: the way to California to do you know. We're gonna 1068 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 1: take one more call because I feel bad. Steve. Steve 1069 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: from Niagara Falls. He's been hanging on for quite a while. 1070 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: You ever training memory that you want to share with us? Yeah, 1071 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: I do, man, it's thank you for taking my call. Sure. Uh, 1072 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: my dad used to bring me and bring me to 1073 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: a tree. Steve. Oh, Steve, you hung on for like 1074 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes and you hung up. Yeah, Steve, you 1075 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: can give us a call back if you want to 1076 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: give it. Give that another try. You just blanked out 1077 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: on His dad used to take into training camp somewhere. 1078 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: I don't know where it was. Well, hopefully he called back. Yeah, 1079 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: that's funny because you know, you think back about the 1080 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: history about the Bills they started practice. They were actually 1081 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: they were in Hamburg over over like off Mile Strip 1082 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: or someplace over there. Then they were in East Aurora 1083 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: in the sixties, uh, staying at the Roycroft working out 1084 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: the polo fields. And of course they were in Fredonia 1085 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: for for a long long time. So uh, it's moved around. 1086 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people. Of course, the people who 1087 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: even the people who used to watch training camp in 1088 00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: Fredonia are getting into baby boomer vintage age and just 1089 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: started having grand Yeah. It's been at Fisher since the 1090 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: turn of the century. Yeah, exactly. You're on Steve Task 1091 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 1: and Joe Biscal. Yeah, we're gonna talk also in coming 1092 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 1: up about some Bills wide receivers um and what the 1093 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: cluster it is up there? Thirteen guys that are trying 1094 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: to make it. We also, we didn't get to it 1095 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: this segment. We're gonna we're gonna take a quick break here. 1096 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: We didn't get to it this segment beyond. But DeAndre 1097 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,839 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Houston wide receiver. All he did was tweet out. 1098 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: He says, listen, I'm gonna be at this park in 1099 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: uh Houston if you want to get some work done. Yeah, 1100 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: Herman Park at the Miller Outdoor Theater tomorrow at nine am. 1101 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: He tweets that out. He's in Houston. I guess that's 1102 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: where it is. And a bunch of kids showed up 1103 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: to work out with DeAndre Hopkins. Interesting story. We'll get 1104 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: back to that after this. You're listening to One Bills 1105 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:59,320 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello 1106 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories Update. Andrew Luck told The Indianapolis 1107 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 1: Star that he has experienced no pain whatsoever in his 1108 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: throwing shoulder as he continues his lengthy rehab from injury. 1109 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,840 Speaker 1: Luck has been throwing for about a month and plans 1110 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: to continue throwing with his cult teammates this summer leading 1111 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: up to training camp. Generis Jenkins older brother has been 1112 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: charged with aggressive manslaughter following the death of a man 1113 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: at the Giants cornerback's residence in New Jersey. The victim 1114 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: is a family friend of Jenkames, but the NFL veteran 1115 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: was in Florida during the time of the murder. The 1116 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers continuing their prospect camp downtown at the Harbor Center. 1117 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: Our Friends the Instigators will be live at camp ten 1118 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: to noon tomorrow. First round pick Rasmus Daleen and former 1119 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: top picks Sam Rhinehart, Alex Kneelander and all all part 1120 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: of the four day development camp that wraps up Saturday 1121 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: with the annual French Connection Tournament World Cup action the 1122 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: Cup finals from earlier today, Columbia defeated Senegal one nil 1123 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 1: to advance to the round of sixteen, also pulling Down's 1124 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: Japan one nothing. Despite the loss, Japan qualifies for the 1125 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: round of sixteen by virtue of a better disciplinary record 1126 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: than rival Senegal and he's they had fewer yellow cards. 1127 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: Later this afternoon, it's England and Belgium, who both already 1128 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: qualified from Group G, and also Panama versus Tunisia. Finally, 1129 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 1: after two straight wins, the Bisons wrap up their homestand 1130 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: with a Pawtucket Red Sox this afternoon. The first pitch, 1131 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: the first pitch is just about to get underway from 1132 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 1: Coca Cola Field. That is your Sports Update, One Bill's 1133 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 1: Live Back at One Bill's Drive. Joe Biscalia, Steve Tasker, 1134 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 1: we're talking about training camp memories. We're getting a bunch 1135 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: of stuff, a bunch of phone calls, a bunch of tweets. 1136 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: We haven't even had a chance to read from the 1137 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: tweet sheet yet. But also we wanted to talk to 1138 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: you about a cool thing that DeAndre Hopkins get did 1139 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: down in Houston. He's getting ready for his training camp 1140 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: down there. And you know guys, sometimes they get out 1141 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 1: and they have workout partners and they'll have personal trainers. 1142 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,560 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of these guys, particularly the star players, 1143 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: and which basically means that the guys on their schedule, 1144 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: they're not on the guy schedule, right, So he could 1145 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,879 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins can pick when he wants to work out 1146 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: and the guy will be there for him. But anyway, 1147 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: he tweets out that hey, listen if you want to 1148 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,919 Speaker 1: get some work in. Meet me at Herman Park Miller 1149 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 1: Outdoor Theater tomorrow at nine am. So he invited young 1150 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: athletes and on social media and about fifty kids. Fifty 1151 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: guys showed up and the MSG viewers can see it now. 1152 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: These aren't just like six year old kids. These are 1153 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: high school and college athletes who showed up and they're 1154 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 1: running sprints up and the outdoor theater, Outdoor Park Theater 1155 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: is a hill, a grassy hill. Man. I don't know 1156 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 1: if any of you people who've worked out running hills 1157 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 1: is awesome for you. Man, it's running stairs, running hills, 1158 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: running up hill, doing StairMaster, that kind of stuff. Great workout. 1159 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins got a great turnout for you know, fifty 1160 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: young guys came out and worked out with it. Well, 1161 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: when you get that that buzz or that that alert 1162 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: on your phone or even you just see it out 1163 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: of nowhere, that's a once in a lifetime chance for 1164 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: you to go work out with an NFL player at 1165 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: a spot you know, right around the corner from you. 1166 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty cool to see that DeAndre Hopkins 1167 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: did that a and that you know, the turnout was 1168 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: as good as it was, And I'll tell you what, 1169 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: I bet you those guys were working their butts off 1170 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: on that day because that's the ultra motivation, especially if 1171 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: they're trying to do something with their football careers. Yeah, 1172 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's getting on that emotional roller coaster again. 1173 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,160 Speaker 1: See if I go out here and work out with 1174 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, he's gonna tell somebody and they're gonna come 1175 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: watch me play exactly. You know that's because you never know. 1176 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: You never know if that guy is going to have 1177 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 1: a positive impression for you and then want to go 1178 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: to bat for you. It's it's you know, it's yeah, 1179 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: or help you to give you set of information whatever, 1180 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: call in college, get you, get you looked at and 1181 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: get a scholarship out right, get advance your career. You 1182 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: never know. But by the same token, it's also a 1183 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: chance to watch somebody who's really good do it. There's 1184 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: nothing like that. How does he prepare? What can I do? 1185 00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: What does he do? And what can I take to me? 1186 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: And what what do you mean for me? That's that's 1187 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: huge again and good for good for DeAndre Hopkins. It's 1188 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 1: good to do that because you never want to work. 1189 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 1: It's no fun working out by yourself. No, certain I'm 1190 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: telling you. So. As we talk about DeAndre Hopkins and 1191 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: who's an All Pro, Pro Bowl caliber wide receiver, certainly 1192 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: one of the most difficult guys to cover one on 1193 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,520 Speaker 1: one in the league, we're talking about the wide receivers 1194 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills as they head to training camp. 1195 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: There are thirteen names on the wide receiver list currently 1196 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 1: on the Bill's roster, and they go all the way 1197 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: from Calvin Benjamin, Jeremy Curly, Zay Jones, Rod Street or 1198 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Riley, Ray Ray McLeod, Austin Pearl, Cam Phillips, Robert Foster, 1199 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: Kwan Bray, Andre Holmes, Malachai Dupree, and Kaylin Clay. It's 1200 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,800 Speaker 1: a lot of folks. Yeah, there's a lot of guys, 1201 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: and there's only one person on that list that is 1202 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: guaranteed much of anything, and that's Calvin Benjamin. He is 1203 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,880 Speaker 1: guaranteed to be a starter because they don't the gap 1204 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: between him and the next best guy is a very 1205 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: large one, and so that's why he is completely safe 1206 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: in doing what he's doing. But past that, quite literally 1207 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: everything is up for grabs. I mean, even Zay Jones 1208 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: spot and not not a roster spot. He's gonna be 1209 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: on the team, don't get me wrong, but he is 1210 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: not locked in as a starting player for this Buffalo 1211 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Bills team. Probably be on the team. He'll be on 1212 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, he's going to make the roster. They're 1213 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: not going to give up on him that quickly, but 1214 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: probably starting, I don't know, unless he gets out played. 1215 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and let's face it, Rod Streeter came in 1216 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: and played extremely well last year. He was a free agent, 1217 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: a guy they signed, came in. He was playing really, 1218 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 1: really well. And if it gets to the point where 1219 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Zay Jones is not the number two and he's not 1220 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,400 Speaker 1: a slot guy as a number three, he won't be 1221 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: around as a number four. I see. I think. I 1222 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: think he will make the roster no matter what, because 1223 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: they invested a very big resource in him with a 1224 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: second round pick, and they moved up to get him, 1225 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: and I just don't know that they are in a 1226 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: position to give up on him like that after standing 1227 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 1: by him after everything that kind of went happened in 1228 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the offseason. I mean, stand and buy him because they 1229 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560 Speaker 1: got no other option. As soon as they get another option, 1230 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: they don't they're gonna move away, but they don't have 1231 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: another option. I mean, it might take him a little 1232 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: while this season. Any as long as I've been in 1233 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the media, which is like twenty plus years, I've never 1234 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: gotten the fan. I know you do it, and I've 1235 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 1: done it. I guess. I see some cases where it's 1236 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: like that, where a new regime comes in and they 1237 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: sweep out the old guys and stuff. I don't think 1238 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: they ever do that. They don't sweep out the old 1239 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: guys because just because they're from the old regime. They 1240 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 1: sweep them out because they're not good enough, right, They 1241 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: sweep them out because their attitude is wrong. They sweep 1242 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 1: them out because they've got a better option. And particularly 1243 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: in this scenario of the Buffalo Bills in twenty eighteen, 1244 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: when they head in after going to the playoffs last 1245 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: year and really kind of overachieving last year, this is 1246 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: a regime that's got a lot of slack. Their honeymoon 1247 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: period is gonna is extended because they they got rid 1248 01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: of a bunch of guys who were highly touted, very talented, 1249 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: and the team was better because they got rid of 1250 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: or even after they got rid of those guys. But 1251 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: in the case, but in the case of Zay though, 1252 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a handpicked guy from Sean McDermott. 1253 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 1: He took him in the second round. And that's why 1254 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: it just leads me to believe that even if he 1255 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: doesn't become the starting receiver this year, he's going to 1256 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: be on this team, even if he's a four or five. 1257 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: And look, Zay Jones, he really struggled last year, and 1258 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: specifically with the mental side of things, because he had 1259 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: he's got really good hands, but at the beginning of 1260 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,960 Speaker 1: the season, his hands were betraying him and it was 1261 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: in his head. But then he got to a point 1262 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of the year. I believe it was 1263 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: the Jets game, the Thursday night game, where he just 1264 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: he had the best game of his career that night, 1265 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: and he got injured twice in that game, but he 1266 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: still showed better there than he had the rest of 1267 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 1: the season and then kind of, you know, faded back 1268 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 1: into a Livian through the rest of the year. But 1269 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 1: I think for Zay Jones, he needs to have a 1270 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: big push early on in training camp to hold off 1271 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: some of these guys because I'll tell you what, there's 1272 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Malachi Duprie who played 1273 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: really well at the beginning of OTAs before he injured 1274 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: his hamstring. And he's a guy with a lot of talent. 1275 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Jeremy Curley is there, who's not going to 1276 01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: go into the way going into the night quietly. So 1277 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: there are some guys that will challenge him for that spot. 1278 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: So it is not guaranteed, but he needs to go 1279 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: out there and earn it. And you know, I think 1280 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, he probably will be 1281 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: the starter alongside Calvin Benjamin, just because from a talent perspective, 1282 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: and they need to find out more than anything that Well, 1283 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing that you forget. Every guy on opening 1284 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: day last year, every guy that was on the team 1285 01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: is also a Sean McDermott guy. You don't keep him. 1286 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: He kept him and he played sixteen games with all 1287 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: these guys last year, and he Rod Streeter was a 1288 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 1: guy he kept around. They want him back. And of 1289 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 1: course every draft pick this year and every draft pick 1290 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,760 Speaker 1: last year is a Sean McDermott guy. But and that 1291 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: is what everybody forgets. If the guy was on the 1292 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 1: team and has been on the team for a year, 1293 01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 1: he becomes their guy, whether no matter his origin and 1294 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: you've got a guy like Jeremy Curley. They brought him in, 1295 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: and what it becomes about is what you said, it 1296 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,479 Speaker 1: was a second round pick. There is an investment there. 1297 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. They get in just as much 1298 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: credit for drafting Austin Prole in the seventh round when 1299 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: everybody else passed him over. They get as much credit 1300 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 1: for finding him if he turns out to be a 1301 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 1: great player, or Ray Ray McLeod. True, they get the 1302 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 1: credit for finding the guy in the sixth round who 1303 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: turns into a Pro Bowl caliber player. So they don't care. 1304 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Once they picked the guy, they don't care who gets 1305 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: the credit for where, how they got him. If they 1306 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: kept him, they get the credit. But you don't think 1307 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: there's a certain stigma. I mean, if we're talking about 1308 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: potentially releasing Zay Jones, if he's not the one, two 1309 01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: or three, oh it is on Zay Jones, you don't 1310 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 1: think there's a stigma that for the for the organization themselves, 1311 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: that they screwed it up after the incident off the field. No, 1312 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: they're totally they can wash their hands of it. See 1313 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that they can because I mean, 1314 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 1: question he's a bust, is a second rounder. They're they're 1315 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 1: standing by, but that would be the first time they missed. 1316 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: They stood by him. Now now he's through the off 1317 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: the field stuff or from what they said, and now 1318 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,400 Speaker 1: it's to a point in time where it's now an 1319 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,440 Speaker 1: on the field thing. What are they gonna listen? They 1320 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: took a team that was less talented the playoffs last year, 1321 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,959 Speaker 1: and then in their second year or in their first 1322 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: draft when they had a different GM, they missed on 1323 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: a second rounder. I think that's a bump. That's not 1324 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: even a bug on a win. See I I kind 1325 01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: of disagree with that because that was there. That was 1326 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott's second pick ever, and they needed a wide 1327 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: receiver badly and to swing and miss that that much 1328 01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: if if it does come to that, I mean, I 1329 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,720 Speaker 1: don't know that they would necessarily want to rid themselves 1330 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: and admit a mistake that quickly. And also remember say 1331 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Jones is really young for where he was drafting everything 1332 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: along those lines, and I think for him there's a 1333 01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 1: maturity aspect that has to come up, and there also 1334 01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: is talent there, and I just don't know, especially with 1335 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: receivers nowadays, from college to pro. They're not running the 1336 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 1: type of routes in college that they that they do 1337 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: in pro for for you know, by a grand scale, 1338 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: and there's a certain bit of a learning curve once 1339 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 1: you get into the NFL, So it takes these wide 1340 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,120 Speaker 1: receivers a little bit longer to adapt to the NFL, 1341 01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: I guess nowadays. And you're even seeing like a lot 1342 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 1: of these first round wide receivers that are being taken 1343 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: in the past couple of years, they're not making a 1344 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: huge impact right away. You can count them on probably 1345 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: one hand, those early guys that can do it. So 1346 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I think for them, even if he's not the one, 1347 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: two or three, Jones is absolutely going to be on 1348 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: this roster. There's no doubt in my mind. Perhaps he 1349 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: was the fourth wide receiver taken in that draft they 1350 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: trade it up to get him. Chris taken after him. 1351 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster was taken at sixty two, so there's 1352 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: a you know, if you're gonna get back to it, 1353 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, Juju Smith Schuster in the year he had 1354 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh, that's the guy everybody missed on cause you 1355 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: go back and the first guy pick was Mike Williams, 1356 01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: by the Los Angeles Chargers, right, and he was hurt, right, 1357 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: and then it was then it was John Ross. Well, 1358 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: there was a Thankary Davis to the Titans, Corey I'm 1359 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: sorry Corey Davis at five, and then Mike Williams John Ross. 1360 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 1: But that you go back, you had it all the 1361 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 1: way at sixty two to find a guy that really 1362 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: really uh lit it up for their team, right, and 1363 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,280 Speaker 1: and that that's the wide receiver point. You have to 1364 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: wait on these guys almost. It's it's kind of it's 1365 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: interesting because it never used to be that way, and 1366 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: I guess people were spoiled on that one receiver rich 1367 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: year that brought you know, Watkins, Evans, Odell Beckham, I mean, 1368 01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,200 Speaker 1: all these different guys and right now it's now it's 1369 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 1: more of a wait and see with receivers just because 1370 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: of the way college football is. So there's thirteen guys 1371 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 1: in the Buffalo Bill's wide receiver depth chartum, and we're 1372 01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: kind of going through his. Zay Jones is really the 1373 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: one that's a wild card because like you said, he's 1374 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: pretty much a lock to be on this team and 1375 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: they're not gonna give up on him after after the 1376 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 1: year that he had in the offseason that he had. 1377 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Plus he's he's he's already injured, so he's got he's 1378 01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: got an uphill battle to get back into where everybody says, okay, 1379 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: all right, we're good with Zay. Yeah, he's got to 1380 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 1: fight his way back into respectability. I think on him. Yes, 1381 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I agree with that. He has to fight into a 1382 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: starting job. It's not going to be given to him. 1383 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: And I mean the Bills have stood behind and behind 1384 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: him and everything along those lines, but he has to 1385 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: earn it because there are guys that are capable enough 1386 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: of starting on this roster. And it's not as though 1387 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: he had this overwhelming year last year to where you 1388 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: sit there and go, all right, well, he has to 1389 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: be in the starting lineup no matter what. If he's 1390 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,559 Speaker 1: not in the starting lineup and he's buried on the 1391 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,120 Speaker 1: depth chart, that's on him. If if he gets cut 1392 01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: all together, then that's on the Bills, and I don't 1393 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 1: think they want to put that on them. And I 1394 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: think another intriguing gut name on the list is Rod 1395 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Street or he was lighting it up last year and 1396 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: then he got injured and he's a six year guy. Yeah, 1397 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,599 Speaker 1: so he's got some experience about how to hang around 1398 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: the league and how to be a pro and how 1399 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 1: to prepare himself. And he knows the opportunity more so 1400 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,280 Speaker 1: than any of these players. In his six years, he's 1401 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 1: gonna know what experience has taught him about what kind 1402 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: of opportunity this really is, and it is a big opportunity. 1403 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 1: He is thirty years old. And now the Bills are 1404 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 1: in a spot to where they have Kelvin Benjamin on 1405 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: the roster, they have Zay Jones on the roster. Jeremy 1406 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: Curly is probably going to make this team and be 1407 01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,680 Speaker 1: their slot receiver. Andre Holmes is their special teams guy. 1408 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: And they just drafted two receivers. How many are you keeping? Well, 1409 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: see more than more than six. So you got Rod Streeter, 1410 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,799 Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, I don't know that, Jem Curly 1411 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: right right, So if he plays well, yeah, but because 1412 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: he can play teams, so you got him as a 1413 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: special teams player. So you got those four guys, Zay Jones, 1414 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Benjamin Streeter, and Curly. Okay, well you only get five. 1415 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,880 Speaker 1: But then there's Andre Holmes too, right, who's a special 1416 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the major special teams contributor. So he's probably gonna be 1417 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: on this team. You drafted the two guys five, McCloud 1418 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 1: and prol I don't know that you keep seven. Yeah, 1419 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: so Streeter might be. You'll have somebody if you can, 1420 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,799 Speaker 1: they'll have a couple of spares on the practice squad. 1421 01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 1: And also Malachai Dupree. Watch out for this guy in training, Kevin. 1422 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling him he's he's a good little player. They're 1423 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: all here for a reason. They can all play. The 1424 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,879 Speaker 1: question is can they play for this team in this scenario. 1425 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: Can they step up and play well enough this early 1426 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: in their career or at this point in their career? 1427 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you got we haven't he said anything about 1428 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Riley in the kind of camp he put together 1429 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, and the fact that he's been in 1430 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: this system and in this team and on the in 1431 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: this locker room for an entire year. You got and 1432 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: this Robert Foster, who was the fastest guy out there, 1433 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,599 Speaker 1: who if they want any kind of guy who can 1434 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,839 Speaker 1: take the lid off the defense and go deep, Fosters 1435 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,640 Speaker 1: the guy. And he played in this offense with uh 1436 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 1: with Alabama last year. So it's uh yeah, I mean 1437 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: it's like thirteen rolls of the dice. It really is. 1438 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 1: But I mean, well you have to like look at 1439 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: all of these different skill sets and how they kind 1440 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,760 Speaker 1: of make it. I kind of lumped you brought up 1441 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Riley. I kind of lumped him into pre together 1442 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,559 Speaker 1: because they were both with the Bills throughout the duration 1443 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: of last year on the practice squad, and they were 1444 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: both a late call up to the active roster. And 1445 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 1: so they both have that experience with the Bills and 1446 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,960 Speaker 1: they know what they're all about. But then you you 1447 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: bring in guys like Foster who you brought up, and 1448 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: he's a very interesting story and if he can stick, 1449 01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: and I mean he's he's familiar with Brian Dabele and 1450 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: being with Alabama both last year, and so I think 1451 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: all in all, they have to make a pretty stark 1452 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,240 Speaker 1: decision one way or another at the wide receiver spot, 1453 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:44,799 Speaker 1: whether it be releasing someone like Jeremy Curley or releasing 1454 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: someone like Rod Street or or you know, cutting away 1455 01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: cutting ties with one of their two draft picks, Prole 1456 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 1: or McLeod. Something has to give because I don't think 1457 01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean, they could keep seven, but that's that's pushing 1458 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: it on this roster, especially with the talent that might 1459 01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 1: might be out there elsewhere, and it's ounds and it is, 1460 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: we don't know how good these guys are gonna be. 1461 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 1: And it sounds like to us like, hey, they're gonna 1462 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: On one hand, it sounds like, wow, they're gonna have 1463 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: to release a really good player. Guys are gonna play 1464 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: in the league. What you hope is hope you hope 1465 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 1: that's the case. You got nine guys that can really 1466 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: play in the NFL, and you got to go to 1467 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: down to five or six. The problem is you got one. 1468 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,200 Speaker 1: What it really is is just all of these unknown 1469 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: qualities that are going to be on one field, and 1470 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: you don't know if any of these guys can actually 1471 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: play when you get when you get to an actual 1472 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: game situation, because the only guy that has proven the 1473 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,640 Speaker 1: two guys that have proven it are Kelvin Benjamin and 1474 01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 1: Jeremy Curley. And Jeremy Curley's getting up there in age. 1475 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,560 Speaker 1: But it seems like just because he has the experience 1476 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 1: and he was firmly locked in as the first team 1477 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: slot guy throughout the entire spring, it seems like he's 1478 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna have a pretty substantial role on this team. So 1479 01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 1: outside of those two guys, everything is up in the air. 1480 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Because some guys do one thing well, like Andre Holmes 1481 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 1: is a great special teams player and a really good 1482 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:09,639 Speaker 1: run blocker. Is he a dynamite wide receiver? He he's okay, see, 1483 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 1: but but you don't want to put him out there 1484 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 1: more than fifteen percent of your snaps. That's right. Yeah. 1485 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: And the thing to me is it, I don't know, 1486 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: there's so many, so many question marks that you come 1487 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 1: to training camp not knowing, and you know, maybe Calvin 1488 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: Benjamin is the guy, maybe he's not. But the simple 1489 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is, you know there's a lot 1490 01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: of optimism about what it could be. And I think 1491 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: that's where everybody spins it. And you know, we sit 1492 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 1: here and we talk about, you know where it could turn. 1493 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Jeremy Curley that you talk about him, and the thing 1494 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 1: it strikes me about him is the dependability of it. 1495 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: The guy shows up every week and if you've got 1496 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,720 Speaker 1: if you if you need him get open, he can 1497 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,800 Speaker 1: get open. You can make the catch. Now, he's not 1498 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 1: one of those guys who's going to have a one 1499 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen catches for thirteen hundred yards for keep 1500 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: him from the slot. But he is a guy that's 1501 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna be there when you need him to be there, 1502 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 1: and he's gonna not make mistakes. He may not be 1503 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: able to win physically, but he's not gonna make mistakes. 1504 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: And the quarterback's gonna know and trust him. So that 1505 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to me is it's a big step. I honestly think 1506 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 1: we're just keeping the seat warm until it gets to 1507 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen offseason. Because Kevin Benjamin's in his contract year. 1508 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,599 Speaker 1: Odds are they're going to address the offense in a 1509 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 1: big way in the draft next year because they've got 1510 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: a lot of talent already on defense, and a wide 1511 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: receiver could be one of those spots where they go 1512 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 1: with a big swing, whether it being free agency or 1513 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,679 Speaker 1: the draft. All right, let's take let's take a break 1514 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 1: from this thing. I want to take one last call 1515 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,040 Speaker 1: before we go to commercial. They've been waiting up for 1516 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,560 Speaker 1: a long time. Robert is calling in from North Carolina. 1517 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,920 Speaker 1: Robert from North Carolina. You're on one Bill's Live. Thanks 1518 01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:48,519 Speaker 1: for waiting. What's on your mind? I just had a 1519 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 1: I have a moment in a quick question for you, Steve. 1520 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, d Remember you are at a church in Clarence, 1521 01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: and a older woman came up to you after said 1522 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: nothing to you, just give you a big old hug 1523 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 1: and said you are my favorite fields player. Well, I 1524 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that's not the only time that's happened, 1525 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,840 Speaker 1: particularly an older women. I'm big with that crowd. Um 1526 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,280 Speaker 1: is that was that she related to you? Yeah? That 1527 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: was my grandmother. Oh, that's good that if she's still 1528 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: with us. No, no she is not. Ah, So I'm 1529 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: sorry to hear that. Let's go, we'll tell and tell 1530 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 1: your parents are what. I'm glad you shared that with me. 1531 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad that her memory of me was happy one. 1532 01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. Um. My favorite moment I was I was 1533 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:41,440 Speaker 1: about four or five. He went to UH camp and 1534 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: UH and in Virdonia and I, um, um, I got 1535 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 1: to meet a bunch of people and I got to 1536 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,800 Speaker 1: meet you, Sertam Sermon and uh. My aunt uncle had 1537 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,400 Speaker 1: gotten a big picture of Jim Kelly and I haven't 1538 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: gotten and I didn't get to meet him yet. And 1539 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,559 Speaker 1: so my uncle got the big picture and I gotta 1540 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 1: find his shoulders. I held it up. Everybody's yelling Jim Jim, 1541 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 1: and he's signing things in and I yelled, mister Kelly, 1542 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 1: mister Kelly, can you sign this for my grandparents? And 1543 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 1: he pointed me out, came right over and signed it 1544 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: for me and said, it was nice to meet you. 1545 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 1: And I've been a built fan ever since. Great man, 1546 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,720 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Well, I appreciate it, Robert, thank you so much. 1547 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,320 Speaker 1: Waiting for us from North Carolina. I waited a long 1548 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 1: time to get on the show. And I'm glad, he 1549 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: shared that we thank you. Always are kind of relieved 1550 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: because you never know what people really think about you 1551 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,200 Speaker 1: until they come back and tell your memory. And I'm 1552 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 1: glad that his grandmother came up and gave me a 1553 01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 1: hug and Lancaster Church someplace, and I said I was 1554 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: your favorite player. I'm glad it was nice memory because 1555 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 1: you never know how you how people react. But that's great. 1556 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad, he called in. We are talking at Joebascalia 1557 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker on One Bills Live. What are your training 1558 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,360 Speaker 1: camp memories? Do you have one where you went to 1559 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 1: training camp, got a chance to meet guys, get an autograph? 1560 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,559 Speaker 1: What was your favorite part and favorite memory about this 1561 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,320 Speaker 1: time of year? Stay with us. You're listening to One 1562 01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:16,080 Speaker 1: Bills Live. From One Bill's Drive Buffalo Bills Radio, Welcome back, 1563 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Joe Pascalia, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live. We're taking phone 1564 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 1: calls from people who've had memories about visiting training camp. There, 1565 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 1: favorite autograph session, or when they had a favorite thing 1566 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: they saw a training camp. We're getting we haven't done 1567 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,519 Speaker 1: any of this yet. Today we've got tweet sheet going wandering. 1568 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 1: Jack says, favorite memory in between two days for Tony 1569 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 1: meeting with Marcellus Wiley and Sam Gash at a local 1570 01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 1: restaurant for lunch. They signed autographs, chatted with me. I 1571 01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: was a young fullback and Gash was super nice. Funny memories, though, 1572 01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,679 Speaker 1: EJ inaccuracy. He threw a ball into the hospitality tented 1573 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,560 Speaker 1: at Saint John Fisher, much to our chagrin. That's a 1574 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, remember that winds. Those were the days EJ 1575 01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,960 Speaker 1: throwing the ball chest just a little bit outside. Yeah 1576 01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,639 Speaker 1: it happened, It actually did happen. Yeah, then former listen 1577 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,559 Speaker 1: I got. There's one of my former teammates, John Davis, 1578 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: who was on a couple of Super Bowl teams with me, 1579 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 1: big offensive lineman. His favorite thing from training camp was 1580 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: getting to meet the awesome Steve Tasker, what a guy. 1581 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Thanks John, appreciate her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then from 1582 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: Chris Kukowski, Marshawn Lynch letting me wear his helmet and 1583 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,320 Speaker 1: he signed my program. Leevans came over and signed it 1584 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 1: to great Time. So yeah, everybody getting to meet these guys, 1585 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things we've noticed. It's a 1586 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,680 Speaker 1: chance and it's great too because the players you can 1587 01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 1: tell by the you know these guys that they're talking 1588 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:43,479 Speaker 1: about me excluded that they know that training camp is different. 1589 01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna meet some fans, they're gonna greet 1590 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 1: some fans. The fans came out just to see him 1591 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: as a different atmosphere. They don't have to worry about 1592 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: the scoreboard, winning or losing the game, and they are 1593 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: more accessible and it's it's fun to go out. If 1594 01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 1: you've never done it, I'd encourage you to do it 1595 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 1: once to see what you see. If you like it not. 1596 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,839 Speaker 1: It's not for everybody, and certainly every day is different 1597 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and can be different for everybody. But if you go 1598 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: out there and you have a great experience, it's something 1599 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,880 Speaker 1: that obviously from all these tweets and all these phone 1600 01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: calls We're getting in something that sticks with you for sure, 1601 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 1: and uh, just we talked about the EJ Hospitality tenth 1602 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 1: throw Um were you in there? No? No, well I 1603 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,719 Speaker 1: saw I wasn't in the hospitality tent, but I saw 1604 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 1: it happen. And you know, I think our producer Jay Harris, 1605 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: he got he got hit with the ball from EJO 1606 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,600 Speaker 1: much not too much later. I think it might have 1607 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 1: been the next day or something like that. I think it. 1608 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,680 Speaker 1: Did anybody along those Did Billy Buffalo get hit in 1609 01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 1: the side of the head by an EJ fastball? I 1610 01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: don't know. No. I think I think Billy was from 1611 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Bull Durham, the old movie. Sorry, hey yeah perfect. Listen 1612 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,360 Speaker 1: from Austin Hancock heat tweets in my best Bill's training 1613 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,280 Speaker 1: came memory was meeting Drew Bledsoe's first summer there after 1614 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,840 Speaker 1: the trade. I was ten. I waited in line three 1615 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 1: hours to meet him, and once I did, he was 1616 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,040 Speaker 1: the most chill guy I from it, so friendly and 1617 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 1: down to earth. That's one of the things that people 1618 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:08,400 Speaker 1: don't get it. And then if and then from pat Thurman, 1619 01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:14,440 Speaker 1: Thomas's wife Patty when Angel Pie thirty four, when Thurman's 1620 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,479 Speaker 1: daughter asked her dad Thurman, if he slept in a 1621 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 1: tent at training camp. You know all that stuff comes 1622 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:26,240 Speaker 1: from awe strikesure. Oh boy, Fredonia, July of nineteen ninety one. 1623 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,360 Speaker 1: First time he was in Buffalo, my pen pal Jeanette 1624 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 1: just said I was from France to a security guy. 1625 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 1: So his friend, his girlfriend told the security guy he 1626 01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 1: was from France and and Wonderland opened right away. The 1627 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Bill's staff was nice. We were able to walk onto 1628 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the field, even chat with mister Ralph Wilson was the 1629 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 1: time of my life. So they lied and told them 1630 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 1: they were this guy was visiting from France. They snuck 1631 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 1: out of the field with security. Hey, we got somebody 1632 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: from France come on in. So they gave him VIP 1633 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 1: treatment just because they thought they like cone heads or something, right, 1634 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,439 Speaker 1: are from France. Side note, does anyone have penpals anymore? 1635 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: Is that? Is that a thing? People? It was ninety one. No, 1636 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 1: I understand and it's yeah, I just do you think 1637 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: does anyone really do people know what penpals are anymore? Well? 1638 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Maybe not think about it. Maybe not the ones that 1639 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,600 Speaker 1: were born in the past eighteen years, or yeah, they 1640 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 1: don't know the past ten years or so. But yeah, 1641 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, did you ever have one of those? I 1642 01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 1: think I did an elementary school. Yeah, you know, you 1643 01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: used to kids from one school would write pen pals 1644 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 1: in another. It was a forced pen yeah, yeah, yeah. 1645 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: We didn't keep in touch right, right, And there was 1646 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: somebody who had never met right, right, you'd never met them, 1647 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,639 Speaker 1: and you would write letters. And of course you'd write 1648 01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 1: a letter and it it'd take you. You know, you 1649 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 1: don't type. Everybody learned to write cursive, right, So you'd 1650 01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,800 Speaker 1: write the letter, address it and you had foot in 1651 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: an envelope with your return address. You know, you learned 1652 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 1: how to do mail envelope. That was how you learned 1653 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: to mail and put a stamp on it. And in 1654 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 1: a week they would get it, they would do and 1655 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,639 Speaker 1: then they would read it and they say, oh God. 1656 01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 1: And then they would take their time when they got 1657 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 1: to write one and then write it back. So it's 1658 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,800 Speaker 1: a two way, two week process virtually to get a 1659 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 1: reply to the least yes, right, so um, and that 1660 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,599 Speaker 1: was yeah minimum, that's if you did it right away. 1661 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: So people had relationships with people they didn't know. I'm 1662 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 1: trying to remember where like back in the past and 1663 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,559 Speaker 1: this is like one of the memories is the pen 1664 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,120 Speaker 1: pal they actually met. He and he was from first 1665 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: time to Buffalo. I don't know where he was from. 1666 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: And he said, he laughingly says he's from France. He 1667 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,600 Speaker 1: wasn't from France. That's good. So, yeah, that's hilarious. So 1668 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,600 Speaker 1: the VIP, they get the VIP treatment back at it 1669 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,120 Speaker 1: was it would listen. It was good. It was. It 1670 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,559 Speaker 1: was a cowboy atmosphere down down there. I mean it 1671 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 1: was very low key, no security. I mean, it's just 1672 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,320 Speaker 1: a lot different these days. A small fans. There was 1673 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 1: no stands, people standing around, the fans standing there right 1674 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,000 Speaker 1: next to you. They were literally thirty feet away from 1675 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,639 Speaker 1: anywhere on the field. You wanted to be completely different, 1676 01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 1: completely different. And then we you and I were having 1677 01:22:55,240 --> 01:23:00,559 Speaker 1: the conversation last segment about wide receivers, wandering Jack about 1678 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:02,920 Speaker 1: the witer he says, I think on the wide receivers, 1679 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna keep six Benjamin Calvin, Benjamin, Zay Jones, 1680 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,839 Speaker 1: Jeremy Curly will be on the team, either Streeter or Holmes. 1681 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 1: And then one of the draftees drafted rookies on the 1682 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: practice squad and one of them Riley, either Riley or 1683 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 1: dupre Foster, Brave Phillips Clay one of them also on 1684 01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: the practice squad. Yeah, I think I see. I wonder 1685 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,639 Speaker 1: if if they might be because I remember what Brandon 1686 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Bean had said about wanting right after the draft about 1687 01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 1: wanting to have all of their draft picks on the roster, 1688 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,479 Speaker 1: and we would prefer to have it that way. And 1689 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 1: so when they take two wide receivers, if only if 1690 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: only one of them are guaranteed to make the team, 1691 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,840 Speaker 1: then then sure that that can be applied. But I 1692 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,640 Speaker 1: honestly think Ray Ray McCloud's best chance to make the 1693 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 1: roster is as the punt return guy UM, and he 1694 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: could definitely do it because there's there's not much opposition 1695 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: for him right now, at this time of year, more 1696 01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: than any other. You got to remember the guy may 1697 01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: be good punt returning maybe, but if you put him 1698 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,879 Speaker 1: on the team, somebody's got to come off right exactly, 1699 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,000 Speaker 1: And I think, well, his only UM competition right now 1700 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 1: at punt return, I think it's Kaylin Clay, Austin Prowle 1701 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,640 Speaker 1: was back there, maybe Curly was back there too, but 1702 01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, but then see you. But then McLeod 1703 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 1: has the experience of doing it at Miami and actually 1704 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 1: showed a little burst doing it. And then Austin Prowle, 1705 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he showed a chemistry with with Josh Allen 1706 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 1: during during the mini camp and during OTA's and I 1707 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,599 Speaker 1: wonder if that might buy him into a spot if 1708 01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: he continues that along a training camp. So I could 1709 01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: see a situation where both those rookies are on the 1710 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,200 Speaker 1: team and they're only being six wide receivers, right, And 1711 01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: you may very well be right, But here's here's what 1712 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 1: I remember too. You go down and you can say, hey, 1713 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: one of those guys got to be a kicker. Now, well, 1714 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: then you go down look across the way. Here's what happens. 1715 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 1: I think, Well, we don't have a wide receiver who 1716 01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 1: can return kicks, but we got you know, you name it, 1717 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,679 Speaker 1: like Levi Wallace, one of the cornerbacks, you know, even Ryan, 1718 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 1: All these guys we don't know about. I think the 1719 01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:00,640 Speaker 1: two guys you got, all these first year cornerbacks that 1720 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe they can maybe they can do it. 1721 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 1: And that's that's where you get to when you think, okay, 1722 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a dB catch Ken. Yeah, I think 1723 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: the two guys they were having at back at kick 1724 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,880 Speaker 1: return was the two running backs, Jones and Kid. Dad's 1725 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 1: a little older guys, and I think only one of 1726 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:18,840 Speaker 1: those guys are going to crack the roster because of it. 1727 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: Whoever wins that job probably get set. So it's it 1728 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: all boils down to what they want to do with 1729 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: their roster. And if if it's keeping seven wide receivers 1730 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: just to see if one of these guys can actually play, 1731 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,560 Speaker 1: then do it. But also realize you're gonna be sacrificing 1732 01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,519 Speaker 1: a fifth safety, or a sixth cornerback, or a ninth 1733 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, something along those lines that maybe you would 1734 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,840 Speaker 1: have liked to have as a as a luxury. Yeah, 1735 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: and before we go on with any other we're gonna 1736 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,360 Speaker 1: take one more phone call. We got from Memories a 1737 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:50,120 Speaker 1: training camp and also stuff coming in about who when 1738 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 1: you can watch the game? Who had a guy on 1739 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: yesterday about the new streaming deal with CBS. But we're 1740 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 1: gonna take this phone call from Jerry and Buffalo. Jerry, 1741 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 1: thanks for hanging on so long. Stephen, Joe, you're on 1742 01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. What's What's on your What's on your mind? Hello, guys, 1743 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: how are you doing what right? Glad to hear it. 1744 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 1: We's just a real quick just your opinion, Steve and Joe. 1745 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm a little I guess myth. I guess you could 1746 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,920 Speaker 1: say the NFL network right now they are showing the 1747 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 1: Bills Coats game from last year on the NFL Network, 1748 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,759 Speaker 1: and quite honestly, I mean I watched the NFL Network. 1749 01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't see any football lives or Marv or Thurman 1750 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: or Bruce and it's just you know, then they're gonna 1751 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: show this game today instead of the game last year 1752 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 1: versus the Dolphins that got us to the playoffs. And 1753 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams end zone celebration. To me, that's more of 1754 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: a more of a I guess representation of the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, 1755 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 1: it's an interesting it's an interesting Thanks, Jerry's I appreciate 1756 01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 1: the call. It's an interesting point. It depends on what 1757 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,920 Speaker 1: you want to watch, Jerry, And let's face it, it's 1758 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,519 Speaker 1: all subjective because if you think of the big picture, 1759 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 1: NFL network is not putting the Bills game on because 1760 01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 1: they think they want Buffalo Bills fans to be happy 1761 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:03,639 Speaker 1: and come in tune in. What they're doing is they're 1762 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,559 Speaker 1: putting a game on. They think that has a wide 1763 01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 1: broad appeal, and that snow game last year against Indianapolis 1764 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: was maybe one of the highlights of the season for 1765 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 1: the television viewers around the country. For Buffalo, I don't 1766 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,479 Speaker 1: know Buffalo. We you know, we got thin skin. Everybody 1767 01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 1: makes fun of Buffalo for the weather, and quite frankly, 1768 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:21,439 Speaker 1: when I go out on the road, and I've said 1769 01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,040 Speaker 1: this a million times, when I go on the road 1770 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,760 Speaker 1: doing games at CBS and either we're doing on the 1771 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,000 Speaker 1: road with a Bills game or on the pregame, I 1772 01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,960 Speaker 1: make fun of the weather and Buffalo because it keeps 1773 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,280 Speaker 1: the riff raft out of our town. If everybody knew 1774 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: what we know about Buffalo, there'll be three million people 1775 01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 1: living here because well, we're here because we love it, right, 1776 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm here because I love it. My family's here because 1777 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,400 Speaker 1: they love it. We all like Buffalo. We it's our town, 1778 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 1: and and we know people don't get it. They don't. 1779 01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: They see this game in the snow against Indianapolis and 1780 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,240 Speaker 1: they think I never lived there, you know what, So what, 1781 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,439 Speaker 1: we like it, But you know what that game in 1782 01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 1: itself was. I mean, you're seeing it right, the work 1783 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,280 Speaker 1: of art. It visually stunning. I mean, you don't. You 1784 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: don't see that sort of thing too often. And then 1785 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,719 Speaker 1: I remember even just a simple thing of where where 1786 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:14,400 Speaker 1: I think a defensive back dove for a pass to 1787 01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 1: try and break it up in the end zone disappeared. 1788 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 1: It disappeared completely. He just went right into a snow bank. 1789 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 1: And it's you don't. You don't come across that really ever. 1790 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 1: And then I mean, look at Sean McCoy running right 1791 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,200 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm on MSG, he's just you see 1792 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,120 Speaker 1: a cloud of dust come up every time he brings 1793 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 1: his feet up, And it's just that's why I think 1794 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 1: they put those games on because it has it's a 1795 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,519 Speaker 1: memorable event. It's not about the Bills fan base. It's 1796 01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,080 Speaker 1: about that game being so stunningly beautiful. To watch the 1797 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:47,240 Speaker 1: Bills in the all red jerseys with the white helmets, 1798 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 1: and the Colts in the white jerseys, white pants, white 1799 01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 1: helmets with the blue trim. It was just, I mean, 1800 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 1: it was absolutely spectacularly beautiful. Yeah, and forget about the 1801 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,360 Speaker 1: fact that it was a ten seven game did go 1802 01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,200 Speaker 1: to overtime, the home team won. The crowd was way 1803 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 1: into it, and I'm telling you. I was the sideline 1804 01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:11,759 Speaker 1: reporter for that game, for Adam Archiletta and Spirodidas and 1805 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: the guys. Here's what happens. You're in an NFL broadcast 1806 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: that in certain occasions, when something happens New York and 1807 01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,040 Speaker 1: they monitor all the CBS games, obviously they'll call the 1808 01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,479 Speaker 1: truck and tell the producer who's in charge of the broadcast, say, listen, 1809 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,080 Speaker 1: you missed this party you need We're looking for this. 1810 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: What your game's missing something. You know, they'll keep a 1811 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,640 Speaker 1: kind of a bird's eye view about it, because when 1812 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you're doing the game, you kind of focus on some 1813 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 1: things you get and you get off track a little bit. Sometimes. 1814 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,799 Speaker 1: In this case, New York kept calling our truck and saying, 1815 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,600 Speaker 1: show the sidelines. We want people to see what it 1816 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,120 Speaker 1: is like. Show we are going live. We're gonna We're 1817 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 1: gonna join you the whole net. We want the whole 1818 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 1: country to see this game. Send us this highlight, send 1819 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 1: us that highlight. We're showing this highlight on every other 1820 01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,639 Speaker 1: game that we have. We want all of this stuff 1821 01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 1: to spread out all over the country because everybody wants 1822 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 1: to see what's going on in Buffalo today. And that's 1823 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,559 Speaker 1: why they're showing that game on on NFL Network right now. 1824 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,280 Speaker 1: And I don't blame them because that I mean from 1825 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:19,560 Speaker 1: a from a media perspective, the I guess the overwhelming 1826 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,719 Speaker 1: support of that game from social media. I mean Twitter 1827 01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,120 Speaker 1: was a buzz over that over that game, even pre 1828 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,840 Speaker 1: game when it was you could see the green of 1829 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,000 Speaker 1: the field and then an hour later you couldn't see 1830 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,160 Speaker 1: it past the twenty yards. The pre game it was beautiful, 1831 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little cloudy and all that. Maybe hey, 1832 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 1: maybe we'll get some flurries, and looking at man, oh man, 1833 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: it's you know, well, we're here in Buffalo. We hear 1834 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,599 Speaker 1: in Buffalo. No. When it came down, we got it, 1835 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 1: and they got hit right in the snow belt and 1836 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,040 Speaker 1: right where it hurts, right on. And I said this 1837 01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,799 Speaker 1: in the pre game, and in fact, I was quoted 1838 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,519 Speaker 1: a ton on social media. I'd been here since nineteen 1839 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,840 Speaker 1: eighty six, and I talked to all the guys from 1840 01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,120 Speaker 1: the sixties and the seventies who played. I've talked to 1841 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 1: fans and we here on the show. Nobody has ever 1842 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,280 Speaker 1: seen a game like that in Buffalo, a town that 1843 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,840 Speaker 1: is known for bad weather. And I said it on 1844 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:11,640 Speaker 1: the pregram, I said this, these are the worst conditions 1845 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,280 Speaker 1: for any game in the history of Buffalo. And that 1846 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 1: was true, and it's still true, and that's what got 1847 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,720 Speaker 1: grabbed by my entire day of work. Those that one 1848 01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,240 Speaker 1: line is what, you know, got resonated around the country 1849 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 1: because everybody equates Buffalo with bad weather and to say 1850 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:30,920 Speaker 1: that it's the worst of all time. They wanted to 1851 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,479 Speaker 1: see it, and you were right. How long did it 1852 01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:34,599 Speaker 1: take you to dig out your car that night? Oh yeah, 1853 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,519 Speaker 1: I came back. I came out. It was fine. I 1854 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 1: pulled in. It was like pavement, it was clear. I 1855 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,120 Speaker 1: went back out. I actually got a find. In fact, 1856 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 1: during the break, I'll try and find the picture on 1857 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,479 Speaker 1: my phone and see if we can see if we 1858 01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,599 Speaker 1: can dig it out, and I'll show you my my 1859 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 1: my jeep. When I came back out of it, legitimately 1860 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,120 Speaker 1: took me like twenty five It was it was a 1861 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:55,120 Speaker 1: chore and it was you know, and people were still 1862 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 1: hanging around or whatever. Okay, anyway, that was a great, 1863 01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 1: great phone call. I'm about why they're showing that game 1864 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 1: on TV, and Joe, you're in the TV business and 1865 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm in the broadcast business as well. There's only one reason, man, 1866 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 1: that game was absolutely beautiful night. Come back and join us. 1867 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,280 Speaker 1: We got much more One Bill's Live from One Bill's 1868 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome 1869 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,680 Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Joe Viscalia, Steve Tasker. We're 1870 01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:32,560 Speaker 1: talking about the wide receivers of the Buffalo Bills and 1871 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,559 Speaker 1: his training camps are about to get started, the youth 1872 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: movement that's going to be there, and all the question 1873 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 1: marks that are in that. As you see if people 1874 01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:41,040 Speaker 1: are watching on MSG the Jim Kelly camp going on 1875 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,639 Speaker 1: outside and one and new era of field right down 1876 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 1: on the stadium. It's a hoot for the young kids. 1877 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,120 Speaker 1: That's been going on all week. And we were talking 1878 01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,400 Speaker 1: about training camp and all the things that are going on. 1879 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:51,800 Speaker 1: One of the things that kind of got overlooked it 1880 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,479 Speaker 1: was assigning in early in the offseason the free agent period. 1881 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a free agent period or whenever, 1882 01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: but when the Bills signed Chris Ivory, veteran running back 1883 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,160 Speaker 1: to compliment Leshaun McCoy. One of the things that has 1884 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,880 Speaker 1: come out recently, there's a nice article on Buffalo Bills 1885 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 1: Dot com about what Chris Ivory brings to the Buffalo Bills, 1886 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,640 Speaker 1: and he really is a little bit like that the 1887 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:16,759 Speaker 1: philosophy they showed last year at the running back position, 1888 01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: where you've got Leshaun McCoy who's a very slippery guy, 1889 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 1: then they want to have a complimentary runner Chris Ivory, big, heavy, 1890 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,599 Speaker 1: physical running back. Yeah, it's I think it lends itself 1891 01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 1: a lot to maybe what Brian Dable is thinking what 1892 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,880 Speaker 1: he wants from the running game. I mean, outside of 1893 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,000 Speaker 1: Lashaw McCoy, they didn't have much of a plan with 1894 01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,639 Speaker 1: the running game. I mean they kept throwing Mike Tilbert 1895 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 1: out there, and Mike Tilbert started to become the uh, 1896 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 1: the albatross of the Bill's backfield to Bills fans because 1897 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,720 Speaker 1: he just it just didn't seem like there was an 1898 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,200 Speaker 1: actual plan outside of Lashaw McCoy. And so with Chris Ivory, 1899 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 1: now they have someone who if they need him to, 1900 01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 1: can can take over the starters reps. If Shaan McCoy 1901 01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,439 Speaker 1: does get hurt, well, I get a thing to Lashan 1902 01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,639 Speaker 1: McCoy is complete back. He can run routes. You don't 1903 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: have to take him out on third down. You don't 1904 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 1: have you can put him in and you can run 1905 01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,760 Speaker 1: him between the tackles, you can run him wide, you 1906 01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 1: can split him out. You don't have to take him 1907 01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:15,839 Speaker 1: off the field. The only reason he's off the field 1908 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,160 Speaker 1: is for a rest. Yes, he'd give him a break, 1909 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,040 Speaker 1: just to cut his snap count down. And I think 1910 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:26,639 Speaker 1: now with Ivory Ivory and if they keep Travera's cadet 1911 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 1: or Taiwan Jones, whichever of those two, I mean, now 1912 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 1: you have two guys that you have one that can 1913 01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 1: rush it straight up the middle and be good between 1914 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,479 Speaker 1: the tackles, and the other one who's good in the 1915 01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,040 Speaker 1: passing game. And you have more of a natural rotation 1916 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 1: as opposed to what you had last year, which was 1917 01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,000 Speaker 1: everything depends on Lashan McCoy and then outside of him, 1918 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 1: let's throw Mike Tilberd in there. The only downside to 1919 01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 1: Chris Ivories he's nine year veteran. I mean, he's gonna 1920 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 1: be thirty years old. There's a lot of miles on 1921 01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 1: the tires on McCoy, Ivory, to Debt, even Taiwan Jones, 1922 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,040 Speaker 1: they're they're all pushing thirty years old. If not, they're 1923 01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,559 Speaker 1: already right. But you know what I'll tell you the 1924 01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:08,840 Speaker 1: thing is, and I like, I kind of applaud the 1925 01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,599 Speaker 1: coaching staff for being they got enough guys. I mean, 1926 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:11,960 Speaker 1: if one of them goes down, they still got three 1927 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,240 Speaker 1: other guys, even though they are thirty years old. You 1928 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:16,400 Speaker 1: never kind of plan for that. You do. You plan 1929 01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: for depth. You plan for having the best guys you 1930 01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 1: can get at every position on your roster, as deep 1931 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 1: as you can get. But you don't plan on guys 1932 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,120 Speaker 1: getting hurt. But if they do, you need That's why 1933 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,160 Speaker 1: you get the best guys available behind him and you 1934 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,639 Speaker 1: have a plan, but the plan always changes when somebody 1935 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,280 Speaker 1: goes down, right on. My one contention though, is that 1936 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: they don't have a young guy on the roster. I mean, 1937 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,000 Speaker 1: they have Keith Ford, who's an undrafted free agent out 1938 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,000 Speaker 1: of Texas A and M. They have Marcus Murphy, who 1939 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 1: it seemed like he was going to have a bigger 1940 01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 1: role in the in the playoff game and ended up 1941 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,200 Speaker 1: not even getting on the field once. See, I would 1942 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 1: if it were me, I would like to have some 1943 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: sort of infusion of youth. Maybe they combed the waiver 1944 01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 1: wire once once the final rosters come out, but I 1945 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: think that needs to be an important here because they're 1946 01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,919 Speaker 1: putting all their eggs in the basket of a position, 1947 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:07,639 Speaker 1: you know, with a lot of experience, but it's also 1948 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 1: a position that through the test of time has shown 1949 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,800 Speaker 1: there is a steep drop off once these players get 1950 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,160 Speaker 1: to thirty years old. Yeah, but I think also McCoy's 1951 01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,679 Speaker 1: probably absolved from that, but the other guys maybe not. Well, 1952 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,280 Speaker 1: here's the thing though, when you get to that age, 1953 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:22,280 Speaker 1: what they usually do and what it has worked in 1954 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: the past for other teams, and maybe here I can't 1955 01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,760 Speaker 1: think of a specific example, is when they do get 1956 01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,479 Speaker 1: to be thirty years old, you limit their snaps and 1957 01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 1: you make sure they stay fresh. You don't, you don't 1958 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: they don't practice Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. They practice Wednesday 1959 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 1: and Friday, or they practice Thursday and Saturday, or they 1960 01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,680 Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, that kind of thing. So you 1961 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 1: can limit their time away from the field where they 1962 01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: can stay fresh when they get there on Sunday. And 1963 01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 1: they've shown the ability to be professional enough to be 1964 01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,280 Speaker 1: ready even without a day of practice during the week. 1965 01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:54,080 Speaker 1: And I think too, when you cut down their snaps 1966 01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:55,920 Speaker 1: in their workload, when you've got guys you can depend 1967 01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,280 Speaker 1: on who are veterans who do show up and do 1968 01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,720 Speaker 1: turn it up to the highest level when they do 1969 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,760 Speaker 1: step on the field. With three of those guys, you 1970 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,600 Speaker 1: can you can do that. I have no problem with 1971 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:08,200 Speaker 1: that at all. And plus I don't think there's any 1972 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:10,760 Speaker 1: reason to think you need to have a young guy 1973 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,080 Speaker 1: in the background, like learning the ropes to get on 1974 01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,439 Speaker 1: the field and take over for these guys ill maybe 1975 01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,640 Speaker 1: not even getting on the field this year, but just 1976 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,559 Speaker 1: someone that you know in the event that you know, 1977 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,519 Speaker 1: let's say Chris Ivory isn't the same guy as he 1978 01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,600 Speaker 1: was too three years ago, or Travers Cadet loses a 1979 01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:30,599 Speaker 1: step after going down with an injury last year. I mean, 1980 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,799 Speaker 1: I think that these are legitimate question. Yea. It boils 1981 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: down to Lashawn. I mean, if Lahan's gonna stay healthy, 1982 01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:37,880 Speaker 1: they don't have anything to worry about. And if he 1983 01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 1: goes down, no matter who's backing him up, they got 1984 01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:46,640 Speaker 1: some problems. Precisely, precisely, that's exactly right. Precisely, we're gonna go, 1985 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. Elliot Harrison coming up at 1986 01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Stay with us One Bill's 1987 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,840 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio 1988 01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:08,599 Speaker 1: Hills Radio Network Sports Date. The NFL released a statement 1989 01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: today that following a league investigation, it was confirmed that 1990 01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 1: there was a workplace there was workplace misconduct by former 1991 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Panthers owner Jerry Richardson. Richardson will be fined two point 1992 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:21,799 Speaker 1: seven five million, which will be given to organizations supporting 1993 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,799 Speaker 1: survivors of sexual and domestic abuse and women of color. 1994 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,120 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck told the Indianapolis Star that he has experienced 1995 01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,800 Speaker 1: no pain whatsoever in his throwing shoulder as he continues 1996 01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,200 Speaker 1: his lengthy rehab from injury. Luck has been throwing for 1997 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,840 Speaker 1: about a month and it plans to continue throwing with 1998 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,800 Speaker 1: his Colts teammates this summer leading up to training camp. 1999 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,800 Speaker 1: Geners Jenkins older brother has been charged with the aggressive 2000 01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 1: manslaughter following the death of a man at the Giants 2001 01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:50,479 Speaker 1: cornerback's residence in New Jersey. The victim is a family 2002 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,919 Speaker 1: friend of Jenkins, but the NFL veteran was in Florida 2003 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:57,920 Speaker 1: during the time of the murder. The Buffalo Sabers continuing 2004 01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:01,000 Speaker 1: their prospect camp downtown at the Harbor Center. Our Friends 2005 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: the Instigators will be live at the camp ten to 2006 01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:07,519 Speaker 1: noon tomorrow and the first overall pick Rasmus Daleen and 2007 01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 1: former first rounders Casey Middlestatt and Alex Kneelander all part 2008 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,760 Speaker 1: of the four day development camp that wraps up Saturday 2009 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:19,719 Speaker 1: with the annual French Connection Tournament. Also TSNs Pierre Lebrun 2010 01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 1: says that former Blues goalieue Carter Hutton is the leading 2011 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 1: option for the Sabers. Hutton will become an unrestricted free 2012 01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,200 Speaker 1: agent following a seventeen and seven record in thirty two 2013 01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,599 Speaker 1: games last season that included a two point zero nine 2014 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:36,120 Speaker 1: goals against average and a nine thirty one save percentage. 2015 01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:40,240 Speaker 1: The NHL's free agency begins July. First World Cup action. 2016 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:44,519 Speaker 1: The Cup finals a couple of finals from earlier. Today, 2017 01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:47,559 Speaker 1: Columbia defeated Senegal one nil to advance to the round 2018 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 1: of sixteen. Also Poland downs Japan one nothing. Despite the loss, 2019 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,360 Speaker 1: Japan qualifies for round of sixteen by the virtue of 2020 01:39:55,400 --> 01:40:00,200 Speaker 1: a better disciplinary record than rival Senegal, and just about 2021 01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,040 Speaker 1: to get underway, it's England and Belgium, both who already 2022 01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 1: qualified from Group G, and also Panama versus Tunisia. Finally, 2023 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,280 Speaker 1: after two straight wins, the Bisons wrap up their homestand 2024 01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:13,320 Speaker 1: with the Pawtucket Red Sox this afternoon, and right now 2025 01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth inning, Buffalo is up to nothing looking 2026 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,679 Speaker 1: for a three game sweep. We are here on One 2027 01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Bills Live please right now to be joined by Elliott Harrison, 2028 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,200 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and NFL Network analyst and contributor to 2029 01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,799 Speaker 1: the NFL Total Access and also a host on Sirius 2030 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 1: xm Elliott, thank you so much for joining us. Steve 2031 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,400 Speaker 1: Tasker job Biscalli on One Bills Live. How are you today? 2032 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:41,439 Speaker 1: I'm good. You know, I don't want to to hijack 2033 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,280 Speaker 1: the program, but I have to say I was just 2034 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,880 Speaker 1: doing a little light reading on my nineteen eighty five 2035 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:50,559 Speaker 1: oilers because people may not know this, but Steve was 2036 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,759 Speaker 1: a backup receiver for the Oilers, and I could remember 2037 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,120 Speaker 1: Drew Hill and Tim Smith, but these other guys, I've 2038 01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:59,519 Speaker 1: looked it up to say, like who is the third 2039 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,559 Speaker 1: and fourth receivers? And Steve, these guys, I'd never heard 2040 01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,240 Speaker 1: of them. And I pride myself on knowing mid eighties nostalgia, 2041 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 1: and I could only go too deep on the wide 2042 01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,880 Speaker 1: receiver depth chart. Oh you didn't know those other guys, 2043 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 1: You didn't know Mike Cocou and Willie Drewy. I knew 2044 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 1: Willie Drewy, but I couldn't find how there he is. 2045 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,840 Speaker 1: Willie Drewy multi returned kicked, so if I recall, that's right. 2046 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:26,000 Speaker 1: But Mike Kakou know, and Mike Holston Burkey Walls, Urkey Walls. Yeah, 2047 01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:29,760 Speaker 1: they called him Herkey because his real name was Hercules. Yeah, 2048 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 1: so great, great stuff. Anyway, I just always remember you 2049 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 1: started with the Oilers, So anyway, stop, No's all right, 2050 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,920 Speaker 1: because I remember most people don't know this, but one 2051 01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,000 Speaker 1: of the draft mates of Mike and my crew there 2052 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,360 Speaker 1: that I got drafted with was a guy named Mike 2053 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,960 Speaker 1: Golik who ended up on Mike and Mike. He and 2054 01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 1: I were draft buddies, draft mates in the Houston Orders 2055 01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,160 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five, same teams, so I'd go back 2056 01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 1: a long way with him. You guys were actually really 2057 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,719 Speaker 1: close that I know that the record wasn't good five 2058 01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:00,720 Speaker 1: and eleven, but I remember You'll played a tough game 2059 01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 1: at RFK, and then the next year you got robbed 2060 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 1: at RFK. You got robbed, and then the next year 2061 01:42:09,160 --> 01:42:11,160 Speaker 1: you probably could have beaten Dallas too, if you had 2062 01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 1: any pass protection. I remember that game and then the 2063 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:16,200 Speaker 1: next year you opened up at Lambeaux I think, and 2064 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,760 Speaker 1: throttled the Packers and they just by the time you 2065 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:21,920 Speaker 1: let they just weren't ready to turn the corner yet. 2066 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't think in eighty five and eighty six, but 2067 01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: you would know better than the Well, that's right, they 2068 01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,400 Speaker 1: switched head coach at the n eighty five but you know, 2069 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Glambolle became the head coach and they did make 2070 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs under Jerry and had a pretty good run 2071 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:35,280 Speaker 1: with Warren and those guys. So, m yeah, you are, 2072 01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:39,200 Speaker 1: You're right. Elliott Harrison showing up with some eighties nostalgia. 2073 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:42,280 Speaker 1: Very nice. Hey, the reason the reason we had Yahn 2074 01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:45,080 Speaker 1: you had an interesting article where he took all thirty 2075 01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:48,840 Speaker 1: two NFL head coaches and you ranked them from one 2076 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,639 Speaker 1: through thirty two. And it's interesting because anytime you put 2077 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,720 Speaker 1: a list of this magnitude together, you're gonna get some pushback. 2078 01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,000 Speaker 1: And no question, all these these teams from around they 2079 01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,760 Speaker 1: read it, and you know, and I'm telling La you 2080 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 1: must know this too. Every NFL coach knows exactly where 2081 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 1: you ranked him and why, and whether they admit it 2082 01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,280 Speaker 1: or not, where they don't where they say, hey, I 2083 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,800 Speaker 1: don't read that stuff or not. You know, they all 2084 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 1: did it. Give us somebody, What was some of the 2085 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 1: things that you differentiate? Obviously, you know a guy like 2086 01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:19,120 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is number one, Sean Payton and those guys. 2087 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,479 Speaker 1: But when you get down into say like ten through 2088 01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,640 Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty five, then you start getting into 2089 01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:26,720 Speaker 1: some some coin flips. I think, what were some of 2090 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,400 Speaker 1: the things the major factors in the way you rated 2091 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,800 Speaker 1: these guys? Well, I think you know, my editor, I've 2092 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,599 Speaker 1: been doing this for a few years and I have 2093 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 1: a power ranking show where ranked the team's on NFL 2094 01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,160 Speaker 1: Network during the season, So I'm used to kind of 2095 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:44,960 Speaker 1: not being able to please anybody. But but my editor 2096 01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 1: brought up a really good point, and he said, you know, 2097 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,679 Speaker 1: he goes. They kind of realized as I was going 2098 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,840 Speaker 1: through your list, the way I would rank coaches in 2099 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,040 Speaker 1: the way you rank them are totally different. And he said, 2100 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 1: you're neither one is wrong. He would rank them based 2101 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:00,640 Speaker 1: on who do I want to hire from team this 2102 01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:04,519 Speaker 1: upcoming season. So for example, he thought Kyle Shanahan at 2103 01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty three was way too low. It should have been 2104 01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,800 Speaker 1: higher up on the list. I tend to rank more 2105 01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:13,200 Speaker 1: on what have we seen. So when people say Aaron 2106 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,599 Speaker 1: Rodgers is the greatest quarterback of all time, I always 2107 01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,320 Speaker 1: say not if he were never to play against, like 2108 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,000 Speaker 1: if he retired right now today. I think you're projecting. 2109 01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,240 Speaker 1: And so the same thing with head coaches. So you 2110 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,360 Speaker 1: asked about some of the interesting ones. As you get 2111 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,640 Speaker 1: side outside of the top ten, I think a lot 2112 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:30,599 Speaker 1: of people would have wanted me to have Marvin Lewis 2113 01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot lower. People were very, very down on Marvin Lewis, 2114 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't have him high. But the thing is 2115 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:39,599 Speaker 1: is that if you remember where the Bengals franchise was 2116 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,400 Speaker 1: when he took them over, and it's been long forgotten, 2117 01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:45,240 Speaker 1: but I would say the Cincinnati Bengals and the Dallas 2118 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:49,799 Speaker 1: Mavericks were the two worst franchises in sports in the nineties. 2119 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals couldn't get out of their own way, 2120 01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:54,800 Speaker 1: and Marvin Lewis got there, they went eight and eight. 2121 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,800 Speaker 1: He brought a lot of stability. He hasn't had a 2122 01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,639 Speaker 1: good couple of years. That's the guy people think should 2123 01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:03,679 Speaker 1: be a lot lower. Kyle Shanahan they think should be higher. 2124 01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,120 Speaker 1: And if we were to go in the top ten. Uh, 2125 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, Steve, the guy I'm getting the most criticism 2126 01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,439 Speaker 1: on is having Mike McCarthy in the top ten. People 2127 01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:16,120 Speaker 1: are not big on Mike McCarthy about that. Yeah, it's 2128 01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 1: interesting because they kind of credit they you vacillate between 2129 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,760 Speaker 1: crediting the players that the guys that is endowed with 2130 01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,640 Speaker 1: and not these schemes and the program and the and 2131 01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:30,360 Speaker 1: the stability of the organization that as a result of 2132 01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:34,519 Speaker 1: his presence. And it's it's an interesting balance. And and 2133 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,720 Speaker 1: you're right, there is a lot of ways to look 2134 01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,479 Speaker 1: at anytime you rank it rank things. But if you 2135 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,600 Speaker 1: were yeah, this is a very different list if you 2136 01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: go by who you want to hire for your team, right, 2137 01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:47,720 Speaker 1: it's way different. You know, you just have to go 2138 01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 1: on what you know right now. And I'll tell you 2139 01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:53,200 Speaker 1: something that I really believe in that I think I'm 2140 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 1: probably in the minority of you played those two Cowboys 2141 01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:01,200 Speaker 1: teams with Jimmy Johnson. You know, he laughed. Barry Switzer 2142 01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,880 Speaker 1: took over, and Barry Switzer has been just so criticized 2143 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:08,960 Speaker 1: as as not a good head coach in the NFL. Well, 2144 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,680 Speaker 1: what Barry Switzer did. He showed up, He looked at 2145 01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:14,600 Speaker 1: his assistant coaches and said, these guys have done a 2146 01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,200 Speaker 1: great job. Why why would I want to hire anybody else? 2147 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of coaches have too much 2148 01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,559 Speaker 1: ego to do that. And so I think one thing 2149 01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:24,720 Speaker 1: we have to remember with coaches is skill sets come 2150 01:46:24,760 --> 01:46:27,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways. It's not all XS 2151 01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,760 Speaker 1: and oth. Mike Tomlin gets guys to play for him. 2152 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,280 Speaker 1: Barry Switzer had a very low ego and try to 2153 01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,120 Speaker 1: just slide in and Dallas and not get too much 2154 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:38,559 Speaker 1: in the way. I think there's a room for all 2155 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 1: of it. With Mike McCarthy, are we really going to 2156 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,759 Speaker 1: blame him because Ted Thompson provided him with Brett Barbe 2157 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,519 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers And going further all, we're gonna say 2158 01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:50,599 Speaker 1: that Mike McCarthy had no role whatsoever in Aaron Rodgers development. 2159 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I don't buy it. No, I 2160 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,840 Speaker 1: agree with you. And going from a Bill's perspective, I mean, 2161 01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,160 Speaker 1: you had Sean McDermott the bottom half of things after 2162 01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,920 Speaker 1: a playoff appearance in his first season. What went into 2163 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,639 Speaker 1: his ranking where he is and what do you think 2164 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:11,240 Speaker 1: about him as a coach just based off his first year? Well, 2165 01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's a good questions because actually Sean was 2166 01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:19,120 Speaker 1: one of the I say, Sean my world. Palermott was 2167 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,400 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting guys on the list because 2168 01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,240 Speaker 1: I thought he did a heck of a job. But 2169 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,680 Speaker 1: you had the lack of experience going against him. And 2170 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,519 Speaker 1: I hate to point it out because you never want 2171 01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 1: to jump on a bandwagon with someone to think criticized 2172 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,759 Speaker 1: for something. But I'd have to say the most ominous 2173 01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,559 Speaker 1: coaching decision of the twenty seventeen season was the week 2174 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:44,360 Speaker 1: they started Peterman out in LA Why is that? Well 2175 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:47,720 Speaker 1: because a couple of things, one had almost cost him 2176 01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:52,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Spot two, why Tyrod Taylor may not dazzle. 2177 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,519 Speaker 1: I don't think Tyrod Taylor did anything to warrant being 2178 01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 1: sat down. I've always thought, and you guys would know 2179 01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,360 Speaker 1: better than me because you were there. I've always thought 2180 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:03,719 Speaker 1: the fan base there's a little bit harder on Tyrod 2181 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:08,559 Speaker 1: than they needed to be. That said, Peterman clearly wasn't 2182 01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,519 Speaker 1: ready to play. I think he had five interceptions in 2183 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,320 Speaker 1: the first half, if that's correct. Yeah, oh yeah he did, 2184 01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:17,320 Speaker 1: and if two or three of them were his fault, 2185 01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,760 Speaker 1: no question about it, right, And you know, I think 2186 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,880 Speaker 1: part of coaching, and again, you guys chime in here 2187 01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,000 Speaker 1: is intuition and knowing whether or not your young player 2188 01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:30,200 Speaker 1: is ready, regardless of whether your starter might be floundering 2189 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:32,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, regardless of whether the guy has a 2190 01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of upside. And I know you've got to take 2191 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,040 Speaker 1: a look at Peterman. At some point, I just felt like, 2192 01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:39,320 Speaker 1: with a team that hasn't been in the playoffs since 2193 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, that was not the time to do it. 2194 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,600 Speaker 1: And the Chargers throttled him. And you'll see I had 2195 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,559 Speaker 1: Anthony len who, by the way, I have a lot 2196 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,519 Speaker 1: of respect for you guys are very familiar with. I 2197 01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,160 Speaker 1: had him just a hair hire. Yeah, And I'll tell 2198 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,320 Speaker 1: you this. Here's here's what happened, and the way we 2199 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,719 Speaker 1: saw it in Buffalo that the week before they benched 2200 01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,160 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, he threw for fifty six yards in a 2201 01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:03,200 Speaker 1: game at home against the New Orleans Saints. And that 2202 01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,519 Speaker 1: was really at the point where this team was on 2203 01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,800 Speaker 1: teetering on the chance where that maybe they could roll 2204 01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:11,639 Speaker 1: the dice and catch lightning in a bottle and get 2205 01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:14,120 Speaker 1: something going and keep it going. But they couldn't have 2206 01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback who couldn't throw the football for more than 2207 01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,960 Speaker 1: a fifty couldn't throw it for sixty yards in an 2208 01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:22,559 Speaker 1: NFL game, And they said, you know, we're gonna roll 2209 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,960 Speaker 1: the dice. Maybe Peterman won't play great, but at least 2210 01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,559 Speaker 1: he'll throw the football in a way that gives us 2211 01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:30,400 Speaker 1: a chance to win these games. And of course it 2212 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,520 Speaker 1: blew up in their face. They you know, in retrospect, 2213 01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:36,000 Speaker 1: obviously they wouldn't do it again because it didn't go well. 2214 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,840 Speaker 1: But in looking at it the way it was in 2215 01:49:38,920 --> 01:49:42,519 Speaker 1: Buffalo at the time, there was an easy case to 2216 01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 1: be made for trying something anything to keep that spark 2217 01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 1: alive at a point where they had gotten off to 2218 01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,960 Speaker 1: a fast start. So I think that was the reasoning 2219 01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:55,120 Speaker 1: behind starting Peterman, and at that point nobody expected that 2220 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:57,400 Speaker 1: team to make the playoffs. Yeah, but the intuition part 2221 01:49:57,439 --> 01:49:59,479 Speaker 1: of it, what you brought up is a good point, 2222 01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 1: because you know, I think Sean should have had a 2223 01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,479 Speaker 1: better feel. McDermot should have had a better feel for 2224 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,200 Speaker 1: what Nathan Peterman was at that point in time. So 2225 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:09,599 Speaker 1: I agree with you there. I think that he put 2226 01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,439 Speaker 1: a little bit too much on his rookie going against 2227 01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,320 Speaker 1: probably the best defensive line in football last year. Yeah, 2228 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 1: you're allowed to call him Sean, by the way, because 2229 01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,640 Speaker 1: you talked to him a lot. You know. I think 2230 01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:25,880 Speaker 1: a great analogy to that situation is Rolemode it days 2231 01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,680 Speaker 1: against the Packers on fourth and a long one in 2232 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:31,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs a few years ago. It's a great call 2233 01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,200 Speaker 1: if that works, to throw it up top and go 2234 01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,720 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Otherwise, why not give the ball to 2235 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,280 Speaker 1: de Marco Murray and get you that yard and keep driving. 2236 01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:42,120 Speaker 1: You know, when you take a gutsie, make a gutsy 2237 01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 1: call and it doesn't work out, you don't get credit 2238 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 1: for it. And that's the way. That's what makes it gutsy, right, 2239 01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,080 Speaker 1: That's what makes it a risky play, and you have 2240 01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:55,160 Speaker 1: to take If you make a risky play and it 2241 01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,920 Speaker 1: doesn't work, you can't really get credit for well, hey, 2242 01:50:57,960 --> 01:50:59,760 Speaker 1: at least, you know, at least he had the guts 2243 01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,719 Speaker 1: to go on fourth and eighteen. Hey, fourth and eighteen 2244 01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,960 Speaker 1: didn't work out, you know. So maybe that's an odd analogy. 2245 01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,760 Speaker 1: It's just the first thing came to my mind. I'm 2246 01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,599 Speaker 1: actually surprised, though. If I were to build stan I'd 2247 01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,240 Speaker 1: be far more upset that TuS White didn't make my 2248 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 1: All under twenty five. Well, we're gonna get we're gonna 2249 01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,920 Speaker 1: get to that. But you know what, Eliot, we're talking 2250 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,879 Speaker 1: to Elliot Harrison of NFL dot Com, NFL Network, candalysts 2251 01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,880 Speaker 1: and and contribute to NFL Total Access also hosts UH 2252 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 1: Serious XM NFL Radio and Elliott, I was gonna get 2253 01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:30,680 Speaker 1: to the uh the Tredavious White, but you know what, 2254 01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:33,880 Speaker 1: with the two guys have on there, and there's only 2255 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 1: slot for two cornerbacks. You've got Marshawn Lattimore and of 2256 01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:44,040 Speaker 1: course Jalen um Uh Ramsey, Jalen Ramsey from the from Jacksonville. 2257 01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:46,360 Speaker 1: Those are two pretty good guys, and I you know what, 2258 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:49,880 Speaker 1: I know, Tredavious is in the conversation, but Lattimore and 2259 01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,680 Speaker 1: the fact that Jalen it's not a rookie uh, it's 2260 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,920 Speaker 1: not a rookie list, it's an all under twenty five list. 2261 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,160 Speaker 1: So Jalen Ramsey deserves to be on there. And I 2262 01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,040 Speaker 1: think Marshawn Lattimore had every A this season that Tavius 2263 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,280 Speaker 1: White did last year. So they all under twenty five team, 2264 01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 1: those two top guys. I get it. I get it 2265 01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,720 Speaker 1: because there's only room for two corners, and that does 2266 01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,639 Speaker 1: include Jalen Ramsey, and he is as good as anybody 2267 01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:14,760 Speaker 1: in the league right now. He's outstanding. So I wasn't 2268 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,479 Speaker 1: going to give you any trouble about that, Elliott, But 2269 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:20,479 Speaker 1: since you brought it up, you know, I say I 2270 01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 1: get it yourself, I can just say I get it. Well, 2271 01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:24,639 Speaker 1: let me tell you, guys, it's either one of y'all 2272 01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:26,800 Speaker 1: plan on writing an article in the next few days. 2273 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,439 Speaker 1: I want y'all both to know this is a public 2274 01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,040 Speaker 1: service announcement for me to you, and no one's going 2275 01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,439 Speaker 1: to read your intro. Okay, oh oh, I know full well, man, 2276 01:52:36,320 --> 01:52:38,840 Speaker 1: nobody cares because I'm getting killed on that list for 2277 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,600 Speaker 1: not having Mike Evans. And I made it really to 2278 01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:44,120 Speaker 1: really make it more unique. I started doing it like 2279 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,320 Speaker 1: six years ago. I wanted to make it all under 2280 01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 1: twenty five at the start of the season. So if 2281 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:53,519 Speaker 1: they're under twenty five right now, that doesn't count if 2282 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:56,479 Speaker 1: they turned twenty five in August. And so that's what 2283 01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 1: I've mainly been getting destroyed for. But I thought Tredavious 2284 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:03,840 Speaker 1: White was standing last year, you know, Lattimore, I can't 2285 01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,880 Speaker 1: remember a rookie corner having as good a year as 2286 01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:10,480 Speaker 1: he had. I really can't. Uh. He was so impressive. 2287 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:14,400 Speaker 1: That's what the toughest competition was. And then Ramsey, I mean, 2288 01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 1: what a what a freak athlete that guy is. But 2289 01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Bills have enough young talent 2290 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,240 Speaker 1: to stay in the conversation so much as dependent right 2291 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:28,240 Speaker 1: now on their quarterback position. I hope A. J. Mccaron 2292 01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,120 Speaker 1: works out, but I know that's a big question mark 2293 01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:31,760 Speaker 1: you guys going to be dealing with for the next 2294 01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,720 Speaker 1: three months. Ellie, you know one thing I've done in 2295 01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 1: the past, so you know how you say nobody reads 2296 01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,559 Speaker 1: the intros, I've thrown like little easter eggs in there 2297 01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,680 Speaker 1: to say, hey, if you if you're reading this, you know, 2298 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:42,720 Speaker 1: shout me out on Twitter and he'll get you something. 2299 01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,040 Speaker 1: He'll get you a shout out or something like that. 2300 01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just no one reads that stuff. And 2301 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,040 Speaker 1: but I think you're right about Lattimore over over Turdavious White, 2302 01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:52,880 Speaker 1: and I covered Turdus all last year. I mean, I 2303 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,120 Speaker 1: think one important facet of this is the coverage, because 2304 01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 1: Tredavius is mostly a zone cover guy, and not to 2305 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 1: say it's it's less important. And then man cover but 2306 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,280 Speaker 1: on man coverage, you are on an island, and that 2307 01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 1: in Lattimore was just fantastic all year with that. Yeah, 2308 01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:09,760 Speaker 1: he absolutely was. I mean, you know, Sean Payton, I 2309 01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,280 Speaker 1: put him number two on the coaches ranking because I 2310 01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,640 Speaker 1: think it takes a heck of a head coach and 2311 01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,120 Speaker 1: there's no coincidence here, by the way, to change their 2312 01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:24,439 Speaker 1: philosophy and change their coaching style around. The Saints were 2313 01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:28,519 Speaker 1: a run the football, play defense, and let our veteran 2314 01:54:28,640 --> 01:54:31,360 Speaker 1: quarterback win the game if we need it type of 2315 01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,920 Speaker 1: team last year. And I say it's no coincidence because 2316 01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,960 Speaker 1: who did Sean Payton come up under Bill Parcel? We 2317 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:41,520 Speaker 1: always hear about Parcel's football right, run the football, play defense. 2318 01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:45,080 Speaker 1: If you watched Parcel's Patriots teams in the midnightties, they 2319 01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:49,520 Speaker 1: were airing it out with rough bloodsoll. He completely changed 2320 01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,160 Speaker 1: based on the talent he had around him, and so 2321 01:54:52,280 --> 01:54:55,160 Speaker 1: I gave Sean Payton a lot of respect for that. 2322 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:59,200 Speaker 1: But Steve am, I allowed to ask you a question. Yeah, 2323 01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:03,240 Speaker 1: someone think only if it's extremely personal, but yeah, go ahead. Yes, 2324 01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you to endorse me on LinkedIn. 2325 01:55:05,640 --> 01:55:11,880 Speaker 1: So I've always wondered this, who did you think were 2326 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:14,720 Speaker 1: the best special teams players, because I think a guy 2327 01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,880 Speaker 1: like Albert Shelley. Obviously Bill Baits did it forever. But 2328 01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:21,520 Speaker 1: one guy that I think is completely flown under the 2329 01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:24,520 Speaker 1: radar is Albert Lewis. I've never seen a guy being 2330 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,760 Speaker 1: able to block punts without leaving his feat. He was incredible. Yeah, 2331 01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 1: he was incredible punt blocker. And he was a long guy, 2332 01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,200 Speaker 1: six three long arms, had a power for Bill playing corner, 2333 01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,600 Speaker 1: very fast, great athlete, extremely intelligent, and the fact that 2334 01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:41,160 Speaker 1: he was such a good corner kind of belittle the 2335 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,280 Speaker 1: fact that he was never going to play specially. He 2336 01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,760 Speaker 1: was too good to play special teams, and they put 2337 01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,680 Speaker 1: him out there to block kicks every once in a while. 2338 01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,680 Speaker 1: He had I think he had most of his good success. 2339 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,640 Speaker 1: I think it was under Marty Schottenheimer with the Bills. 2340 01:55:52,680 --> 01:55:54,200 Speaker 1: He might have played in a Frank Gains for a 2341 01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:57,080 Speaker 1: minute there, but he was also in in LA or 2342 01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,560 Speaker 1: I guess was LA open. Yeah. So he was a 2343 01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:05,800 Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete and and he was you know, if he 2344 01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:07,880 Speaker 1: would have been relegated, particularly at the time if he 2345 01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,400 Speaker 1: played he was at or a little before my time, 2346 01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:15,080 Speaker 1: he would have absolutely been unstoppable on special teams because 2347 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,040 Speaker 1: I came into the league a little before special teams 2348 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,040 Speaker 1: evolved into the when they got to the forty or 2349 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,000 Speaker 1: forty five or forty seven guys on game day, special 2350 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,600 Speaker 1: teams really became dominant for a little while, and before 2351 01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:29,800 Speaker 1: the salary cap era, because they would keep veteran guys, 2352 01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, to play special teams and pay him, so 2353 01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't a place of development. So yeah, Albert Lewis 2354 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:38,440 Speaker 1: was a funny if don't want to get a channn't 2355 01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,520 Speaker 1: even know if they have YouTube highlights of him, but 2356 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,720 Speaker 1: he'd block a punt, would never jump, he'd never leap, 2357 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, he would get there so fast he would 2358 01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,320 Speaker 1: reach out and get it, and he would get it 2359 01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,120 Speaker 1: from impossible angles as well. So yeah, I agree with you. 2360 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,240 Speaker 1: I did. I know he was maybe one of the 2361 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:54,800 Speaker 1: great punt blockers of all time. I don't know how 2362 01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,280 Speaker 1: many he got in his career, but I think Alan 2363 01:56:57,320 --> 01:56:59,760 Speaker 1: Page is Yeah, I think Alan Page might lead the 2364 01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:04,640 Speaker 1: lead the league and career block kicks. But yeah, yeah, 2365 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,160 Speaker 1: he had eleven. I've been working on a little I 2366 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:11,040 Speaker 1: do these little history vignette so they're called TVT. They're 2367 01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:14,920 Speaker 1: on YouTube. We have a little channel, it's NFL History 2368 01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,960 Speaker 1: with Elliott Harrison and I do like a five to 2369 01:57:17,040 --> 01:57:20,960 Speaker 1: eight minute like mini doc, and I'm working on one 2370 01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,840 Speaker 1: for Lewis. And I went and tracked down all of 2371 01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,240 Speaker 1: this block punt and the one that cracked me up 2372 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,200 Speaker 1: the most was against Tampa Bay. He got there so 2373 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:32,000 Speaker 1: quickly that he just tackled the punter. Yeah, it's like, yeah, 2374 01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,360 Speaker 1: there was some Listen, there was some bad special teams 2375 01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:37,680 Speaker 1: being played in the early eighties of the league, and 2376 01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,200 Speaker 1: it of course had all changed later on. But yeah, 2377 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:41,720 Speaker 1: you can take advantage of it if you got the 2378 01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:45,200 Speaker 1: right guys. So any suggestions on Easter Eggs I could 2379 01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,640 Speaker 1: put in my intro because I could sure use it. 2380 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,040 Speaker 1: NA No, just say, you know, you don't have to. 2381 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a special team's column. Nobody's gonna read it anyway. 2382 01:57:54,160 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 1: So thanks Elliott, very good. Elliott Harrison, NFL dot Com, 2383 01:58:00,880 --> 01:58:04,320 Speaker 1: Serious XM, NFL Radio, also a contributor to NFL Total Access. 2384 01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:06,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. We really appreciate, really appreciate 2385 01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: your time. Go check his workout as a coaching power 2386 01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:12,280 Speaker 1: Coach Power Rankings on NFL dot Com. It's a ranking 2387 01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,640 Speaker 1: of all thirty two head coaches. Elliott, thank you so much. 2388 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:18,760 Speaker 1: Thanks set take care of guys. Yeah, when you ever 2389 01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:20,600 Speaker 1: you start making a list like that with these thirty 2390 01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:25,000 Speaker 1: two NFL it's interesting he brought it up. How do 2391 01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:28,200 Speaker 1: you quantify what a coach? Do you quantify what he 2392 01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,400 Speaker 1: has meant? Like a guy like Marvin Lewis is a 2393 01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:34,080 Speaker 1: perfect example that the Cincinnati Bengals were laughing stock Yeah 2394 01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,320 Speaker 1: before he got there, and now he's gotten there and 2395 01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,320 Speaker 1: been there fourteen years. They've never won a playoff game, 2396 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,640 Speaker 1: and yet he's not going anywhere until he decides to. 2397 01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,800 Speaker 1: Mike Brown won't let him go. Yeah, it's a different 2398 01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:51,920 Speaker 1: conversation because is it what what have they been? What 2399 01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:56,080 Speaker 1: are they now? And are you projecting? I mean, you 2400 01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,920 Speaker 1: have the guy you want for your team, right, you 2401 01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,840 Speaker 1: have to you have to struggle with not being a 2402 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,920 Speaker 1: prisoner of the moment of what just happened in this 2403 01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:07,520 Speaker 1: past season, right to get parachute into a bad team 2404 01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,840 Speaker 1: for decades and they've got like fifteen frost pick of 2405 01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 1: the drafts on. You know, I'm exaggerating, but like it's 2406 01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:17,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting, it really is. And that's why I think 2407 01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,120 Speaker 1: having a guy like Sean Payton right near the top 2408 01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:23,840 Speaker 1: of the list below. Belichick is absolutely dead on because 2409 01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's is the guy who's a forward thinker. 2410 01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's had great success there, and you know 2411 01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,320 Speaker 1: last year they had a great season. I think it's 2412 01:59:31,360 --> 01:59:34,520 Speaker 1: just I think it needs to be a meld of 2413 01:59:34,640 --> 01:59:36,720 Speaker 1: all of those different factors. And it's tough to do 2414 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,120 Speaker 1: because everyone looks at it differently. And if it's someone 2415 01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:42,560 Speaker 1: who's saying, hey, who do you want to start your 2416 01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:45,800 Speaker 1: franchise with, then that's, like you said, that's a completely 2417 01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:48,120 Speaker 1: different conversation. And it's also a guy like you talk 2418 01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:51,120 Speaker 1: about Sean Payton who has changed his philosophy last you know, 2419 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:53,800 Speaker 1: when he first got there to Saint any won a 2420 01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:57,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl using this philosophy, letting Drew Brees thrill for 2421 01:59:57,880 --> 02:00:00,160 Speaker 1: five thousand yards and airing it out and having those 2422 02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:03,520 Speaker 1: great wide receivers and Jimmy Graham at wide out, at 2423 02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:08,080 Speaker 1: tight ending and all that stuff. And then this last year, hey, listen, 2424 02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,760 Speaker 1: let's play some defense. Let's run the football's use our 2425 02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:12,720 Speaker 1: running backs and help that they actually had the defense 2426 02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,280 Speaker 1: to do it. And you know what they think about it. 2427 02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:16,880 Speaker 1: They should have been in the NFC Championship game and 2428 02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:20,440 Speaker 1: they got ye a complete miracle of a play in 2429 02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Minnesota beat them a miracle. It's like it was literally 2430 02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:28,400 Speaker 1: like the home run a throwback here in Buffalo, that 2431 02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,080 Speaker 1: miracle play beat them in that game and sent them 2432 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,440 Speaker 1: home for the season. Now they had two of the 2433 02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:38,600 Speaker 1: best rookies the entire season in Latimore and Alvin Kamara. 2434 02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Kamara was incredible to watch, and up until the point 2435 02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 1: where he suffered an injury, he was. I remember him 2436 02:00:47,320 --> 02:00:50,760 Speaker 1: coming into Buffalo and be like, they're not the Bills 2437 02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:52,880 Speaker 1: are not going to stop Alvin Kamara. It's just not 2438 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,160 Speaker 1: going to happen because they just don't have the players 2439 02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And a lot of 2440 02:00:57,440 --> 02:01:01,000 Speaker 1: teams ran into that because he was so stinking talented. 2441 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not your typical running back the way 2442 02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,680 Speaker 1: he's built. He's pretty thin, but when he gets the 2443 02:01:07,720 --> 02:01:11,000 Speaker 1: ball out in space, i mean, he's got such control 2444 02:01:11,160 --> 02:01:14,000 Speaker 1: over his body and where he's going it looks like 2445 02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:18,040 Speaker 1: he just glides and he doesn't even he's contact balance too. 2446 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's something that Fred Jackson was really good with. 2447 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:25,640 Speaker 1: But you combine that with a lack of size, speed, maneuverability. 2448 02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy literally has it all. And that's him, 2449 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,400 Speaker 1: combined with Mark Ingram is why Peyton did what he 2450 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:34,560 Speaker 1: did to kind of take the pressure off of Drew 2451 02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Brees and say, this is what we are now, and 2452 02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:39,640 Speaker 1: that's what great coaches do. Bill Belichat has done it, 2453 02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,120 Speaker 1: has done it year in year out for the all 2454 02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:45,800 Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen, eighteen, nineteen years he's been in New England, 2455 02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, and now with his team. Last year's really 2456 02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:51,120 Speaker 1: the first time we've seen it tangibly take shape on 2457 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:53,240 Speaker 1: the field where they did something completely different than what 2458 02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:55,400 Speaker 1: they had done in the Remember the three years ago 2459 02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,240 Speaker 1: their defense was laughing stock. Not so much anymore. I'd 2460 02:01:58,280 --> 02:02:01,560 Speaker 1: even say two years right. And then at number three 2461 02:02:01,640 --> 02:02:06,400 Speaker 1: on on our guest Elliot Harrison's on his U stacking 2462 02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:09,200 Speaker 1: of the thirty two ranking of thirty two NFL head coaches, 2463 02:02:09,200 --> 02:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is number three. Uh, Mike Tomlin is number four. 2464 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:16,520 Speaker 1: See I do two Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh people don't are down 2465 02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:20,120 Speaker 1: on him, which I think it's it's familiarity breeds contempt. 2466 02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,320 Speaker 1: But I've watched this team a lot, and I've watched 2467 02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,480 Speaker 1: him in a lot of big games. I've been on 2468 02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the sidelines for a lot of big games. The one 2469 02:02:27,680 --> 02:02:31,280 Speaker 1: thing that Mike Tomlin does better than any head coach 2470 02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:37,280 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, the Pittsburgh Steelers show up highly motivated 2471 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:41,880 Speaker 1: every week. There is a they are a no nonsense team. 2472 02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Now they do a lot of stuff where they jump 2473 02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,520 Speaker 1: and they celebrate, and they have a lot of fun 2474 02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:47,760 Speaker 1: on the field, and they do all a lot of 2475 02:02:47,840 --> 02:02:50,960 Speaker 1: extracurricular stuff. But I'll tell you what, Mike Tomlin runs 2476 02:02:51,080 --> 02:02:53,640 Speaker 1: the show and they listen to what he says and 2477 02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:55,400 Speaker 1: it has been that way since day one, and they 2478 02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:57,480 Speaker 1: won a couple of Super Bowls with him. So every 2479 02:02:57,520 --> 02:02:59,400 Speaker 1: coach has their own style, but you do need a 2480 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:02,600 Speaker 1: certain set sense of that respect or you need the 2481 02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:06,200 Speaker 1: sense of accountability to that head coach, because if that 2482 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,120 Speaker 1: does not exist, then best of luck, Mike, You're not 2483 02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:13,200 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Mike Tomlin breeds respect. And number five running 2484 02:03:13,200 --> 02:03:16,400 Speaker 1: out the top five of Elliot Harrison's NFL rankings of 2485 02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,800 Speaker 1: the NFL head coaches is John Harbaugh the Ravens And 2486 02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,720 Speaker 1: you think back, John Harbaugh went from a special teams 2487 02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,520 Speaker 1: coordinator to the head coaching job and he's been there 2488 02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,800 Speaker 1: for a long time. He's a good he's a good 2489 02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:30,960 Speaker 1: manager of the entire unit. The one I gotta disagree 2490 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:33,640 Speaker 1: with though, John Gruten at nine, I just agree. I 2491 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,600 Speaker 1: agree to. I just, I just. I mean, the guy 2492 02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,200 Speaker 1: has not been in the league and it seems like it. 2493 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:41,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't coached a game yet. But that's just. 2494 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:43,480 Speaker 1: He had an eleven year run as a head coach 2495 02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL and then it, you know, somehow that 2496 02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:48,560 Speaker 1: and a decade of not being in the NFL, right, 2497 02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:51,120 Speaker 1: and the last few years of his run as a 2498 02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:53,800 Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL wasn't all that good. In 2499 02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:57,120 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, he stepped over, took over somebody else's team 2500 02:03:57,160 --> 02:04:02,160 Speaker 1: and Tony Dungee's team, and and won a Super Bowl 2501 02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:05,000 Speaker 1: with it. But I'll tell you what, he didn't do 2502 02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,280 Speaker 1: too much after that. He was a good coach in 2503 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:10,480 Speaker 1: the early two thousands. It is now twenty eighteen. Yeah, 2504 02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:14,320 Speaker 1: I just That's where I think maybe I would do 2505 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:16,720 Speaker 1: this a little bit differently, where I wouldn't put as 2506 02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:20,040 Speaker 1: much emphasis on what has happened in the past. I 2507 02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,840 Speaker 1: would still keep it in mind, but you're discounting a 2508 02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:25,240 Speaker 1: year where he didn't coach anybody or I mean I 2509 02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:27,800 Speaker 1: mean a decade when he didn't coach anybody, right, Does 2510 02:04:27,880 --> 02:04:30,920 Speaker 1: that not count again to account for him somehow or can't? 2511 02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:34,400 Speaker 1: That's not a life is not a pause button, you know, 2512 02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:36,680 Speaker 1: you can't time. You would like it to be, wouldn't 2513 02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:39,440 Speaker 1: we all? But it's not. Ten years are gone by 2514 02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:43,000 Speaker 1: and for him to step back in, I mean all 2515 02:04:43,000 --> 02:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the guys he coached with, I mean they're a decade 2516 02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:47,200 Speaker 1: deeper into their careers. I mean, he doesn't know the 2517 02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:50,040 Speaker 1: net have the networking, and it seems like he's going 2518 02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:53,440 Speaker 1: through it with a really old school approach. And not 2519 02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,960 Speaker 1: to mention this, I mean he has not coached in 2520 02:04:56,040 --> 02:05:01,440 Speaker 1: that amount of time and the way lays are, their 2521 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:04,480 Speaker 1: personalities are are different than what it used to be 2522 02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:06,360 Speaker 1: when he when he was coaching. It's you have to 2523 02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:08,800 Speaker 1: connect with them in a different way than than what 2524 02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,640 Speaker 1: once was, even in the early aughts. So I think 2525 02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:15,080 Speaker 1: I think Gruden's got a pretty interesting assignment ahead of him. 2526 02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:18,000 Speaker 1: I think so. And he's getting paid well to do it. Yeah. 2527 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Elliot Harrison Coaching Coach Power Rankings, How high is our guy? 2528 02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:27,680 Speaker 1: He was number nineteen, Sean McDermot number nineteen on these 2529 02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:30,240 Speaker 1: rankings and and I you know, you can say what 2530 02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:33,800 Speaker 1: you want. Um, I'm still feeling pretty good about the 2531 02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:37,840 Speaker 1: direction the Buffalo Bills are headed and despite what other 2532 02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,280 Speaker 1: teams are sitting at. And we called him out on that. 2533 02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:42,200 Speaker 1: He also had an all Under twenty five team in 2534 02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:45,240 Speaker 1: which Tredavious White didn't make the cornerback spot but Jayden 2535 02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:48,440 Speaker 1: Ramsey and Marshawn Lattimore did. Ah, you have kind of 2536 02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:51,320 Speaker 1: shrug your shrug your shoulders and say, okay, I get that, 2537 02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:53,240 Speaker 1: because those are two pretty good players as well. But 2538 02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, uh, Tredavious Wright was pro White was probably 2539 02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:59,680 Speaker 1: in this conversation, Yeah, he definitely was. But you know, 2540 02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:02,480 Speaker 1: More had the better season, at least in my mind. Yeah, exactly. 2541 02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,520 Speaker 1: All right, One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This 2542 02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:06,760 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll be right back after this. 2543 02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chief Tasker Joe Biskaliev 2544 02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:30,680 Speaker 1: broadcasting from One Bill's Drive. New air field of Jim 2545 02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:32,880 Speaker 1: Kelly Camps. Still going on. Kids out there in the 2546 02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:37,000 Speaker 1: sunshine and fun shine. We're about here. We're here about 2547 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:40,800 Speaker 1: to begin with NFL true false. Okay, we got three 2548 02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:43,400 Speaker 1: NFL true falls is Joe. When we go down the list, 2549 02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and these are interesting to me because one of them 2550 02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:51,720 Speaker 1: is from David Carr, who quantified the quarterbacks. This is 2551 02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,520 Speaker 1: NFL true false, brought to you by Yancey's Fancies, New 2552 02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:58,680 Speaker 1: York's Artists and Cheese. Okay, here we go, NFL true false. 2553 02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Number one. David Carr is way off in his top 2554 02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:07,600 Speaker 1: ten quarterbacks. And this interesting because his top ten begin 2555 02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,880 Speaker 1: of course, it's Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and 2556 02:07:11,960 --> 02:07:15,840 Speaker 1: then Derek Carr, the brother of the author, sneaks in 2557 02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:19,960 Speaker 1: at number four, right ahead of Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, 2558 02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,880 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, mad Ryan cam Newton, and ten Jimmy Garoppolo 2559 02:07:25,320 --> 02:07:28,280 Speaker 1: as a top ten quarterback. Yeah, I'm gonna say he 2560 02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:31,040 Speaker 1: that is true. He I don't know in what world 2561 02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:34,040 Speaker 1: he can put Russell Wilson behind Derek Carr. I mean, 2562 02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,400 Speaker 1: did we not watch Russell Wilson last year? His offensive 2563 02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:41,800 Speaker 1: line was atrocious and they were continuing to make plays. 2564 02:07:42,040 --> 02:07:44,680 Speaker 1: The defense did not play well last year for Seattle, 2565 02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,880 Speaker 1: and he was continuing to keep them in games, even 2566 02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:51,120 Speaker 1: at the most ridiculous of times. I mean, he almost 2567 02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:55,640 Speaker 1: willed them into the playoffs by himself. They didn't have 2568 02:07:55,680 --> 02:07:58,160 Speaker 1: a running game last year and he still did it. 2569 02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:03,400 Speaker 1: And how is Ll Wilson ever ranked behind Derek Carr. 2570 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:07,120 Speaker 1: How is Russell Wilson ranked behind Drew Brees after what 2571 02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:11,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did last year? Drew Brees was a quarterback 2572 02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:15,960 Speaker 1: of a run first team last season. I don't see it. Uh. 2573 02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:18,760 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, in my opinion, should not even be on 2574 02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the top ten. That's that's pretty good that you feel 2575 02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:25,880 Speaker 1: about the other endemy, Jimmy Garoppolo. See, I think it 2576 02:08:25,960 --> 02:08:27,720 Speaker 1: might be a little bit too soon for Jimmy. I 2577 02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,400 Speaker 1: mean he doesn't have Ben Roethlisberger on the list. Ben 2578 02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,120 Speaker 1: is still a great quarterback. He has a disclaimer at 2579 02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,120 Speaker 1: the bottom. He says, you know, he's future Hall of Famer, 2580 02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:38,320 Speaker 1: but there's you know, there's doubt. There's no doubt he 2581 02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,240 Speaker 1: can still help him. But he doesn't believe he's the 2582 02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,120 Speaker 1: most he's got. But he gives credit to the guys 2583 02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,680 Speaker 1: around him. Levon Bell, Antonio Brown. All that's fine, Juju 2584 02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster. He thinks Big Ben's getting too much help 2585 02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:55,960 Speaker 1: in other places. Uh. And to your point about Russell Wilson, 2586 02:08:56,080 --> 02:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Russell had no help last year and almost got that 2587 02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:01,360 Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. I I don't mind Drew Brees 2588 02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:04,080 Speaker 1: being ahead of Russell Wilson. Derek Carr is the one 2589 02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:08,520 Speaker 1: that stands out because he's the He's yeah, he's David 2590 02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Carr's brother, and David Carr wrote the year. Matt Stafford, 2591 02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan, I get it, Cam Newton nine, 2592 02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I'll tell you what number ten. Jimmy Garoppolo, No, 2593 02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:21,040 Speaker 1: I Ben Roethlisberger's gotta be in there. Yep. I think 2594 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:22,960 Speaker 1: no doubt about. I think Carson Wentz needs to be 2595 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,600 Speaker 1: in there. Carson Wentz should be in there. In my mind, 2596 02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:28,000 Speaker 1: he should be last year. He should have been ahead 2597 02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:31,400 Speaker 1: of Cam Newton, should have been ahead of Matt Ryan 2598 02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,840 Speaker 1: last year, Matt Stafford last year. I mean, I think 2599 02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:36,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. I mean, how does he not in there? 2600 02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:40,160 Speaker 1: So Carlo Golf, all these young guys. I know it's 2601 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:43,760 Speaker 1: just one season, but hey, I put Roethlisberger and Wentz in, 2602 02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Carr and Garoppolo out, That's what I would do. So 2603 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say false for that. I am agreeing one 2604 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:52,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent with you, although not quite with the passion 2605 02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:57,240 Speaker 1: that you you did. I am also a passion all right, 2606 02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,160 Speaker 1: true false. Number two new helmet rule will leave to 2607 02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:04,640 Speaker 1: elimination of the three point stance. New helmet rule and 2608 02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:06,840 Speaker 1: what it means is offensive linemen are going to stand 2609 02:10:06,880 --> 02:10:08,080 Speaker 1: up in a two point with their hands on their 2610 02:10:08,160 --> 02:10:11,400 Speaker 1: knees or elbows on their knees, because if they fire 2611 02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:14,160 Speaker 1: out and align their spine with their helmet and knock 2612 02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:16,440 Speaker 1: somebody over or take on a block or do something 2613 02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:19,040 Speaker 1: like that, they're thinking they could be a penalty given 2614 02:10:19,080 --> 02:10:21,200 Speaker 1: the strict rules that are in place now. It's not 2615 02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:24,120 Speaker 1: that I don't think that's the case just yet. There's 2616 02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:27,360 Speaker 1: no doubt the NFL is evolving and they're moving away 2617 02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:34,240 Speaker 1: with the devastating hits. Although you know it's still tackle football, 2618 02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:36,480 Speaker 1: so there's going to be some collisions. But I think 2619 02:10:36,520 --> 02:10:38,640 Speaker 1: the posture with the players have when they make those 2620 02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:40,920 Speaker 1: collisions is going to have to change, and I don't 2621 02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 1: think at least not at this point. Maybe down the 2622 02:10:43,880 --> 02:10:45,720 Speaker 1: line they'll do that, but now I don't think that 2623 02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:47,560 Speaker 1: three points stands will ever go away from. Yeah, I 2624 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,480 Speaker 1: agree with you, I think it's I think it's false 2625 02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:52,680 Speaker 1: as well, because quite frankly, I don't think they would 2626 02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,200 Speaker 1: call it at the line of scrimmage between the offensive 2627 02:10:55,240 --> 02:10:57,080 Speaker 1: line and the defensive line unless they make it a 2628 02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:00,960 Speaker 1: really more strict call than than what they had just 2629 02:11:01,080 --> 02:11:04,200 Speaker 1: decided on it being. We don't even know if they're 2630 02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:07,760 Speaker 1: going to enforce the rule of an offensive player lowering 2631 02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:11,680 Speaker 1: their head with the ball to a defensive player. That's 2632 02:11:11,720 --> 02:11:14,400 Speaker 1: something we have to figure out if the officials are 2633 02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:17,240 Speaker 1: actually going to do all that. So until that ever 2634 02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,760 Speaker 1: becomes a part of the equation, I don't think the 2635 02:11:20,520 --> 02:11:22,840 Speaker 1: play at the line of scrimmage is ever going to 2636 02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:25,120 Speaker 1: come into questions. So I think I think the three 2637 02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:27,760 Speaker 1: point stance is here for the time being unless they 2638 02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,280 Speaker 1: make the rule more straight. Yeah, and this and the 2639 02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,760 Speaker 1: way we put a new helmet rule will lead to elimination, 2640 02:11:32,840 --> 02:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't think it would. This not this rule. You 2641 02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:37,040 Speaker 1: may get new rules to do that, but this rule 2642 02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:39,160 Speaker 1: is they're gonna be fine. They're not gonna And there's 2643 02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:41,880 Speaker 1: some offensive lineman left tackles, right tackles they don't get 2644 02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,080 Speaker 1: in the three point stance and passing downs now anyway, 2645 02:11:44,240 --> 02:11:46,960 Speaker 1: So there's no question that there's a you could you know, 2646 02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:49,760 Speaker 1: you could conjure up a scenario where there's not going 2647 02:11:49,800 --> 02:11:51,640 Speaker 1: to be any more three point stance, but we are 2648 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,400 Speaker 1: not at that point yet. NFL true false number three. 2649 02:11:54,520 --> 02:11:58,200 Speaker 1: This from Jalen Ramsey, the cornerback for the Jacksonville Jaguars. 2650 02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:01,720 Speaker 1: Also on Elliot Harrison's all under twenty five corner but 2651 02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:03,840 Speaker 1: maybe one of the best right now. He's probably the 2652 02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,040 Speaker 1: cornerback in the league that you don't want to go against. 2653 02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:13,600 Speaker 1: His statement, Jimmy Garoppolo is overrated. Love Ramsay. Yeah, I 2654 02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:16,000 Speaker 1: love that dude. I mean, I mean, he's out with it, 2655 02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:18,880 Speaker 1: isn't he He's just the best. He does not care. 2656 02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:23,120 Speaker 1: He's a little um, he's a little snarky. I mean, 2657 02:12:23,200 --> 02:12:26,680 Speaker 1: he just he just does not He's gonna back up 2658 02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:28,880 Speaker 1: his game with his words, and he does not make 2659 02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:32,480 Speaker 1: any bones about it. I'm with him. I think Jimmy 2660 02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is currently overrated because Garoppolo, while he has shown 2661 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:42,440 Speaker 1: really well in the games that he's played, it's still 2662 02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:45,040 Speaker 1: a very small sample size. I want to see what 2663 02:12:45,200 --> 02:12:47,560 Speaker 1: happens when teams start to figure you out. You see 2664 02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:50,280 Speaker 1: this a lot with rookie quarterbacks. I mean I go 2665 02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:53,600 Speaker 1: back to like Vince Young when when he first got 2666 02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:56,600 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, he was on fire, and 2667 02:12:56,720 --> 02:13:00,280 Speaker 1: then teams start to devise defenses to go against him. 2668 02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,080 Speaker 1: He started trying to make him throw it right, and 2669 02:13:02,760 --> 02:13:06,040 Speaker 1: they took away the easy stuff that he was taking originally, 2670 02:13:06,400 --> 02:13:09,640 Speaker 1: and then he became, you know, a bust. So I 2671 02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:12,440 Speaker 1: think with Garoppolo, after only having as many games as 2672 02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:14,600 Speaker 1: he did, I think I think there still needs to 2673 02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:17,400 Speaker 1: be a little bit of the CounterPunch argument here. He 2674 02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:19,560 Speaker 1: needs to prove that he can he has that CounterPunch. 2675 02:13:19,640 --> 02:13:22,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting too, because our guy Jalen Ramsey who said 2676 02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,520 Speaker 1: that Jimmy Garoppolo is under underrated. Here's what he said. 2677 02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:27,880 Speaker 1: He's Jaguar star Jalen Ramsey, whose team was soundly beaten 2678 02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:31,320 Speaker 1: by Garoppolo and the forty nine ers last year. Uh 2679 02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:34,520 Speaker 1: scoffed at Garoppolo's ranking in the NFL now where he's 2680 02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:37,520 Speaker 1: the ninetieth best player, and Ramsey said, he's not yet. 2681 02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Not yet. Was he playing five games. He has good potential. 2682 02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:43,640 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a good player. But if my 2683 02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:45,760 Speaker 1: off my experience playing him, it was a lot of 2684 02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:48,960 Speaker 1: scheme stuff. It wasn't like he was just dicing us up. 2685 02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:50,760 Speaker 1: It was a lot of scheme stuff. So Ramsey gives 2686 02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,800 Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan a lot of credit for having some stuff 2687 02:13:53,840 --> 02:13:56,560 Speaker 1: in the game plan that really gave Jacksonville problems. He 2688 02:13:56,600 --> 02:14:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't credit Garoppolo or his amazing abilities as being the 2689 02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:03,960 Speaker 1: guy that beat the Jacksonville Jaguars last year late in 2690 02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the season. He thought it was more Kyle Shanahan and 2691 02:14:07,200 --> 02:14:10,040 Speaker 1: schemes and stuff like that. Kyle is great schematically, yeah, 2692 02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,480 Speaker 1: he is. He is very sharp from that perspective, and 2693 02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:15,920 Speaker 1: that's always been a strength of his and I think 2694 02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:18,480 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see him do that a lot, 2695 02:14:19,760 --> 02:14:23,200 Speaker 1: even more so this year. But they're going to teams 2696 02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:26,400 Speaker 1: are eventually going to figure something out to where Garoppolo 2697 02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:28,760 Speaker 1: has to push them over the edge as the quarterback 2698 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,520 Speaker 1: of the team. So for us our three NFL true false, 2699 02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:33,640 Speaker 1: David Carr was way off in his top ten quarterbacks. 2700 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:35,720 Speaker 1: We believe that is true. He was way off. Derek 2701 02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:37,920 Speaker 1: Card does not deserved be number four in that group. 2702 02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:40,880 Speaker 1: And the new helmet rule will eliminate the three point 2703 02:14:41,000 --> 02:14:43,920 Speaker 1: stance in the NFL. Not yet, We're both down on that. 2704 02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:46,400 Speaker 1: And also Jalen Rams Jimmy Roppolo is overrated. I don't 2705 02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,160 Speaker 1: know if he's overrated. I think he probably is. I 2706 02:14:48,320 --> 02:14:52,120 Speaker 1: know he's overpaid. So the NFL true false, Yeah, brought 2707 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,440 Speaker 1: to you by Yancey's, Fancy New York's artists and cheese. 2708 02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,040 Speaker 1: You know, that's all the stuff that we've been talking 2709 02:14:57,080 --> 02:14:58,920 Speaker 1: about today. We've been all over the map a little bit. 2710 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,040 Speaker 1: I can't I it's always fun and I don't want 2711 02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:06,560 Speaker 1: to say I'm I'm reveling in guys who all of 2712 02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:10,400 Speaker 1: a sudden or the flavor of the month, and they 2713 02:15:10,960 --> 02:15:13,200 Speaker 1: turn into a bad taste in your mouth. You know. 2714 02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,680 Speaker 1: So I I'm kind of like to see that because 2715 02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:19,040 Speaker 1: because I like to see guys have to earn it. 2716 02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't like to see a guy parachute in like 2717 02:15:21,360 --> 02:15:23,360 Speaker 1: a Jimmy Garoppolo. He sating around. And they did do 2718 02:15:23,440 --> 02:15:25,240 Speaker 1: the right thing. I'll give I tip my head to 2719 02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon. Jimmy Garoppolo was there and they didn't play 2720 02:15:28,680 --> 02:15:31,200 Speaker 1: him for a month. Yeah they didn't. They let him 2721 02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,320 Speaker 1: sit there and learn watch and then as soon as 2722 02:15:33,360 --> 02:15:35,560 Speaker 1: he got in they went. Remember they went five and 2723 02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:38,080 Speaker 1: ode to end the season. Yep, they did. That was 2724 02:15:38,360 --> 02:15:41,920 Speaker 1: that was an incredibly bright thing for Kyle Shannon. It 2725 02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:45,800 Speaker 1: was and it wasn't even just games that were you know, 2726 02:15:46,120 --> 02:15:48,640 Speaker 1: low scoring, run attack sort of thing like that. Like 2727 02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Garoppolo did his job in those games, which is why 2728 02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:56,480 Speaker 1: it is he has definitely potential to become as lofty 2729 02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:59,440 Speaker 1: as some people are rating him right now. But again, 2730 02:15:59,560 --> 02:16:03,120 Speaker 1: I just I just can't see it right now to 2731 02:16:03,240 --> 02:16:05,880 Speaker 1: where you jump on it and say, Yep, he's great. 2732 02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:09,320 Speaker 1: It's just he had those what two or three games 2733 02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:12,600 Speaker 1: in New England, he had those five games with San Francisco. 2734 02:16:12,920 --> 02:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens when teams actually scheme for him 2735 02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:18,040 Speaker 1: and they know what's coming, yeah, and how he reacts 2736 02:16:18,080 --> 02:16:20,280 Speaker 1: to that. And now it becomes a part. Part of 2737 02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,640 Speaker 1: it becomes Listen, they got to build a roster around him. 2738 02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:25,880 Speaker 1: He can't you know, he's not gonna win games with 2739 02:16:26,000 --> 02:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the roster that lost all those games to begin with. 2740 02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:30,960 Speaker 1: And even though they started to get it together, and 2741 02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I remember hearing the stuff Bill Belichick said about Garoppolo 2742 02:16:35,080 --> 02:16:37,960 Speaker 1: when they got him. He told the San Francisco coaching staff, 2743 02:16:37,959 --> 02:16:40,000 Speaker 1: he goes, guys, you're gonna love him. The guys are 2744 02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:42,360 Speaker 1: gonna rally around him, They're gonna be he kind of 2745 02:16:42,360 --> 02:16:45,080 Speaker 1: gave him like the kind of Baker Mayfield, and he said, listen, 2746 02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:46,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna love him. The guys love him. He's a 2747 02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:49,000 Speaker 1: great leader, he's all about it. He's a team guy, 2748 02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:54,600 Speaker 1: us first, not me first. That's you know. And Belichick 2749 02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:57,320 Speaker 1: said it because as we've heard, and you've heard rumblings 2750 02:16:57,360 --> 02:17:01,400 Speaker 1: from a bunch of different sources, Bill Belichick was ready 2751 02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:03,880 Speaker 1: to use Garoppolo and start him for the New England 2752 02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Patriots instead of Tom Brady. And now, just so he 2753 02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:09,080 Speaker 1: knew the kind of guy he was. And when you 2754 02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:11,640 Speaker 1: get that kind of endorsement, and I'll tell you I 2755 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:15,600 Speaker 1: heard the same same rumblings when Tom Brady took over 2756 02:17:15,640 --> 02:17:17,480 Speaker 1: for Drew Bledsoe in New England. I had people in 2757 02:17:17,560 --> 02:17:21,879 Speaker 1: the media who covered those guys saying, Brady likes him better. 2758 02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:24,959 Speaker 1: You know, I mean not Brady. Belichick likes Brady better 2759 02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:26,840 Speaker 1: than he likes Bledsoe. And I was just that that 2760 02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:30,800 Speaker 1: was two days after bledso signed one hundred and ten 2761 02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:35,599 Speaker 1: million dollar deal he got hurt. I mean, it was unbelievable. 2762 02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:38,360 Speaker 1: All that stuff that came out from New England last 2763 02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:41,800 Speaker 1: year was fascinating. So so when so when Belichick says, hey, 2764 02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:44,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna love Garoppolo. He's gonna be good. Hey, you 2765 02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:45,360 Speaker 1: know there's a lot to be said for that. We 2766 02:17:45,440 --> 02:17:47,640 Speaker 1: may be seeing Jimmy Garoppolo for the next seventeen years, 2767 02:17:47,680 --> 02:17:49,640 Speaker 1: going to seven Super Bowls and winning five of them, 2768 02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:54,439 Speaker 1: if that happens. I mean, Belichick is the quarterback whisperer 2769 02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,760 Speaker 1: of the entire the best one of those of the 2770 02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:01,160 Speaker 1: entire NFL's span of time. I don't know if that's 2771 02:18:01,160 --> 02:18:02,720 Speaker 1: really gonna happen. All Right, We're gonna come back and 2772 02:18:02,800 --> 02:18:05,560 Speaker 1: wrap this up One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive 2773 02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:25,800 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Stay with us. What do we 2774 02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,920 Speaker 1: learned today? Presented by Advanced Alarms providing Western New York's 2775 02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:31,440 Speaker 1: homes and businesses with the finest and security and home 2776 02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:34,360 Speaker 1: theater and the preferred alarm and home theater provider of 2777 02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:37,440 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We had Ross Tucker of NFL Serious, 2778 02:18:37,640 --> 02:18:40,600 Speaker 1: NFL Radio Serious Xame, NFL Radio One, and he let 2779 02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:47,280 Speaker 1: us know what his first preseason game was like. So 2780 02:18:47,480 --> 02:18:49,920 Speaker 1: we go out and I and I'm battling my butt 2781 02:18:50,000 --> 02:18:52,160 Speaker 1: off the rest of the game, and then like in 2782 02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarter, I hit this guy and 2783 02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:58,840 Speaker 1: he does this like come fu shot to my hand 2784 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:02,000 Speaker 1: and my hand killing me and I stay to the 2785 02:19:02,080 --> 02:19:04,640 Speaker 1: left guard next to me from Michigan. I said, I 2786 02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:07,040 Speaker 1: think I dislocated my finger. What do you do? He's like, 2787 02:19:07,160 --> 02:19:09,480 Speaker 1: pop it back in? So I try to pop it 2788 02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:13,200 Speaker 1: back in and all I hear and feel is crunching. 2789 02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,400 Speaker 1: So then do I do two more plays with just 2790 02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:19,840 Speaker 1: my right hand? I'm holding my left hand back. I 2791 02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:24,080 Speaker 1: come off the field, I take off my glove and 2792 02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,520 Speaker 1: my fourth meta card for or whatever is sticking out 2793 02:19:28,560 --> 02:19:32,240 Speaker 1: of my skin. I broke my hand and tried to 2794 02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:37,520 Speaker 1: pop it back in. Some of the some of the 2795 02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:40,240 Speaker 1: fun stories we've had shared with us today one from 2796 02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Ross Tucker, who was actually this first preseason game and 2797 02:19:43,720 --> 02:19:45,880 Speaker 1: I ended up having happened to him what happened. We 2798 02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:48,480 Speaker 1: also got a lot of calls from from people around 2799 02:19:48,520 --> 02:19:51,840 Speaker 1: the area about what their favorite training camp memories were. Joe, 2800 02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:54,200 Speaker 1: you had a couple of stories. I had shared some 2801 02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:56,039 Speaker 1: of mine. We've got one I'll tell you well. We'll 2802 02:19:56,040 --> 02:20:00,680 Speaker 1: take one last call from Dave in Tonawanda about a 2803 02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:03,200 Speaker 1: preseason member Da've been hanging on for a long time. Dave, 2804 02:20:03,280 --> 02:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. You're on One Bill's Live with 2805 02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Joe and Steve, what's on your mind? Thanks guys, great show. 2806 02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:13,440 Speaker 1: This my story is not a training camp story per se, 2807 02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:15,800 Speaker 1: but it goes back to many years ago when I 2808 02:20:16,400 --> 02:20:19,400 Speaker 1: went to a Bills Dolphins game and somehow my friends 2809 02:20:19,440 --> 02:20:23,560 Speaker 1: and I scored tickets right behind the Miami bench in 2810 02:20:23,640 --> 02:20:29,920 Speaker 1: the first row, And well, did we did that happen 2811 02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,800 Speaker 1: to just sub is going on with the phone and 2812 02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,560 Speaker 1: it ain't me. I mean the people on MSGRE watching us, 2813 02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:37,640 Speaker 1: and you know I'm not touching any buttons, I promise 2814 02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:40,160 Speaker 1: you unless you have a third hand that's just creeping 2815 02:20:40,240 --> 02:20:41,880 Speaker 1: up on the other side of the desk there. I 2816 02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,320 Speaker 1: hate that. Listen, I gotta tell you so. Our guy 2817 02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:46,680 Speaker 1: just he held on. He was on hold for like 2818 02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:49,440 Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes, all the way through Elliot Harrison and 2819 02:20:49,520 --> 02:20:52,720 Speaker 1: the whole half hour Eddie as soon as he starts starting. 2820 02:20:52,720 --> 02:20:54,480 Speaker 1: It happened to us once earlier in the show as well. 2821 02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:57,240 Speaker 1: Poor guy, it ain't me. I'm just going on record 2822 02:20:57,280 --> 02:20:58,800 Speaker 1: is saying it ain't me. I feel bad for him. 2823 02:20:58,840 --> 02:21:00,800 Speaker 1: But we had a great show because we had a 2824 02:21:00,879 --> 02:21:02,320 Speaker 1: lot of people call in and got a chance to 2825 02:21:02,360 --> 02:21:04,480 Speaker 1: listen to a lot of stories about their favorite training camp. 2826 02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:07,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stories and that training camps around the corner, 2827 02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:09,080 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a proposed this time of year, 2828 02:21:09,240 --> 02:21:11,560 Speaker 1: one month away, and it feels like it's still a 2829 02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:14,960 Speaker 1: long distance away, but man, it's right around the corner. 2830 02:21:15,080 --> 02:21:18,680 Speaker 1: And do you sleep over there? Sometimes? I do, And 2831 02:21:18,879 --> 02:21:21,280 Speaker 1: it just depends on when the when the schedule for 2832 02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:23,400 Speaker 1: the next day lies and what work I have to 2833 02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:25,760 Speaker 1: do that day. But it's I mean, there's a certain 2834 02:21:25,920 --> 02:21:28,680 Speaker 1: allure to it. I mean, I'm a tall dude, so 2835 02:21:28,959 --> 02:21:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm six foot five and those uh, 2836 02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:36,160 Speaker 1: those twin dorm room beds not exactly ideal for a 2837 02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:38,120 Speaker 1: guy like me, but haven't but you know, you just 2838 02:21:38,240 --> 02:21:41,760 Speaker 1: gotta They're fine for me. I could buy my clothes 2839 02:21:41,800 --> 02:21:44,040 Speaker 1: off the rack too, So I don't care. I got 2840 02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you complaining about being six 2841 02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:49,720 Speaker 1: five five. I'd still be playing at fifty six years old. 2842 02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Like Jerry Rice wants to all right, yeah, no, but 2843 02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:55,760 Speaker 1: training camp, Yeah, you're right, We've only got we're gonna have. 2844 02:21:56,240 --> 02:21:58,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna do one bills live from training camp next month. 2845 02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:00,959 Speaker 1: I think we've got like eight, maybe nine shows from 2846 02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:02,960 Speaker 1: training camp. Because of the way the schedule falls and 2847 02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:05,600 Speaker 1: because some of the games, some of the game practice 2848 02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:07,800 Speaker 1: are gonna be closed, and then we have some you know, 2849 02:22:07,840 --> 02:22:09,720 Speaker 1: a game will be the next day. We'll pay back 2850 02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:11,240 Speaker 1: and do the show. We'll do the show here on 2851 02:22:11,400 --> 02:22:13,720 Speaker 1: game day. It's gonna be a lot of fun. July 2852 02:22:13,879 --> 02:22:16,480 Speaker 1: and August as the game as it starts rolling through, 2853 02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:19,160 Speaker 1: and you know, the Hall of Fame game is just 2854 02:22:19,280 --> 02:22:22,560 Speaker 1: around the corner. I mean, oh my goodness, great. Yeah, 2855 02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:24,360 Speaker 1: these teams are going to start to report a training 2856 02:22:24,360 --> 02:22:26,000 Speaker 1: camp and that's when that's when it's gonna start to 2857 02:22:26,040 --> 02:22:31,120 Speaker 1: feel really real. But uh, you know, I man, football 2858 02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:34,800 Speaker 1: season is there. It's basically it's one more month. Here's 2859 02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:36,360 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We're gonna come back. You're gonna 2860 02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:38,920 Speaker 1: come back with me tomorrow. We'll do the show Friday. Well, 2861 02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:41,640 Speaker 1: let's everybody, here's what we're gonna do. Everybody take July 2862 02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:45,800 Speaker 1: fourth week off. We're all gonna say, you guys have 2863 02:22:45,879 --> 02:22:47,800 Speaker 1: to work. We're all taking us July four, the whole 2864 02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:49,880 Speaker 1: week on Monday through Friday, we're taking off. We'll go 2865 02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:53,360 Speaker 1: back here on the ninth, on July ninth, and we'll 2866 02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:55,680 Speaker 1: start in Murph. Will be back I'll be back. We'll 2867 02:22:55,720 --> 02:22:59,200 Speaker 1: get really prime, but July fourth it's a holiday, and 2868 02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:01,760 Speaker 1: then we'll we'll cruise through training camp. We'll get to 2869 02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:05,000 Speaker 1: labor Day or more labor day at the end of summer, 2870 02:23:05,959 --> 02:23:08,400 Speaker 1: and then we'll then baby, let's buckle up and go 2871 02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:11,120 Speaker 1: seven days a week. Then we'll go, Yeah, we're in. 2872 02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:13,920 Speaker 1: That's what that's what football season dictates. Anyway, all right, 2873 02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,600 Speaker 1: that's it for us today. We're gonna be back tomorrow. 2874 02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:18,280 Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live. Joe Biscalia, Steve Tasker like 2875 02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:22,279 Speaker 1: to thank our production assistants, George Blass, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Hollander, 2876 02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:27,960 Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, jj Teredo, Kevin Krgis, James Roebel, everybody was 2877 02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:29,880 Speaker 1: on board today. We're gonna be back tomorrow. Got a 2878 02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:31,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on tomorrow. I'd tease it, but 2879 02:23:32,280 --> 02:23:33,680 Speaker 1: right now, at the top of my head, I can't 2880 02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:37,320 Speaker 1: remember who Ah Dan Orlovsky's coming in tomorrow and uh 2881 02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Phil Fadel Savage is coming on. All those guys are 2882 02:23:40,280 --> 02:23:42,480 Speaker 1: coming on. It'll be fun. Joe's gonna come back and 2883 02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:44,600 Speaker 1: co host it with us, Stay with us. It's been 2884 02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:46,720 Speaker 1: a lot of fun today. This has been One Bill's 2885 02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:50,560 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's radios. Talk 2886 02:23:50,600 --> 02:24:09,279 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow, everybody. I have been bad. I'm gonna 2887 02:24:09,400 --> 02:24:14,480 Speaker 1: find it. I have found be imn have find