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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Let's hear it at the end

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Speaker 1: of the year for the Man the Myth Legend super

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Speaker 1: producer mister Max Williams.

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Speaker 2: Who a kind aggressive reminder.

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Speaker 3: I was going to make a negative comment, but then

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Speaker 3: I realized you weren't introducing our guests yet.

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Speaker 1: Not yet, not yet, and spoilers, that's Noel Brown, I

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Speaker 1: am often called ben Bullen Max before we roll into

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Speaker 1: this sure surely well thought out escapade that well, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced will go very well and stay on the rails.

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Speaker 1: Could you tell us a little bit about what Noel

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Speaker 1: just alluded to your subtitle on this recording A kind

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Speaker 1: aggressive reminder.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I just throw it, okay, because all right, you know

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Speaker 1: that's a weird energy though you.

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Speaker 3: Well, to be fair, that is sort of Max's energy

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Speaker 3: is he is both kind and gently aggressive. Because the

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Speaker 3: man gets things done, y'all, and we couldn't do it

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Speaker 3: without him. So I'd love to take this opportunity to

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Speaker 3: thank the Man the Myth the Legend in his own

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Speaker 3: mind and ours and the hearts of the public.

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Speaker 4: Mister Max Williams, I've always said Max, Max's mister Rogers.

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Speaker 4: If he'd mess you up, there we.

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Speaker 1: Go, And fellow ridiculous historians, we also want to thank

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Speaker 1: you personally for hanging out with us, not just through

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but through all the previous years. You guys,

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Speaker 1: we started the show back in twenty seventeen, and Noel,

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Speaker 1: you and I tell this story pretty often internally, but

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Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be just like six weeks.

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Speaker 3: In and out, in and out internally as in within ourselves.

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Speaker 5: Yes it's true. No, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a whole thing that was based on a

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Speaker 3: particular advertisements deal, and we just you know, said yes,

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Speaker 3: because that's what we did in those days.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and here we are all the loath these many

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Speaker 5: years later.

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Speaker 3: I'm as surprised as you are, Ben, and I'm happily surprised.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And speaking of the opposite of happily surprised, we

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Speaker 1: have a we have a chip on our collective shoulders.

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Speaker 1: We have a proverbial podcastery bone to pick. We are

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Speaker 1: reluctantly welcoming back one of the long running characters in

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Speaker 1: this show that we never thought would go till twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four and beyond. We started building this mythos out

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Speaker 1: early in the game, right, and one of the one

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Speaker 1: of the crazy things that happened on the way to

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Speaker 1: the podcast Studio no is we got ourselves a genuine nemesis,

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Speaker 1: a real pill, a real heel, the kind of guy

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Speaker 1: who gets unhappy when he sees puppies play.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that is harsh but fair.

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Speaker 4: I mean, hello, hello, quizter here, happy to see you.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a mythology so deep that we sold

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Speaker 4: a T shirt. We sold one did so one T

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Speaker 4: shirt and technically we sold five because I bought that many.

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Speaker 3: It's just sort of an on again, off again kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we've been off for so so long. I

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Speaker 4: alluded to this in our previous episode. If you've not

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Speaker 4: heard it, you should, because the boys came up against

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Speaker 4: one of my incredibly nefarious quizzes. I won't ruin how

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Speaker 4: it turned out, but I think you'll be able to

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Speaker 4: tell from their demeanor, so I would suggest listening to

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Speaker 4: that one first. But I did allude to the fact

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Speaker 4: that while I was on my journey of self discovery

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Speaker 4: where I was becoming a kind of gentless soul, someone

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Speaker 4: who could allow such a podcast as this to continue unmolested.

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Speaker 4: I happened to listen.

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Speaker 5: That was good of you.

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Speaker 1: I also don't molest us.

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Speaker 4: I happened to listen to an episode that molested my

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Speaker 4: sense of humor, and having been touched in the bad

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Speaker 4: place of my sense of humor, I then returned so

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Speaker 4: that I might wreak my revenge. And that episode was

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Speaker 4: about patents are bonkers?

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Speaker 1: Ah part of a continuing series, so prepared to get

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Speaker 3: They are, though right they are, to take issue with

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Speaker 3: this assessment. This is what I take issue with. It

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Speaker 3: is that it is the deepest of wounds, the deepest

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Speaker 3: of cuts you could have dealt to me. You had

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Speaker 3: an episode about the history of patents and how insane

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Speaker 3: it is, and you did not title it patently absurd.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh swinging a miss Yeah no, that's on me.

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Speaker 1: Max is a research associate for that for that one.

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Speaker 1: And I want to defend Max here because patently absurd

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Speaker 1: was right there, and you're absolutely correct, quister, I missed it.

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Speaker 5: I was looking at a spot.

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Speaker 2: Ben, Ben, you have no need to defend me.

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Speaker 6: You want to why, because I found the most ridiculous

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Speaker 6: thing when it comes to titling things is to give

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Speaker 6: it the most literal title possible, Jonathan. The number of

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Speaker 6: I mean quist apologies, the number of briefs that I

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Speaker 6: start as like this patterns they are a thing.

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Speaker 2: That is about ninety five percent of them start that way.

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Speaker 2: It's like Monaco.

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Speaker 3: It's a country, It's a process, is what it is.

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous at its core.

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Speaker 5: It just it just I respect them.

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Speaker 4: It struck me at the very heart of me, and

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Speaker 4: all that work I had done toward enlightenment was was

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Speaker 4: cast aside and I had to attashed away. Baby, to

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Speaker 4: challenge you to another series of quizzes, Boy, if series

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Speaker 4: we mean to listen. If the Atlanta Braves can call

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Speaker 4: two wins a streak, I can call two quizzes a series.

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Speaker 5: I think two makes a series. I mean one that

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Speaker 5: comes after the other. They are in series, not in parallel.

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Speaker 4: No, right, I guess you could listen to to one

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Speaker 5: That'd be trippy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I've been there. You get in situations. Also,

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Speaker 1: the smallest number of distinct items that can qualify as

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Speaker 1: So uh and we know that from our brain stuff

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're gonna be talking about stuff later. I

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Speaker 4: think I think we I think we are correct.

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Speaker 1: But first, sir, yes, your your ignominy, your attitude, your

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Speaker 1: disrespect shall not stand. Picture us with a lidden glove,

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Speaker 1: perhaps a leather glove, just gently slapping you on the face.

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Speaker 1: It's time for a duel of the wits.

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Speaker 5: Eh, once on each cheek.

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Speaker 4: Huh usually have to pay for this, all right?

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Speaker 5: So wait which cheek? Both of the ones on your face?

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Speaker 4: Essentially he was going for the Australia. Yeah, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 4: good old slap down under. All right, let's let's get

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Speaker 4: into the cringiest segment in all of podcasts, saying, some

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Speaker 4: of our friends out there know how this works. If

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Speaker 5: Cats, you apologize, We apologize.

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Speaker 4: I still don't know how most of you this is true.

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Speaker 4: Noel forgotten the last one. All right, So so this

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Speaker 4: is how how it works. I'm going to present three

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Speaker 4: scenarios to the boys. Max you are you are not

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Speaker 4: allowed by anticipate three scenarios scenarios. It is your job

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Speaker 4: to tell me which of the three I made up.

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Speaker 4: will know, not guess, you will know which of these

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Speaker 3: Can I just interject really quickly that on the first

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Speaker 3: episode when you said made up, I interjected really quickly

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I call them make them ups. Sometimes I just

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Speaker 4: call them fun times.

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Speaker 5: But yes, we go up.

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Speaker 1: you can give us these scenarios. We will have three minutes.

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Speaker 1: Because we paid way too much for this Grandfather.

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Speaker 5: Clock, we got to get the most out of it.

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Speaker 1: During those three minutes, we can ask you questions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we determine the answer, but you have a pretty arbitrary phrase.

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Speaker 4: Qualification yes, I've just to say, because of the deep

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Speaker 4: is passently absurd. Ah, yeah, and then follow it with

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Speaker 4: whatever question. All right, here we go Scenario number one.

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Speaker 4: The year was eighteen thirty six. All right, chuckleheads, listen up.

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Speaker 4: As we sit here, we are currently coming up on

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Speaker 4: the one hundred eighty eighth anniversary of Hold on a minute,

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Speaker 4: when does this episode come out?

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Speaker 1: This will be publishing on the nineteen all.

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Speaker 4: anniversary rather just passed. So we just missed it. As

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Speaker 4: we talk here in the past, it hasn't happened yet.

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Speaker 4: That's how time works, anyway. On December fifteenth, eighteen thirty six,

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Speaker 4: the United States Patent Office done caught fire and burnt down.

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Speaker 4: At the time, the office inhabited the Blodget Hotel in

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Speaker 4: very flammable. In fact, some were so flammable they were inflammable.

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Speaker 4: Of the ten thousand patents burned, around twenty eight hundred

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Speaker 4: were partially saved. Scenario number two. The year was eighteen

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Speaker 4: sixty four. Confederate forces led by Lieutenant General Jubile Air

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Speaker 4: order to defend the US capital. The Confederate troops won

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Speaker 4: an early skirmish around July ninth, eighteen sixty four, and

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Speaker 4: then they continued to advance on Washington, d C. This

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Speaker 4: the city of Washington, d C. For the Confederacy, but

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Speaker 4: ultimately he determined that it would include very heavy losses

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Speaker 4: and I put that in air quotes one thousand patent

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that was a that was an abrupt ending.

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Speaker 5: Get it boy, all right, on it?

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Speaker 1: Three?

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Speaker 4: That is patently absurd, yes, Bolin.

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Speaker 1: So we've got one. Just correct us here, We've got

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Speaker 4: Eighteen thirty six, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen thirty six. Scenario two occurs in summer eighteen sixty four. Yes,

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Speaker 1: All right, I know, I do, Noel, I do know

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Speaker 3: I know that I recognize the name, but I'm not

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Speaker 1: He was definitely a Confederate general, Okay, at some point,

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Speaker 4: Yes, eighteen sixty four, absolutely, twenty twenty four, not so much, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Spontaneously combusting? Should happen on this show all the time,

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Speaker 5: Wow, wow, you that one? You'll pay?

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Speaker 3: You'll pay for that one? He freezes, No, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I guess as I think of that part in Loss

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Speaker 5: But no, this is it's touchy.

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Speaker 5: Was just a possibility that the right is the second one,

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Speaker 4: The second one is Confederates, the first the first one

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Speaker 5: Just straight up fire.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I feel like number two is definitely true.

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Speaker 1: You guys, So now it's between that's.

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Speaker 3: That well, well, that that's not to though, put it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. Okay, that is patently absurd, mister, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're running short on time. Quist Is it possible that

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Speaker 5: H He's tangentially aware.

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Speaker 1: Also, our tier is up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I love the world of dwarf patents. Yes, yeah, fascinating, Yes, stop.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a trap. He crap up.

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Speaker 1: Max you got anything he caught?

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Speaker 4: He cannot he cannot, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: John, uh not Jonathan. The quister and I were talking beforehand.

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Speaker 3: We can't we can't phone a friend, Jonathan, okay, if.

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Speaker 5: Oh buddy, all right?

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Speaker 1: So uh, all right, it's between one and three? Uh no,

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Speaker 5: Three? I'll be through the one. No, but I'll row shambeau.

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Speaker 5: two one? Shoot? A meeting of the minds.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right ready h one two

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Speaker 4: Six fire that destroyed ten thousand patents and seven thousand

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Speaker 1: I was thinking it.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well done, Do you want to know what's

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Speaker 5: It was three, it was two. It was the one.

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Speaker 5: That he really did.

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Speaker 4: He really did lay siege to Washington, d C. But

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Speaker 1: But fre point of order. This is what I asked

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Speaker 1: you about. Dude, you did get all right? You got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to make something up that sounds realistic.

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Speaker 4: The point is that the whole Jewbil Early thing, like

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Speaker 5: We never claim to be experts. It's that's part of

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Speaker 4: Well, next time we're gonna give you your title a

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Speaker 5: All right, fair enough and well played?

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Speaker 4: Hey it can can quistor maybe go away for a

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's do that. So let's do it this way.

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Speaker 1: First off, I propose that we, if all parties are agreed,

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Speaker 1: we say that the Quist won twenty twenty four and

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Speaker 1: resentful adieu to the Quist. Just absolutely villain that guy.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna welcome our dear friend and brother in podcasting,

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Jonathan, welcome and thank thank god for you,

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Speaker 5: I hated that other guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, he sounds like a real piece of crap.

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Speaker 5: So what's been up, man? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Inquiry minds want to know? We have a lot of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so for those who have been listening to tech Stuff,

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Speaker 5: So I've been you know, hosted for what like twenty years.

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Speaker 4: in the tech world. Really, I mean I did not

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Speaker 4: just things in general, but like there's so much that

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Speaker 4: happened over the course of the last sixteen and a

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Speaker 4: half years, like the fact that social like social network apps,

443
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 4: grew to such incredible heights, to the point where like

444
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Speaker 4: that affected how we did our work right, like you did.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember this, Ben, but there

446
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Speaker 4: was a time, probably around two thousand and eight, two

447
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 4: thousand and nine, when I got a shout out at

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Speaker 4: our house Stuff Works office because I had started a

449
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Speaker 4: Twitter account and I was promoting tech stuff on my

450
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: Twitter account and people are like, this is brilliant, and

451
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Speaker 4: then everyone shot daggers with me with their eyes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I'll admit it. I threw a couple sidelong

453
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Speaker 1: glance is because I knew that you were establishing a precedent,

454
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Speaker 1: which did often in our early days. Folks. It was

455
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Speaker 1: kind of wild as podcasts became a thing, and as

456
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: we were collectively under a very different series of corporate iterations,

457
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: as we were boldly going into this realm, we didn't

458
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Speaker 1: know what would work and what would not work. And

459
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Speaker 1: the way I describe it, and all you've heard this too,

460
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: is for a little while working at our office at

461
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: How Stuff Works was a lot more like being on

462
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Speaker 1: a TV show about an office job than it was

463
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Speaker 1: like having an actual office job.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a cast of punchy character.

465
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Speaker 4: You could you could end up going into the break room,

466
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: which was the converted office space of our our former

467
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Speaker 4: head hon show, Jeff Arnold, and they had made it

468
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: out into this this almost like like dormitory. Yeah, there

469
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 4: was a common there and there was a foosball table. Now,

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Speaker 4: whenever I went in there, no editor or writer or

471
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Speaker 4: anyone from the video department ever was playing that thing.

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Speaker 5: It was always a trap.

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Speaker 4: It was always the folks from sales and marketing. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 4: we all we all treated that space like if you're

475
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Speaker 4: found there, someone's going to call you out for not

476
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Speaker 4: doing your work. Whereas most of us were just like

477
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Speaker 4: we were all blissfully unaware of the future and what

478
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Speaker 4: the future would hold for us because we lived in

479
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Speaker 4: a world where we actually had cubicles and then and

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Speaker 4: then we weren't. We weren't part of the open floor

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Speaker 4: plan design.

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Speaker 5: There was an area called the fish bowl. I seem

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Speaker 5: to that wasn't that it was that a discovery reference

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Speaker 5: or was it not the fact that it looked like reference?

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Speaker 1: It was because it had It was the old cfo's office.

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Speaker 1: I think we can say it now. It was the

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Speaker 1: old cfo's office. So the video department, which was you know,

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Speaker 1: a little less than a dozen people who were all

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Speaker 1: crammed into that office. That were we were all crammed

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Speaker 1: in that office, windows on three sides essentially, which is

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Speaker 1: why we called it the It wasn't our most creative work,

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Speaker 1: but it had a lot of heart to it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: This also, this office of fun Atlanta History fact, was

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Speaker 1: formerly the location of La Face Records. And uh, I'll

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Speaker 1: always remember right off of the dormitory that Noel and

497
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Speaker 1: Jonathan are describing here, Ralph, that common area there was

498
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Speaker 1: a very strange bathroom with a lot with a old

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Speaker 1: school telephode set right next to the commode.

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Speaker 4: And a full length mirror opposite the commode, so you

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Speaker 4: could watch yourself make the call as a.

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Speaker 5: Poop as you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny that that actually came up on an

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Speaker 3: episode we did about who is it who called his

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Speaker 3: little Australia big Johnson?

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Speaker 5: Oh it was a jumbo.

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Speaker 3: It was big Jumbo who Lindon Just sorry, Little Lyndon

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Speaker 3: Johnson was also fond of taking phone calls while on

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Speaker 3: the commode. Oh yeah, so I think this this story

510
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Speaker 3: came up.

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Speaker 5: In that episode. So you can check that one out.

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Speaker 4: If you want. So much crazy stuff has happened over

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Speaker 4: over the years. I mean, what I think is interesting, Ben,

514
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Speaker 4: is you think of the inhabitants of that fishbowl. Quite

515
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 4: a few of the are still with our our group,

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Speaker 4: like under iHeart like there's.

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Speaker 5: Tyler Tyler playing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our pal Casey Pegrim by the way, who sends

519
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: his regards folks. The original super producer of our show

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00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: which I forgot the name of for a second, ridiculous sister,

521
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: I totally like, what show am I hosting right now?

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Speaker 5: Jeez?

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Speaker 1: But we had we have had so many adventures and

524
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Speaker 1: the only way that we've been able to do this

525
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Speaker 1: is another fun fact, folks, are pal Noel Brown used

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Speaker 1: to produce every single podcast in the beginning. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he joined his Tech Stuff for a while and well

528
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Speaker 1: again every show, and thank you for that. I want

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Speaker 1: to argue the only reason we've been able to continue

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Speaker 1: this stuff is uh, not just because of our amazing

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Speaker 1: supporters and our friends, our audience members who tune in

532
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Speaker 1: every week, but also because of the people we work with.

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Speaker 1: And it can be very you know, we're in such

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Speaker 1: a house yon bubble sometimes and we don't recognize I

535
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: think as often as we should that you get by

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Speaker 1: with a little help from your friends. And oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's how we were able to do this very weird

538
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Speaker 1: career for so long.

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Speaker 4: So from from like two thousand and eight till twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 4: I had a co host who was also my editor

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Speaker 4: when I was writing articles for How Stuff Works, Chris Pollette,

542
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: fantastic guy. Can't say enough good things about him. Still

543
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: a fantastic guy. It's just not in the podcast world anymore.

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00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 4: Then after that Lauren Vogelbaum, who does brain Stuff and

545
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Speaker 4: Savor and other things. She was my co host for

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Speaker 4: about a year a little more than almost two years,

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Speaker 4: like through twenty thirteen and through most of twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 4: and then After that, there was a brief period where

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Speaker 4: I would scramble to find someone to be a guest

550
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Speaker 4: co host. Ben and Noel both have been guest co

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Speaker 4: hosts on Tech Stuff, and so those were really important.

552
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: Like I was not ready to go just entirely solo

553
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Speaker 4: at that point, and so without these amazing coworkers, I

554
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: don't know what would have happened to the show. It

555
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: probably would have just stopped right like it had just

556
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 4: gone into perpetual reruns. So I think one thing that

557
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: we're all really fortunate is that, you know, we have

558
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 4: coworkers who are willing and able to leap in and

559
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: help at a moment's notice, and everyone shares a sense

560
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 4: of curiosity and a desire to share what they've learned.

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Speaker 4: That that made it pretty easy to do, right, Even

562
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Speaker 4: Like if I came up to Ben and I was like, hey, buddy,

563
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Speaker 4: I'm doing like a three part series on the Manhattan Project.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you could sit in? And Ben would

565
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Speaker 4: be like, okay, how everything else he does and.

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Speaker 5: We did know.

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Speaker 3: I'm so grateful too, because I mean, like I mentioned,

568
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Speaker 3: there was a time where I was just editing all

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Speaker 3: of these shows as a producer, and during that time.

570
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Speaker 3: I kind of took so much information in just from

571
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Speaker 3: producing shows like tech stuff and car stuff when Ben

572
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: was on car stuff, and then of course in the

573
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Speaker 3: early days of stuff they don't want you to know,

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Speaker 3: and then I was kind of able to take what

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Speaker 3: I had sort of you know, retained through osmosis and

576
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Speaker 3: step into the same role that you guys have been

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Speaker 3: doing for so long.

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Speaker 5: So I'm really, really, really grateful for that.

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Speaker 3: And you were no small part of that, Jonathan, just

580
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Speaker 3: from you know, you being so generous in having me

581
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Speaker 3: on the show in the early days, and also just

582
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Speaker 3: from you know, being so knowledgeable and just paying attention

583
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Speaker 3: to what you were talking about.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Also people should know that Noel on more

585
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Speaker 4: than one occasion, would take errant mouth sounds from the

586
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Speaker 4: various episodes he edited and would make song tracks out

587
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Speaker 4: of them.

588
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Speaker 5: Wow, is s the song tracks, but you know I'd

589
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Speaker 5: made some beats.

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Speaker 3: And then of course Alex Williams is our dear friend

591
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Speaker 3: and brother of Max car On that tradition took it

592
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Speaker 3: to the kind of nth degree. So I appreciate you

593
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Speaker 3: calling that out, but Alex definitely took that and ran

594
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Speaker 3: with it.

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Speaker 4: Even I just remember the fund. I remember the origins

596
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Speaker 4: is all. So of course I also shouldn't bury the

597
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Speaker 4: lead here in that I'm not leaving iHeart right.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we got to that because folks need to know.

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Speaker 1: This is not some kind of swan song. If anything,

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Speaker 1: we're going to hopefully, I'm knocking on wood, We're gonna

601
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Speaker 1: hopefully see more of the quiztre in twenty twenty five

602
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Speaker 1: because our big bro might have a little more time

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Speaker 1: on air.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's my hope, is that I'm going to be

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Speaker 4: focusing more on the producer side of things. But that means,

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Speaker 4: you know, without having to identify research, right, and then

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Speaker 4: record three episodes a week.

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Speaker 5: So low solow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I never had a writer, I'll tell this

611
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Speaker 4: story that might end up getting cut. So if you're

612
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Speaker 4: hearing this, it's because no one cared enough to cut it.

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Speaker 4: But oh, come on, all right, do the bit once

614
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Speaker 4: a a time a few years back. This actually might

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Speaker 4: have even been before the pandemic. It had to be

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Speaker 4: after I was I think it was when they they

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Speaker 4: had decided that I was going to do five episodes

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Speaker 4: a week, and I was just by myself, and I

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Speaker 4: kept pushing back. I was like, even if I do

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Speaker 4: a rerun four episodes a week, it's still a lot,

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Speaker 4: because that's for every I'd say, for every hour of

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Speaker 4: audio you hear on some a show like tech Stuff,

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Speaker 4: they are about eight hours of research and writing that

624
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Speaker 4: go into it on average. Now, some are easier than others,

625
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Speaker 4: some are harder, and so I was pushing back and

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Speaker 4: one of the things that was mentioned to me was

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Speaker 4: the possibility of getting a researcher and writer to do

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Speaker 4: one episode a week for me and I would just

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Speaker 4: voice it. I wouldn't have to write it. And I said, well,

630
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Speaker 4: as long as it was written in my style so

631
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Speaker 4: that it didn't sound totally different from everything else I do,

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Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to it. So the Power that Be

633
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Speaker 4: went and talked to someone who was potentially going to

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Speaker 4: become the researcher and writer for one episode a week.

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Speaker 4: This person was put into touch with me. I talked

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Speaker 4: to the person about my process and how long it

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Speaker 4: took and everything. They got back to the Powers that

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Speaker 4: Be with a quote, and the Powers that Be came

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Speaker 4: to me and said, yeah, it turns out to be

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Speaker 4: way too expensive for us to be able to hire

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Speaker 4: someone to imagine that, and so my response was, you

642
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Speaker 4: realize what you're telling me is that you're not paying

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Speaker 4: me enough. That's what you're telling me, because I do

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Speaker 4: that four times a week.

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Speaker 1: And this is these are you know, I've been thinking back.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the end of the year that draws nostalgia

647
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Speaker 1: and a little bit of bittersweet and melancholy to all

648
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Speaker 1: of us. But I've been thinking more and more often

649
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Speaker 1: as the years went on about doing a limited series

650
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Speaker 1: of just these kind of war these kinds of war

651
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Speaker 1: stories I remember to the point about to the point

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Speaker 1: about people jumping in to help each other at a

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Speaker 1: moment's notice. I've said it internally, but I guess I

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Speaker 1: should say.

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Speaker 5: It on air.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I've personally always been grateful

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Speaker 1: for you doing and tremendous help for us in the

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Speaker 1: video department, where as head writer of the video department,

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Speaker 1: and we had to put out a high cadence of

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Speaker 1: different videos explaining stuff, particularly for brain stuff. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that I always knew, and I was careful

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Speaker 1: not to pull the card too often, but I always

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Speaker 1: knew your work schedule in the office. So if I

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Speaker 1: had beat me here, Max, if I had fucked something up,

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Speaker 1: I could go grab you right at your dead time

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Speaker 1: and I knew when it was and just steal you

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Speaker 1: to do a video. And I want to thank you

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Speaker 1: again for that, because I know I probably did it

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Speaker 1: too often. But I would literally walk up to this

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Speaker 1: guy and only when I knew that he was probably

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Speaker 1: quietly researching for maybe thirty minutes or an hour, and

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Speaker 1: I would be like, hey, man, do you ever think

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Speaker 1: about zippers? It's funny that we're having this conversation.

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Speaker 4: Have you ever wondered why people talk so funny in

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Speaker 4: old timey movies and radio? Or Translantic episode that was

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Speaker 4: the one that went viral. Uh, yeah, yeah, I will see.

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Speaker 4: I always loved doing that because ultimately I love I

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Speaker 4: love to communicate and potentially entertain and educate people. It's

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Speaker 4: something that I've always loved doing. And the bright side

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Speaker 4: of being pulled for like a moment's notice to do

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Speaker 4: a video was that as long as I was dressed

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Speaker 4: in a way that wasn't embarrassing, and we had some

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Speaker 4: stuff at the office so I could always change out

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Speaker 4: if I had to, I didn't mind doing it because

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Speaker 4: nine times out of ten we had a script on teleprompter,

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Speaker 4: and that was so much easier than all the other

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Speaker 4: stuff I do. You know, reading off a teleprompter is

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Speaker 4: way easier than all the other stuff I had to do. Also,

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Speaker 4: we had some really fun truly, if you want to

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Speaker 4: dive into ancient history of how stuff works and the uh,

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Speaker 4: the animosity, the fake animosity between me and Ben, you

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Speaker 4: need to find our Evil Twin video.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Where we we We wore eye patches as the evil

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Speaker 4: Twins and did tear and we did I did a

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Speaker 4: Quister voice for that, like that was the bad guy.

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Speaker 5: That was the bad guy voice was Quister.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't know if people need

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Speaker 1: to see that.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not good, but it was fun to do.

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Speaker 4: We went to I remember we walked to Toys r

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Speaker 4: Us to try and find cheap plastic pirate eye patches

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Speaker 4: so that we could wear them on camera. And they

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Speaker 4: even had I think the little white like skull and

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Speaker 4: crossbones on them and everything.

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Speaker 1: They did, which is technically hilarious.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't need those eyeballs. They're poisoned.

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Speaker 5: Oh gosh. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot of weird stuff there and we

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Speaker 1: are again we're so grateful for everybody who's joined us

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Speaker 1: on the way. Let us know if you ever want

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Speaker 1: to hear a ridiculous history of how stuff works and

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Speaker 1: stuff podcasts or whether that's a limited series. We are

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Speaker 1: going to continue our odd collective endeavor together. We're just

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Speaker 1: going to keep getting weirder with it. I am so

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Speaker 1: grateful to you, Jonathan, to you know, to you Max,

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Speaker 1: to everybody's tuning in. When we say thank you to

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Speaker 1: folks on air, we genuinely mean it unless you hear,

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Speaker 1: like when Nola and I are being sarcastic, you can

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Speaker 1: hear the italics.

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Speaker 5: I'm pretty proud of that. I think it's okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so with that, with that, Jonathan, we can't wait

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Speaker 1: for you to return and the Devilous some more.

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Speaker 5: Noel, We're we're.

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Speaker 1: Too dowt and it's not even twenty twenty five yet,

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Speaker 1: but we got a game, clean, slate clean, okay, So

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Speaker 1: we appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: That's nice. Man.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get you anything, but we appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: There's still time time. I'm not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: So big big thanks of course too, are one and

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Speaker 1: only the super producer, mister Max Williams. Big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Alex Williams, who composed this slap and bop that you

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Speaker 1: hear in the back.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, christopherraciotis and heeds, Jeff Coates here and Christmas Spirits Hey,

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Speaker 3: j Mohamas, Jacobs, the Puzzler.

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Speaker 1: Rachel Big, Spinach Lands, the rude dudes over at ridiculous crime,

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Speaker 1: every single colleague that we have mentioned previously. Just some

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Speaker 1: quick thank yous as well to our pals Holly Fry,

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Speaker 1: Tracy Wilson, stuff you missed in history class, Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant.

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Speaker 5: You can call him Chuck if you're cool with him.

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Speaker 5: That's the stuff you should know.

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Speaker 1: And and of course Matt Frederick and Lauren Vay Lauren

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Speaker 1: vote well yet I don't think you did earlier, but

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Speaker 1: not not savor from brain stuff from a million shows.

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Speaker 5: You can text stuff as well tech stuff.

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Speaker 1: While we're thinking, uh, look, nol, it would end up

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Speaker 1: being a whole episode of thank yous, but I'll say

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Speaker 1: one of the most important ones for the purposes of

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Speaker 1: this show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, and you as well, Ben, and we'll see

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Speaker 3: you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

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