Speaker 1: All right, we're back with Rewives Part two with Tory
Speaker 1: Spelling discussing the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. This is juicy.
Speaker 1: Ooh this And by the way, I've said a thousand
Speaker 1: things that I would have regret. But Yolanda's saying that
Speaker 1: volleyball is masculine and not something that Gigi should be
Speaker 1: playing to be a model, and that she thought her
Speaker 1: daughter was a lesbian. These things would not age well.
Speaker 1: And the thing of it is, like, it may not
Speaker 1: be politically correct, and it's not what you want someone
Speaker 1: to push your daughter into any more than you'd want
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods to push his son into into golf. But like,
Speaker 1: the bitch is a major, worldwide, international, famous, verry rich supermodel,
Speaker 1: So Yolana did something right because she was a nobody. Then,
Speaker 1: like that's isn't it iconic to see Gigi hadid on
Speaker 1: a Housewives episode a'm and mom, she's almond mom.
Speaker 2: That's like a is she though?
Speaker 1: There's like a thing on social media? Bet she said
Speaker 1: she laid a couple of almonds or something. That's a
Speaker 1: thing called almond mom. And I think it's after her.
Speaker 1: You never heard of this, No, it's a TikTok thing
Speaker 1: a'm and mom because there's like a meme or a
Speaker 1: giff for a sound or something. I don't know what
Speaker 1: any of the gift and it's because she had said
Speaker 1: something that she had a few amends.
Speaker 2: But I feel like Yolanda had a very curated character
Speaker 2: when she started the show that then progressed. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if you know, I know that she went
Speaker 2: through a lot of medical things, but a lot changed,
Speaker 2: huge swing from the Yoland in this season to the
Speaker 2: Yoland in future seasons.
Speaker 1: So apparently Gigi complained about feeling weak after having only
Speaker 1: half an almond, cause Yolanda said, have half an almond
Speaker 1: when you're hungry. This is fucked up. This is fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is fucked up. Like yeah, this is so so
Speaker 1: she's almond mom. Wow, Like I literally if I ate almonds,
Speaker 1: I hate. I don't like almonds unless they've got like
Speaker 1: salt or tomorrow. I don't eat just like plain blonde almonds.
Speaker 1: And you know she's talking about like raw raw, non
Speaker 1: salted at like asshole almonds. I'd rather eat the stuffing
Speaker 1: from my couch. So those are like those are asshole almends.
Speaker 1: Just so I would never got slammed. I think, listen,
Speaker 1: if it bends, it's funny. If it breaks, it's not.
Speaker 1: So I think it was funny because it became a
Speaker 1: TikTok thing later. And I don't think she got slammed
Speaker 1: enough then. Now she'd be obliterated like Kim Kardashian adjusting
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe's dress for the met Gala and losing sixteen
Speaker 1: pounds in four hours. But almond Mom is based on
Speaker 1: Jiji Yolanda Hadid So, oh my gosh, yeah, so she
Speaker 1: created a supermodel with half an almond. How many almonds
Speaker 1: would you really if I grab dimonds? I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: honest with you, how many almonds I would probably eat?
Speaker 1: They would have to be salted, as I mentioned, or
Speaker 1: sweet or covered in chocolate, and I would say I
Speaker 1: would eat six state. That's my realistic number of almonds
Speaker 1: if I went went for cashews the same. There's no
Speaker 1: world where I'd ever read half an amend.
Speaker 2: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't understand what warm nuts
Speaker 1: on planes? But that's about it, right, But do you
Speaker 1: pick out the ones you want? You eat the whole thing? Like,
Speaker 1: what do you yeah, no, No, you don't eat the
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 2: No, I pick out the cashews and like it's all salted,
Speaker 2: it's warm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a couple of like hazelnuts in there,
Speaker 1: and then there's the almond that's got some like warmth
Speaker 1: and oil and salt to it. And that's what I
Speaker 1: do to this some other straggler nuts in there. I
Speaker 1: don't go for the little peanuts. I don't go I
Speaker 1: want the slurnut yeats. Yeah, you don't have to filler
Speaker 1: like slice nuts. Yeah, I agree, But half an almond
Speaker 1: is not something that you participate in.
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: So Kim goes to the Havana Club. It just seems
Speaker 1: like a bizarre If a person has some irrational behavior
Speaker 1: as it pertains to drinking and then goes to a
Speaker 1: cigar bar that has like the glass human doors, you
Speaker 1: might think it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't justify it. Actually, no, you have no justification. Okay, Now,
Speaker 2: I feel like there was more of a conversation there though,
Speaker 2: and it was cut.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, this is what I love. She's a producer
Speaker 1: at heart.
Speaker 2: Don't you think he just loosely threw that out and
Speaker 2: then Kyle was.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I mean yeah, it seems like a couple
Speaker 1: of things. It seems like another thirsty house husband. It
Speaker 1: seems like Taylor's lawyer at the time wants to be famous. Yes,
Speaker 1: he seems to want to make conversation, and he did
Speaker 1: something that producers definitely prodded him to do once they
Speaker 1: knew that it was the case. Like the lawyer character
Speaker 1: in that scene isn't normally the ones like hey, Kyle,
Speaker 1: I just saw you're sister at that. Like it just
Speaker 1: was a little wanting to be in the action.
Speaker 2: As a fan, I actually resented that he was the
Speaker 2: one that said it. I didn't want to hear him
Speaker 2: speak or come from his mouth. See, I was like,
Speaker 2: great information just dropped on us. Please can you make
Speaker 2: another character say it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. For those of you who are not
Speaker 1: Tory Spelling fans, like you need to there's no person
Speaker 1: who understands a Housewives fan like Tory Spelling. Let me
Speaker 1: just break this down. In a previous moment, Tory's feels
Speaker 1: a little resentful. So Tory felt a little cheated that
Speaker 1: you had two b characters having a meeting about something
Speaker 1: so important like meeting your you know your ex husband's paramore,
Speaker 1: so she would have requested that we have at least
Speaker 1: two A A characters in that scene. Correct with Brandy,
Speaker 1: and I respect that. And now she says something that
Speaker 1: so many of you can relate to, so many of
Speaker 1: us can relate to getting a juicy good line from
Speaker 1: the wrong fucking person.
Speaker 2: It's so true and it's not even like a Fay
Speaker 2: dropping it on us. Was gret is that more? Thank you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because she can learn it, but this gross lawyer I
Speaker 2: had no interest. I was no. Yes, it took away
Speaker 2: from the moment because I felt resentment as a fan.
Speaker 1: Mad respect by the way, for the audience and for Tory.
Speaker 1: Half of my face has like a thousand dollars in
Speaker 1: makeup on it. Half has less than one hundred because
Speaker 1: I was doing something so if my face looks different,
Speaker 1: That's why I was trying to see how much it
Speaker 1: really made a difference. One side is like fully Clay
Speaker 1: to Poe and Valmont not and then the other side
Speaker 1: I haven't finished it, but the other side is like
Speaker 1: really really cheap like essence.
Speaker 2: I see that now. I did not even notice that. Besides,
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, how good your eyes look? And
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I have no makeup on my eyes.
Speaker 2: Though I went excessive on make up because I was
Speaker 2: trying to look great, I was noticing your makeup too.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't get to the eyes because I
Speaker 1: really am not going to make up. It takes me
Speaker 1: a long. I don't I get over. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: I can't get all your Instagram, I would disagree.
Speaker 1: No, I'm good at knowing the steps and knowing the products.
Speaker 1: I really don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I know what is better, I know what's exactly the same,
Speaker 1: and I know it's bullshit. But if I have like
Speaker 1: a time, if I have an hour and I have
Speaker 1: to get the whole thing done something like it's like
Speaker 1: if I cook a dinner, the pasta won't be on
Speaker 1: the table with the chicken whale, So like I don't
Speaker 1: I didn't get to the eyes and I can never
Speaker 1: do lashes like I didn't get to the lips. It's
Speaker 1: just like a gloss and I didn't get to the
Speaker 1: eyes and I didn't get to the powder. I can
Speaker 1: never finish the full meal. Like that's like I just
Speaker 1: can't I get you. It's just over what just an almond,
Speaker 1: just and a half, just an almend. I need half
Speaker 1: an almends. I could do the rest. Okay, so nobody.
Speaker 1: There is no greater Margaret show was very good at
Speaker 1: the analogies and the metaphors. There's no greater crystallizer than
Speaker 1: than Tory Spelling. You just crystallize a nuggative information. Where
Speaker 1: are you? I don't see you. I'm a chrystiz, You're
Speaker 1: a crystal. You crystallize that, like, that's amazing her. Okay,
Speaker 1: did you notice that there was an abundance of thick
Speaker 1: bracelets on this episode, like Kyle had. Kyle had matching
Speaker 1: big like warriors, you know, the Princess Warrior coffs, and
Speaker 1: then and then someone else had one whole one and
Speaker 1: though so for if anyway, this was the episode of
Speaker 1: thick coff bracelets. Just I don't know why, but it
Speaker 1: just was.
Speaker 2: There was super annoyed at the store that Brandy and
Speaker 2: Lisa vander Pump shopped.
Speaker 1: Down and not be you feel like it's not at
Speaker 1: the level I know, I know the story. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like boobsh It's it's boomish, right, It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. And they used to go in there
Speaker 1: to yes it, maybe it might as well be boomish.
Speaker 2: So and how do we ask might be one step above?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say that that's really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do we describe that type of store? Like, it's
Speaker 1: just it's a little hodgepodge and a little like tween
Speaker 1: meets adult and a little gimmicky.
Speaker 2: It's the stores that basically you don't you go to
Speaker 2: like downtown LA or wherever you get your ship from.
Speaker 2: Everyone can check it off what you're gonna carry your store.
Speaker 2: You just curate a store.
Speaker 1: It's like what does everybody else do in a normal store?
Speaker 1: I guess you're curating it too, but it's like this
Speaker 1: is different, Like I don't know. At least you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna say the same bag.
Speaker 2: Ones on every block.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna see the same bag in five stores,
Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna have an evil eye on it. It's
Speaker 1: probably gonna have some rhyinestone somewhere.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, it's not like cheap, but it's
Speaker 2: not like you can buy anything for under two hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Like it's not but it's not crazy, like.
Speaker 1: I know exact there's one of those in Greenwich. There's
Speaker 1: one of those on the Avenue in Greenwich.
Speaker 2: And it's it's like they're less in New York than
Speaker 2: in LA. But and you'll see knock off.
Speaker 1: You'll see like a knockoff Potaga clutch in there that's
Speaker 1: covered in fur or like the knockoff like woven one,
Speaker 1: and like knock off Katie, knock off Cardier bracelets and
Speaker 1: Evil Eye bracelets. It's like that that thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like they get a form online and they
Speaker 2: just check off what they want to exactly and like
Speaker 2: actually pick the.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're saying, and and and there
Speaker 1: are cute things in there, like I've found few things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 2: So May Brandy'd be shopping at an op be Yes,
Speaker 2: would Lisa Vanderpump.
Speaker 1: No, uh yeah. However, I never saw Lisa vanderpub wearing
Speaker 1: expensive clothes. If you really think about it, it was
Speaker 1: sort of expensive, but they were like sort of an
Speaker 1: not be in my opinion. I never I never saw her.
Speaker 1: I saw her as looking like it was like it
Speaker 1: was like colorful and diamondy and like Texan, but her
Speaker 1: diamond's huge. But it doesn't look like gleamingly Harry Winston White,
Speaker 1: like her clothes look pink and satin, and her closet
Speaker 1: does too, but it didn't look like it just didn't
Speaker 1: look at that level of like your mez level.
Speaker 2: To me, Oh, you're right. And I remember when I
Speaker 2: did her show, what's it called, Oh my gosh, overserved
Speaker 2: mm hmm. She was like, oh, I love your dress.
Speaker 2: Is it's Zimmerman this you'll get this reference, right. I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, she's like, I love Zimmerman. That's a
Speaker 2: good reference. Like it's not top level designer stuff, but
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: It's above mid. It's above mid. And now that the
Speaker 1: you know. And by the way, I like that. And
Speaker 1: by the way, I've lived in above mid most of
Speaker 1: my life. I have a lot. I literally have either
Speaker 1: air Mez or McQueen or like, oh no, I have
Speaker 1: like love Shack Fancy. I'm just saying, like I love
Speaker 1: the Dollar Store as much as I love Ermes. And
Speaker 1: that is not an exaggeration. I love highs and lows.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't really. I used to live in
Speaker 1: the mid range. But I would say, once you know
Speaker 1: the g's the f's the C's and the Erica Jane
Speaker 1: Doriet crew came in. The pendulum swung into like logo logos,
Speaker 1: show all your money, new money, rich clothing, like that's
Speaker 1: what it is now. It's very very logo y. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous. So I prefer the Lisa vander Pump
Speaker 1: above mid with some expensive accessories than I do like
Speaker 1: the obvious f cheesey. It's the alphabet now, it's the
Speaker 1: alphabet show now. It's just that's what it is.
Speaker 2: So are you saying that Lisa Vanderpump picked and not
Speaker 2: Be to shop.
Speaker 1: In the producers picked where to shop where they got.
Speaker 2: Instance, wait where they got right now, and not Be
Speaker 2: is on Robertson Crat Yeah, okay, so sir they filmed it,
Speaker 2: sir afterwards.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I wanted to do a walk and shop right,
Speaker 1: but the producers picked it because they don't get clearance everywhere.
Speaker 1: And it was before integrations where you'd get a store
Speaker 1: who's going to like pay for you to shop there.
Speaker 1: And Kyle did know in the store which she later
Speaker 1: had a store that was and that store was a
Speaker 1: little like this too, but like a half a quarter
Speaker 1: of a notch up, but that store was like this
Speaker 1: above mid level. Yeah, so that's very interesting. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: are before the days of the Louis Bouton outfits on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: How could you keep up with those outfits? Like, it's
Speaker 2: just not.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fashion. I think it's forced. I
Speaker 1: think fashion is there's a level of being comfortable with
Speaker 1: what you're wearing, not feeling like you're a mannequin that's
Speaker 1: been dressed up with the whole window of the the
Speaker 1: the outfit. I think there has I think for me,
Speaker 1: fashion has to have some creativity.
Speaker 2: You're right, there is no creativity to me.
Speaker 1: It's not I mean the hair, the choice with the
Speaker 1: hair and the ornaments and all that stuff. Yes, but yeah,
Speaker 1: and Eric Erica started this whole thing.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 1: Erica started it, then Dory copied, then Lisa Rinna copied,
Speaker 1: then Kyle like they then Kyle has interesting hair does
Speaker 1: now like Erica started it and they all copied her.
Speaker 1: Erica started it. There's no discussion. She came in. Everybody
Speaker 1: woke their asses up and felt like they had to elevate.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. All right, let's get to the meet.
Speaker 1: Now you are going to really have a lot of
Speaker 1: institutional knowledge here. I just want to talk about Brandy
Speaker 1: wearing a cocktail dress in the middle of the day.
Speaker 1: That was what hit me. A black cocktail dress that
Speaker 1: was tight, like a Robert Palmer dress in the little
Speaker 1: middle of the day.
Speaker 2: But I feel like she wears those everywhere.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand it, Like I just
Speaker 1: you think she wears that always with like a leather
Speaker 1: jacket on top of it. I just was that ever,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand it. It's just such a
Speaker 1: risque Vegas dress in the middle of the day. Just
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 2: You're talking about when she met Sena, but she was
Speaker 2: also wearing one when she met Lisa, just a different pot.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think Wait, you said that was the
Speaker 1: same day. Was it not the same day?
Speaker 2: I meant they probably stillmed it the same day, But
Speaker 2: it wasn't the same day, not in order on the show,
Speaker 2: but they probably Oh.
Speaker 1: They could have filmed it in the same day. But
Speaker 1: she's saying she's not wearing the same thing. You're saying
Speaker 1: she's wearing like one of those little dresses in both scenes, right.
Speaker 2: I feel like she wears those in every scene basically,
Speaker 2: so that's how one of some like sake for like
Speaker 2: vest over it.
Speaker 1: That's her uniform. So yeah, I just I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I really do not want to appear judgmental because I
Speaker 1: think she seems great. I just I'm just like, I've
Speaker 1: just never worn a black, little tight, stretchy dress during
Speaker 1: the day. I just haven't either, But that's fine. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm me. And I'm wearing a grandma cardigan, and
Speaker 1: I bet you she's never worn a grandma cardigan during the day,
Speaker 1: so that's different strokes. Okay, So she's wearing and.
Speaker 2: She's wearing over the little slinky dress would have been
Speaker 2: something that's in fashion now.
Speaker 1: Okay, So she's wearing a nightclub dress to like a
Speaker 1: nightclub environment during the day. Okay, you would not have
Speaker 1: suggested going. If you're telling the truth, you would say,
Speaker 1: there's no fucking need for this, or is it our.
Speaker 2: Need for this? No, there's no need for it except
Speaker 2: that they have a spin off show that's starting approximately
Speaker 2: minutes after this last scene.
Speaker 1: So then it's not real. So then it's like not
Speaker 1: a real thing. So it's a.
Speaker 2: Because why these years later she said no, I don't
Speaker 2: think it would, but she admits on the show that
Speaker 2: she did it for Lisa.
Speaker 1: Well, they had a good hook, because the hook was
Speaker 1: to say, it's going to be awkward because we're best
Speaker 1: friends that are made for television, fake best friends that
Speaker 1: now have to interact together, and this girl works for me.
Speaker 1: It's kind of brilliant, like it's a it's a hook,
Speaker 1: it's a link. So they meet and the line that
Speaker 1: was in the trailer everywhere then and now is like,
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna be the one who's gonna cry.
Speaker 2: I love that, but wait, I just got to say,
Speaker 2: going back to the spinoff, if this were my dad's show,
Speaker 2: he would have had Brandy Glanville do many like crossovers
Speaker 2: on Smander pump rolls like you said the Denmom, she
Speaker 2: would have transfer over there seamlessly. Actually at this point, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not opportunity. Okay, you're not gonna be right. Yes,
Speaker 2: you don't get to cry you? Is that what she said? Get?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get to cry. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be you. Somebody's gonna cry today, it's not going to
Speaker 1: be you. Yeah, what do you at? Let's like break
Speaker 1: this down though, like, let's actually talk about it now.
Speaker 1: Obviously this girl, sheana knew he's married. They're public, he's
Speaker 1: a public figure, so that's like, but I have had
Speaker 1: a man. I have had a man say to ma,
Speaker 1: I'm getting separated, like that might not be public yet
Speaker 1: I have had that happen, a very wealthy man who
Speaker 1: was friends with a very famous person and I met
Speaker 1: them together who he was really like handsome and interesting,
Speaker 1: and he said that he was getting separated. And if
Speaker 1: someone is in the midst of a separation, it took
Speaker 1: me ten years to get divorced, Like if someone was
Speaker 1: separated that you know, like that's that's passing. So I
Speaker 1: don't believe that entirely. I really don't, but I kind
Speaker 1: of you she could tell herself that to believe it.
Speaker 2: But being that he is a public figure, how did
Speaker 2: she not know that his current wife, let's say they're separate,
Speaker 2: is pregnant.
Speaker 1: Though, oh I forgot for fuck that, forget it. That's ridiculous. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Try pass it.
Speaker 2: Off like she didn't know, but then she did know
Speaker 2: when she stayed, but she didn't know. But I was
Speaker 2: the same thing. I was like, wait, she's slipping up
Speaker 2: what she's saying, so you could just google him and see, like,
Speaker 2: but I hear you. He could have been like, I'm
Speaker 2: in a loveless marriage. It's not working. We're getting separate. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do benefit. I'll do benefit of the doubt
Speaker 1: with that. I'll do benefit of the doubt. Like, no
Speaker 1: matter how you slice it, it's not great. It's not
Speaker 1: you're with an actor. He's married to the public. You know,
Speaker 1: the public thinks he's married and she's pregnant. I used
Speaker 1: to see you at the Whiskey, the place up on
Speaker 1: the top of the roxy that play upstairs. You guys
Speaker 1: want you and you and Shannon Doherty walked in there
Speaker 1: and used to wear old Levi's. I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: bring it up last time. You guys used to. You
Speaker 1: were in a Levi's phase and it was like the
Speaker 1: cool thing or somef and like a tank top or
Speaker 1: a T shirt and Levi's that was like your thing,
Speaker 1: and you had a bob haircut like you guys were.
Speaker 1: I was. I was dumbfounded, like I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: And I remember being on Save by the Bell and
Speaker 1: was so separated from most of the actors, like I
Speaker 1: wasn't hanging out with them, but it was it was
Speaker 1: kind of you guys were famous and I wasn't. That
Speaker 1: was like a big deal. That was a massive, massive deal.
Speaker 1: So to someone who's now dating a famous actor or
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who's got some everybody seemed famous to me,
Speaker 1: even the loser actors were famous to me, Like everybody
Speaker 1: who's at that person was in a wheel Fortune commercial,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter, Like that's fame and we are not,
Speaker 1: and like that's a big deal. So just to put
Speaker 1: that in perspective for you, this is a big goddamn
Speaker 1: get for her, and now she can go talk about
Speaker 1: it in the media and be one time on Access Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I would have thought I was Madonna. That's a very
Speaker 1: big deal for someone who's not famous.
Speaker 2: So I guess I didn't know the piece of the puzzle.
Speaker 2: I thought he left Brandy for Leanne, but he left Sheena.
Speaker 2: I still don't is it Sheena Shana? Like I've never
Speaker 2: liked that character because I can't say her name because it's.
Speaker 1: He was fucking around on his fuck around.
Speaker 2: So he and Brandy were done, completely done.
Speaker 1: No, I think he was fucking around on his wife,
Speaker 1: and that was the one in first position Sheena or
Speaker 1: he really liked her, or she said he did, or
Speaker 1: he told her what she wanted to hear. And I
Speaker 1: guess you can fuck around on your wife, but you
Speaker 1: can't fuck around on your fuck around. So he was
Speaker 1: cheating on two people, at least with Leanne. He was
Speaker 1: cheating on his wife, and he was cheating on his
Speaker 1: wife's mistress.
Speaker 2: Wild so one hundred Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I would say that if you have a one
Speaker 1: roach in your house or one mouse.
Speaker 2: Is there are usually more.
Speaker 1: So I would say this is not what was under
Speaker 1: the floorboards, this is what was above Yeah. Fuck like
Speaker 1: rabbits right, And what is the point of Sheena the
Speaker 1: mistress going on television to say how she was cheated on?
Speaker 1: That's just them being desperate and scrounging for clickbait stories.
Speaker 2: Well, she went on to get her own show, so
Speaker 2: it's something right.
Speaker 1: Totally. And now does does that reputation precede her because
Speaker 1: I forgot about that? Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2: That was fine.
Speaker 1: So like fay Resnick posts for Playboy and was just
Speaker 1: on the stand in the oj trial. Yeah, and her
Speaker 1: reputation proceeds are But Sheena was having an affair with
Speaker 1: a woman with a man who's married to someone who's pregnant,
Speaker 1: and now it doesn't matter, and scannedaval is really a
Speaker 1: big deal. But like no one remembers the Sena thing.
Speaker 1: That's sort of interesting because I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: a big deal. I think that would be something where
Speaker 1: you go, what she was sleeping with him and his
Speaker 1: wife was having a baby. So Torri, guess what, Guess what, Toy,
Speaker 1: We're very topical right now, like we're taught talking about
Speaker 1: something that we just naturally got to and we both
Speaker 1: don't realize that this is going on in the Twitter sphere.
Speaker 1: So I love when this happens. And thank god for
Speaker 1: my producers because I wouldn't have known that. So Danielle
Speaker 1: just told me this little nugget. So I'm saying to
Speaker 1: Tory right now, you know, I literally just said to you,
Speaker 1: Sheena was sleeping with a married man's tea. Sina was
Speaker 1: sleeping with a pregnant, married woman's husband. And I remember
Speaker 1: Tiki Barber being taken off NBC because he was having
Speaker 1: an affair on his pregnant wife, and that was like
Speaker 1: devastating an affair and a pregnant wife is like a
Speaker 1: cardinal sin, Like that's kind of a big one. It's
Speaker 1: nine months keep your dick in your goddamn pants, so
Speaker 1: that's a big one. So he cheated on Brandy while
Speaker 1: pregnant with Sheena. They had a scene about it, and
Speaker 1: it kind of like, oh, I forgot about it until
Speaker 1: this episode. You forgot about until this episode, and you
Speaker 1: remember everything, So why I don't think that the scandalal
Speaker 1: thing is as big of a deal as what Sheina did.
Speaker 1: And apparently Sena and Brandy right now current twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: Holy shit, Toy, this is ten years ago. This is
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Ten years ago, Sheena had a scene
Speaker 1: with Brandy about cheating and I didn't remember it, and
Speaker 1: I didn't remember like Gina being that or doing that.
Speaker 1: And now in current Twitter culture, because social media is
Speaker 1: so insane, scandabal is way bigger. And I think that
Speaker 1: the offense what do you think, Toy, is the offense?
Speaker 2: Sir? Are you saying like Sina should be pissed right now?
Speaker 1: Like, no, Sheena is, Brandy's got robbed. Brandy's going to
Speaker 1: be her scandal. Oh that's true too, But if Tiki
Speaker 1: Barber got taken off television, off NBC television, and she
Speaker 1: got a slap on the wrist from Brandy. So now
Speaker 1: Brandy has gone on to enter the chat and click
Speaker 1: bait herself into a conversation, and she said, what's with
Speaker 1: all these Vanderprump people? Ten years later she's saying, what's
Speaker 1: with all these Vanderprump people and the cheating? And Sheena,
Speaker 1: who should have just stayed in her turtle shell, said well,
Speaker 1: I didn't cheat, you know, with my best friend. I didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't I didn't sleep with my best
Speaker 1: friend's boyfriend. I think sleeping sleeping with a pregnant woman's
Speaker 1: husband is way worse. No, what's worse?
Speaker 2: Okay? I have so many questions right now? So what
Speaker 2: is proud of us?
Speaker 1: Though? We got to a point where like we're so relevant,
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty three year Like we just walked into
Speaker 1: a room that's current, and I'm so proud of us.
Speaker 2: Okay, go, So why is she now entering the convo
Speaker 2: about Scandeville.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they're in a Twitter war and
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you should have brought it a little sooner if
Speaker 2: they wanted some attention.
Speaker 1: You're right, but we're talking about it later. But we're
Speaker 1: talking about it. You're wait, so we're talking about it
Speaker 1: as a very side a very very No, we're talking
Speaker 1: about it is a very side dish. But I need
Speaker 1: to know from the girl's last question, did this tweet
Speaker 1: happen like now or this is like a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago. You're saying, right now, live and direct, this
Speaker 1: is a current debate.
Speaker 2: I now, did Sena bringing this up for wait?
Speaker 1: What god rewives fan base and tory spelling? One hour ago,
Speaker 1: Brandy and Sheena are tweeting at each other about this
Speaker 1: very thing that we are talking about day we was.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's like we're psychic.
Speaker 1: Well, the other episode with you did so well. The
Speaker 1: show is killing it okay, and you're gonna be a
Speaker 1: co host a lot on you hopefully, and you your
Speaker 1: episode did really well. So this is exciting because this
Speaker 1: is like more buried us on the episode. So I'm
Speaker 1: really really really excited. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 1: It's tell me more. So anyway, Wait, I have a.
Speaker 2: Question, So going back to Tiki Barber, so how come
Speaker 2: Eddie Cibrian wasn't just like annihilated from Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Does he have a career?
Speaker 2: He does well. I mean his wife, obviously, LeAnn Rimes
Speaker 2: is much more famous. But he does consistently work.
Speaker 1: But does he after show like good shows? You're saying
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, No, but like, would they have
Speaker 1: been better? Was he a major guy that could have
Speaker 1: been a major guy and now he's like a cocktail
Speaker 1: party joke or is he a real guy? I don't
Speaker 1: I couldn't pick him up.
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone was like, oh, I feel like
Speaker 2: you never got in trouble about this. Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't know if he did, but Brandy had some
Speaker 1: questionable behavior on the show, and maybe they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: this must have been a very volatile, crazy marriage.
Speaker 2: True, but I don't know. I feel like after that
Speaker 2: scandal happened, I was like, oh, Eddie Cibrian's probably never
Speaker 2: going to work again. And then he keeps getting past
Speaker 2: as a leading man in network series.
Speaker 1: So Tori Spelling again, Crystal says something because because guess what, Lee, men,
Speaker 1: thank You're right. Men don't get them. But I was
Speaker 1: just gonna say, but Leanne Rimes had a pile of
Speaker 1: shit on her for a long time. Men don't wear
Speaker 1: the shit. So who's wearing more of the shit? Tom
Speaker 1: or the girl in the scandaval? It feels like he
Speaker 1: is currently right, he'll become he'll become some of people
Speaker 1: on a date and it's like bro culture, right.
Speaker 2: But he's kind of like that fluid kind of guy
Speaker 2: a little bit right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Rakla first was slammed, my producers tell me
Speaker 1: at first, but now, yeah, she was slammed. Now it's
Speaker 1: on him. But still the man does not wear the
Speaker 1: bag of shit like the woman does. It's so true, Lee,
Speaker 1: because guess what, that's what That's what I think of
Speaker 1: Leanne rhymes like, that's what I think first, like, and
Speaker 1: I think she's I mean, I remember some of her
Speaker 1: songs being amazing, and it's like the thing we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about here a lot of like reputational shrap,
Speaker 1: reputational shrapnel. It's really important, Like fay Resnick has reputational
Speaker 1: has undeniably has reputational shrapnel, and Sheena doesn't. For the
Speaker 1: most part, she fits right and working at that bar,
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't, you don't know where to turn
Speaker 1: with all the scandals in there, and Leanne Rhymes has
Speaker 1: reputational shrapnel to me, what about to you?
Speaker 2: Yes and no. And that's a hard one probably for
Speaker 2: me to answer because I feel like, you know, when
Speaker 2: I met my husband, we were both married, so I
Speaker 2: there was fallout for me after that, but because my
Speaker 2: husband at the time was married with children, it didn't
Speaker 2: It was obviously we've stayed married seventeen years, we have
Speaker 2: five kids together. No, you're right, I remember it now,
Speaker 2: but there was a reputation. I remember at the time
Speaker 2: having a manager at the time that was like, this
Speaker 2: is you're not going to get jobs because of this,
Speaker 2: and I was like, one, it's two different things, and
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, and luck is great too, you
Speaker 1: don't have reputational shopnel because I forgot about it and
Speaker 1: I remember it now again. I knew that I knew
Speaker 1: that there was stuff with you and your husband, and
Speaker 1: then that it happened, you know, and I'm sure people
Speaker 1: were saying, oh, it was karma that he was cheating
Speaker 1: on you, because you guys are cheating on your that
Speaker 1: was definitely probably said, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's now
Speaker 1: all familiar. But I don't know why I remember. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't really, I wouldn't have remembered it. I forgot.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how you guys got together. Now it's
Speaker 1: coming back into POI so much other stuff out there,
Speaker 1: t and I about me. It might be and because
Speaker 1: you stayed together, get lost and because you stayed together,
Speaker 1: which people do respect and number one in this country,
Speaker 1: people really respect you staying together. But Leanne and Eddie
Speaker 1: are still together too, right, And I don't have a
Speaker 1: good reason for why it feels different. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I don't think your main storyline was you being
Speaker 1: the mistress. I think like you, it was quick. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it was like we're together
Speaker 1: and you were off to the races.
Speaker 2: It isn't that what happened with Leanne rhymesid Eddie Sabrian.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the reason is.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it is.
Speaker 2: Would would Leanne Rhymes Would the perception of her be
Speaker 2: different if her and Eddie had gone on to have
Speaker 2: children together of their own?
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
Speaker 2: They're not.
Speaker 1: Yeah there, it's still her case. Yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, Because you're now a new whole family.
Speaker 1: That is right, Oh okay, it was love. Look they
Speaker 1: have kids together and it starts to go away. It's
Speaker 1: not that people are saying that, it's that's just what
Speaker 1: your life brand is now, Like, that's just who you
Speaker 1: are to people like this whole family, And I think
Speaker 1: you did a show about it, and so that's that's
Speaker 1: what I think. Like I think of you now as
Speaker 1: like the mom and yeah, I didn't even So that's
Speaker 1: a great it's a great thing. But the point is
Speaker 1: that stuff is scary, and that's why people stay in relationships,
Speaker 1: and that's why people have secrets, and that's why people
Speaker 1: hide things they're scared about the aftermath. Like the heart
Speaker 1: sometimes wants with the heart wants, you know, and it's
Speaker 1: not always pretty, and nobody's perfect and everybody it happens
Speaker 1: to everybody. It's happened to me. It's it's rampant because
Speaker 1: feelings and emotions are involved, and it sucks when you're
Speaker 1: keeping something a secret, especially when you're a public person.
Speaker 1: Right interesting, Yeah, and by the way, yeah, you took
Speaker 1: a shot, and it doesn't mean you would have stayed
Speaker 1: in the relationship you were in. But sometimes when you're
Speaker 1: having the affair. Then when you get together, the grass
Speaker 1: is not it's not the roses. It was when it
Speaker 1: was a secret too, right exactly. Yeah, very interesting. But
Speaker 1: Drandy was pregnant, which is crazy. And do you think
Speaker 1: how do you think they both handled the scene the moment?
Speaker 1: I think I think Brandy was a class act in it.
Speaker 1: I think she handled herself very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she had some good one liners.
Speaker 1: But didn't don't you think that she when she said
Speaker 1: fine and if I see you, you can say hello.
Speaker 2: I love that part.
Speaker 1: She vindicated her a little.
Speaker 2: She did because she showed vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't think she's vindicated Leanne. She vindicated
Speaker 1: Sheena saying if I see you, like, don't be afraid
Speaker 1: to say hello, Like she didn't need a letter off
Speaker 1: of Hoop right now.
Speaker 2: I might be mixing up episodes and it might be
Speaker 2: another episode I'm thinking of. But she says that she's
Speaker 2: in therapy or she's gone to therapy with Eddie and Leanne.
Speaker 1: Oh that's for the kids.
Speaker 2: I'm sure for the kids. So she was like, I
Speaker 2: think she says in this episode that if I've gone
Speaker 2: to therapy with Leanne and Eddie, I can go meet her.
Speaker 2: I can get I can get.
Speaker 1: Through this, yes, yes, and but Sheina kept digging the knife. Indeed,
Speaker 1: the problem was, she know was she was trying to
Speaker 1: justify her relationship and she was digging herself in deeper, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he brought me flowers, he bought me diamond earings. He
Speaker 1: moved me into my apartment, and you could tell. And
Speaker 1: we've all been there. We're like, you don't want to
Speaker 1: hear it, but then you heard it. You're like, wait what,
Speaker 1: So she's like, I don't want to wait what apartment?
Speaker 1: Like wait, you know, like that, and.
Speaker 2: Then that's her he met your mother, Yes, and then
Speaker 2: that's new. Oh god god. Sheina was making it worse
Speaker 2: and worse, which hats off to Brandy. She kept it
Speaker 2: together and yes she.
Speaker 1: Didn't go low. Brandy and Knackolo. I would have handled
Speaker 1: it like this if I were she, and I would
Speaker 1: have said, I have made many mistakes in my life.
Speaker 1: This is one of the biggest I've made. All I
Speaker 1: came to say is I am deeply sorry. I understand.
Speaker 1: I just want you to know I didn't realize. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going through a separation. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's bullshit or not, but and I was wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm older and wiser and I will never do
Speaker 1: it again, and so I have to thank you for
Speaker 1: the lesson and peace out. Not like well I got flowers.
Speaker 1: That was crazy and not a great tactic.
Speaker 2: It was a horrible tactic. Like I don't even know
Speaker 2: what she was justifying that that made it more of
Speaker 2: a real relationship. If he gave her diamonds and took
Speaker 2: her on ski trips to Brandy's ski house, right or
Speaker 2: boat No, took her on boat trips and it was
Speaker 2: Brandy's boat. Is this true?
Speaker 1: I think so. And it was also I think she Well,
Speaker 1: this is a good lesson for people. If you have
Speaker 1: to cop to something with somebody else, rip the band
Speaker 1: aid off, say you're sorry, and get the fuck out,
Speaker 1: because do not dig yourself in deeper and don't start
Speaker 1: giving details and don't try. People always do that. They
Speaker 1: want to like dig their way out and get some
Speaker 1: last licks in. There are no last licks. She wanted
Speaker 1: to justify her own relationship, I think to make it
Speaker 1: like well, Eddie was at fault too. He told me this.
Speaker 1: He told me that it wasn't like I was just
Speaker 1: cheating for something that didn't mean anything. Yeah, no, I agree,
Speaker 1: it's fifty shades of garbage. But you'd rather have a
Speaker 1: wamband thank you man, than you know, mother's meeting Mother's
Speaker 1: for instance.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have said, like, you know, you were Tuesday nights,
Speaker 2: and you wouldn't have been like, I wasn't just Tuesday nights.
Speaker 2: You would have been like, okay, right, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: take it. I'm just gonna take it, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just take it exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: If it hadn't been on a TV show, maybe she
Speaker 2: would have just taken it. But she's now like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going into this new show. Am I going to
Speaker 2: look like I'm not the star? Like I'm no, I
Speaker 2: don't think. No, you doing it? Then? Why not just
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Because she was telling the audience all this stuff too,
Speaker 1: and she thought she needed to justify the affair, but
Speaker 1: she just wasn't smart doing it. She wants to get
Speaker 1: the whole you know, she wanted. She knows the cameras
Speaker 1: are on, and she was way more agreen at that
Speaker 1: years ago, so she knows the cameras are on, and
Speaker 1: she's talking to Brandy, but she's talking to us also,
Speaker 1: and she wants to justify that it was a real relationship.
Speaker 1: Otherwise she wouldn't have continued, and he made her feel
Speaker 1: like it was real and all that stuff which happens
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: If Ira Brandy, I would have said, Okay, so when
Speaker 2: you found out I was pregnant, Like, did you ever
Speaker 2: say are you going to leave her? Now? That at
Speaker 2: first I didn't know, she said, I didn't know he
Speaker 2: was still together. I thought you were separated. Then she
Speaker 2: knows she's pregnant, so was I would have liked some justification,
Speaker 2: like did he say, like, oh I got her, I
Speaker 2: knocked her up before I left her?
Speaker 1: What does it matter? Like, what does it even matter? No,
Speaker 1: but she seems like she's almost still in love with him,
Speaker 1: Like that was a real heartbreak, Brandy. He was, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really. She seems wounded as a result of that.
Speaker 1: That really got her. But you know, we don't know
Speaker 1: his side of the story and we don't care, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's a relatable thing. That was a realiable scene.
Speaker 1: Did you like the episode? Did you like this episode
Speaker 1: and did you like it back then like when the
Speaker 1: show is like that versus now?
Speaker 2: I think I loved it even more now because I
Speaker 2: know what's evolved over the last ten years, Like I
Speaker 2: know where everyone is, Like I remember loving it back then,
Speaker 2: but now just being able to go back and please
Speaker 2: go and know where they came from and where they're
Speaker 2: going next in the future is like.
Speaker 1: I love you because you're right. Now we get to
Speaker 1: see Adrianne and her husband and bickering, and it's like,
Speaker 1: that's a breakdown. And now we know that Taylor married
Speaker 1: that guy, that lawyer, and they now live in Orange County,
Speaker 1: so we're putting puzzle pieces together. That makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, that's that's brilliant all And now we know
Speaker 1: that she and is like on this other show, yeah,
Speaker 1: with her own and was married, I think or is
Speaker 1: married or something.
Speaker 2: And poor fa Resnik is still screwed.
Speaker 1: And poor Favor is not a housewife. But we'll say, yes, Robbed,
Speaker 1: you're so cool. You're just great. I was so excited,
Speaker 1: Like I don't you know. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: gotta do the podcast today, having nothing to do with you,
Speaker 1: but like I was leaping in here. This is so fun.
Speaker 2: I feel the same about here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love doing this with you. It's very exciting.
Speaker 1: And this was a meaty one that connected back to
Speaker 1: where you live. And I'm sorry about your eye. And
Speaker 1: I still haven't been back to LA, so hopefully when
Speaker 1: I come to LA, we'll get together. And I, for
Speaker 1: the record, I really do respect staying with your spouse
Speaker 1: through something like fidelity or infidelity does not a whole
Speaker 1: relationship make You could not cheat, but be mean to
Speaker 1: your spouse the whole time and berate them and demoralize them.
Speaker 1: And I would think that de moralizing or not respecting
Speaker 1: your partner is worse than cheating. Not that you want
Speaker 1: to have experience either, but I just don't think that
Speaker 1: fidelity someone not cheating their whole relationship doesn't mean that's
Speaker 1: a good marriage.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think back and I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, what if I had listened to everybody saying leave, leave,
Speaker 2: leave privately and publicly at the time we went on
Speaker 2: to stay together, to work things out and have a
Speaker 2: fifth baby. I can't imagine bo, who just turned six
Speaker 2: and not being in our lives.
Speaker 1: It's so true. And Hillary Clinton talked about this too,
Speaker 1: that she was the one blame, she was blame more
Speaker 1: than him, same thing you said she was blamed for
Speaker 1: not leaving and it felt like she was like setting
Speaker 1: women back fifty years. And I was proud of her
Speaker 1: for staying when I spoke to her, like that's not
Speaker 1: what has defined her life and her family. And they're
Speaker 1: old and they're together, you know, so that you know
Speaker 1: you want somebody to be sitting on the park bench
Speaker 1: with you. So I respect that as a choice and
Speaker 1: like to work something through, and I respect it as
Speaker 1: an honor to a vow.
Speaker 2: True. Yeah, I mean at the time, I remember saying,
Speaker 2: this is a heartbreaking situation, and in the moment, I
Speaker 2: truly felt like, you know, what do I do? Hold
Speaker 2: my head up high and leave with my four little
Speaker 2: ducklings following behind me, or stay? Like either way I lose,
Speaker 2: Like emotionally, I'm losing right now because I'm suffering. We're all.
Speaker 1: So don't break up the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I stayed, And I'm really happy I stayed, and
Speaker 2: I love him and I'm glad we stayed together.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. What a great note to end on, Tori,
Speaker 1: You're the greatest. Oh, just give me your rose and
Speaker 1: your thorne of the episode. I would like to hear
Speaker 1: your favorite part and your least favorite part.
Speaker 2: Of the episode. Ooh, okay, uh my favorite part of
Speaker 2: the episode. My favorite part of the episode was the
Speaker 2: Brandy Sheena scene. Okay, I love I just wanted to
Speaker 2: know what was going to happen. I love that scene.
Speaker 2: My least favorite probably, I mean, I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: anytime canials on. So I just.
Speaker 1: I don't like the Medium scene. But what father? No Medium?
Speaker 1: That didn't really bother me. I hate fake anything fake,
Speaker 1: I don't do. So the Medium scene is.
Speaker 2: Bullshit to me and the lawyer. The lawyer saying the
Speaker 2: Havana bar that really bothered you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that might that might be your thorn.
Speaker 2: Like I I you know me, I love Beverly Hills,
Speaker 2: but I do go in and out of other housewives
Speaker 2: do like OC. But now you ruin my day by
Speaker 2: saying Taylor in this new lawyer guy she's married to
Speaker 2: is going to be on there, So now I watch
Speaker 2: because I.
Speaker 1: Can't watch him. Well, I don't know why, but I
Speaker 1: had the first sentence of me talking today was that
Speaker 1: I liked Fay. So whenever phase talking, that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorites. There's something about her. I just think she's great.
Speaker 1: You're right, you like didn't you light up when she
Speaker 1: was on, like, yeah, she's great. I did.
Speaker 2: I did too, because you like, what's gonna happen next?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just like her fucking in the mask.
Speaker 1: I think she's attractive, she's got the Ames bags, she's
Speaker 1: she's smart, she's not taking any ship from anyone. I'm
Speaker 1: voting for Fae to be a housewife. That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Tory, until next time and feel better.
Speaker 1: And loved your family and it was cute, so fun
Speaker 1: as usual.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I loved you. You're bye.
Speaker 2: Thank you mhm