1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club Morning, everybody in stej Envy, Jess Hilarious, 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We got 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: a special guest in the building. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: How are you feeling? 7 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: I feel good. I think the last time we did this, 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: we might have been on a Zoom call. So it's 9 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 3: cool to be in person. 10 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah it was zoom. How's your spirit? How's your energy? 11 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm super good. I'm like, probably the best I've ever been. 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Amazing, and why is that? 13 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: I think just life is really cool. I think I 14 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: made something I'm stoked about. My fans are stoked. I 15 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 3: got to do all these cool signings and see all 16 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: of them in person and just like be back in 17 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 3: the swing of things. 18 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: So I'm good, I said. They say you're a gym wrap. 19 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: They said you up at six o'clock this morning in 20 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: the gym. They say every morning. 21 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: They might have lied about this morning. I was dead 22 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: sleep this morning. But yeah, I'm up. I'm always about 23 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 3: my fitness stuff. I'm super healthy and the healthiest I've 24 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: also ever been. 25 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been watching videos of you all weekend 26 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: in New York and like you know a lot of 27 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: people have been coming to your signings and you pop 28 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: up the crazy make you feel getting that type of love. 29 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: It's been cool. I mean, I've been doing this for 30 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: so long, and I've been doing signings for so long, 31 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: and at some point, like my brain tricked me into 32 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: being like, you know, they're probably gonna lessen over the years, 33 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: because it's like, you know, we've seen her a bunch, 34 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: she dropped a bunch of projects. I'm on project seven 35 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: or six or project six? Is it seven? Seven? 36 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Oh? 37 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: I was right, see so much music. I forgot that, 38 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't expect it to be getting bigger. 39 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: So they're actually the craziest signings I've ever had so far, 40 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: because it's growing, and that's you know, that's all you 41 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: can pray for. 42 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,919 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, listening to your new album 43 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: and just seeing you over the last few months several 44 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: months talking like there's a confidence in a sense of 45 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: self that you have now that you didn't have years ago. 46 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Why is that? I mean, I think 47 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: it's been a long mental health journey. I think it's 48 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 3: been a lot of contributing factors, new motherhood, different angles 49 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: of like publicly being publicly aligned with certain things are 50 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: publicly misaligned. They're just like not stepping into myself. I'm 51 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: twenty nine, I'll be thirty next year. Like I'm just 52 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: I'm growing up in a real way, so like I 53 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: know how to prioritize and take care of myself differently. 54 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: Now, So why did you name the album Crash? 55 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: So essentially, a crash is the height and the peak 56 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: of a moment. It isn't like the anxiety that comes before, 57 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: and it isn't like the overthinking that comes after. It's 58 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: just this like, excuse me, cluster fuck. It's just this 59 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: this thing that happens. And I knew this album wasn't 60 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: gonna make sense to most people. I knew that it 61 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: would be something that you either loved or that you hated, 62 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: and that kind of just is a crash, And that's 63 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: kind of been The reception is some people hate this, 64 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: some people love this, and people think it's my worst, 65 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 3: and some people think it's my best. And I think 66 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 3: that's really cool. 67 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of everything. 68 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a crash. It's really a cool. 69 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: With that what you wanted to do? 70 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't start wanting to do that It 71 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: started as myself titled and I went on this mission 72 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: to like make finally make the Kailani album because I 73 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: haven't done that yet. And we started in like going 74 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: to all these different cities and we got all these 75 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: airbnbs in different places, and it just kind of grew 76 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: into this thing that resembled I feel like me as 77 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: a person. I feel like I've always been kind of 78 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: this thing that doesn't make sense to everyone. They can't 79 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: figure out, like who I am, what I am, what 80 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: my story is, how it's been, all of these things 81 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: like can't figure me out and whatever kind of way 82 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: how I look versus how what kind of music I make, 83 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: how I sound? And once it started taking its own life, 84 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, it's just me as an album. 85 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: So what is the self titled Kilania album supposed to 86 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: be like? Because you said it was supposed to be 87 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: a Kilani album, what was that supposed to. 88 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Well, that album, to me, is more rooted in the 89 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: core things that shaped why I sing. I feel like 90 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: the Kilani album will be much more referencing like my 91 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: actual core musical references. It'll probably be a lot more 92 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: R and B. But this album really reflected all the 93 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: things that I listened to, like that I grew up 94 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: listening to but didn't necessarily shape my identity as an artist, 95 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: but reflect like you know, worldly where I'm at. 96 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: Basically we're still getting Kaylaning album. 97 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely, that'll probably be my next album. Probably. 98 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lose My Wife as such a toxic record. It 99 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: is so toxic Klin, like, why would you make those 100 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: choices and decisions knowing that it could cost you your wife? 101 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 102 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 3: You know, it's not a true story. I just wanted 103 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 3: to do so in my head, Crash is the story 104 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: of this anti hero version of myself that goes to 105 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: Vegas and has this crazy run in Vegas and ends 106 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: with that lament of like damn. I've like, oh this 107 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: is crashed instantly, and it's almost like the come down 108 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: song of like oh, these are the decisions that I've 109 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: made and like this is what happens. So it's more 110 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: of like a sonic story and an ending to the 111 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: story than a true story that I needed to smack 112 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: on there. It kind of feels like the Hungover song 113 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: kind of feels like the next day you're like, oh shit, 114 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: this is your shadow side exactly. 115 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were in the studio writing these songs. 116 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: You were like, I'm gonna let my shadow side. 117 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, there is there's been so 118 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: many toxic Kilani's songs. There really has. There really has, 119 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: and I feel like it's they are moments that people 120 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: don't people maybe want to say in their head and 121 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: been like I've had that perspective, or I've gone through that, 122 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: or I've wanted to say that, and like I would 123 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: never say it out loud and to me. After I 124 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: wrote that verse, I was like, this is kind of 125 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: like stingy and it is kind of harsh. But some 126 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: people feel like that. 127 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: But when I hear songs like after Hours or like 128 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: Better than Not or Tears, it does feel like you're 129 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: longing for a stable relationship, does it a little bit? 130 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I think everybody wants love. Everybody wants 131 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 3: stable love, and we all just have different journeys to it. 132 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: You know. 133 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, how has motherhood been? 134 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: Oh it's the best journey. 135 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: It's the best. 136 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: She's five. I can't believe it. Yeah, and that's all. 137 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: I got a third thing. I'm literally like, I'll make 138 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: the day seem so fun. I'm like, we're going to 139 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: the aquarium and we're going here, We're going here, and 140 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: then she's like, no, I just want to stay in 141 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: the house and play. I'm like, jeez, what are we 142 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: gonna do. The other dad took her to the park 143 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm just letting you guys know 144 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: I'm not playing with any of those kids. And I 145 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: was like, I respect it, but maybe we should try. 146 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: Died and she made some friends. And she's in school, 147 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: so like she is friends, she. 148 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: Still got musical interest. I heard you say one time 149 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: she had some. 150 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: She's on the album she's on Deep. She actually sounds 151 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: so good that you can't really tell that it's her, 152 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: except for her tone is obviously sounds a lot younger 153 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: than mine. But she's singing her asshole. 154 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: Do you want her in the industry. 155 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: I want her to do whatever she wants to do. 156 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: If that means industry, sure, If that means she wants 157 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: my help, sure, If that means she doesn't want my help, sure. 158 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: If that means she wants to be a brain surgeon 159 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 3: or a rocket scientist, let's do that. It's her world. 160 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: I'm just here. Yeah. 161 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: Is the industry good for kids? I mean, you're somebody 162 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: who came in the industry young. 163 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: I think that compared like, there's two different There's there's 164 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: pros and cons on both sides. One, I didn't have 165 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 3: access to the proper like mental wellness type of regiment 166 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: or care to have grown up in it the way 167 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: that I did. And we're seeing the effects of people 168 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: who you know, adults now and all these stories are 169 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: coming out about them being like child stars are coming 170 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: out young. And on the flip side, I feel like 171 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: people now have access to that. But there's it's also 172 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: a different demon fame now is completely different. It's why 173 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: I don't really post my daughter. I don't there's too 174 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: many creeps I don't ever hear to ever look back 175 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: and be like, I actually didn't consent to any of this. 176 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: I didn't give any permission. We already get embarrassed when 177 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: our parents play home videos for our friends when they 178 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: come over, Like if I'm just subjecting my child to 179 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: her home video, her freaking growing up home videos being 180 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: widely known all over the internet, and she grows up 181 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: one day and it's like, I didn't get to tell 182 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: you if I wanted that or not. You know, that's 183 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: not me as a parent. 184 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 4: So yeah, any more babies. 185 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: I would love to have more babies. Whatever God wants 186 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: to bless me with I receive. Yeah. 187 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the record? What I want? 188 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 189 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I want a bitch that look better than me, pussy get. 190 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: You reading it so serious? 191 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 192 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: What I want? 193 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: Excited? On that record, it seems like you're torn between 194 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: wanting to be spoiled but also feeling comfortable being the 195 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: one who spoils. 196 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm definitely like I fluctuate. Absolutely. I think I'm 197 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: more of a giver than a receiver of like spoiling. 198 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: I think that's just my nature. But it's just a 199 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: classic song about naming all the things that I want. 200 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: I don't think any of them are even cohesive. I 201 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: think they're just like, here's a list of all the 202 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: all my dream things that I want. 203 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: If you having a while weekend in Vegas, why would 204 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: you lie to a woman like that? Why would you 205 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: make her. 206 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: Feel isn't that what you do in Vegas? Doesn't Vegas 207 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: make you me? 208 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: No? 209 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: Not like that? But I'm saying doesn't. It's Vegas, not 210 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: like some adult Disneyland, like all your vices and you 211 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: don't talk about it. Actually, actually, I have a tiny 212 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: residency in Vegas. Thank you, I have a show. Thank you. 213 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: I have a show at the end of next month 214 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: and in August. That's what I do in Vegas. 215 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because even on the song Vegas, maybe I'm tripp 216 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: but it didn't sound like you was actually in Vegas. 217 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: You just said what we do. 218 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: Is like Vegas exactly. The only I made a couple 219 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: of songs. Actually I made part of what I Want 220 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: in Vegas. I made part of SUSI on Vegas. I 221 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: mean actually I made most of SUSI on Vegas and 222 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: a part of Groove Theory in Vegas. But the song 223 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: Vegas I made in Los Angeles, Okay, and then. 224 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 5: On my goal to Vegas the fall in love like 225 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 5: they go to create, have fun, you know, to the. 226 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: Person who said, I'm lying going on, we don't know. 227 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: The record Sushi a sushi, doesn't that mean isn't. 228 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: That's fantasy sushia sushi. 229 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: And that's dirty yeah, dirty girl. 230 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go biling is that with the record? Yeah? 231 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: Basically I mean Young Miko's versus crazy if it's translated. 232 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: And Jill Scott is Auntie Max extreme. She is the 233 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: freak lord. Honestly, the original freak, so I had to 234 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: tap her in. Yeah, yeah, she that was an honor. 235 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: I noticed that you don't have a lot of features. Yeah, 236 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: it was that intentional. 237 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: No, I tried to get more features. There was a 238 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: couple of things that were going on, different time things 239 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: and not necessarily being aligned at the time, different people 240 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: not aligning with me, and just things not making sense. 241 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 3: But the ones that did stick around for me and 242 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: really you know, held me down. I'm super appreciative and 243 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: they killed it. Yeah. 244 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: Now after I was were you surprised of how fast 245 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: I took off, especially on social media? 246 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: Crazy? 247 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a huge dance. 248 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 5: Yeah. 249 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: I honestly have to give a lot of credit to 250 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: Darius Hickman, who's an incredible dancer, and he was in 251 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: the After Hours video and he left rehearsal for one 252 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: of the for the After Hours video, I went home 253 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: and just like made this little dance on TikTok and 254 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: it just like it took it on one. I think 255 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: it's such a testament to how powerful like dance is 256 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: and how like dancers are like DJ's like they could 257 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 3: really break songs like it's I give him all the 258 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: credit for that because it's crazy. 259 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: Did you know who loom d was beforehand? 260 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: Yeah? 261 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: Of course you disrespect her like that, asking. 262 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: Like, of course the one song, so you know, maybe people, does. 263 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 4: She have one? 264 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 3: Course? I think she had one. 265 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: Now. You also mentioned that this album isn't rooted in 266 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: your personal experiences are relationships like your previous albums? Are 267 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: you saying that just so you don't get in trouble 268 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: and people be like, damn, Caline's so toxic? 269 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: No, I think I think anytime a running I want 270 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: you to so bad, so bad. You know what's so 271 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: funny is I think people would be surprised if they 272 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: sat down with me to to actually ask and inquire 273 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: about my experiences, because they might look one way, but 274 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: it's so many different scenarios that lead to while my 275 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: love life looks the way it does, and so many 276 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: that you would be surprised. Who what's happened with this? 277 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: And what's happened with this? And it's just it's my 278 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: business and it's my world, and I'm pretty much in 279 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: good standing with anybody ever, So like running through these 280 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: chicks is extreme? You do really want me to be 281 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: a pimp? You know? Maybe maybe I'll just start embodying it, 282 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: maybe maybe just accept it. 283 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Does that bother you people in your in your in 284 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: your regular business, not just your music business all the time. 285 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: No, I think it came. It comes with the territory. 286 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: I think I got. I hated it so bad, But 287 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: I also I have been again, your mental health journey 288 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: and your journey in being a public facing person, those 289 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: have to be in lockstep like those if you are 290 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: ever having poor mental health. There's so many times I 291 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 3: could say I've been at a table with y'all and 292 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: been in the worst states of my life and I 293 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, that interview is going to be whatever. 294 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: And times I've been like, I'm actually not doing interviews 295 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: this year because all of this shit. And absolutely, but 296 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: I've also was not in a positive space to even 297 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: be able to walk in a room and like hold that. Granted, 298 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: I think the interview at the time that caused things 299 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: like that wasn't my favorite experience with someone. No, but 300 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 3: I also, at multiple times in my career just have 301 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: not been just aligned with where I needed to be 302 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: to be able to show up in that way. So 303 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: now I can hold that you could probably say anything 304 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: to me and I'd be like all right, cool. 305 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: I've record labels gotten to the point where they actually 306 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: respect artists mental health, meaning like if you wake up 307 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: a morning and you say, look, I'm not doing no 308 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: interview today, I'm not doing no interviews for the next 309 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: six months, but they like, no, you have to, like, 310 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: they'll push you to do it anyway. 311 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: Well, I've been signed to the same label since I 312 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: was nineteen years old and I'm twenty nine, and they 313 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: have seen me through everything, so I think they're at 314 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: the point with me where they're like, we get it, 315 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: and we also know what you are going to show 316 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: up and show out for, and that's you know, your fans. 317 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: Like I never I never play about my fans. I 318 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: never played for showing, you know, showing up for them. 319 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: And we've always been super transparent, developed a really good 320 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: relationship with people in media to where like I've been 321 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: able to call people personally and been like, it's not you, 322 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: I promise, like I'm not doing well, or I've been 323 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: on a run and going and going and going for 324 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: six days and I just need to come in a 325 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: little later, I need to reschedule this, and people have 326 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: been super gracious with me. 327 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: So I'm a huge mental health advocate. So what got 328 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: you to that place where you are now? You know? 329 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, and I know it's a journey. I 330 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: know it's up, so I know it's down. But what 331 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: got you to this? 332 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Honestly, I'm going to use this moment to be 333 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: really transparent and to really advocate for people, you know, 334 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: getting psychiatric care. And I got a psychiatrist and I 335 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: got a proper diagnosis after what felt like years of 336 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: getting soft diagnosis and misdiagnosis, and I'm able to get 337 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: medicated help and it keeps my mood stable and I'm 338 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: here and it keeps me like I would absolutely recommend 339 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 3: it to anybody that feels like they need it, because 340 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: it's not something that anybody needs to shame or like 341 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 3: be nervous about. And it's probably the best thing I've 342 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: ever done for myself for sure. 343 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: What got you there? Because most people, like you said, 344 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: they feel like they can't talk about it, they can't 345 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 2: discuss it, they can't get to help because they don't 346 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 2: want to be shamed. Especially in celebrity. You feel like 347 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: somebody will see me do this that and the other. 348 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: What got you to the point was like, f this, 349 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: I need to get help. 350 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: You know, I was medicated when I was a kid, 351 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: and I remember not having the most proper experience with it, 352 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: just because I was really young, and like you're in 353 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: school and like every kid has ADHD and like it's hyperactive, 354 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 3: and I had to be in like the third grade 355 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: on riddling and it really messed with my personality. And 356 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: my mom was like, yeah, no, like you can't be 357 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: a zombie. Like I'll take hyperactive, turn the you know 358 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: over like whatever this zombie, you know. And then on 359 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: top of that, still I just remained with the psychiatrist. 360 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: And then you know, I went into a teenagehood and 361 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: I didn't have that anymore. And then I became an 362 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: adult and just like my experiences in the music industry 363 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: and the amount of like honestly PTSD that that causes, 364 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: paired with you know, all your childhood trauma and like 365 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: all these things, you kind of get to a point 366 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: where you're like, all right, I'm not an expert. Like 367 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: I can't keep being the one to dictate this or 368 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: to supplement or like to to try to fix it, 369 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: ice to smoke a lot of weed. Can't do it, 370 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 3: won't do it. I haven't been a smoker in five years. 371 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: People bring me weat all the time and I'm. 372 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Like, dang, that's about Indigo kind of calms your anxiety. 373 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: So Teva makes you have panic. 374 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: You know. It was because I got pregnant and I 375 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: couldn't and then I got I went to a throat 376 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: doctor and he was like, oh, you don't want to 377 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: sing for the rest of your life the way your 378 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: shit looks cause I was smoking backwards. I was smoking 379 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: blunts like I was what you can find pictures of 380 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: me with like backwoods like packs spread out like like 381 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: like a money spread psychotic and just nasty, just nasty. 382 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: And it just I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm 383 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: just I got to a point where I was like, Okay, 384 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm doing all the things that I can possibly do. 385 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: I'm going to the gym, I'm developing good hobbies. I'm 386 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: not going out and I'm not doing this and I'm 387 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: still struggling. It's to the point where I need to call, 388 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: you know, I need to ask for help. 389 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Did it affect your art when you're on whatever medication? 390 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: No, No it doesn't. It honestly is the first time, 391 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: maybe ever in my life that I feel like I 392 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: have been. I have I'm clear. 393 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Yes, oh congratulates like I thought you when we first started. 394 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: You can really see it's a different level of confidence, 395 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: it's a different level sense of security. 396 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, absolutely, thank you, I appreciate it. 397 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: Now we're doing this album. You know, usually people see 398 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Kalani as an R and B artist, but this album 399 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: is popped. Its country is house music, is reggae music. 400 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: Were you nervous at all and be like my fan fans, 401 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 2: my core won't get it. 402 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: I actually felt the opposite. I felt like my core fans, 403 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 3: my actual core fans, would get it because there's been 404 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: hints of all these things. When my mixhape was nominated 405 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: for a Grammy, it wasn't nominated for R and B. 406 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: It was nominated for like Contemporary, you know, R and B. 407 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: So there's been hints of things my whole life, and 408 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 3: I felt like they would really understand. I felt like 409 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: everybody else who really loved one really R and B 410 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: project of mine, or like R and B SoundCloud drops 411 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: or features would be like, what is this and so 412 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: far for the most part, that's kind of what I've seen. 413 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: Plus this little subgroup of people who are going like, Wow, 414 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: I didn't even know she had this in her. This 415 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: is what's gonna make me fuck with her. So it's honestly, 416 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: it's been cool. I'm kind of really liking the polarity 417 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 3: of the response at this point. If I make the 418 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 3: same album again, I'm not an artist If I make 419 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: the same project after seven projects. This is my chance 420 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: to pivot, and I took it, and I'm just I'm 421 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: stoked to be here. Is exactly exactly. Some people are like, 422 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: this is the best thing I've ever heard you do, 423 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: and some people are like this is chicken scratch and 424 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: it sounds like noise and I hate it, Like, oh, 425 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 3: I don't listen to anyone. I made the album I 426 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: wanted to make, and I'm happy with it. 427 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 4: It's a bunch of different genres and it's so different. 428 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: It was so fun to make. I had it was 429 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: the funnest process. It was so many people involved that 430 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: were all feel the exact same way about it. It 431 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 3: felt like our album, not just mine. We got to 432 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: celebrate it, like I'm happy. 433 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I keep hearing you talk about your fitness journey. Yeah, 434 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: but then they said recently you were body shamed on. 435 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: You know it was an interesting body shame because what 436 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: it was was the accusations that I got ab etching. 437 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's really interesting. The thing is I 438 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: have diascesis right that and a hernia from being pregnant, 439 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: so my muscles are split down the middle, so I 440 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: have I have this space right here and this I 441 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: have like a lump because it's my intestine, it's a 442 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: hernia and it kind of looks like an extra ab 443 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: randomly above my belly button. Everybody was like, that's the proof, 444 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: like and then they were like, yes, proof because she's 445 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 3: not super muscly anywhere else but just her core and 446 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: won if you go back like genetically I have my 447 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: dad is super buff, like I'm damn here bill like 448 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: my father, and then I've always kind of had right 449 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 3: you can really see it, and I and I've always 450 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 3: had abs. And then upon like just really training my 451 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: core to like make up for the fact that my 452 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: muscles aren't connected and I have to get my core 453 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: together to be able to do any things. That's the 454 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: center of everything. I have to go a little hard 455 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 3: on that. And I honestly thought it was hilarious. And 456 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 3: then people just being like, is that a man, and 457 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I was like, do you want me to be? 458 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: Jesus? 459 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: Would you like me to be? 460 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 5: But what I love is like you didn't get mad 461 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 5: and like go get online and start going crazy. 462 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 3: Ba it doesn't do anything. I used to do that 463 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: a lot, and then you just realize, like there's crazy 464 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: shit every day, like people talk about some new shit 465 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: the next day. I remember when the internet used to 466 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: destroy me, like it you what I remember the other day, 467 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: maybe last week, somebody might have tweeted like, oh, like, 468 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: y'all don't call Kailine dirty and she has tattoos and 469 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 3: someone said, oh, you must be new here, and everybody 470 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: was like yeah, because twenty sixteen to twenty eighteen, that 471 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 3: was it. Everybody was calling me ugly, dirty, all everything. 472 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: And I used to be what I was fucked up 473 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: about it like consistently, and then I just got to 474 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: a point where I was like, well, life kind of 475 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: goes on and like I know myself and like there 476 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: are people that know me and love me deeply care 477 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: about me, and like you wash right, Hello, Yes, if 478 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: you guys would like to come to my house for 479 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: a week and don't check in my shower twice a 480 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: day and the levels of aftercare, Like that's on you, guys, 481 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: but you know, you know you can't prove those things 482 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: to people. People who already want to be like that 483 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 3: are going to be like that. 484 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: Regard anyway, Are you still on social media? 485 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: You got off because of that? 486 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: No, I had got off for a second. I actually 487 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: didn't have Twitter for two years. I just got back 488 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: on because it's just what I get back on good 489 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: mental Oh it's a terrible place. It's a terrible place. 490 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: But the people that I need to speak to, my fans. 491 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: I once I learned how to really put blinders on, 492 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: and not theoretical blinders, but like actual blinders, to be 493 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: consistently like this is what matters, and these are the 494 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: people that love me. It's been the best thing in 495 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: the world. Sometimes I have my moments. Someone yesterday says 496 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: some shit to me, like I think Calin is confused 497 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: about her sexuality, and I was like, I've been exclusively 498 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: dating women for three years and like the music's really gay, 499 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: but sure, And then somebody, how am I confused? I 500 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: think I'm the least confused I've ever been. But I 501 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 3: left the tweet up for ten seconds and deleted it. 502 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: You have you know, you have your moments. 503 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did your record label and I guess just 504 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: the industry period react to your advocacy for Palestine. 505 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: You know, I think we're in a kind of a 506 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 3: loop for so long of like what's safe to speak 507 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: about and what's not safe to speak about, especially with 508 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: the powers that be being so powerful and that running 509 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: so deep. Obviously, my music came out, and obviously I'm 510 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: super supportive, so absolutely no problem from my record label. 511 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: I have experienced a lot of pushback. I've experienced a 512 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 3: lot of loss. I've experienced a lot of things that 513 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: were promised and set up for this rollout and album 514 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: to happen, that were supposed to be a lot of 515 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: first really yeah, magazines and these things, and those brand 516 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: deals and opportunities that were sad to lose by at 517 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: the end of the day, like, I don't I don't 518 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 3: regret doing something that I can go to sleep at night. 519 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: I can go to sleep knowing that, like what I 520 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: learned to be as an artist, I'm aligned with because 521 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 3: I grew up fully understanding, you know, the role of 522 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 3: art in liberation, and that's not to place myself in 523 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: alignment with you know, those artists and those revolutionary acts. 524 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 3: But that's to say, like I understood what it meant 525 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: to not be silent, even if I never, you know, 526 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 3: put it with the song in the video, even if 527 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: just me speaking out, I always knew what it meant 528 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: to have a platform and that responsibility in that way, 529 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: and like I can go to sleep knowing that, like 530 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: I don't, I can look myself in the mirror, you know, 531 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: and know that I did, I did the right thing. 532 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: Do these magazines and stuff. Tell your people why they 533 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: say you always hear advocacy of palist. 534 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: Those are really big buildings with a lot of people involved, 535 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: so it always makes its way back. 536 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you speak. You also mentioned that your advocacy 537 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: for Palestine caused a lot of artists to ignore your collaboration. 538 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: So I was talking very fast on a live very 539 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: caffeinated early in the morning, and I wasn't able to 540 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: like really elaborate on that. There are a lot of 541 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: more people involved on artist teams and just the artists. 542 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: And it also wasn't every feature. There were certain people 543 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: who didn't get it back in time or it wasn't 544 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 3: aligned with like the timing of their album. I didn't 545 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: mean every single artist, But there were artists that I 546 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: did reach to when someone on the team was like, 547 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: we don't fuck with her, or they said this, and 548 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: then another thing made its way to me, or like 549 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: another like things we know, we know, things travel, we know, 550 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 3: people have conversations, and those people have conversations, and people 551 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: were respectful enough to not, you know, text me back 552 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: and say, girl, fuck you, I'm Zionists. You know, things 553 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: like that. But I wasn't able to really elaborate that 554 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: when I and I would never I would never sit 555 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: here and name names, because it's not about that. It's 556 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: more about how insidious these the industries are and that 557 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 3: we can be so afraid to lose what we've built 558 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 3: because so many of us have come from nothing to 559 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 3: where we have this scarcity mindset of like I have 560 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: to protect what I have going on so hard that 561 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: I will do anything to stay in that world to 562 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: protect it because I have to keep feeding my family, 563 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: I have to keep you know, building my legacy. I 564 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: have to do that. I don't want to chance that. 565 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: And it's sad because that thing that does get dangled 566 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: in front of our faces when it comes to really 567 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: important political matters that people don't align with It's sad, 568 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, and I don't I'm not mad at anyone. 569 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: I'm not holding anything against anyone. I was definitely on 570 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: that live like yeah, and by the way, let me 571 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: tell y'all about that. But I definitely have those moments 572 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: where I'm like, this shit is fucked up. But typically 573 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a longer thinker and I have more 574 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: to the thought. And it was just unfortunate. 575 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: So you understand when artists don't want to speak god 576 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: about political or social issue. 577 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: How do you feel about it? Right particular background. 578 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: I am the type of person that is very nuanced, 579 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: like I understand how people got to most things. It's unfortunate. 580 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: I feel like it's unfortunate. I am saddened by it 581 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 3: does make me sad because I really do believe in 582 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: our power as people with influence. This is why the 583 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: presidents involve music artists. What they've got. They've got all 584 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: type of music artists campaigning for for the president save God, 585 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: they bring it. They bring us out to sing out 586 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: all the campaigns, all the events, whenever there's anything going 587 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: on that they want us to all get together and 588 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 3: drop a song for it like they keep showing us 589 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: how powerful we are. There's people there's a younger generation 590 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: who don't know what a policy is, but they would. 591 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: They know their rappers' favorite songs, they know their R 592 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: and B singer's favorite songs, and they will learn about 593 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: anything going on in the world if their favorite person 594 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: tells them. And I may have expressed it super like 595 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 3: angrily every single time I've talked about it online, but 596 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: that's because I understand that also sometimes shame works as 597 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: a teacher. So if I got to come on there 598 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 3: and say fuck all of y'all, because wake your ass up. 599 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: If you want to sit and have a longer conversation 600 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 3: with me, we can get to this point. But it 601 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: has made me viscerally angry so many times to feel like, 602 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: look what we could do. And they also wouldn't be 603 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: able to hold us back anymore. If we all bended together, 604 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: they can't cancel all of us. They could cancel me, 605 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 3: and they'd be like, Okay, we got somebody out of here. 606 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: That's cool. They get canceled a couple people speak up, 607 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: but if everybody spoke up, that power imbalance wouldn't exist anymore. 608 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 3: We're just the people United, that's the quote, so we 609 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 3: have to like stand on that. 610 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: And you raised over a half a million dollars for 611 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Gaza Sudan and the do you think money is the 612 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: only way people can help? 613 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely not. I think in every single issue, the idea 614 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 3: is that you're supposed to listen to the requests of 615 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: the people at the core of the issue. You're supposed 616 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: to abide by the requests of the most suppressed. And 617 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: they have asked us to literally speak like that's the 618 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 3: thing about this whole, Like social media doesn't do anything. 619 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: Speaking doesn't do anything. Awareness doesn't do anything. But those 620 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: there are people in Congo who are just saying make 621 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: our stories heard. There are people in Sudan who go 622 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: just speak about us. They're not talking about us on 623 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: the news, they're not talking about us in these magazines, 624 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: they're not talking about us anywhere. But you guys are 625 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: Gaza opened the door for people to even be aware 626 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: of Congo and Sudan on a global scale, because those 627 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: issues have have preceded this genocide. Those genocides have been 628 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: have been happening, those famines that extremely like displacement, those 629 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 3: have already been existing, and Gaza has opened up the 630 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: world to to Haiti, to Yemen, to all of these 631 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 3: places that all this is going on. So the least 632 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: we can do is share things here and there. And 633 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 3: you don't have to have money, but if you do, 634 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: you should put it where your mouth is. For sure. 635 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask what Kamala Harris, being from from 636 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: your side of town, did y'all ever have a conversation 637 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: did you ever reach out to herb for everything that's 638 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: going on at all? 639 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: I'm not really a big on presidents or they're they're folks. 640 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: Not a governmental girl, Really. 641 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: They're not really. I mean there's powering government, but the 642 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: real powers with. 643 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: The people people. 644 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yeah, you are a West Coast girl, and girl, 645 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 5: what do you think about was gone? I who was 646 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 5: going for what? 647 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 3: I haven't publicly rooted for anyone? But have you not 648 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: seen me at the club? 649 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: Oh? 650 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: You could hear me through the soundproof star. I very 651 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: much respect both artists. Drake actually named my album it 652 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: was good until it was and he's shown me a 653 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: lot of love over time, like publicly privately, so has 654 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: Kendrick like he did. You were having a conversation and 655 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: I told him what I wanted to name it. And 656 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: then he was like, no, what's going on in life? 657 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 3: And I told him and he was like, and I 658 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I was. Honestly it was good until 659 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't. He was like, if you don't use it 660 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: as your album title, I am, And I was like, okay, right, 661 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: you're right. It is a very Drake album title. I 662 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: think it it came down to if I'm on some 663 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: West Coast shit, I'm from the West, Like, I know, 664 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: I know how important this unity is of all of us, 665 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: and I know how imperative this representation of us is. 666 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 3: Like I love Kendrick. That's the only artist I've ever 667 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 3: stood in the line and like waiting to get something 668 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: signed for when I was in high school, Like it's 669 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: soundtrack to my life. So I have no like personal 670 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: entrances in anything. I'm just as a fan of the music. 671 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: We just musically just music. I mean, we have to 672 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: respect what we what we saw, we saw bay people. 673 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 3: Ever since though, oh my god, hilarious. 674 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: Listen when you sing that like us, because it's so catchy. 675 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: I have had moments where I was like in the 676 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: club and I've seen that it's a club thing, and 677 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: I was like, damn, this is crazy. But I also 678 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: remember every single big disc track in history being able 679 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 3: to be played for massive groups of people gathering and 680 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: it being a thing that everybody is like I was 681 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 3: too young for like the Ether era, but like everybody 682 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: talks about it and they're like this was. 683 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: Crazy, Like this is in the club every night though 684 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: wasn't in the club. 685 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 3: I mean Back to Back was in the club. 686 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: The club. 687 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's eras it's moments. Honestly, I'm not in 688 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: hip hop, so I can't speak to the sport of it, 689 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: but like it's a sport. I guess you have a. 690 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: Text drink like, yo, man, you did your think let 691 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: me be ashamed about it? Was all good. No. 692 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: I feel like he has real people around him will 693 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: hold them down, and I feel like it's taken that 694 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: moment to be like, hey, by the way, let me 695 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: make sure you know I support you. Yeah, he's got 696 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: his folks. 697 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: Man. 698 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: You mentioned a tour. 699 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I made this album to tours specifically, Like there 700 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: was so many sounds where I was like, this is 701 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: gonna be so fun to saying, it's gonna be so 702 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 3: fun to dance to, It's gonna be so fun to 703 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: play with a band, so absolutely well. I think for me, 704 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: touring is the epicenter of my like my career, to 705 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 3: the point where sometimes you don't even see you can't 706 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 3: even really tell what's going on with the music streaming 707 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: and charting wise, people are like what And then you 708 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: come to the tour and it's these huge venues and 709 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: people are like, I actually had no idea because when 710 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: I look at how it's doing over there, and it's 711 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: just a classic example for me of like impact versus 712 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 3: you know, numbers, and my shows are huge. My shows 713 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: are a blast. Everybody has a great time, everybody feels safe, 714 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: everybody has fun. Like that. That is what's important to me. 715 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: So we're gonna do it again, for sure. 716 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 5: That's what's up, because by then I would have had 717 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 5: my baby and I can get high. 718 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: You miss it. 719 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: Very much, Okay, Oh yeah, I'm not like you. I'm 720 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: going to smoke, okay, but not backwards though. 721 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, I'm trying to. I'm starting 722 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: to get off the backwoods movement with all the friends 723 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: take care of yourself like medicines. I like CBD a lot. 724 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: I like mushrooms and a lot of mushrooms. Making this album. 725 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: You might could tell there's some trips on here. 726 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, that one that you played me, oh my God? 727 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: Which one was when oh my God? It sounds like a. 728 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: Oh my God, like if very next to you. I 729 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: don't know, but he had. 730 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 5: Played it, and I was like, damn, if I sure, 731 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: I probably be like after I was going crazy. 732 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 4: No, not, I was. 733 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 5: I can dance to that one, but this one just 734 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 5: seemed like I have no idea, I forgot, but he 735 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 5: was playing it, playing the whole album earlier, but it 736 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 5: was one particular song. 737 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, I'm can't wait to get 738 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 4: out of that. 739 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 3: I was probably all mushrooms when I made it for you. 740 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: Are you are you aware of like the journey in 741 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: life that you're going through, and if so, what era 742 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: would you define? 743 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: This era? So comparatively to where I was at with 744 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: my last album, I feel like my last album, I 745 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: had reached the ending of what was like toxic positivity 746 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 3: and like toxic spirituality, like almost psychossy, being like really 747 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 3: in my like and not accepting that. Also what comes 748 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 3: with that is like they're really getting into your shadow 749 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: and really getting into also like every single part of 750 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 3: myself and and now I'm in this. I feel like 751 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 3: this era is just really standing in it. I feel 752 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: like I'm down to be whatever everybody thinks I am. 753 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 3: For the first time in my life. I'm not over 754 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 3: here trying to prove anything different. I'm not over here 755 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: like I don't care to clear up anything. I don't 756 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: care to address anything. I have nothing to say about 757 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: any of that. If you think I suck, let's do it. 758 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: If you think I'm a terrible person, let's do it. If 759 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: you think I'm the best person in the world. Thank you. 760 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate you, and I think that that truly speaks 761 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 3: to what you were saying about how different I feel 762 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: is that I'm settled in a way where I'm so 763 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 3: at peace with who I know I am and my 764 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: court foundation that it's not going to be rocked by 765 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: anything else going on. Great, thank you. 766 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: The album Crash is out now. What you want to hear, 767 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: don't say after hours. We played that already, So what 768 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: you besides that? 769 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: Play Deep? Deep, that's a fun one. 770 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 2: Deep, all right, Let's get into Deep right now. Make 771 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: sure you pick up the album if you haven't got 772 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 2: it already, and congratulations on everything. 773 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: The fact that you're just happy. You just look happy 774 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: that you are in a place of peace. 775 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 3: I'm super happy. 776 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: Well, it's killine, ladies and gentlemen. 777 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club in the morning. Wake that ass 778 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: up in the morning. The Breakfast Club