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Speaker 3: You may know us from posting funny videos with our

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Speaker 1: Dead ass starts right now, All right, story time. So girl,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about the time when my track

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Speaker 2: My mom was there, all of our family was in.

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Speaker 1: The brand represents a legacy of determination and achievement and

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, Does it ever blow your mind when people

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Speaker 2: and that's forty eight seconds, right, So it's like, you know,

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00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 2: so then you build this clock in your head. I'm training,

436
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's a that'st fifteen seconds, like you know,

437
00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 2: so it's a little bit insane, but I felt like

438
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 2: it was necessary in order for me to reach the goals.

439
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 2: So yes, I knew exactly what I wanted. Yeah, I

440
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 2: do all the records I was chasing, and you know,

441
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 2: I was fortunate to hit almost all of my goals

442
00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: in my career.

443
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 1: If you did, you ever have a time where you

444
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: were just kind of discouraged, like, man, like it's going

445
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: to take me this many years to train. The Olympics

446
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 1: only come around every four years, Like is it really

447
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: worth it? Because I when I watched the Olympics. I

448
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: think about someone who has trained for four years, they

449
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: get to the track and there may be a fluke,

450
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 1: accident or something that happens, and it's like, that was

451
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 1: my chance, and I trained four years for this. Did

452
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: you ever have those moments of defeat? How did you

453
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: give up through those? Yeah?

454
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 2: So I actually am that person. I had that story.

455
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 2: So in two thousand and eight, I was favored to

456
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 2: win gold. I was undefeated that season. Talking about pressure now, yes,

457
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: I was well number one. And the only race I

458
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 2: lost of two thousand and eight was the Olympic final,

459
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: the only race of twenty races I competed in. I

460
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: beat every single person that field nineteen other times except

461
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 2: for for the Olympic finals. And on the night I lost,

462
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: I literally thought I thought I was gonna die.

463
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Speaker 1: I was.

464
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 2: I literally wanted to just die, because when you cross

465
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: the finish line, you know immediately that you got to

466
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: wait four more years for the opportunity again. And most

467
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: athletes only make it to one Olympics. So this was

468
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: my second. So the chance of me going to my third,

469
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, it's very slim. And so I was overwhelmingly

470
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: broken after that, and it's so crazy because I'll never forget.

471
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 2: So at the time, in two thousand and eight, there

472
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 2: was no Twitter at Instagram, no social media.

473
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: So people the good old good days, the good old days. Yeah,

474
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: I know.

475
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: So people had to email you if they wanted to

476
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 2: communicate with you, right, so you had your website and

477
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,479
Speaker 2: like you know, and I remember I was on the

478
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Speaker 2: stands and I had cried so much because so when

479
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 2: when I walked to the back, Kadeen said, like most Olympics,

480
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 2: they don't like carve your name on the medal or

481
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: anything that you just get the medal.

482
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Speaker 4: And I never forget.

483
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: I walked it back and the gentlemen we were in Beijing,

484
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: he says, what happened? We had your name on gold

485
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 2: medal and I just like I had finally pulled it together, sir,

486
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 2: and it was not the right time. Right before I

487
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 2: walk out, he said, So I started bawling again. Right,

488
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: so I'm on the podium. My eyes are literally bloodshot, right,

489
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: I look so sad, and everybody's like righting me, like oh,

490
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: you're so ungrateful, like you got a medal, and I'm

491
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: just like stoops, Yeah, I'm like you guys don't understand,

492
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: Like how hard I work for this, Yeah, and it

493
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 2: didn't happen, you know, and so it took me a

494
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: really long time to rebound from that. It took me

495
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: a long time to say I want a bronze, like

496
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: I lost the gold, and you know, you start to

497
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: feel like, am I not a big race competitor because

498
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: it's just all of these things that happened. You know,

499
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 2: when that's something that major happens to you, and so

500
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: you know, I got a sports psychologist after that and

501
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: started working with him, and it really helped me to

502
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: put things in perspective and to understand how to because

503
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 2: the reality is when you're at the Olympics, it's no

504
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: longer physical. It's all mental because everybody on the line

505
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: is physically you wouldn't be there, right, You're the top

506
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: eight women in the world, the top eight, like it

507
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 2: has been quantified.

508
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: You are no. No, no, I really am that chick.

509
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 1: No for sure. I check the numbers, the number so

510
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Speaker 1: it's you know.

511
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: So then it's about the mental game, like who can

512
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: stay present in the moment and execute their race strategy?

513
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Speaker 4: Right.

514
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: I didn't even think of a sports psychologist, like someone

515
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: like a therapy session, but specific for an athlete after

516
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that that was like an actual thing.

517
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wish, and honestly, our women like Simone

518
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 2: bows In, you know, recent years have actually brought more

519
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: attention to it, which I think has been very helpful

520
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: because in my day it wasn't talked about.

521
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, and I really wish.

522
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Speaker 4: I think I would have been even more dominant had

523
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Speaker 4: I had.

524
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Speaker 1: I mean, mental health in general has now become a

525
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Speaker 1: thing that we're openly discussing.

526
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Speaker 4: But it hasn't been in the past.

527
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't and so you know, you just push through

528
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: even though you're dealing all these things. So anyway, so

529
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: to a very long answer to your question, it took

530
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: me a lot to overcome that loss. And I remember

531
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Speaker 2: standing on the start line in twenty twelve, and you know,

532
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: my sports psychologist told me, he's like, something's going to

533
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 2: happen that's gonna knock you off your block, but you're

534
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: going to put your hand on your stomach, You're going

535
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 2: to breathe into your hand, and you're gonna remember all

536
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: that you've done to be here. If you watch the

537
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: race back, you literally see me do that because I

538
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: was in the lane five or six in Alien seven

539
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: or eight.

540
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 4: Was the defending Olympic champion.

541
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Speaker 1: She's the one that one in two thousand and eight.

542
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 4: And she's British, so she was.

543
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: She literally lived like five minutes from the stadium and

544
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: usually when the race starts, I usually get the loudest roar,

545
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 2: right hello, Well.

546
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: They not on that day.

547
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Okay, they said Christina Rugu and literally it was deafening wow.

548
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, where is she from. She's

549
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: from Great gat Wait, she's.

550
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: From London, from London, and the Olympics were in London,

551
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: so you know what I mean, home court of course,

552
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: and she's the final.

553
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: So excited. So I was like, oh my god.

554
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 4: So like I had to get back in my eyear.

555
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: That was the moment. This is what told me about.

556
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: So you see me put my hand on my stomach,

557
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: bringing too the thing and I was like, not on today, honey,

558
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: not on today. I refused to lose to I waited

559
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 2: four years for that year, and it felt like I ran. Yeah,

560
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 2: it was really beautiful and so yeah, I suddenly had

561
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 2: my highs and lows. And I think with anything big

562
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: that you attempt to do in life, it's par for

563
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: the course. You know, success is not a rocket ship

564
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: like it is going to have it's and Valley's going

565
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: to have his highs and lows, and so yeah.

566
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: I certainly experienced that.

567
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: But man, when I got to finally sound top of

568
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: that podium for the individual four.

569
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Speaker 1: Hundred, yeah, oh my goodness, I love that for you.

570
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about sports currently and what it's looking like

571
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: for athletes in general, but specifically when it comes to

572
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,959
Speaker 1: track and field and being a woman in the sport.

573
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: How have you seen a shift in that? With nil deals?

574
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: You're going to go that direction because and I say

575
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: that because it's so different than for example, your story

576
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: where you just had to tooth and nail, fight and train,

577
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: and the proof was in Sonya Richards at the time,

578
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: not Ross but Sonia Richards, the athletes, and not necessarily

579
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: what came with that, the potential celebrity or the endorsement

580
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 1: deals or the brand partnerships. Those things weren't a thing,

581
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: and ultimately it boiled down to you as a talent.

582
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: As a talent, you as an athlete. So now I

583
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: know you have two boys of your own. Boy mom's

584
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: strolling through over here. But if you had a daughter,

585
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: or just for advice for you know, the girl athlete,

586
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: the track star who wants to you know, elevate within

587
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: that particular sport with these nil deals, how have you

588
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: seen like a shift in what the sport looks like

589
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: any I guess complications that may arise for an athlete.

590
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Speaker 2: It's a really good question and it's one that I

591
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: actually my god daughter, one of my best friends, Breshn Jackson,

592
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 2: has a god daughter. Her name is Shanty Jackson and

593
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: has a daughter, and she's my goddaughter.

594
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: Yes, and she's going to be a superstar in the sport.

595
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: She is phenomenal, a phenomenal athlete.

596
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 2: And so when you started to talk about that, I just,

597
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: you know, I think of her like, what would I

598
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: tell Shaunty as she navigates this very new space because.

599
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: It is very different.

600
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Speaker 2: And I will say this, like, there are a lot

601
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: of pros to athletes being able to make money off

602
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 2: of their image and likeness, right because I could tell

603
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: you I can talk about this all day because obviously

604
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: on the Olympic level, I think that there needs to

605
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: be lots of changes made there. I understand on the

606
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: college level, especially for football players, how much money they

607
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: bring to the schools, and I do think that the

608
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: people who are the entertainment, who are putting their bodies

609
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: on the line, who are working, deserves to be paid.

610
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: But it does come with a level of pressure and

611
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: it could be a potential distraction that I just I

612
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: don't it's hard to balance the progress.

613
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: It's going to take us some time to see, right.

614
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: So for those of you who don't know what an

615
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: anil deal, it's name, image and likenss. So you're seeing

616
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: more and more. I guess the conversation topic around the

617
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: before this even became a thing was the fact that

618
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: there are schools, there are institutions, there are boosters, there

619
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: are people who are making money, are money and this

620
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: is even I could a high school level absolutely that

621
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: are making these deals that are using the name, image

622
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: and likeness of an athlete who they think, for example,

623
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: like with your goddaughter, this is going to be the

624
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: next Sonia Richard's Ross, So how do we capitalize on

625
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: that now? So it's like, oh, we know that this

626
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: person's going to make us multimillion dollars, if not now

627
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: in the future, so let's give them a couple of

628
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: dollars now just to make them feel okay. And I

629
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: think that's also one of the struggles I saw. Even

630
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: when my husband had his training program. We had a

631
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: couple girls who came up from Jamaica and we're training

632
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: with him and the trainer at the time, but sometimes

633
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: finance is an issue. Of course, you know, where is

634
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: this girl going to stay? Like, how is she going

635
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: to survive up here? You know, for all these things. So, yeah,

636
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see, like you said, it being a

637
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: benefit but also a potential distraction is from the sport.

638
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a huge benefit if you have the

639
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: right people around you. And you know, because because the

640
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: whole thing is, and from my own experience is the

641
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: only place I can speak from, is that sport was

642
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: so much fun for me and it was this place

643
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: of retreat and solace until the pressures and the money

644
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: and all that stuff place started to be a part

645
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: of it, you know, because now you're making choices based

646
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: on those things as opposed to sport just being something fun,

647
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: you know. And so what happens when you start to

648
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: put money in the mixed, very early for young people,

649
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: you start to put the pressures on decision making.

650
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: And now they're the boss and all these things.

651
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: And especially what I think is really challenging is a

652
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: lot of young people who are great athletes are first

653
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: time millionaires. They don't have people in their circle who

654
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: know how to.

655
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Deal with in that. Yeah. Right, So now you give

656
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: a kid who you know.

657
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: Is from a situation where you know they may be

658
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: whatever the circumstances are, and now they got a million

659
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: dollars or five hundred.

660
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Dollars, and it's like, you know, everybody has their hands

661
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: out exactly. Everyone's now the expert on what you should

662
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: do with your money. The same thing goes for the

663
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: NFL athlete, for example, than the draft. Yes, you know,

664
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you get that signing bonus for however many millions of dollars,

665
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: and then you leave them to their own devices exactly,

666
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: you know.

667
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: So I think that I think the better way to

668
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: do it would be, yes, to give athletes what they

669
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: are doing based on all that they bring, but maybe

670
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: put it in a fund or something where they can't

671
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: touch it until they're older, because I think that it,

672
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: unfortunately will have an impact on their performance because life changes.

673
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: Like when you have money. We all know, more money

674
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: more problems than the real thing. And I just feel

675
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: like young people should be allowed to be young people.

676
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: They should be able to focus, should be fun, It

677
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: should be light. It shouldn't be so heavy too early,

678
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: because that's going to come anyway, right. But yeah, I mean,

679
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: if if the if the colleges are saying, look, y'all

680
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: are making us twenty thirty million dollars, we want to

681
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: give something back to you, do it, but put it

682
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: in a fund where they don't have access to it

683
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: until they're maybe twenty one or something. You a good

684
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: idea and provide provide good people, like give them good managers,

685
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: give them people who can help them manage their money,

686
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: like you know, give the money.

687
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Financial advisors, people who are paid track of these things,

688
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: teaching about investments and things like that. Remember for success exactly.

689
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: I remember when my husband was playing in the NFL,

690
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: they used to have courses like you could come in

691
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: exactly and they would kind of teach you how to,

692
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, invest your money and the things to do

693
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: with it and make it really wise. So that made

694
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: sense then, And I think that's a really good, good

695
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: point that you've made there. It's like they all controlled

696
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: environment where they do have them because they do deserve it.

697
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think about some of these girls and

698
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: guys that I see out here doing amazing things. But

699
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: I can also see how it kind of convolutes the

700
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: sport in general and the focus of the Did you

701
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: ever have any moments where things were kind of getting

702
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: in the way of your goal, your dream, like, you know,

703
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily a brand deal or per se, but just

704
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: something was trying to knock you off of your track.

705
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: For lack of a better yeah or pun intended, I

706
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: just say, yeah, yeah, so yeah.

707
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean, throughout my journey, I've had a lot of

708
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: you know, challenges, whether it was like you said, maybe

709
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, whether it was a brand deal or I

710
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: always had this vision of like wanting to be the

711
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: face of the sport, and like I remember my first Olympics,

712
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: I had like eight contract deals, Like wow, do different sponsors,

713
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: BMWBP all this stuff? And yes, I do feel like

714
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: sometimes those things distracted me from just the pure training

715
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: and focus of the sport. I've also had like really

716
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: tough challenges in my personal life, you know, And it's

717
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: a story that I shared in my book where you

718
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: know about two thousand and eight, because I had you know,

719
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: people saw what happened, and you know, you talk about

720
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: it in the best way you can frame it for

721
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: the world, but the reality is there was a more

722
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: going on in two thousand and eight that I finally

723
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: opened up and shared in twenty sixteen, And so it's

724
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: always still hard for me to tell this story, even

725
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: though it's been so many years ago. But right before

726
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: I left for Beijing, I found out I was pregnant.

727
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

728
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 4: Literally the day before I got on the plane, I

729
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: had an abortion.

730
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

731
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: And so my husband and I had been we were

732
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: I think just engaged. We have been together for about

733
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: five years prior to two thousand and eight, we weren't

734
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: married yet. He had just been off to the NFL

735
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: for about two seasons. And you know, at the time,

736
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: it was crazy because we also had this like notion

737
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: as female athletes that oh, when you're training, when you

738
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: got this low body fat, you can't get pregnant. It's

739
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: like really like misinformation, like we believe like, oh, I'm

740
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: at my fitness, it's no way I could get pregnant, right,

741
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: and then bam, here I.

742
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: Am, right, which is actually kind of contrary because at

743
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: your fittest and your most healthy, it's probably the best time. Yeah,

744
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: think about it.

745
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, anyway, so you know it was it was

746
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: a really challenging time for me, Kadeen, because as a

747
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: Christian woman, as someone who desired to start a family

748
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: at some point, and someone who always really saw life

749
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: as very black and white. For the very first time

750
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: in my life, I felt like I was in this

751
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: area of gray, and I did not know what to do.

752
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: You know. I was like, all my life, I've dreamt

753
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: of being an Olympian, and here I am now going

754
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: on the precipice of winning my first Olympic gold medal.

755
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 4: Was what I thought.

756
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: I'm faced with this very hard life decision, you know,

757
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: and so I decided to have the abortion.

758
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: I didn't tell.

759
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: My only person that knew was my mom, my sister

760
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: in Ross.

761
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: My dad didn't know, my coaches, didn't know nobody now,

762
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: and so I travel over to Beijing and I'm still

763
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: working and mind you supposed to be fourteen days, do nothing,

764
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: do nothing, yea working out, I'm doing every I'm literally like,

765
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: oh wow, yeah yeah, because I don't want my coaches

766
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: to not w anybody to know them.

767
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

768
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: And you know, I reflect on that time and I

769
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: and I just sometimes I just weep for that girl,

770
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: you know, because it was just it was so hard

771
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: on me because I the night before the Olympic final,

772
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't sleep because I didn't feel like I was.

773
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: Worthy of winning the Olympic gold.

774
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: You know.

775
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: I just I felt like when I had the abortion,

776
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: I left a little bit of my soul on the table.

777
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: Right, It's like playing like was this worth it?

778
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I never thought I would be in that situation.

779
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 2: And then it was just just a lot of things.

780
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: So outside of already the emotional toll it takes on

781
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: you to compete at that level. I was in like

782
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: an emotional and spiritual warfare, you know, for myself internally.

783
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: So then I talk about the mental exactly in that

784
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: it takes not just to run the race, but then

785
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: now to deal with this extra exactly you know, situation

786
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: that must have been quite a time for you to

787
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: get by.

788
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really really hard, and so I remember.

789
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: But the thing is, and I think at the end

790
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: of all of you know, any kind of these stories,

791
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: there's always you know, if you allow it, you know,

792
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 2: there are these incredible moments. And so after I lost

793
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: in Beijing, I remember getting on a bus to go

794
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: find my family.

795
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go to the village, and everybody

796
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 4: be like, oh, what happened?

797
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I get on this bus to go

798
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: be my family and I get lost, and so I

799
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: jump off the bus because I'm literally like heading the

800
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: wrong direction. And I'm bawling because I'm like, oh my god,

801
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm physically lost. I feel spiritually lost, I'm emotionally lost.

802
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: And when I tell you, I felt the loving arms

803
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: of God wrap his arms around me in Beijing, China,

804
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: on the side of the road.

805
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 4: It was like I just heard him say, You're forgiven.

806
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: You're forgiven.

807
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: You know what.

808
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: It made me realize that God's love is just is

809
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: first of all, it's so enduring, it's so patient, it's

810
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: so everything.

811
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: It's so kind.

812
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: And God doesn't treat us and love us the way

813
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: we love each other.

814
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: Like God didn't want to punish me, no judging it. Yeah,

815
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: you know.

816
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: And so in reality, when I and I didn't want

817
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 2: to run the four by four because I was so broken,

818
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: I went back on the track. We actually got to

819
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 2: stick behind for the first time ever. When I competed

820
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: for Team USA, and I remember, you know, passing the

821
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: Russian in the final fifty meters of the race, and

822
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: it just felt like the story of God's love, you

823
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like he has us, like

824
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: he's going to see us through to victory, you know,

825
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: if we allow him to love on us. So yeah,

826
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: into like, oh no, it's just and I love that.

827
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: And you don't have me emotional too, because I share

828
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: a similar story, you know, with Deval and I when

829
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: we were younger. I spoke about it in our book

830
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: as well too, where it's like you're forced to make

831
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: this decision where it's like you're with somebody who you love,

832
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: you do see so much. Yeah, and then you have

833
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: a moment where you're just like man, I know that,

834
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: like above all else. And it's so funny. Devin and

835
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: I were having a conversation just while we were on

836
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: a vacation for our anniversary fourteen years and he was

837
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: just like man like he's talking about his acting career

838
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: and like what he can foresee for himself and you know,

839
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: are our what's next And he's just like, you know,

840
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I said to him, I said, the dream that you

841
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: have to be an actor and that desire, like that's

842
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: all you can think about that's me as a wife

843
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: and mom, Like everything else to me is secondary. This

844
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: is secondary career, Everything is secondary to being a wife

845
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: and mom, Like that's something that was my life's dream.

846
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: So I can completely relate to you in that moment

847
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: where I was like, oh my god, this is the

848
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: person who I absolutely love. We were in college at

849
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: the time, but nobody couldn't tell us that we weren't

850
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: in love. But look here we are twenty two years later,

851
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: and it was a decision that we made because we

852
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: felt like we weren't equipped in that moment. And I've

853
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: played it back in my mind a thousand times, like, Wow,

854
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: if I did go through with it, I know God

855
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: would have provided and found a way for us to

856
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: make things happen and still be okay. But it's such

857
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: a hard position to be, and so I empathize with you.

858
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: I love that you're able to see the bright side

859
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: of it. And fast forward years later, you have your husband,

860
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: your two beautiful sons, so it just tells you that

861
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: all is not lost, and like you said, feeling that

862
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: that loving arm that wrap from God to let you

863
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: know everything was okay and you're still worthy. I love

864
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: that you had that moment because I've had a moment

865
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: very similar to so I didn't even realize that we're

866
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: going to connect on that. But a lot of people,

867
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: I think can relate to situations like that. For sure.

868
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure we're not the only women who've been in

869
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 1: that predicament, So shout out to us. So now fast

870
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: forward to Sonia Richards, Ross, the mom, the wife, the

871
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: new I don't want to say new, but like you said,

872
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: the next phase of what it's looking like for you

873
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: having had track being kind of like your springboard into

874
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: all these things. What was it like for you? Because

875
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 1: I think that's another thing that we can relate on

876
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: because I ain't no tracks to our child. However, I

877
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: do know what it's like to be married to an athlete,

878
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: an NFL athlete, your husband who you call him Ross,

879
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: So I hear you were saying Ross, So just what

880
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: has it been like for you balancing your successes, your goals,

881
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: your dreams, knowing that he also had his or still

882
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: has his right How do you guys juggle and balance

883
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: that when you both are within your own rights? You know, champions,

884
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: you guys are stars.

885
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know the good thing for us.

886
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: And I always tell people this, I don't think I

887
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: could have been married to anybody else because the fact

888
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: that he was an elite athlete and he understood the

889
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: sacrifice and the commitment to sport made our relationship so special,

890
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 2: you know. And what was great was that our seasons

891
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: were at different times of the year, and so he

892
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: would come and support me, I'd come and support him.

893
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: The first couple, I would say, the first ten fifteen

894
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: years of our relationship was like incredible.

895
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: You know.

896
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: Where the challenge just came into our marriage was after sports,

897
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, like when the first thing was having a child.

898
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: Didn't nobody didn't nobody want.

899
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Us, Nobody told you nothing. But you know what it

900
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: is too. I've realized just hearing from from NFL wives,

901
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: specifically those who have had husbands retire and they're home

902
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like a disruption of the lay

903
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: of the land. You were getting in the way, go

904
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: find something to do, find somewhere to go. Or there's

905
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: also that transitionary period of now I'm retired from athleticism,

906
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: what's the next thing. Fortunately for Deval, he knew that

907
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: for him, football was just a means to an end.

908
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: Let me, try to play the sport, get a free education,

909
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: go to the NFL, get a nest egg, so I

910
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: can start this life and become an actor. That was

911
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: his past. Wow, So it's interesting to hear you say

912
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: that you guys had your issues after Was it something

913
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: similar where Ross was trying to find his way after

914
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: football or was it just the you know, the exy

915
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: flows of life with parenting and stuff.

916
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 4: I think a little bit of both. So we both

917
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: like both retired.

918
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: So Ross had probably retired about two three years prior

919
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: to us having a child, and I had just retired.

920
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: So I retired in twenty sixteen, baby in twenty seventeen.

921
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: And so you don't waste any time.

922
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: No, No, it was great.

923
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: You knew you're ready.

924
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it was just a lot of

925
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: things changing at the same time. So we both retired, right,

926
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: we and like you said, now we're living together full time,

927
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: which we hadn't done like the whole our whole marriage.

928
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: We were like, I'm a new rope from you know.

929
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: It's like we were just kind of like, you know,

930
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: obviously we spent a lot of time together, but because

931
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: of our careers, I felt like we we appreciated the

932
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: time together so much because we knew, oh, next weekrobably

933
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: gone for three weeks.

934
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: You know. So now like this long distance relationship situation

935
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: when you have time to miss each other and when

936
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: you get together it's like so.

937
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: Good exactly yeah, I been there, yeah, and it was

938
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: like perfect.

939
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

940
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: Then so so we have all these life changes. Who

941
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: were both retired, we're living in the same house together.

942
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: And then our son was tough, like when she was born.

943
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: He was like very clingy kid, like very needy kid,

944
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: need a lot from us. I nursed him for three years, wow, exclusively.

945
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: You know.

946
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: And I think that I had expectations of myself, expectations

947
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: of him and vice versa. That you know, one of

948
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: the things that has made our marriage so successful was

949
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: how well we communicated. And I think we really struggled

950
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: after baby, because when you're trying to communicate stuff about parenting,

951
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: the only thing the person hears is you're not being

952
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: a good dad, You're not being a good mom. And

953
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: it was never that my husband is the best dad.

954
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: Needed him to be a different kind of partner for me, yes,

955
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: you know, and sometimes I don't think I was expressing

956
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: it clearly and vice versa, Like, sure, I think I

957
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: might have been making him feel like he was being

958
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: a bad dad. For sure, I had nothing to do

959
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: with his relationship with Deuce. It was how he was

960
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: supporting me and making me feel.

961
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: And at that time too, when you're a new mom,

962
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: you don't even know half the time what you want

963
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: you to exactly a lot of times just you trying

964
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: to figure out the ebbs and flows of what you're feeling.

965
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: Your hormones are on a thousand, they're up and down.

966
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: So I can totally relate to that moment. But it's

967
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: great that you guys are able to I just find

968
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: your way through that.

969
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: It took us a couple of years and then we

970
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: got on like track. And that's how come we waited

971
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: sometimes to have another one because I didn't want to

972
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: risk it, Like I felt like our marriage, like my

973
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: marriage is the most important thing to me. Yes, outside

974
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: of my relationship with God, it's my It's my marriage

975
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: and my children the most important things to me. And

976
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: so as much as loud as a noise got from

977
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: the outside, you should have another one.

978
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 4: No, we gonna make sure everything is perfect.

979
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: How many years between two seven years? Six years? See

980
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: and Jackson and Cairo's five years because I think it

981
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: was a similar thing to Another similarity is that we

982
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: two were struggling like those we had a honeymoon baby,

983
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: so we got married, got pregnant, honeymoon and right into

984
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: parenting and this eff are being together for eight years.

985
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: So we had different Yeah, it's so different because we

986
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: had our routine, like we knew who we were.

987
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: It was like a tornado, like are we me and

988
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Ross were perfect and boom.

989
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Like a out of nowhere, out of nowhere. And I

990
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: will always say those five those first five years of

991
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: our marriage were the most difficult because we were transitioning.

992
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: And that's why it took five years to have another

993
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: baby between Somebody else can understand how that relate to

994
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: that because we were like, you know. Another thing was like,

995
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: oh you had one kid, like it's been three years,

996
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: it's been four years, it's been five years, and I'm like,

997
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: do we really want to throw another child into the mix?

998
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: Like right now? No, girl, completely, I completely get it. Yeah,

999
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Sonya? I feel like you

1000
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,959
Speaker 1: have so many different things moving and shaking right now.

1001
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: I love that for you. I love that you are

1002
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: able to kind of check off the goals and the

1003
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: dreams that you've had for yourself. So what's it looking

1004
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 1: like for you now moving forward?

1005
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I am in a space in

1006
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: my life right now where I, like you said, it's

1007
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: my priorities our family. So you know, everything that I

1008
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: want to do has to feel like it fits my family.

1009
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: It is the best thing for my family, not going

1010
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: to disrupt our peace, so our joy and our happiness.

1011
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: And so you know, we are focused on like the

1012
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: pajama line which we launched, which I was telling you

1013
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: all about, which makes me so happy because the pajama

1014
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: line feels like the perfect reflection of where my husband

1015
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: and I and my family are now. Z.

1016
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Yes, we are intimate, Yes, yeah, on each other exactly. Yeah.

1017
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: You know, the idea of family entrepreneurship, creativity, you know,

1018
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: and the whole idea of our pajamas is that we

1019
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: want to elevate moments and make them lasting memories, you know,

1020
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: And so I love to coordinate my family. That's like

1021
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: our thing, and so to be able to provide that

1022
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: for others, like even we were at the trials and

1023
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: we were gifting it to the Team USA because we

1024
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: have our team and say.

1025
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: Collaboration fire, thank you sidebar.

1026
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And one of the one of the guys had

1027
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 2: just made the team and his wife and kid they

1028
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: were processing with him, and I said.

1029
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you guys want to do a picture?

1030
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: And what I tell you, like I almost got was

1031
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: in tears because it's like now he's forever commemorated that

1032
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: moment with.

1033
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: The people who helped him get there.

1034
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: You know, as an Olympian, we know it's not us,

1035
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: it's everyone else who's making sacrifices pouring into us that

1036
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: helps us to be great. But we're the only ones

1037
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: that stand on the podium, you know, we're the ones

1038
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: that are that get to be out there. So for me,

1039
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 2: Coordinates is so much more than just a pajama line.

1040
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: It's like literally bringing families together, you know, supporting each other,

1041
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: like being in community, and like you.

1042
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: Know, like it's multi generational too, because you get grandma

1043
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: and grandpa, some we.

1044
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 4: Got the dogs. Everybody's included.

1045
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you mentioned family and

1046
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: not disrupting that. Some would beg to differ that your

1047
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: appearance on Housewives is the anti of that. How's that

1048
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: experience been for.

1049
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: You so and they would be right. But you know,

1050
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 4: so this is what I say about that.

1051
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like, for so long as an athlete,

1052
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: and I might get emotional, I feel like, so long

1053
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: as an athlete, you know, it's like you have all

1054
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 2: these goals and you put check marks on your board

1055
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: and you're just like like, you.

1056
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: Know, like I'm gonna do I'm gonna do it.

1057
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: And so for me, when Housewives came as an opportunity,

1058
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: it felt like that, like, oh, another box I get

1059
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: to check, you know. And as as much as I

1060
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: went in with the best of intentions getting and I

1061
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, we're going to show black love, We're

1062
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: gonna do all these things, I realized after two years

1063
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: that that space is not conducive to that. And so

1064
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: what I learned from that experience is that Sonya the athlete,

1065
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: all the things I learned, everything is not going to

1066
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: serve me in this next chapter of my life. I'm

1067
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: going to have to pull the good stuff and leave

1068
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 2: some of the stuff that only serve you as an.

1069
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: Athlete no more, know what I mean.

1070
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: And so I still counted all joy because for me,

1071
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: I feel like every experience in life teaches you something,

1072
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: and so it was a great experience. I learned a

1073
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: lot about myself. You know, I found my tribe inside

1074
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: the housewife tribe. You know, a lot of people who

1075
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: love on me and support me and never knew who

1076
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: I was, and they loved my family.

1077
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: So it was great.

1078
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: But to be honest, it was a really difficult space

1079
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: to be in because I realized now that I am,

1080
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: I love people. It's very hard for me to fight

1081
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: with people and to do all that stuff right.

1082
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: It is warranted because listen when needed, Okay.

1083
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 4: Right, I just I can't.

1084
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: I can't just do it just because because and relationships

1085
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: matter to me. I love people, and so it was

1086
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: a really hard space to navigate.

1087
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: As much as I tried to bring all of my.

1088
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: All of the goodness, I understand because when they came

1089
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: knocking at my door it was the same thing. I

1090
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I can exist in

1091
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: that space authentically at least, because that's a huge thing

1092
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: for Yeah, and that's the huge thing I think for us.

1093
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just I don't know if

1094
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: it's is Jamaican roots, I don't know what it is,

1095
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: but there's just this living and authenticity that just comes

1096
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: so easily, and even just with our platform, which I

1097
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: thank to you earlier in the show for just you know,

1098
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: loving on me and my family and in the space

1099
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: that we're in. You know, you never have to uphold

1100
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: the facade when you're living truthfully, you know, in your actual,

1101
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: realistic circumstance. And that's why Deval and I are so

1102
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: adamant that we can see we see it, you can

1103
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: feel that you're in the house. You know, you feel it,

1104
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: and that's what people when they do come here, they

1105
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: do experience us feel the same from you, and I

1106
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: really really thank you, Like I didn't realize how much

1107
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: more now I want to get emotional. This wasn't supposed

1108
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: to be the thing. I just didn't realize how much

1109
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: more we connect. Yeah, and it's it's it's hard to

1110
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: find that nowadays. You know, I was even talking to

1111
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: someone recently, like being down here in Georgia. You know,

1112
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: I don't really have anyone who I just hang with

1113
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: and just leisurely can say hey, come by with the kids.

1114
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, we have a couple of people here and there,

1115
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: But I do you know, think that we have so

1116
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 1: many similarities, so much in common. Our families would probably

1117
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: connect really well. So I think this could be the

1118
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: start of like a beautiful, you know, friendship situation you

1119
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: know a long time. Yeah, I'm saying exactly exactly, but

1120
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you can sit, even in a

1121
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: space like this where it was just supposed to be

1122
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: an interview, but then you feel like you connect with

1123
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: someone so kindred spirit baby, through and through, through and

1124
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: through and through and through. Thank you so much for

1125
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: your time. We're gonna this actually wouldn't end up going

1126
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: longer than I thought. But yeah, all right, y'ah, I

1127
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: know it's getting good, but we're going to take a

1128
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: quick break and get back to you right after this break.

1129
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: So typically on a dead Ass podcast episode, we'll do

1130
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: a listener letter where someone writes and we give them

1131
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 1: advice and all that stuff. But I have this burning

1132
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: question that I'm trying to ask you only because I

1133
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 1: know that we're on the precipice of what could be. Okay,

1134
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: So you've been holding this record for a very long time.

1135
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: Was it eighteen years to be exact, ten years? How

1136
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: do you feel about this year? Do you feel like

1137
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: your record is at risk of being broken?

1138
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: So Yes, I've held the American record for the four

1139
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 2: hundred for eighteen years, Yes, which is mind blowing for sure.

1140
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1141
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: I didn't think when I broke it at eighteen years

1142
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: ago that was staying the test of time. I thought

1143
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: I was on break it again, to be honest, right

1144
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: because it was so.

1145
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: Early in my career. That's a competitor, and you two

1146
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: always want until.

1147
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: I one up yourself break it like ten times after

1148
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: before I retired. But but it's just been a joy

1149
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: to have it. I do think that it is going

1150
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: to get broken very soon. My homeland makes it twenty years,

1151
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: so Sydney, just give me, give me.

1152
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: Two more years. So you're already putting out there this.

1153
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah Sydney, Yeah, Sidney, Sidney.

1154
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: The last race is so funny because my colleagues, so, Okay,

1155
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: here's the real deal.

1156
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: This is this give this is dead ass, this is transparent.

1157
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: The reality is is that I like when I see

1158
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: young people like a Sydney and she Cared, I see

1159
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: myself in them. So I know what it's like to

1160
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: want to like put records on your board, and so

1161
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 2: I feel like, yes, like that record has meant a

1162
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 2: lot to me. But records are meant to be broken,

1163
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: So I'm not sitting over here about.

1164
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: To be heartbroken for do you think that you're on

1165
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: Sydney's vision board with that record? Record is definitely on

1166
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: the board, Sidney write in you know as a listener,

1167
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: let us know, yes, that records on the board.

1168
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: And I mean the last race, I think she ran

1169
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: forty eight seventy five. My record is seventy so she

1170
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: was only five hundreds off the record.

1171
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: That means literally the lean right, sure, for sure.

1172
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: But I also think you know what it does is

1173
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: I and I are one of my colleagues. The other day,

1174
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: Kara Gaucha, who I love to death. She's an Olympian

1175
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 2: and world champion. She said to me, She's like sign

1176
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 2: and think about it. It's been eighteen years and no

1177
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: one has been able to run that fast. It tells

1178
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 2: you how good that record was when you rean it

1179
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: and there have been so many advancements and spikes and

1180
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 2: tracks and of course there's no goodness and it sounds

1181
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: like you know what, It really does give good perspective

1182
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: because some of the best athletes to ever compete in

1183
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: our sport have been chasing that record and they still

1184
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: haven't broken it, ye, So you know I'm gonna just

1185
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: keep that I like it, and then when it's gone,

1186
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: you know, I've been the second fastest woman to ever run.

1187
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: Hord darling to that horror and sitting it as long

1188
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: as you can, Okay, whether it's eighteen years, twenty or

1189
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: beyond exactly, thank you. So to round things out, we

1190
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: normally do a moment of truth. And instead of the

1191
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: moment of truth on a day with K I want

1192
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: you to tell me something that you're dead ass about. Oh.

1193
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I probably said it, but I'm

1194
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: dead as about my family. They don't mess with my family, man,

1195
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 2: And that's a.

1196
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Good man, and that's a good man. I love that.

1197
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: I love that so much. Thank you, Thank you for

1198
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: for you you did. Yes, it's going to be pulling

1199
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: up here in like two minutes. I cannot wait. I

1200
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: am surprised.

1201
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: I cannot so normally right, okay, And I can't believe

1202
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: that I came to the de Vows dead ass and

1203
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: and didn't bring y'all a pajama set because you guys.

1204
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: You know what now that I hit him about it

1205
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: of coordinate, Yes.

1206
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: You guys know, seriously, you guys are the epitome of

1207
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 2: what coordinates means. It's all about family. You guys take

1208
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: the dopest shots, like even like your pregnancy shot you

1209
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: had the blue and the belly was out in the

1210
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: gold and stuff like, yeah, you have inspiring the culture

1211
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: of it out there.

1212
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: You started the maternity family. Yes you did.

1213
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: You know you did for sure, Like when I was

1214
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: looking for inseration, like your picture was my little movie.

1215
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I love that. So it's on the way. I know

1216
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: we've been doing for a long time.

1217
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 2: So it might not be on the episode, but but

1218
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: and bringing a whole set for your.

1219
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Family, my goodness, I love Yeah.

1220
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: I hope you guys will love them.

1221
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: And I know I can't wait to say some photos

1222
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: in it too, just because I mean, that's going to

1223
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: be the US team.

1224
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: Yes, so the pajama of Choice, yes that is yes,

1225
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: So the pajama the Team USA collection means that we

1226
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: are the official pajama lounger parts of USA. So we

1227
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: have we're all of tam USA. So the track team

1228
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: has been totally outfitted. That's like, let me say what

1229
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 2: they said.

1230
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: It was so funny.

1231
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: So the athletes are coming in right and getting their

1232
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: tam Usa uniforms for the first time.

1233
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: Right, it is the first time they're seeing the designs.

1234
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 2: And then and then people was like where the pajamas at?

1235
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: It was so funny, like they were adorable.

1236
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: That's exciting. So you guys are going to be a

1237
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: love it. I love that for us. Thank you so much?

1238
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god? And where can everybody find you? For

1239
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: those of them? I mean you have to be under

1240
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: a rock for the past however many years if you

1241
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: don't know who this is. But where can people find

1242
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 1: you if they want to follow and see what's next?

1243
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: What's going on?

1244
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can follow me on social I am

1245
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: Sonya Richie ri I c hi Ross on all social platforms.

1246
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: So you know what I didn't talk to you about.

1247
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I came back and talk to you about it.

1248
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: I have a blog called mom Nation, okay, and we

1249
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: started the blog about five six years ago, and we

1250
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: focus on supporting black moms on their motherhood journey.

1251
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: And so we do all I think I do. Follow

1252
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: you guys, I do we have to do. We have

1253
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: to be more intentional about making sure we connect on

1254
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,439
Speaker 1: that level for sure.

1255
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: So if you follow mom Nation, you get to see

1256
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: and be a part of our community. We have our

1257
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: Mammation Gives where we help homeless moms and we do

1258
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: a lot of It's like my heart when I became mom,

1259
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't imagine what it's like for

1260
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: mothers who lack resources and support, and so I just

1261
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: want to keep doing my part to support moms. So

1262
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 2: follow nation, Yes, support nominations, graves, and then of course coordinate,

1263
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: said shot Cortness dot com.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I love that so much. Thanks y'all for

1265
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: joining us today. Such a treat just in time for

1266
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: the Olympics that are going to be in Paris. Girl,

1267
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: eat it chroissant for me. Yes, come to past, Come

1268
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: stay with me. Don't tell me what a good time.

1269
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: Because one thing that stay ready, baby, is that passport.

1270
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 4: A day with period Paris wrote it it.

1271
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: You can say, baby, stay tuned. There might be a

1272
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 1: part too this all right, all right, all right. And

1273
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: even though we did not get to listener letters today,

1274
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: we still have listener letters open and we're waiting for

1275
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: your emails. So if you want to be featured as

1276
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: a listener letter, be sure to email us at dead

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1280
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1281
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1282
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1283
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1284
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1285
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1286
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1287
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