WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Facing the Seahawks Defense 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:07.920 This he is talking Cowboys screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:17.800 dot Com, and the officials Dallas Cowboys asked no. Your hosts, 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:24.200 Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadens, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips, welcome 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:28.360 everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Thursday of 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.560 Seahawks week. Here at the start in Frisco and the 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.760 team for the third row in a week, third straight week. 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.920 Look at that, right, Yeah, we'll go there. You're gonna 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.239 have part on Thursday, you know that, guys. And so 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.920 they're practicing outside again. Yes, when winning streaks happen like that, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.440 you see things like this, and I know that there's 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:52.200 no superstitions they would ever say, but hey, I gotta 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.800 get ready for that indoor stadium this weekend. Right, climate's 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.200 a little better this weekend. I asked that question about 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.720 that one day. You asked that last week, But three 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.560 weeks ago I asked him about practice and outside any 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:09.400 week in a row, any commerce going on in Ford Center? Uh? 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:11.920 We we played. No, I don't know, I haven't looked. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.880 They rip off the times for practices and there's no parties. No, no, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.759 but yeah, that's what I'm saying, we had SMU play 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.040 last night, but they were using it. They were using 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.800 it during practice times for their bowl game. How about Frisco, 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.600 by the way, just real quick, this burgeoning metropolis that 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.920 we've got here, you got a bowl game playing just 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.559 down the streets called Frisco Bowl Game too. You gotta 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.200 respect that, now, did you guys catch it at all? 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.320 I saw SMU got off to a terrible start. I 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:37.920 saw the score in the second half. I was like, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.680 you gotta love sponsorship into football games because when they 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.560 went to go kick the field goals, up comes the 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.040 net Gil Dan with a giant Yeah. The like, okay, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.960 can just be Frisco Bowl Game, but you're gonna get 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.800 all your money from Gotta get it, gotta get it off. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.120 But no, All State does it. During the other bullet 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.240 Oh yeah right, they do it. But yeah, no the 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.520 outdoors again. I think Garrett was talking about it's just 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.280 two pretty good day, sixties seven degrees, right, Sonny, or 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.920 something was going on in the Ford side. No, they're on. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.480 They're on a superstitious role right now. Freak many that's 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.000 what he's doing. Streaked. He won't admit it, And I 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.760 asked him that I asked that question. I said, hey, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.760 you know creatures, I have it, you know this and that, 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.520 and he's no, no, no no, just taking an opportunity. You know. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.840 I even put the scoreboard up on the tower. Yeah, 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.720 they got to do their two minute drill today. Yeah, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:28.440 at twenty three twenty they're down. Yeah, they're down. Get 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.880 back field goal or a touchback. But from Jeff Heath, 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:36.320 no one, a walk off touch back here, we've never 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.040 seen that before. Well, guys, you're talking about this three 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.720 game win streak. Well it's time two feed zeke ezekiel 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.760 a practice four the first time yesterday. But we're still 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.160 watching other guys. DeMarcus Lawrence, you're newly minted pro bowler. Yeah, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.680 is most likely not going to practice today or not 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.080 do anything. But he's out there. Yeah, he's out there. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:59.200 That's a good that's a good sign. Went through the walkthrough. Yeah, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.680 just trying to manage him. I think, most likely to 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.560 get him to the game. Tough guy. I mean, if 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.800 he if he can play, he'll play. Oh absolutely. I 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:07.920 think a lot of people have kind of credited his 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.639 success this year to being fully healthy because they were 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.120 talking about, you know, at the end of the year 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.919 last year he was hanging on by a thread there. Yeah, 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.800 he really will. He had to have that surgery pretty 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.280 quickly into the offseason. He could have shut it down 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.360 October November, and just I think he felt bad that 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.799 he sat out four games suspended and said he owed 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.000 it to the team. That's leadership right there. Yeah, some 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.639 guys will shoot it down, shoot it down, shut it down, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.200 shut it down. They'll shut it down. Are you implying 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.960 somebody in particularly some guys will shut it down. I 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.880 just thought i'd asked my follow up question. Well, you 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:46.480 know we've talked about that. You are about Orlando Scandrick 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:51.240 possibly be being done the next two games and he's limited. Yeah, 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.760 he could return. Orlando Scandrick is Yeah, yesterday kind of 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.880 thinks he looks better, kind of got Whin died. He 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.160 was doing some scout team stuff. So that's a good 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:03.560 sign if if he's coming back in that way. You know, again, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.360 this time of year, it's all hands on deck. We 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.680 know that. I'm not telling anybody's something they already don't know, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.560 but you know they've got they've got some young guys 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.440 playing very well. I think he acknowledges that the young 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.520 guys are playing well, and you know, he's got to 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.360 get healthy and get back and contribute when he can. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.280 Hopefully it will be sooner than later. I think it's 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:26.599 highly questionable. Okay, Mickey's now taking the approach, and I 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.880 don't I don't disagree with him, though I was taking 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.200 I was taking the high road because everybody thinks that 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.719 I hate Scandrick. You know. Yeah, but you're a professional. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.039 I mean you're gonna try. Yeah, so wait, highly questionable 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.520 what to play to play? You don't think he's gonna play. No, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.600 if he doesn't play this week, he's not gonna play 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.760 the rest of the year. Yeah. That's just how I feel, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:48.000 which is fause I should have just went ahead and 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.599 said that. But then again, well yeah, but but it's 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:53.640 it's when I do this, it's like I'm being critical 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.000 of Scandrick and this is all I will be critical 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.160 of this though, I will say this, He is a captain, 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.920 you know, And this what bothers me about his captain's ship. 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.320 That the fact that that you know, if you're a captain, 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.440 you're looked at as a leader. You're looked at as 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:12.360 trying to help the team win, you know, And and 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.040 if if you can't go, you can't go. I get it. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.080 But if you look at also though the history of 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.120 this injury, you know, he plays a position where he 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.120 doesn't have to play every single play. He's not getting attacked. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:28.320 Quarterbacks have come back and they play every single play. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.360 I question though, the captaincy. That's what I'm doing. How 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.880 I think that if a guy like Barry Church was 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:36.880 a captain last night? I think Barry Church Barry Church 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.240 trying to play with a broken forearm, you know. Basically. Yeah, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.760 So I'm just trying to say, is that I'm a 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.599 little that that's upsetting to me that you know, you're 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.160 fighting for your lives right now, and to to just 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:55.360 I'm taking Mickey's point and going a little further with it. Yeah, 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.680 that that to me, you know, I I you know, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.080 get out there, try and help do what you have 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.360 to do. But you don't think that he showed enough 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.440 to the team because they're the ones who voted on it. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.520 That that's that's now that you have to That's another 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:13.719 that's another question, another conversation for another. That's a that's 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.840 a bunch of lemonade down the road. But this is 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:20.160 what I'm captains to me, do whatever they take to show. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.839 Now you could say, oh, he had the hand injury 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.880 and all that, and he played through that, granted that 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.640 great job. And I think that we've been very complimentary 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.440 of him when he's played. Well. Kansas City game, I 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.400 thought he was outstanding. Yeah, but they need you now, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.480 you know they And Rob said that, I think you 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:41.680 said this yesterday. His point was veterans. You want veterans 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:43.840 on the field when things are going. You know, when 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.440 things are happening. You know this is not going to 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.440 be an easy game because just from the fact that 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.479 they're there, that the way the Seahawks play and scramble 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.240 drills and guys running all the place, you better have 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.240 veteran players on the field that are going to make plays. Yeah, yep. 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.479 And so that bothers me that aspect of passing yards 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.640 that Russell Wilson has had to have it in a season, 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.760 and a lot of it is because who's said he 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.000 threw the ball five hundred times. I believe I'm right, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.680 run the ball, yeah, throwing it everywhere. So if you 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.960 can get your secondary nice and feel okay, we've got 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.440 this covered, you know, maybe this guy's a little beat up, 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.600 but at least we have depth. Yeah, it's a reason 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.840 why they're throwing it as much as they are. They 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.480 have to. If he if he could help it playing 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.480 right corner, I would have hope that he would have 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.760 been out there. And again I, hey, well he's got 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.360 a back injury. I get it, broken bones, I get it. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:36.680 But there's also you know, what are you doing? I mean, 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:38.560 is it? How important is it really to you to 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.280 do that? But is it? I mean, I guess I'm 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.560 gonna play a devil's advocate here. You can't feel free? 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.720 Is it all up to him? I mean, how much 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.040 of it is is the training staff and the medical 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.320 that look at him and say last week and just 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.920 say you're not there yet to where you can function 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.880 out there. He doesn't want to hurt the team either 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.440 if he's out there and he really can't. It's one 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.200 of those weird function the way he normally does. It's 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.040 one of those weird injuries though, because they have to 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.240 listen to him. Yeah, it's like a you know, you 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.640 can test the strength of a hamstring and say, you know, 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.600 I think you're we can let you do this right, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.760 But with this particular injury, it's not like he's got 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.680 bones crumbling in his back and they're loose. That's just 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.080 got a crack in them. Oh but you can watch him. 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.600 Well yeah, but you can control what you do and 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.920 what you say. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Well, we'll see. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.679 I appreciate you being because I'm the one of the 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.200 panel that is always on him. I just well, I 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.319 just think and and I'm not trying to be that way. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.640 I'm just trying to say, these games it's come down 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.199 to you need everybody playing. And if he would have 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.760 come out and say I can't play it's too painful, 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.400 I respect that, because he did show up and play 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.880 with a busted hand, I respect that. But you know, 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.520 you you brought up the point. These these young kids 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.680 out there playing, and God bless them, they're playing the 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.079 best they can, but it would be nice to have 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.240 somebody with some experience playing in this game. Did his 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.079 face these receivers? Secondary? I want Orlando Scandrick on the 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.600 field against Russell Wilson if at all possible. Yeah, I 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.559 just want to point out he's played through some stuff. 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.640 I mean he did last year. He had a bunch 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:16.679 of kind of nagging stuff that that he tried to 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.800 play through last year coming off the knee injury. So 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.480 then that's kind of why I'm asking why not. Now 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.559 that's my point, Well, because we have seen him show 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.800 up and play, are we for certain that you say 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.880 highly questionable? I'm not just ruling him out this week yet. 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:37.120 It's just the I don't know, my perception. I don't know, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.760 just kind of listening and watching, and that you're usually 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.520 not wrong with your perceptions on that. I just just 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.439 kind of what I get. You know, that's a good 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.920 sign he got out there and did something. But though, yeah, 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.840 but the stuff you just said is valid what he 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.800 did before, Yeah, but that was before three rookies are 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.000 out there and yeah, kind of playing, playing dominant roles 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.560 and yeah, playing pretty well. Yeah see that's that's again 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.520 the captaincy ship. To me, what games has Skendrick missed 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.920 the past two last two years? So he missed the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:16.720 Raiders and then he missed the Goshrooms Giants, So I mean, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:18.920 you know, you're looking at the quarterbacks he got okay, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.559 who was the Giants? He couldn't throw to anyone. Sterling 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.560 Shephard was questionable up until game time. Derek Carr. You know, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.839 he was trying to get his receivers going. But now 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.920 you have someone, you know, as Mickey's pointed out, the 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.640 passing quarterback Russell Wilson, guy who scrambles can get anything 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.920 to anyone down the field. These corners need that help 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.160 in it. You could have used it last week, got 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.680 it rolling in the second half. You do not want Yeah, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.520 you do not want to see fifty five yard pass 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:47.960 interference penalties be given up in this game. You do 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.560 not want to see fifty five yard completions. And that's 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.680 what I'm saying with Scandrick though, if he played, you know, 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.000 maybe you don't get a guy that's peeking in the 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.240 backfield or loses his guy or knows hay coverage. I mean, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.160 he's gonna play his assignment. He's gonna do what he 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.520 has to exactly see. That's that's where Rob's point was 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:09.240 well made yesterday, and I am I totally agree with that. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.320 But I'm just saying, you know what, just because young 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.320 kids are playing with me, I'm trying. I'm thinking of 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.520 the team. I'm thinking of, Hey, what is our best 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.760 chance to win this football game? You know, and it's 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:25.320 getting your best players out on the field, and you know, 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.760 and and and Mickey is Mickey has kind of throwing 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.480 something out there that is absolutely correct. Well, I hear you. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.560 But on the other hand, David Irving is giving his 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.800 own update on his health. Of course, he has been outcussion, 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.400 but he took to Twitter and said, mentally, I'm fine. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.160 I'm still having headaches every day. It's hard to put 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.440 a finger on how long I'll be out. I'm taking 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:52.640 it day by day. Well does mentally that doesn't encompass headaches. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.439 That's the mind, isn't it. I don't know. Well, is 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.160 he referencing like those cognitive type of tests that I 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:05.040 think he's saying, I recognize stuff. I see, I'm not 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.800 but I'm still having nicky Nicky said it again yesterday. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.560 The answer that Jason Garrett gave on that was he's 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:16.240 not he's not responding correctly to the questions he's being asked. Yeah, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:20.640 that is it. Once you say, hey, well David, I 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.760 don't know what the questions are, but you know, once 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.240 and he gives some answer, you're like, WHOA, that's not good, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:28.959 and it's better and it's it's a little more deeper 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.360 than how many fingers do I have like they used 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.880 to in the old days, And the answer was always 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.960 the same. Yeah, these doctors and trainers do a great 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.280 job here and they're not going to let anybody play 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.560 that's not ready to play. Right. Well, we all maybe 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.679 that should say about Scandrick too, So do we have 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:48.120 any And no one's really asked um what they thought 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.640 of how Ashes filled in these last couple of games. Well, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.160 while we're still on injuries, let's get to Tyrn Smith 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.280 because we're talking about guys we definitely need out there. Yeah, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.000 and he's not expected to practice again and today this 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.120 is Tyren Smith, five time pro bowler. Now what do 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.000 we think about this week? Is is it still just 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.880 an outside you're throwing up their brain? Oh no, I'll 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.320 let Rob comment if he wants to, real quick or Mickey, 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.520 I'm worried about this one. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.040 I've talked too much as is. No. I mean, you know, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.040 I think I think sometimes these injuries pique other discussions. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.400 I wish I I just can I say this, I'd 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.480 be surprised I entered the week being I'd be surprised 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.800 if he practiced it all this week. Doesn't mean that 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.040 necessarily he couldn't try to give it a go pregame, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:35.040 but you know, nice brain, and given the other stuff 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:36.760 he's had, I just don't see them trying to put 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.640 him on the field for a bunch of practice snaps 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.840 and is he even ready to get out there and function? 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.240 I thought I thought Jason didn't understand Todd's question when 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:47.600 he asked about him and a brace. Yeah, I thought 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.480 what Todd was saying, I know he's hurt. Can he 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.400 play with a brace? Can you brace it up and 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.040 he'll be okay? And I think Jason was interpreted it 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:01.200 as shitty, wear a brace all the time and prevent injuries. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.840 And I think that wasn't the question because that's what 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.640 I thought. It's like, hey, tape a brace on there 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.040 and tell him to do the Michael Irvin thing and 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.600 stand for three seconds. Yeah, that's all I need out 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.080 of you. Three seconds? Yeah, I think to me, and 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.400 this is just me my matchups today going up on 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.880 Dallas Cowboys dot com, I wrote about I wrote about 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.880 Byronbell playing against Frank Clark. That's what I did. Well, 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.040 It's good to know that because if that's most likely 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.000 going to be the situation you better be prepared. Yeah, 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.440 you better be and you know and and hey, you've 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.240 you know, we've you know, coach even talked about some 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.400 of the stuff on the walk off with Jonathan Cooper 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.440 and how they've improved in that area as well. You're 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.840 gonna need you're gonna need one of your best games 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.120 against from from Byron Beell. You are, he's a veteran guy. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.240 He's been in through these battles. You know, this is 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.560 very similar to the kind of cat he dealt with 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.800 last week with Bruce Irving, you know, quickness, but maybe 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.480 with this guy a little bit more power, So you know, 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.480 be ready for that. But they've got a find ways 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.840 to help him. You can't let it be a sixty 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.360 five play game and all of a sudden five plays 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.160 affect how you how you win this game or lose 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:14.240 this game. Yeah, exactly, So be prepared for the twelve personnel, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.680 thirteen personnel, Hey, number twenty one, get to chip a 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.360 little bit this week, you know, go hit somebody. You know, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:20.880 that's some of the stuff is going to have to 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:23.440 happen in this football game with Byron Bell playing left 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.520 tackle or at least run right at him. Make him. Yeah, now, 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.680 This is where Mickey's absolutely right, and this is where 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.640 I put it in my thoughts. Number One thing, he's 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.120 not playing in Seattle right now, which is good. Crowd 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.920 noise is huge there. We all know that you guys 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.920 all experienced the crowd there. That's gonna help Barron Bell. 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:46.520 A second thing is Cowboys running game. That will help 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.040 him even more. Pound at him, pound at him, pound 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.920 at him. Keep running the football. We've seen it with Jacksonville, 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.640 We've seen it with the Rams. Use your running game 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.800 to slow their rush down. That's on both sides. That's 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.200 on both side, mean both defensive ends. Slow their defense down. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.320 Don't turn this into a game where you're having the throw. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.240 If that turns into that, then you're in trouble. Yeah, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.200 we all know the rushing yards were huge for the 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.280 Rams past week, But what were the rushing yards when 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:16.120 the Jags the same thing they had. Jaguars rushed as 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.600 a team for one hundred and fifty six right four 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.800 NET had one oh one and touchdowns. So basically they've 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.160 given up four hundred yards in the last two games 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:29.440 rushing two hundred and fifty three two girly and four 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.080 NET and four rushing touchdowns. Wow, I got a stat 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.920 for you from the Seattle is News tribute. Is it 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.240 Pete Carroll's one hundred yard rushers? Yeah, okay, they haven't 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.600 allowed one hundred yard rusher in three straight games since 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.400 two thousand and six. Yeah, that's pre Carroll, right, that's 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.960 pretty Carol, right, I mean, that's that's right, that's right. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.240 So that's what they're facing right now. And Pete Carroll 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.920 spoke to it in the conference call upstairs with the 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.400 media yesterday. This has been like a playoff type run. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.080 They faced some really good running games, some really good offenses, 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.080 and they've just tried to, you know, withstand it, and 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:02.960 they know exactly what they're up against this week, and 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.679 it's it's Zeke. Oh hey, this is a this is 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.000 for sure a playoff elimination game for both teams this week. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:10.879 And if you have to give up Christmas Eve, at 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.520 least you're at home and at least you got a 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:16.840 game to watch and you have Ezekiel Elliott back. Yep. Yeah, 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.280 but they're having they're having some injury problems themselves. They are, right, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:25.200 j right, Yes, they're a banked us now. Supposedly he's fine, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.639 Bobby Wagner's trying to play through a hamstring, right, and 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.960 it's almost like Sean Lee being out right. I read 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:37.120 something like when they've allowed sixty seven points since he 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:41.280 hurt in the last five quarters, since he hurt his hamstring. 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:43.480 Now he tried to play through it last week, I 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.560 got questioned by his own game, questioned by Harold Thomas. Right, 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.919 we could have done that Eddy yourself. Man, we got 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.199 Hawkeye coming up in the second segment. Well, I'm just 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.160 I'll preview what Hawkeye needs to be talking about. Then 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:58.000 you tell us, tell us, I thought you wanted to 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:02.000 talk about Richard Ash next. No, yeah, yeah, lots to 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.640 talk about. But when they start snipping at each other 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.159 in the in the media, you got problems. Oh well, 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.120 we got it all laid out for you. So get 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:10.919 into Richard Ash. What was your question on that? Oh, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:12.920 I want to know how he's played. I think Richard 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.120 Ash has been okay. I don't think there's anything really 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.359 spectacular about Richard Ashe. I worried about Richard Ashe when 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.160 he got the role of being not very active, just 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.480 being very sluggy, very just hanging there and this kind 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.080 of get blocked. He's not David Irving. He's not David 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.680 kind of player. No, he's a totally different player. But 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.199 but what you what you get with Richard Ash is 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:36.360 he's given you a little bit of mobility. That's the thing. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.400 I love the fact when when Malie Collins can play 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.879 the one and David Irvin can play the three. I 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:44.520 like it. But I liked it even better when Terrell 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.240 McClain played the three and Collins played the one. But 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.920 you know, with with Ash, I just worried about him 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.320 being a guy that was constantly getting blocked. Yeah, and 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.720 it hasn't always been the case. Is he is he 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.360 Is he the most athlet No he's not. But does 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.200 he give you something the inside though, where he gives 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.359 you the ten fifteen plays where you can give somebody 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.320 a little bit of rest and he's not killing you. Now, 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:10.159 Mickey will tell you this, and he's right about this. 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.040 When they put those guys in at the ten yard 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.120 line coming out and all of a sudden the ball 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.240 gets driven, well, you know it's not all Richard Ash 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:19.879 but he's on the field for some of that. But 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:23.520 I'm just saying, though he hasn't been as just like 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.399 a just a fence post out there. Yeah, you know 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:29.320 he's he's shown a little mobility, he's shown a little 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.520 bit of awareness, and that's really, I think what you 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.760 have to hope for before we go to break. Mickey 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:38.000 Richard ash is absent from Cowboys practice today. What happened 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.000 Iron Smith, Richard ash and David Irvine where the Cowboys 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.399 only absentees at practice on Thursday? Lyle Collins to Marcus 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:47.600 Lawrence in Orlando, Skendrick All on hand and working through 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.880 warm ups. Now they were they were using him at 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.680 the one at the one at the one of Collins over. Yeah, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.360 he practiced. Yes, there might be a sickness here, you know, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.600 it might be yes, but yeah, it might be a 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.240 little bit of a bug. But he I know, he 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:05.480 practiced full yesterday. So and I ask you real quick 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.360 how Dayton Jones has done. See that's a little bit different. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.960 You know, he had the penalty what coach was talking 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.920