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Speaker 2: Tim and Jeff kirchhin thank you for coming back to listen.

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Speaker 2: This is our third episode, second week of the baseball season.

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Speaker 2: Coming up this weekend will be The Masters. So naturally

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Speaker 2: we needed to find arguably one of the best baseball

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Speaker 1: So we have John Small's Hall of Fame baseball pitcher

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Speaker 1: joining us later. Right, Hall of Fame pitcher.

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Speaker 3: And he's got eleven holes in one and he's gonna

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Speaker 3: tell us all about playing with Tiger and pitching to Tiger.

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Speaker 3: Don't miss that.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to that. We're gonna talk a

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Speaker 2: a no hitter happens in Major League Baseball. So we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk a little bit about that. We're gonna open

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Speaker 2: up a deck of cards. We're gonna do a lot,

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Speaker 2: But first I want to read some comments from some

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Speaker 2: great people who have been listening. A big shout out

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Speaker 2: to Michael, who says, I want to thank Tim for

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Speaker 2: being the voice of all goodness of baseball since my childhood.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't like being complimented, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna rifle through these. Okay, Warren says, tell your dad,

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Speaker 2: there's nobody on Earth I would rather sit next to

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Speaker 2: on a cross country flight.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's because I'm really small. I'll be in the middle.

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Speaker 2: Seed Cody, he said, he's a diehard Mariners fan. If

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Speaker 2: w'erever in Missoula, Montana, they could go to a Paddleheads game.

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Speaker 2: He's offering you a ticket, food, even if a T shirt,

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Speaker 1: That's his word.

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Speaker 3: Look, I grew up in minor league baseball my first

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Speaker 3: two years of covering. Nobody loves minor league baseball more

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Speaker 2: Shout out Seattle Stu, another big Mariners fan, Allan says

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Speaker 2: he loves Jeff and Tim's on air compatibility, while a

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Speaker 2: little does he know this is all just for the cameras,

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Speaker 2: all for the microphones.

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Speaker 1: We don't even speak after we're done here.

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Speaker 2: Fernando said, I'm nineteen minutes into episode one and still

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Speaker 1: Riv She said.

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Speaker 2: Mayor Sean Casey nailed the first pitch for the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Reds game, and they're on fire starting their season, and

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Speaker 2: that got me kind of down a rabbit hole. On

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Speaker 2: great first pitches thrown by celebrities, and I looked up.

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Speaker 2: One of the worst ones would be all in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: Mark Mallory, Oh, the mayor, the worst ever. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: to have a mayor Sean Casey kind of, I guess

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Speaker 2: improve upon Mark Mallory's performance a lot better.

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Speaker 3: John Wall terrible one, the fastest guy I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: Baseball at all. Not its fault he never played growing up.

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Speaker 1: What about fifty cent?

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Speaker 3: Oh that was he didn't he hit somebody in a

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how bad is thro? Yeah? Could you name a

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Speaker 3: Jeff, You know how bad I am with music, especially

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Speaker 1: I have zero chance of naming a fifty cent song.

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Speaker 2: The other day, you called him two quarters. I said,

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Speaker 2: that's that's not his name. I did print out just

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Speaker 2: a small blurb from his song Into Club, and I

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Speaker 2: was wondering if you could just read it for everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's highlighted in yellow. Yeah, grab your readers.

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Speaker 2: This is fifty cent Into Club, as read by Tim

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Speaker 2: Kirkshin Club da Club.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, please go shaughty.

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Speaker 3: It's your birthday. We're gonna party like it's your birthday.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna slip a cardy, like it's your birthday and

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Speaker 3: you don't know, and you know, we don't give a crap.

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Speaker 3: It's not your birthday.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? It's go, shorty, it's your birthday.

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Speaker 1: We gonna party like it's your birthday, Am I shorty?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm my four and a half.

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Speaker 2: Well, as you can see, I substituted the word crap

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Speaker 1: Bad All right, gotcha, gotcha? So let's let's get into baseball.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that it's now a while ago, but

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Speaker 3: So here, Roger Clements never threw no hitter. Greg Maddox

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Speaker 3: And of course the last one was in the World

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Speaker 1: Boring game I've ever been to. And I mean, she's

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Speaker 3: I had to say, Emily, Look, there's been only one

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Speaker 3: editors at ESPN dot com, get this. His wife Dana

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Speaker 3: Now, that game and when Josh Beckett pitched a no

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Speaker 1: Five games, two no hitters, forty percent of the game

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Speaker 2: Have I told you my other favorite no hitter story?

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Speaker 2: Michael Lorenzen threw a no hitter for the Phillies on

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Speaker 2: my thirtieth birthday. That's not the important part. The important

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Speaker 3: Well again, I've covered seven no hitters. The first one

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Speaker 3: And I told you that I batted against Bob Feller

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Speaker 3: I got a certificate that said I batted against Bob Feller,

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Speaker 1: Ways to listen. But we do an on this date

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Speaker 2: Be listening not on this date, but it's a very

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Speaker 3: Today, April eighth, nineteen seventy four, Hank Aaron hit home

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Speaker 3: run number seven fifteen. This is the fiftieth anniversary of

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Speaker 3: I remember I was sitting in our wreck room with Pop,

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Speaker 3: Peter Gammons for Today's Peter Gammons or April ninth is

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Speaker 3: No one knows more about my team than I do,

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Speaker 3: The beat writer for the Boston Red Sox knew more

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Speaker 1: But that's who Peter was.

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Speaker 3: So a few years ago, I went to the Braves

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Speaker 1: I've been reading you, I've been watching you for years.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to see you, Peter. So he.

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Speaker 3: Thought I was Peter Gammons, and it was the greatest

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Speaker 2: We want to get into our quirk Gins. Don't forget

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Speaker 1: That's coming up. But let's get into our quirk Gins now.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I'm gonna need my glasses for this one, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: As you know, are all the quirky things that I

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Speaker 2: You are a sad, strange little man. This is what

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Speaker 3: Jeff Frank is way more important in my life than

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Speaker 1: The other thing we didn't get to, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: The one thing that I watch every year is teams

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Marlins have really good pitching, but they got

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Speaker 1: But you got to keep in mind, Jeff, who you're

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Speaker 3: I covered the nineteen eighty eight Baltimore Orioles, who lost

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Speaker 1: To start the season. The previous record was fourteen.

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Speaker 3: So the story there is that Frank Robinson, the manager

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Speaker 3: Frank takes the writers out to dinner after lost like

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Speaker 1: So I said Frank was a big kidder. So I

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Speaker 3: He said, Frank, I know what you're going through. And

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Speaker 1: Idea what I'm going through. So we always root for.

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Speaker 3: Teams get off the schneide and win a game early,

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Speaker 2: it as a kid, So we're going to do It's

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Speaker 2: in the Cards. Next, we're going to revisit our sackfly tracker.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put my dad to the test with League

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Speaker 2: in the Lid where we pull out a random team

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Speaker 2: and he has to tell.

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Speaker 1: A story about it.

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Speaker 2: And then of course we're talking to Hall of Famer

449
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Speaker 2: John Smoltz here on it is this a great game?

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Speaker 1: Or what? It's in the cards?

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Speaker 4: On?

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Speaker 2: Is this a great game or what? Quickly becoming my

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Speaker 2: favorite part of the show because we're opening baseball cards.

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Speaker 1: It's like a childhood dream.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: I love that so much as a kid, and I

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Speaker 3: still love doing it today.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So first up, Eachi row Susuki card from

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Speaker 2: Tops Easy Okay, first ballot Hall of Famer, an amazing

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Speaker 2: hitter and one of the best defensive right fielders I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen.

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Speaker 3: Jeff He hit a bouncing ball in a major league

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Speaker 3: game and hit a line drive up the middle on

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Speaker 3: a ball that hit before home played.

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Speaker 1: I called Pat Gillick.

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Speaker 3: The general manager of the Mariners, the next day, and

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Speaker 3: I said, what was that?

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Speaker 1: And he goes, oh, he used to practice that in

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Speaker 1: Japan all the time.

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Speaker 3: He practiced hitting a bouncing ball just in case it

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Speaker 3: ever came up.

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Speaker 1: In a major league game.

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Speaker 3: So keep in mind, each in his third game of

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Speaker 3: his major league career, got his career batting average. His

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Speaker 3: career batting average over three hundred in his third major

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Speaker 3: league game, and it never dipped below three hundred at

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Speaker 3: any point on any day.

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Speaker 1: For the rest of his career. That's how great a

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Speaker 1: hitter Each Row was.

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Speaker 3: And he really loved his bats. No one was ever

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Speaker 3: allowed to touch his bats, and he never threw his

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Speaker 3: bat down if he made it out because his bat

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Speaker 3: was his most important thing. And he once said that

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Speaker 3: a great carpenter, not like I would know anything about this,

485
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Speaker 3: never throws his favorite hammer around. He protects it, he

486
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Speaker 3: nourishes it. That's how he took care of his bats.

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Speaker 3: Eduardo prez Our dear friend Tolbey stole one of each

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Speaker 3: Row's bats and like brought it into a game.

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Speaker 1: Each Row was not pleased that anyone would touch his bats.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing, Jeff, is that Bobby Valentine and

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Speaker 3: told me that each Row was a mathematical genius, Like

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Speaker 3: he could go into an elevator and look at all

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Speaker 3: the buttons of the floor numbers on the right side

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Speaker 3: and count them up in his head in like three seconds,

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Speaker 3: and he would go two hundred and forty eight.

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Speaker 1: And Bobby went like this, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And Bobby thinks one reason each Row was such a

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Speaker 3: great outfielder is he had a mathematical geometric mind where

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Speaker 3: he could see where the ball was going because he

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Speaker 3: understood the angles of the field.

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Speaker 1: He could see a ball go.

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Speaker 3: Up in the air and go, that's going to end

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Speaker 3: up here, and he would run a direct route to it.

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Speaker 1: Each Row fascinating player.

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Speaker 2: Next up in the pack, it's a Tyler O'Neill card. Dad,

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Speaker 2: Can I take this one?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Take it.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this on the podcast. Five years in

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Speaker 2: a row on opening Day he has hit a home.

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Speaker 1: Run, right, That's incredible.

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Speaker 3: That's the history of baseball. No one's ever done. That's

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Speaker 3: why baseball is so great, Jeff. No greatest stat in

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Speaker 3: the history of the NBA isn't done by you know,

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Speaker 3: anyone other than Michael Jordan, Lebron James and Will Chamberlain.

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Speaker 3: But guys who aren't the greatest players of the world

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Speaker 3: have done stuff that no one else in the history

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 1: Sport has ever done.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any Barry Larkin stories. That's the next

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Speaker 2: card we pulled out, and I love this card.

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Speaker 1: If you don't.

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Speaker 2: Follow us on YouTube, you can actually watch us open

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Speaker 2: the cards and see the cards as well.

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Speaker 1: Great game or what.

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Speaker 2: Just search it on YouTube because he's walking his dogs

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Speaker 2: in this car right well.

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Speaker 1: Barry, of course is the Hall of Fame shortstop.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the maybe six greatest shortstops of

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Speaker 3: all time. But I did a little research on this

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Speaker 3: and I think I'm right about this. His son, Shane

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Speaker 3: played in the NBA, and when you look at a

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Speaker 3: at a baseball playing father and a basketball playing son,

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Speaker 3: this is the greatest father son one plays baseball, one

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Speaker 3: plays NBA basketball of all time.

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Speaker 1: The Larkins, Barry and Shane Larkin. And they gave my

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Speaker 1: Syracuse Orange a hard time. Shane did, so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to talk any further on that.

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Speaker 2: Here's Bobby Witt Junior. I like this card a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's got kind of an architectural design to it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, Bobby Witt is going to end up being, I

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Speaker 3: believe early on a Hall of Fame shortstop someday. Jeff combination, power, speed,

543
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Speaker 3: and understanding of what he's doing. Of course, his dad

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Speaker 3: is Bobby Witt, who pitched in the major leagues for

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Speaker 3: years and threw really, really hard. And he just signed

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Speaker 3: Bobby Wit Junior like a two hundred and seventy million

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Speaker 3: dollar contract, and his dad served as his agent. If

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Speaker 3: I served as you.

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Speaker 1: Your agent, I don't know what we're getting any.

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Speaker 2: There close to we might get twenty seven thousand dollars. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know the story of my agent when I started

552
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Speaker 2: in radio. So, Mom, your your wife was my agent.

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Speaker 2: She's a former lawyer, and it was really tough when

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Speaker 2: I had to fire her to hire my current agent.

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Speaker 2: This is a real I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing a bit.

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Speaker 2: I had to tell her, Mom, you just don't have

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Speaker 2: the connections in the industry I'm looking for. And last,

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Speaker 2: but not least for it's in the cards here. We've

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Speaker 2: got a Houston Ash's card here. Framber Valdez. Yeah, Framber

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Speaker 2: Valdez is one of the best pictures in the game.

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Speaker 2: He has a tremendous curveball, he's got a tremendous sinker.

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Speaker 2: He's grounded in a double play waiting to happen.

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Speaker 3: But what fascinates me about him, Jeff is I saw

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Speaker 3: him a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: He's left handed.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he was playing long toss in the outfield

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Speaker 3: and he was throwing with his right hand. And you

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Speaker 3: know how much I love ambidexterity. How can one of

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Speaker 3: the best pictures in the major leagues be left handed

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Speaker 3: and throws can also throw right handed. I'd give my

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Speaker 3: right arm to be ambidextrous. It's unbelievable how well he

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Speaker 3: throws at baseball. And I have a million ambidextra stories

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Speaker 3: which we won't get into today, but one of the

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Speaker 3: best left handed pitchers in baseball can also throw a

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Speaker 3: baseball eighty five miles an hour with his right hand.

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Speaker 2: Listen, Dad, as a new dad, when you land a

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Speaker 2: great dad joke like that, I'd give my right arm

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Speaker 2: to be ambidextriss.

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Speaker 1: You have to give us time to respond.

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Speaker 2: You said it too quickly, and you're supposed to get

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Speaker 2: it right away.

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Speaker 1: I did, but I didn't have time to laugh or

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Speaker 1: compliment it. I love dad jokes.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's it's in the cards this week.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to be put to the test again? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So this is a we started this last week on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. It's called The League in the Lid.

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Speaker 2: So I've taken every single all thirty major league teams.

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Speaker 2: Now we took out the Cincinnati Reds because we talked

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Speaker 2: about them last week. If you're a Reds fan, go

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Speaker 2: back to episode two and listen, because Dad's going to

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Speaker 2: be put to the test of his favorite story about

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Speaker 2: insert team here when I pulled them out.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? Okay, all right, here we

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Speaker 1: go The League in the Lid. Ah, this is an

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Speaker 1: easy one. What New York Yankees? Oh, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I joked about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how this segment's gonna go, But the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: I got lucky two weeks in a row, the Reds

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Speaker 3: first week, and yeah, now the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's no way around this.

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Speaker 3: The Yankees are the greatest franchise in the history of

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Speaker 3: professional sports.

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Speaker 1: They have won twenty seven World Series.

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Speaker 3: They have the record for the most consecutive seasons above

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Speaker 3: five hundred. Thirty nine straight years the Yankees finished over

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Speaker 3: five hundred. The next longest streak is also by the Yankees,

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Speaker 3: and it is a current active streak thirty one years.

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Speaker 3: The next longest streak by any team after that is

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Speaker 3: eighteen by the Orioles. So it just shows you how

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Speaker 3: dominant the Yankees have been. Thirty nine thirty one, they're

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Speaker 3: the record holders, and the next is eighteen. No other

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Speaker 3: team has ever come close to that level of streak

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Speaker 3: above five hundred. That's how great the Yankees are. And

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be I'm gonna put myself out there. Here's

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Speaker 3: the seven greatest Yankees of all time. We'll go over

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Speaker 3: this some other time. Babe in order, Babe, Ruth lou

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Speaker 3: gerrig Mickey Mannle, Joe DiMaggio, Yogi Bearra, Derek Jeter, Marianna Rivera,

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Speaker 3: Whitey Ford. Those are the eight greatest Yankees of all time.

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Speaker 3: And no team, no team in the history of baseball

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Speaker 3: can can put up eight guys that comes close to

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Speaker 3: matching those.

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Speaker 1: I notice you hesitated a little bit before, Jeter.

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Speaker 2: Is that because you were debating Mariana Mariano or.

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Speaker 3: Look I think the top five is unassailable. You can't

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Speaker 3: go anywhere else other than Ruth Gerrig Mantle, DiMaggio and

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Speaker 3: Yogi Bert.

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Speaker 1: That's my feeling, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we have jo John smolt excuse me, coming up.

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Speaker 2: He is an amazing golfer, and we have the Masters

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Speaker 2: coming up this weekend, so he's the perfect guest to

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Speaker 2: have on. We're gonna talk golf with John Smoltz. He

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Speaker 2: has eleven hole in ones. We're gonna ask him about them,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, you and I have you even come close?

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Speaker 2: I think I think the closest that came was about

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Speaker 2: eight inches, is the best shot I've ever made.

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Speaker 3: No, I've never had a hole in one. John Smoltz

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Speaker 3: is gonna tell us about the hole on one that

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Speaker 3: he had on a par four. But Jeff, I've always

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Speaker 3: loved I loved the game of golf, and there are

642
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Speaker 3: so many similarities between golf and baseball. To me, they're

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Speaker 3: the two hardest games in the world to play, baseball

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Speaker 3: being one, golf being two, and baseball players love to

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Speaker 3: play golf. And because the swings are.

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Speaker 1: Similar, mindset is similar, hand eyes similar.

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Speaker 3: And there's so many great amazing golf stories out there,

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Speaker 3: so Jim Cott, Hall of Fame pitcher Jim Cott.

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Speaker 1: This is a true story. He confirmed it. He at

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Speaker 1: age eighty.

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Speaker 3: He shot his age twice in one week, so he's eighty.

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Speaker 3: So he broke eighty twice.

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Speaker 1: In one week. But here's the thing, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: He did it playing left handed one time, and the

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Speaker 3: next time he did it playing right handed.

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Speaker 2: So Jill, I'd give up my right arm to me,

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Speaker 2: but extras also, you'd also give up your right arm

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Speaker 2: to shoot seventy eight.

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Speaker 3: He did it left handed and right handed in the

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Speaker 3: same week.

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Speaker 1: The best of all the active.

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Speaker 3: Players is Aaron Hicks, who's now with the Angels. He's

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Speaker 3: been playing since he was five years old. Apparently he

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Speaker 3: hits it off the end of the world. He plays

665
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Speaker 3: all the time in the offseason. He rarely plays during

666
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Speaker 3: the season because he doesn't want to.

667
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Speaker 1: Make it look bad. Hey, I played golf today and

668
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: then I have a good game tonight. But he's probably

669
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Speaker 1: the best. Jeff McNeil of the Mets is really good too.

670
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: In fact, Buck Showalder had a little putting pitching green

671
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: put out beyond the center field fence in spring training.

672
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: So when Jeff McNeil got a little bit bored. He

673
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: could go out there and.

674
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Speaker 3: Putt and chip in between ground balls at batting practice.

675
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Speaker 3: Brandon ch who you've never heard of, but I love

676
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: Brandon Inch. Andy vance Like told me that Brandon Inge

677
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: hits a golf ball farther than any person he's ever

678
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: seen in.

679
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Speaker 1: His entire life.

680
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: And he said if he played against Tiger, he said,

681
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: Tiger would have to play from the red tees to

682
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 3: get to where Brandon Inge hits it. Front that Brandon

683
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: Inge was a good baseball player. Third baseman had some power.

684
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: I refuse to believe that. But Andy vance Like is

685
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: a scratch golfer. He's not making this stuff. Brandon Inch

686
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: goes over four hundred yards and speaking of Tiger, I'm

687
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: gonna use a bad word here, Jeff, You're gonna have

688
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: to deal with it.

689
00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Buck Show Walder's playing in an.

690
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Speaker 3: Order Lando one day and he's walking down the fairway

691
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: on this course and Tiger is on the other fairway.

692
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Tiger loves baseball. He goes up to.

693
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: Buck Showalder and says, can I play with you guys tomorrow? Usually,

694
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 3: of course it's the other way around, Tiger, can we

695
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: please play with you? So they end up playing the

696
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: next day and they're in a match and Tiger and

697
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 3: Buck are teammates and they get to eighteen and the

698
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: entire match is on the line.

699
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, and Buck it's it's a par four. Okay.

700
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: And Tiger on eighteen looks at his partner with everything

701
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: on the line, and he says, do you think you

702
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: can make a five?

703
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: Year?

704
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: And Buck is so exsulted and so.

705
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 3: Angry that he he parred eighteen and they won the

706
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 3: match because Tiger pointed.

707
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: Right at him and say, can you make a five?

708
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: Here?

709
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of golf and baseball. There are so

710
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: many similarity.

711
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: Before we get to John Smoltz, I have a Kirchin

712
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: quandary for you. It's a hypothetical me and my buddies,

713
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: shout out my buddies in Ball is Life. They listen

714
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: to every single episode. We're in a fantasy football group

715
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: where idiot friends from when we.

716
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Were five years old. Here's our hypothetical.

717
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: Right.

718
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: The quandary for you, do you take ten thousand dollars

719
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: now that's option one? Or I give you twenty four

720
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: hours to hit a hole in one from one hundred

721
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: and thirty five yards out of par three and if

722
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: you do it in a twenty four hour span, you

723
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: get a million dollars.

724
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: What do you do?

725
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 4: So?

726
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: Am I taking the ten grand or going for a million?

727
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: And I can hit balls for twenty four hours twenty.

728
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: Four But I mean all physical limitations as well, right, Like,

729
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: think about you at your age, right, me at my age,

730
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: even with an artificial hit with one hip, right, So

731
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: are you able objectively? How long can you hit balls

732
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: for before you get tired?

733
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Then you gotta eat. You probably gotta sleep at least

734
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: nap in those twenty four hours, all right?

735
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: And again, my father, your grandfather, Pop, was a mathematician

736
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: PhD undergrad.

737
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Mit.

738
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Speaker 3: I think he would say take the ten thousand dollars

739
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: because what are.

740
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: The chances, even in twenty four hours, that I'm going

741
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: to hit a ball.

742
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: In a hole from one hundred and thirty five yards? Jeff, Look,

743
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't play much at all anymore, but I used

744
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: to play a lot.

745
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: How many times.

746
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Have I played a part three and never had a

747
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: hole in one? I am not going to make a

748
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: hole in one during a twenty four hour period on

749
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty.

750
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Five year old yard hole. So give me the ten

751
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: grand and we'll go from that. I disagree.

752
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm taking the shot at a million, and I'll tell

753
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: you why. All Right, ten thousand dollars got I've got

754
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: a baby who's eight months old. Right, ten thousand dollars

755
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: that's gone in an instant, Right, that's not even a

756
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: down payment, sizable enough for a car when she turned sixteen.

757
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: A million dollars, we've got college, We've got anything she

758
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: could possibly need in the moment, all those expenses are covered.

759
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: It's a twelve They say it's a twelve thousand to

760
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: one chance that you could hit a hole in one, right.

761
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know where they get these numbers from,

762
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 2: but if you do the quick math, right, So let's

763
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: just say it's a subjective as twelve thousand divided by

764
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: twenty four, that means, well, now I'm feeling less excited.

765
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 2: Five hundred shots an hour, you're.

766
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: Gonna be exhausted. You can't take you when you go

767
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: to the drive range. Most people who aren't real players,

768
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: they're exhausted.

769
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: After twenty minutes. You're gonna hit it for twenty four hours.

770
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 1: Just take the ten grand.

771
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: You know what we're gonna do, We're gonna put a

772
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: poll up on our Twitter and our Facebook page at

773
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: great game or what would.

774
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: You take the ten thousand outright?

775
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: Or would you try twenty four hours, one hundred and

776
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: thirty five yards out par three? If you hit it in,

777
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: it's a million dollars. I want to hear what you

778
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: have to.

779
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: Say, and the next week we'll just do a.

780
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Speaker 2: Quick update on what our listeners had to say. Do

781
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: you agree with Tim or you agree with Jeff? Coming

782
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: up next, John Smoltz joins us to Talk Golf to

783
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: talk his Hall of Fame career.

784
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: John Smoltz has a eleven holes it one following that

785
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: hypothetical question, he would definitely take the chance he.

786
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Would get eleven in twenty four hours.

787
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: It's coming up next on is this a great game

788
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: or what?

789
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: It is? The Master's Week? Is this a great game

790
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: or what?

791
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: And we've got a really special guest, because not only

792
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame baseball player, but an incredible golf.

793
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: John Smaltzes on the podcast.

794
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me of course.

795
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: All right, John, let's get right to it.

796
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: How many holes in one do you have?

797
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: And what are the circumstances behind your last one to

798
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 3: tell the truth.

799
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 4: Well, I have eleven hole in one, oh my, And

800
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: the last one was a pretty cool one because it

801
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 4: happened ten years after my one, and my tenth one

802
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 4: happened to be on a par four, So I thought

803
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: that was going to lock me out for the rest

804
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: of you know. I figured, if you get a hold

805
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: of one on a par four, that's it, right, you're done.

806
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: So about ten eleven years go by, and then I

807
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: got a hold of one at Michael Jordan's course, Grove

808
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 4: twenty three, and that one was with my buddies of

809
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: five some, and that one was probably as exciting of

810
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 4: a hole in one because of the circumstances surrounding it

811
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: and certainly where it was happened where it happened. But

812
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: after the par four hold and one, I figured I

813
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 4: was done. But lo and behold, I broke the seal.

814
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: And so hopefully you know the ironic part about the

815
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: entire hole in one thing. I've never gotten a hole

816
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: in one at any one of my home golf courses,

817
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 4: and I had and have had a lot of home

818
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 4: golf golf golf courses.

819
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: So you're doing this all along the road, then, is

820
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

821
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 4: That's exactly right, all on the road. And I did

822
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: have I did have a hole in one in a

823
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: professional tournament, which was really cool. The Georgia Open, my

824
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: first professional tournament. I got a hold of one. I

825
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: made the cut. I was nervous. I was beyond nervous

826
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 4: just to compete. It was in Savannah, and I went

827
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: on a birdie eagle barrage just to get to I

828
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: finished twenty ninth. But I had sixteen birdies, three eagles

829
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 4: in four days and finished one under. So if that

830
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 4: tells you how my round was going, you.

831
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Speaker 1: Had a few of those.

832
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Speaker 3: Okay, John, you played golf with Tiger Woods at Augusta.

833
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a minute, but first I

834
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: want you to tell me about the time that you

835
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: faced Tiger Woods in a sim game fifteen years ago

836
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 3: or so whatever. It was in Orlando at like ten

837
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning on a Saturday.

838
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: I was there.

839
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: Tell us what happened when Tiger was the hitter and

840
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: you were the pitcher.

841
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: Well, you know, he had always mentioned to me about

842
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: wanting to face me and seeing what that would be,

843
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 4: and I said, Tiger, I'm more concerned about what you

844
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 4: might have happened to you. Not that I would hit you.

845
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: That's not what I'm concerned about. I'm concerned that you

846
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: would jam your thumb or do something that's going to

847
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: cause you to miss time in golf. He's like, ah, no, no,

848
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 4: don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. I said, well,

849
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 4: here's a scenario that could work. I have a simulated,

850
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 4: simulated game that no one's going to be there. You know,

851
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm working on some stuff, and we'll set it up.

852
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: Brian mccann'll be the catcher, and he goes done, let's

853
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: do it. So he went and took some batting practice,

854
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 4: he got some tips. You know, again, I was more

855
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: worried about him jamming his thumb than anything else. And

856
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: he said, don't mess around with me. Give me everything

857
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: you got. And I'm like, Tiger, I mean, I know

858
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: you're a good athlete. I get it. It'd be like

859
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 4: saying I could make the cut at the Masters. It's

860
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: not going to happen, but inevitably, inevitably, he declared himself

861
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 4: one for four. He hit a little dribbler up the

862
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: middle that he deemed a base head with a walk,

863
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: Brian McCann was too afraid to call strikes on Tiger Woods.

864
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 4: But you know, it's one of those scenarios where I've

865
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: gotten a chance to live out you know, professional golf

866
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: and how difficult it is. We have a lot of

867
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 4: armchair quarterbacks sitting at home thinking, well, I could have

868
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: shot that number at that golf course. No, you can't.

869
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: Just like any other sport athlete, trying to compete in

870
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: another sport is very difficult. And Tiger, I'm telling you

871
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: he handled the bet. Well, it's just there's no way

872
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: to perceive leep to perceive that velocity and that spin,

873
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: you know, no matter what you did in your high

874
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 4: school career or what you did before that. So it

875
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: was a fun experience. I got some great pictures out

876
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: of it. It's one of the most unique times that

877
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 4: we've had both off off the golf course. And yeah,

878
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: so that that's how that story went down. And and

879
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: I think he got a little bit mad when he

880
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: found out I was trying to get him to hit

881
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: it there at the end.

882
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: That's how I ran.

883
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: You blew him away the first and bad and then

884
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: each and bad after that, you gave him more of

885
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: a chance.

886
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: How could you not see that.

887
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: I have to hear about you going onto the course

888
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: at Augusta with him now in his territory.

889
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: What was that?

890
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah? So that was That was such a cool story

891
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: and only the greatest manager in the world, Bobby Cox,

892
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 4: could have let that happen. He gave me the opportunity

893
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: for Tiger to fly me up on Sunday morning a

894
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: couple weeks before the Masters and play with Tiger and

895
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 4: a member, and it was just so surreal. I had

896
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 4: a hard time sleeping the night before and I really

897
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 4: felt like I had to pinch myself when I got there.

898
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't about playing Tiger. It wasn't about playing the Dusta.

899
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 4: I've done that. It was playing Augusta with Tiger on

900
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: Sunday with Sunday pins, like all the Sunday pins for

901
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 4: the tournament were in play, and I was late getting

902
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: to the plane. I was nervous. I couldn't find the fbo.

903
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 4: It cost us practice time at the range. We showed

904
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 4: up and had to go right to the first tee

905
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 4: and I did. I striped the first ball right down

906
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: the middle left of the trap. He hit it in

907
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 4: the trap on the right hand side. Were walking down

908
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 4: that hill, and you know, he looked at me and goes,

909
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: this might be your day, And I said, I know

910
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 4: it's going to be my day, and unfortunately I double

911
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: bogie from the middle of the fairway. He parted. He

912
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: shot sixty six. I think I shot seventy six. It

913
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: was the most It was the most boring sixty six

914
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life. He did not miss

915
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 4: a shot, but he didn't put it in any place

916
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: where he could get in trouble.

917
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: Right, And what about his focus, John? I was told

918
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: by Adam Leroche, one of your former teammates who played

919
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: golf with him, that he's the life of the party

920
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: on the course, and then the minute he looks down

921
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: at the ball, he is in a total trance and

922
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: stays in it until he hits it.

923
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Is that what you saw from him?

924
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

925
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 4: Now, when we played, my rule was never get him

926
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 4: to that point if you talk trash. If you got

927
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: him going, then he got to that point. He was

928
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 4: enjoying the round. He just wanted to beat you. But

929
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 4: you're right, he has a Michael Jordan type laser esque

930
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: focus to the prize and no one's going to get

931
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: in the way. And his ability to kind of reamp

932
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: up his own adrenaline is incredible. So I'll give you

933
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: one quick story about how that happened. We were playing.

934
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: My buddy flew me down. He was about a twelve

935
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 4: or eight andy cap at the time. Everybody else was

936
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: a scratch golfer or plus. And it was a par five.

937
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: It was a fifth hole, and I actually had won

938
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 4: the first four holes against Tiger, two of those with strokes.

939
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 4: And we come to this par five and the scorecard

940
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: read five four three two one, So five different players,

941
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 4: five different scores. And when my buddy, when I pulled

942
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 4: the ball out of the hole, my buddy made the

943
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 4: hole in one. I said, what's more believable when we

944
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 4: get home, Scottie, the fact that you made a home

945
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: in one, or you beat Tiger by four on one hole. Well,

946
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 4: Tiger gave me a number one signal, if you know,

947
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: with one of his fingers and went into a twelve under.

948
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 4: In the next twenty two stretch. We played twenty seven holes.

949
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm talking about.

950
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: When you're a pitcher, you don't think about all those

951
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: eyes are on you, but you do in golf. Is

952
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: that because you're a Hall of fame Pitcher, and you've

953
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 3: done it more than you have played golf as much

954
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: as you've played.

955
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a little bit more of an

956
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: uncomfortable feeling. Right. That's my office was the mound. I'm

957
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: trying to make the office my golf course now. But

958
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: that's I just don't have enough reps or practice to

959
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 4: be able to be comfortable. See what happens in sports,

960
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 4: and I've said this all all to wherever I've gone.

961
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: Somebody when you're in when you're in a sporting event,

962
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 4: you know somebody has the advantage. Now that the goal

963
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 4: is to never convey that. When you're on the mound

964
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: and you're facing a hitter, you know right away either

965
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: you got the advantage or the hit or does and

966
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: the mound. I learned how to fake it, and I

967
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: learned how to not show that secret. That's kind of

968
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 4: always been the battle in the sport. In golf, you

969
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 4: can try to hide it all you want, there's going

970
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 4: to be a point on the golf course where it

971
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 4: shows where you're weak at and it exposes you immediately.

972
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 4: And I think golf is more about exposing the unbelievable

973
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: humility and humbleness of why no one has been able

974
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 4: to master it, because at some point you're going to

975
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 4: be in that spot where you go, oh, I don't

976
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: like this, and all the world can see it. So

977
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: I just love the intrigue about it. I love trying

978
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: to get better, and I learned from all my failures.

979
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 4: Some of my worst rounds become my greatest teaching moments.

980
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: Yes it's humiliating, and yes, no one likes shooting an

981
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: eighty six or in eighty seven in a US Open

982
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 4: my first one. But I came back the next day

983
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 4: and shot seventy five or seventy six and improved by

984
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 4: ten shots. I knew I wasn't going to make the cut,

985
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 4: but it served me well for a lot of more

986
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: opportunities later on.

987
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: John Jeffrankor is our dear friend, really good major League

988
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: baseball player and one are your best friends and a

989
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: really good golfer. But tell us about the time you

990
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,479
Speaker 3: went to eighteen with him and he had you dead

991
00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 3: to rights.

992
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: Tell that story, please.

993
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I played with a lot of my teammates

994
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: whenever we go to spring training. You know, it was

995
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: more able for the position players to play the regular season.

996
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: It was more difficult he wanted to beat me so bad.

997
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: He's like the bull in the china shop. Great athlete.

998
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 4: He ran over everybody in high school. It's just so

999
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 4: much superior over everybody else in his high school career

1000
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 4: that he thought he could, you know, he could beat

1001
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: me in golf, and up until this point he hadn't.

1002
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: But he hits it fifty yards by me. He's got

1003
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 4: raw talent, but you could tell, you know, there are

1004
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 4: moments in like I mentioned, you get exposed in golf.

1005
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 4: There's that big number always waiting out there if you're

1006
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: not careful. Well, he had me by five shots going

1007
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: into the eighteenth hole at the Ritz Carlton where they

1008
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: play the father and son tournament. So you know, he

1009
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: had already worked out in the cart with Brian McCann

1010
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 4: what he was going to do in the clubhouse. He

1011
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: was going to print out the golf cards. He was

1012
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 4: going to was sitting everyone's locker. He had everything written

1013
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 4: out and done. And you know, for the most part,

1014
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: in a in a day and age of wind probability,

1015
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: he would have had about a ninety eight ninety nine

1016
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: percent win probability in this in this match. So he

1017
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: comes up to me in the eighteenth tote and he says, well, man,

1018
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 4: I finally got you. I said, yeah, you played good today, kid,

1019
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 4: but you know we got one more old to go.

1020
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 4: Let's just see what happens. But you played good. It's

1021
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 4: a par five dog leg kind of left around now,

1022
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 4: you know you there's more room right than than than

1023
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: and there's water all left. Well, he was trying to

1024
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: hit it right for sure, but he pulled it left

1025
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: and it hit in the water, bounced on the ground,

1026
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: hitting the water. Well. I quickly told him, like, you're

1027
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: not going to gain much yardage by dropping, you might

1028
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 4: as well re tea. Now, if he'd ha dropped, he

1029
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 4: couldn't couldn't lose. But he wanted to hit off the

1030
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 4: tee and he did hit it further left, this time

1031
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 4: left of the water into the hotel and I said,

1032
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 4: you know, the drill it again, RETI did it again.

1033
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: He hit it in the water again, and long story short,

1034
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 4: he makes a fifteen or fourteen on the hole and

1035
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: I make a four. I burdied the hole and beat

1036
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 4: him by ten and I actually won by five, so

1037
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: it completely flipped the script. The best part about the

1038
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 4: whole thing was me going over the card with him

1039
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: and the whole knowing full well he made a fourteen,

1040
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 4: but I said he got a fifteen. So here we

1041
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: are arguing over one stroke on the whole that I know.

1042
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: I just want to hear him say it, you know,

1043
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 4: I want to hear him go over so one off

1044
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 4: the T, three off, the T, five off, the T,

1045
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: seven off seven drop nine chunks. So it was a

1046
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: fun I never said a word about it in the clubhouse.

1047
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 4: I think he thought I was going to really play

1048
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: this up. I never said a word, which probably puzzled him.

1049
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: But what I did do is we every time we

1050
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: went to go play golf, I would either tell the

1051
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 4: pro or the cart girl, whatever the prices, just tell

1052
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: him fourteen. So I used the number fourteen so much

1053
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 4: that he finally said, would you please stop? And I

1054
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 4: said I will.

1055
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's beautiful, John, John, back to the precision of

1056
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: the PGA Tour players. You told me a story on

1057
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 3: a plane two years ago about a pro who was

1058
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: playing a new course never played, they're not in a tournament,

1059
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: and his playing partner said, aim at the clock, over

1060
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: the trees or whatever it was. Tell us what the

1061
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: pro said, what he was told to aim at the clock.

1062
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was talking about the great golfer in the

1063
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 4: pro in the past. Oh my gosh, I'm not Sam Sneve,

1064
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: Maybe Bobby Jones. Oh Man, be hold on a blanket,

1065
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 4: Ben Hogan, Thank you Ben Hogan, he said. When Ben

1066
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: Hogan was here and I said this to him, he said,

1067
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: which hand of the clock do you want me to

1068
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 4: hit it towards? And when you see this clock up

1069
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: in the skyline, you're like, okay, really, but that's how

1070
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: great Ben Hogan was. That's how great these guys are

1071
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 4: when you tell them to aim at which branch, which

1072
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: twig like, they're so finite in their ability to match

1073
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: their equipment with their mechanics. It's amazing. And honestly, I

1074
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 4: remember telling myself back in the day because I would

1075
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: see pros get mad, just get so mad. They hit

1076
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 4: it to ten feet and you'd swear they hit it

1077
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: in the hazard right, And I said, I will never

1078
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: act like that. I will never be the guy that

1079
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: thinks I should always hit it closer, or I shaid, well,

1080
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 4: I got right into that and find myself doing the

1081
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: same thing. So it is a game that is nauseating

1082
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: but addicting and all consuming because every day something different

1083
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: can happen to change the dynamics. Like I said, you

1084
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 4: can get bailed out. You know, you could be a

1085
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 4: very lucky pitcher in the game and be considered a winner,

1086
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: win twenty games, but have a six cra because you've

1087
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 4: got run support or great defense or whatever. In golf,

1088
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 4: it really is about timing mother nature, you know, being

1089
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: able to be at the right place at the right time.

1090
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: Last one for me, John, I had a hip replacement,

1091
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 3: like you did, only one hip, you had them both

1092
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: done that.

1093
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I know your doctor's gonna get mad at you.

1094
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 3: But how soon after your hip replacement did you play

1095
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: and what did you shoot?

1096
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I again, I'm very imagine in my rehab,

1097
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 4: I need some carrot dangling in front of me to

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Speaker 4: get through. And the rehab is not extensive for hips.

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Speaker 4: It's just you'd be disciplined to what they tell you

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Speaker 4: to do and you just be careful. Well, I was

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Speaker 4: very careful, And I know protocol is for averages. Averages

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Speaker 4: meaning everybody who's had the surgery, here's your average, here's

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Speaker 4: what's called for. And then there's the protocol that I

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Speaker 4: put forward to myself. I probably well, I know I did.

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Speaker 4: I played four weeks after I had hip orplacement. But

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Speaker 4: let me say the big butt, I didn't move my

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Speaker 4: hip to play, so I really didn't play golf. I

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Speaker 4: swung with all arms, and I swung with like sixty

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00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 4: gram chefts, forty gram chefts, something that you wouldn't want

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Speaker 4: to play golf with when you're healthy. But it passed.

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Speaker 4: The time I went to the up tease, I ended

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Speaker 4: up shooting under par the front nine, which was blowing

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Speaker 4: everyone's neck. I mean it blew. I just couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 4: But then they moved me back at tea and then

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00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: reality set back in and I think I shot one

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Speaker 4: or six over after that. But my hips are doing great.

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Speaker 4: I'm a year in change on one, and I'm approaching

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Speaker 4: seven months on the other. I've played now four games

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Speaker 4: of basketball back in the league, so I'm getting after

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Speaker 4: it a little bit and enjoying it.

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Speaker 2: I love that we got to talk mostly golf with

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame baseball pitcher Johnson, with it being the masters. John,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining the podcast. We really

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Speaker 2: really appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you again, my pleasure, guys, Thank you John.

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Speaker 2: Thank you again to John Smoltz, and we're really excited

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Speaker 2: next week you should join us because we have a

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Speaker 2: very special episode surrounding Jackie Robinson Day. Jerry Harriston Junior

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Speaker 2: is going to join us. He's a three generation major

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Speaker 2: league baseball player. His dad played and his grandfather played

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Speaker 2: in the Major leagues, but also in the Negro League.

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Speaker 2: So very interesting perspective on Jackie Robinson Day. Excited for

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Speaker 2: you to join us next week. We started today's episode

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Speaker 2: talking about no hitters. Why not end today's episode with

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Speaker 2: no hitters, right? So Nolan Ryan through the most no hitters,

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Speaker 2: of course, with seven. Nolan Ryan is the greatest power

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Speaker 2: pitcher of all time.

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Speaker 1: He's the hardest pitcher to hit in Major League history.

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Speaker 3: He was unbelievably mean on the mound, and that is

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Speaker 3: a compliment. Harold Reynolds once told me, as a skinny rookie,

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00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 3: he took a big swing against Nolan Ryan, didn't even

1142
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: hit the ball, and Ryan knocked him down on the

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00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 3: next pitch, because no skinny rookie is going to swing that.

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Speaker 1: Hard against Nolan Ryan.

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Speaker 3: And even though he was mean on the mound, he

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Speaker 3: still is one of the kindest people that I have

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Speaker 3: ever met. I believe it was twenty seven of his

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00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: teammates named a son their son after.

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Speaker 1: Wow Nolan Ryan.

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Speaker 3: And I remember when rans Malinix, who played for the

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays a million years ago, was asked once what

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Speaker 3: would the world be like if everyone was like Nolan Ryan.

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00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 3: He said, well, everyone would love each other and no

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Speaker 3: one would get a hit. That is Nolan Ryan.

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Speaker 2: A perfect way to wrap up this week's show. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining us. Make sure to follow

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Speaker 2: wherever you're listening, share the show with a baseball fan, friend,

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00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: or family member of yours, and thank you once

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Speaker 1: Again for joining us and being a part of our family.