Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are.
Speaker 1: Back with the first recap of the first episode of
Speaker 1: grand season of The Bachelor. And it's really nice to
Speaker 1: be back recapping The Bachelor because to me, it's the
Speaker 1: best show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we love our between season time.
Speaker 3: It's a nice refresh for us. We get to do
Speaker 3: some holiday episodes. It's always fun. But getting back into
Speaker 3: the routine of getting to watch an episode every single week,
Speaker 3: getting to recap a get to interview someone, it's just nice.
Speaker 2: And I love The Bachelor.
Speaker 3: Out of all of the shows, you know, Golden Regular, Bachelor, Regular, Bachelorette,
Speaker 3: I think I get the most excited for The Bachelor.
Speaker 2: It's also been a great time.
Speaker 3: It's like seasonally terrible out and you know, I'm always
Speaker 3: ready for like a new show.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And their energy is like I feel like all
Speaker 1: the women their energy is like really high on night one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it goes well with the depression of
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season and the cold weather and
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, we're back, it's new year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like glamorous. They're in La it's warm,
Speaker 3: you know, it's nice.
Speaker 2: I also think I just fully lost my train of thoughts.
Speaker 3: Sorry, nice, a few road bumps, guys, getting back into it.
Speaker 2: Apology is apologies. Oh, I know what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: On The Bachelor, the women come in so like vibrant
Speaker 3: and excited, and they're not afraid to like exude that
Speaker 3: emotion of what the excitement, why it's exciting, and how
Speaker 3: exciting it is to be there on night one of
Speaker 3: the show, whereas the men just don't come in with
Speaker 3: that same level of enthusiasm. I feel like they always
Speaker 3: come in a little timid, a little cautious, like what
Speaker 3: have I gotten myself into?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Bachelor's are better, is better.
Speaker 1: It's a better show than The Bachelor at personally, But
Speaker 1: I will say, like, what do you what would you
Speaker 1: rather watch? What do you think is a better first episode?
Speaker 1: The first episode of The Bachelor or the first episode
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so hard.
Speaker 1: I mean we're a little biased because that's kind of
Speaker 1: where we met and that's the only show that I've
Speaker 1: actually been on. But I will say the first episode
Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise is pretty hard to beat because
Speaker 1: there's many and women.
Speaker 2: It's very hard to beat.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, it's very hard to beat because
Speaker 3: there's so much more unpredictability in the first episode of
Speaker 3: Paradise than in The Bachelor. You know, like the Bachelor
Speaker 3: has a very traditional, consistent structure. There's gonna be a
Speaker 3: few surprises, but for the most part, it's like familiar
Speaker 3: and it's comfortable, and it's exciting for that reason, like
Speaker 3: you know kind of what you're going to get. But Paradise,
Speaker 3: every single episode, first episode of every Paradise season is
Speaker 3: gonna be like pretty different because it's just different people.
Speaker 2: And it's also like cast members.
Speaker 3: That you already know and are familiar with and excited
Speaker 3: to see again, versus there's like a learning curve on
Speaker 3: The Bachelor of like getting to know these people other
Speaker 3: than the lead.
Speaker 1: And I would say about Paradise is they are taking
Speaker 1: these like year breaks where then you get excited to
Speaker 1: Like watching this first episode of The Bachelor, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the Paradise is actually gonna be exciting this year. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people now that they could pull from,
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: girls from the season, and I was like, well, this
Speaker 1: person will be really good in Paradise. But it's only
Speaker 1: episode one. We don't know who Grant's gonna pick. We
Speaker 1: don't know who's the next Bachelorette's gonna be, even though.
Speaker 2: Personally we have a whole Bachelor season before Paradise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and personally, I'm already seeing what I believe is
Speaker 1: a bachelorette edit for someone I mint early.
Speaker 3: There's definitely one girl that she got a lot of
Speaker 3: screen time. There's definitely an it feels like it's going
Speaker 3: towards maybe a bachelorette moment.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do we want to call it out already?
Speaker 2: It feels kind of early.
Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it mid we'll get into it, okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: First up, we have Grant's intro package.
Speaker 3: Yep, for those of you who maybe missed it, Grant's
Speaker 3: from Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2: He's thirty years old.
Speaker 1: He was getting emotional a little bit when he was
Speaker 1: talking about wanting to find this person.
Speaker 2: He really strikes me.
Speaker 3: Maybe we say this for every Bachelor, but I don't
Speaker 3: actually feel this about every Bachelor. But I do feel
Speaker 3: this about Grant. I feel like he's really ready and
Speaker 3: he genuinely is like on the hunt for a wife,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I feel like some bachelors,
Speaker 3: it's like I see a long.
Speaker 2: Engagement in their future, you know, like.
Speaker 3: I see a couple moves, a couple trips, a couple
Speaker 3: things before we actually like walk down the aisle. I
Speaker 3: feel like Grant is like, no, I want to start
Speaker 3: this next chapter of my life.
Speaker 1: I I'm not saying he's not ready by any means.
Speaker 1: I don't know him that well. Yeah, I will say this.
Speaker 1: I think he wants to be ready. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think that necessarily means that he is. And I think that's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be We're gonna learn more about if he actually
Speaker 3: is or not as the season goes on. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people come into this show
Speaker 3: like I'm ready, and then when push comes to shove,
Speaker 3: it's like, but are you and they're like.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm not.
Speaker 3: We see him chat with his mom, his sister, his dad,
Speaker 3: he gives his first rose to his grandma.
Speaker 1: We meet, we meet his whole family. I like the
Speaker 1: intro package. I find it to be very necessary, like
Speaker 1: I already know more about Grant than I did from
Speaker 1: GEN season just in life are you? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what I think we see?
Speaker 3: I felt like it was more just like a refresher
Speaker 3: of what we already knew about him.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think we see a more. I think
Speaker 1: the show does a good job of showcasing his vulnerability.
Speaker 1: I think you see that in the intro package where
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think you see you like with Grant,
Speaker 1: Grant with somebody when they picked him to be the bachelor.
Speaker 1: In my head him like it makes sense because he's
Speaker 1: a handsome guy, and I could see a lot of
Speaker 1: women being into Grant. So that's that's good enough, like to.
Speaker 2: So low.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of good enough to be the bachelor.
Speaker 1: But I don't necessarily know if I saw that. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean Gen Sees was a while ago,
Speaker 1: but just maybe it is just a refresher. But I
Speaker 1: already am like, Okay, Grant now to me is the bachelor.
Speaker 1: Where when he got announced as the bachelor, Joey was
Speaker 1: still the bachelor. Now it's Grant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3: I also think he didn't make it to hometowns on
Speaker 3: GEN season.
Speaker 2: The relationship was definitely.
Speaker 1: We don't meet his family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't meet his family.
Speaker 3: His family is gorgeous, very attractive, beautiful family, and just
Speaker 3: seeing him engage with them, I think you learn more
Speaker 3: about him, you feel closer to him.
Speaker 2: It definitely the intro package.
Speaker 3: I think on every season for the lead does a
Speaker 3: great job of setting the tone for like, this is
Speaker 3: your bachelor, this is your boucherette, this is who they are,
Speaker 3: this is their story, and you know, let's let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So we roll up to the mansion.
Speaker 1: Grants a little nervous. He's doing like a little moonwalk
Speaker 1: with Jesse, trying to just feel a little more comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yes, he is so good with the leads. He really is.
Speaker 2: Like his ability to.
Speaker 3: Just converse with them and come he has a comforting presence,
Speaker 3: Like I feel relaxed when he's on screen.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's all gonna be okay. And I'm
Speaker 2: not even the lead.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's easy year for Jesse because Jesse
Speaker 1: was the lead at one point, so like he I
Speaker 1: think he really just knows, like he's connects with them
Speaker 1: and knows how they feel, especially someone like Grant who's
Speaker 1: an ex athlete and so was Jesse, So he's probably
Speaker 1: like really able to connect and be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know how you feel. You just got to loosen up
Speaker 1: because yeah, you're a nervous wreck right now, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: And I also think Jesse, like in the last few years,
Speaker 3: got married. He just had a little girl. Like it's like,
Speaker 3: come with me to the other side, Like you could
Speaker 3: be me in a few years, Like you could have
Speaker 3: all this, but you're not the hosting gig just you
Speaker 3: know life.
Speaker 1: Wow, Well, come with me to the other side. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I got all that, but I like it.
Speaker 1: I'm with you on it. Okay. So first we have
Speaker 1: first out of the limo is Rose.
Speaker 3: Yes, and honestly from the headshots, I wouldn't have predicted
Speaker 3: her to be the first.
Speaker 2: Out of the limo.
Speaker 3: I know her first name is Rose, so like maybe
Speaker 3: that was a dead giveaway, but she didn't really pop
Speaker 3: to me when we did our headshot like bios.
Speaker 2: But she really shined in this episode. Yeah, she's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked her. I was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: I like this girl. We didn't really talk about this
Speaker 1: girl and grant that we only get so much when
Speaker 1: we do, like the bios and the head shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 1: There's always gonna be people that we miss, and she's
Speaker 1: one of the people that I feel like we miss
Speaker 1: because she was captivating, very likable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very confident, relaxed.
Speaker 1: She also looks really familiar, like she's from Chicago, and
Speaker 1: I feel like I definitely have seen her before. You know,
Speaker 1: I said, I saw Jordan from jone season, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I know.
Speaker 2: I yeah, And you were right, So maybe you're right
Speaker 2: about her too.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said, You're like, I feel like I've
Speaker 3: seen her, like at a bar that we go to
Speaker 3: a lot and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she looks really really really familiar.
Speaker 3: Chicago is like a shockingly small town for you, Like
Speaker 3: I feel like you are one degree of separation from
Speaker 3: every other person that lives there.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you always.
Speaker 3: Say that, but you just know you A, you have
Speaker 3: a you cast a wide net. You know a lot
Speaker 3: of people. I think a just because you have a
Speaker 3: massive family and also a big friend group, so it's
Speaker 3: like like a lot of people are accessible to you.
Speaker 3: And you've had like three different lives living in that city,
Speaker 3: so you have like random connections from like every like
Speaker 3: you have like buddies in the produce market, and then
Speaker 3: also like people from The Bachelor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. The more this show goes on, I'm like,
Speaker 1: the longer I do this podcast, like I I.
Speaker 2: Like, do I know everyone in Chicago truly? All Right?
Speaker 3: So Rose was a strong start getting back to the
Speaker 3: cast and the community of Chicago.
Speaker 1: And we've come to the realization that I know everyone
Speaker 1: in the Chicago Land area.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: So next we have Letia. She has an intro package.
Speaker 3: We learn about the fact that she is Mormon. Her
Speaker 3: dad passed away in a car wreck when she was
Speaker 3: three months old.
Speaker 1: Very sad, I would right.
Speaker 3: She she popped for us on the headshots. We predicted
Speaker 3: that she was gonna go far, and I stand by
Speaker 3: that she is.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because there's sometimes we get completely people
Speaker 1: completely wrong. In the head shots.
Speaker 2: We usually always pick like one night, one.
Speaker 1: Girl, and Letia is exactly what, exactly what I thought she.
Speaker 2: Was, Yeah, exactly. We couldn't have been more bang on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I and I and I stand by
Speaker 1: what I said. I think I think, you know, she
Speaker 1: very confident, and I just I see her being there.
Speaker 1: I see her being there for a while. She's not
Speaker 1: somebody that like I always She didn't make out with
Speaker 1: Grant in this episode.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll get to.
Speaker 3: I have little kiss emojis next to all of their names. Yeah,
Speaker 3: let's just kind of jump through some more of the entrance.
Speaker 1: I wrote down the women that I thought stood out
Speaker 1: out of the limo.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's go through some of them.
Speaker 1: So Carolina is another one.
Speaker 3: I have her next two insane dress, very very unique dress,
Speaker 3: which I always love to see speak Spanish from Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3: I feel like you and you said this, and I
Speaker 3: agree with you. She has like a similar air and
Speaker 3: energy that Maria.
Speaker 2: From Joey season did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we all know Maria has like this natural
Speaker 3: star quality. She like shines on television, and I feel
Speaker 3: like Carolina has that quality or is like presenting that
Speaker 3: way as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alicia, she really popped.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she did the Genie and a Ball entrance I
Speaker 2: thought was really cute.
Speaker 1: She really popped, and she was somebody that didn't really Yeah,
Speaker 1: the bio headshot. We didn't. I don't think we really
Speaker 1: talked about her too much.
Speaker 2: No, we did, and I think we like she's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Really pretty and just really really calm energy up there.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, Okay, this girl's she's good. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Grant actually seemed more nervous than most of the women did,
Speaker 3: which I feel like is so rarely the case. I
Speaker 3: feel like the lead usually seems nervous, but the women
Speaker 3: or the guys coming out a limos seems so nervous.
Speaker 2: This group of women was very confident.
Speaker 1: Well, they're all they're all around the ages of like,
Speaker 1: they're like between the twenty seven and thirty mark. I
Speaker 1: would say the majority of.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah, if not like a few of them are
Speaker 2: like older too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think we have just I think we're
Speaker 1: skewing on four Grant women above the age of twenty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joey's season, there was definitely girls that were I would
Speaker 1: say we probably skewed under twenty seven.
Speaker 2: I'd say he was skewed under twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am biased because I went on the show
Speaker 3: at twenty two. I got engaged to you at twenty three, right,
Speaker 3: which is young. I'm not trying to say I wasn't
Speaker 3: super young. I was younger than I was the youngest
Speaker 3: person on Our Seas Paradise, but I think because of that.
Speaker 3: I my personal bias is like there's no difference, you know,
Speaker 3: like just because they're young, doesn't mean that they are like,
Speaker 3: you know, less secure or less ready or less confident.
Speaker 2: And I think that this season might be proving me
Speaker 2: wrong in that assumption.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying like every girl under the age of
Speaker 3: twenty five, but like, there definitely is an energy difference,
Speaker 3: and just specifically and like the self assurance in these
Speaker 3: women and the way that they carry themselves does feel
Speaker 3: really different than what we see in younger casts.
Speaker 2: For sure, do you agree?
Speaker 3: I agree, but it's also to feel that way, but
Speaker 3: I yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you always fight that, but there's also like, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you at you are a very mature twenty three year old.
Speaker 1: And like I compare myself when I first went on
Speaker 1: Becas season and I was thirty, I was very immature.
Speaker 1: Like there's no even on Becca's season that like I
Speaker 1: was ready, Like if I would have lasted on Becas season,
Speaker 1: there's just no way I was ready to get married. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like so and I was thirty. Yeah, so I do think.
Speaker 1: I do think it's always you know, it's the person,
Speaker 1: but like what we are just seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: women on the season that are twenty eight to twenty
Speaker 1: nine who are just very confident and just seem very mature,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like they, at least off of the
Speaker 1: first episode, it seems like they all know what they want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're seeing less of this like and I actually
Speaker 3: like I like this too for a different reason, but
Speaker 3: like we're seeing less of the like silly, giddy, giggly,
Speaker 3: nervous energy that we get maybe more so with a
Speaker 3: younger cast and more of this, Like it just seems
Speaker 3: it seems like they'll so be drama. But like the
Speaker 3: women just seem more confident coming out of the Wimo
Speaker 3: Limo more the Wimo, more commanding, more self assured, which
Speaker 3: I think is great. I think it's it's nice to
Speaker 3: have a tone change for every season. I think after
Speaker 3: Jen's season with you know, we had a younger cast
Speaker 3: and a lot of a lot of craziness and a
Speaker 3: lot of maturity, this will be a good shift.
Speaker 1: We'll see though you never know.
Speaker 2: I think they're still going to be chaotic.
Speaker 1: Alex Alex with the Lama.
Speaker 2: No drama.
Speaker 4: Lama, she's so random, it was a random entrance.
Speaker 1: She's she's really pretty and I just.
Speaker 3: I was like, she has a quirky personality that could
Speaker 3: sell something like that, Like she fully committed to the bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that could have went really bad, Like it
Speaker 1: was kind of going a little rough.
Speaker 2: The whole time.
Speaker 3: I was on the edge of my seat of like,
Speaker 3: all right, is she going to stick the landing? Where's
Speaker 3: this going? How's he going to take this? And then
Speaker 3: when she walked in the house, I was like, Okay, no,
Speaker 3: she she pulled it off.
Speaker 1: She made it work, and that I think that's a
Speaker 1: good sign.
Speaker 3: Okay, but for now, I think we can move on
Speaker 3: from Alex. We do have her coming on as our
Speaker 3: first interview of the season this week, so be sure
Speaker 3: to stay tuned for that episode and check it out.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about all things no drama, Lama,
Speaker 3: and first impression Roses.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm excited to talk to her because I like
Speaker 1: to figure out who she is.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, she's Canadian. Gout any other quick limo
Speaker 3: entrance standouts?
Speaker 1: I thought Juliana. I thought she she really stood out.
Speaker 2: They also played like romantic music when she came out
Speaker 2: of the limo.
Speaker 1: Yes, she's the one, He's the one. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: where if she doesn't end up with Grant, she can.
Speaker 1: I'm getting an early sense of potential bachelorette from her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the one that Joe and I were kind
Speaker 3: of like something about this is giving, like she goes far.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I see her being the
Speaker 3: one to end up with Grant.
Speaker 2: I see her more as being the next bachelorette.
Speaker 1: I think it's too soon to tell. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean he seemed to have Honestly.
Speaker 2: He says a lot of connection.
Speaker 1: He seemed to have a lot of connections. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What do you think of Bailey's entrance with the social
Speaker 2: media photos and her being like can you take the
Speaker 2: photos of me?
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was a good break.
Speaker 1: I thought it was fun. I thought she had like young,
Speaker 1: fun energy. I could see that rubbing a lot of people,
Speaker 1: like a lot of viewers the wrong way of like
Speaker 1: she wanted him to take photos of her, Like what
Speaker 1: is like? I could see that, Like I could She's done.
Speaker 1: I was actually very surprised that she got the first
Speaker 1: conversation with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: I didn't know because it didn't really seem like he
Speaker 1: was super into her intro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know how to read her intro. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is a risky play I could go
Speaker 3: I feel like. I was like, I feel like I
Speaker 3: need to get to know more about her to judge
Speaker 3: the intro. But then she did that really cute little
Speaker 3: like wigbit with him, and I was like, Okay, it works.
Speaker 2: It works. Like she's very silly, she's very playful.
Speaker 3: That's like, if that's the place that it's all coming from, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm totally with it.
Speaker 1: I think she's very likable. I like her, and I
Speaker 1: think she brings a good energy to the show. And
Speaker 1: I do feel like from what we saw, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of similar personalities where she's an outlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a little bit. She's a little bit more
Speaker 3: goofy than some of the girls we've seen, which I like.
Speaker 3: The only other two I wrote down. I mean, we
Speaker 3: skipped over a few, but we can circle back to
Speaker 3: them later. I thought the Big Head was kind of
Speaker 3: funny of an entrance who Sarah Fina she like to
Speaker 3: cut out, which I.
Speaker 2: Thought was kind of cute.
Speaker 1: I actually thought she was one She was one of
Speaker 1: the what I put on her on my notes, but
Speaker 1: she was one of the women that I thought came
Speaker 1: across very well. She shined a little bit during this episode.
Speaker 3: And then Zoe is in your top four predictions from
Speaker 3: the headshots, and she did the T shirt done, which
Speaker 3: I liked only because it was just really creative, Like
Speaker 3: it was a bit entrance and I would literally never
Speaker 3: think about doing something like that in a million years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zoe, I don't. I think grants into her and
Speaker 1: I think it all makes sense. I don't know how
Speaker 1: she's gonna vibe with the other women because it seems
Speaker 1: like they're like she could be someone that's she's.
Speaker 2: Got more of like an edgier personality.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not as warm as maybe some of the
Speaker 3: other girls.
Speaker 2: Come across really quick.
Speaker 3: We have to talk about taylor grand sister making a
Speaker 3: cameo appearance.
Speaker 2: This kind of.
Speaker 3: Feels like a different version or a callback to Charity's
Speaker 3: brother coming and being the bartender.
Speaker 1: We love adding siblings into the show these days.
Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: And also I also watch I was like, think all
Speaker 1: the women talked about how pretty she was. She's beautiful, yeah,
Speaker 1: but like thankfully they weren't like, who's this ugly bitch?
Speaker 3: I think if the show thought people would respond that way.
Speaker 3: There's a good chance they wouldn't have done this.
Speaker 1: But I liked seeing his sister there, I thought, and
Speaker 1: you've seen him like smile, I thought. And it was
Speaker 1: a good way to like shake up the girls a
Speaker 1: little bit. You saw immediately get jealous, like immediately immediately
Speaker 1: was freaking out. Yeah, immediately, like this is our territory,
Speaker 1: we are the women. Don't add any more women.
Speaker 2: Out there, which is so funny because like they've only been.
Speaker 4: There for a few hours, They've been there for five
Speaker 4: minutes all the like it's when when you pop a
Speaker 4: girl in episode six, even like three, okay, even three,
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: Night one like chill out like they should. If I
Speaker 1: were the producers, I would have watched the women's reaction
Speaker 1: to that and think, Okay.
Speaker 3: We got to get some new cast members in midway
Speaker 3: because these girls are going to freak out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, next season, let's let's drop some people. Night two.
Speaker 2: Well they did that on my season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it went really terribly, but like you know, as
Speaker 3: you would expect having watched how these girls reacted after
Speaker 3: seeing a girl come in like three hours late, I
Speaker 3: don't even think.
Speaker 1: I don't even think wait till I think, do it
Speaker 1: all in the same night, but maybe do.
Speaker 2: The late get an early shift and then you get
Speaker 2: a late shift.
Speaker 3: Honestly, this didn't really this didn't really work for me,
Speaker 3: the sister thing. But I think it's one of those
Speaker 3: things that like if you're a woman there and you
Speaker 3: don't know it's his sister, it definitely is a fun
Speaker 3: and emotional twist. But as a viewer, because we'd already
Speaker 3: met her in the package and they weren't showing the face,
Speaker 3: I immediately knew it was her, Like I immediately put was
Speaker 3: like put tune together.
Speaker 2: I was like, well, it's the sister. It's obviously the sister.
Speaker 3: So it just didn't really it didn't hit for me
Speaker 3: in terms of like anticipatory twist, you know. I think
Speaker 3: it was more for the contestants reaction.
Speaker 1: I wanted.
Speaker 3: I wanted it to be an ex an ex is Ah,
Speaker 3: there's never ever a time I don't want to see
Speaker 3: an X show up on this show.
Speaker 2: Like it's one of the more exciting things that happened.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was cute.
Speaker 3: She did a little like presentation on her brother and
Speaker 3: like the sibling bond, and we love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Taylor should go on Paradise or
Speaker 2: like on another season.
Speaker 1: Oh, wait, is she single?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm assuming so.
Speaker 1: I mean if she's single. No, I don't think she
Speaker 1: should go on Paradise. I don't think you just get
Speaker 1: to jump into Paradise.
Speaker 3: But you don't think we should start opening Paradise up
Speaker 3: to siblings. No, I think they did it, didn't Ashley.
Speaker 3: I bring your sister down one year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't think her I think her sister
Speaker 1: was there more like a Oh. I thought she was
Speaker 1: more like there as like a what is it a
Speaker 1: pet sport?
Speaker 2: An emotional support Lauren?
Speaker 3: Lauren was Ashley's emotional support.
Speaker 1: I did, Okay, maybe.
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of both.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I don't think we should start
Speaker 1: throwing siblings into like a space like Paradise. I think
Speaker 1: I think I think grandsisters seem wonderful. And I think
Speaker 1: she could definitely get cast on the next season of
Speaker 1: the Bachelor if she wanted to go on it and
Speaker 1: she was single. That makes total sense to me. I
Speaker 1: think if if nobody from Grant season is good enough
Speaker 1: to be the lead, maybe, but just to throw her
Speaker 1: in Paradise, I think is not the move.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: I personally think a going on the show there's a
Speaker 3: learning curve, and to throw someone into Paradise that's never
Speaker 3: been on the show whenever other person's been on the show,
Speaker 3: it puts them at a slight disadvantage. I also would
Speaker 3: rather see them pluck someone that went home night one.
Speaker 2: Or week two that was great.
Speaker 3: I would rather see that person get a second chance
Speaker 3: than a sibling who's never been on the show. And
Speaker 3: I just think that being on the Bachelor the Bacherette,
Speaker 3: other than you know, obviously there's always like an exception
Speaker 3: to the role. But I think traditionally I like that
Speaker 3: being a pre it to be on Paradise.
Speaker 1: And I think Grand's sister would be at a little
Speaker 1: bit of a disadvantage in a place like Paradise because
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys down there are Grant's friends friends,
Speaker 1: and they may feel inappropriate to go for his or
Speaker 1: his sister. Yeah, so like, but I mean, majority of
Speaker 1: the times they'll still do it, But I can see
Speaker 1: that being a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would rather see if we're talking just siblings
Speaker 3: in general and specifically Taylor, I would rather see her
Speaker 3: as a contestant on The Bachelor than get a free
Speaker 3: ticket to Paradise. I'd rather they pluck one of the
Speaker 3: girls that went home night one on Grant season and
Speaker 3: give them a second chance.
Speaker 1: When was the last time have they ever done that?
Speaker 1: Where they were a sibling got cast on a following season.
Speaker 2: Of Bachelor Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure we've seen siblings on the show, have
Speaker 3: we not? Carly Woodell who ended up with Evan Bass
Speaker 3: on Paradise.
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh her, Oh, her name's Carly.
Speaker 2: Her name is Carly, Carly, Carly and Evan.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, Carl.
Speaker 2: Woodell's a sibling of an ex contestant.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they haven't done it in a while.
Speaker 2: I haven't done it in a long time.
Speaker 1: They haven't done it in a while.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: Aaron Erb, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron RB.
Speaker 2: We had Noah Herb and Aaron RB.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we've had a few contestant sibling situations.
Speaker 2: Maybe not a lean.
Speaker 1: Sibling, Yeah, but I don't think Aaron. Even Aaron wasn't
Speaker 1: on the show at all for Noah's seasons.
Speaker 3: No, one didn't make it to hometown. Yeah, but we
Speaker 3: should get some more siblings on.
Speaker 2: That's fun. Let's do it.
Speaker 3: We're doing parents on Golden Let's let's span it out
Speaker 3: to the siblings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or get some yeah, or you could even take
Speaker 1: some of the children of the Golden people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's put some kids. Let's make this super ancestual.
Speaker 3: All not accessible literally, but like, let's keep it in
Speaker 3: the family.
Speaker 2: Let's keep recasting.
Speaker 1: Right, that's getting crazy. My favorite part of the episode,
Speaker 1: why are you smiling?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I know what you're going to say. I
Speaker 3: thought you were going to be talking about Grant speech,
Speaker 3: And I was like, what did he say in his speech?
Speaker 2: But I know where you're going with this.
Speaker 1: Was the yeah Grant speech. Then all the women go
Speaker 1: in the house, Grant gives a speech that was.
Speaker 2: All what do you think of his speech?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it. I thought he did a good job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was was just like, hey, I'm here.
Speaker 2: I want someone to rank like best Night one speeches.
Speaker 1: Well, there's never going to be a lead that gets
Speaker 1: up there, like all right, I don't know likely. I
Speaker 1: want to see if that come up and just be
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready, but like I'm attracted
Speaker 1: to a bunch of so badly, So let's see how
Speaker 1: this goes.
Speaker 2: No, his speech is great.
Speaker 1: The cat girl Parisa with the PowerPoint presentation was quite funny.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was so funny. I was dying,
Speaker 2: mostly just because like.
Speaker 3: Grant and her were on totally separate pages about what
Speaker 3: was happening, and like she was obviously doing a bit,
Speaker 3: and I think he was like trying to figure out
Speaker 3: what was going on.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just really enjoyed it. I thought it was like
Speaker 2: both like hilarious and awkward.
Speaker 1: His reaction and I loved what he said. I was
Speaker 1: amazed that you really did that, and then we just
Speaker 1: ended the end. Then we ended the scene. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, that was really that was really funny. And
Speaker 1: as the episode goes on, we're definitely seeing more of
Speaker 1: Grant's personality.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think his personality is coming out more and more.
Speaker 3: Shall I read off the names of the girls he kissed,
Speaker 3: which is basically everyone.
Speaker 1: Well read off the names of the girls he kissed,
Speaker 1: because I do think besides just kissing them, there was
Speaker 1: certain girls that I thought he had a really good
Speaker 1: connection with and he seemed to be really.
Speaker 3: Into he did, but unfortunately for him, and the girls.
Speaker 3: That's like a lot of them, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 3: I think he has a connection with a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I think he gets along with.
Speaker 1: I think there was like six there was like six
Speaker 1: girls that I was like, Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I guess, but six is a lot because
Speaker 3: that's only from what we saw. For all we know
Speaker 3: there's like a couple of sleepers in there too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like usually after night one, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he likes like these two or three girls.
Speaker 1: See. I think it's way I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's way more likely for him to be where he is,
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's more enjoyable as a viewer.
Speaker 2: I think it's more enjoyable too. I prefer it.
Speaker 3: I just think it results in a messier season because
Speaker 3: he's just like such a sweetie lover boy.
Speaker 1: Great okay who okay?
Speaker 2: One Alicia Who.
Speaker 1: I think he really likes.
Speaker 2: I think he really likes her. I really like her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great, great interviews, very beautiful, very sweet.
Speaker 2: Uh, Juliana same, I.
Speaker 1: Think he really likes her. Actually, yeah, I think he
Speaker 1: really liked he did.
Speaker 3: He wrote I wrote down Actually he said to her
Speaker 3: he said, I've definitely got my eyes on you though.
Speaker 3: I like your personality and you're beautiful. He's very direct
Speaker 3: and like clear and concise with his intentions and his
Speaker 3: compliments towards the women, which I love.
Speaker 1: And midway through their conversation, we cut to a package
Speaker 1: of Juliana's like family and like their Italian family, and
Speaker 1: they seem like, yeah, car karaoke karaoke in the car.
Speaker 2: Or yeah Carl karaoke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, you really went for it with like
Speaker 3: no information or certainty about what you were saying.
Speaker 1: About.
Speaker 3: He didn't kiss Carolina, but he basically send his interview.
Speaker 3: He wanted to kiss her, but he felt like she
Speaker 3: wanted to take things slow, so he didn't, but like
Speaker 3: basically expressed like he would have, and she.
Speaker 1: Was getting emotional talking about her family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they made out.
Speaker 3: She made a joke about like where's the CARSI going
Speaker 3: in the Ferrari, which I thought was kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Alex, Yeah, kiss he kisses there.
Speaker 1: So Alex Lama entrance compared to all the other entrances,
Speaker 1: I was like, she's gonna be there, She's she's she's
Speaker 1: gonna stick around. But I didn't assume that she would get.
Speaker 1: The first impression rose from what I saw.
Speaker 2: From the conversation of like the French Lessons, but no.
Speaker 1: Once they had a conversation, and that was one of
Speaker 1: the first times I saw Grant really relaxed.
Speaker 2: Well you did say that, you did say that?
Speaker 1: He Yeah. I was like, okay, this he he is.
Speaker 2: Well, she's such a big personality.
Speaker 3: She's obviously gonna make an impression coming out of the
Speaker 3: limo because she's so vibrant. And then I feel like,
Speaker 3: because she's a yapper. He was like, this is nice,
Speaker 3: Like she can kind of carry this. I can just
Speaker 3: enjoy myself. And it was a good they have a
Speaker 3: good like personality matchup, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's one of the first like true
Speaker 1: signs is when you see the lead relax, relax, I
Speaker 1: agree and feel comfortable. And that was the first I've
Speaker 1: seen him all night with her.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: Vicky, he kissed, she did little like bottle service bit.
Speaker 3: Zoe he kissed, which we talked about earlier. She did
Speaker 3: the T shirt gun.
Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure I think I from my top four,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I said Zoe's gonna be who he ends.
Speaker 2: Up with you did you did?
Speaker 1: And I actually still stand by I actually I still
Speaker 1: stand by.
Speaker 2: That she might. Yeah, and then Rose he kissed. She
Speaker 2: did the ghost.
Speaker 3: Moment with the clay where they made each other like
Speaker 3: clay rings. Those are all the kisses that I have recorded.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if there was more that we didn't.
Speaker 2: Get to see. I'm not against a lot of Night
Speaker 2: one makeouts.
Speaker 3: I just want to be clear, like, this list isn't
Speaker 3: meant for judgment, It's just meant for data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Rad's gonna have a really tough time
Speaker 1: when we get into the later rounds of the season.
Speaker 3: He's going to have a lot of overly confident, very
Speaker 3: jealous women very early on if he keeps this up.
Speaker 1: You said that to me when we were watching the episode.
Speaker 1: The way he's speaking to the women is making them
Speaker 1: feel very confident in their relationship with him already, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be an issue.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's not holding any cards close to his chest, and
Speaker 3: he likes a lot of them, which I get because
Speaker 3: it's a really great cast. I think we have a
Speaker 3: lot of great contenders for Paradise from this cast, and
Speaker 3: I'm excited for the season, but like it's easier on him,
Speaker 3: I think, and the women if he likes less of
Speaker 3: them or at least is like more restrictive with his feelings.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of girls left Night one being like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, he's meeting my family for sure.
Speaker 1: What would you want if you were the lead? Would
Speaker 1: you want there to be out of a cast of
Speaker 1: twenty five first Night ten people that you were really into,
Speaker 1: or would you want it there to be like only
Speaker 1: like You're like, okay, it's really between these three and
Speaker 1: kind of know that Night one.
Speaker 3: I I'm not a lover girl, Like it takes a
Speaker 3: lot for me to have a crush on someone, and
Speaker 3: when I do like someone, I'm pretty like tunnel vision.
Speaker 3: So I think you could give me like twenty five
Speaker 3: of the best guys out there and there would still
Speaker 3: only be like I only have it in me to
Speaker 3: be really obsessed with like four Max, you know, like
Speaker 3: I'm just never But I think it's hard because I
Speaker 3: like to flirt, so I would probably very like flirty
Speaker 3: with a lot of them. But but when it comes
Speaker 3: to being like vulnerable and really like intentional with the
Speaker 3: reassurance that I'm giving, I think I would withhold that
Speaker 3: for the people that I really felt like, you know,
Speaker 3: moving into week three, two or three, I was like,
Speaker 3: I really see.
Speaker 2: Something with this person.
Speaker 3: I would be I would be more restrictive with my
Speaker 3: vocabulary when it came to like.
Speaker 2: I really like you.
Speaker 3: I think you're beautiful and amazing, and I connect with
Speaker 3: your personality and I am excited to get to know
Speaker 3: you more. Like, that's an amazing thing to say to
Speaker 3: someone on a first date, but it's a really hard
Speaker 3: thing to say to someone when you're saying it to
Speaker 3: twenty five first dates.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I think he's almost compartmentalizing each relationship a
Speaker 3: little too much right now.
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't think you're wrong. I don't think you're own.
Speaker 2: I think I answered like four questions that you didn't ask.
Speaker 1: But you did. But everything you said makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense.
Speaker 3: So Okay, Alex gets the first impression Rose, Yep, we're
Speaker 3: gonna talk to her, So I don't think we need
Speaker 3: to get into that too much. Overall, I think it
Speaker 3: wasn't totally a surprise. She was definitely like in the running.
Speaker 2: For it in my mind.
Speaker 1: After the after their one on one conversation, not surprised
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 3: And then when it came to the Rose, when the
Speaker 3: first rose of the night went to Letia, next one
Speaker 3: went to Rose, next one went to Zoe, and we
Speaker 3: sent home.
Speaker 1: Do the whole cast?
Speaker 2: Nope, that.
Speaker 1: Home.
Speaker 3: We sent home seven girls, the only one I was
Speaker 3: maybe like a little surprise. They were all great, just
Speaker 3: like based on like screen time and connection. I was
Speaker 3: a little surprised about Janey, maybe because we did see
Speaker 3: her entrance, like she was like the third one of
Speaker 3: the Limo and Savannah. She's someone that I'm like, if
Speaker 3: there was a different lead, I don't know if we
Speaker 3: would have seen her go home this early.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we'll at least see one of them
Speaker 1: in Paradise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we usually see We usually see one. You know,
Speaker 3: there's usual one night oneer that gets cast.
Speaker 1: Was in your top four, I know, not now your
Speaker 1: top three.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever picked a top four
Speaker 3: that didn't have someone that went home night one. I
Speaker 3: think I always have someone that goes far and always
Speaker 3: have someone that someone that.
Speaker 2: Goes home night one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I'm I'm nothing if not consistent,
Speaker 3: But I like that it's a smaller cast too.
Speaker 2: It's just way more manageable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we only had twenty five women, thirty perfection.
Speaker 3: We don't need My season had like thirty seven women.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, like too much, too.
Speaker 3: Much as a viewer, you know, I like twenty five
Speaker 3: me too, because leaving night one, I feel like I
Speaker 3: got a vibe of everyone except for Kylie, who I
Speaker 3: don't think we saw one time.
Speaker 1: Even even like usually the first couple episodes, I need
Speaker 1: the face sheet because I'm like trying to remember who
Speaker 1: everyone is. But even just talking about majority of these
Speaker 1: women this first episode, like I already I.
Speaker 2: Feel like I know a lot of their faces and names.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that is episode one. We hope
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed the recap and make sure you stay
Speaker 1: tuned because we are going to have the first Rose
Speaker 1: recipient Alex on Bachelor Happy.
Speaker 2: Hon and twist in the plot. She also has the
Speaker 2: first one on one day of the season.
Speaker 1: Now, forgot to mention that, but yes, what did you
Speaker 1: think of that? I like that?
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know if I liked it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. There's more stakes and it forces
Speaker 1: to the lead to really be like, I actually need
Speaker 1: to put some thought into this because I'm going to
Speaker 1: spend more time with this one person right away, and
Speaker 1: this is the beginning of my journey, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: kind of be like that's an important decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I also feel like the first Impression Rose recipient
Speaker 3: usually then gets back burnered into like a week four
Speaker 3: one on one date because they.
Speaker 2: Got such early reassurance.
Speaker 3: So it kind of it makes the first Impression Rows
Speaker 3: more desirable because I feel like it doesn't come with
Speaker 3: like that con of well, now I might have to
Speaker 3: wait like weeks for like real time with him. Like
Speaker 3: it's almost, uh a double edged sword getting the first
Speaker 3: Impression Rose usually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but now you want it.
Speaker 2: You have a target on your back, but like literally
Speaker 2: who cares? Yeah, you want you want it?
Speaker 1: That's raise the stakes.
Speaker 3: I like the first Impression Rose twist as well, just
Speaker 3: because I think it spices up the first Impression Rows
Speaker 3: by adding those stakes. But it feels aligned for the show,
Speaker 3: Like the Laya twist with the card and the the power,
Speaker 3: like it just didn't align with Bachelor. It just felt
Speaker 3: really forced and like it just it didn't work at all.
Speaker 3: It didn't translate, it didn't get used, whereas this feels
Speaker 3: fresh but still true to the show. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 3: gonna have Alex on later this week. We're gonna see
Speaker 3: more of her next week's episode, So be sure to
Speaker 3: keep tuning into Grant season of The Bachelor, and don't
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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, guys,