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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: Hey? We're doing okay, it's waiting by the phone. So

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Speaker 2: what we're trying to figure out is why you may

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Speaker 2: So tell us about Christian that's his name. You met

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my friends and I are calling him Christian Gray

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know the fifty Shades is great guy,

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Speaker 3: Christian Gray. Anyway. Okay, So we met on Hinge and

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Speaker 3: we went out twice, and during our second date we

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Speaker 3: So I'm very confused.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, we don't often hear about a third

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, let's call this guy just a second. We'll

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Speaker 2: that sounds great. We're gonna find out what's going on

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Speaker 2: two minutes away after be oh v frend Show. Hey Angela,

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Speaker 2: all right, welcome back. Let's call Christian just to recap

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Speaker 2: you guys met on the dating app Pinge and he

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Speaker 2: went out twice. On the second date you were even

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Speaker 2: Except after the second date, you never heard from this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really weird. I would love some clarity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, well let's call him right now. Good luck, Angela,

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi is his Christian? Oh yeah, this is see Hey Christian.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. My name is Fred. I'm calling from the

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Speaker 2: Fred Show, that morning radio show. The whole crew is here,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you very much. We're calling on behalf

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know her.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so it was okay. She told us that

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Speaker 2: Oh this this may surprise people, but I don't really

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Speaker 2: Huh. Okay, Well, I don't know about you guys who

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Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. Honestly, I think I'm I mean,

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Speaker 4: If I'm being honest, I would think it's a little soon,

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Speaker 2: Who's next? You know, it's dating. It's a form of dating, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think I was created right. It's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I guess if you really like somebody,

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Speaker 2: not a match. I'll ask, but Christian, would you would

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the writings on the wall, as

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Speaker 2: So no, but look, I mean she did, in fairness,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So, but no, that's on day one. Okay, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Stand your ground, stand on business, that's right, Stand on business,

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Speaker 2: that's right. Key, I mean what about it? Have you

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Speaker 2: ever been on the dating amps? Ski?

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Speaker 1: Key?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: No, no, No. If you're looking to be intentional and

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Speaker 2: be with one person, then that's your prerogative. She he is,

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Speaker 2: and she's looking right now to sort of maybe not

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Speaker 2: yet make that discrimination also her prerogative. Neither one of

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Speaker 2: them are wrong. They're just looking for two different things.

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Speaker 2: And look, if I want a girlfriend and I meet

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Speaker 2: that work if if I'm looking for a relationship and

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Speaker 2: if she is too, then she might be open to that.

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Speaker 2: But yet they're not looking at the same thing.

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Speaker 4: So how I would say that Fred, though, is Hey,

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Speaker 4: just so you know, you could do whatever you want.

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Speaker 4: I'm really into you, and I'm going to delete my

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Speaker 2: No, I think that makes a lot of sense. I

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Speaker 2: think that makes a lot of sense. But I can

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Speaker 2: and they're like, no, I want to keep going on

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Speaker 2: other dates. It's like, well that doesn't Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 2: building anything then, but that she doesn't want to so

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Speaker 2: it's all good. So nobody's really in the wrong, but

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Speaker 2: it's not going to work out. Guys, thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for your time. Best of looks at both of you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Catlet's up next with the Entertainment Report and eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty bucks for our pop culture expert. Shelby is Shelley.

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Speaker 2: If you beat her, that money as yours will play. Next,

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Speaker 2: it's The Fred Show.