1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank at the Giants. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: It's a Baldy breakdown edition and for that we're joined 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: by the one and only Brian Balding or Baldy. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: What's going on? 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Man? 7 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 2: How are you, John? 8 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. You know how this off season 9 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: comes at you fast. You know, free agency just came 10 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: and went. Now it's like full speed ahead to the draft, 11 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: you know. So here we are, We're right in the 12 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: thick of it. 13 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is there is no rest of the weary. 14 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: There is no offseason in the National Football League except 15 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: for maybe two weeks at the end of the June 16 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: and beginning of July. You might get something in. But 17 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: besides that, it's really just go go go, and the 18 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: Giants were go go going last week. 19 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Baldy. 20 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: In free agency, I guess let's go with offense first. 21 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: And I and people will laugh at this. I think 22 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: the most important move was was bringing the guy back 23 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: that was a free agent, and that was Jermaine illumina Ar. 24 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: Bringing him back to play right tackle. 25 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: You know, there just wasn't a lot of guys out 26 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: there if you let him go who you're going to 27 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: replace him with. 28 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: And he's just rock solid, dependable at that spot. 29 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: Is he doctor that? And you know the irony is, 30 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: you know John harbaald the Ravens drafted him way back when, 31 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 3: you know, and he and you know, look, it took 32 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: him a while. He had some injuries, and you know, 33 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: he's in some bad spots. But I thought he has 34 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: played extremely well the last two years. And I think 35 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: he's very consistent. He believes in himself. I think he's 36 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: right in the prime of his career. I don't see 37 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: any reason to disrupt that right tackle position. 38 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: No, I'm with you, And I'm curious to see Baldy 39 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: because he's probably I would say a little bit better 40 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: of a pass protector than he is a run blocker. 41 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see how he fits in. And 42 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: we could talk about this who went we're done with 43 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: the offense into the type of offensive scheme and line 44 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: scheme that the Giants going to run this year. 45 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be heavy, tight ends, it's going 46 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: to be power. I mean, you're going to talk about 47 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 3: Patrick Riccard here. You know, as soon as I saw 48 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: them sign him, I knew this style of offense is 49 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: just going to be big. They're going to slug you 50 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, so you know, moving the 51 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage is going to be paramount, you know. 52 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: And so they've got you know, they got a horse 53 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: there in the cards that that's especially he doesn't have 54 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: to touch the ball to impact the game. 55 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so why don't we get to record next? Because 56 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the Giants two big ticket items that they brought up 57 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: from the outside Bald he were a tight end in. 58 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: A full back yep. 59 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: And the questions I had when they hired Matt Naggy 60 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: was that, well, is this gonna look like the Chiefs 61 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: offense now? And I think based on what I've seen 62 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: for what the Giants have done, the answer is no, 63 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna look like the Ravens offense was. And Recard, 64 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I think just brings a very unique piece as someone 65 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: that is a you know, I'll harken back to the nineties, 66 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: a Darryl Johnston type lead blocker on the run game exact, 67 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe part of me a little bit more powerful. He 68 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: moves people, he could play on the line, he could 69 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: play in the backfield. He just gives you that attitude 70 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: and power in the run game. That really not many 71 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: other fullbacks can. 72 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: Well. I remember talking to him last year in training camp, 73 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: you know when we finished, I just you know, kind 74 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: of like stopped on the shoulder, stay healthy, that kind 75 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: of thing. When you hit that guy. He's solid. Granted, 76 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 3: I mean there's a reason why he does what he does. 77 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he's over three hundred pounds. He takes very 78 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: good care of himself. He loves role. And I'm with you, 79 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: this is not gonna look like a Chiefs West Coast 80 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: passing attack. It's not like I just don't believe Matt 81 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: Nagy's job right now is to morph this offense into 82 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: the style of offense. John wants to run. And that's 83 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: what a good coordinator does. I mean they adjust to 84 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: the personnel. And so when they sign Likely and they 85 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 3: signed Patrick Ricard and you know, and they have Scataboo 86 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: and they have you know, a quarterback that is very 87 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: mobile in Jackson. So I feel like there's gonna be 88 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: a lot of what we saw in Baltimore. I think, 89 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: big tight ends, big offensive line, recard, pounding you, winning 90 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, playing ball control. I feel like 91 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: that's that's what this thing is going to begin to 92 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: look like here pretty quickly. 93 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look when their first big ticket item, Baldy 94 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: was a tight end. I think that that also sent 95 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the message, you know, they lose one though what Robinson 96 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: is a receiver, and we'll talk about the receivers they 97 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: brought in. But their answer to that was signing Isaiah Likely. 98 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: So it tells you, all right, well, hold on a second, 99 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: is your answer, We don't need a slot receiver because 100 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna play a bunch of tight ends, including one 101 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: that lines up more than half the time as a 102 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: slot perimeter guy. 103 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's a big slot receiver, is what Isaiah is. 104 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: He's a big target. He runs well, he's young. I 105 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: don't know if he's twenty five twenty six years old 106 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: at a coastal Caroline. I've talked to him at the 107 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year. He knew he was going to 108 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: be a free agent. He was just you know, in 109 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: that wait and see mode where but it's not I 110 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: just think, you know, when you know a guy and 111 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: you've been around for four years and you see him 112 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 3: have some big days. In fact, honestly, the biggest play 113 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: that happened last year of the Ravens was him kept 114 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: for a touchdown pass against the Steelers in the middle of 115 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: the season and they ruled an incomplete pass. We all 116 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: saw it and I was announcing that game, and I'm like, 117 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: they should have beaten the Steelers that day, and maybe 118 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: they win the division if they do. But regardless, like he, 119 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: I thought he had possession control. I mean, a big target, 120 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: catches the ball away from his body, good after the catch. 121 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: Young guy got a smile on his face. Likes likes 122 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: the game, likes going to work. He's a he's a 123 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: good he's a good teammate. It's a good team guy. 124 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a guyball to you that had to share 125 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: the tight end spell with Mark Andrews. So he's not 126 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: be a guy that's you know, I need so many 127 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: catches any of this many targets. And when I rewatched 128 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: a lot of his stuff, You're right. His run after 129 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the catch I think is dynamite. I think it's really good. 130 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: He can make contested catches, he could break off route. 131 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: So as a receiver, there's not really much he can't do. 132 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: To be totally honest with you. 133 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: No that that's that's his job. And then you know 134 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: when when the quarterbacks got to extend to play, he's 135 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: got to scramble, protection, breaks down, whatever happens. Like he understands. 136 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: I would have to play with Lamar for four years. 137 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 3: He understands like get into the quarterbacks vision, go find him. 138 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: And he made a lot of catches. In fact, I 139 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: put some on the video where he just uncovered and 140 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 3: got you know, and Lamar was able to see him 141 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: down the field. And you know, it's it's nice to 142 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: have a six foot four fifty pound target that runs 143 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: really well, and he's got a good reach and good 144 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: length and you know, can get into the passing lane 145 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: for those scrambled drill type catches. 146 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, ball the inlook likely is a player that I 147 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: think will be a friendly player for Jackson Dark. Do 148 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: you want to have a guy that can be a 149 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: friendly over the middle target for a young quarterback. 150 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: He seems to fit that bill almost perfectly. 151 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: He does. And he's got good hands. He just catches 152 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: the ball well. You know, he's been largely healthy. I 153 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: think he's a very dependable guy. I think he's you know, 154 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: he's a guy that likes to go to work, likes 155 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: to go to practice, but yes, come game time, I mean, 156 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: there's just something about you know, we were number eighty there. 157 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: We'll see what he wears in New York. But uh, 158 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: you know, he was an easy guy to find, you know, 159 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: whether it was a designed route or it was the 160 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: right read for the quarterback, or whether it was the 161 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: scrambled drill type play. Like, he is a guy that 162 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: can get into the passing lane and he can help 163 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: the quarterback. He's gonna come back to the ball, John, 164 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: you know, he's gonna work back to the ball to 165 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: catch it away from his body. He's not a body catcher. 166 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: He's a guy that catches his ball away from his body. 167 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: Those are always little things that help a quarterback out. 168 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. All right. 169 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: So let's go to the receivers now that the Giants 170 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: brought in, and we'll talk about these guys as a 171 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 1: pair to replace Wandil Robinson the Giants. According to reports, 172 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: they've agreed the terms pending and physical with both Calvin 173 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: Austin the third and darn Ol'd Mooney Baldi and watching 174 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: both guys. Austin really a big play down the field guy. 175 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: He's not gonna catch the ball in the middle of 176 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: the field of time. So I think he's interesting as 177 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: I think him and Jalen Hiowa have a nice competition. 178 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: I think they're similar players. And then you get to 179 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: darn Old Mooney, who I think is interesting. Can play 180 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: inside outside, you know, he gets open, he separates, His 181 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: routes are good. 182 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: He's fast. 183 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: He's had some drop issues now, but other than that, 184 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: he's a guy that I mean, you go back and 185 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: watch his tape with Kirk Cousins, and you know the 186 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: anticipation Cousins is able to throw to him with because 187 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: of his route running can assistency, that's always pretty telling. 188 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: Let's just start with Austin. To Austin, I mean basically 189 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: helped win three games for Pittsburgh, game on the game 190 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 3: winner against the Baltimore Ravens with a minute to go 191 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: to win the division. So you know, and he was 192 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: playing at the extra receiver away from the three receiver 193 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: set and Aaron Rodger, you know, I mean, he trusted 194 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: him and he won the route a little stuttering go 195 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: and that beat the Ravens. I'm sure that's one of 196 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 3: the reasons why John Harball has him here. You know, 197 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: with him right now, he saw him like basically knock 198 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: him out of the playoffs, and so he does have 199 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: some big play potential. He always was. He ran Wilwell 200 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: coming out of Memphis, and so he's had some moments 201 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: in this league. But Darnell Mooney is a great route 202 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: runner you mentioned two years ago. With a healthy Kirk 203 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: Cousin for the most of the year, he's had basically 204 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: two thousand yard receiving seasons. But he is a great 205 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: route runner. He can separate, whether it's coming back to 206 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 3: the ball on stop routes down the field, can push, 207 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: you know, really push the coverage and then come back 208 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: to the ball really well. But he also is a 209 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: guy who's got great suddenness and the ability to separate 210 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: against man coverage. And honestly, John, if you can't beat 211 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: man coverage in this league as a receiver, you're gonna 212 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: have struggle. You're gonna struggle to catch a lot of balls. 213 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: But he's always been able to do that. 214 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: Huddle up, get in here. 215 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: If you're lined up here, you gotta go over the 216 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: middle with at the score great. 217 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? 218 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: I don't know, but Tennison does makes sense of your 219 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: money with citizens Official Bank of Eli Manning. 220 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and I think he leverages a speedwall. 221 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: Right. He was a four to three eight guy at 222 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: the combine, and he pushes down field. To your point, 223 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: he caught so many of those deep outs from from 224 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: Cousins after really getting the defensive backs to flip their 225 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: hips and then he breaks it off. And he did 226 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: the same thing on on some of those digger concepts, right, 227 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: he would push back the zone and then kind of 228 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: cut inside, you know, in front of the safety. And 229 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: I think the consistency at which he did it because 230 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you had Cousins throwing those passes Baldy before he was 231 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: even into his brakes on some of those plays. 232 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a good timing, good timing between him and 233 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: he really does a good job of recognizing man versus zone. 234 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: Certainly there's defenses out there that play one half of 235 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 3: the field man one half in zone depending on the 236 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: type of coverage. He recognizes that stuff pretty quickly, and 237 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: so he when he does sit down when it is zone, 238 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: it always seems like it's in the soft spot. You know, 239 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: he's got a lot of room around him. You see 240 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: catch after catch where he'll really push the defender off 241 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: and you know, you play some of these teams, they 242 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: play a matchup zone and so at a certain distance 243 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: it is kind of a man coverage, and he knows 244 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: how to just break it off, snap it, and come 245 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 3: back to it. He's got great, great ability to separate 246 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: at the very top of his route, and that's what 247 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: allows a guy that size, because he's not a big guy, 248 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: but that allows a guy at that size to really 249 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: get open and really give the quarterback a pretty good signal. 250 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, if you play off man or that 251 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: off matchup zone against the ball, that you're dead because 252 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna start backing up and retreating. He's just gonna 253 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: break those off. I think your only chance to gets 254 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: them is trying to be physical with him with the 255 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage right and be in a little have 256 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: a little contact with him. He hasn't been great on 257 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: contested catches over the course of his career, gain only 258 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: about one hundred and eighty pounds with a couple of 259 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: drops in there, So I think that's your only shot 260 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: against him. But you're right, man, he's got that twitch 261 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: in the burst, in the change of direction to create 262 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: that separation even in some of those press man situations. 263 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a needed role. I mean, I 264 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: think he's he can play outside, but he's mostly a 265 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: slot receiver. Yeah, in Atlanta he would be the X 266 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: opposite the three receiver sets with Drake Lundi and Kyle Pitts. 267 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: He would play in that role at times and get 268 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 3: matchups that were favorable. But honestly, he looks best in 269 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 3: the slot, always was, going back to his days in Chicago, Like, 270 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: he looks like he's a good number two in some cases, 271 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: maybe a number three, which is fine because obviously Malik 272 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: is going to get a lot of attention, and so 273 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: you better have him some guys that you know can 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: win against your number two corner or various looks that 275 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 3: you're going to get. 276 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, when he was men that in Chicago, he played 277 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the slot more than he did in Atlanta. So I 278 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: would suspect that's where they would use him, especially with 279 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: the loss of Robinson. And if you're rolling out next 280 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: year and I don't know what the Johnson do in 281 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: the draft, and you're rolling out your top three receivers 282 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: or neighbors Slayton and Mooney, I with with Austin is 283 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: kind of your speed guy. 284 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: I think that's a pretty good quartet. 285 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we got a lot of speed on the field. 286 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: You got a guy that's a true number one that 287 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: is gonna get a high volume of catches. And then 288 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, if you got likely in there, you know, 289 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: and then obviously the Backs are gonna catch their share 290 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: of screens with Matt Nagy and that offense, there's gonna 291 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: be screens, there's gonna be checkdowns, there's gonna be all 292 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: those things. The ball's gonna get moved round. But you know, 293 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: Malik is gonna get a lot of the attention. But 294 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: you're gonna need guys that are gonna, you know, need 295 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: to catch sixty to seventy balls in his offense. 296 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: Johnson Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the official 297 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: bank of the Giants. From game day celebrations to your 298 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: everyday financial needs. Big Bo fans can get the most 299 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: out of everyone with Citizens. Learn more at Citizens bank 300 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Giants and just a couple of guys 301 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: on offensive. Giants brought back Baldy really quick before we 302 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: move on. Isaiah Hodgins back kind of that size and 303 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver they don't have anywhere else. And then I 304 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: guess John Harball wants to see what he can get 305 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: out of a Neil, my guess is that he's going 306 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: to be a guard for Harbay. You look at Follila, 307 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: a really big, tall guard. He tried to play in 308 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: there in Baltimore, and we'll see. 309 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: What he can get out of him. 310 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: Neil, I think it's really John's philosophy, like bigger is better. 311 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: He'd rather have a big power forward than a small 312 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: power forward. So here's a guy that's big. He had 313 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 3: had injury issues and not whether that contributed to some 314 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: of his very inconsistent play that he had. You know, 315 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: he's got a new offensive line coach of Mike Bloombern. 316 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: Like every guy who's like, look, this is the seventh 317 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: pick of the draft, like, let's not give up on him. 318 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: He's here, he's healthy, Let's see what we can do 319 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: with him. And so he's going to have big guards, 320 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: you know, and that's just he's going to have a 321 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: big offensive line. They're going to be at least three 322 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: thirty across, you know, and for the most part, and 323 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: so let's give him a look. It's it's not a guarantee, 324 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: but Von's gonna get a very good chance to make 325 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: this team, whether it's a starter, or some sort of 326 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: a role player, a depth player. He's gonna get a 327 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: chance with this regime to make this team and show 328 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: that maybe it's not a bust. Let's let's give him 329 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: another shot. 330 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 2: All right, let's go jump to the defensive side of 331 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: the ball. 332 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: Here, bald the Giants let Bobby Okaraca go and they 333 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: bring in Tremade Edmonds over from the bear. So I 334 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: think they would have liked to keep if his if 335 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: his number wasn't so high in terms of the cap. 336 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a player that's been remarkably consistent. 337 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: He's I interviewed him last week. 338 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: Man. He is big. 339 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: He's probably bigger than keyvon Thibodeau. He's big, he's long, 340 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: he's thick. He's gonna give you what you want against 341 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: the run. Maybe a change of direction isn't isn't fantastic, 342 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: but it's certainly good enough to carry tight ends. I 343 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: think he'll be a really good piece and at a 344 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: physical piece in the middle of this Giants defense as 345 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: they trying to get better against the run. 346 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: Well with two operative words, because this is across the board. 347 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: Big and physical. That's what John wants. That's what he 348 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 3: got when they traded for ro Quand Smith. But but Tremaine, Like, 349 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: there's just something about guys that can get in the 350 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: pass line because of their length. You can't like you 351 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: just mentioned it when you met him, Like you're impressed 352 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: by his size. You're gonna see that. They're gonna be 353 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 3: looking good go through the airport. But the thing about 354 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: Tremaine is he's been an eight year player in this league, 355 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: you know, and you know and wherever he's been, whether 356 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: it's Buffalo, Chicago, like he he covers a lot of ground. 357 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: It's hard to throw those layered passes in the middle 358 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 3: of the field. It's hard to get it all over 359 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 3: his head. It just is. And so he covers a 360 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: lot of ground and he's been very consistent. He's made 361 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: I think he's got eight straight years of one hundred 362 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: plus tackles. John he's been healthy. Like there's a good 363 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: track record to bring Tremaine in. 364 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question about it. And you know he'll wear 365 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: the green dot. It's something he's done before. And again, 366 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: I just think with the Giants difficulty stopping to run 367 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: the last few years, Baldy, I think it was gonna 368 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: start at middle linebacker, and I think that's a pretty 369 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: good place to start given his physicality. 370 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's an every down player. You know, 371 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 3: you mentioned the passing game. You got you got to 372 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: be good in the passing game. You got to be 373 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: able to line up and cover tight ends. He's been 374 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: able to do that. Sometimes it's running backs coming out 375 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: of the backfield, depending on the coverage and then but 376 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: you need to need a guy that can go sideline 377 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: to sideline and clean up and so uh, I think 378 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: he's got all of the length that you want that 379 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: you're looking for, uh, and enough mobility just to be 380 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: able to cover and you know, get guys to the ground. 381 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: They've got to get much better against the run. It's 382 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 3: gonna you know, a middle linebacker. You want to see him, 383 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: you know, get those solo tackles. Just come down, take 384 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: on the guards, take on the center coming at you, 385 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: disengage and make these tackles. Jamaine, He's made a living 386 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: doing it. 387 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I really like the ar Darius Washington signing Baldi. It 388 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: was for very little money. He's a core special team er. 389 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Now he's only five eight point eighty, he's thatt trouble 390 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: staying healthy. I'm sure that has something to do with 391 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: the size, but it probably something to do with his 392 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: play style too, Bald. He his play style is fun. 393 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: This guy runs around, he fires at people, he blitzes, 394 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: he takes on blockers at the line of scrimmage. 395 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: He plays all over the place. 396 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Ardarius Washington is a player, and the Giants might run 397 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: his three safety defense here. He could have a pretty 398 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: decent role in his defense if he stays healthy. 399 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 3: I agree. You know, he was part of a defense 400 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: that was number one defensive football a couple of years ago. 401 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: And you know, he can play safety, he can play 402 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 3: the nickel, he can play up into line of scrimmage. 403 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: He's very versatile. He did get hurt last year. A 404 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: year before though, he started ten to seventeen games, and 405 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 3: he was a big part of their success defensively. And 406 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: so you know, he can play multiple roles. He's going 407 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 3: to be a core special team player. Like let's just see, 408 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: let's see what he's got, like I, you know, and John, Like, 409 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: you know, obviously, this it's a warm you know, connected 410 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: dots here with John. And obviously he impressed John the 411 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: type of player he was. That's why he's here. He's 412 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 3: not anywhere else. You know, you sometimes you just naturally 413 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: get these guys that follow the coaches that just coached him. 414 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: You see him throughout the league right now with all 415 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: the coaching changes, get guys that honestly the coach once like, 416 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 3: he'll go to bat for me, And that's what John's doing. 417 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: He's going to bat for our Darius here because he's 418 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: been a good player. He came out of a good 419 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: college program, you know, and so, and he's versatile. 420 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: And then great Newsom the corner. 421 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: Al. 422 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: I'll get to the other safety in a second, but 423 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: Newsom's the kind of the other big ticket at him 424 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: on defense, Baldi And look if you put him in pressman, 425 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: let him be physical and let him try to mirror. 426 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: He's a pretty darn good outside cornerback. And more importantly, 427 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: he can also play in the slot, where I think 428 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: maybe he's played his best ball as a pretty physical 429 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: inside corner. 430 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. He Uh, that's what Jim Schwartz did in Cleveland. Uh, 431 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: they were very good at it. He was good at it. 432 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: Was weird he got traded last year, you know, after 433 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: the season started. It didn't really fit with what Jacksonville 434 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: was doing. It was a bad fit. They needed a body. 435 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: He was available. They made the trade. But prior to that, 436 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: he was he was a press man corner that he's 437 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: six foot, he's one hundred and ninety pounds. He's excellent 438 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: at doing it, you know. That's that's what he specializes in. 439 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 3: They were very weak at corner life last year. There's 440 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: you've got to be able to challenge receivers and quarterbacks 441 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: in this league. It does. It's not every game and 442 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 3: it's not every play, but you've got to have guys 443 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: that can play that style of football. And that's that's 444 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: what John wants to do. I think that's what you'll 445 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: see Dinard. Do you know he's he certainly knows what 446 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: a good corner looks like. This is a very good 447 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: player and in the right scheme, he's going to fit perfectly. 448 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 449 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 450 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 451 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: you should talk to Citizens. 452 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care. 453 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: I'd like to learn about a milliar team. 454 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I knew I could help make sense of your 455 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: money with Citizens. Yeah, I know. 456 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: I think that's what Donard Wilson wants to do right. 457 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: He might play a lot of quarters baalds a lot 458 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: of times. Quarters just looks like man, right, you talk 459 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: about that matchup, man, I think exactly right. If you 460 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: put those corners tied up at the line of scrimmage, 461 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: he's gonna fit that system just fine. 462 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, he can. He can you know, bump and run. 463 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 3: He can play off man. But that's you know, you 464 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: watch his foot quickness, his ability to read routes, break 465 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 3: on the ball. He's got everything you want there. He's 466 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: not afraid to challenge receivers, get his hands on guys. 467 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 3: That's what they practiced. That's what they did in Cleveland. Uh, 468 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: that's what he did a little bit when he first 469 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: got to Jacksonville. This is a good signing. He's going 470 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: into a sixth season. I think right now, he's still 471 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 3: a young player. He's been healthy for the most part. 472 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 3: So like this is a this is a very very 473 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 3: good signing, and it's really kind of a window to 474 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: how they want to play defense right now. 475 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: I was happy to see Jason Pinnock back, to be 476 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: honest with you, ball the a guy that can be 477 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: a physical player in the other line of scrimmage. I 478 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: think he can be another piece that kamp Men's Washington 479 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: is a potential third safety, no. 480 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: Question about it. He had a good season last year 481 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: in San Francisco. I think he started probably almost half 482 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 3: the games. But this is this is what you're seeing 483 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: in parts of the league, like keep the door open. 484 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: Keep the door open, like you know what you're getting. 485 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: Good special team player can play a variety of role 486 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: in the secondary, but a dependable player and keep the 487 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: door open. Welcome him back right here. Joe Shane knows 488 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 3: them very well. He's well liked in the building. You 489 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: draft the guy, you go, you still remember what the 490 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: college tape looks like. You know what he did for you. 491 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: It's whatever they got changed in San Francisco with defensive coordinators, 492 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: this stuff happens. Keep the door open to a guy 493 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: that you're familiar with, and I think that's why he's back. 494 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. 495 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: And then special teams, Tony, I'm Brian. I'm not gonna 496 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: make you go through all of these. But they bring 497 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: back a couple of core guys and are green. They 498 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: bringing Elijah Campbell from the Dolphins, Zire Barnes back, they 499 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: get a new punter and Jordan's Stout, they get Jason 500 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Sanders a new place Giger. 501 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: Clearly Chris Horton. 502 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 1: And John Harbaugh want to try to remake this Special 503 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Teams in their image. Obviously a part of the game 504 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: that's near and dear to the heart of the Giants 505 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: head coach. 506 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I've known John since he came with 507 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: Andy Reid to Philadelphia. John and you know, he came 508 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: in a special teams coach, and I don't know how 509 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: many times he won the award, but like he never 510 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: gets very far away from Special Teams. It's still a 511 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: little bit of his baby. Chris Horton has been there 512 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: with them. You know. In Baltimore, the kicking game was 513 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 3: disaster for the Giants for the most part. Like you know, 514 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: you get Jordan Stout, like he led the league in punting, 515 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: He's the Pro Bowl punter. Like that's so important in 516 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: this league field position. You just think about the things 517 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: that you can do. They got a kicker that, up 518 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 3: until the injury this year, was about as consistent as 519 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: you get in this business. So let's firm up the 520 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: kicking game. Let's because at the end of the day, 521 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: you want to win two games because of your special teams, John, 522 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: But you don't want to lose two games. And you 523 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 3: can certainly say last year the Giants lost a couple 524 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 3: games because of special team. So as stop, that's let's 525 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: get core guys, let's understand, let's make sure they understand 526 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: their role. Let's get a proven punter and kicker in here, 527 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 3: Let's get the operations sound, let's work the hell out 528 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 3: of it, because let's the kicking game is back in 529 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,959 Speaker 3: in the NFL with the new rules. Field position is 530 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: you start your field position for that position after thirty 531 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: five or forty yard line, you're first down away from 532 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: being in scoring territory. Like, you got to start thinking 533 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 3: about field position and kickoff coverage, how you approached the kickoff. 534 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: Like I remember last year in the offseason they spent 535 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: more time on that kickoff rule than I think any 536 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: other team in the league. The number of reps they 537 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: spent on it, John was huge, And so you'll see 538 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: that in practice this year. How much time they spend 539 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 3: on kickoff coverage and pinning them inside the thirty yard line. 540 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, no question about it. I think it'll be important. 541 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: Kayla Murphy. 542 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: Another score special team and that'll be back And then 543 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: I forgot to mention baldy Mike McFadden. 544 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 2: I think it's a good guy to put next. 545 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: To Tremaine Edmunds there in the middle as you try 546 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: to shore up that run defense. 547 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: Mike is a good player. You know, he's very versatile. 548 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 3: He's worked his way up, you know, from probably practice 549 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 3: squad when he first got here to the Giants, through 550 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: a different defensive coordinators. You got to just keep showing up. 551 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: And you're right, like, we'll see what happens in the draft. 552 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: A lot of good middle linebackers in this draft. I'm 553 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: sure the Giants are taking a hard look at a 554 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: lot of them. You know, you start talking about the draft, 555 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: and you know in mock drafts and stuff, you know 556 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: a lot of guys. But regardless, Michael McFadden is a 557 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: guy that can play in a variety of roles. He's 558 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: been a core special team player. He's dependable guy middle linebacker, 559 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: and maybe maybe that's what you line up two off 560 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: the well in side linebackers with Tremaine and Micah to 561 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: start this off season. 562 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bodie Weaveianna get either before right after the draft. 563 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: Just what are your thoughts now? What are the biggest 564 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: needs remaining for the Giants moving forward, and where do 565 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: you think they might look in the draft or maybe 566 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: any more free agency moves that might come down the wall. 567 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the good thing about what we just 568 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: discussed here, honestly is they basically filled a lot of 569 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: glaring holes, all right, you know, whether it's slot, receiver, 570 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: middle linebacker, you know, corner. I mean, they filled a 571 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: lot of holes. But you know, like all drafts, you 572 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: got a fifth pick in the draft, you want to 573 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,880 Speaker 3: find a starter and a guy that has value. There's 574 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: offensive linemen that fit that role. There's off the ball 575 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: inside linebackers that fit that role. There's a receiver that 576 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: fits that role. If you want a guy opposite Malik 577 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 3: right now, that could be a number two. Like, there's 578 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: guys right now where you can go, and you know, 579 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 3: I can you can throw the names out there, but 580 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: that's not really important at this point. It's important for 581 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: John and Joe right now to really end on to 582 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: really see value at that fifth pick, a guy that 583 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: can come in here and start for you. I got 584 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: to remember when the Ravens drafted Jonathan Ogden, they had 585 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: two tackles at the time. You know, he played left 586 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 3: guard his first year, you know, and there went became 587 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame left tackle. But like some of 588 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: these linemen can play outside, they can play inside. And 589 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: so if you want to upgrade the position at guard, 590 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: you know, there's guys out there that could come in 591 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: here and start for you, and you could they can 592 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: start with maybe they stay at guard, maybe they go 593 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: to tackle down the road, who knows, but you want 594 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: to The offense line is going to be so important 595 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 3: to this team, whether it's how they run the football, 596 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: how they protect Jackson Dart, like I could see I 597 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: can see a position like that, you know, in this draft. 598 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: But but regardless, they fill these holes defensively where you 599 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 3: can take a guy where you don't have to like 600 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: take a position of deep. You could take the very 601 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: best player that's there at number five, or trade out 602 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: of the whatever you want to do. You've got a 603 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 3: lot of flexibility right now. 604 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Boli also a running back could be in that 605 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: mix too. I'm starting to get the calls. I'm having 606 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: flashbacks to twenty eighteen already, ye save debates. 607 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look there's a kid at Notre Dame who 608 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: just as soon as you turn the tape on. John, 609 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 3: Now you are at the combine. As soon as the 610 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: tape gets turned on, You're like, he just looks different. 611 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 3: He looks like some of these guys we see in 612 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: the league. John knows what great running backs look like. 613 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 3: They just had there Henry there. You know what Bijon 614 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: looks like. You know, I mean, there's just Saque looks like. 615 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just there's a guy. He reminds you 616 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: of them when you watch his kid play. 617 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: Baldy. 618 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Tell the folks everything you have going on and where 619 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: they can find everything you're up to. 620 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 3: Right now? Yeah, you know, I'll be on the NFL 621 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: network on the Insiders. I'll be part of their draft 622 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: coverage out there in LA. I'll be teaching at the 623 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: broadcast boot camp, a lot of ex players coming and 624 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: trying to get into this industry. I'll be doing my 625 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: breakdowns on players for the next five weeks leading up 626 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: to the draft here. So I'm out there just trying 627 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: to find good players for the Giants and other teams 628 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: around the league. Right now. 629 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: Wow, it's amazing. It really only is five and a 630 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: half weeks until the draft. You just said it. I 631 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 2: just looked at it. How was it only five and 632 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: a half weeks. That's crazy. 633 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's uh, but it's uh, you know, it's 634 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: it's a fun time of the year because you know, 635 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: as much as we sort of mock the mocks, I 636 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 4: think everybody looks at them. You just do, and you 637 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: you I think the teams look at them, the players 638 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: look at them, yourself, myself, We're all looking at the 639 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: little changes and you're thinking about this could happen, that 640 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 4: would be a good fit. 641 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: And so we're gonna do a lot of that between 642 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: now and uh, you know, that first Thursday, that big 643 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: Thursday night in April, and this is uh, this is 644 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 3: you know. I just hope the Giants, you know, uh 645 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: do their homework here and see things the way uh, 646 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, build the best team possible. Right now, the 647 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: roster's gonna look a whole lot different than already does. 648 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: Or are we gonna get a Brian Bolding or mock draft 649 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: at NFL dot Com at some point? 650 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: Are you we'll probably get it. I don't know if 651 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a full first round, but certainly like 652 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: the top fifteen, which would include the Giants. 653 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Nice baldy, good stuff. My friend, the enjoy your off season. 654 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: Thank you, John Talk John's on. 655 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: The podcast brought to you by Citizens, The Baldi Breakdown Edition, 656 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: the official Bank of the Giants. 657 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Thanks you for being with us. Everybody, We'll see you 658 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: next time.