WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Right Here Right Now

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Booth Podcast the right here, right now. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no other place I wanna be. Addition, as the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals look to capitalize on a six game stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>their schedule in which four of the games are against

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<v Speaker 1>teams with a combined record of nine and twenty eight Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants, the Cowboys, and the Texans coming up, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Lapham joins me to discuss how the Bengals are handling

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<v Speaker 1>positive COVID tests among players and coaches, and the teeter

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<v Speaker 1>totter that aj Green and te Higgins have been on.

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<v Speaker 1>My one on one player interview is with Mike Daniels,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll find out if he agrees with my prediction

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<v Speaker 1>that he has headed toward a highly successful career in

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting when his playing days are finished. And in our

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<v Speaker 1>know the faux segment, I'll ask Washington radio voice Bram

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<v Speaker 1>Weinstein if he ever slips and accidentally says Redskins. The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. Refresh

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<v Speaker 1>since none. During the pandemic, we've tried to support local

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants by getting takeout once or twice a week, including

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<v Speaker 1>occasional trips to our favorite Indian restaurant. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>fan of Indian food, and for me, the best part

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<v Speaker 1>of the meal is the non the oven baked flatbread.

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<v Speaker 1>There used to be an Indian restaurant in town that

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<v Speaker 1>served a non which a sandwich on none that might

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<v Speaker 1>have been the greatest sandwich in history. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a restaurant to or in the Cincinnati area, put

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<v Speaker 1>a nonwich on your menu and I will beat a

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<v Speaker 1>path to your door. Now let's get to my conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Dave Lapham. It's been a turbulent week and a

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<v Speaker 1>half for the Bengals, largely due to COVID nineteen. They

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<v Speaker 1>did not have Fred Johnson last week, they did not

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<v Speaker 1>have Marcus Hunt last week. They did not have several

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<v Speaker 1>of their coaches, including four that they thought they would

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<v Speaker 1>have until game day. Stuff to overcome it is, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they're they're flying out to Pittsburgh. Coach takes

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<v Speaker 1>off his mask to eat. You know, they have their

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<v Speaker 1>masks on even when they fly. Duffner's sitting across from

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<v Speaker 1>them and a linebacker coach sitting behind them. Both those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are contact traced, and I mean they're woken up

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<v Speaker 1>like in the wee hours on the morning to tell them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've got a situation here. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>part of contact tracing. Stay in your rooms, quarantine until

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<v Speaker 1>further no and then earlier a few hours later, they're

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<v Speaker 1>told get rental cars, al golden and marked. After they

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<v Speaker 1>have to get rental cars, one each drive back separately

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<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati. Crazy and Dan. When you have guys that

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<v Speaker 1>were as experienced as these guys head coaches both have

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<v Speaker 1>been former head coaches during the course of a game,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean their eyes, experienced eyes are valuable. They're experienced,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just having all the experiences of being a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach as well as coordinator and position coach and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else for all those years. When you're making adjustments

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<v Speaker 1>and adjustments to adjustments as that game goes on. That

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<v Speaker 1>that's a factor, you know, and players like to come

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<v Speaker 1>off the field and have the same coach that they're

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to when they come off the field, and all

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<v Speaker 1>that change. Am I saying that's the reason that Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>thumped them? Hell no, I mean they didn't do anything right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no any one of the three phases. Nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>any of the three phases stepped up and played modicum

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<v Speaker 1>of a game that would have been worthy of a

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<v Speaker 1>victory in Pittsburgh. But all of these things are facts,

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly didn't help the cause. I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that for sure. Because of the positive tests coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the buy. Nothing has been normal since. Their

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<v Speaker 1>meetings have all been virtual, their practices have been disjointed.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been wearing masks at practice. It's unprecedented. Teams have

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<v Speaker 1>never gone through anything like this before. Let's hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Von Bell about the Bengals trying to deal with these

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<v Speaker 1>COVID issues. Man, we're in a weird time and you

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<v Speaker 1>never know, how can you get the virus whatnot? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's weird. But when you get close contact,

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<v Speaker 1>they track it with those tracers and and so you

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<v Speaker 1>could be next to somebody for five minutes and then

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<v Speaker 1>got do in close contact and you could be knocked

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's always the next play, next man of mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like man, and it affects the whole group because

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, we're not getting that time together. We

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<v Speaker 1>could spend the meetings and really break down of how

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<v Speaker 1>can we do this and get detailed and what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do in the game because all on zoom and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting enough reps sometimes and it's just crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you just gotta find a way because

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares about that. Like my old coach's telling me, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of the world I don't care about your problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten percent care that you got them, and we just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta figure out to produce on Sunday and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's the end of it, and we just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>find a way. Let's talk specifically about zoom meetings. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>and just about every walk of life is doing them

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<v Speaker 1>these days. But when it comes to a game plan

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<v Speaker 1>and a team football setting, how much do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they're missing by not being in a room discussing exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going to do against the next opponent. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know you can you can still follow

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<v Speaker 1>the grease board in a zoom with the coach up

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<v Speaker 1>there at the grease board. You can watch tape, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on zoom with a coach. It's you know, the meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the big thing to me is when they go

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<v Speaker 1>on in the field, like you said, they go out

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<v Speaker 1>and shifts. So the offense will come in, and the

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<v Speaker 1>offense go out for a walkthrough, they'll leave, Defense comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>defense goes out for a walkthrough, they leave, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they all reconvene a few hours later for a practice

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so, and right now they're in the stiffest

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<v Speaker 1>protocols possible because they've had positive tests. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the stiffest scenario schedule wives that you can go through.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh was going through it. That's why with Ben not

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<v Speaker 1>practice or you know, he had treatment. That's all he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to do anyway, and he went out and played. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna not take credit away from for doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that whole thing was overrated. He couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have done any more than he did anyway. COVID or

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<v Speaker 1>no COVID and he's in his seventeenth year. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's there's no that was no. Uh that was

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's like, oh, my gosh, it's just unbelievable. Ben didn't practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben hasn't practiced a bunch of weeks during the course

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<v Speaker 1>of his seventeen year career and then gone out and

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<v Speaker 1>played on game day. Right, he said so many times

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<v Speaker 1>he just stands behind watching the other quarterbacks, and that's helpful. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, he's getting mental reps, you know. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line was, in my opinion after watching it again,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals played zone every time. You know, Pittsburgh went

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<v Speaker 1>jet sweep motioning guys. Nobody went with them, so they

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<v Speaker 1>knew right away of the playing zone defense. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>just playing soft. I mean, forget cushion. They were giving

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<v Speaker 1>counties up. It wasn't just cushion. And part of that

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<v Speaker 1>is if you're getting beaten, you know, I remember coaches

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<v Speaker 1>many times pushing the defensive backs in practice, get up there,

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<v Speaker 1>get up there. I don't want you given an eight

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<v Speaker 1>yard cushion. I'm talking like four yards. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>do well your natural instinct when you think that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a guy that's a good receiver in Pittsburgh had

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<v Speaker 1>three of them, and the defensive backs that were playing

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<v Speaker 1>a corner weren't necessarily all starting corners. Your tendency is

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<v Speaker 1>to back up. I remember one time in an All

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<v Speaker 1>Star game, had a cornerback that was getting torched by

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<v Speaker 1>this wide receiver who's damn good on the other team,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously going to a big Division one school. The kid

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<v Speaker 1>lined up from the they have the ball at the

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<v Speaker 1>eight yard line. The receiver lines up our defensive backs

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<v Speaker 1>two yards in the end zone. He's given him ten yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Be's so scared. It's like, there's no field from to

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<v Speaker 1>run behind you. What are you doing? But he's Your

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<v Speaker 1>natural reaction is to back up, and that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals were doing in the secondary. When I watched this, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, they just basically didn't didn't really feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I can make place here. I got all the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in the world. I mean, they were they were

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<v Speaker 1>playing defensive defense. I mean they weren't. They weren't playing

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<v Speaker 1>offensive defense. I can tell you that they weren't aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very, very not aggressive in their posture, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ben took full advantage of it. But yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, crazy times. There's no other way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's whatever can Murphy's Law is twenty twenty with COVID nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever can happen will happen, and you better be ready

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<v Speaker 1>for all of it. And you know, Zach mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today on Zoom conference calls that press conferences that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>during training camp they had all these things in place.

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<v Speaker 1>If this guy goes down, this guy's taken it, and

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<v Speaker 1>every team had to do that. You have to go

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<v Speaker 1>all the way through your coaching staff and have plan B, C,

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<v Speaker 1>D all the way to z. Yeah, it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to make a plan, it's another thing to actually have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it or the guy that's never done that

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<v Speaker 1>job before. I also wonder about the state of anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>because of the positive tests and all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened over the last nine or ten days. We

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<v Speaker 1>get tested once a week as NFL Tier three employees.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got to Paul Brown Stadium. There's a trailer outside,

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<v Speaker 1>You go into the trailer, you get your test, you

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<v Speaker 1>leave immediately, and then sometime overnight you get an email

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<v Speaker 1>that your results are in. You go to this website,

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<v Speaker 1>you check the website and you get your result. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've had no symptoms. I feel great. Nobody in my

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<v Speaker 1>immediate family has tested positive and Yeah, there's always a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny bet of anxiety for me when I click that link,

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<v Speaker 1>just to know for sure that I'm not positive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's unfortunately, it's a fact of COVID life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's it's the uncertain. Here's what you're dealing with,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is it's an unusual time. And as said

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<v Speaker 1>from the very beginning of this, the teams and the

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<v Speaker 1>coaches and players that can pivot the best and avoid

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<v Speaker 1>over infection of COVID nineteen are the ones that are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna gonna survive in advance. It's a it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a much different ballgame. There's no doubt. Last week's lost

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh wasn't a good day for anybody, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was a particularly tough day for AJ Green. He was

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<v Speaker 1>targeted five times in that game and did not have

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<v Speaker 1>a single catch. Here's head coach Zach Taylor on the

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<v Speaker 1>status of AJ Green. We have a really deep receiving

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<v Speaker 1>corps and so it's a benefit for the quarterback where

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to be dialed into just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get a ball to somebody. He can just throw to

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<v Speaker 1>the open man. And you know, so again it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's part of the way it goes. I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>predicted that this could happen for a couple of guys

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<v Speaker 1>as the season goes, where a guy has eight catches

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<v Speaker 1>one game and has zero the next game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And so again we just are careful enough to overreact

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Aj Green did have eight catches in one game,

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<v Speaker 1>the Indianapolis game, eight catches for ninety six yards. Came

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<v Speaker 1>back the next week had seven catches and a very

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<v Speaker 1>solid game against the Cleveland Browns. But really that's been

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<v Speaker 1>it this year. Yeah, it's still still kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>work in progress. The one thing I will say is

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<v Speaker 1>he's drawn the number one corner again, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he was, he was matched up in that scenario. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said before, he used to draw the number

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<v Speaker 1>one as well as tilting his safety over there. That

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<v Speaker 1>is not happening as much. I think they paid a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention to Tyler Boyd and as a result,

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<v Speaker 1>he Higgins benefited. So there's a trickle down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trickle up, trickle down. When you have three good ones,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you can't double all of them. Somebody's going

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<v Speaker 1>to have the day. Who are they? Who are they

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<v Speaker 1>going to try to take out of the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>who are they going to try to see who can

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<v Speaker 1>they might be able to handle more one on one.

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<v Speaker 1>They do feel like most teams do feel like putting

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<v Speaker 1>their number one corner on AJ eliminates them and then

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<v Speaker 1>they can play accordingly coverage wives with the other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So until AJ starts UH, you know, ramping it up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit in terms of production and UH and

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<v Speaker 1>makes people change their mind. It is good to get

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<v Speaker 1>that number one corner removed from the process, but like

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<v Speaker 1>to see AJ break out of it. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>he has lost a half a step because he's thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two or because he missed the last year and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's both. I think it's at the double whammy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you lose when you're when you're off

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<v Speaker 1>the field and out of the game for that long

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<v Speaker 1>a time frame, and you're also hitting that magic year

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty and you know, getting into those into those

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<v Speaker 1>early adult years as such, it's hard. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is a combination, and it's it's a combination you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have to experience. And I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going through the process now of having experienced it and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come out the other end on the flip side.

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<v Speaker 1>Te Higgins had the best game of his NFL career,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in terms of catches. He had a career

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<v Speaker 1>high seven grabs, targeted nine times, finished with one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen receiving yards, including a touchdown. Let's hear from

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Boyd on his rookie teammate, te Higgins. He really

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<v Speaker 1>can be a very special player in this league. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just gotta be more detail in a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's saw a rookies have to work on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I think he's hit it in the

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<v Speaker 1>right direction so far. So the the skuy thelema for him.

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<v Speaker 1>We were told before this draft that it might be

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<v Speaker 1>the best wide receiver crop in history. Man, it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like they got that right because most of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were selected in the first two rounds are having

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic rookie years. Yeah, they really are. And U te Higgins,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tyler Boyd hit it on the head, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little more attention to detail. First play the game

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<v Speaker 1>penalty a little bit later in the game fumble and

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<v Speaker 1>that's stunned te Higgins. I mean, he does not fumble.

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<v Speaker 1>He hadn't fumbled a while, and he was like wooh,

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<v Speaker 1>but he got over it. You know, the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>he had the penalty and had the fumble. Two things

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do. You don't want to cost

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<v Speaker 1>your team yards. You don't want to cost your team

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<v Speaker 1>to football. And what did he do? Responded to the diversity?

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<v Speaker 1>Made plays. You know, it's good to see him have

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<v Speaker 1>that mental toughness to absorb when it's not going well, compartmentalized,

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<v Speaker 1>move on and play. And he played well. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of positives there. Eliminate those couple of negatives and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have as good a game as you can possibly have.

0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.200
<v Speaker 1>He's on a pace to have more than a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>receiving yards his rookie year. Tyler Boyd. His success obviously

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<v Speaker 1>speaks for itself. He's got sixty catches this season for

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<v Speaker 1>that third spot. Obviously, AJ is still the guy for now.

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<v Speaker 1>But do the Bengals have to consider rotating Odd and

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<v Speaker 1>Tate in more frequently or Mike Thomas in that spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't think it's to that point yet, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, I mean, at some point in time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a meritocracy. You know, and I think AJS is

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<v Speaker 1>acutely aware of that as anybody. The Bengals are one

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<v Speaker 1>of six teams in the NFL. They have three different

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<v Speaker 1>guys with five hundred scrimmage yards and more. AJ is

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<v Speaker 1>automatic in that in that role. Call not this year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's mixing Still and Boyden Higgins and AJ Green

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't even have four hundred yards, you know if

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage yards just barely over three hundred. So he's at

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<v Speaker 1>a different place on the totem pole. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to love to see him have a breakout game,

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<v Speaker 1>uh when when it's least expected. I'd like to see

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<v Speaker 1>it happen more than once. I'd love to see it

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<v Speaker 1>happen against one of the division opponents that have left

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh in Baltimore, because he's had those kind of games

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<v Speaker 1>against him before. Twenty nine year old Quentin Spain was

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<v Speaker 1>picked up a few weeks ago after being let go

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<v Speaker 1>by the Buffalo Bills, and he certainly had an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>first two games as a member of the Bengals. After

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<v Speaker 1>joining the team on a Friday, he wound up playing

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<v Speaker 1>most of the game in the victory over the Tennessee Titans,

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<v Speaker 1>and then this past week, due to the absences of

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Hart and Fred Johnson, the Bengal's top two options

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<v Speaker 1>at right tackle, he had to play that position really

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in an NFL game. He'd played

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of snaps, but nothing significant until last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and he played extremely well. Here's Michael Jordan on his

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<v Speaker 1>new teammate Quentin Spain. It doesn't even compare how impressed

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I mean, oh, my goodness for him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to play against the Titans and I

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<v Speaker 1>went down sick with colleidis, and you know, he just

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<v Speaker 1>got there. What there had to be three days, three days,

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<v Speaker 1>knee comes in. He has a hell of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this guy is the real deal. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to learn as much as possible from him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm truly impressed by him and his experience as a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran offensive linement in NFL. What was more impressive coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and playing in two days or going out and

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<v Speaker 1>playing right tackle. Well, they're both impressive, honestly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he did a tremendous job at right tackle as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Quinton Spain, he knows, he knows defenses, he knows you

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<v Speaker 1>know the playbook, and he knows how to react to

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<v Speaker 1>different defenses on what they're doing. So he's just an

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<v Speaker 1>impressive guy all around. How well did he do it right? Tackle?

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<v Speaker 1>Very well? I mean, what is legit? And a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times he buckled him, I mean he covered him up.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a good job. Now you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of sacks to what gout. One of them was on

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<v Speaker 1>a twist, a te twist tackle penetrated Redman staying on

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<v Speaker 1>the tackle a little bit too long when he hit

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<v Speaker 1>them off to Spain and what being so quick, Redman

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't react back inside, So that doesn't go as a

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<v Speaker 1>downgrade to Spain because he was blocking the tackle that

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up having to block. And you know the

0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.600
<v Speaker 1>other sack that Watt was involved with, Joe Barrows climbing

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. He kind of clouded with Trey Hopkins a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and held on to the ball probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too longer than than would have liked. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually walk got a piece of that action. But I mean, Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this is the most unusual and incredible storyline

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<v Speaker 1>an offensive lineman's ever had here in this franchise. They

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<v Speaker 1>come off the Street and in three days Friday Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>play on Sunday. I have a walkthrough on Saturday and

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<v Speaker 1>a coach's office with other coaches and other players in

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line. Tells me that what he's got Dan

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<v Speaker 1>is he's got the feel for the game. He's got instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees the big picture, I mean the total picture,

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<v Speaker 1>though the picture window. It's it's not a little porthole.

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<v Speaker 1>He sees it all. And Willie Anderson was like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Willie saw the game, you know, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys in Spain, Spain has that has that ability, and

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<v Speaker 1>Adenogy as well. I mean he's playing next to Adenagy

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<v Speaker 1>in the Tennessee game and then the bye week and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's a bookend tackle with a Dentagy And as

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis Green said, they were who we thought they were

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<v Speaker 1>and we let him off the hook. Identagy is who

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was. And once he actually got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go in a game and play without any

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<v Speaker 1>preseason games, he's who I thought he was. Identagy has

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<v Speaker 1>done a good job at left tackle. And if Jonah

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<v Speaker 1>Williams could have if he could have played instead of

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<v Speaker 1>just being an emergency guid, Adenagy would have been the

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<v Speaker 1>right tackle. Jonah would have been the left tackle, but

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<v Speaker 1>Identagy stayed at left tackle, and they said, ask Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, let's go. And I thought Identagy acquitted himself

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<v Speaker 1>well with Dupris and uh, I thought that Spain did

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<v Speaker 1>well with Wat as well. Michael Jordan's the left guard,

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Alex Redman is the right guard. Do you see those

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<v Speaker 1>two guys holding off Quentin Spain for a starting spot

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the way this year? That's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great question what I would do. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a believer in if you have shown you

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<v Speaker 1>can play, play him some rottum in why not play

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.879
<v Speaker 1>all three of them? Just rote every every series. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>two guys play one sits, then just rotate them, rotate

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<v Speaker 1>them every series in there, because at some point somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go down again, whether it's COVID nineteen injury or whatever.

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's like we talked about before Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a utility guy. You don't sit them and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for like twenty five thirty games and then

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to come right off the bench and be

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that he you know normally is you have

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<v Speaker 1>to let him. You have to let him still go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and perform. So I think there might be

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation in a couple of categories. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, when Bobby Heart's back, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>in Jonah Identagy, rotat them, rotate those three. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no problem. If there are seven or eight linemen that

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<v Speaker 1>can play, let them play. We know Bengals are patient

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<v Speaker 1>with coaches, to say the least, and this is only

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<v Speaker 1>year two for Zach Taylor, but at some point every

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<v Speaker 1>coach needs to win games, and so far Zach's record

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<v Speaker 1>is four twenty and one. Well, it's gonna have some

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to add some wins to that ledger in the

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<v Speaker 1>weeks to come, because three of the next four games

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<v Speaker 1>are against three of the lousiest teams in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season. Washington this week two and seven,

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<v Speaker 1>then the Giants three and seven. A couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after that Dallas currently two and seven. Houston is still

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<v Speaker 1>on the schedule this year. The Texans are two and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's von Bell on facing some of the weaker teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. We don't even look at the record,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we always think about the next game because

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<v Speaker 1>it's the biggest game, and we just trying to build

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<v Speaker 1>upon and keep on getting better each and every week

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<v Speaker 1>and just trying to stack wins. And that's the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day. That's all we're come to do at

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>work every day. So we don't look at the record.

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<v Speaker 1>We just going to work every day and just getting better,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So that's what they say, that's what they

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 1>always say. But you played the game for twelve years

0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.440
<v Speaker 1>as a pro. How much does a team's record going

0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>into the game affect your mindset? Well, depending on my record.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody's doing that to us. I mean everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>looking as oh, the Bengal I can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the Bengals game. You know, that's that's one we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get. So it's it is, you know, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like on any given Sunday kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's happened. You know, we've had games where how

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<v Speaker 1>do we lose to that football team and it's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean when you are playing a team

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch that has struggled to win football games,

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you have a better opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 1>one of your own. I mean, Zack doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>road win yet. He has a tie against Philadelphia, you know,

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:56.400
<v Speaker 1>that very elusive road win. Maybe this weekend in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be good to get off the schneide. There

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. Does he need to win a few games

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<v Speaker 1>in the final seven weeks of the season. Oh, I

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.639
<v Speaker 1>think so, I think so. You know, it's you know,

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you just you can't continue validation. You can only buy

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<v Speaker 1>in for so long. Words start to get hollow if

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<v Speaker 1>there's not validation of those words and everything that goes

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<v Speaker 1>along with them. Got to get some ws. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>one season that sticks out in my mind, we start

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<v Speaker 1>oh and eight and I don't think I've ever worked

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<v Speaker 1>harder some of those weeks to prepare for a game

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and have no result, No, like a terrible result oh

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<v Speaker 1>and eight. I mean it's like, oh my gosh, man,

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>working too hard for no return on the investment of

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the work. There's nothing worse than that. There's nothing worse

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.960
<v Speaker 1>than that. It's like, you know, if we're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>radio show, prep harder than we've ever prepped to do

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<v Speaker 1>a good show and come on the air and stink

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<v Speaker 1>it out for whatever reason, just stink up the joint

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<v Speaker 1>you know never happened, you know, or a salesperson that's

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<v Speaker 1>out there just you know, going after all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>making cold call after cold call, can't close the sale

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<v Speaker 1>to save his life. You know, it just gets in

0:24:17.560 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>one of those one of those ruts. And the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you get the big bucks when you're struggling

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<v Speaker 1>your job. Everybody knows about it because it's the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. That's why you get paid so handsomely. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is everybody's human beings with the same

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<v Speaker 1>human emotions and the same human feelings. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go work as hard as they're working for no good result.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, you're still getting your paycheck, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not really getting the payday because you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>any w's no pay day. They've certainly been close to

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<v Speaker 1>that payday. The Bengals have taken the lead to the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter in six of their nine games, including every

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<v Speaker 1>game they played outside of the AFC North. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light

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<v Speaker 1>and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor. Now time

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<v Speaker 1>for this week's one on one player interview. This week,

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<v Speaker 1>I caught up with Mike Daniels, who has been chosen

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<v Speaker 1>three times by his peers is one of the top

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>one hundred players in the NFL. Mike, about a week ago,

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you tweeted that you love it here with three smiley

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<v Speaker 1>face emojis and a Jodey hashtag what are you loving?

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy the locker room. I enjoy the fan base.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody really supports the team out here and they love

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<v Speaker 1>they love the Bengals and coach Taylor. I really like

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>coach Taylor Man. He definitely knows how to take care

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<v Speaker 1>of his players, and he cares a polo players as

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<v Speaker 1>a players coach, and he really commands respects in that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, I really do enjoy that. And I like

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that management has been bringing in. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>I really remember looking back and seeing that there's a there.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a theme with the guys that are bringing in,

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and everybody are bringing in has a tough, hard nose demeanor.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's the kind of guy I am. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's always good to be on the same page with

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>your employer. Man, I love it, I really do. Or

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 1>chattingman Mike Daniels. Early this season, you messed up your

0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>elbow in practice and had to miss a few games.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened and how bad was it? I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was a It was just a strain, and it's really

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the same injury that knocked me out put me on

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<v Speaker 1>IR last year. But this time around, I did a

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<v Speaker 1>really good job taking care of it, recovering from it

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well, and I was ready go in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortun I had to miss uh three games, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, I taken care of as we can see

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<v Speaker 1>on the film, and I'm am I feel feeling really good.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been getting more and more snaps every week. You

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<v Speaker 1>had a season high forty two last week against Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're getting back to being the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant player that you've always been? Absolutely, and with the

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>more reps that that definitely happens, and I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really enjoying this process right now. It's it's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>but it takes you back to a good place of

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<v Speaker 1>humility for more areas of growth. So I definitely feel

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>like I'm getting back to a really good place, and

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm in a really good place right now. Definitely,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>progress from the Browns game to the Titans game to

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>last week in Pittsburgh, and really the only issue I

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>have is the fact that we went went and two

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 1>in that span. You just gotta continue to I gotta

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>get some more those wins. I asked Alex Redman about

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<v Speaker 1>you last week, and he said, hitting Mike Daniels is

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<v Speaker 1>like hitting a school bus? Is that what you want

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman to think after they spend a day lined

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>up opposite of you. That's absolutely what I want offensive

0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 1>lineman to think, and to come from a guy like

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>Redman who hitting him is like hitting school bus as well,

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's an awesome compliment. I gotta make sure

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>I give him a hug for us speaking speaking so

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 1>highly of me by saying that. But but that's definitely

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>what you want. You weren't anything. You want the respect

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>from the guys that line up across from you. You

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>can make a whole bunch of plays, but that doesn't

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean you have the respect, right, So you really

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>want the respect of your peers and your brothers out there,

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 1>your brothers in arms and your brothers in combat. And

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that's uh, that's that's what it's all about. Chatting with

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Mike Daniels, if there was a big positive last week

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.400
<v Speaker 1>against the Steelers that were stopping the run twenty carries

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>for forty four yards, did you look at that as

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<v Speaker 1>a big step forward despite the final score. That's that

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>definitely was a step forward, And outside of a couple

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>runs against Tennessee, we did a pretty good job stopping

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>that run as well. So we've been doing a good

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>job with that in the last few weeks here. We

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just have to be more consistent with it and everything

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>else will start to follow with that. You're facing Washington

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>this week, led by quarterback Alex Smith, who's made a

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<v Speaker 1>miraculous recovery after nearly having to have his leg amputated

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago. If you have a chance

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to deliver a clean but brutal hit, well his history

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>enter your mind at all. Well, I'm not a dirty player,

0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 1>so you know I'm not gonna go for the head

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that right now. Those times where you

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>could grab a quarterback by the legs, but those days

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>have done so you don't go for their legs anyway.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's just all about playing football and him being

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<v Speaker 1>the great professional that he is. He's had a lot

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>of sense in NFL. He knows that I'm not necessarily

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>thinking about where a guy had an injury. I'm just

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>focused on delivering the best blow, and that's in the

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>waste to but below the neck area, you know, just

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in that core body, and that's the that's full walls about.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>That's where you're talking to, tackles where you're taught to hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where I'll hit. Mike, You're thirty one, You'll

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 1>be a free agent at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know at this point if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep playing. Absolutely, I definitely want to keep playing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep playing, and your wife and kids are

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>on board. Everybody's on board. Man. We enjoy football. We

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>enjoy playing it. Well, I enjoy playing it. They enjoy

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>watching me out there, and I want to continue to

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.440
<v Speaker 1>provide that. All right, I'm going to make a bold

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>prediction for what I now know is the distant future.

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 1>When you decide to hang it up, you are going

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 1>to thrive as a broadcaster. Does that interest you? Oh?

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I love speaking. I love being in front of camera,

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and I love speaking to people more importantly. So absolutely,

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I definitely look forward into a look forward to getting

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>into doing some form of broadcasting. Rockin talked to some

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 1>of the guys about football and many other topics too.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it's the distant future. Correct, Correct, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate your time, best of luck this week. Thanks thanks

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>for having me look forward to the next time. Mike,

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>just do to be a free agent after the season.

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It would be great if he had a strong second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the year and worked out a deal to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in Cincinnati. Now time for our know the faux segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Bram Weinstein, the former ESPN SportsCenter anchor, is in his

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>first year as the radio voice of the Washington football team,

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<v Speaker 1>and he joined Dave Lapham and me this week on

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Game Plan show. Look up to the XS

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and o's in just a second. But I have to

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>start with this question because it's my fear. On Sunday,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>have you slipped and said Redskins at all? So I

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>put a jar in the booth and we decided that

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone who says the our word has to put twenty

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>bucks in it. Twenty take, yeah, twenty. We've got to

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>make it worthwhile and whatever the total is by the

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>end of the year, it's going to go to a

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>charity that we all agree and decide on. And it

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>hasn't happened one wow, not once I've said it. I

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have a radio show in DC, and I've said it

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a million times in the three hours you know that

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>we do the radio show here. But something it's turned into. Somehow,

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>it's turned into like, you know, how you can turn

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>your brain off and not say a curse word when

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't when you don't want to. Somehow we've been

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>able to control it. It It has not been said once

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 1>on one game day broadcast it's because you you made

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the figure twenty dollars lap and I said we would

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 1>do one dollar this week when it's only one. You

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>don't really care enough. That's right, it has to be worthwhile.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But we've we've gotten through it. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>funny part is that I don't know. I would love

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>to hear your experience with this when because of my

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.360
<v Speaker 1>first year doing this, and I wanted to have some

0:32:56.440 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of touchdown call and I'm limited in my choices

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>are so it's going to end in Washington, you know,

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>no matter what. And so I think I've just kind

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of trained in my brain over and over and over

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 1>just to say, Washington, that's pretty good. That's real good.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a couple of real inspirational stories with

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>this football team. Ron Rivera publicly fighting cancer. That's inspirational,

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>no question about it. And then Alex Smith. What do

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you say about this guy? They should rename the Comeback

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year award, the Alex Smith player, the

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Comeback Player of the Year award. They really should. I mean,

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the guy has thirty eight completions throughout a ninety yards

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>against Detroit, both career highs. What do you say about

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith and what he's done. So it's amazing we're

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>talking today about it because this is the two year anniversary,

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>literally to the day of when the injury happened against Houston,

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and it also happens to be the exact anniversary of

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the date that Joe Eisman broke his leg on Monday

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>night football against the Giants and it ended his career.

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<v Speaker 1>And One, because both of those things happened to you

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>almost arguably two of the best of the maybe five

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks that have come through this organization over that period

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:15.960
<v Speaker 1>of time. One, it tells you how advanced our medicine

0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and training regiments are now that Alex Smith is playing somehow,

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>playing when he almost lost his life, and Joe s.

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Eisman's career was definitively over the second that the practically

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the exact same injury occurred back then, So it tells

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you about progress in the sport and in medicine and

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in recovery, which is amazing in its own right. And secondarily,

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>to answer your question directly, back in the winter and spring,

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.479
<v Speaker 1>when it was pretty clear that he was going to

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>try to give it a go and test his body

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and come back, there was not one single person in

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>or out of the organization that thought he would play

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>football again. They were all really proud of him, and

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>they thought this was an incredible example to set, and

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:01.560
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to keep him around the team, especially with

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>a young quarterback here for mentorship. But no one thought

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he would be playing by the time the summer rolled

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>around and practice, you know, whatever portions of practice we

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>could watch. I'm sure you went to the same thing

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>with the Bengals there. Because of the COVID protocols, it

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>became pretty clear, at least to me, that if they

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 1>actually gave him an opportunity to compete for the job,

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:25.239
<v Speaker 1>he would have had the opportunity to win it. They

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 1>chose not to do that. Like they wanted Dwayne Haskins

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>to win the job, they wanted a clear path for him.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>They brought in no particular competition for him, and they

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>did not think Alex Smith was going to be in

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>his way. Anyone who has seen the documentary of called

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Project eleven about Alex Smith, you can't unsee what you

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>see there. He nearly lost his life. They almost removed

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>his leg. He had a flesh eating bacteria that you

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>can't unsee if you see it. And there's part of me,

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think a lot of us that go, Okay,

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate your proving a point. Why do you have

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to run away from Fletcher Cox. Why don't you just

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>go run an iron man or see in France or

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>do something like that. But he's done this and then

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, in the last two weeks he's

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.240
<v Speaker 1>had back to back three hundred plus yard passing games,

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>one in relief, having had no snaps with First Steamers

0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.040
<v Speaker 1>at all since this, you know, since this recovery began,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and it truly is an inspirational, an amazing story. And

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>he also just happens to be the type of person

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you want in your locker room, whether he's your quarterback

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>or your backup or someone who just works in the organization.

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>So this is beyond an inspirational thing that's occurring here.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Brand Before the injury, Alex Smith was one of the

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.439
<v Speaker 1>most mobile quarterbacks in the NFL. How's his mobility now?

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same. He is able to move, He

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>is able, you know, he uses his acumen and skill

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to get out of trouble and get out of the pocket.

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>But he has not you know, he used to run.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was one of the original run pass

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>option type quarterbacks because you could do that with him.

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>We have and seen a lot of that yet and

0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't get the sense at all that he is

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>interested in trying to figure out if he can do that.

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>And Washington is going out of its way to try

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to protect him as much as possible, not because they

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's unsafe for him to play. They believe

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>that his leg is safe, but I think they know

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that his body cannot handle that level of mobility. And

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>really the big unanswered question here is now that he's

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the starter, at least while they're in it's a playoff

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>race because of their division, at least while they're in

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:32.280
<v Speaker 1>that that we don't know how long he can physically

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:34.400
<v Speaker 1>handle this, Like can he really do this? This is

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>a beware of what you wish for, Like he wanted

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to come back prove something to himself or whoever else. Well,

0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 1>it happened, and now we're asking him to do this

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>for seven, eight, nine weeks, and I don't think anyone

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>knows the answer to whether his body can physically handle that. Well.

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I guess a good way to help him be everybody

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>else step up and the running game. What's the status

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of the running game in Washington? Very poor, very erratic.

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>A couple problems here at one, they have not scored

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>first in any game they've played. They have been down

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>by double digits in almost every game they've played in

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the first half with the absence of Dallas, who came

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>in here completely inept a situation. Outside of that, they've

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:18.560
<v Speaker 1>been behind in every game they play, and so they

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>end up getting away from the running game. They have

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 1>problems along their offensive line, have got a lot of

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.799
<v Speaker 1>injuries that may manifest themselves in a real tough way

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. It happened last week against Detroit, but Morgan Moses,

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>who's their right tackle, had to move to left tackle

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the game because of injuries for

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>both Chair and Kristen and his backup Cornelius Lucas, and

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>that may stay that way this week, so we're not

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.760
<v Speaker 1>sure how that's going to play out. And the running

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>back JD. Mckistick is outstanding out of the back yield

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>as a almost traditional receiving back. He will get some handoffs,

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>but he's never going to be a full workload type

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>running back. Antonio Gibson is the rookie they're really excited about,

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>the third round pick, and he's been outstanding for them,

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but he's transitioning to running back. He took maybe thirty

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>three snaps as a lead back and was mainly used

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>as a wide receiver. They're using him in both roles,

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>but out of the backfield, so he's really learning how

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>to be a running back. So coupled the two problems together.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 1>They get behind in every game that they're in, which

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>forces them to throw the ball to try to come

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>back a lot more. And they have inexperience and injuries

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>across their offensive line, and what you'll see are results

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>that don't look very good on the whole for the

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>running game. A couple more questions for the radio voice

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of the Redskins, Bram Weinstein. There's a lot of interest here,

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>obviously in former Ohio State Buckeye Chase Young, the second

0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft. There were some that thought the

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Bengals should have taken him or traded down and tried

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>to take him in order to get more draft capital.

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.479
<v Speaker 1>How is Chase Young doing in his rookie year? Good? First,

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you have to put twenty bucks in the jar because

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I heard you say the R words, and I really

0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it's only a dollar on our end. Hold that he's

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>been great. He's been everything build is advertised. He's a monster.

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>He is. You'll get one look at him and you'll go, man,

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish that dude was on my team so he

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>could be a game changing type player for them. Now,

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>last week, he owes them one because the reason why

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Detroit won in regulation and it didn't get the overtime

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>was a very bad late roughing the pastercall that was

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>completely unnecessary that gave Detroit a shot on a fifty

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>nine yard field goal. Otherwise they would have been playing

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 1>in overtime after a major comeback against them a week ago,

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>so that one's a little bit on him. Other than that,

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 1>he is typically getting double and triple teamed because you

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>cannot block him one on one. He's got a lot

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of energy, and I think what we like most about

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>him here he's humble, he's team player, he talks work ethic,

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>he wants to get better, he wants to be coached.

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He's one of those first in, last out type of guys.

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing better than when the best athlete on

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the field and it's clear that he's the best athlete

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 1>on the field wants to be that way. And he's

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 1>also walking into a really good situation here, Like if

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>five first round picks on their defensive line, most of

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>which we're young, and unfortunately matt I and I just

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>got hurt for them, is missing the season, he might

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>have been their best interior defensive lineman. Had he been

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>there as well, they would have been even more effective.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.759
<v Speaker 1>But they've spent first round picks in the last four

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>years on two interior defensive linemen at two rush ends,

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>all of which are performing pretty well. It is by

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>far the strength of the team, so they're not asking

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>him to do this as a lone wolf. Collectively, it

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>is their strength. Surprisingly, the trouble that Dave had the

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>last couple of weeks last month is their run defense.

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>So even I don't know what Joe Mixon's situation is,

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 1>but even backup running backs for the Giants, we're having

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.320
<v Speaker 1>easy time moving the ball in the ground against Washington

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that we hope is going to be rectified.

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>But young in itself. We look at him and we go,

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>this could be our Khalil Mack or our JJ Watt.

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned built the defensive line through the draft. Secondary

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>was done in free agency, I mean overhaul the secondary

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and free agency. And Jack del Rio, who I have

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect for, is put together and pretty good,

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty good scheme. It looks like, I mean, number one

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL against the pass, fifth and first downs alloud,

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 1>top ten and you know, multiple categories. Is del Rio?

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Is he made that big an impact? Did the numbers

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 1>justify the way they've been playing? No, they really actually don't,

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're actually their deceptive. Like last week, you can go,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>if you go look at the box score the game

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.759
<v Speaker 1>against the Lions, you will not understand how Washington lost.

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>They ran almost thirty more plays, had twelve thirty more

0:42:38.280 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes time of possession. Like every metric you would look

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>at and barely turn the ball over one So every

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 1>metric you would look at, you go, I don't know

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>how they lost that game the Lions. It's deceptive. The

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Lions were able to move the ball so quickly and

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.920
<v Speaker 1>efficiently against their defense. The time of possession looks skewed

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>that way. It's happened against the Giants twice too, over

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the last month. I don't want to sit here and

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>say that they're you know that they're bad. They're not like,

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>they're clearly an above average group. But it's deceptive when

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you see these stats and say they're number one at

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>this or number one at that. Their record shows you

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that their defense is not as effectives as those stats

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>might suggest, and they do have a lot of work

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to do. And as I mentioned before, the big surprise

0:43:20.640 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>run here is teams that aren't great running teams are

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>running the ball on them pretty easily. They haven't caused

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the turnover in a few weeks. They're not getting anywhere

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.240
<v Speaker 1>near the sack totals that they got. They're having trouble

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>getting pressure with their front four, which should be the

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>thing they had in their hat on. So there's a

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of room for improvement. They're not bad, you know,

0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 1>by any stretch of the imagination, But maybe the bar

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>was just set a little too high because we're expecting

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:47.160
<v Speaker 1>them to be top ten in every way eye test

0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>and statistical test, and they're not meeting that. And they've

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of injuries. And the other part for

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>them that I think would be a concern against Cincinnati

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>is they've given up a ton of deep balls, a ton.

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>When Landon Collins was in there, it was problematic. Even

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>as he's injured, it's been problematic. They have made numerous

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>changes at the safety position. One of the guys who

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>became kind of the main replacement, Duches or Everett, may

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>not be playing this weekend. They've been beaten over the top,

0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.240
<v Speaker 1>over and over and over by teams that are capable

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>of it, and that's a concern this weekend too. The

0:44:20.520 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>number that blows my mind. They've forced eleven fumbles and

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>recovered one. That's almost impossible. They're a little unlucky. Oh

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, it'tle unlucky that way, You'll see. It's it's interesting,

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>like there will be periods of the game. This happens

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 1>every week. I describe them as inconsistent, Like there are

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>periods where you'll watch them and you're like, oh my,

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like they're electric, You're like, oh my, you can't block them.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And then there are periods where you just walk right

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>through them and it's as if it's a completely different

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>team and we just quite can't figure out what's going

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>on here. This is extremely resilient. They come back in

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>every game, the results are close. They could very easily

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>have a very different record right now, and I bet

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>you probably could say the same things familiar. We're both

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>bobbing our heads, Like I remember we played Cleveland early

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 1>in the year, and I watched the Thursday night game

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>where Burrow through twenty seven fourth quarter passes or whatever

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that was to get them back into it. And I

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>think you all know that the record probably and I

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched enough really the Bengals jet, but I'm pretty

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.959
<v Speaker 1>certain I'm going to see the same thing, that their

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.200
<v Speaker 1>record could be different. You could say the same thing

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>about Washington. You'll watch him in the first half and

0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 1>you'll go that team didn't show up or they weren't

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>prepared or whatever it is, and then the second half

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll go, I can't believe they're practice. They look unstoppable

0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>at times, so they're very inconsistent. There's a lot going

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on here. If they're a young team, they got a

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>new coach. They do believe in this coach. As you

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>mentioned with Ron Rivera, there was a lot going on

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>there with his health. He was not as available he

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.920
<v Speaker 1>would have liked to have been, but he fought through it.

0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.399
<v Speaker 1>His chemotherapy rounds. The regiment's done for now, he said.

0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 1>The bye week kid at the right time for him personally,

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>so he's more engaged and more available to the team.

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>And this is the process for them, and they're selling

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it as a process. The tough part's been I think,

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we all think around here, especially with the

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>defensive talent that they have, that the record could be

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.280
<v Speaker 1>a little better than it is, and so they're looking

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of results to kind of validate the process.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>They're going through it as you all are probably going

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 1>through the same thing there. Don't forget to tune into

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