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Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. I just love that I can

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Speaker 1: hit any shot I kind of want.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about

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Speaker 2: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.

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Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Pink Proven Grounds Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I'm Shane Bacon. That's Marty Jerts and Marty. First things first,

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Speaker 3: your shirt is looking sharp. If you're not watching this

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Speaker 3: on YouTube, that is a new polo.

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Speaker 2: My man, dude, I'm loving this. This showed up at

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Speaker 2: my desk, one of our new pink shirts, and I

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Speaker 2: put it on this morning. My kiddos were like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I've never seen that shirt. I'm getting some good reactions.

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Speaker 1: Dad is cool. Man.

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Speaker 3: That's like the you know, I'm wearing the Carston stuff

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Speaker 3: and this is not like we're not trying to plug

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Speaker 3: think I get more compliments on these than anything else

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Speaker 3: I'll wear. People are I think they like the fabrics

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Speaker 3: so class. You never kind of you never dove into

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Speaker 3: that world. At least give it a look, Marty. Today

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about virtual fitting. Which is very

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Speaker 3: interesting because on this podcast plenty of times we've talked

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Speaker 3: mean we've all been on the computers and the zooms

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll give you a few reasons why, Shane.

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Speaker 2: even in the five years since then, Shane. A lot

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Speaker 3: it was going to go down, can you just kind

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Speaker 3: of give us the bullet points on on you mentioned

437
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Speaker 3: where to sign up, but just you know, basically it's

438
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Speaker 3: like I want to do this, What do I need

439
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Speaker 3: to expect?

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Speaker 2: Yep, just just book with us. You do not need

441
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Speaker 2: video your swing, so it's you know, some things are

442
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Speaker 2: like kind of mandatory, and then there's nice to have

443
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Speaker 2: bonus things. So you don't need to have a video

444
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Speaker 2: your swing. You don't need launch conditions, but they're nice

445
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Speaker 2: to have if you can get them right. You can

446
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Speaker 2: be on video. If you're not comfortable with it, we'll

447
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Speaker 2: just we'll just talk to you audio only, so you

448
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Speaker 2: don't need to be intimidated by being on the camera

449
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Speaker 2: or dressing up nice or doing anything there. But a

450
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Speaker 2: lot of people just nice casual conversation in their house, home, office,

451
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Speaker 2: lunch break at work or what have you. Right, if

452
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Speaker 2: you know the specs of your clubs, those are fantastic

453
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Speaker 2: to bring it, bring with you and we can help

454
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Speaker 2: you on any area of your bag. So if you

455
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Speaker 2: want to spend thirty minutes Shane our standard deployments thirty minutes.

456
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Speaker 2: If you want to spend thirty minutes talking only about

457
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Speaker 2: your putter and putting, we'll do that if you want to.

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Speaker 2: If you want to split the time and talk about

459
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Speaker 2: your whole bag and we'll gap your whole bag, we'll

460
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Speaker 2: do that if you want to. If you got driver

461
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Speaker 2: numbers and you only care about maximizing distance and getting

462
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Speaker 2: the right kind of combination of specs there for your driver,

463
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Speaker 2: we'll focus only on that. So kind of how what

464
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Speaker 2: topics we talk about in your bag is up to you.

465
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Speaker 2: How we split that time, and the more more information

466
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Speaker 2: you bring to us, it's a bonus, but none of

467
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Speaker 2: it is really required. Like you know, if you have

468
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Speaker 2: encore stats bonus, if you've got launch conditions bonus, video

469
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Speaker 2: your swing, you can you can send to us your

470
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Speaker 2: putting stroke. That's that stuff's all a bonus, but you

471
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Speaker 2: can have a great experience without any of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it seems as though, again people

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Speaker 3: listening to this podcast, you know, they want to get

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Speaker 3: better at golf, they probably also understand the importance of fitting.

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Speaker 3: It is still wild to me that there's people out

476
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Speaker 3: there that still don't get fit.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's just such a there's so many keys, and

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Speaker 3: to me it seemed like virtual fitting, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: kind of waned maybe five, eight, ten years ago to

481
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Speaker 3: the one on one experience.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And now it seems like just just make it a

484
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Speaker 3: little easier on. Everybody is going to bring more equal

485
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Speaker 3: to this process. And as you said a moment ago,

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Speaker 3: you can do this first and then go you know,

487
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Speaker 3: you know, get you know, dig into the dirt.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Yeah, a couple of different use cases for it,

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Speaker 2: you know, do it first us as your practice round,

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Speaker 2: then go out or maybe Shane, you're a you're a

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Speaker 2: you know I series iron player and you got the

492
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Speaker 2: I two tens and maybe you skipped a skipped a

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Speaker 2: generation of two or two and now you see our

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Speaker 2: two forties come out. Uh, maybe you've aged a little bit,

495
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Speaker 2: maybe lost a little club at speed, not hit it

496
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Speaker 2: quite as higher.

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Speaker 1: And you did pointed me or you pointed me to

498
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Speaker 1: lose shades.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what's going on. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how old are you? Show me your numbers? Man?

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Speaker 3: Forty one? Numbers might be going down. Numbers might be

502
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Speaker 3: going down. God, but that I gotta do more leg

503
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Speaker 3: Gotta do more legs. Man like day, gotta add a

504
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Speaker 3: leg day, I think, tell your coach you gotta you

505
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Speaker 3: gotta use the ground.

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Speaker 1: A little more. Get into the ground. Let's push off

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Speaker 1: saw hit style.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta spike your verticals a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Shane.

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Speaker 2: You gotta see you jumping out there. But maybe maybe

511
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Speaker 2: you're maybe you maybe you skipped a few generations of

512
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Speaker 2: I series irons and you see the two forties come out.

513
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Speaker 2: They look sweet. You already know your color code, You're

514
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Speaker 2: comfortable with your shaft, You're not necessarily looking for a

515
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Speaker 2: shaft change. And you're like, man, should I do these

516
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Speaker 2: power retro? What's the longest I should play? How do

517
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Speaker 2: I blend them in my bag? You are a perfect

518
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Speaker 2: candidate to do a virtual fit and they kind of

519
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Speaker 2: know your specs. You know a lot of people, you know,

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Speaker 2: I think this whole idea everyone's got to get fit

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time I kind of agree with.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes if you're looking for you already know your

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Speaker 2: color code, you're already comfortable with your shaft, You're not

524
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Speaker 2: yearning for something new. You can just kind of have

525
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Speaker 2: this kind of consultation on some of those key questions

526
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Speaker 2: of fitting, which is which is building your bag, longest iron,

527
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Speaker 2: launch conditions, power versus retro. One of the other fun

528
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Speaker 2: use cases for TE for virtual fishing is you get

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Speaker 2: total complete access to copilot and our fitter will guide

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Speaker 2: you through it. I know wealked a lot about all

531
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Speaker 2: of our fun cool tools and Pink Copilot, and you

532
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Speaker 2: know our consumers don't have direct access to to that directly.

533
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Speaker 2: You got to kind of go through one of our

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Speaker 2: fitters to guide you through it. Virtual fit is that unlock.

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Speaker 2: It's our direct pipeline to Pink co Pilot. And one

536
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Speaker 2: of the fun tools in there is our shaft app,

537
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Speaker 2: which we catalog all of our shafts. We give really

538
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Speaker 2: good shaft recommendations, and one of our most popular features

539
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Speaker 2: of shaft app chain is this shaft finder which matches

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Speaker 2: like maybe you're playing like an old Aldola Envy or

541
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Speaker 2: a pro Launch or something you used to like in

542
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Speaker 2: the past, and you've got it back out and you

543
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Speaker 2: hit it, you're like, oh, I like to feel of

544
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Speaker 2: this shaft. We can we can look up in that

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Speaker 2: database and match you to a contemporary version that's available.

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Speaker 2: So that's a great one for virtual fitting because so

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Speaker 2: many people out there have that favorite shaft that they

548
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Speaker 2: always like to feel of, and we're a big fan

549
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: of that. You know how it feels in transition, so

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Speaker 2: we can match you to an old, favorite legacy shaft

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Marty.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like you and I are going to tell

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Speaker 3: people they should get fit.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, call us crazy year, but I think

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Speaker 3: you should probably get fit.

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Speaker 1: I love that virtuals back.

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Speaker 3: I just again, I think it's an awesome maybe not back,

560
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Speaker 3: but popular again. It feels like, you know, with with

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Speaker 3: with everything you guys have been working on, and how

562
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Speaker 3: many kind of apps and and shortcuts I guess that

563
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: are available through paying these days, going virtual does make

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense. And I love what you said.

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Speaker 3: I mean if you're really committed to the game. I

566
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Speaker 3: tell people this all the time. If you love golf,

567
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Speaker 3: you're spending thousands of dollars a year on your game,

568
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: like whether it's a country club or you're playing weekly

569
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Speaker 3: at your you know, municipal club or public course.

570
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Speaker 1: You're hitting range balls, you're buying.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like you need to commit a few hundred bucks

572
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: to make sure the equipment you're playing is right for you,

573
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: because it's gonna matter so much more than any anything

574
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Speaker 3: else you do to yourself. Is like getting instruction and

575
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: getting lessons is important, but starting out kind of with

576
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: the foundation of what golf is and making sure the

577
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: stuff in your bag is appropriate for who you are.

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Speaker 1: It's just such an easy way to make the game

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Speaker 1: a little bit easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And what I love about this, Shane, is

581
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Speaker 2: we say go get fit, But the question is to

582
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Speaker 2: the golfer, where do I go? Like you know, and

583
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Speaker 2: so you go to your if you're a member at

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Speaker 2: a country club, maybe you got a good a good

585
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: fitter there, right, Uh, do you go to your retail store?

586
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Speaker 2: So this is the question is where do I go

587
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: to get fit? And we train our fitters out there,

588
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: so your call to action there for for golfers listening

589
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 2: is you know, book a virtual fit with us uh

590
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: in go to ping dot com and use our find

591
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Speaker 2: a Fitter tool. So you go type in your zip

592
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Speaker 2: code and you'll get a list of fitters. We have

593
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Speaker 2: different certifications, badging, We even catalog what equipment they have,

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Speaker 2: what launch moon or do they have are they Pink

595
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: proving grounds certified? Are they copilot users? And so that's

596
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: the best way to go to go figure out the

597
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: best spot to get fit. But definitely encourage somebody. You know,

598
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: fitting is a spectrum. It's not a binary thing. Did

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00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: I get fit yes or no? It's you know, what

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Speaker 2: tools did I have? What was the experience like? And

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Speaker 2: there is kind of a pyramid there, and certainly we're

602
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: excited to bring virtual fitting back and use that as

603
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: a great starting point foundation, easy access, not intimidating. You know,

604
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: we don't have any want to look into your swing.

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00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: If you're a female golfer just getting into the game,

606
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: if you're a parent and you want to talk about

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00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: Prodigy and building that bag, those are certainly great options

608
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Speaker 2: for the virtual fit experience as well.

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Speaker 3: Awesome stuff, Marty, this is awesome. I love diving into

610
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Speaker 3: these types of topics, and I think people out there

611
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Speaker 3: like it as well.

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Speaker 1: That is virtual fitting.

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Speaker 3: This is the Pink Proving Grounds podcast