WEBVTT - New Year's Day Bowl Recaps

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid Verbal. I'm that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be happy, you want to be happy

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<v Speaker 1>for Dake Edith State.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that woo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls. My name is

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<v Speaker 2>ty hilden Brandt, joining me as always over there in

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful New York City, my good friend and co host,

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<v Speaker 2>the one the only Dan Rubinstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Sir, how are you unlike our friends Tye in Athens, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>I have shown up ready, okay, and prepared for duty

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<v Speaker 1>and success? How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was an impressive performance before the committee. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope they like what they saw.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it really was Tie to me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you felt this too, as as a Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame fan, feeling people just beating down that that storyline

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<v Speaker 1>of Notre Dame not belonging at the very end of

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<v Speaker 1>what was it, the final Lord of the Rings where

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<v Speaker 1>the eagle soars in carrying our clan to the rescue,

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<v Speaker 1>in comes Georgia's complete sloppiness and inattention to any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of detail. To take some of that pressure off of

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<v Speaker 1>the faithful Irish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was definitely a lifeline. I didn't get my

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<v Speaker 2>full wish with Ohio State losing as well. Yeah, fair,

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll talk about that game in addition to the

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia game, in addition to a bunch of other games

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<v Speaker 2>that we haven't had a chance to recap. Hello on Tye,

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<v Speaker 2>He's Dan. We are the solid verbal We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be continuing all throughout the off season. We've got one

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<v Speaker 2>game left that we're going to preview tomorrow, so stay

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<v Speaker 2>tuned your podcast feed Thursday evening at some point where

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<v Speaker 2>we'll drop that official preview show, and then of course

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<v Speaker 2>we'll recap at some point early on Tuesday after the

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<v Speaker 2>game between Clemson and Alabama actually takes place. Today. Though

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<v Speaker 2>we've got recaps, we've got some college football news, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course dropped right after we hit the stop button

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<v Speaker 2>on our last show when we went through some other

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl action. We'll talk about that big news from Miami

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<v Speaker 2>as of Sunday here momentarily. But yeah, just a nice

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<v Speaker 2>casual dress Wednesday show here.

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<v Speaker 1>One more game, that's all we have.

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<v Speaker 2>We are game after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, officially passed multiple games on the same day that

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the college football season with the final gun

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<v Speaker 1>of Georgia Texas. Here we are.

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<v Speaker 2>We feel pretty good. Here we are, Dan, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>On Sunday we had p So it came out of

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<v Speaker 2>left field that Mark Richt was retiring, effective immediately as

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<v Speaker 2>head football coach of the my Miami Hurricanes. This set

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<v Speaker 2>off a bit of a firestorm because again it came

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<v Speaker 2>sort of out of nowhere. Granted, the season didn't go

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<v Speaker 2>as expected for the Miami Hurricanes, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if anyone quite expected that Rick was just going to

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<v Speaker 2>up and leave the job as expected. In light of

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<v Speaker 2>this sudden announcement, there was a lot of speculation right

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<v Speaker 2>away as to who the next coach might be. Bruce Feldman,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend Bruce was tweeting out about all sorts of names.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and behold. By evening, it ends up being Manny Diaz. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Manny Diaz was the defensive coordinator for the Miami Hurricanes,

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<v Speaker 2>a native son of the greater Miami area, but he

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<v Speaker 2>had just agreed to be head football coach at Temple.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami acts quickly. They bring Manny Diaz back from the

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<v Speaker 2>brink of the City of Brotherly Love.

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<v Speaker 1>Back from the brink, like he was about to be

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<v Speaker 1>shoved into a pool of magma.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little colder up there up here, I should say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as it stands, Many Diaz is going to be your

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<v Speaker 2>new head footbook coach at Miami. How do you grade

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<v Speaker 2>the hire?

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. It's interesting to me, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the fact that they moved swiftly, and Many Diaz,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure had a moment of here is this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>facing me, and not unlike what happened I suppose with

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<v Speaker 1>Willie Taggart in Florida State, except that he didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>spend a full year or month at a new gig,

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of weeks. And so if he were

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<v Speaker 1>going to make that move, you got to make it immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did he, you know, to his credit, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he ripped that band aid off and didn't let

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<v Speaker 1>it get too far down the road and didn't let

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<v Speaker 1>Miami start talking to other people if they indeed offered

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<v Speaker 1>him upon the actual conversation they had with him, the

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<v Speaker 1>timing was terrible. Obviously, it would have been nice for

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<v Speaker 1>Markreek to retire, I don't know, a month ago, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been super good. I had my slight reflexive

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<v Speaker 1>panic attack when Mario Christobaul's name started being thrown into

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<v Speaker 1>the mix, obviously as an alumnus and somebody who's recruited

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<v Speaker 1>super well and has all sorts of connections to South Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Not because I'm positive he is going to succeed and

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<v Speaker 1>am fully encouraged by what I've seen, but four coaches

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<v Speaker 1>in four years ain't for me. Time No, not my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite thing. So I in terms of many Diaz specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the younger side, he has energized, He's familiar,

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<v Speaker 1>he is considered to be very intelligent and connected. He's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coached all over the place now. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was NC State, Florida State as a GA, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Mississippi State and Texas most notably before coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>So he checks a lot of boxes, both culturally and

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<v Speaker 1>experience wise. I do have a kind of a question here,

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<v Speaker 1>what has been the big criticism over the years about

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<v Speaker 1>the USC hiring process.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the USC hiring process has tended to go

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<v Speaker 2>for almost the easy name. In what way they've gone

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<v Speaker 2>for the flashy hire.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they've gone for the flashy higher and they've gone.

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<v Speaker 2>For a USC guy the USC guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, somebody connected to the program that understands how things

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<v Speaker 1>work at USC. And we've made this connection before private school,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having this sort of storied history of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Miami and USC are like weird college football cousins. Miami's

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, Miami's doing the USC thing, and it's fine

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<v Speaker 1>if it works. But you know, with Mark Rick's connection

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<v Speaker 1>with previous coaches, connections with Brandy Shannon, with Coker, which

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<v Speaker 1>is understandable, they're going with Miami guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's so, he's a Miami guy because

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He was born there. He didn't go to Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a floor he did think guy technically, yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's native to the area. He knows the area. As

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of guys from the area of a

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<v Speaker 2>big school. They want the job, Manny Deez one of

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<v Speaker 2>the job. He's leaving the Temple job, which you just

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<v Speaker 2>barely started to take over. I think he struck a

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<v Speaker 2>really good note right off the bat. It wasn't unexpected

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<v Speaker 2>that he would dismiss basically the entire offensive staff as

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<v Speaker 2>well as the strength coach to kind of set down

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<v Speaker 2>a precedent for where he's looking to go. He's on

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<v Speaker 2>the record now saying you got to get better quarterback play,

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<v Speaker 2>which duh. We know that he's a name that is

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<v Speaker 2>not unfamiliar to us because Manny Diaz has been playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bill Connolly circles, I'll say for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's one of the few coaches who's gone on the

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<v Speaker 2>record as embracing the analytics movement in college football. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's kind of a darling of at least that wing

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<v Speaker 2>of the sport. But you know, here's what I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know anything about whether he can run a

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<v Speaker 2>program this big until sure, like a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Temple was the big job for Manny Diaz. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big upgrade to go from Temple to Miami. The

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<v Speaker 2>reverse al Golden I think, as you said, reverse reverse

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<v Speaker 2>al golden, these reverse al Golden. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Manny Diaz. I think he's shown a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of promise everywhere he's been. Didn't go great at Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll forget about that for now. We just don't

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<v Speaker 2>know a whole lot about how he's going to do

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<v Speaker 2>running a program on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think the being impressed with the hire

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<v Speaker 1>immediately that feeling is crazy overrated. Because Mark Rick goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Miami, everybody is crazy impressed. And yes, he takes

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<v Speaker 1>them to a big Bowl game last year. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of four or five years of Mark Richt and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something will come out, maybe there's a health element,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's just something that it was untenable about Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Rick's future. But winning that press conference, winning that tweet

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<v Speaker 1>is completely overrated. And if Manny Diaz and Miami are

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<v Speaker 1>going to succeed together, it's because he's a good fit

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<v Speaker 1>and because he understands infrastructure and recruiting and assistant hires

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<v Speaker 1>and makes good decisive moves at every turn. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So some other coaching news here that we

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<v Speaker 2>do need to get through quickly. Daniel Holgerson to Houston

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<v Speaker 2>is official as of today. Holgerson's a guy with a

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<v Speaker 2>familiarity Houston, loves Houston, apparently, and it came as a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a surprise to a lot of folks that

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<v Speaker 2>he would, in their view, downgrade from West Virginia go

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<v Speaker 2>into a group of five school. Now you can make

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<v Speaker 2>that argument one way or the other. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 2>do that here briefly. But he's taking over Houston, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is a huge coup for the Cougars. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the names that are reportedly connected to the now

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia opening your Boy, Neil Brown, Mike Norvell, Fickle,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Leach as a bit of a dark horse. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Lane Kiffen mentioned as well. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I like that one. Any thoughts here, Dan, Butch Jones

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<v Speaker 2>another one, rich Rod coming out of the woodwork.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, rich Rod's just signed with Ole Miss But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess nothing is Nothing's permanence with rich Rod. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when you have a head coaching offer, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially maybe small chance on the table. West Virginia is

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<v Speaker 1>a good job. West Virginia is a challenging job. Dana

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<v Speaker 1>Holgerson clearly recruited very well, and I don't think ever

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<v Speaker 1>had a top twenty five class at West Virginia. Being

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<v Speaker 1>that Morgantown is far far away from Texas and the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of recruiting hotbed of the Big twelve. Still a

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<v Speaker 1>very good job in just a very strange geographic situation

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<v Speaker 1>relative to the rest of the conference. As for Hulgo

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<v Speaker 1>going to Houston, the P five to G five move

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<v Speaker 1>is rare if never happening. Ever, Houston a crazy attractive

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<v Speaker 1>place with all the talent there, with a winnable conference

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<v Speaker 1>and a dicey situation with the trigger that what is it,

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<v Speaker 1>Tillman for Tita, they like the shadow ad, the shadow pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that the Megabooster getting rid of major

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<v Speaker 1>Apple White after a pretty poor Bowl performance against Army.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's interesting because we figure that Houston's offense should

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<v Speaker 1>be great, they should have a winnable schedule. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up and put this down here. Their future schedules these

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<v Speaker 1>next three years are schedules that would say, okay, if

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<v Speaker 1>they go undefeated, maybe they are sneaking into a playoff

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<v Speaker 1>conversation more so than UCF. Given the non conference elements.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to Oklahoma and they play Wazoo at NRG.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you call that?

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<v Speaker 2>The nerve ner Yes, officially the nerk. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>They do travel to UCF next year in conference, they

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<v Speaker 1>travel to Wazoo in twenty twenty. They host Boise and

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech in twenty twenty one and travel to Vandy,

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<v Speaker 1>so they will have Power five opponents. We are putting

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<v Speaker 1>the cart way way ahead of the horse here. But

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<v Speaker 1>given Dania Holgrison's success level and a Power five conference,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not crazy to think he should be winning double

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<v Speaker 1>digit plus games at Houston if that's if that's the

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<v Speaker 1>very very floor of expectations of him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well we'll see what happens with that West Virginia opening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, feels to me like it was time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it apparently had had reached a point in Morgantown

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<v Speaker 1>between Dana Holgris and the administration where it was just time.

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<v Speaker 1>As you said, that he wasn't necessarily getting the support

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted. They weren't necessarily happy with the results all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and sometimes it's just best to part ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think it's nice the way that it went

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<v Speaker 2>down him leaving for another job as opposed to an

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<v Speaker 2>ugly firing. I don't know. Correctice has sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>nicer sheene to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably the best for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll see where West Virginia goes. The only other

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<v Speaker 2>coaching news news that I want to discuss here, and

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<v Speaker 2>trust me, we do have another coaching item that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get through after we get through the Bowlrycaps, Yeah, featuring

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<v Speaker 2>what we want and only Brian Kelly, but Cliff Kingsbury. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a big to do when he

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<v Speaker 2>was let go by Texas Tech and there was this

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<v Speaker 2>whole parade of teams that may or may not be

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<v Speaker 2>interested in his services. He of course signed on with

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<v Speaker 2>USC to be offensive coordinator. The rumors are coming hot

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<v Speaker 2>and heavy that he may be interviewing with the Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>Cardinals for their head coaching gig as well as the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Football Jets for their head football coach gig Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>You wrote down in our note sheet, quote, but why

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<v Speaker 2>are you saying? But why from the Cliff Kingsbury perspective?

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<v Speaker 2>Or but why from the NFL perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>From the NFL perspective. Yeah, there's there's a I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Was it Ryan Reynolds and Harold and Kumar

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<v Speaker 1>who was the surgeon, and like.

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<v Speaker 2>But why?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what was going through my head. Cliff Kingsbury appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be a very bright offensive mind, but running an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous football franchise when there were elements that he certainly

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<v Speaker 1>struggled with at Texas Tech is kind of confounding. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like we're going after the USC offensive coordinator. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't coached at USC yet and at Texas Tech. He

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<v Speaker 1>really struggled to put together a defense for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, did the best he could with some quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>injuries this year, and certainly has the quarterbacks and the

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<v Speaker 1>tutelage behind him of Patrick Mahomes and Baker Mayfield to

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<v Speaker 1>a lesser extent. But we're missing some pieces here, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>there needs to be something between.

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<v Speaker 2>I admire the willingness to go out there and make

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<v Speaker 2>a splash higher if you're a team like the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 2>of the Jets, I admire that. And certainly Cliff Kingsbury

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<v Speaker 2>is a name that has been trotted about for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time. He's a creative mind. He can bring an

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<v Speaker 2>electric offense to really wherever he goes. I think all

0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.960
<v Speaker 2>that stuff is very, very notable. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm a Jets fan if I want Cliff Kingsbury

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<v Speaker 2>given his track record.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're weathering. It's not just calling place. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just diagramming an offense together and putting an offense together.

0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It's the full infrastructure and culture. Not that he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>one day do it or can't can prove us wrong

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<v Speaker 1>right now, But I mean what.

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<v Speaker 2>I would much rather have an NFL retread at this point, like,

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<v Speaker 2>give me Josh McDaniels or somebody who's got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of a head coaching resume in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>given the fact that you've got a brand new quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and Sam, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an NFL show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is an NFL appreciation show. Is the playoffs? Test?

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to talk about the ball games because

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<v Speaker 2>we had to talk a bunch of them that transpired

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<v Speaker 2>on New Year's Eve as well as New Year's Day?

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<v Speaker 2>Which game to you should we start with? Should it

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<v Speaker 2>be the Sugar Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just do cheese a bowl again? More to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk Sugar. Do you want to talk Rose?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about Bevo going after Uga in

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<v Speaker 2>the pregame of the Sugar Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>It was scary in that Bevo, who normally we just

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<v Speaker 1>see sort of sitting and pooping and puffing around that

0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:56.960
<v Speaker 1>he was on his feet and energized and saw the

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<v Speaker 1>dog and saw the dog, saw Uga and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>made a mad dash, tried to head Buttom. The horns

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<v Speaker 1>went down. It was it seemed out of character the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine being that photographer in the blue vest

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<v Speaker 2>who was getting what he thought was just a beach

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<v Speaker 2>ball of a photo op with and then turn around

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<v Speaker 2>a giant steer, Yeah, bearing down on you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he sounded like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're going to replay that footage on the Longhorn

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<v Speaker 2>Network for about a hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, what I enjoyed about the specific situation is, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you've seen the housing for Ralfi the

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I believe it's a she.

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<v Speaker 1>Traditionally it's a truck with the cage and confinement, and

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<v Speaker 1>they let her out and they stomp around the field

0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and they bring back to the back to the holding

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<v Speaker 1>pen kind of situation where it's where it's locked up

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<v Speaker 1>and secure. Bevo a large bowl was apparently confined with canvas.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like cardboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little bit of rope and some flimsy canvas. Okay,

0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.480
<v Speaker 1>that's that's one way to do it with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people and children and just very very susceptible bulldogs around.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was a decision, but it got it

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<v Speaker 1>was It was a bit of a metaphor ty can

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<v Speaker 1>we say that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, for sure, an omen a bit of an omen,

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<v Speaker 2>your final score here was Texas twenty eight Georgia twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>In reality, Texas had a much bigger lead. Georgia completed

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<v Speaker 2>two short touchdown passes, one of which was with about

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen seconds left in the game to make this one

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<v Speaker 2>look a little bit closer than it was, but really

0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Texas jumped out to a quick start. Sam Ellinger ran

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<v Speaker 2>for three touchdowns. He helped build an early twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>to seven lead in the early part of the fourth

0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.320
<v Speaker 2>quarter before Georgia tried to mount a charge, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really was too little, too late. After the game, sam

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<v Speaker 2>Ellinger went there Dan, He said, Texas is back.

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Texas back.

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<v Speaker 2>This question that never ever leaves the college football consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>was again put forth there.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're already shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Yeah, we know where sam Ellinger stands

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<v Speaker 2>on Texas being back. In your mind, does this victory

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<v Speaker 2>by Texas say more about where Texas is at, or

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<v Speaker 2>more about where Georgia is at, or more about either

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams as we move forward now into twenty nineteen, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Georgia we've seen when they've lost. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what Georgia looks like. Where they look flat. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like they've they've lost these games outside of the

0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Alabama games these past couple of years, but whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was LSU this year or Auburn last year, there's just

0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a flatness about Georgia that was apparent, especially when you

0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>compare them against the energy Texas had. Texas basically plays

0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.399
<v Speaker 1>on different levels, Like you know, you go to like

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.639
<v Speaker 1>a hot chicken place and you can get mild and

0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you can get a toomic and like Texas in these

0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.800
<v Speaker 1>big games, as we've seen from Tom Herman at both

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Houston and Texas, they just get up and it was

0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.680
<v Speaker 1>apparent from the opening drive where Texas had a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>When Texas was on defense early, they were just getting

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<v Speaker 1>after Georgia in a way that I don't think the

0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Bulldogs were expecting. I don't think Jake fromm was expecting.

0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the coaching staff was expecting. And Texas

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>came out and wanted this as as much of a

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>cliche as that is, they took every play so much

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 1>more seriously than Georgia did, so I think it confirms

0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.800
<v Speaker 1>what we already believed about the best of Texas. We

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<v Speaker 1>will learn more about Texas moving forward when they don't

0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>play this top tier opponent. I think we will learn

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<v Speaker 1>it when we see them play Kansas State or Baylor

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.520
<v Speaker 1>for Oklahoma State, one of those types of teams, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is the step that Texas is lacking right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing big here, Yeah, consistency across their entire schedule, not

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<v Speaker 2>just against the top of the top. This was a thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about it all year. Texas gets up for

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<v Speaker 2>these big games. I don't know if there was any

0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>doubt that they would be up for the Sugar Bowl here.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly Georgia had a little bit more to lose, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they cared as much, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about this too. I could also just

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 2>assume it. But yeah, that we're going to backload here

0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 2>on this show, I promise you. But I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it says a lot about Texas. I like

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:25.639
<v Speaker 2>what it means for them moving forward. I hope they

0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.680
<v Speaker 2>can use it as a rallying cry as they build

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<v Speaker 2>towards the twenty nineteen season. They got a lot coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>so they should be loaded for bear here, provided they

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.239
<v Speaker 2>could continue to harness this energy from the Sugar Bowl win.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice win for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as soon as I saw when was the when

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<v Speaker 1>did From throw an interception? I think it was early on,

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 1>early second half. Yeah, he scrambles out, he's pressured, and

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.280
<v Speaker 1>he just sort of throws on the run as he's

0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.880
<v Speaker 1>being hit and sort of throws it up and as

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.879
<v Speaker 1>it leaves his hand, you're like, this is either going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the greatest play of Bowl season or it's

0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be a nightmare disaster. And it was picked

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.800
<v Speaker 1>off by I think Chris Boyd. And it was that

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:04.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of play that where he seemed to be pressing

0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.439
<v Speaker 1>so much as a typically poised rhythm throw or he

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.800
<v Speaker 1>does check down some, but he is so strong at

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of exuding that calm. We saw that against Auburn

0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>last year where all of a sudden he's pressing. They're

0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.560
<v Speaker 1>down whatever, ten, fourteen, twenty, and he's just going all

0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>out and like, that's not a winning jake from And

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw that, I was like.

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<v Speaker 2>This, this is over. That's it. No, all right, So

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, big, great great game from Texas, Texas

0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and the Sugar Bowl. I think this epitomizes why I

0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.320
<v Speaker 2>try to put all my confidence points on the early teams,

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.960
<v Speaker 2>on the early games, I should say, because once you

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.919
<v Speaker 2>get to this stage of the game. These are unpredictable games.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna read through a bunch of rom here that

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being really unpredictable in the end and maybe

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 2>counter to what conventional wisdom was. So again, Texas would

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>certainly be one of those teams. They were an eleven

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.280
<v Speaker 2>point dog. They end up winning out right twenty eight

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:59.520
<v Speaker 2>twenty one. Let's stay on New Year's Day and go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Rose Bowl. Ohio State also puts up twenty

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 2>eight points in victory. They tried to blow twenty five

0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.959
<v Speaker 2>point ly. They really tried. Washington got back within five,

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 2>could have been three, didn't make the two point conversion.

0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought we were going to look at americal front

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.680
<v Speaker 2>door cover there with Ohio State returning a two point

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 2>conversion the other way to get some points for themselves,

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 2>but was not to be. Twenty eight to twenty three

0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.960
<v Speaker 2>year final score. They send Urban Meyer out on a

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.360
<v Speaker 2>very high note. Chris Peterson on the flip side, now

0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>drops to one in four in bowl games at Washington Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought a good game for Dwayne Haskins. I thought

0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>a good game for most of the game for that

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State defense, which had been a bit beleaguered this

0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:49.440
<v Speaker 2>season so far. Does this one to you say more

0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.120
<v Speaker 2>about Ohio State or more about Washington?

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<v Speaker 1>I think probably Washington at this point because we are

0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>we're used to this Ohio State. We're used in Ohio

0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.359
<v Speaker 1>State on this stage performing pretty well when they're not

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>being shut out by Clemson in a playoff game. But

0:23:06.160 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 1>we're used to this version of Dwayne Haskins. We are

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 1>not fully used to the offensive line playing as well

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>as they did on the ground. Mike Weber I think

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.400
<v Speaker 1>had a really nice game, might have been the offensive

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>MVP if not for Dwayne Haskins being a super competent

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for Ohio State. But Washington wise disappointed that they

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>came out sort of skittish and conservative and really weren't

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 1>trying to attack Dwayne Haskins like they did later on

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>in the game. Weren't trying to attack downfield. There was

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 1>not and this is something we're used to from Washington

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>coming out and looking very sharp early on and Chris

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Peterson and scripting plays and like, wow, Washington just has it,

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, game plan perfectly. That's the sort of signature

0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>is they're just a smart team and they were just

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 1>early on other than Miles Gaskin. There wasn't a lot

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to like about this Washington team on either side, whereas

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>with Ohio State, they came out going right. At Washington,

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.360
<v Speaker 1>they threw the ball well, Haskins did a nice job

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>getting a lot of different players involved. And so it

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>certainly was a little too little, too late for Washington

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>because by the time the fourth quarter rolled around, we

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>saw that Washington had it in them, you know, attacking

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>this Ohio State offense. I don't know, they have one

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 1>first down in the second half, something crazy like that. Yeah,

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it was bad, and they were harassing the Ohio State offense.

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>They were, I mean, they had a couple of pretty

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>bad drops, but they were they were generating open passing lanes,

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 1>and it was just where was this make the whole

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>plane out of the second half? I didn't I was

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>confused as to why we saw the Washington we did

0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in that first half for the first three quarters.

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, I thought, actually this was a good way

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to go out for Jake Browning, even though it was

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.520
<v Speaker 2>a loss. Jake Browning looked really good down the stretch.

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Perhaps that's because Ohio State was mailing it in a bin.

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't really care. Jake Browning is

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.320
<v Speaker 2>someone who I think if you ask Washington fans their

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>opinion of him, they'll say that in the end they

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 2>came away very disappointed or underwhelmed by Himly course, I'll

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>actually said it before the game started that he's been

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>underwhelmed by Jake Browning. He speaks for all of us.

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.600
<v Speaker 2>It has been the case for Browning. But he looked

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 2>good down the stretch. Washington certainly did not give up,

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>even though they were trying to come back from a

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty big deficit. It says a lot about their character

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 2>that they would fight the way they did on the

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State side. Speaking of the quarterback position, if you're

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Haskins, do you leave early?

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, I think I do.

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he I think he is in a

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 1>better place in terms of maturity and readiness for the

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL than Justin Herbert, who's coming back. I think he

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>has the measurables. Still will be raw entering the league,

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 1>but given this class and the coaching transition, and I

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>did see what's Mike You're sick? Is being rumored to

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 1>go from Oklahoma State the offense coordinator to Ohio State

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>to join Ryan Day's staff. Yeah, I would most certainly go,

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but I would totally understand if he didn't. And now

0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>there's what Justin Fields rumors about Ohio State and so

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of changes in Columbus. Back to what you said,

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I would be still disappointed. If I were a Washington fan,

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be happy with the fight or the competitive

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 1>nature they were in the playoffs two years ago. Yeah,

0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>to be shut out well from getting into the end

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>zone for three quarters against this year's version of the

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State defense, I'd be pretty bummed. What did you

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>think of the punt down? I think it was down eleven,

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:38.679
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight to seventeen. Yeah, three forty six. And this

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 1>won't be the first time we talk about strange special

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>teams decisions. Go Nitney Lions. What did you think about

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Washington punting there down eleven just under four minutes left,

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>basically saying we will have to score quickly and get

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>an on sidekick rather than trying to score now and

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>then score again quickly.

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, since we talk about the Citrus Bowl next, I'll

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 2>say that I questioned the punt in the Washington game

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>more than I did in the Penn State game.

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>The field goal.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, excuse me more than I did. The field goal,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 2>just because Kentucky was not moving the ball at all

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>right on Penn State, whereas with Ohio State there was

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>at least somebody of proof there that they could strike

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just felt like, okay, you're taking the foot

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>off the gas. I'm not a big believer in momentum,

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 1>but I have to imagine the Washington offense had more

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>confidence than they did earlier on in the game, and

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.880
<v Speaker 1>certainly more confidence than the Ohio State defense had in

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that moment. So it sort of felt like things were

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 1>screeching to a halt. I hate having to rely on

0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the on side kick unless you absolutely absolutely need to.

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.119
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to the Citrus Bowl. Kentucky twenty seven,

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Penn State twenty four. Benny Snell needed something like one

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred and seven hundred and four yards to become Kentucky's

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 2>all time leading rusher. He got one hundred and forty

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>four Kentucky. He finishes with a ten wins season, which

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 2>is incredible for the Wildcats. Congratulations to them, to their fans,

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 2>to Mike Stoops. This is a really big moment for

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>the football program. Also, Trace McSorley, I thought, going out

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>on a pretty high note as well, reportedly broke his foot.

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did he break his foot?

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I gotta believe the answer is no, but I don't

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 2>know for sure. Okay, he wasn't moving like he broke

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>his foot. He only missed one series, so I think

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 2>initially it was reported as a broken foot. It doesn't

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>mean that there isn't something broken in there. But Trace

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>McSorley came back in and damn near led Penn State

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 2>from a twenty point deficit to victory. He ends up

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 2>throwing for two forty six. He was a team's leading

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>rusher with seventy five yards. Trace did his damn best

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to try and win this game in his final one

0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>at Penn State, but it was not meant to be

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>because Kentucky. Kentucky played really, really well in that first half,

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>in the first three quarters really and gave themselves enough

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of a lead, held it together defensively to stave off

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a comeback from Penn State. Nice win for them.

0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, Trace McSorley when he loses, always plays

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>his heart out. That was just every time Penn State

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>loses with Trace McSorley. That's oh man, you hate to

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>see it. McSorley played his heartous. Yeah, this was a

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>sloppy game for Penn State. This was a winnable game

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>for Penn State. Ugly ugly special teams game for Penn State.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't like the field goal thing at the

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>end of the game.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>It was just, you know, it didn't bother me though,

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>because if you were watching the full, if you're watching

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the flow of that game, Penn State had so much

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>momentum dan that I think if you polled ten people,

0:29:42.440 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>even if they weren't fans of either team, who do

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 2>you think is going to win right now? Based in

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 2>the feel of this game, most people would have said

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Penn State. They just had so much work in their

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>direction that a field goal there didn't bother me the

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 2>way it bothered a lot of people. I just assumed

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 2>that they would get the ball back and score, which

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 2>of course they didn't. It didn't work out, but it

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 2>didn't really bug me.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was something, Yes, I think what Kentucky got

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a couple first downs and that extended and they had

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to go for a game winning play from like their

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>own fifteen. I want to say yep.

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And what a fitting way for Penn State season to

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>end with a receiver dropping a ball, not even a pass,

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>but a lateral for that to fall onto the ground

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>was a nice fitting way for Penn State's season to

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 2>end because they've had so much trouble with it this season.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a tough game for Penn State. They

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 1>score what one touchdown over the course of the first

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 1>three quarters. Just and this is an excellent Kentucky defense.

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to take anything away from Kentucky. This

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>was a very very Kentucky game of Benny Snell being

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>the absolute wrecking ball that he has always been will

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>always be and now a record setting wrecking ball. But

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>this game was Penn State's for the taking. This just

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>they had it.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It was very.

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen Penn State in the way as you mentioned

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>with the drop tooken lateral that it went all day.

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>What does this bowl result or which team I should say,

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 2>does this Bowl result speak more too? I don't know

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 2>if there's an answer here. It certainly confirms what we've

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 2>seen all year from Penn State in that they were

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>a mistake prone, that the offense was sluggish at times,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>that there would be a bit of a comeback attempt,

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think it confirms a lot of what we

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>knew about Kentucky that there were flashes of brilliance on offense.

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>They weren't going to get a whole lot out of

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 2>their quarterback situation, but Benny Snell is clearly a very

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 2>high level player at Kentucky and around the SEC, certainly

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL at some point soon and their defense,

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>their defense was a bit sucking wind down the stretch,

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>but ultimately was able to hold it together. I think

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>this result confirmed a lot about what we knew about

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>both teams coming in. Yeah.

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 1>No, Kentucky had a really good year and Penn State

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>had opportunities to have a better year, had opportunities to

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>have a better game, and came up short. It was

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a perfect encapsulation of both of these team seasons and

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>all it really told me about the future of Penn

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>State is they need to get out ahead, because when

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes down to late game coaching decisions.

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>James Franklin may not be your guy late game coaching.

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Decisions, he may not be your guy.

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>This is a recurring theme.

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Does Joe Morahead have like a nephew? Is there a

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Hank Morehead.

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, twenty seven to twenty four. Big win for Kentucky.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Ten win season. Let's go to the Fiesta Bowl. We

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 2>had LSU forty, UCF thirty two. I'm going to say

0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>something controversial. It's really not that controversial because I'm not

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>that controversial person, but it will be viewed as controversial

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 2>from some UCF fans who listen to this show that

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the final score of this game is going to make

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it look a lot closer than it was if we

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.800
<v Speaker 2>could be real for a second here, Okay, UCF gained

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>outgained by over three hundred yards, five point fifty five

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 2>to two fifty Dariel Mack to be fair, a backup,

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>a backup for UCF was eleven for thirty for ninety

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 2>seven yards, thirty two of which came on that hail

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Mary at the end of at the end of the

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>first half, right, And I think it's a huge indictment

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>on the defense that Joe Burrow would throw for almost

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>four hundred yards. Joe Burrow does not throw for four

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards against both teams.

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 1>No, that is not necessarily a recipe for now. Let's

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>see a winning games as their quarterback throwing for four

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred yards. But LSU after what they go down after

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the first quarter. There's that hit on the pick six.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>That was a hard hit on Joe Burrow.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>It was not tartle hit that was not targeting. It

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>was I don't think it was targeted. That was not targeting.

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>But he came out after that hit and was a

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>full on gamer. He was so good. He completed what

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it's seven of eight or an eight of nine whatever

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>right after that hit, which you know, is it mirrors

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 1>the disaster that was the UCF passing game. I think

0:33:57.520 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Mac had ten straight in completion one point. That was

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>his Rookie of the Year moment right there. Yeah, that

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was rough. And so yes, this game was closer than

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the score indicates because LSU eventually just started mashing the Knights.

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 1>They did, and that's what they should have done, and

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.000
<v Speaker 1>all the more impressive because LSU was down some major

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>major talent on defense. Grant Delpit I think was ejected,

0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Michael Divinity gets hurt, where Shad Lawrence gets hurt. Greedy

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Williams isn't playing in the game. So they're down a

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>lot on defense, and it ultimately does not matter because

0:34:32.600 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>LSU does a good job on both sides of the ball,

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>if not a great job at times, and took care

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>of business and ty it's a bummer that it's what

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it's the PlayStation festival.

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's a bummer.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>It's not the Tostitos one because buddy, this got chippy forty.

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>To thirty two year final here, LSU wins the same.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 2>More to you about LSU or UCF.

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh as the teams were constituted. I don't think you

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>can take too much away other than LSU is just

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>more talented pretty much everywhere, and good teams take care

0:35:04.600 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of business and now else you took care of business.

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think this says a lot about UCF. I

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 2>think it says more about UCF that they would give

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 2>up four hundred yards almost four hundred yards to Joe Burrow.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was one of those alube situations where the

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>UCF offense was doing the defense, just zero favors getting

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>off the field as quickly as they did without McKenzie Milton.

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Out Back Bowl, Iowa twenty seven, Mississippi State twenty two.

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 2>This is a better game than I expected. Also a

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 2>bit of a statistical anomaly here. Iowa wins despite having

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:44.839
<v Speaker 2>negative fifteen rushing yards, despite going one of eleven on

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>third downs. It was not a high flying Iowa offense

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>out there.

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>I like this this unspoken was it Northwestern versus Michigan

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>State who won with like negative four yards and two

0:35:55.800 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 1>yards rushing and then this big ten West cold war.

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>A degree of difficulty rushing wins is great.

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Nate Stanley, though three touchdown passes. Yes, back and forth contest. Here,

0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Iowa jumps out to a lead, Mississippi State comes back.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Iowa then seals the victory twenty seven to twenty two.

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Here a big one for the Hawkeyes, Dan.

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Huge, Yeah, they win another bowl game they win last year.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:24.520
<v Speaker 1>This is without Noah Fant. This was what the last

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>game of Nick Easily, who played well. I think that

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 1>was the receiver who caught a bunch. Yeah, Nick Easily

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>played really well for Iowa. The defense looks strong, weathered

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of streaks for Mississippi State and Bulldogs just

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>trouble on offense, trouble just their discipline is not there

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the nine or ten times.

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, they gave up way too much

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:52.279
<v Speaker 2>to Iowa. If you worship at the altar of Kirk

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Ferens the way most of us do. You know that

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>he preaches the value of not making mistakes in bowl games.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.720
<v Speaker 2>Its bowl games, the way he treats early season games.

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Thinks it's all about minimizing your mistakes. Yep, right, they

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 2>minimize their mistakes in this game, Mississippi State did not.

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>They had three turnovers. It really hurt them. Iowa was

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>able to capitalize here and ride that to victory.

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>No, it was a very Iowa season twenty seven to

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>twenty two.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.879
<v Speaker 2>Again your final here, let's if we could travel back

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>in time.

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Better do better?

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Who better do? Let's go quickly through some of the

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>games on New Year's Eve Day, and I want to

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>start with the Red Box Bowl. Dan, Okay, how's your

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 2>heart after this game seven to six in favor of

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>the Orgon Ducks.

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Heart's not great, But I attribute that more to the

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>garlic bread and chicken parm i ate during the second

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 1>half because I left and I didn't think I had plans,

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and I was going to say, well, I'll just try

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 1>not to find out what happens. I'm gonna go out

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to dinner and early dinner and come back and watch

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the second half. And I just look to see what happened,

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>because I couldn't imagine the second half was going to

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be dramatically different than the first half. Ty I have

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>a question, Yes, Dan, anything, you're very you remember like

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the web one point zher and you remember remember soundboards.

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean you probably have one right in front of you.

0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like a Homer Simpson.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Stuff E Baum's world. Sure.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I'm not going to accuse Fox of having a

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Brady Quinn and Joe Davis soundboard. But that was a

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:33.359
<v Speaker 1>that's a rough assignment. That is a rough like here,

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to do this, so you you

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>just say boo, and I'm going to I'm going to

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>be the soundboard of what this game entailed. That's not

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be enough. Stopped right away. A bit of

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.719
<v Speaker 1>a miscommunication. It seems nothing doing there.

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get the point.

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, it was. It was bad, but Oregon wins,

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>so there's that.

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Michigan State's offense was terrible pretty much all

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:09.480
<v Speaker 1>year long, and Oregon's offense was pretty disappointing against the

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>decent defenses, if not better defenses than decent that they faced.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>So there's not a Ton. To take away from that

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>other than now that Oregon's lone offensive weapon outside Dylan

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Mitchell has declared for the NFL drafts. The takeaway is, Hey,

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 1>if you want to catch footballs, go to Eugene, Oregon.

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're there for you, they are, They are there

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>in waiting. Oregon gets its cheese at Bowl moment here

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 2>in seven six. It's not gonna get much of the

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Red Box Bowl. What was scoring game of bull season

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>thus far. I suppose there's hope for Clemson in Alabama,

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 2>though not counting on.

0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That looks like he's short of the sticks Tye.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Sun Ball almost living up to that billing as well.

0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Fourteen to thirteen Stanford the victor over the pitt Panthers.

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.839
<v Speaker 2>They had just two hundred and eight total yards these

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 2>teams where it combined six for twenty seven on third

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>downs Dan so kind of exactly as we expected, not

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>just from both these teams, but in the Sun Bowl.

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this was another rough watch. The Pac twelve is

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 1>really specializing final game for JJ Arthega Whiteside, Sure Caden

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Smith declares for the drafts. Bryce Love sat this one out,

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>So not a lot of excitement in this game. I

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 1>expected more from kJ Costello, who had a very good

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>year and struggled mightily with a not that good pit defense.

0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>And also Stanford scored on maybe my favorite touchdown of

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the postseason, the fumble into the air touchdown reception. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>great cool back twelve needs wins where they can get them,

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and they get it.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>They did get it. Okay, let's go to Cincinnati thirty

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 2>five Virginia Tech thirty one in the Military Bowl. Seven

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 2>lead changes, twenty three penalties, nine hundred and five yards

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 2>of total offense. Cincinnati's backup quarterback Hayden Moore actually had

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 2>to come in in this one. He threw twenty six

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.399
<v Speaker 2>passes all year, had to come in after the starter

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>heard his arm ended up, throwing something like twenty five times.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Didn't have great numbers in this game, but does get

0:41:17.880 --> 0:41:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the job done for the Bearcats. Nice year, really nice

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 2>year for Luke Fickle here as they knock off Virginia Tech.

0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to say this one was a wet one too.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 2>This one was in the Roan.

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Desmon Ritter starting quarterback leaves the game. Nice enough

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>game offensively for Virginia Tech, which we can't say all

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that often, especially given what Cincinnati was able to do

0:41:38.600 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>on defense all season long. Good for the Bearcats. They

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.760
<v Speaker 1>run the ball well. Luke Fickle has done a terrific

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 1>job increasing the visibility of Cincinnati and the visibility of

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Luke Fickle. So I expect this this Bearcat program to

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.240
<v Speaker 1>even go up from here. They get to what eleven

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>wins ten and two with the Bowl win. Very impressive

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and I can't imagine Virginia Tech will be terribly down

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>for long. But I haven't seen their recruiting rankings. I

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know what they have in the pipeline, but it

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 1>certainly feels just like.

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 2>A gap year. Yeah. Okay, Liberty Ball. Oklahoma State thirty eight,

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.839
<v Speaker 2>Miszoo thirty three. A fun back and forth game, couple

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>lead changes. Oklahoma State was up by sixteen after three quarters,

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 2>but Miszoo they tried to make it interesting in the

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.799
<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter. They fell a little bit short. What corn

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Dog Cornelius four touchdown passes?

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I think very CornDog game. Yep, nice game for him.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 2>So Oklahoma State wins this one again. Thirty eight thirty three.

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Chuba Hubbard, one of the more fun running backs to

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>watch when he's on Miszoo, also runs the ball crazy

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 1>well against an Oklahoma State defense that struggled most of

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the season. But a fun game and good for Oklahoma

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>State for breaking through and actually playing pretty well on

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>the road.

0:42:55.239 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, Texas A and M fifty two NC State thirteen.

0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Only one member of the broadcasting duo had the wherewithal

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the Cojones really to predict a big, massive Texas A

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 2>and M victory. Cravy Travion Williams sets a Gator Bowl

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>record two hundred and thirty six yards rushing three touchdowns.

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>ANC State Dan could not get anything going. They finished

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>the game oh of thirteen on third downs, just had

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and seventy three total yards in this one.

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this NC State offense was a rough watch. And

0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it made it a little bit better that our pal

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:35.400
<v Speaker 1>when Adam A. Meme was doing this game, right, Yeah.

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it was c J. Riley who had like

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a crazy touchdown catch and he got very excited for that,

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, okay, great, we're going back and

0:43:42.760 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>forth with Adam. I mean excitement and it was just

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>one way, right, It just went Texas A and M's way,

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And to say that probably is misleading because it went

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Travon Williams way, I thought A and M did a

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>great job in all phases they got after Ryan Finley.

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>They stopped the run offensively, Kellen Mond was out there

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 1>running and broke loose a couple of times, and Travon

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Williams was just an unstoppable beast.

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Cool to see in light of this victory, and I

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>think a good season for Texas definitely.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it can't be qualified as anything but a

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:17.280
<v Speaker 1>success quantified.

0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in light of all that, as we enter twenty nineteen,

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be a ton of steam on Texas

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:26.600
<v Speaker 2>A and M. Oh Yeah, will there be more hype

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.680
<v Speaker 2>on A and M after their Bowl win? More more

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>hype on the Auburn Tigers after theirs A and M.

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I think A and M's the right answer, aving A

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 1>and M because of Yeah, I mean, there's two high

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 1>profile coaches, but losing your quarterback, whereas Kellen Mond is

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>just a sophomore now. And yes, I think especially with

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 1>where I know Auburn has Oregon, I believe in North

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>Texas and Jerry World. But A and M goes to

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Clemson in the return of the home home I believe

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>week two or three, so especially if they perform well there,

0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>like they were very close this year. Yeah, there's there's

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of when you say steam, a

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:11.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of smoke.

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>Got steam. Yeah, more steam on A and M or

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.200
<v Speaker 2>more steam on Florida.

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 1>Still I and M.

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, I think that.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I think your steamiest team, your red Shoe Diary team

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>of the year of the off season, is probably going

0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to be Texas Texas. Yeah. Beating Georgia in the way

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 1>that they did, in the venue that they did, returning

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>what they do, Yeah, Texas is going to get a

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of that.

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 2>See, I think I ranked them in the order of

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Texas one. I agree with you, Okay, Florida two because

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 2>they were young and they're really just a quarterback away.

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Dann Moan's gonna figure out.

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>I thought Philipe Franks was good against Michigan. I mean,

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm buying. I'm still not bumper

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 1>high level. He was good, he was full on good.

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>He is my Danny Etling Bowl Award winner.

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think i'd put A and M three. But

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>there's a good chance all three of those teams are

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 2>top ten entering twenty nineteen. Wow.

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, got a lot all right now, and Florida loses

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot. They've lost a lot of early declaration guys,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>especially on defense. But I also saw I think Jordan

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Scarlett declared as well today.

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, well we'll see a lot of reason to

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 2>be excited about all three of those teams A and

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 2>M in this case. Here a resounding fifty two to

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 2>thirteen win in the tax Slayer Gator Bowl. And finally

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 2>to round it all out in the Holiday Bowl, Northwestern

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>thirty one, Utah twenty. A spectacular collapse here by Utah.

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>They were leading fourteen to nothing hell after a quarter,

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty to three at half, and then Northwestern comes out

0:46:50.960 --> 0:46:55.879
<v Speaker 2>after half. They convert three Utah turnovers into three touchdowns

0:46:56.680 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 2>all told twenty eight points in total. In the third quarter.

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 2>As Northwestern comes from behind, they complete the comeback. They

0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 2>win by eleven, thirty one to twenty.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Dan leave it to a bowl game in San Diego

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to escalate quickly. That escalated quickly. Yeah, this was a

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.200
<v Speaker 1>mess to watch. This was with what Northwestern did to

0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Utah in the third quarter with the turnovers and runbacks.

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.920
<v Speaker 1>It was it was watching that was the what the

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Ralph wigam You can see the moment his hardest breaking

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in slow motion, that's what the third quarter felt like.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>You just saw Utah completely implode and it was in

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:40.600
<v Speaker 1>pristine HD rough watch. But good for Northwestern winning their

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>division going what they nine and five is their final record, yep.

0:47:46.400 --> 0:47:48.879
<v Speaker 1>Now they play fourteen games with a big ten championship games,

0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>So especially with what their September looked like, Northwestern had

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>a hell of inn October, November, and I guess late December.

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.400
<v Speaker 2>The Pac twelve conference on the whole finishes three and

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 2>four bold season. They had wins by Washington State, Stanford,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>and Oregon. They had losses by ASU Cal, Washington and

0:48:07.560 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 2>of course Utah. I think, I don't know. I don't

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 2>want to be too harsh on the Pac twelve, but

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>this was not the kind of bowl season they were

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:14.879
<v Speaker 2>hoping for.

0:48:15.719 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 1>No, And perception is reality, and it's tough to paint

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.600
<v Speaker 1>an entire conference with one brush, but I think it

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>sort of checked all the boxes where there was inconsistencies.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>There was ugly wins, and Washington came up short against

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a good team. And Washington State was probably the hope

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of the conference moving forward because of its win over

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a decent team, which is not always the case. So yeah,

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it was sort of par for the course. They didn't

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.640
<v Speaker 1>completely implode outside of Utah. That's good.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 2>The highlights for me and kel yeah and cal from

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a conference perspective, the highlights for me and low lights.

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll start with the American. I expected more out of

0:48:57.800 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 2>the American. Yeah, just like two and five this bowl season.

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Temple loss, of course, UCF loss, Houston. I had. The

0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Big Ten West actually quitted itself pretty well.

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not bad, I mean, save for Purdue.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Save for Purdue.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, I wonder what the point differential is. I

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>wonder if Purdue's loss completely submarines the Big Ten West

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 1>point differential in these games. It just may like the

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Big Ten West may have gone like five to one

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>with a negative point differential.

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 2>It's possible, Yeah, it is possible. I'd also throw the

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:33.080
<v Speaker 2>SEC in there. I know it's kind of an old

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 2>answer at this point, but just the teams that won

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC, I think spoke volumes about the conference

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.080
<v Speaker 2>still being really strong at the top. There might have

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 2>been some doubt about Auburn, but Auburn not obviously one

0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.719
<v Speaker 2>in very resounding fashion, Florida knocking off Michigan. I think

0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:53.440
<v Speaker 2>much more so the West the West, but Florida knocking

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 2>off Michigan was pretty big. In the East, Georgia, South

0:49:56.120 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Carolina not great, Kentucky definitely impressive, Florida one percent impressive.

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>The East sort of maybe broke even. But yeah, I

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>think you're right about the West.

0:50:05.360 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'll close out by saying that the Big Twelve

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 2>with their boost of Texas winning was nice. Oklahoma State,

0:50:12.680 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma State won, Baylor making a w was a nice

0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>touch for them as well. Clearly Oklahoma, which his things

0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 2>went differently, but I thought they acquitted themselves well when

0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 2>they actually played with tempo in the second half.

0:50:24.320 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it was. It was somewhat solid. You know.

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 1>I had a really really nice brain fart. That is

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>just me not trolling at all. I maybe yesterday I

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, who did USC play?

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Like I was?

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I was legitimately thinking I am totally blanking on USC's

0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>bowl game. And it was not me trying to say

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.520
<v Speaker 1>ha haaa us s's well. No, I legitimately thought USC

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>played somebody and I lost it. So that's that's where

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>my brain is at in early twenty nineteen.

0:50:51.239 --> 0:50:54.759
<v Speaker 2>What what other takeaways are there from bowl season so far,

0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 2>with one game again remaining to be played.

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there's anything that needs to change about

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the structure of the sport? Here's my loaded question, because

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of what we saw in the playoff and what we

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.439
<v Speaker 1>saw with the New Year six games. Is there any

0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 1>team that like now upon further reflection, like Michigan. Does

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Michigan need to scrap it all and start over on offense?

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Is there do we need to go to a do

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>we need to go to my preferred method of going

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>back to the old system and then voting after the

0:51:26.600 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>facts after the New Year's six games on who's going

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>to play in a national championship game. I feel like

0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 1>things are fine.

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's the need to change much of anything.

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I would change, and we discussed this,

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 2>is how we hate that New Year's Day isn't quite

0:51:44.880 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the college football holiday that it used to be. It

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.720
<v Speaker 2>still feels very weird to me that we're not playing

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 2>the playoff games on New Year's Day. I understand that

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 2>there are reasons beyond our control why that is. So

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.400
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean I have to like it, and I

0:51:59.440 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 2>still don't and I never will. That's the one thing

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 2>to me because New Year's Day was always the one

0:52:05.239 --> 0:52:08.319
<v Speaker 2>thing college football had. I wish they could restore that.

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to happen otherwise, though. I

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>think the system's fine now as we launch into this

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:17.200
<v Speaker 2>bigger discussion about the playoff and who should be in

0:52:17.280 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 2>who shouldn't be in. I just think in general, we

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.680
<v Speaker 2>find ourselves every year viewing the results of bowl season

0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 2>as like this Swiss army knife for college football arguments.

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 2>You know you can use them, however you want Notre

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Dame to lose this by twenty seven. It's either a

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:40.080
<v Speaker 2>disappointment or not a disappointment, or a huge failure of

0:52:40.120 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the system or Texas. Right, Texas is back because they

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.160
<v Speaker 2>wion on the Sugar Bowl, or maybe they're just lucky

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 2>because they caught an unmotivated Georgia Like you could do

0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 2>this until you're blue in the face. I don't think

0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:57.239
<v Speaker 2>any of it's too big a cause for concern or

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>too big a cause to try and change the state

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 2>of affairs.

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 1>It's okay Texas. By the way, they get lsu dk

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:08.920
<v Speaker 1>R next year, which will be fun. Yeah, I'm mostly

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:13.239
<v Speaker 1>with you. I think everything is fine. Well, The thing

0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm bummed about is I am trying to figure out

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 1>reasons to care about Alabama Clemson. Well, and here here's

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>my current list. What are they gonna do with Christian Wilkins.

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna do something fun, do something weird. Quinn Williams

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:36.160
<v Speaker 1>really fun to watch, and big picture, there aren't personalities,

0:53:36.200 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 1>there aren't storylines. There's there's not much that I'm finding

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:43.719
<v Speaker 1>myself caring about beyond hoping for a good dramatic back

0:53:43.760 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and forth. There's there's nothing peripheral at all for me.

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll talk more about this on our preview show,

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:55.320
<v Speaker 2>but that sentiment has been a bit reflected in ticket prices,

0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:59.320
<v Speaker 2>which have steadily dropped since they started hitting the open market.

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Those prices have gone down.

0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>It should never be, by the way, in Santa Clara.

0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, that was gonna be my second point. Maybe not

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the best site for a college football national championship game,

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:14.919
<v Speaker 2>certainly not the best stadium, but on the whole, maybe

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>not the best site for it. There are a lot

0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:21.439
<v Speaker 2>of things that I think factor in, not the least

0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:25.080
<v Speaker 2>of which is this general fatigue towards Clemson in Alabama

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 2>being so they're playing again again in the eyes of

0:54:29.320 --> 0:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of college football fans who at this point

0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>probably couldn't care one way or the other. You and

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 2>I were kind of in this business of focusing on

0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 2>the storylines that we think make games interesting, and I

0:54:40.800 --> 0:54:43.319
<v Speaker 2>can find a couple here. Trevor Lawrence playing in a

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:46.840
<v Speaker 2>game with this magnitude is interesting. Clemson in their defensive

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 2>line playing against a really good offensive line in Alabama,

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:54.320
<v Speaker 2>that's interesting to be Tua being in the National championship

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:58.200
<v Speaker 2>game again. All that stuff's interesting to me. I don't

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.279
<v Speaker 2>know if it's just me though, you know, like, if

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan who doesn't run a podcast, is that

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>something that's really going to reel me in and make

0:55:05.600 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 2>me want to watch this game? The ratings I think

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 2>are really going to tell a pretty big story here

0:55:09.520 --> 0:55:10.240
<v Speaker 2>after the fact.

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. I just and I don't worry too

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>much about rating stuff and what people do or don't

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>care about. I can only speak for myself, and it's

0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:26.000
<v Speaker 1>just it's year over years, it's just tougher. It's just

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:29.040
<v Speaker 1>like I just I want an awesome USC team to

0:55:29.080 --> 0:55:31.839
<v Speaker 1>show up, or I want, you know, a Michigan team,

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, want you want variety, tie I just want

0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody and I can't blame Alabama or Clemson for just

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 1>happening to be consistently excellent. It's just, you know, at

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.239
<v Speaker 1>a certain point, it's just like, Yep, we got it.

0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 1>These are the deepest, most talented teams. Cool.

0:55:48.200 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, If anything, the playoff confirmed what we thought the

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:51.919
<v Speaker 2>whole year through.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was a very h what's it called? In

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the NCAA tournament just sort of went chalk went chalk.

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It absolutely went chalk. Clemson out Obama. The been the

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>best two teams all year. Again, we'll preview that game.

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.879
<v Speaker 2>That show is going to drop later on Thursday night

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>if you're listening to us before Thursday. The other tidbit

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that I did want to mention here and I didn't

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>want to litter the beginning of the show with this,

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 2>but there are now rumors about Brian Kelly potentially being

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:18.600
<v Speaker 2>interested in the NFL.

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Dan what more does he have to prove? Ty go

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>undefeated and lose a huge game? Comfortably done it twice

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>now at Notre Dame. Yeah, do you think do you

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.399
<v Speaker 1>think it is conceivable?

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:40.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it conceivable? Sure, it's conceivable. Okay, you know, there's

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:44.959
<v Speaker 2>no doubt that there was mutual interest between Brian Kelly

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL a couple of years ago, to some

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.719
<v Speaker 2>degree that may still exist. I think if he wants

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.040
<v Speaker 2>to make the move, now is probably the time. We

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:56.799
<v Speaker 2>can joke about track record on the biggest stages in

0:56:56.880 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the college game. But he's fifty seven. If you want

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:03.360
<v Speaker 2>wants to make a move, it probably makes sense that

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>his stock's never going to get higher than it is

0:57:05.000 --> 0:57:07.919
<v Speaker 2>right now, so that now would be the time. This, though,

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 2>strikes me as Brian Kelly's agent feeding a story to

0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:14.719
<v Speaker 2>the media big time. His agent is Trace Armstrong, who,

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.640
<v Speaker 2>for people who aren't familiar with the college football agent business,

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Trace Armstrong sort of has a thing for playing this

0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:22.440
<v Speaker 2>media game. He's really good at it.

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Most agents too.

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the reporting here is a little too vague

0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 2>for my liking for it to be something that is.

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Truly from college people, or is it from NFL people?

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Now it's from radio people, Okay, Yeah, you know, like

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>most of the articles that are being written, or at

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 2>least the rumors that have surfaced, are that Kelly's a

0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 2>quote coach of interest, right, And most of the same

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 2>articles also say that the Bucks are willing to pay

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 2>something like ten million dollars a year for coach. They

0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>really want to make a splash, right, But now that

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:02.600
<v Speaker 2>this has gone through one media cycle, what's happening is

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 2>that both points are kind of melding together and instead

0:58:06.080 --> 0:58:09.640
<v Speaker 2>of them being mutually exclusive, now it's the Bucks would

0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.120
<v Speaker 2>be willing to pay Brian Kelly ten million dollars, which

0:58:12.160 --> 0:58:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I that can't be true and shouldn't be true for

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 2>him to get Pete Carroll money. Right, So, I think

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:22.520
<v Speaker 2>this is positioning itself as a leverage play by BKA

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 2>to try and get some more money because he's not

0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the highest paid coach in college football. He's getting he

0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 2>does pretty well. But you know this to me as

0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the hallmark of a agent created leverage play to get

0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 2>more money.

0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm saying radio guy out of Chicago. No, So

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not a big NFL newsbreaker saying this from the

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 1>NFL side.

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know it could happen. I wouldn't blame him

0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 2>if he wanted to cash in his chips then take

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 2>a stab at the pro game.

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 1>As of an hour ago, an NFL reporter for ESPN,

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Jenna Lane, says there are no plans for the Bucks

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to interview Brian Kelly. At this time, the only interviews

0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that she has personally confirmed are Eric b Enemy and

0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>George Edwards.

0:59:03.040 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Sokay.

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:07.680
<v Speaker 1>From the NFL's perspective, it doesn't seem like Brian Kelly

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:11.439
<v Speaker 1>is a bright, sparkling name for that job right now.

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 1>That could change.

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I will believe it when I see it. He's certainly

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 2>accomplished a lot at the college level. If he wants

0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:20.600
<v Speaker 2>to make that move, I think now be the time

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>for But I believe it when I see it.

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>On the flip side, though, the Tampa Bay Bucks also

0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:28.440
<v Speaker 1>do not have to join a college conference. This is true,

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>So there's a familiarity there. Ty, This is very true.

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, anything else that we need to discuss here

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:37.880
<v Speaker 2>on tonight's show.

0:59:37.880 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 1>No, do you have a good New Year's You do

0:59:39.080 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>anything fun?

0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:42.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, Dan, it's funny you should ask about New.

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Year's calog any toilets.

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 2>In New Year's Day. I found myself on a bit

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of a conquest, a journey, if you will, yeah, to

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 2>find stores that were open on New Year's Day to

0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:56.439
<v Speaker 2>buy the toilet plunger so I could do a little

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 2>amateur plumbing here at the New Homestead.

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you have for New Year's Eve dinner.

1:00:01.360 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 2>New Year's Eve dinner just ordered in. Had had some

1:00:04.920 --> 1:00:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Italian takeout, okay, how about you.

1:00:07.080 --> 1:00:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Well that that'll clog a toilet tie as I mentioned,

1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>went out and got Italian food chicken, palm, garlic bread.

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Had had a sort of doughnut looking thing with dual

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<v Speaker 1>sight alecha some caramel inside. Wonderful, and then watched half

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<v Speaker 1>a Netflix movie with Jody with and I before she

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep at nine thirty. And then I watched some

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<v Speaker 1>of the football that I miss and fell asleep by

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<v Speaker 1>ten forty five, so I didn't make it past the

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<v Speaker 1>ten thirty threshold, but not by much. And then New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Day had the in laws over made my dip,

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<v Speaker 1>posted the picture of the dip actually a gift of

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<v Speaker 1>the dip online if you see it. It was on Twitter feed,

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<v Speaker 1>and watched games. That's it eight dip watch games. Can't complain.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked back into the house with the plunger over

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<v Speaker 2>my shoulder. A hero returns, that's right, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>Frodo marching to Mordor Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>We really did bookend this show Lord of the Rings references.

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<v Speaker 1>We did, so that must mean it's a sign to end.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, yeah, as we said a couple times,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be doing our official National Championship preview

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, college Football Playoff National Championship preview show tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>That will drop as a separate show and in place

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<v Speaker 2>of our normal Sunday show. If we drop that on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>most people probably don't have a chance to listen. So

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be out tomorrow night, and our next show after

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<v Speaker 2>that will then be Tuesday, probably dropping late morning yep

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<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday, as we review the National Championship game again

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<v Speaker 2>between Clemson and Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>I should say ty because we mentioned it a few

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<v Speaker 1>times that we're not going to the Bay Area for

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<v Speaker 1>the National Championship Game and had mentioned that, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do like a watch party or something in New York. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>we did try to make it happen. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>scheduling conflicts that we really tried to move around, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's not in the cards this year. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can speak for both of us and say we're bumped.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll make it happened, but you're gonna have to find

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else and some other beautiful podcasters to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>this game with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. We will do our best though through hollows

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty nineteen to meet as many of you as

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<v Speaker 2>we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, we're very excited for twenty nineteen. Got some big, weird, fun,

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<v Speaker 1>cool plans. Even we say that a lot, but this

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<v Speaker 1>year we meet.

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<v Speaker 2>This is big for us. Yeah yeah, all right for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well on that note for that, go over there, Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Rubinstein for myself over here in East turn Pennsylvania, Ty

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<v Speaker 2>Hillton Brandt. We will be back, I guess a day

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<v Speaker 2>from now. Talk more to college football with all y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, they solved peace