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Speaker 2: Is that woo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back

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Speaker 2: to the Solid Verbal, Boys and girls. My name is

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Speaker 2: ty hilden Brandt, joining me as always over there in

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Speaker 2: the one the only Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 1: Sir, how are you unlike our friends Tye in Athens, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: I have shown up ready, okay, and prepared for duty

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Speaker 1: and success? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an impressive performance before the committee. I

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Speaker 1: You know what it really was Tie to me, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you felt this too, as as a Notre

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Speaker 1: the eagle soars in carrying our clan to the rescue,

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Speaker 1: in comes Georgia's complete sloppiness and inattention to any sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a lifeline. I didn't get my

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Speaker 2: full wish with Ohio State losing as well. Yeah, fair,

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Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that game in addition to the

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Speaker 2: that we haven't had a chance to recap. Hello on Tye,

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Speaker 2: He's Dan. We are the solid verbal We're going to

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Speaker 2: be continuing all throughout the off season. We've got one

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Speaker 2: game between Clemson and Alabama actually takes place. Today. Though

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Speaker 2: we've got recaps, we've got some college football news, which

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Speaker 2: Bowl action. We'll talk about that big news from Miami

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Speaker 1: One more game, that's all we have.

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Speaker 2: We are game after this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, officially passed multiple games on the same day that

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Speaker 2: We feel pretty good. Here we are, Dan, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: On Sunday we had p So it came out of

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Speaker 2: Well and behold. By evening, it ends up being Manny Diaz. Now,

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Speaker 2: Manny Diaz was the defensive coordinator for the Miami Hurricanes,

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Speaker 2: Miami acts quickly. They bring Manny Diaz back from the

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Speaker 1: Back from the brink, like he was about to be

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Speaker 1: Well, they've gone for the flashy higher and they've gone.

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Speaker 2: We don't know anything about whether he can run a

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Speaker 2: Temple was the big job for Manny Diaz. It's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the being impressed with the hire

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Speaker 1: maybe there's just something that it was untenable about Mark

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Speaker 1: Rick's future. But winning that press conference, winning that tweet

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Speaker 2: All right. So some other coaching news here that we

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Speaker 2: I think is a huge coup for the Cougars. Some

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Speaker 1: It's it's interesting because we figure that Houston's offense should

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Speaker 1: conversation more so than UCF. Given the non conference elements.

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Speaker 1: They go to Oklahoma and they play Wazoo at NRG.

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Speaker 1: They do travel to UCF next year in conference, they

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Speaker 1: travel to Wazoo in twenty twenty. They host Boise and

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Speaker 1: the cart way way ahead of the horse here. But

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Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think he should be winning double

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll see what happens with that West Virginia opening.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, feels to me like it was time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it apparently had had reached a point in Morgantown

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Speaker 2: You wrote down in our note sheet, quote, but why

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Speaker 2: I admire the willingness to go out there and make

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Speaker 2: that stuff is very, very notable. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: No, you're weathering. It's not just calling place. It's not

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Speaker 1: This is an NFL show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an NFL appreciation show. Is the playoffs? Test?

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Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve as well as New Year's Day?

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Speaker 2: Which game to you should we start with? Should it

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Speaker 1: Let's just do cheese a bowl again? More to say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about Bevo going after Uga in

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine being that photographer in the blue vest

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Speaker 1: Dan, what I enjoyed about the specific situation is, I

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Speaker 1: Traditionally it's a truck with the cage and confinement, and

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Speaker 2: your final score here was Texas twenty eight Georgia twenty one.

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Speaker 2: In reality, Texas had a much bigger lead. Georgia completed

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Speaker 2: Ellinger went there Dan, He said, Texas is back.

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Speaker 2: This question that never ever leaves the college football consciousness

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Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, we know where sam Ellinger stands

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Speaker 1: This is the Georgia we've seen when they've lost. This

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Speaker 2: Nothing big here, Yeah, consistency across their entire schedule, not

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Speaker 2: Nice win for you.

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Speaker 2: This, this is over. That's it. No, all right, So

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Speaker 2: there you go, big, great great game from Texas, Texas

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Speaker 2: to the Rose Bowl. Ohio State also puts up twenty

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Speaker 2: I thought we were going to look at americal front

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Speaker 2: drops to one in four in bowl games at Washington Dan.

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Speaker 2: I thought a good game for Dwayne Haskins. I thought

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Speaker 1: I think probably Washington at this point because we are

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Speaker 1: we're used to this Ohio State. We're used in Ohio

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Speaker 1: quarterback for Ohio State. But Washington wise disappointed that they

436
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Speaker 1: came out sort of skittish and conservative and really weren't

437
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Speaker 1: trying to attack Dwayne Haskins like they did later on

438
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Speaker 1: in the game. Weren't trying to attack downfield. There was

439
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Speaker 1: not and this is something we're used to from Washington

440
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: coming out and looking very sharp early on and Chris

441
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Speaker 1: Peterson and scripting plays and like, wow, Washington just has it,

442
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Speaker 1: you know, game plan perfectly. That's the sort of signature

443
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Speaker 1: is they're just a smart team and they were just

444
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Speaker 1: early on other than Miles Gaskin. There wasn't a lot

445
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Speaker 1: to like about this Washington team on either side, whereas

446
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Speaker 1: with Ohio State, they came out going right. At Washington,

447
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: they threw the ball well, Haskins did a nice job

448
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: getting a lot of different players involved. And so it

449
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Speaker 1: certainly was a little too little, too late for Washington

450
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Speaker 1: because by the time the fourth quarter rolled around, we

451
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Speaker 1: saw that Washington had it in them, you know, attacking

452
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Speaker 1: this Ohio State offense. I don't know, they have one

453
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Speaker 1: first down in the second half, something crazy like that. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 1: it was bad, and they were harassing the Ohio State offense.

455
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Speaker 1: They were, I mean, they had a couple of pretty

456
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Speaker 1: bad drops, but they were they were generating open passing lanes,

457
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Speaker 1: and it was just where was this make the whole

458
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Speaker 1: plane out of the second half? I didn't I was

459
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Speaker 1: confused as to why we saw the Washington we did

460
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Speaker 1: in that first half for the first three quarters.

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Speaker 2: Really yeah, I thought, actually this was a good way

462
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Speaker 2: to go out for Jake Browning, even though it was

463
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Speaker 2: a loss. Jake Browning looked really good down the stretch.

464
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Speaker 2: Perhaps that's because Ohio State was mailing it in a bin.

465
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really care. Jake Browning is

466
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Speaker 2: someone who I think if you ask Washington fans their

467
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Speaker 2: opinion of him, they'll say that in the end they

468
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: came away very disappointed or underwhelmed by Himly course, I'll

469
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Speaker 2: actually said it before the game started that he's been

470
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Speaker 2: underwhelmed by Jake Browning. He speaks for all of us.

471
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Speaker 2: It has been the case for Browning. But he looked

472
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Speaker 2: good down the stretch. Washington certainly did not give up,

473
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Speaker 2: even though they were trying to come back from a

474
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Speaker 2: pretty big deficit. It says a lot about their character

475
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Speaker 2: that they would fight the way they did on the

476
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Speaker 2: Ohio State side. Speaking of the quarterback position, if you're

477
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Speaker 2: Dwayne Haskins, do you leave early?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I think I do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he I think he is in a

481
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Speaker 1: better place in terms of maturity and readiness for the

482
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Speaker 1: NFL than Justin Herbert, who's coming back. I think he

483
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Speaker 1: has the measurables. Still will be raw entering the league,

484
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Speaker 1: but given this class and the coaching transition, and I

485
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: did see what's Mike You're sick? Is being rumored to

486
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Speaker 1: go from Oklahoma State the offense coordinator to Ohio State

487
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Speaker 1: to join Ryan Day's staff. Yeah, I would most certainly go,

488
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Speaker 1: but I would totally understand if he didn't. And now

489
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Speaker 1: there's what Justin Fields rumors about Ohio State and so

490
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: a lot of changes in Columbus. Back to what you said,

491
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Speaker 1: I would be still disappointed. If I were a Washington fan,

492
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be happy with the fight or the competitive

493
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Speaker 1: nature they were in the playoffs two years ago. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: to be shut out well from getting into the end

495
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Speaker 1: zone for three quarters against this year's version of the

496
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Speaker 1: Ohio State defense, I'd be pretty bummed. What did you

497
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Speaker 1: think of the punt down? I think it was down eleven,

498
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Speaker 1: twenty eight to seventeen. Yeah, three forty six. And this

499
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Speaker 1: won't be the first time we talk about strange special

500
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Speaker 1: teams decisions. Go Nitney Lions. What did you think about

501
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Speaker 1: Washington punting there down eleven just under four minutes left,

502
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Speaker 1: basically saying we will have to score quickly and get

503
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Speaker 1: an on sidekick rather than trying to score now and

504
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: then score again quickly.

505
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Speaker 2: Well, since we talk about the Citrus Bowl next, I'll

506
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Speaker 2: say that I questioned the punt in the Washington game

507
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: more than I did in the Penn State game.

508
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Speaker 1: The field goal.

509
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, excuse me more than I did. The field goal,

510
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: just because Kentucky was not moving the ball at all

511
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: right on Penn State, whereas with Ohio State there was

512
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Speaker 2: at least somebody of proof there that they could strike

513
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: pretty quickly.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just felt like, okay, you're taking the foot

515
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Speaker 1: off the gas. I'm not a big believer in momentum,

516
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: but I have to imagine the Washington offense had more

517
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Speaker 1: confidence than they did earlier on in the game, and

518
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Speaker 1: certainly more confidence than the Ohio State defense had in

519
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Speaker 1: that moment. So it sort of felt like things were

520
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: screeching to a halt. I hate having to rely on

521
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: the on side kick unless you absolutely absolutely need to.

522
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Citrus Bowl. Kentucky twenty seven,

523
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Speaker 2: Penn State twenty four. Benny Snell needed something like one

524
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Speaker 2: hundred and seven hundred and four yards to become Kentucky's

525
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: all time leading rusher. He got one hundred and forty

526
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Speaker 2: four Kentucky. He finishes with a ten wins season, which

527
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: is incredible for the Wildcats. Congratulations to them, to their fans,

528
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: to Mike Stoops. This is a really big moment for

529
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Speaker 2: the football program. Also, Trace McSorley, I thought, going out

530
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: on a pretty high note as well, reportedly broke his foot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did he break his foot?

532
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Speaker 2: I gotta believe the answer is no, but I don't

533
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Speaker 2: know for sure. Okay, he wasn't moving like he broke

534
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Speaker 2: his foot. He only missed one series, so I think

535
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Speaker 2: initially it was reported as a broken foot. It doesn't

536
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: mean that there isn't something broken in there. But Trace

537
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: McSorley came back in and damn near led Penn State

538
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: from a twenty point deficit to victory. He ends up

539
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: throwing for two forty six. He was a team's leading

540
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Speaker 2: rusher with seventy five yards. Trace did his damn best

541
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Speaker 2: to try and win this game in his final one

542
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: at Penn State, but it was not meant to be

543
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: because Kentucky. Kentucky played really, really well in that first half,

544
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: in the first three quarters really and gave themselves enough

545
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: of a lead, held it together defensively to stave off

546
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: a comeback from Penn State. Nice win for them.

547
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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Trace McSorley when he loses, always plays

548
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: his heart out. That was just every time Penn State

549
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: loses with Trace McSorley. That's oh man, you hate to

550
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: see it. McSorley played his heartous. Yeah, this was a

551
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: sloppy game for Penn State. This was a winnable game

552
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: for Penn State. Ugly ugly special teams game for Penn State.

553
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Speaker 1: And I didn't like the field goal thing at the

554
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Speaker 1: end of the game.

555
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Speaker 2: It was just, you know, it didn't bother me though,

556
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: because if you were watching the full, if you're watching

557
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 2: the flow of that game, Penn State had so much

558
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: momentum dan that I think if you polled ten people,

559
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: even if they weren't fans of either team, who do

560
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: you think is going to win right now? Based in

561
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: the feel of this game, most people would have said

562
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: Penn State. They just had so much work in their

563
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: direction that a field goal there didn't bother me the

564
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: way it bothered a lot of people. I just assumed

565
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Speaker 2: that they would get the ball back and score, which

566
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: of course they didn't. It didn't work out, but it

567
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: didn't really bug me.

568
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was something, Yes, I think what Kentucky got

569
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: a couple first downs and that extended and they had

570
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Speaker 1: to go for a game winning play from like their

571
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Speaker 1: own fifteen. I want to say yep.

572
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Speaker 2: And what a fitting way for Penn State season to

573
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: end with a receiver dropping a ball, not even a pass,

574
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: but a lateral for that to fall onto the ground

575
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: was a nice fitting way for Penn State's season to

576
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Speaker 2: end because they've had so much trouble with it this season.

577
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a tough game for Penn State. They

578
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Speaker 1: score what one touchdown over the course of the first

579
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Speaker 1: three quarters. Just and this is an excellent Kentucky defense.

580
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take anything away from Kentucky. This

581
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: was a very very Kentucky game of Benny Snell being

582
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: the absolute wrecking ball that he has always been will

583
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: always be and now a record setting wrecking ball. But

584
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: this game was Penn State's for the taking. This just

585
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: they had it.

586
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: It was very.

587
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Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen Penn State in the way as you mentioned

588
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: with the drop tooken lateral that it went all day.

589
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Speaker 2: What does this bowl result or which team I should say,

590
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: does this Bowl result speak more too? I don't know

591
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: if there's an answer here. It certainly confirms what we've

592
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: seen all year from Penn State in that they were

593
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: a mistake prone, that the offense was sluggish at times,

594
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: that there would be a bit of a comeback attempt,

595
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: and I think it confirms a lot of what we

596
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: knew about Kentucky that there were flashes of brilliance on offense.

597
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: They weren't going to get a whole lot out of

598
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Speaker 2: their quarterback situation, but Benny Snell is clearly a very

599
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: high level player at Kentucky and around the SEC, certainly

600
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Speaker 2: in the NFL at some point soon and their defense,

601
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: their defense was a bit sucking wind down the stretch,

602
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: but ultimately was able to hold it together. I think

603
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: this result confirmed a lot about what we knew about

604
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: both teams coming in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, Kentucky had a really good year and Penn State

606
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: had opportunities to have a better year, had opportunities to

607
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: have a better game, and came up short. It was

608
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: a perfect encapsulation of both of these team seasons and

609
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: all it really told me about the future of Penn

610
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: State is they need to get out ahead, because when

611
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: it comes down to late game coaching decisions.

612
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: James Franklin may not be your guy late game coaching.

613
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Decisions, he may not be your guy.

614
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: This is a recurring theme.

615
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: Does Joe Morahead have like a nephew? Is there a

616
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Hank Morehead.

617
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: All right, twenty seven to twenty four. Big win for Kentucky.

618
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Speaker 2: Ten win season. Let's go to the Fiesta Bowl. We

619
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Speaker 2: had LSU forty, UCF thirty two. I'm going to say

620
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: something controversial. It's really not that controversial because I'm not

621
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: that controversial person, but it will be viewed as controversial

622
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Speaker 2: from some UCF fans who listen to this show that

623
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Speaker 2: the final score of this game is going to make

624
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: it look a lot closer than it was if we

625
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: could be real for a second here, Okay, UCF gained

626
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Speaker 2: outgained by over three hundred yards, five point fifty five

627
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: to two fifty Dariel Mack to be fair, a backup,

628
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: a backup for UCF was eleven for thirty for ninety

629
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Speaker 2: seven yards, thirty two of which came on that hail

630
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: Mary at the end of at the end of the

631
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: first half, right, And I think it's a huge indictment

632
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: on the defense that Joe Burrow would throw for almost

633
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Speaker 2: four hundred yards. Joe Burrow does not throw for four

634
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Speaker 2: hundred yards against both teams.

635
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Speaker 1: No, that is not necessarily a recipe for now. Let's

636
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: see a winning games as their quarterback throwing for four

637
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: hundred yards. But LSU after what they go down after

638
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: the first quarter. There's that hit on the pick six.

639
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: That was a hard hit on Joe Burrow.

640
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: It was not tartle hit that was not targeting. It

641
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: was I don't think it was targeted. That was not targeting.

642
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: But he came out after that hit and was a

643
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Speaker 1: full on gamer. He was so good. He completed what

644
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: it's seven of eight or an eight of nine whatever

645
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: right after that hit, which you know, is it mirrors

646
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Speaker 1: the disaster that was the UCF passing game. I think

647
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Mac had ten straight in completion one point. That was

648
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: his Rookie of the Year moment right there. Yeah, that

649
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: was rough. And so yes, this game was closer than

650
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: the score indicates because LSU eventually just started mashing the Knights.

651
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: They did, and that's what they should have done, and

652
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: all the more impressive because LSU was down some major

653
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: major talent on defense. Grant Delpit I think was ejected,

654
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Michael Divinity gets hurt, where Shad Lawrence gets hurt. Greedy

655
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: Williams isn't playing in the game. So they're down a

656
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: lot on defense, and it ultimately does not matter because

657
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: LSU does a good job on both sides of the ball,

658
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: if not a great job at times, and took care

659
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: of business and ty it's a bummer that it's what

660
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: it's the PlayStation festival.

661
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a bummer.

662
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: It's not the Tostitos one because buddy, this got chippy forty.

663
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: To thirty two year final here, LSU wins the same.

664
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: More to you about LSU or UCF.

665
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh as the teams were constituted. I don't think you

666
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: can take too much away other than LSU is just

667
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: more talented pretty much everywhere, and good teams take care

668
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: of business and now else you took care of business.

669
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: So I think this says a lot about UCF. I

670
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: think it says more about UCF that they would give

671
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: up four hundred yards almost four hundred yards to Joe Burrow.

672
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those alube situations where the

673
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: UCF offense was doing the defense, just zero favors getting

674
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: off the field as quickly as they did without McKenzie Milton.

675
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: Out Back Bowl, Iowa twenty seven, Mississippi State twenty two.

676
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: This is a better game than I expected. Also a

677
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: bit of a statistical anomaly here. Iowa wins despite having

678
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: negative fifteen rushing yards, despite going one of eleven on

679
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: third downs. It was not a high flying Iowa offense

680
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: out there.

681
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: I like this this unspoken was it Northwestern versus Michigan

682
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: State who won with like negative four yards and two

683
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: yards rushing and then this big ten West cold war.

684
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: A degree of difficulty rushing wins is great.

685
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: Nate Stanley, though three touchdown passes. Yes, back and forth contest. Here,

686
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: Iowa jumps out to a lead, Mississippi State comes back.

687
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Iowa then seals the victory twenty seven to twenty two.

688
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: Here a big one for the Hawkeyes, Dan.

689
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: Huge, Yeah, they win another bowl game they win last year.

690
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: This is without Noah Fant. This was what the last

691
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: game of Nick Easily, who played well. I think that

692
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: was the receiver who caught a bunch. Yeah, Nick Easily

693
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: played really well for Iowa. The defense looks strong, weathered

694
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: a couple of streaks for Mississippi State and Bulldogs just

695
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: trouble on offense, trouble just their discipline is not there

696
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: the nine or ten times.

697
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, they gave up way too much

698
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 2: to Iowa. If you worship at the altar of Kirk

699
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Ferens the way most of us do. You know that

700
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: he preaches the value of not making mistakes in bowl games.

701
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 2: Its bowl games, the way he treats early season games.

702
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: Thinks it's all about minimizing your mistakes. Yep, right, they

703
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: minimize their mistakes in this game, Mississippi State did not.

704
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: They had three turnovers. It really hurt them. Iowa was

705
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: able to capitalize here and ride that to victory.

706
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: No, it was a very Iowa season twenty seven to

707
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: twenty two.

708
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 2: Again your final here, let's if we could travel back

709
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: in time.

710
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Better do better?

711
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: Who better do? Let's go quickly through some of the

712
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: games on New Year's Eve Day, and I want to

713
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: start with the Red Box Bowl. Dan, Okay, how's your

714
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: heart after this game seven to six in favor of

715
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: the Orgon Ducks.

716
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: Heart's not great, But I attribute that more to the

717
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: garlic bread and chicken parm i ate during the second

718
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: half because I left and I didn't think I had plans,

719
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: and I was going to say, well, I'll just try

720
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: not to find out what happens. I'm gonna go out

721
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: to dinner and early dinner and come back and watch

722
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: the second half. And I just look to see what happened,

723
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: because I couldn't imagine the second half was going to

724
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: be dramatically different than the first half. Ty I have

725
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: a question, Yes, Dan, anything, you're very you remember like

726
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the web one point zher and you remember remember soundboards.

727
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean you probably have one right in front of you.

728
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: You'd be like a Homer Simpson.

729
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: Stuff E Baum's world. Sure.

730
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm not going to accuse Fox of having a

731
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn and Joe Davis soundboard. But that was a

732
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: that's a rough assignment. That is a rough like here,

733
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do this, so you you

734
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: just say boo, and I'm going to I'm going to

735
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: be the soundboard of what this game entailed. That's not

736
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: going to be enough. Stopped right away. A bit of

737
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: a miscommunication. It seems nothing doing there.

738
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: Okay, I get the point.

739
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was bad, but Oregon wins,

740
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: so there's that.

741
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: It was.

742
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Michigan State's offense was terrible pretty much all

743
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: year long, and Oregon's offense was pretty disappointing against the

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: decent defenses, if not better defenses than decent that they faced.

745
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: So there's not a Ton. To take away from that

746
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: other than now that Oregon's lone offensive weapon outside Dylan

747
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: Mitchell has declared for the NFL drafts. The takeaway is, Hey,

748
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: if you want to catch footballs, go to Eugene, Oregon.

749
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there for you, they are, They are there

750
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: in waiting. Oregon gets its cheese at Bowl moment here

751
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: in seven six. It's not gonna get much of the

752
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: Red Box Bowl. What was scoring game of bull season

753
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: thus far. I suppose there's hope for Clemson in Alabama,

754
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: though not counting on.

755
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: That looks like he's short of the sticks Tye.

756
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: Sun Ball almost living up to that billing as well.

757
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Fourteen to thirteen Stanford the victor over the pitt Panthers.

758
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: They had just two hundred and eight total yards these

759
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: teams where it combined six for twenty seven on third

760
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: downs Dan so kind of exactly as we expected, not

761
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: just from both these teams, but in the Sun Bowl.

762
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: Yes, this was another rough watch. The Pac twelve is

763
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: really specializing final game for JJ Arthega Whiteside, Sure Caden

764
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: Smith declares for the drafts. Bryce Love sat this one out,

765
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: So not a lot of excitement in this game. I

766
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: expected more from kJ Costello, who had a very good

767
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: year and struggled mightily with a not that good pit defense.

768
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: And also Stanford scored on maybe my favorite touchdown of

769
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: the postseason, the fumble into the air touchdown reception. Yeah, yeah,

770
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: great cool back twelve needs wins where they can get them,

771
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: and they get it.

772
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: They did get it. Okay, let's go to Cincinnati thirty

773
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: five Virginia Tech thirty one in the Military Bowl. Seven

774
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: lead changes, twenty three penalties, nine hundred and five yards

775
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: of total offense. Cincinnati's backup quarterback Hayden Moore actually had

776
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: to come in in this one. He threw twenty six

777
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 2: passes all year, had to come in after the starter

778
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: heard his arm ended up, throwing something like twenty five times.

779
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: Didn't have great numbers in this game, but does get

780
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: the job done for the Bearcats. Nice year, really nice

781
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: year for Luke Fickle here as they knock off Virginia Tech.

782
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: I want to say this one was a wet one too.

783
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: This one was in the Roan.

784
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Desmon Ritter starting quarterback leaves the game. Nice enough

785
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: game offensively for Virginia Tech, which we can't say all

786
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: that often, especially given what Cincinnati was able to do

787
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: on defense all season long. Good for the Bearcats. They

788
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: run the ball well. Luke Fickle has done a terrific

789
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: job increasing the visibility of Cincinnati and the visibility of

790
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle. So I expect this this Bearcat program to

791
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: even go up from here. They get to what eleven

792
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: wins ten and two with the Bowl win. Very impressive

793
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: and I can't imagine Virginia Tech will be terribly down

794
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: for long. But I haven't seen their recruiting rankings. I

795
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: don't know what they have in the pipeline, but it

796
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: certainly feels just like.

797
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: A gap year. Yeah. Okay, Liberty Ball. Oklahoma State thirty eight,

798
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: Miszoo thirty three. A fun back and forth game, couple

799
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: lead changes. Oklahoma State was up by sixteen after three quarters,

800
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: but Miszoo they tried to make it interesting in the

801
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. They fell a little bit short. What corn

802
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: Dog Cornelius four touchdown passes?

803
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: I think very CornDog game. Yep, nice game for him.

804
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: So Oklahoma State wins this one again. Thirty eight thirty three.

805
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard, one of the more fun running backs to

806
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: watch when he's on Miszoo, also runs the ball crazy

807
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: well against an Oklahoma State defense that struggled most of

808
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: the season. But a fun game and good for Oklahoma

809
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: State for breaking through and actually playing pretty well on

810
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: the road.

811
00:42:55,239 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: All right, Texas A and M fifty two NC State thirteen.

812
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: Only one member of the broadcasting duo had the wherewithal

813
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 2: the Cojones really to predict a big, massive Texas A

814
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: and M victory. Cravy Travion Williams sets a Gator Bowl

815
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: record two hundred and thirty six yards rushing three touchdowns.

816
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: ANC State Dan could not get anything going. They finished

817
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 2: the game oh of thirteen on third downs, just had

818
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy three total yards in this one.

819
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, this NC State offense was a rough watch. And

820
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: it made it a little bit better that our pal

821
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: when Adam A. Meme was doing this game, right, Yeah.

822
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 1: I think it was c J. Riley who had like

823
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: a crazy touchdown catch and he got very excited for that,

824
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, great, we're going back and

825
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: forth with Adam. I mean excitement and it was just

826
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: one way, right, It just went Texas A and M's way,

827
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: And to say that probably is misleading because it went

828
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: Travon Williams way, I thought A and M did a

829
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: great job in all phases they got after Ryan Finley.

830
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: They stopped the run offensively, Kellen Mond was out there

831
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: running and broke loose a couple of times, and Travon

832
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: Williams was just an unstoppable beast.

833
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: Cool to see in light of this victory, and I

834
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: think a good season for Texas definitely.

835
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: I think it can't be qualified as anything but a

836
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: success quantified.

837
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, in light of all that, as we enter twenty nineteen,

838
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: there's going to be a ton of steam on Texas

839
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: A and M. Oh Yeah, will there be more hype

840
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: on A and M after their Bowl win? More more

841
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: hype on the Auburn Tigers after theirs A and M.

842
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: I think A and M's the right answer, aving A

843
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: and M because of Yeah, I mean, there's two high

844
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: profile coaches, but losing your quarterback, whereas Kellen Mond is

845
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: just a sophomore now. And yes, I think especially with

846
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: where I know Auburn has Oregon, I believe in North

847
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: Texas and Jerry World. But A and M goes to

848
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: Clemson in the return of the home home I believe

849
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: week two or three, so especially if they perform well there,

850
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: like they were very close this year. Yeah, there's there's

851
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of when you say steam, a

852
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: lot of smoke.

853
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: Got steam. Yeah, more steam on A and M or

854
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: more steam on Florida.

855
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Still I and M.

856
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I think that.

857
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: I think your steamiest team, your red Shoe Diary team

858
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: of the year of the off season, is probably going

859
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: to be Texas Texas. Yeah. Beating Georgia in the way

860
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: that they did, in the venue that they did, returning

861
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: what they do, Yeah, Texas is going to get a

862
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: lot of that.

863
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: See, I think I ranked them in the order of

864
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Texas one. I agree with you, Okay, Florida two because

865
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: they were young and they're really just a quarterback away.

866
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: Dann Moan's gonna figure out.

867
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: I thought Philipe Franks was good against Michigan. I mean,

868
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm buying. I'm still not bumper

869
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: high level. He was good, he was full on good.

870
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: He is my Danny Etling Bowl Award winner.

871
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: And I think i'd put A and M three. But

872
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: there's a good chance all three of those teams are

873
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: top ten entering twenty nineteen. Wow.

874
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, got a lot all right now, and Florida loses

875
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: a lot. They've lost a lot of early declaration guys,

876
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: especially on defense. But I also saw I think Jordan

877
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: Scarlett declared as well today.

878
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, well we'll see a lot of reason to

879
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: be excited about all three of those teams A and

880
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: M in this case. Here a resounding fifty two to

881
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: thirteen win in the tax Slayer Gator Bowl. And finally

882
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: to round it all out in the Holiday Bowl, Northwestern

883
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 2: thirty one, Utah twenty. A spectacular collapse here by Utah.

884
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: They were leading fourteen to nothing hell after a quarter,

885
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: twenty to three at half, and then Northwestern comes out

886
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: after half. They convert three Utah turnovers into three touchdowns

887
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: all told twenty eight points in total. In the third quarter.

888
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: As Northwestern comes from behind, they complete the comeback. They

889
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: win by eleven, thirty one to twenty.

890
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: Dan leave it to a bowl game in San Diego

891
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to escalate quickly. That escalated quickly. Yeah, this was a

892
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: mess to watch. This was with what Northwestern did to

893
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: Utah in the third quarter with the turnovers and runbacks.

894
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: It was it was watching that was the what the

895
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: Ralph wigam You can see the moment his hardest breaking

896
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: in slow motion, that's what the third quarter felt like.

897
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: You just saw Utah completely implode and it was in

898
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: pristine HD rough watch. But good for Northwestern winning their

899
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: division going what they nine and five is their final record, yep.

900
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: Now they play fourteen games with a big ten championship games,

901
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: So especially with what their September looked like, Northwestern had

902
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: a hell of inn October, November, and I guess late December.

903
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 2: The Pac twelve conference on the whole finishes three and

904
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 2: four bold season. They had wins by Washington State, Stanford,

905
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 2: and Oregon. They had losses by ASU Cal, Washington and

906
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 2: of course Utah. I think, I don't know. I don't

907
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: want to be too harsh on the Pac twelve, but

908
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: this was not the kind of bowl season they were

909
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: hoping for.

910
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: No, And perception is reality, and it's tough to paint

911
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: an entire conference with one brush, but I think it

912
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: sort of checked all the boxes where there was inconsistencies.

913
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: There was ugly wins, and Washington came up short against

914
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: a good team. And Washington State was probably the hope

915
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: of the conference moving forward because of its win over

916
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: a decent team, which is not always the case. So yeah,

917
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: it was sort of par for the course. They didn't

918
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: completely implode outside of Utah. That's good.

919
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: The highlights for me and kel yeah and cal from

920
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: a conference perspective, the highlights for me and low lights.

921
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: I'll start with the American. I expected more out of

922
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: the American. Yeah, just like two and five this bowl season.

923
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: Temple loss, of course, UCF loss, Houston. I had. The

924
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: Big Ten West actually quitted itself pretty well.

925
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad, I mean, save for Purdue.

926
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 2: Save for Purdue.

927
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what the point differential is. I

928
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: wonder if Purdue's loss completely submarines the Big Ten West

929
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: point differential in these games. It just may like the

930
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: Big Ten West may have gone like five to one

931
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: with a negative point differential.

932
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: It's possible, Yeah, it is possible. I'd also throw the

933
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: SEC in there. I know it's kind of an old

934
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 2: answer at this point, but just the teams that won

935
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: in the SEC, I think spoke volumes about the conference

936
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: still being really strong at the top. There might have

937
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: been some doubt about Auburn, but Auburn not obviously one

938
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: in very resounding fashion, Florida knocking off Michigan. I think

939
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: much more so the West the West, but Florida knocking

940
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: off Michigan was pretty big. In the East, Georgia, South

941
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: Carolina not great, Kentucky definitely impressive, Florida one percent impressive.

942
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: The East sort of maybe broke even. But yeah, I

943
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: think you're right about the West.

944
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 2: And I'll close out by saying that the Big Twelve

945
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: with their boost of Texas winning was nice. Oklahoma State,

946
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State won, Baylor making a w was a nice

947
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: touch for them as well. Clearly Oklahoma, which his things

948
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 2: went differently, but I thought they acquitted themselves well when

949
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: they actually played with tempo in the second half.

950
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it was. It was somewhat solid. You know.

951
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: I had a really really nice brain fart. That is

952
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: just me not trolling at all. I maybe yesterday I

953
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: was like, wait, who did USC play?

954
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: Like I was?

955
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: I was legitimately thinking I am totally blanking on USC's

956
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: bowl game. And it was not me trying to say

957
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: ha haaa us s's well. No, I legitimately thought USC

958
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: played somebody and I lost it. So that's that's where

959
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: my brain is at in early twenty nineteen.

960
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: What what other takeaways are there from bowl season so far,

961
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: with one game again remaining to be played.

962
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything that needs to change about

963
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: the structure of the sport? Here's my loaded question, because

964
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: of what we saw in the playoff and what we

965
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: saw with the New Year six games. Is there any

966
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: team that like now upon further reflection, like Michigan. Does

967
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: Michigan need to scrap it all and start over on offense?

968
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: Is there do we need to go to a do

969
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: we need to go to my preferred method of going

970
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: back to the old system and then voting after the

971
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: facts after the New Year's six games on who's going

972
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: to play in a national championship game. I feel like

973
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: things are fine.

974
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's the need to change much of anything.

975
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: The one thing that I would change, and we discussed this,

976
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: is how we hate that New Year's Day isn't quite

977
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: the college football holiday that it used to be. It

978
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: still feels very weird to me that we're not playing

979
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 2: the playoff games on New Year's Day. I understand that

980
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: there are reasons beyond our control why that is. So

981
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean I have to like it, and I

982
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: still don't and I never will. That's the one thing

983
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: to me because New Year's Day was always the one

984
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: thing college football had. I wish they could restore that.

985
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen otherwise, though. I

986
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: think the system's fine now as we launch into this

987
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: bigger discussion about the playoff and who should be in

988
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 2: who shouldn't be in. I just think in general, we

989
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: find ourselves every year viewing the results of bowl season

990
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: as like this Swiss army knife for college football arguments.

991
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: You know you can use them, however you want Notre

992
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: Dame to lose this by twenty seven. It's either a

993
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: disappointment or not a disappointment, or a huge failure of

994
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: the system or Texas. Right, Texas is back because they

995
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: wion on the Sugar Bowl, or maybe they're just lucky

996
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 2: because they caught an unmotivated Georgia Like you could do

997
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: this until you're blue in the face. I don't think

998
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: any of it's too big a cause for concern or

999
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: too big a cause to try and change the state

1000
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: of affairs.

1001
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: It's okay Texas. By the way, they get lsu dk

1002
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: R next year, which will be fun. Yeah, I'm mostly

1003
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: with you. I think everything is fine. Well, The thing

1004
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm bummed about is I am trying to figure out

1005
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: reasons to care about Alabama Clemson. Well, and here here's

1006
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: my current list. What are they gonna do with Christian Wilkins.

1007
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna do something fun, do something weird. Quinn Williams

1008
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: really fun to watch, and big picture, there aren't personalities,

1009
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: there aren't storylines. There's there's not much that I'm finding

1010
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: myself caring about beyond hoping for a good dramatic back

1011
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: and forth. There's there's nothing peripheral at all for me.

1012
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk more about this on our preview show,

1013
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: but that sentiment has been a bit reflected in ticket prices,

1014
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 2: which have steadily dropped since they started hitting the open market.

1015
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: Those prices have gone down.

1016
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: It should never be, by the way, in Santa Clara.

1017
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, that was gonna be my second point. Maybe not

1018
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: the best site for a college football national championship game,

1019
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: certainly not the best stadium, but on the whole, maybe

1020
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: not the best site for it. There are a lot

1021
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 2: of things that I think factor in, not the least

1022
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: of which is this general fatigue towards Clemson in Alabama

1023
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: being so they're playing again again in the eyes of

1024
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: a lot of college football fans who at this point

1025
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: probably couldn't care one way or the other. You and

1026
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: I were kind of in this business of focusing on

1027
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 2: the storylines that we think make games interesting, and I

1028
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: can find a couple here. Trevor Lawrence playing in a

1029
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: game with this magnitude is interesting. Clemson in their defensive

1030
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: line playing against a really good offensive line in Alabama,

1031
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: that's interesting to be Tua being in the National championship

1032
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: game again. All that stuff's interesting to me. I don't

1033
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: know if it's just me though, you know, like, if

1034
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm a fan who doesn't run a podcast, is that

1035
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: something that's really going to reel me in and make

1036
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: me want to watch this game? The ratings I think

1037
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: are really going to tell a pretty big story here

1038
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: after the fact.

1039
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. I just and I don't worry too

1040
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: much about rating stuff and what people do or don't

1041
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: care about. I can only speak for myself, and it's

1042
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: just it's year over years, it's just tougher. It's just

1043
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: like I just I want an awesome USC team to

1044
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: show up, or I want, you know, a Michigan team,

1045
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, want you want variety, tie I just want

1046
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: somebody and I can't blame Alabama or Clemson for just

1047
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: happening to be consistently excellent. It's just, you know, at

1048
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: a certain point, it's just like, Yep, we got it.

1049
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: These are the deepest, most talented teams. Cool.

1050
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, If anything, the playoff confirmed what we thought the

1051
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 2: whole year through.

1052
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a very h what's it called? In

1053
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament just sort of went chalk went chalk.

1054
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: It absolutely went chalk. Clemson out Obama. The been the

1055
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: best two teams all year. Again, we'll preview that game.

1056
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: That show is going to drop later on Thursday night

1057
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 2: if you're listening to us before Thursday. The other tidbit

1058
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 2: that I did want to mention here and I didn't

1059
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: want to litter the beginning of the show with this,

1060
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: but there are now rumors about Brian Kelly potentially being

1061
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: interested in the NFL.

1062
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: Dan what more does he have to prove? Ty go

1063
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: undefeated and lose a huge game? Comfortably done it twice

1064
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: now at Notre Dame. Yeah, do you think do you

1065
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: think it is conceivable?

1066
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: Is it conceivable? Sure, it's conceivable. Okay, you know, there's

1067
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 2: no doubt that there was mutual interest between Brian Kelly

1068
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL a couple of years ago, to some

1069
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 2: degree that may still exist. I think if he wants

1070
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: to make the move, now is probably the time. We

1071
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: can joke about track record on the biggest stages in

1072
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: the college game. But he's fifty seven. If you want

1073
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: wants to make a move, it probably makes sense that

1074
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 2: his stock's never going to get higher than it is

1075
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 2: right now, so that now would be the time. This, though,

1076
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: strikes me as Brian Kelly's agent feeding a story to

1077
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: the media big time. His agent is Trace Armstrong, who,

1078
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 2: for people who aren't familiar with the college football agent business,

1079
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: Trace Armstrong sort of has a thing for playing this

1080
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: media game. He's really good at it.

1081
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Speaker 1: Most agents too.

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00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the reporting here is a little too vague

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00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: for my liking for it to be something that is.

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: Truly from college people, or is it from NFL people?

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00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: Now it's from radio people, Okay, Yeah, you know, like

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00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: most of the articles that are being written, or at

1087
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: least the rumors that have surfaced, are that Kelly's a

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: quote coach of interest, right, And most of the same

1089
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: articles also say that the Bucks are willing to pay

1090
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: something like ten million dollars a year for coach. They

1091
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 2: really want to make a splash, right, But now that

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00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: this has gone through one media cycle, what's happening is

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00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: that both points are kind of melding together and instead

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00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: of them being mutually exclusive, now it's the Bucks would

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00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 2: be willing to pay Brian Kelly ten million dollars, which

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00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: I that can't be true and shouldn't be true for

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00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: him to get Pete Carroll money. Right, So, I think

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00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: this is positioning itself as a leverage play by BKA

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: to try and get some more money because he's not

1100
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: the highest paid coach in college football. He's getting he

1101
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: does pretty well. But you know this to me as

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00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: the hallmark of a agent created leverage play to get

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00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: more money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying radio guy out of Chicago. No, So

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: it's not a big NFL newsbreaker saying this from the

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00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: NFL side.

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00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't know it could happen. I wouldn't blame him

1108
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 2: if he wanted to cash in his chips then take

1109
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 2: a stab at the pro game.

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00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: As of an hour ago, an NFL reporter for ESPN,

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: Jenna Lane, says there are no plans for the Bucks

1112
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: to interview Brian Kelly. At this time, the only interviews

1113
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: that she has personally confirmed are Eric b Enemy and

1114
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: George Edwards.

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: Sokay.

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00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: From the NFL's perspective, it doesn't seem like Brian Kelly

1117
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: is a bright, sparkling name for that job right now.

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00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: That could change.

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: I will believe it when I see it. He's certainly

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: accomplished a lot at the college level. If he wants

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00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: to make that move, I think now be the time

1122
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: for But I believe it when I see it.

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00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: On the flip side, though, the Tampa Bay Bucks also

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00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: do not have to join a college conference. This is true,

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00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: So there's a familiarity there. Ty, This is very true.

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00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 2: All right, anything else that we need to discuss here

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00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: on tonight's show.

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Speaker 1: No, do you have a good New Year's You do

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00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: anything fun?

1130
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: Well, Dan, it's funny you should ask about New.

1131
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: Year's calog any toilets.

1132
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: In New Year's Day. I found myself on a bit

1133
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: of a conquest, a journey, if you will, yeah, to

1134
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: find stores that were open on New Year's Day to

1135
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 2: buy the toilet plunger so I could do a little

1136
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 2: amateur plumbing here at the New Homestead.

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00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: Would you have for New Year's Eve dinner.

1138
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve dinner just ordered in. Had had some

1139
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 2: Italian takeout, okay, how about you.

1140
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: Well that that'll clog a toilet tie as I mentioned,

1141
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: went out and got Italian food chicken, palm, garlic bread.

1142
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: Had had a sort of doughnut looking thing with dual

1143
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: sight alecha some caramel inside. Wonderful, and then watched half

1144
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: a Netflix movie with Jody with and I before she

1145
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: fell asleep at nine thirty. And then I watched some

1146
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: of the football that I miss and fell asleep by

1147
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: ten forty five, so I didn't make it past the

1148
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: ten thirty threshold, but not by much. And then New

1149
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: Year's Day had the in laws over made my dip,

1150
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: posted the picture of the dip actually a gift of

1151
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: the dip online if you see it. It was on Twitter feed,

1152
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: and watched games. That's it eight dip watch games. Can't complain.

1153
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: I walked back into the house with the plunger over

1154
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 2: my shoulder. A hero returns, that's right, like I was

1155
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: Frodo marching to Mordor Dan.

1156
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: We really did bookend this show Lord of the Rings references.

1157
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: We did, so that must mean it's a sign to end.

1158
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, yeah, as we said a couple times,

1159
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 2: we're going to be doing our official National Championship preview

1160
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: excuse me, college Football Playoff National Championship preview show tomorrow.

1161
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: That will drop as a separate show and in place

1162
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: of our normal Sunday show. If we drop that on Sunday,

1163
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: most people probably don't have a chance to listen. So

1164
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: that'll be out tomorrow night, and our next show after

1165
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: that will then be Tuesday, probably dropping late morning yep

1166
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, as we review the National Championship game again

1167
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: between Clemson and Alabama.

1168
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: I should say ty because we mentioned it a few

1169
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: times that we're not going to the Bay Area for

1170
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 1: the National Championship Game and had mentioned that, well, maybe

1171
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: we'll do like a watch party or something in New York. Unfortunately,

1172
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: we did try to make it happen. There are some

1173
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: scheduling conflicts that we really tried to move around, but

1174
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's not in the cards this year. And

1175
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: I can speak for both of us and say we're bumped.

1176
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: We'll make it happened, but you're gonna have to find

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01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: somewhere else and some other beautiful podcasters to watch this

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01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: this game with.

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01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. We will do our best though through hollows

1180
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen to meet as many of you as

1181
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: we can.

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01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Yes, we're very excited for twenty nineteen. Got some big, weird, fun,

1183
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: cool plans. Even we say that a lot, but this

1184
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: year we meet.

1185
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: This is big for us. Yeah yeah, all right for sure.

1186
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 2: Well on that note for that, go over there, Dan

1187
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: Rubinstein for myself over here in East turn Pennsylvania, Ty

1188
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: Hillton Brandt. We will be back, I guess a day

1189
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 2: from now. Talk more to college football with all y'all.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, they solved peace