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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sulims, John Oshan,

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Speaker 1: Brian sex Sex, Jacks Drive and starts right now. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to put it into word, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: to miss it. If I'm anybody watching, I wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: to miss this team and whatever game we have to

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Speaker 1: play and whoever later, I want to be there. You

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Speaker 1: want to see it because it's gonna be something great.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have some greatness, We're gonna make some greatness,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited before so I hope everybody see it.

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Speaker 1: A week of nearly perfect attendance at team field work

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Speaker 1: last week as we get ready for the start of

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Speaker 1: O T A S this week. They were on the

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Speaker 1: field yesterday and we will be on the field Thursday,

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Speaker 1: bringing you all kinds of thoughts and opinions. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time Tuesday, brought to you by Jet Home

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Speaker 1: Loans for You, with Brian Sexton and John Osier. It's

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Speaker 1: a very exciting week and I have to share a

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Speaker 1: funny story. Normally I wouldn't say that I talked Jags

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Speaker 1: the church, and the gospel was about humility and they

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Speaker 1: were on stage and they were saying, now we have

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Speaker 1: to practice humility because when the Jaguars make the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl this year, we have to be humble. And a

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Speaker 1: huge Duval was in church. I never thought this would happen.

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Speaker 1: It's a big change, because you want started to have

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Speaker 1: heard Tebow in church. No, I did not. It was

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Speaker 1: all big picture. It's so many stories like that if

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Speaker 1: supposed to be about. It was supposed to be fun. Well,

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Speaker 1: just real quick going back to you know, when it

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Speaker 1: is fun like this in I took my Boy Scout

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can get back to that really quickly.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter whether it's church or Boy Scout or

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Speaker 1: just you know, at publish walking through the aisle. When

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Speaker 1: you have a team that excites people, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: people will stop you and say, John, what are they

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Speaker 1: doing a lot? Right? Are they going to win this week? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: it happens. It's good for Jacksonville. When it is that way,

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Speaker 1: the energy levels infectious, lots of excitement around the area

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Speaker 1: started with that as we head in two big things.

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Speaker 1: Big thing one is the story, at least what everyone

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow. All kinds of questions about this and how

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work, But in reality, we're viewing this as

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Speaker 1: normally doesn't make headlines. And that's the way we're looking

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Speaker 1: at this. So now let's go to a big thing too,

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Speaker 1: which is the real story. With all of this going on,

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Speaker 1: why it makes you feel better about everything when you

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Speaker 1: say you have a fight with your wife and you say, well,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is the quarterback of Jacksonville and that kind

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Speaker 1: it could make you feel better. Finally, Big Thing three

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Speaker 1: players flying around the field being excited for an off

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Speaker 1: season program, or maybe call it that we're seeing these

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Speaker 1: But I'm a I'm a big guy and in the

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Speaker 1: So he um he basically you know, um get what

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Speaker 1: seeing that with the wider wide receivers. Yeah, and it's UH,

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Speaker 1: it's clearly a major party of Urban Meyers. He believes

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Speaker 1: this is something I don't wanna say that's lacking everywhere else,

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Speaker 1: but he believes this is an area where they can

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Speaker 1: the other side of the wine, you're talking about guys

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Speaker 1: on more physical therapy. UH facilities so these guys not

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Speaker 1: ready for the next practice session, which of course makes

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Speaker 1: I haven't understood the outrage about the tebow thing. I

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't hurt anyone else for him to have

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Speaker 1: that's just for clicks. I don't know where those inside

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Speaker 1: it's not great for other urban Meyer above anything else.

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Speaker 1: And you guys been around him a little bit, what

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Speaker 1: does he want to do more anything else? When So, yes,

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Speaker 1: set up there than it is anywhere else in national football,

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Speaker 1: and not all franchise because dude, I could do what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, but the Packers could be what the

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Speaker 1: Steelers would be in the situation, the Steels would say

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Speaker 1: that y. The bigger issue is now you have a

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Speaker 1: bunch of quarterbacks that are that are playing these cards

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Speaker 1: and and they want, you know, Russell Wilson, they want

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Speaker 1: more of a say Russell Wilson in particular, once more

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Speaker 1: of a say in personnelity. Well, no, no, you play,

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Speaker 1: we pay right. You can't have the players in there

435
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Speaker 1: because they're not taking the time. They're not scouting, they're

436
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Speaker 1: not watching the tape on these kids. They're not trained

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Speaker 1: to be. And then they play the game, but then

438
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Speaker 1: trained to make scouting decisions. Coaches coach, scout, scouts, players play.

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Speaker 1: It's a sticky situation. It's going to be interesting. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of sticky situations, this is a different thing with quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and that is Deshaun Watson. Yeah, that's mine, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: will be I have no idea in Week one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's not an answer. I don't know the answer. Watching

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Speaker 1: My thought is you're right, Brian, with two and a

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Speaker 1: half months out, I guess it is, and he'll be

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Speaker 1: watching what. Yeah, this is the most muddled because there's

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Speaker 1: all the off the field stuff as well. Um, and

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Speaker 1: this is different than Aaron because right now you're assuming

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Speaker 1: the Texans want him, but with the off the field

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Speaker 1: are you assuming the Texans one? And you're assuming that

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson wants out? But with the off the field

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Speaker 1: does even have a chance to be out. So this

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Speaker 1: is much more modeled. I think this one takes a

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Speaker 1: long a long time to play out, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he's playing for the Texans in Week one.

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Speaker 1: I think the Texans want him so that they can

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Speaker 1: trade him. I mean that's the other The crazy part

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Speaker 1: is is that the story broke about all of the

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Speaker 1: massage therapists. This was the year to trade him, where

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks were in the top ten and they didn't

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Speaker 1: have any picks. I mean, the opportunity that they had

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Speaker 1: to be able to move on from a player that

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be there and replace him with the

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Speaker 1: player that did, and then grab aig whole of pigs

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Speaker 1: for right for Shawn Watson, one of the premier players

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Speaker 1: that windows closed. Now his trade value is well, it

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Speaker 1: depends on the outcome of all these cases. I mean

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Speaker 1: the Texans lost three times in the scenario and and

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Speaker 1: not knowing what they got in the fall maybe four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you got to think the trade value. You can't

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Speaker 1: do it right now because what team is going to

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Speaker 1: bring that on and bringing that story. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to wait a little bit of a different situation for

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Speaker 1: to Shawn anyway, because he's not quite the Aaron Rodgers level,

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Speaker 1: meaning even if you pay him or trade him, you

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Speaker 1: don't quite know what you're getting the way you do

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. I mean, And the reason I say

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Speaker 1: that just Shaun Watson was elite last year and they

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Speaker 1: were four and twelve. I don't know that. And Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers team or a Russell Wilson team, necessarily if they're

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Speaker 1: playing at an elite level, if they sink that low.

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Speaker 1: So is Deshaun quite at that level? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he has yet. And that brings another element, how

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Speaker 1: bad do you want them if you're trading for I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is his complex. The one is that as I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen on that front, with a lot of threads

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Speaker 1: and no real answers. And I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 1: You're you're paying for the promise on that these twenty

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Speaker 1: six I mean coming into the prime years of his career,

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Speaker 1: whereas Aaron Rodgers is exiting. But Rodgers is exiting with

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Speaker 1: m v p s and Super Bowls and that it's

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Speaker 1: a very complex issue. Here's the thing. The Texans two

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Speaker 1: years ago look like a jugger. Not right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Houston's a market with a lot of money. They've got

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Speaker 1: a great stadium set up there, they sell a lot

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Speaker 1: of tickets. It looked like they were going to just

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Speaker 1: become a force. And now it looks like they're about

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Speaker 1: to become you choose, not forced, not force, not a

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Speaker 1: very strong force. All right, here we go. Now we're

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Speaker 1: going wide receiver. Yesterday on Undisturbed, Shannon Sharp called Julio

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Speaker 1: Jones live on television and ask him are you playing

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta next year? And he goes, no, I'm out

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Speaker 1: of their duh. It was quite a moment. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if he knew he was live on television, but

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Speaker 1: nonetheless says he's not playing in Atlanta, So where will

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Speaker 1: he be playing next season? I say, he's playing in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas for the Raiders. Wouldn't this be flashy and

508
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Speaker 1: the NFL would be all over this? Now. Brent and

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Speaker 1: I were looking at the cap yesterday and they're gonna

510
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Speaker 1: have to make this work. They're gonna have to move

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Speaker 1: some stuff around because, Yeah, but they've got a real

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Speaker 1: good spot. They can do it. Uh. Derek Carr, their quarterback,

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Speaker 1: has expired his dead money, so he's got a twenty

514
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Speaker 1: or twenty six million dollar cap hit, but it's almost

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Speaker 1: all paragraph five salary, meaning they can pull some of

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Speaker 1: that out renegotiate without giving him extra years on the contract.

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Speaker 1: They can maneuver that and find a way to take

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Speaker 1: money and give it to Julio Jones. But they got

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Speaker 1: to give up something big for him to yep, And

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Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr would be just fine with renegotiating

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Speaker 1: that contract if it means he gets a weapon like

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Speaker 1: Julio Jones. And the Raiders aren't exactly in the mix

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Speaker 1: of all these teams you're hearing about, but I just

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Speaker 1: see this being a slam dunk trade and I'm really

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Speaker 1: curious to see where he goes. And if you're Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: how do you fix this? The guy says he wants

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Speaker 1: to win and he doesn't feel like he can win

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta. If you're the Falcons, do you give him up?

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Speaker 1: You know, well, they have your contract, you want to win.

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Speaker 1: Here you go. He has sixty five or sixty six

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Speaker 1: million dollars in dead money, which again that dead money

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Speaker 1: accelerates onto the cap. Now it'll be after after June one,

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Speaker 1: so you can pro rate that over two years. But

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Speaker 1: it's a significant hit for the Falcons to be able

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Speaker 1: to say. Plus, if you're Matt Ryan, you just got

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Speaker 1: this kind of Pitt's kid. Right. By the way, they

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Speaker 1: have to do something with Julio because they don't have

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Speaker 1: any money to sign their rookie class, right They need

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: eight or ten million bucks to be able to sign

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Speaker 1: these guys. So they've got to find a way because

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Speaker 1: he's a huge number. He's thirty two, and he's been

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Speaker 1: injury prone the last two seasons. So it's a big

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Speaker 1: decision on their part. Do they keep him and and

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Speaker 1: push money out or do they move on from him

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Speaker 1: and like Kyle, Pitt's become the star. Yeah, the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing I'm trying to think of this and I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of this last night, I'm like, where, what's the solution?

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Speaker 1: What's the band aid for this? Of all these players

549
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: that you're seeing, this Trent bigger than ever this season

550
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: of wanting out of their team and wanting to move.

551
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know, but it's not that easy. Rip

552
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: the band aid off, deal with it. Well, you know

553
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: at some point, well, John's right, at some point you

554
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: have to stop this because players signed contracts. In general,

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Speaker 1: managers and coaches scout and build their team around a

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Speaker 1: couple of key players. I mean, this isn't a backup

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Speaker 1: right tackle that's demanding. This is a star quarterback, the

558
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Speaker 1: face of the franchise in Green Bay, in Houston, in Seattle,

559
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: it's Julio Jones, who has been one of the faces

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Speaker 1: of the franchise. You can't just be what you want

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Speaker 1: out now. Remember the contract and the bonus money, Remember

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Speaker 1: the look in your eye when you got the big check,

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Speaker 1: and in the things that we said in that room

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Speaker 1: privately about you know, winning together because they do well.

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Speaker 1: At some point you just have to go we all

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Speaker 1: did this together. We agree, and that's the thing people miss.

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Speaker 1: Everybody says, well, uh, the league has the right to

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Speaker 1: cut players, so why shouldn't players have the right to negotiation.

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Speaker 1: The promise for players guarantee is the cash upfront and

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Speaker 1: the guaranteed money. Every player or every agent who signs

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Speaker 1: these contracts understands that I think the other solution to

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Speaker 1: that part and this is a way verier conversation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then change the way contracts are done in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Change the entire cb A to where that's easy to understand.

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Speaker 1: But as of right now, when these teams sign these

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Speaker 1: guys two deals they do so, especially the mega deals,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're building their cap around. So I'd be

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Speaker 1: able to walk away from it. It doesn't work for

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Speaker 1: you know, for anybody, but they have the right to

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Speaker 1: do this. So just to extrap real quickly on that,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are in a pre me in position with

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback that we think is going to be

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Speaker 1: excellent for the next three years. Their cap is going

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Speaker 1: to be clean, but they're going to be planning signing contracts.

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Speaker 1: Got Josh Allen comes right to mind. They're going to

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Speaker 1: find a way to get a long term deal with

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Speaker 1: him done and push as much money into the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years as possible. Because they're planning on when

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Speaker 1: Trevor is going to go from being uh twelve or

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Speaker 1: fourteen million a year to fifty million a year. Right,

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Speaker 1: the fifty million dollar quarterback is coming and it's going

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Speaker 1: to be him. So they've got to have their cap

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Speaker 1: go you And I just decided don't like it here.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't like the coach, or I don't

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Speaker 1: I went out, No, you can't do that. You can't.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like a house. You can't just go back

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Speaker 1: I want to move upon of Adre instead. Gosh, what

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