WEBVTT - Liberty, Law and Justice 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.560 Hi, and welcome to the Sean Hannity Show. My name 0:00:02.600 --> 0:00:05.080 is Rose and guess what, they invited me back again. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:08.320 So I'm really happy because I love Sean's audience. Glad 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.760 to be here with you. You guys are awesome. Sean 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.880 is in China with President Trump. I don't know if 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:16.680 you saw this, but they literally rolled out the red 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:20.120 carpet for him, such fanfare, and it's great. We'll talk 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.680 about that later in the show, but it was a 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.400 lovely thing to behold. Linda talked to Sean earlier today 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:28.600 and we're going to be bringing you that information in 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.960 that interview at four o'clock. But in the meantime, I'd 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.640 like to talk about where conviction meets calling and whether 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.319 freedom is worth the cut. No, I think it is, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:41.240 But why don't you think about that for a while, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.919 because when I think about America, I think about it 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.920 as more than a place. It's the idea that greatness 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.720 doesn't come from a ruling class, but from ordinary people 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:56.720 carrying extraordinary dreams. Our founders understood that the only way 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.160 to unleash the power of individuals to let them be free, 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.600 and in their wisdom, they understood that the answer to 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:10.960 the human condition was liberty protected by the rule of law. 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.600 And that's what made America America. It wasn't just their 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.119 rocky mountains or the fruited plains. It's not our lakes, 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.080 our rivers, wind swept shores. I mean, those are all great, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.080 but it was an idea. And once that idea is lost, 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.960 I suggest that America would be lost as well. And 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.480 all that's necessary to keep the republic is never forget 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.280 what made this country great in the first place, and 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.200 that was liberty. You only have to look at politics 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:44.760 right now, academia, media, law to see that the American 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.680 idea has been gradually fading from our memories. That's why 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:54.080 this generation really does carry responsibility not only to remember liberty, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.520 but to protect it. The men and women who built 0:01:56.520 --> 0:02:00.639 this nation understood something extraordinary that they would never fully 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.760 enjoy the benefits of their sacrifices because they knew when 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.600 they were doing it that what they built they were 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.200 building for people they would never meet. That to took 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:11.760 courage and conviction. The forge a nation designed to stand 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.880 against the tyranny of concentrated power. They risk their own lives, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:21.600 their livelihoods, their fortunes so that generations still unborn to 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:26.840 live in freedom. Now that responsibility belongs to us. This year, 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.000 I know, we celebrate two hundred and fifty years of 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.600 the Declaration of Independence, but you know what, this year 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.800 also marks the two hundred and thirty eighth anniversary of 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:41.840 the ratification of the Constitution, the document framed in Philadelphia. 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.519 It was in seventeen eighty seven, after months of fierce 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:50.160 debate among all fifty five delegates, determined to create a 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:54.720 constitutional and federal republic that would be strong enough to endure, 0:02:55.360 --> 0:03:00.560 but restrained enough to preserve liberty. That same since just 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.720 eleven years earlier, as we've talked about yesterday, gave birth 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.600 to the Declaration of Independence. And while those two documents 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:11.440 are often spoken about together, they were never meant to 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.560 do the same job. The Declaration tells us why America exists. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.600 It declared that our rights do not come from government, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.280 but from God, that every person is created with inherent 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:30.360 dignity and liberty no ruler can rightfully take away. But 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.480 the Declaration alone could not sustain a nation. And that's 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.600 where the Constitution comes in. If the Declaration is the why, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:44.160 the Constitution is the how it transforms principle into structure, 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.640 established laws, checks and balances, and limits on power so 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.120 freedom can survive beyond a single generation. They did a 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.280 heck of a job, didn't they. My boy gets challenged 0:03:56.320 --> 0:04:02.440 every day. One document declares freedom, the other one protects it. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.600 And together they formed the backbone of a nation built 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:11.360 not merely on independence, but on the responsibility of governing 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.880 freedom wisely. See this is important. We needed both. That's 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.760 why the Constitution still matters so much today, because there 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:23.279 was always going to be pressure, subtle and direct, for 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.960 government to expand its own authority rather than protect the 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.520 liberty of the people. But there is something deeper that 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.120 we've got to understand if we are fully going to 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:37.120 grasp what made this nation possible in the first place. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.680 Because America didn't begin with political ideas, It began with 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:46.080 a moral formation. Because long before independence was declared, the 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.320 American colonies were already being shaped by something quieter but 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.680 more powerful than politics alone, and that was a spiritual awakening. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.799 You could go all across the colonies. Sermons filled churches 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:03.320 and the meetinghouses. Ministers talk not only of salvation, but 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:08.440 of responsibility, of virtue and conscience and accountability. Before God. 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:12.279 And see that was the belief that took root, that 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:16.520 liberty without moral restraint could not survive for long. So 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.560 if you want to know why it survived as long 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.000 as it has, it's because of that moral restraint, because 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:28.200 of a moral formation. In other words, self government required 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.080 self governance. And this is where the American experiment becomes unique. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.440 The founders didn't believe freedom meant the absence of structure. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:41.200 They believe freedom required a people capable of governing themselves 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:45.839 because they understood a higher moral order. And that's where 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.320 the declacaration of is so powerful. It doesn't begin with government, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.839 it begins with truth that rights are not granted by 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:58.040 kings or legislatures, but are endowed by the Creator. Now 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.279 that belief changes every because if rights come from God, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:07.159 then government is never the source of liberty, only it's steward. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.640 And if government is only a steward, then its powers 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.400 must always be limited. I mean, that's the philosophy underneath 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:19.560 everything that we inherited, not just political design, but moral conviction. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.920 And that's precisely why the Constitution matters. It's not simply 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:28.279 a legal framework, it's the structure built to preserve a 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.839 moral idea in a political system that will always be 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.400 under pressure to drift. As I said, one declares freedom, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.640 the other protects it, but both both rest on something deeper, 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:47.560 the belief that free people must also be a responsible people, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.080 because when that responsibility fades, the structure alone is not enough. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:56.919 And so the question isn't whether we understand the constitution. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.240 The question is whether we still understand the moral found 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.640 that made it possible. And that, my friends, is what 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:08.040 keeps getting chipped away at constantly because without that foundation, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.800 and those who love socialism, by the way, in communism, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.920 they understand this better than we do. Without that moral foundation, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:22.160 even the best designed republic eventually weakens from within. The 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:27.280 parent of America isn't just institutional, it's moral, spiritual, generational, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.160 and it must be renewed in character. So the real 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.160 question is do we still believe that freedom requires something 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.080 of us, not just rights to defend, but responsibilities for 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.720 us to actually live out. Because that is what made 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.160 this nation possible in the first place, not just ideas 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.040 on paper, but people willing to live as though those 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.920 ideas were true. And one of the most urgent responsibilities 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.600 we face today isn't just preserving the ideas of this nation, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:59.600 but passing them on because that next generation doesn't understand 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.920 where America came from, we'll never understand what it's meant 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.560 to be. And right now, too many young people are 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:10.480 being shaped by fragments of history instead of the full story. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:16.160 If they're taught anything at all about our history, important 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.840 context is often reduced, it's simplified. They find ways to 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.520 filter it in ways that leave out the very principles 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.680 that made this country unique in the first place. And 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.080 since that responsibility no longer rests in the classrooms, you 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.560 know it, and I know it, it's got to rest 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.880 in homes and in families, in our communities, and in 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.679 our voices, willing to speak truth clearly, in consistency, pass 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.960 it on to the next generation, because no one else 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.760 is going to do it if we don't. If history 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.520 isn't fully taught, it's got to be intentionally remembered and 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.080 passed down. Because a nation that forgets its story, I 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.200 gotta tell you, is can eventually forget its identity. And 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.120 you can even see that right now, the shadows of that. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.520 And we believe the ideas of liberty and self government 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.440 and respect. I feel like that guy on the commercial 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.600 liberty liberty. We believe the ideas of liberty, self government, 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.120 and responsibility are worth preserving, then we also have to 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.720 be willing to ensure our children know exactly what those 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:22.480 ideas cost, why they matter, and what happens when they're lost. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.520 This is so important and we can't count on anyone 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.679 else doing this job for us but ourselves. And if 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.360 you're a parent right now, a grandparent, that's your responsibility. 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.520 We owe it. We owe it to those brave men 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.960 and women who did all that they could for us. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:44.480 And I love when we break down that Constitution and 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:48.840 we remember this is about something that began with moral formation. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.360 It is a moral restraint. If you can't have that 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.640 liberty without that moral restraint. I just had to get 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.679 that off my chest today, So thanks for letting me 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.280 do that. We do have a really great show planned 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:05.120 for you today. Great Jarrett is coming up next actually 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.520 at the half hour. I love Greg Jarrett. We're going 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.920 to talk about a lot of things on the schedule 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.880 here because there's so much going on all the time. Also, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:17.160 we have the author of the New York Times bestselling 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:21.880 book Killed to Order, China's Organ Harvesting industry. Oh my gosh, 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.880 I've had him on my show. This is a horrific story, 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:26.760 but we got to get to it. Also, I want 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.120 to tell you about my TV show on Real Life 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.880 Network is now available when I'm so excited about that 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.760 the new show at real lifenetwork dot com. All you 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.680 have to do is go in, sign up for free 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.839 and search Rose Unplugged or download Real Life Network app 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.680 on all platforms Real lifenetwork dot com log in search 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.000 for Rose Unplugged and also my ministry, She is Called 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:51.320 by Him dot Com. This is so important to me. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.640 Every time I'm on the show, I get a ton 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.600 of prayer requests. We did last night and they are 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.200 kept anonymous. We have a team of women who pray 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.880 over every single one of them. Also, we have a 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.800 daily devotional that's coming soon, but we do right now 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:08.720 have a free weekly newsletter that's encouraging and uplifting. You 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.959 have to subscribe for it to go to She is 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:15.040 Called by Him dot Com. Coming up, we'll talk more 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.720 about some of the things that are happening, a little 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.160 bit about the China trip, and then Greg Jared at 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.640 the half Hours to stay with me. Welcome back to 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:24.839 the Sean Hannity Show. My name is Rose. By the way, 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.760 the phone number here is one eight hundred nine four 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.280 one Sean, one eight hundred nine to four to one. Sean. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.920 I'd love to take your phone calls today. I think 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.480 we're gonna have more time to do that. Looking forward 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.680 to talking to you. Also, I want to remind everybody 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.319 that not only did Lynna do an interview with Sean, 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.360 it's this Afternoon is going to air at four o'clock hour, 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.560 so make sure that you tune in for that because 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.720 he's going to give us some really great updates. Also, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.679 Sean is doing a live show tonight from China. It's 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.200 going to be a special two hours. Apparently he's got 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.960 some amazing interviews, but of course he does. He's Sean Hannity. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:04.199 So that's tonight starting at nine regular time, live from China. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.839 Make sure you tune into the Sean Hannity TV Show 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.720 as well, but at four we'll hear from him then too. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.400 You know, yesterday we had new Gingridge on and we 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:15.640 talked a little bit about the midterm elections, and it 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:19.080 appears that American voters don't they're not so keen on 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:23.200 Democrats at this time, and according that's according to our 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.600 recent CNN poll, because the numbers show that Democrats are 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.840 slipping as each tay goes by and Republicans are gearing 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.920 up for the twenty twenty six midterm election, and in 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.439 some cases, if you look at certain pulling, they are 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.800 actually growing stronger. CNN reported that registered voters are now 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.720 closely split in their partisan preference ahead of the midterms. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.040 That's actually good news. One of the things, though, that 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.080 new Gingridge talked about yesterday was branding. He felt that 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.280 we could really have a strong victory if we branded 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.920 correctly and we messaged. But here's the thing. I remember 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.960 the first term that Donald Trump had White House, and 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.200 you could I was doing a lot of radio at 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.120 the time. I mean I was full time radio, and 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.640 I would be able to go to a number of 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.920 sources to find out what he did today. And I 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.360 mean there is a list of his accomplishments the first 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.400 hundred days. Beyond the first hundred days, I mean, it 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.040 was easy to see and to find what it was 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.000 he was doing. Now, I know that he's still doing 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.280 things right now, but they're not making it as available 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.880 to everyone as they once did. And I feel like 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:29.480 that is so important right now. We need to talk 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:32.120 about the positive all of the things that he's been 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:35.920 doing that are benefiting the American people, I mean just 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.840 taxes alone. So I feel like the branding and the 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.200 messaging could be a little stronger. In fact, that is 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.680 what New Ginger's talked about as being necessary for a 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.040 victory in the fall. So I'm just hoping I've got 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.400 my fingers crossed that they do a little better job 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.240 of that. They did an amazing job first time around. 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.640 It really was easy to find out. But Republicans are 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.359 still trying to simplify their message going into the midterms. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.080 Even Jim Jordan spoke about that during an appearance on 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.480 breip Art News Daily I saw. The host asked him 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.880 how Republicans could win the mid terms, especially since the 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.560 party in power usually faces that uphill battle. You know it, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.079 they've talked about that before, but Representative Jordan answered by 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.320 boiling it down to what he called two sentences. They're crazy, 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.720 We're not. Yeah they are. So another great thing would 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.520 be is to point all the crazy out and you 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.080 would think it would be obvious. It's so obvious to 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.240 most of us, But there's so many on the left 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.720 that just aren't getting it. So yeah, let's point out 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.400 they're crazy, we're not. And he said that Republicans simply 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.800 need to make that contrast clear to the American people. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:47.120 So I think it should be easy, but they are crazy, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.240 and in fact, President Trump said the same thing. 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:49.880 Now. 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.000 JD. Vance was talking today, and we're going to get 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.600 too into this a little bit more later in the program, 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.480 but one of the things he talked about I noticed 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.960 towards the end when he was taking questions, the Dream 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.800 Team came up. And you've even heard President Trump talk 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.280 about the Dream Team, and when he talks about the 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.000 Dream Team, he talks about Marco Rubio and JD. Vance 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.400 And I have to tell you, personally, it's just fun 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.240 to watch just how much I've always liked Marco Rubio, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:19.200 but he has really grown and he's just really shown 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.320 himself to be quite the statesman. But I have some 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:27.080 information and it's really hitting the social media platforms really strong. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.080 Right now, going back to twenty fifteen on some of 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.400 the things that Rubio said that we're very precient. So 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:34.440 we're going to talk about that, we'll talk about the 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.480 Dream Team, all of that coming up. One eight hundred 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.480 nine four to one, Shawn one eight hundred nine four 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.800 one Shawn one, eight hundred nine to four one. Shawn 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.240 call me. I'd love to hear from you today. This 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.200 is the Sean Handedy Show. My name is Rose. Welcome 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.240 back to the Sean Handedy Show. My name is Rose. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.320 Sitting in for him today. But while Sewan is in China, 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.120 he is calling in and Linda's going to interview him 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.880 at four o'clock today, so look forward to that. But 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.440 in the meantime, joining us right now is Fox News 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.920 Legal an analyst and New York Times best selling author 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.160 Greg Jarrett to offer his perspective on shooter Cole Allen 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.520 and a few other items on my list. Welcome Greg, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:12.360 How are you? 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:14.280 Yeah? Fine, Road's good to be with you. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.160 Yeah. I love talking to you, I really do. There's 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:18.640 so many things I want to ask you about, but 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.880 let's start with Cole Allen because a lot of Americans 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.120 are watching the prosecution really closely, and it's not just 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.640 because of the allegations, but because of the growing controversy 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:33.000 that's been surrounding the DOJ and the court proceedings and 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.480 the defense. Once Todd Blanche and Janine pra Piro removed 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.840 from the case because they attended the White House correspondence 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.880 diinner legally, Greg how strong is that argument? And does 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.360 and by the way, and does simply being present at 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.400 the event create a real conflict of interest? 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.520 Really does Dan, It's a pretty weak argument. Look, the 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:56.240 rules of ethics call for recusal on two grounds, if 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.320 they have speaking of Todd, Blanche and Janine, or if 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:03.600 they have a personal or political involvement in the case, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.640 or if they have a substantial interest in the outcome 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:12.199 because of a connection to it. But understand that a 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:18.840 potential conflict is not necessarily disqualifying if the attorneys can 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:23.840 still be fair and impartial, and the legal standard is 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.520 that there has to be clear evidence of a conflict 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.280 to disqualify. Now, it's true that Pirou and Blanche were 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:35.960 inside the ballroom, but the shooting occurred outside the ballroom, 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:43.960 so they're not witnesses anything, despite what defense counsel is claiming. Now, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.840 are they biased in some way because they could have 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:53.000 been targeted eval and gain access. That's pretty debatable because 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.960 the same charges would be brought regardless, which I think 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.479 is why the defense is sort of resorted to the 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:05.440 last claim of, well, there's an appearance of a conflict 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:11.640 that might affect the public's perception of impartiality. I don't 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.800 think it's going to work. But even if the court 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.760 rules that there is a conflict, it doesn't really affect 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:25.000 the case. Piro and Todd would be recused. Other top 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.920 lawyers in the US Attorney's Office in DC would prosecute 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.399 Cole Allen. If the entire office is disqualified, which I 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:37.159 seriously doubt, then you simply transfer it to a different 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:42.440 US attorney in a nearby jurisdiction they'd prosecute him. Or 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.520 you could also appoint a special prosecutor. The fact of 0:18:46.560 --> 0:18:49.480 the matter is Cole Allen doesn't have a defense. He 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:53.960 incriminated himself in photographs and a confessional. He laid out 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.560 how he planned a mass murder and the assassination of 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:03.200 top officials, eyewitnesses, his video of what he did. So 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.480 he's going to get convicted. His attorneys right now are 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.000 just trying to do anything they can to disrupt the prosecution. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.399 Now that makes sense, but you know, right now a 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.520 lot of conservatives watching all of this, and they're asking 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.639 themselves whether Americans, if we can still trust the justice 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.200 system to operate without politics influencing outcomes. And I just wonder, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.280 do you think that this case is intensifying those concerns 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.359 or is it just business as usual? 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:36.359 Well, I you know, given the Russia hoax, the law 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:44.200 fair campaign against Donald Trump, the conspiracies to deprive him 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.399 of rights, I mean, it is so blatant, and it 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.199 happened over a long period of time that it's no 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:55.560 wonder that Americans have lost faith in our legal system. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:01.399 They have seen with their own eyes compelling evidence of 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.560 the two tiered system of justice. You know, Joe Biden 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:11.119 can keep classified documents, but Donald Trump can't. Biden doesn't 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:17.359 get prosecuted, but Donald Trump does. Americans are pretty smart. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.320 They see this for what it is. It's crooked and corrupt. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.600 Yeah, and I feel like it's another This case could 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.040 just become another major flashpoint when we have a debate 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.000 over fairness and consistency with the American justice system, because 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:36.160 particularly when you have a judge apologizing for detention conditions, 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.720 I mean, that was clearly not appropriate. President Trump weighed 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.080 in on that, and we know of stories in the 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:46.200 past how the conditions were bad for others that were 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:50.480 detained and yet nothing was said from the bench. 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:57.880 Right, Well, it was outrageous and stupid for this magistrate 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:03.840 to apologize. He doesn't seem to comprehend that Cole Allen 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:08.000 was treated as anybody would in a serious case like that. 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.320 You put him in a safe cell under observation make 0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.359 sure he can't harm himself, because there's an affirmative duty 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.520 imposed on the government under the eighth Amendment of the 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:25.160 Constitution to make sure it doesn't harm himself. And if 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.400 he had harmed himself, then you know, the same lawyers 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:31.760 complaining about the safe cell would have said, you know, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.520 why didn't you put him in a safer cell? So 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:36.760 you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:42.840 And I also understand that the guy who apologized isn't 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.880 even a real judge. He's not an Article three judge 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:50.280 appointed by the federal by the President of the Federal Bench. No, 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:55.000 he's a magistrate, which is a guy who handles sort 0:21:55.040 --> 0:22:00.560 of you know, arraignments and bail hearings and petty matters 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.040 that real judges, district court judges don't want to be 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:08.280 bothered with. So he's nothing more than a hired assistant 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.600 and this particular magistrate has a long and distinguished record 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:17.120 of liberal dei causes, and it's not the first time 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:20.520 he's apologized to somebody in custody. 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:24.639 You know, I know you're not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.200 but you got to ask the question. If a guy 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.680 puts himself all over social media and I'm talking about 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:33.160 cold right now, and he clearly does he really believe 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:34.920 he could get away with something like this? What kind 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:37.840 of person? It just astounds me. We go through all 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:39.639 of this knowing that he's probably not going to make 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:40.560 it out on the other end. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.439 What are you You know, how often have we seen this? 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:51.720 There have been three assassination attempts against Trump. You know, 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:58.040 we've seen Charlie Kirk's assassin, Tyler Robinson. And these are 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:08.800 unhinged people, and you know, they became become wrapped up, brainwashed, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:13.960 if you will, in you know, by politics, and they 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:18.920 annoying themselves as the person who is going to fix 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:24.840 it and do it for violence and you know, there's 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:29.400 far too much of that. Has the divisive, ugly rhetoric 0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:36.360 contributed to that sort of political brainwashing that turns into violence. Yeah, 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:42.160 I think so. You know, when Democrats and others spend 0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:46.360 so much of their time, including the media, vilifying at 0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:50.320 every turn everything that Donald Trump does. It has an 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:55.320 effect on all the nutballs out there, and this is 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:57.800 the inexorable result. 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.280 Well, it's just amazing, it really and it's so sad 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.080 to watch this that this is what we've become as 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:07.120 a society. I wanted to move into John Brennan's part 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:10.400 in the Russia hoax because how significant is it that 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:14.600 both Kelsey Gabbard and Jim Jordan made criminal referrals regarding 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.160 the former CIA director John Brennan. 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:22.119 Yeah, it's highly significant. Those are very important referrals, and 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.199 they're taken seriously by the Department of Justice and the 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:29.280 various US attorneys that have jurisdiction. And we learned just 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:37.000 yesterday that the FBI has been interviewing CIA officials about 0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:42.280 what John Brennan did. And it looks to me like 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:46.399