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<v Speaker 1>Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorne Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Melro's Minute Goals.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a lot of time, Ladies. Some stuff happened

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<v Speaker 3>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>It did happen this week. So Molrow's has been a

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<v Speaker 1>bit in the news because Kristin Davis on her podcast

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<v Speaker 1>talked about pressure to be thin on Molrow's Place. Mm hmmm, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just curious. Did you experience anything like pressure

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<v Speaker 1>to be thin in Hollywood?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just curious about you think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm starting to learn your sarcasm. Court Gold, you

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<v Speaker 2>love shooting dancing scenes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like yeah, and you're like, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't we as young actresses get pressure to stay thin?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, No, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody said to me. She was talking about pressure to

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<v Speaker 1>stay thin on Melow's Place, and I thought, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I read closer, it wasn't overt pressure. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>she felt the pressure because she got into this world

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<v Speaker 1>where everyone looked thin and fit, and there's pressure, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tension on you. There's a lot of soul actress.

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<v Speaker 1>She was an actress, so there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things who said things. We can get to that in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, but I think that's how it felt, right

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think anyone ever said to me you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be thin, but there was this competition and

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<v Speaker 1>this sense in the press, and when you're going to fittings,

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<v Speaker 1>like imagine going to fittings and standing in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a big mirror and have them put clothes on you

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<v Speaker 1>several times a week. It's psychological like And when I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinner. It's interesting because even though when I was

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<v Speaker 1>really dieting, had thought about food all the time, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to think about it when I was working.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like which devil do you pick? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you pick the devil where you're constantly dieting and exercising.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do remember that as a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>Mero's place, right Like I would wake up no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what my call time was, it was six. I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up at four. I had a big cup of coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>and I exercised, and I remember being very aware of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate it exhausting.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course that was the era.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a particular business, like what other what other

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<v Speaker 4>industry and what other business is gonna, you know, make

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<v Speaker 4>women feel even more pressure to to be a certain

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<v Speaker 4>way or certain shape or certain size.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, then we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're yeah, we're doing it on camera, and we're we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Faced with it in the mirror, and it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just a particular business. It's not it's not the healthiest

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<v Speaker 4>you know, mindset for any of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, guys, I'm pulling up Kristin Davis what she actually said,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not sure it was the producers.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it may have been a co star of ours.

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<v Speaker 2>That made her all neurotic. If you can guess, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you one guess. Is too freaked Kristin Davis

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<v Speaker 2>out about her weight on our show? Would it be

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<v Speaker 2>Heather No, No, Doug No, I mean Grant Andrew never.

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<v Speaker 3>Who does that leave Thomas Collabora. Okay, now tell us

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<v Speaker 3>tell us what was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, her memory was that Thomas Collabora said, hey, Kristen,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you look great, and she's like, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, I know the producers are really worried,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think it's great that we have a woman

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<v Speaker 3>with curves.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, which I really should be a compliment, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly think he meant it as a compliment. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I honestly think he twisted it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know effing way.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, Well, Thomas has a way of putting his

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<v Speaker 4>foot in his mouth. But I think you're probably right, Cord.

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<v Speaker 4>He probably meant it as a compliment, but it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of like foot in his mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>Collabra. You guys are so she was very thin.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's interesting about it, right, We get so warped,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's hard for people to really understand,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you hear TV puts on ten pounds, TV puts

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<v Speaker 1>on ten pounds, I can't. My girlfriends used to get

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<v Speaker 1>so mad because I they knew that I was always

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<v Speaker 1>way too aware of dieting and exercise. I talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about it in the nineties, and I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>would come up to me all the time and say

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<v Speaker 1>to me, oh my god, TV really does put on

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<v Speaker 1>ten pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Random.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're getting that message as you're walking through

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<v Speaker 1>the street, it was so crazy making because just when

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of get calm and quiet the noise in

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<v Speaker 1>my head, some stranger would walk up to me and say, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you look so much bigger on TV, and my heart

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<v Speaker 1>would just sink.

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<v Speaker 3>And no, they said it nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what they always said, at least this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I heard. You look so much thinner in person,

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<v Speaker 2>or you look so much prettier in person, or you

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<v Speaker 2>look so much you know, I'm like, thank you, you're

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<v Speaker 2>one person.

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<v Speaker 3>Those millions of people that are.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeing me are like up right really spread the word

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<v Speaker 1>either way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's either word or bit of a backhanded compliment, right,

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<v Speaker 4>like you can't sort of shake that. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 4>remember like feeling when I got on like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>was just like kind of a regular shape, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't really conscious of, you know, being super thinner or

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<v Speaker 4>super fit whatever, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Being around other women who.

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<v Speaker 4>I really was like, oh my god, Josie Beuse that

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<v Speaker 4>is the most beautiful and so she's a model both

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<v Speaker 4>then and she's got legs for days, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, I am not shaped like that at all,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can I just never can be, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>So just deciding that all right, I'm just gonna have

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<v Speaker 4>to find a way to be okay with the shape

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<v Speaker 4>of my body that has curves on the side, even

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<v Speaker 4>though I'm a small person, like I still have like

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<v Speaker 4>all those things that you nitpick about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I felt like that television show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my clothes were all baggy and stuff, like she

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<v Speaker 2>would have these drawstring pants.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I started, I think I was a size

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<v Speaker 3>six four or six. But this is don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the air they introduced, like zero, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>does that even mean? Zero? Like negative small, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>extra extra small, that kind of thing. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>the air of skinny, and I just remember going, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't apparently I can't be a six anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to be a four.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember that kind of like the numbers that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are talking about Courtney in my mind, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know those numbers like are they're they're different for every

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<v Speaker 4>brand and whatever, Like just you know, to say you're

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<v Speaker 4>a zero it means something.

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<v Speaker 3>Every brand is different anyway. Like it's just, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just so much. How do you guys feel about it now?

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<v Speaker 3>Like how do you relate to it? Deal with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Think about it now?

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<v Speaker 2>You've we've mentioned before Courtney, and not as tough on yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Or oh my god, by the grace of God, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that anymore. It was so painful. I remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so for me when I finally decided to

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<v Speaker 1>leave Melrose Place and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, I finally get to relax and just like

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<v Speaker 1>be in my body.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I was on ale Mcfeel.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is even more oh my god heart. And what

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<v Speaker 1>really like shifted my thinking and made me really start

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<v Speaker 1>to get help around it was I was featured an

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<v Speaker 1>article about thin actresses and how they were impacting young

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<v Speaker 1>women and impacting their body image. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>because I was beating myself up. And then when I

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<v Speaker 1>had the reality of oh my god, I thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was like a private battle. When I realized it was

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<v Speaker 1>impacting young women, that's why I thought, okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to get this straightened out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, you think it's private, you think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>you and you're the person wrong. You can't stay a

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<v Speaker 2>size to you, and now it's.

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<v Speaker 3>All in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you realize you know you because you're on

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<v Speaker 2>TV or you impress, you make an impression on women

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<v Speaker 2>watching you, young actresses, young people watching you, but also

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<v Speaker 2>all of us in our own heads. There wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, meetings or support a lot. Yet we all

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<v Speaker 2>feel so alone in that battle and not anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, it was exactly. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a private battle and it wasn't. And it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the interesting things about eating disorders is the

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<v Speaker 1>first the most important indicator of eating disorder is the

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<v Speaker 1>first diet. So it's that first time when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to starve yourself. And what basically I did, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is but I stopped dieting. I started listening to my

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<v Speaker 1>body and it was so scary at first. I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>compulsive exercise because the thing about eating disorders that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think people talk about enough is that they morph. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I had a drinking problem, it was easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a drinking problem. It was obviously. I stopped

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<v Speaker 1>drinking and haven't had a drink in almost thirty four years.

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<v Speaker 1>That was easy. But when with eating disorders, it morphed.

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<v Speaker 1>So first it was starving and then I go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's then it was over exercising. Then it was messing

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<v Speaker 1>with every new diet like so many of these like

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<v Speaker 1>healthy diets that people do. I look at it and go,

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<v Speaker 1>that's disordered eating. Like if anybody cuts out an entire

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<v Speaker 1>food group, that's unsustainable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I feel like, ultimately, because I've done all that,

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<v Speaker 2>diet's anorexic, I stopped eating. I had hair falling out.

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<v Speaker 2>This is before Melrose. This is ten years before Melrose.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the hair falling out, losing the period, having

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<v Speaker 2>no energy, all of that. But I feel that at

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<v Speaker 2>the core of it is the sense of self your

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<v Speaker 2>self love. You really, you're just comfortable beating yourself up,

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<v Speaker 2>starving yourself, depriving yourself. And two books that I read

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<v Speaker 2>that I really loved was Janine raw I loved Food

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<v Speaker 2>Is Love. That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>She's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I also read The Only Diet There Is

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<v Speaker 2>and I gave it to my girlfriend and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to read it because the word diet's

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<v Speaker 2>in it and the word die is in diet.

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<v Speaker 3>But I said, you've got to read it. It was

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<v Speaker 3>about love and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>The first time I started to see every time, what

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<v Speaker 2>is my thought process about deprivation, about not eating?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I saying to myself?

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<v Speaker 2>It's gets you more in touch with your negative self

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<v Speaker 2>talk as opposed to your self love. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a stronger sense of self love and habits that

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<v Speaker 2>support that, it doesn't mean you're going to gain weight.

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<v Speaker 3>It means you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna probably make choices that make you feel good. But

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<v Speaker 2>you love yourself as opposed to being that size too

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<v Speaker 2>and being scared and not liking yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the starving leads to the binging, leads to the

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<v Speaker 1>it's the whole process.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's learning.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that self life of learning when you're hungry

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<v Speaker 1>and feeding yourself until you're satisfied. It's that cycle of

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<v Speaker 1>if you're starving and limiting and restricting, there's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a price to pay, even if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you go through your life starving. Right, Like, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>hard to understand when you're in that because you think, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>my body needs to look this way for me to

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. When you start saying I want to feel good,

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<v Speaker 1>When you start saying this food feels good, this food

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<v Speaker 1>feeds me, then suddenly the unhealthy food isn't as appealing,

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<v Speaker 1>not because it's bad and you're wrong to eat it,

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<v Speaker 1>but because when you're coming from a place of self love,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to go what feels good to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that you don't have treats.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you really should have treats sometimes, Like it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>like Janine Roth says, which I love. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want a brownie because you're having a bad day, have

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<v Speaker 1>a brownie, but sit down at the table and enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go put down out of shame and then eat

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<v Speaker 1>the pan of brownies because you didn't taste the first brownie,

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<v Speaker 1>Like say, I'm going to consciously have this treat because

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<v Speaker 1>i had a hard day. Okay, that's fine. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>also when you abandon yourself and leave your body so

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't even get to enjoy it. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that you talked about her.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You also learn out of love as.

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<v Speaker 2>Your needs and we used to when I was young,

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<v Speaker 2>a young actress coming up in this business. And again

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<v Speaker 2>i'd been working what for ten or eleven years before Melrose.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in everybody's living room, so the pressure is really there.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know how to get needs met because you're insecure.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're afraid of talking to the boss, as you're

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<v Speaker 2>afraid of talking to the boyfriend. You're not sure of

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<v Speaker 2>what you need.

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<v Speaker 3>And in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Business, you know, because you really need to be a

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<v Speaker 2>business person and.

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<v Speaker 3>As an actress, and we're not taught that.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you employ, when those needs are repressed, I

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<v Speaker 2>would go to the food or the self control to

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<v Speaker 2>manage those needs. And they cannot be met through eating.

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<v Speaker 3>A bag of chips.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you have to be met taking the chance to

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<v Speaker 2>voice your request, to voice your opinion, your feelings. And

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<v Speaker 2>once those needs are met and you're doing it appropriately,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the courage to do that out of self love,

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<v Speaker 2>then you don't crave it that much because you're not

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<v Speaker 2>imploding all those feelings.

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<v Speaker 4>And these are all like pieces of wisdom that have

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<v Speaker 4>come in time to like you guys are talking about

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<v Speaker 4>all the things you've learned over the years, but like

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<v Speaker 4>we're you know, we're also on this podcast, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>back in time to who what our mindset was in

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<v Speaker 4>our twenties, and it's just so much harder, I think

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<v Speaker 4>when you're a young girl to have this sort of

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<v Speaker 4>of course, you know, recognition of what's healthy, what's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the great thing about getting older, guys, is experience

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<v Speaker 2>and confidence, and I think taking the edge off things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like wisdom, you know, think of this and that,

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<v Speaker 2>or get afraid of this and that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the edge has taken off for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no Like, if you look at the show

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at I was, you know, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at say, even if I had been to say

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, sweety, you're not the size of your body,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been like, how do you know? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure it's true. And those voices were so loud

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<v Speaker 1>and they were so overwhelming, and I couldn't say. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being on Alan McBeal and Lucy Lou who's super

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous and super healthy about everybody, came back from doing

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's Danels. She's like, oh my god, I'm too skinny.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, excuse me, is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that a thing?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How healthy that was that? She was like, oh, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm too thin.

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<v Speaker 1>And I literally I remember I still remember it right.

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<v Speaker 4>That was like twenty nine pactful to hear that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, wow, and now I recognize that, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stru someone who when I'm stressed, I don't eat.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's good anymore. I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>looks good. I don't buy clothes. I go, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I check in and then do you check in with yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>What am I feeling? What's my stress?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a victory anymore, but that's I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy now than thin, and that that shifts everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't have enough of his self to even

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<v Speaker 1>know that. As to your point, I didn't have enough

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<v Speaker 1>self love to even know that because I thought, but

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<v Speaker 1>what if I am the size of my body? What

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<v Speaker 1>if that is the most important thing about me? Now

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<v Speaker 1>I know it absolutely is not.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to grow up and mature and become more

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<v Speaker 1>of a whole person to even understand that. We're so young.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's so heartbreaking about these young women who are

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<v Speaker 1>suffering so great.

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<v Speaker 3>Kristin Davis, we are with you. We hear you, girl, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we love you.

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<v Speaker 1>We wish you'd talk to us.

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<v Speaker 4>We all were stressing. We had this wonderful conversation. But

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<v Speaker 4>we would love to also have Kristin on our.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast something O. Yes, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Other Memories Melrose Memories.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for tuning into the Melrose Minute. Be sure to

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<v Speaker 4>tune into Heather locklier Part one. It is up right

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<v Speaker 4>now and Part two will be dropping soon, so you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be sure to catch part One Before You.

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<v Speaker 2>Part two drops more adventures and memories with Heather Locklear.

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<v Speaker 2>So fun, I think she should be called Heather no

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<v Speaker 2>Filter Locklier