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Speaker 3: state of Texas. You'll be interested to hear the takes

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Speaker 3: on that. But right now, before we get to it,

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Speaker 3: and talking about Caleb Williams and.

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Speaker 6: Going into Chicago. Yeah, I ask my guys, how y'all doing, man,

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Speaker 6: how y'all feeling today?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 6: Man, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: How yall?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 7: You know we were good. You know, we got cleared.

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Speaker 7: We don't have guys, but we still got the palm. N.

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Speaker 7: It isn't great today, but that's it can't be great

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Speaker 7: every day. Now, stop complaining in southern calm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, raining hill, a little sleet, little snow like the

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Speaker 4: past two or three days. So you know it's so

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Speaker 4: foggy out man. You can't even see across the street.

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to hear about you guys talking

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Speaker 4: about the weather. I had to wake up at six

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Speaker 7: Who practices on a Saturday team?

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Speaker 5: You know what?

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Speaker 4: Nonetheless, man, I'm here and uh, you know, a little happy,

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Speaker 4: a little bit of sweet little man is off to

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Speaker 6: All right. You know, man went on, mad Man went

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Speaker 6: on what days ago?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gone, so to usher usher him out the door, man,

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Speaker 4: and so uh that day you have it.

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Speaker 5: It is, it's.

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Speaker 6: Kind of feeling, man.

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Speaker 7: It's like like, dang, man, my baby's getting up out

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Speaker 7: of here. Like I like it, but I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: And you've already gone through it two times over tej Yeah, man,

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Speaker 6: Had her graduate. You had to graduate.

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Speaker 7: Well, one graduated last week and then my other baby

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, what she has one of the dopest names

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you came up with it, but

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Speaker 6: You know what, I mean, see that's all. You know

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Speaker 3: A name that well is ringing bells and continuing the

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Speaker 3: We had this interesting conversation on two Pros and a

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but they are on the fringe of

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Speaker 6: Why wait for two?

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Speaker 5: One?

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Speaker 3: They almost get it looks like they've almost gotten it.

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Speaker 8: Do you remember that when this team was four and

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Speaker 8: to go to five and two. Yes, and instead they've

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Speaker 6: But that was fresh off of Bye. I digress.

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Speaker 8: You made a statement saying in one year's time, they're

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Speaker 8: gonna wreck Killer Williams. Has this one year in Chicago

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Speaker 6: I will say this.

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Speaker 3: I think the world expected way more from Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: right there. Cut it off. In totality, you could cut there.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a different scenario. You look at Caleb

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Speaker 6: Cut it off. He's undersize, like you see him, come out?

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Speaker 5: Can this little dude?

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Speaker 3: You know the Carolina Panthers, they were going through some things.

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Speaker 3: I just think that the Chicago Bears, the market, the

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Speaker 5: Of the hype.

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Speaker 6: I think in totality, this is way worse.

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Speaker 3: We are witnessing a can't miss, a generational talent compared

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Speaker 3: to to Patrick Mahomes. Tesla go down like it's bad.

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Speaker 3: All right, well done, Okay, that's wow. We didn't need

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Speaker 3: the whole sound bite. But here's here's the point of

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Speaker 3: some people came out and we're saying that Caleb Williams

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Speaker 3: I don't necessarily believe that because I don't believe that

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Speaker 6: I didn't know you were ranking.

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Speaker 3: You were fourth fourth highest on the list plex, which

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Speaker 6: You know who wasn't you know? Who wasn't to be

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Speaker 6: Ron Day was not on that list, and he wanted

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Speaker 6: the Heisman. So I don't. I don't look at things.

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Speaker 3: Like what your your your accolades are and what you've

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Speaker 3: earned as ultimately being the sayal of if you're if

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Speaker 3: you're the best talent. But I will say this, Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams earn't the right to be looked at in a

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 3: I feel as though he went to the wrong situation

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Speaker 3: because this this Chicago Bears team, for one reason or another,

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Speaker 3: and I think that ultimately decays and ruins what you

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Speaker 6: Players on the field.

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Speaker 3: O Cho Sinko brought up the fact that he feels

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Speaker 3: like hiring a Ben Johnson uh To to the head

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Speaker 3: coaching position for of the Chicago Bears would give Caleb

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Speaker 3: Williams and this Chicagigo Bears team the best opportunity to

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Speaker 6: Could get on track to start winning.

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Speaker 3: Do you guys agree with that, or do you see

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Speaker 3: there being some other way that Caleb Williams can you know, possibly,

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Speaker 7: Man when the Bears got rid of iber Flus, I

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Speaker 7: he was the obvious candidate.

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Speaker 5: Obvious you won an offensive head coach.

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Speaker 7: The Chicago Bears have for as long as I can remember,

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Speaker 7: defensive head coach. When you draft a quarterback number one,

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Speaker 7: you draft Roma Doonza in the first round, you trade

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Speaker 7: for Keenan Allen. You need that quarterback to flourish, You

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Speaker 7: kind of freelanced. The head coach isn't calling every single

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Speaker 7: and so the development wasn't there. There's good doctors, there's

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Speaker 7: police officers, there's bad police officers. There's good football coaches.

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Speaker 7: There's also bad football coaches. And that's just what he

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Speaker 7: encountered in Chicago. And that's not you know, talking trash

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Speaker 7: about any of them. Everybody isn't a good coach. He

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Speaker 7: to put a high level offense together in the National

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Speaker 5: He is the by far and away obvious choice.

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Speaker 7: If you ask me all this, Pete Curroll wan to

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Speaker 7: coach will Pete, you ain't coming to Chicago, buddy, you

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Speaker 7: had your time. Like Ben Johnson is the obvious guy

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Speaker 7: because Caleb Williams needs to be developed. This is a

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Speaker 7: wasted year when you look at his development, but this

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Speaker 7: if you take it as a lesson to get better

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Speaker 7: and improve yourself. Ben Jonson is an obvious coach. Get

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Speaker 4: But it's crazy how you know a young man highly

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Speaker 4: and be like I told you so, he wasn't that good,

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Speaker 4: you know, from a door. But I'm gonna take y'all

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Speaker 4: back to nineteen ninety eight. Peyton Manning went to this league.

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Speaker 4: And I don't recall the scrutiny of Peyton Manning, of

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Speaker 4: Hey, you remember when we was playing, if your defense

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Speaker 7: Dan Johnson should want that. It's a head coaching job

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Speaker 7: with the consensus everybody thought Kaylor Woods is the best quarterback,

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Speaker 5: And so why not take a job with at you

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Speaker 7: Develop, Like, why wouldn't you like a no brainer?

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Speaker 6: TJ.

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Speaker 5: Is this a good thing?

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Speaker 7: he was kind of used to the grind of, you know,

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Speaker 7: being a OC in high school for a Son then

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Speaker 7: going to Jackson State being the head coach and things

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Speaker 7: of that nature. Also, he was a head coach slash OC.

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Speaker 5: In high school.

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Speaker 7: And so to me, the biggest key for Vic and

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Speaker 7: d Jack is very simple, who gonna be your assistant coaches?

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Speaker 5: You better make.

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Speaker 7: Sure you hire guys that one understand the game first

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Speaker 7: and foremost, and two can relate to the players. That's

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Speaker 7: very critical because I don't care how good of a

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Speaker 7: coach Vic or D Jack. Maybe if you don't have

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Speaker 7: assistant coaches, because those assistant coaches are going to be

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Speaker 7: spending more time with the players at their respective positions

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Speaker 7: than you are, and so you want to make sure

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Speaker 7: that first and foremost you have that in order. And

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Speaker 7: I believe that they will because they wouldn't take this

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Speaker 7: job without reaching out to some guys. Hey, I may

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Speaker 7: have this opportunity, would you be willing to come coach

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Speaker 7: with me?

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Speaker 5: Type thing?

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Speaker 7: I know Djack was out here in the LA area

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Speaker 7: coaching high school football and so, man, this is something

462
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Speaker 7: like when you get a chance to mentor young men,

463
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Speaker 7: it's really hard to say no to it because you

464
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Speaker 7: are already doing it indirectly in different ways anyway. And

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Speaker 7: so now to get a chance to be around them

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Speaker 7: on an every day, they have an opportunity to change

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Speaker 7: some of these young boys lives, man.

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Speaker 5: Just off of conversation.

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Speaker 7: For forget the athletic part of it, just off of

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Speaker 7: being a man, and because both of those guys have

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Speaker 7: made some missteps in life and talking them through their

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Speaker 7: experience and things that they've been through like that, right

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Speaker 7: there is a game changer. And it may just be

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Speaker 7: a few, however many it is they gonna change lives

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Speaker 7: and to me, that's more important than anything when you

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Speaker 7: come from a background like we come from to be

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Speaker 7: able to give words of encouragement and change some of

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Speaker 7: these young boys' lives man moving forward as they growing

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Speaker 7: the men. So that to me is what I'm more

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Speaker 7: excited to see. But the football part of it is

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Speaker 7: going to have to be who do you hire to

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Speaker 7: help you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot that goes into being a head coach,

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Speaker 3: and it's basically being a CEO of not only the athletics,

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Speaker 3: but kind of for the entire the entire institution. That's

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Speaker 3: I think with something that you were touching on plex Listen,

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Speaker 3: wish them the best of luck at what it is

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Speaker 3: that they're.

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Speaker 5: Going to do.

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Speaker 3: It to be interesting to follow what their progress is

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Speaker 3: and what they're able to do.

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Speaker 6: Let's get an.

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Speaker 3: Update from Dan Bayer and then we'll talk a little

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Speaker 3: bit of Minnesota Vikings. What you got there, Dan.

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Speaker 9: Hey fellas a couple of your former teammates in the

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Speaker 9: news is fifteen finalists for induction into the Pro Football

497
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Speaker 9: Hall of Fame have been revealed. Eli Manning, Antonio Kates,

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Speaker 9: Luke Keithley, Terrell Suggs, Marshall, Gyanda, Adam VINTERI just to

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Speaker 9: name a few, Steve Smith Senior as well as finalist

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Speaker 9: for the first time in his four years on the ballot.

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Speaker 9: I know TJ's got to be hyped that Willie Anderson

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Speaker 9: has also made it as a finalist again. We'll find

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Speaker 9: out that the NFL honors on who actually makes it

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Speaker 9: into the Class of twenty twenty five for the Pro

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Speaker 9: Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: Anybody, if that's your voter, let me be a voter. Hey,

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Speaker 5: you right correct.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate that, Dan, Appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Dan, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

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Speaker 9: Sorry, Nor was it all good? No, I just got

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Speaker 9: a couple of more Thank you. Dobbins up for the

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Speaker 9: Chargers to It's part of the tripleheader. James Connor is

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Speaker 9: gonna go for the Cardinals tonight. Chuba Hubbard season is

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Speaker 9: over at the Fenway Bowl, North Carolina right now, trailing

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Speaker 9: yukon twenty forty seven.

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Speaker 6: It's all us.

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Speaker 9: He's nearing halftime Nebraska and Boston College playing in the

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Speaker 9: Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium, scoreless after the first quarter,

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Speaker 9: and Carson Beck's heading to the NFL drafts.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, I appreciate it. Dan, All right,

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Speaker 3: before we get to this break and go into the

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Speaker 3: Lash segment of this hour, which we will be talking well,

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Speaker 3: what will be considered to be a hot topic, a

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Speaker 3: hot button topic, but this is up on game and nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: we always tackle the big conversations, even if maybe some

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Speaker 3: people may shy away from it. But we're un you know, unmoved, unfazed,

528
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Speaker 3: not scared to talk about big issue. So well, we'll

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Speaker 3: talk about that. We all have daughters, so this will

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Speaker 3: be an interesting conversation. But let's talk about Sam Darnold

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 6: Guys.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting position that Sam Donald and the Minnesota

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Speaker 3: Vikings are in right now. He is literally playing his

535
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Speaker 3: ass off and it's putting him in a position where

536
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Speaker 3: he can look for top dollar in Minnesota has to

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Speaker 3: make a decision on what it is that they're thinking

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Speaker 3: they may want to do as it applies to this situation.

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Speaker 3: In this scenario, now, I came up with three different things.

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Speaker 3: You know, you keep them and how much does that cost?

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Speaker 3: You trade them? And how much does that cost? Or

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Speaker 3: something else that you may have came up with. How

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Speaker 3: are you guys looking at this situation with Minnesota and

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald.

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Speaker 5: Very simple, var very very simple one.

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Speaker 7: I can't trade him unless I franchise him, and if

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Speaker 7: he signs it, then I may be stuck. That's number one.

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Speaker 7: Number two is man, this is a no brainer. Like,

549
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Speaker 7: stop over complicating.

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Speaker 5: This, man.

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Speaker 7: You see what Sam Donald is doing. You see how

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Speaker 7: Sam Donald is playing. Sam Donald is my quarterback next year.

553
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Speaker 7: I don't get a damn that I drafted JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: What you really feel.

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Speaker 7: Like, no question, the way that Sam Donald has played,

556
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Speaker 7: he is my quarterback moving forward. Thank you Sam for

557
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Speaker 7: reaching your potential. Uh do we keep do we do

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Speaker 7: we treat JJ McCarthy like the Green Bay Packers did

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Speaker 7: with Jordan Love and Aaron Rodgers. I don't know that's

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Speaker 7: a possibility. What kind of deal do you give Sam Donald?

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Speaker 7: Some people will say, oh, Sam needs to win a

562
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Speaker 7: playoff game. Sam Donald has played extremely well this season,

563
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Speaker 7: like one of the top ten quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 5: That's how well he's played all year.

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Speaker 7: Everybody fought Minnesota was going to finish last in the division.

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Speaker 7: They've lost two games too, and so I'm resigning Sam Donald.

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Speaker 7: I'm hoping it's not gonna cost me fifty million a year. Hopefully,

568
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Speaker 7: of about forty five to forty eight a year, So

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Speaker 7: you're okay with that, absolutely, I'm okay with Like we're

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Speaker 7: in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: They've lost two games.

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Speaker 7: Everybody talk about with the quarterback Kevin O'Connell, whether he's

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Speaker 7: a quarterback, whisper, whatever he doing, he's doing the hell

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Speaker 7: of a job. But you still got to get out

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Speaker 7: there and execute.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: Sam Donald's my quarterback. JJ McCarthy. I'm sorry. We drafted you.

578
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Speaker 7: We planned on you being a quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 7: You can be the quarterback of the distant future.

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Speaker 4: Just in the last segment, we were talking about coaching.

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Speaker 4: You know who are these guys assistant coach is going

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Speaker 4: to be? And for the life of me, I'm sitting

583
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Speaker 4: here want to say to myself, Sam Donald was in

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Speaker 4: San Francisco last season, he had Kyle Shanahan. Would you

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Speaker 4: agree that the offense in San Francisco is a better

586
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Speaker 4: offense than Minnesota? Not this year, but yes, I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 4: I believe schematically, So why wouldn't it happen for Sam

588
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Speaker 4: donnin and San Francisco like it is?

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Speaker 5: He didn't unity to be started.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something I had the opportunity to

591
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Speaker 4: play with this young man his rookie season and Kevin

592
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Speaker 4: O'Connell when he came to the New York Jets, And

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Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know this about Ko. He

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Speaker 4: didn't play, didn't play a lot.

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Speaker 5: But when you're.

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Speaker 4: Talking about x'es and o's and getting up and running

597
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Speaker 4: an offensive meeting Mark Sanchez was the starting quarterback of

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Speaker 4: our football team. And there would be days where Kevin O'Connell,

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Speaker 4: as the rookie, will be up on the white board

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Speaker 4: breaking down the defenses and putting the.

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Speaker 5: Offices up on the bed up on the board, and

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Speaker 5: he's the backup quarterback as a rookie, as a rookie.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So that right there.

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Speaker 4: Told me enough about this young man and his i Q.

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Speaker 4: And when it comes to playing quarterback and understanding defenses

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Speaker 4: and being able to run an offense and this and

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Speaker 4: that is the exact reason why Sam Donald is looking

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Speaker 4: the way that he's looking in this offense, It's because

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Speaker 4: of Kevin o'comm So, pain.

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Speaker 5: Man, what what are you going to do?

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Speaker 6: I mean, if he's that type of coach that.

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Speaker 5: I'm not breaking up, well, I'm not breaking up.

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Speaker 4: I'm not breaking up this marriage between Jordan Addison, uh,

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Speaker 4: justin Jefferson and Sam Donald right now, I'm not and

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Speaker 4: he should be able to do it with McCarthy, right,

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Speaker 4: But why would I hope I can do it with McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: But I know I can do it with Darth fair question.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit here and say to myself, you

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Speaker 4: know what, I know that we drafted J. J. McCarthy

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Speaker 4: last year. He's coming off of a c L. We

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Speaker 4: expect him to come in after missing a full NFL

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Speaker 4: rookie season and and try to duplicate what Sam Donald

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Speaker 4: has done this year. I don't think that the Minnesota

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Speaker 4: Vikings make that decision.

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Speaker 3: It makes sense, but we'll have to see how it

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Speaker 3: all plays out. That's a lot of m's that go

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Speaker 3: along with the belief of what you believe Sam Darnold

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Speaker 3: may do in.

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Speaker 5: The future, possible thing that could have happened to.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings well, which it's a great thing, right, So

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Speaker 6: we'll wait and see how it goes. That's t J.

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Speaker 3: Hushmanza, that's Plex Cooberts. I'm LeVar Arrington. We will take

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Speaker 3: a quick break. On the other side of this break,

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Speaker 3: you'll want to hear what we got to talk about Yes,

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Speaker 3: transgender wo that's a big one.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 3: On the other side of break, Texas is seemingly taking

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Speaker 3: action and you'll find out what that action is on

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Speaker 3: the other side of break.

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Speaker 6: This is up one Game. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: we get to the end of this hour. We talked earlier,

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Speaker 3: well I teased it. There is a lawsuit that's taking

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Speaker 3: place in Texas and it's basically the attorney Attorney General

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Speaker 3: Ken Paxton, who has sued the NCAA to block the

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Speaker 3: the State District Court in Lubbock and announced on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: and argues that NCAA violates the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices

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Speaker 3: at by promoting women's sports that may include a transgender athlete.

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Speaker 6: Now, we all have daughters, and.

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Speaker 5: We will, TJ.

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Speaker 3: You've already had daughters that have competed at the NCAAA level.

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Speaker 3: You will have one that competes at the NCAAA level.

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Speaker 3: Plex I have one that competes at the NCAAA level.

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Speaker 3: And in fact, what's facing this same situation where they

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Speaker 3: were going to play a team that had a transgender player.

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Speaker 3: Now here's my quick take on it. If you decide

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Speaker 3: that you identify with the opposite sex, I have no

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Speaker 3: problem with it. If you decide that if your family

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Speaker 3: is involved in it, you're not old enough where you're

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Speaker 3: legal and you can make the decision on your own.

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Speaker 6: Your family's in it, that's up.

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Speaker 5: To you, guys.

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Speaker 3: If you want to change your sex, that's up to you.

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Speaker 3: If you want to marry someone that is born the

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Speaker 3: same sex as you, and that's what you want to

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Speaker 3: do when you find love, I have absolutely no problem

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Speaker 3: when the decisions are made with everybody involved having a

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Speaker 3: decision and a choice in the matter. I think where

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Speaker 3: I draw the line and I feel a certain type

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Speaker 3: of way about it, and just not assuming that any

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Speaker 3: woman are a transgender that goes into that area of participation.

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Speaker 6: I don't assume that they're all going.

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Speaker 3: To be the the best athlete and the most physically

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Speaker 3: in client athlete that that changes and becomes transgender. But

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Speaker 3: I will say if they are all things given, if

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Speaker 3: you have the best of the best athletically that that

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Speaker 3: become transgender, I just don't. I just don't see how

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Speaker 3: it makes sense where the people that they're they're.

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Speaker 6: Competing against don't have a choice.

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Speaker 3: They should have the choice just like anybody else that

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Speaker 3: they would marry, that that would support them getting the

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Speaker 3: change of whatever it would be.

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Speaker 6: I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't agree with the idea that that these young

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Speaker 3: ladies have to compete against somebody that they don't have

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Speaker 3: the choice as to if I want to compete against

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Speaker 3: somebody that was born a male versus compete against all

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Speaker 3: females in the situation.

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Speaker 7: That's my two cents on it. Man, I'm gonna just

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Speaker 7: make minds black and white. It's very simple. I ain't

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Speaker 7: gonna go through all the dialogue you just went through. Okay,

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Speaker 7: it's like this, if you are born a man and

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Speaker 7: you are trying to compete against people that were born

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Speaker 7: a woman or born a girl, No, we're stronger. It's

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Speaker 7: an unfair advantage, Like we're bigger and we're stronger for

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Speaker 7: the most part. No, And then I get it. You

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Speaker 7: know you want to have surgery and you want to

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Speaker 7: be a transgender person. That's perfectly fine. I agree with

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Speaker 7: you on that. If that's something you want to do,

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Speaker 7: that's fine. But when you do that in that sense,

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Speaker 7: you cannot play sports against women when you were born

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Speaker 7: a man. I believe, I believe you have an unfair

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Speaker 7: advantage and it's not fair. It's not fair to the

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Speaker 7: girls that are played that don't have that advantage. And

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Speaker 7: so to me, I don't know what's the big deal

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Speaker 7: about it. I get it, it's you're discriminating. It gets

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Speaker 7: the transgender people, but I just believe they have an

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Speaker 7: unfair advantage.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's a hard No. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: not discrimination at all. I don't think. I believe what's

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Speaker 4: right is right and what's wrong is wrong. And for

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Speaker 4: those young women that don't have a choice. Those young

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Speaker 4: women are the ones that are suffering because they don't

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Speaker 4: have a choice. So now you put them in a situation,

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Speaker 4: those are the people that are affected by the most

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Speaker 4: from a mental standpoint and from an athletical standpoint, knowing

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Speaker 4: that the playing field of which they are playing in

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Speaker 4: is not fair and it's not fair to them. So

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Speaker 4: I'm not with it. I've never been with it, and

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Speaker 4: I never will be. And kudos. If those young women

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Speaker 4: had a choice, then the transgender would not be allowed

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Speaker 4: to compete with them. But they don't have a choice,

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Speaker 4: So kudos are those women who are fighting that battle

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Speaker 4: and and and being and and being forced to go

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Speaker 4: out and do what they love to do again and

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Speaker 4: having an unfair advantage. Those are the people, or the

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Speaker 4: young women that we should be celebrating.

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Speaker 3: It's a large topic and I'm sure it will continue

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Speaker 3: to continue on. There are a lot of different angles

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Speaker 3: to it. But you know what, like you said, you guys,

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Speaker 3: right is right and having a choice make sense. This

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Speaker 3: is up on game. This is Fox Sports Radio Hour

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Speaker 3: two coming at you next