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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to The K Factor Everything

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Speaker 1: k Pop hosted by Bomhan, where we peel back the

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Speaker 1: curtain on the behind the scenes of what's happening in

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Speaker 1: K pop today. As part of Mental Health May we

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Speaker 1: are currently tackling the intricacies of mental health and a

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Speaker 1: K pop industry. We have a therapist with us today

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Speaker 1: at my psychiatry and without further ado, let's get right

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Speaker 1: into part two of our mental health series. I had

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Speaker 1: like this huge crash out on the internet because like

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Speaker 1: I felt so justified in the things that I was doing.

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I worked hard to be here,

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Speaker 1: Like I like every day, I worked harder.

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Speaker 2: Than everybody around me to like build this and build this.

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Speaker 2: Who are you to come and tell me what I

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Speaker 2: am now? And when people was like like like, admittedly,

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Speaker 2: I didn't make it like a mistake and I made

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Speaker 2: like a joke that I shouldn't have and then but

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Speaker 2: then like, oh, sorry for.

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Speaker 3: Being hum and right, okay, yeah, sorry, sorry being human.

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Speaker 3: You know oil it goes through your bloodstream, not blood, right.

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Speaker 2: I apologize, And I was like okay, okay, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to learn from this. And then I was eager to learn.

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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, oh wow, okay, well that was good. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I still wanted to take accountability for you know. But

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Speaker 2: then like I started getting death threats and like like

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Speaker 2: like just crazy slurs.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes humans can be so ridiculous. I'm telling you, it's

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Speaker 3: it's so sad, and I'm just glad that you didn't

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Speaker 3: allow it to affect you that much because we want

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Speaker 3: to be here today, right I would say that because

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Speaker 3: we're here today, we know chill, having this good stuff,

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Speaker 3: so you have some striking you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But I'm definitely handling it different from from when I

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Speaker 2: did the first time, and I'm proud of myself for that. However,

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Speaker 2: I had it outburst and I started defending myself like

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Speaker 2: and it's like I'm like, I'm like, okay, what's different

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Speaker 2: from last time is that I have more self worth,

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Speaker 2: so I have to show this. So I was like

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, you can't call me. And then

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Speaker 2: it's like oh like this and I'm like the stop,

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Speaker 2: like like who are you to tell me this? Like

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Speaker 2: I went through all these things this year, like like

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Speaker 2: like like like I left my company and like I

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Speaker 2: had to deal with all this like expandonment, like an enstranglement.

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Speaker 2: And then like like people were stealing from me, and

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Speaker 2: I was moving to places and I wasn't sure when

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Speaker 2: I was living at that moment, like all these there

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Speaker 2: was all these things go going on, like I even

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Speaker 2: had like a stalker situation, or like I want to

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Speaker 2: find peace and all these things.

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Speaker 4: I forgave everything. I forgave so much that year.

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Speaker 2: Right and and then this was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: like you and I had like this big crash out

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Speaker 3: And uh, again from being human because you could hold

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Speaker 3: but so much your your glass can get so much

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Speaker 3: full and without you outpouring. It's only a human response.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it may be a little bit more intent

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Speaker 3: to someone else that may respond to something else. But

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Speaker 3: I'm sure if someone was in your shoes, you cannot

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Speaker 3: tell me about anything until you're walking and living in

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Speaker 3: my shoes, until you're in my DNA. Then maybe I'll

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Speaker 3: give you some sort of a leeway to maybe have

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Speaker 3: a comment. And again it's easy said than done to say, oh,

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Speaker 3: it's just words just worse. Sometimes words you know, can

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Speaker 3: really you know, dig deep, you know, and I always

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Speaker 3: say they just words. I always analyze the messenger before

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Speaker 3: you anilize the message. It's when you do actions that

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Speaker 3: kind of really bothered me. When you say the stork

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Speaker 3: situation or things like that. People who physically do certain

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Speaker 3: things that can make you feel off. But I always

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Speaker 3: say this that when you're trying yourself to kind of

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Speaker 3: circle back and back back, I always say, it's just worse.

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Speaker 3: But some people can't always take it that way because

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Speaker 3: you're so passionate about what you do and it's just

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Speaker 3: all in you. So I totally get it. But again,

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Speaker 3: your outbursts, it could be from so many different things.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't have slept that night. It could have been

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Speaker 3: something you could move meds. You could have been a

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Speaker 3: situation where you were just that stressed out. You don't

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Speaker 3: know what could have experienced right before. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you saw there was a social media and when

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Speaker 3: this gentleman came on, I think he was an attorney

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Speaker 3: or something like that. It was part of the state

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Speaker 3: we got to continue with this whole entire Like wait

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Speaker 3: a critical condition. We're like, why are you here? His

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Speaker 3: response is very different. So, now if he came on

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Speaker 3: doing it quote unquote exactly what you did, what would

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Speaker 3: make his situation different than us because he had an

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Speaker 3: Everybody handles things differently. So you had enough and once

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Speaker 3: you have enough, how it comes across it doesn't make

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Speaker 3: a difference because you're defending yourself. But some people like,

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Speaker 3: oh he had a psychoticg breg Oh he had a crash,

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Speaker 3: he had this. No, I'm just tacking back because I'm

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Speaker 3: tired of you. That's it. That's just what it is.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But again, now you know for next time, to learn

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Speaker 3: from your mistakes. I try to learn from other people's mistakes.

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Speaker 3: But something like that, I always say, now my best.

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Speaker 3: When I see certain situations with other people, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to handle that difficult. You see how she

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Speaker 3: know if I come across something like that, just learn

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Speaker 3: from other people's mistakes, but you learn the best from

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Speaker 2: Okay, Then what do you think is to take away

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Speaker 2: that I should be having from that moment, because there's

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Speaker 2: a lot for me, there was a lot of consequence

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Speaker 2: and I'm personally not proud of the fact that there

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Speaker 2: Do you think I should have found a way to empty.

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Speaker 4: The glass before the glass broke?

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Speaker 2: Do you think there was a different way I could

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Speaker 2: have expressed my hurt in that moment?

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Speaker 4: Or like what do you think?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 3: It really depends on that comes with, you know, practicing mindfulness,

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Speaker 3: being able when place and certain. This is where some

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Speaker 3: stain therapy measures really make a difference. Some people go

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Speaker 3: through cognitive behavioral therapy, they go through talk therapy, whether

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Speaker 3: of taking steps back. You know, me, I was a firecracker.

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Speaker 3: You know, I know for a fact that I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to every situation has to be addressed. Now, it is

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Speaker 3: what it is. But I sometimes I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: be an extra. And I think about it, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: you know what if I do X y Z, it's

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Speaker 3: going to really, you know, put a whole like stigma

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Speaker 3: on me itself. So even like something with social media,

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Speaker 3: I'm very mindful about what I post, you know what

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Speaker 5: You just kid, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know, So I'm very mindful because people are so

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Speaker 3: unfortunately they live a facade, they live on social media.

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Speaker 3: They think social media is real life. Now I'm actually

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Speaker 3: but you can on f the situation right, It already happened.

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Speaker 3: So we got to also say to ourself. Number one

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Speaker 3: thing I always tell people is that the world cannot

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Speaker 3: do is take accountability. You took full accountability of your actions.

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Speaker 3: You know how many people my Max boyfriend sill. Don't

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Speaker 3: take accountability of being a for nonsense, you know, and

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Speaker 3: it's a grown man. So with taking accountability and actually

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Speaker 3: being sorry without repeated behavior makes sense. And now if

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Speaker 3: he's full of crap. If they want to judge you

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Speaker 3: It's gonna happen. You are who you are. This is

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Speaker 3: why you have what you have. You wouldn't be here

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Speaker 3: today without the critics. You wouldn't be here today and

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Speaker 3: the haters. They're promoting just when you got the followers.

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Speaker 3: They're the first one to log in first, you want

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Speaker 3: let them come, being the whole audience, being right in

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Speaker 3: first one, because you're not gonna win, yes, you, so

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Speaker 3: you're human. Failure is the number one thing to success.

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Speaker 3: say that to say because I've been in an unfortunate

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Speaker 3: I have the first person that's going to do this

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Speaker 3: and you're not the last. Can you just stop, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, you're right, Oh shit, I'm human.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm human. But again, accountability is number one.

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Speaker 3: A lot of times you have people in this world

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Speaker 3: as that will take no accountability and just don't know

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Speaker 3: how to say, you know what, I was wrong and

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Speaker 3: human and then being you know, apologetic about it. Now,

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Speaker 2: I kind of I wanted to dive into that situation

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Speaker 2: what happened in that moment and it wasn't just like

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Speaker 2: a like a sudden snap, you know. Yeah, And then

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Speaker 2: like I kind of brought up the situation like a

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Speaker 2: back to like that guy that that was like nineteen

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Speaker 2: years old and like a loan in Korea and like

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Speaker 2: facing all these things. And then I think I put

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Speaker 2: And then I think things started going out of control

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Speaker 2: because like I hadn't taken my medication.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a price. That's a classic. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people who don't take medications are not don't take if

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Speaker 3: where they stop it, it's not even your fault at

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Speaker 3: that point. It's the medication that's not balancing in the

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Speaker 3: Dating. You should date, You should.

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Speaker 4: Date your your your psychiatrists.

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Speaker 2: came with me to the therapy.

433
00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:03,960
Speaker 3: Oh talk about convenience.

434
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like, so how's your work life balance? And

435
00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, well great.

436
00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560
Speaker 2: And then like there was just a bunch of things

437
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,399
Speaker 2: that wasn't compatible to me, like I had to like

438
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 2: sign like a death contract.

439
00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:23,399
Speaker 4: They're like, you can't die. I'm like, oh okay.

440
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, totally understand. That makes a big difference,

441
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,080
Speaker 3: especially when I see some kids. You know, I do

442
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,320
Speaker 3: have some kids that are like sixteen seventeen. You know,

443
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,880
Speaker 3: the parents should be there, you know, technically, but I

444
00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 3: always ask the parent, can I talk to your son

445
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,719
Speaker 3: or daughter alone? Right?

446
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 5: You know?

447
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,879
Speaker 3: Is that okay? And I'm like okay, And it's a

448
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,080
Speaker 3: total different dialogue, totally different dialogue.

449
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,160
Speaker 4: You ever have someone like talk to you and you're like, yeah, okay, buddy.

450
00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh boy, We're not ever gonna go there. I'm like, oh,

451
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,719
Speaker 3: I'll be on my phone, like, okay, get to affective

452
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 3: disorder secondary too. Yeah oh yeah, oh.

453
00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Danny, red flags come up for me.

454
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,560
Speaker 3: Not at all? Oh really, not at all.

455
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 4: Oh nice, she's been here before.

456
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't know. Actually I was so nice.

457
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,600
Speaker 5: Cool, I'm gonna I followed you with.

458
00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,359
Speaker 4: Oh okay, cool, cool, thank you, Okay, I have a question.

459
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 2: So that moment of overwhelmed burnout into that incident where

460
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 2: I was like you know what.

461
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: That like that like you know what that, you know

462
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,679
Speaker 3: was like yeah, and your mom and you know what

463
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 3: I told you.

464
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 2: I've for the since that that whole incident happened in November,

465
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 2: and it's been about yeah, like the most recent November,

466
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 2: and it's been six months, and I still have not

467
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 2: found a way to deal with it in a different

468
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: way besides shutting off like this, the.

469
00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,400
Speaker 4: Hate wave has been going on for six months now.

470
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 2: And when I open my social media, like, for example,

471
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: if I'm having like a long day and I'm like, okay,

472
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go like decompress. I turned on social media.

473
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 2: I'm scrolling, I feel like like I see like a

474
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 2: hate video that's on my for you page, you know,

475
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: and then I start like not being able to breathe.

476
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 2: I start like feeling like constructions in my chest, Like

477
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 2: I literally feel my vision going like like narrow, and

478
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,320
Speaker 2: then when people talk to me, I can't hear it,

479
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 2: and then I just can't move. Yeah, and then like

480
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: like sometimes I'll like cry and stuff right human Yeah,

481
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: but then like it's just it's mostly the biggest response

482
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 2: to me is shut out. And then you know what,

483
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,440
Speaker 2: if I'm going to open that door, then I'm gonna

484
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 2: crash out.

485
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 4: So to shut out or crash.

486
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 3: Outta that you have for yourself. At this point, you've

487
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 3: given yourself I gotcha.

488
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been six months of me shutting out

489
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: because I'm so afraid to crash out again.

490
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 3: Well that's also accountability too, because you know what the

491
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: possibility is of you crashing out or really having an

492
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: outburst what it led to before. So the fact that

493
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: you actually shut is also considered to be some sort

494
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: of a therapeutic response, even though in your eyes you're like,

495
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 3: you know what, it's not really you should be able

496
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: to face it and deal with it. However, this is

497
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 3: where dedicated therapy becomes a priority, you know, meaning that

498
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 3: you're meeting and seeing someone at least once a week

499
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,719
Speaker 3: and just having a safe space just you and that

500
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: person being able to have a good dialogue of transparency

501
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: and just to kind of get down to it because

502
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: a lot of times you're crashing out or you're not

503
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 3: being able to handle certain situations. Can be from something

504
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 3: that you dealt with in trauma that you as a

505
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: child and you haven't really been able to handle it

506
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: from years ago and now you actually are in it

507
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 3: and you're like you still still I still can't handle it. No,

508
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna handle it them Before you didn't realize.

509
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 3: But now that you're an adult, and now that you're

510
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 3: in a position that you are, it's more amplified. So

511
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: now it's noticeable. So now what happens is when now

512
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,239
Speaker 3: becomes when it comes noticeable. Sometimes you always say, oh,

513
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: I wish I had a lifeline. The lifeline would be, obviously,

514
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 3: you know, like a therapist or something of that sort,

515
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: a dedicated therapist, a therapist that knows what he or

516
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 3: she is doing. I prefer to have a lot of psychotherapy,

517
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: not that you're psychotic. Psychotherapy means that you're almost getting

518
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: into that inner part of your mind that's allowing you

519
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 3: to reverse negative thinking without an outburst. You know a

520
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: lot of times people like, well, just count to ten

521
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: and you'll take ten deep persts. I might not already

522
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: had the gaff.

523
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go like.

524
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: Ten seconds later, like like you know, But but practicing differ.

525
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 4: I break in between my crash out, that's all it was.

526
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: Definitely, it becomes a challenge. So I always tell people

527
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 3: you don't always have to be on medications, you know,

528
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: because it is helpful, but sometimes being on it as

529
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: a buffer allows you to not maybe shut as much

530
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: or not allowed to have outbursts as much because what's

531
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: happening is the brain's just going paywire.

532
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,120
Speaker 4: So you're suggesting like like like a.

533
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 2: Steady and consistent release of the emotions that's building up.

534
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, correct?

535
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: And I also also feel that when you have someone

536
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 3: to talk to because you are that person, you know,

537
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: what happens is that I'm that person. Everybody goes to you.

538
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: Everybody you know respects you. Everybody you know, it's it's

539
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: your show, it's it's you. You know, you are the

540
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: go to person. Who do you have to go to this?

541
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: I always tell people check on you're happy and healthy friends,

542
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 3: that's at the top, because they need someone to talk

543
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: to as as well. I'm like, just because you know

544
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,880
Speaker 3: I handle it well, just because you know I show

545
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: that I'm tough, doesn't mean that I don't need like

546
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: a hug, like you know what I mean, a cocktail.

547
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 3: Sometimes people don't recognize because we're so used to being

548
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: able to sugarcoat and be able to just handle things.

549
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: But therapy is something I always called the non pharmacological

550
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: approach to help mental health because it's easy to take

551
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: a tablet and deal with the side effects, deal what

552
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: have you. But once you have a dedicated person that's good,

553
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: that knows you, that understands your story, that is completely

554
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 3: non biased, not everything under the sun that you can

555
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: think of, and they can actually give you a true answer.

556
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: Because if I go and ask my friend, listen, you

557
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: know me, my soul such and such, and I'm gonna go,

558
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 3: and she's like, let's go kill and let's go car

559
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: we taking.

560
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 5: You don't need that.

561
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: You have to talk me out of this, like.

562
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: Theist.

563
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: So I can't ask your friend. But if I ask

564
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 3: my therapist, because I've seen a lot of different therapists,

565
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: especially for that's why I say, it's dating a few

566
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: and I'm a professional, so and I'm like, I'll talk

567
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 3: to this girl likes what she's talking to me. Nonsense,

568
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So, of course we are

569
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 3: the worst patients, Okay, the worst patients when you're in

570
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: the field. So having said that, when I found a

571
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: good therapist that was able to talk to me about

572
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 3: grief and able to realize allow me to not think

573
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: that it's not my fault, it took that therapist, you know,

574
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: because it took dedicated therapy once a week targeting just you.

575
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 3: There's nobody else. It's not the show, it's not anything.

576
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 3: It's just you and your therapist focusing on you. You

577
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 3: are the priority. And being able because once you have

578
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: you play that good positive feedback, and being able to

579
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 3: know how to handle certain things without taking the xanax

580
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: or taking a clump and yeah, that's easy, there's no problem.

581
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: But people take all time and they fly. It's okay.

582
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 3: But again, being able to handle that fear or that anxiety,

583
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 3: or that urge or that heaviness without an outburst, good

584
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 3: dedicated therapy is really, really really option. I mean the

585
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: first option I tell people. And then if you have

586
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: to obviously also have meds on board as well. It's

587
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: also good. I think it's a good synergistic effect because

588
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: a lot of times, you know, after a while, it

589
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: gets burned out, so you're new transmitting in your brain.

590
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 3: It's kind of like working out. Your muscles get burned

591
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: after a while, you know, it gets fatigued. Same thing

592
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: with the brain. So sometimes no matter how much suck

593
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: to a therapist, you need a chemical boost as well.

594
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: So sometimes just being on medication until you get to

595
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 3: a good point and then just drop the medication to

596
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: be with therapy is a good you know, combination as well.

597
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: I think that was my problem. I dropped both completely.

598
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, I was like, okay, yeah, medic METS are

599
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: going to go.

600
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm good on my own.

601
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: Because sometimes the medication just again provides a buffer. And

602
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: some people are not compliant with METS because of side

603
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 3: effects and everything else like that, and some people say, well,

604
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: you know what, I don't want to be placed on

605
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: METS because I want people look at me like, I'm

606
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: on meds, but you took the over the count of

607
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: hydroxy cut. That's not FTY approved, Like I mean, come on, all.

608
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 5: These meds, you know what I'm like.

609
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 3: You know, you wonder why you know your heart rates

610
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: in the one nineties, you know what I mean? So

611
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 3: come on, So, I you know, I wish people would

612
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 3: just talk to me first.

613
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: I think there's also like a lot of like a

614
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 2: lot of pushback of therapy is like also the cost

615
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: of it, right, but like in my head too against that,

616
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: it's like it costes you more to not have it,

617
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: Like for me directly, like I've lost jobs, I've lost

618
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: like like like sponsorships, I've lost like shows and all

619
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: these stuff because of that one little outburst, not little outburst.

620
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 4: Little yeah, yeah, a little bit.

621
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, okay, so there's consequence to this,

622
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's like the money that I'm kind of shaving

623
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 2: off by not going to therapy, it's costing me more

624
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: and just could be that that in like a regular

625
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: life for like a regular person too, Like you could

626
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: crash out on your boss boom, you lost your job,

627
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: you crash out on your family members, and it's like

628
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: now you don't have a supports of stum.

629
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 4: It's like it's not like what you really want, you know.

630
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: So obviously never get a circuit chance to make your

631
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: first impression. So unfortunately that was your your first outbreaking

632
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 3: because you are who you were, and a lot of

633
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 3: the thing comes with being who you are. Unfortunately, you know,

634
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: they're gonna drag certain things and people just dre like

635
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: why are they amplifying It's like, as much as this

636
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: whole P. Diddy case is going, it's going, it's going,

637
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: it's going. I'm like, why are we not talking about

638
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: the sex trafficking? We're talking about the stuff that he

639
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: did with Cassie what he had.

640
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: Her to do.

641
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: And I understand that I'm a woman, I get it.

642
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 3: That's disgusting. I totally understand. Okay, who am I to judge?

643
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: But isn't he in jail on a trial for like,

644
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: you know, the sex trafficking. We have not talked about

645
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: the sex trafficking just yet. We're talking about all the

646
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: stuff that he made Cassie do and what he meet

647
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 3: other people do. Let's focus on the situation, prime example.

648
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 3: You know they want to focus on everything else that

649
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, but you know your situation. What I'm saying

650
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: is that when you're in a position like Diddy, you know,

651
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean not like didn he.

652
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Sorry with me? All right? Okay, that you're in.

653
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 3: You know, you tend to have things amplified more than

654
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: what it is, and it just it just makes it

655
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: so hard for you. But you're not to let them

656
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: win because you're intervening. You have to intervene, whether it

657
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: be medications or therapy, even just walks around the block

658
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 3: sometimes you know a couple of col if you find

659
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: something that really makes you feel at zen, and it's

660
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: kind of hard to be because you can't seay on

661
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: go mode, right, So it's unfortunate, but there's ways that

662
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: we can kind of do certain things to allow you

663
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: or even if you had a friend that you can

664
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: confide in. Although I tell people to do that, I

665
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: tell them not to do that as often. If you

666
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: get a dedicated therapist, even make some time out. Some

667
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: therapists even to talk about you on the phone. Sometimes

668
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: you have easily accessible therapy, they're like, okay, just give

669
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: me as out. Sometimes you need that lifeline, you know,

670
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: So it's definitely there. I think I think by dropping

671
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: both was heavy, you know what I mean, not that

672
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: you you need both. I would say if you need it,

673
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: yes you need it, but it's something just to help

674
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: preserve who you are, so you don't allow the the

675
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: negativity on the outside to take over. Because once they

676
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: win their their front role, they're ready. They're ready, they're ready.

677
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: And that's why when you world doesn't have to know

678
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 3: you're intervene. If you want intervene and you want to drive,

679
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: you do things on your terms. You know, mean it

680
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be out unfortunately in public, but they

681
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: want to just drag it. But unfortunately with something like that,

682
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: and you know, you felt the difference of the medication.

683
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, you felt difference without being therapist. He's like, damn,

684
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: maybe I need one another. You don't have to take

685
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: mess I would say non pharmological approach first. The pharmacological

686
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 3: approach is always beneficial. It's long be intervening.

687
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to explore another side of it, okay, Right,

688
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: as someone who's worried, not whether like you're like a

689
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: fan of someone who you're worried about, or you're a

690
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: family member of someone you're worried about, and like, for example,

691
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: my family is the biggest crash outs I've ever seen

692
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: in my life. Right, And I recently had a conversation

693
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: with my sister and she's like, oh, I'm about I'm

694
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: better run this be worded through a wall, you know.

695
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: And then I'm like, I kind of don't know how

696
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: to help. Like I'm not gonna be like, yeah, you

697
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: should do it right. It's like like how what what

698
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: what do you suggest should like go on in the

699
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: head of someone who's kind of witnessing someone go through this.

700
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: How can you extend like sympathy or like how can

701
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: you like like which is what is the what is

702
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: the steps for someone who sees.

703
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: Us sympathy is is kind of hard you can empathize

704
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: because you're not having the same type experience, you know

705
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: what I mean, because that's your sibling, you know, it

706
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: definitely is your sister. You know. I always try to,

707
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, always analyze the entire problem and say to yourself,

708
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: what actually started this, what was the initial trigger? Because

709
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: something always makes something. It's like a domino effect. You know,

710
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: someone someone comes in angry at work and they're like, well,

711
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: they had a good day, you know, work, they had

712
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 3: a good day. You know, at school, they're still battling

713
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: something that happened from before. I always try to figure

714
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: out if there's something that could have happened some time

715
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 3: ago they didn't have a conversation about, or they're uncomfortable

716
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: having a conversation about, or they embarrassed to have a

717
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: conversation about. You know, I have that a lot of time.

718
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: But unfortunately with some patients that you know, have to

719
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: come out the closet, you know, so you know, if

720
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: you happen to be you know, gay, and you know

721
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: you're only like guys, okay, it's okay, I don't care.

722
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: Your heart is still pure to me, I don't care

723
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: what you do, Like, it does make a difference to me,

724
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: but you don't know what's kind of harboring in them

725
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: coming out because they can't come out. So now it's

726
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: giving off other different features and different types of personalities

727
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: because they balance something you have no clue about. So

728
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: sometimes getting to the root of the problem, it's not

729
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: gonna happen one night, you know. I mean, that's why

730
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: therapy is there. And you're like, oh, so that's why

731
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 3: you've been that way. So that's why you've been throwing

732
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 3: stuff and hitting people and doing stuff because you had

733
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: a situation that you can't even express or no one

734
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: even bothered to ask what's going on. So it's your sister,

735
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: you have to kind of freaking private, And if you're

736
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 3: my brother, I'm like, tell them nothing because my brother's there.

737
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: If I want to, if I get into some trouble,

738
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: this guy will be coming.

739
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: So that's.

740
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: It just depends sometimes and maybe something she can't even

741
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: discuss with you because she may be it may be

742
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: private to her and she can be acting out.

743
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: In different being in the closet. Maybe you know, like

744
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: there's all these things that you don't know what they're

745
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: balancing and they're not comfortable sharing that moment.

746
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 4: They're just trying to show you the end product.

747
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: Right, you know, right, and you're like, wow, why she's

748
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: so angry, But she has my pole. She know, she's

749
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: just really because she can't come out about something, you

750
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I'm just saying in general. So

751
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: sometimes getting down to the root of the problem. Sometimes

752
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: there can be something they're not getting over, or it

753
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: could be a situation that they are just so upset

754
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: that they did. Some people harbor over beating themselves up

755
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, it happened already. You got to move forward.

756
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: But that moving forward is a challenge, you know. That's

757
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: why some people need therapy and then they allowed to.

758
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: Forgiveness is so big. Sometimes you forgive negative people and

759
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: it's not for them, it's for your peace of mind

760
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: because you're going to harbor on how negative they are

761
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: and how nasty they are, and how disrespectful they are.

762
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Just forgive them. God forgive you, because once I forgive myself,

763
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: how to forgive you. It gives you a peace of

764
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: mind because you just focusing on so much negativity. So

765
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: unfortunately with your sister, she it's like me I mean

766
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: I tell I mean, I tell you. You know, she

767
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: may tell like you if you had like a female best friend,

768
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 3: she may tell your female best friend, you know what

769
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: I mean. Whatever it may be. Sometimes girls, you know,

770
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: girl power, you know, sometimes a little matter with the girls,

771
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: you know, but it really just depends. Also even ask her,

772
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: you know, even when she has those out bursts. People

773
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: are just not not really comfortable going to therapy. Ask

774
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: them what's what's comfortable for her as an avenue to

775
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: just have a conversation with something, you know. Even I've

776
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: had people that would just would you would you talk

777
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: to a priest?

778
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 5: Like would you talk to a lot like? You know

779
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 5: what I mean?

780
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Even if you don't, even if you don't want a

781
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: figure that's a therapist, there's other people that are like

782
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: life coaches that are not a therapist, but they just

783
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: talk to like Ala, I do life coaching as well.

784
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: Some people like I don't want to go I know

785
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: what you do, but you don't talk to me like that.

786
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm kidding.

787
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk to their basketball coach.

788
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You can find someone that you

789
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: can find them. But depending on what it is and

790
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: depending on what's happening, and depending on they know. I

791
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: have a for example, I have a patient of mine.

792
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: She was happening to be raised Muslim. You know she's

793
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: she's from Afghanistan and she's a software engineer, graduate froman

794
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Mariu brilliant. Father's an orthodontist, her mother is an attorney.

795
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: Other brothers orthopedic surgeon, other brothers of aascal surgeon. So

796
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: we know what we're dealing with.

797
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: It.

798
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: They're coming from a family of nothing but education. And

799
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: she happens like girls mm hm, it's okay, Yeah, you're

800
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: probably better off somebody.

801
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 5: Somebody's making a challenge. I totally get it.

802
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: So she's only as she when I tell you she comes.

803
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: She's on all these mad's move stabilized. She's on this

804
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: because she has to completely hide her entire life, entire life.

805
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: And you know what she said to me two weeks ago,

806
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: she said, the only way I could really live my life, Wellanda,

807
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: is if my parents were dead, Because she can't come out.

808
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: If she even thinks about coming out, the shunning, the neglect,

809
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be and she said, I'm not ready

810
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: for that, so she'd rather not lived her life to

811
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 3: a piece of parents and you know it is what

812
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: it is, just a culture alone. And I had another

813
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: patient of similar you know, Muslim and everything else like that,

814
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: and she came out, she comes out doing a Ramadan.

815
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, well you could pick another day to

816
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: come out.

817
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

818
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: And she came and she figured they were praying and

819
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: they're holding around that time, maybe they'd be a little

820
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: bit more. When I tell you she's battling suicide idea,

821
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: I have to send her to the ED. Two weeks ago,

822
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: I said, you have to go because they when I

823
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: tell you, the cutoff was so quick and so because

824
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 3: she likes grows, just because she likes gross, but because

825
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: culture wise she happens to be Muslim and everything else.

826
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 3: Like they wasn't hearing it, I mean completely, because the

827
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: whole family just truanda complete. And then she decided to

828
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: leave medical school and go to be this pa. Oh,

829
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: my goodness, was even worse off. So you did all

830
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: of this during Ramadan and again she cannot.

831
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: Function over my dinner listen, and.

832
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: Then the girlfriend wind up leaving her. Uh huh oh,

833
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: she's institutionalized right now. For the past few weeks because

834
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: she's living her life for everybody else and she's not

835
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: able to handle it, you know, And that's understand because

836
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: she's human.

837
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 5: She's she's looking cute girl, like you know what I mean.

838
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 3: She's twenty six, twenty seven, she's very young. Again, when

839
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: it becomes so heavy, I would rather you get institutionalized

840
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: and get helpless. Guess what, you're institutionalized. You may not

841
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 3: be able to go and come as you want, but

842
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: you have a dedicated therapist. You're a dedicated psychiatrist. You're

843
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: going through impatient like intensive therapy to allow you to

844
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: get your mind because once your mind is settled, when

845
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: everybody else doesn't matter.

846
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a little bit for me too. But

847
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: like for example, with that, with that example, right, I

848
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: want to dive into the psyche of like the parents too.

849
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: Write like for example, like I know, like last episode

850
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: we talked about mental health and how it signiftized, stigmatized

851
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: in culture and all these things. Right, like I'll be

852
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: afraid of telling my mom that like, oh, I'm like depressed,

853
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to work, and then like

854
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: in her head, she's like I've been depressed for forty

855
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: five years and I still put food on the ta.

856
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: You better, you better shut your stupid like and get

857
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: you know, yep.

858
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: Get it.

859
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: So it's like like there's kind of like this the

860
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: psyche of the person who like, like are also affected

861
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: by seeing these responses, you know, and like I bring

862
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: it up because I want to understand the haters, like

863
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: the people who who see it and their effect. There's

864
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: so much that they have to drag it like like

865
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: what like can you just help me understand like what

866
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: these people are thinking, Like what kind of what kind

867
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: of thing are they projecting? What kind of thing are

868
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: they communicating when they when they're like when they see

869
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, and then they attack the person

870
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: who needs help.

871
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: Some people are just so immature and have no identity

872
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: of themselves that they're actually like, oh, I just did

873
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: that because he did it because I thought it was funny.

874
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: Do you understand what you did? Like some people. Sometimes

875
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: It's why I always say to myself, people do certain

876
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: things and they think I'm going to just do it

877
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 3: also because that was funny, I'm going to just piggyback,

878
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you're a dummy, Like you have your

879
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: own identity, you have your own person when I see

880
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: people like that who can't even know themselves, why did

881
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: I even think about giving you any part of my

882
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 3: brain cells to allow to fathom your thought process because

883
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: you have no thought on your own. That's one, you know.

884
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: But it's easier to send the done, you know what

885
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean. Again, we have a significant age gap, so

886
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, you know, so I'm sure you know. As

887
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: far as time frame wise, and I again, I never

888
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: have been have two thousand, I have maybe five followers,

889
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: maybe included my son.

890
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 5: I don't have that time.

891
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: I mean on my personal page saying.

892
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I can totally understand that.

893
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: But as far as that side, this is where again

894
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 3: the therapy comes in, because I always say you have

895
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: to analyze the messinger before you analyze the message. Somebody

896
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 3: came to who okay, for example, do nothing with themselves,

897
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: you know, living, you know, at the bottom of the

898
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: barre or whatever you want to call it, and they

899
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: tell you, well, you ain't shit, you ain't nothing. You'll

900
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: be like, what do you? You take advice from people

901
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: that are doing better than you or doing what you're doing?

902
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: You know, you you look up to people every time

903
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: you're in a circle at the table and make sure

904
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: everybody that the table's doing better than you, because you're

905
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: gonna learn from them. You don't want to be at

906
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: the table. You're always a leader, you know. I'm mind

907
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: being a leader. Don't get me wrong, because depending on

908
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: where you're setting, you're a leader. Here you're the guy,

909
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: it's your show. Of course you're going to be a leader.

910
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: But always make sure that whoever you sit with that

911
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: in the event that you can learn something from. So

912
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: those people that are on the outside, clearly they have

913
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: nothing better to do because they're not They want to

914
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 3: just be negative, and that's understandable because they have nothing

915
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: better to do. But the first people that's gonna want

916
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: to shoot you down on people, and a lot of

917
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: people piggyback off of nonsense, piggyback off of things that

918
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: they have no clue. I'm like, do you know the

919
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: reason why you just threw that softball to that boy

920
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: and hit him in his hand? Or because you did it? Okay,

921
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: you're a dummy, you know what I mean. So a

922
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: lot of times when you analyze people as dummies and

923
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 3: your brain, you tend to not allow yourself to even

924
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: engage certain things. But I always say this to say,

925
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: you take advice and you look up to people, so

926
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: you never got to get any flack of people that's

927
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: doing better than you, or when I say better, meaning

928
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: at a different level or doing things that you're doing.

929
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: You may get someone's helf. Why go buy that Mercede.

930
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm that friend You're like, oh, maybe I want this

931
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: Toyota Corolla and know not conld get, but I get

932
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: to get the Mercedes. You're the ones other once Tomorrow's

933
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 3: not promise, you know, That's my thing. Always always try

934
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: to go up that ladder. Anybody having your circle that

935
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: you trust, anything like that, just make sure that they're

936
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: actually true. Sometimes you don't know until stuff hit the fan,

937
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: because you can be doing so well, you guys in

938
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: the same page and you up here, and all of

939
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: a sudden you got to hate this going on. Sometimes

940
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: you hate this can be right under your nose. It's

941
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: just said they camouflage, so at least you know who

942
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: your haters are. At least you know the person that's coming,

943
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: you know where's coming from. It is what it is.

944
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: That's a very very very big thing. It's the world.

945
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: When you find out like damn, I know this guy

946
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: for so long and he really you know that one

947
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: I think hurts more so the people on the outside.

948
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: It's entertaining because obviously I actually entertain you that much

949
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: that you want to say nonsense. You're taking time out

950
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 3: of your day to focus on me. I love that.

951
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: Let me let me. That's how fly you are. It is,

952
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: it comes with it. But I definitely always saying when

953
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: it comes down to really understanding why other people do

954
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: other things, that's something we really can't focus on because

955
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 3: we don't know what's going on in their life or whatever,

956
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: just being just stupid and mature. But I always say, now,

957
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: when you're faced with their negativity or face with their nonsense,

958
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: how do you handle it? Or it doesn't affect you

959
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: internally physically, mentally and everything else like that. That's where

960
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: the dedicated therapy and the consistency, because you can have

961
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: a session it feel great, but it's practices you have

962
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: to continue. It's like it's consistent. It's about being, you know,

963
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: whold to the whole thing. You know, it takes two

964
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: weeks to break a bad habit, they say it me

965
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 3: with add about six.

966
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 5: Well maybe eight, So.

967
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: I need to go to consistent therapy, and sometimes people

968
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 3: just don't believe in it. So and then when you

969
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: have a guess, I say, it's like dating. You have

970
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: to make sure that therapist. You don't want to feel

971
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 3: like you're in a session where you're being checklisted how

972
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: day today, it's not. That's not therapy. You have to

973
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: have dialogue, you have to be engaged, and somebody does

974
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: not judging. People like to judge a lot, and it's like,

975
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 3: how dare you look at you? Did you decide to

976
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 3: put conditioner in your here? Did you do? You know?

977
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: So you can't judge me?

978
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: Then don't do that.

979
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: I hate when people do.

980
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: That, Like I've never been hated by someone who I

981
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: wanted to be there.

982
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: There you go exactly, and anybody's doing well for them

983
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: someone I say well for themselves are doing things that

984
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 3: are positive and really are truly for you. That's why everybody,

985
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: anybody hang out with I go to different me to

986
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: do it. I'm here because of doctor Evans. Doctor Evans

987
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: is one of the big attending physicians that I know.

988
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: He knows Damon, you know, here we go and guess

989
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: what we had a conversation. I just I surround myself

990
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: with people that I know are way better than me

991
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: because I'm going to learn from you. You're not saying

992
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: that I'm from the hood. Don't get me wrong. I

993
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: talk to all the drug dealers, I talk to all

994
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: the scammers there my friends, But are we going to

995
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 3: actually be in the same room together in a different story,

996
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: you know, a little, a little side got to but

997
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: you know, but on the for the most part, I mean,

998
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: and I tell my son that when you're around people,

999
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: make sure the bid if you get shit faced what

1000
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: they call these days, if you get if you get

1001
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 3: that happens to you, make sure you're If you fall out,

1002
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: these people around you're going to pick you up and

1003
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: not make funny. You're not being with their camera and

1004
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: everything else because it's necessari not cool because people are

1005
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: ready pull their camera out when I see things on

1006
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: social media, I'm like, you see this person getting beaten up,

1007
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: the first thing you want to polage your camera. This

1008
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: world that we live, that's.

1009
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: What I feel like is happening right now.

1010
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 2: Like I feel like like like I'm like like I'm

1011
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: around and people are kicking me and then they're like,

1012
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: that's pretty funny, dude. And then they're like I'll kick

1013
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: them too. And then there's like a gang of people

1014
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: just like with their cameras and they're like there's people

1015
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: who see like the people with the cameras. They're like,

1016
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 2: I want to be on a camera, and they'll come

1017
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: in and they'll kick me too, and I'm just the

1018
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: guy getting kicked. And it's like if I stand up

1019
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: and fight and like stand up for myself, then I'm

1020
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: crashing out right.

1021
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 3: If you do, damn if you're doing at some point,

1022
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1023
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know yeah, And it's like like I like

1024
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: the one thing that stuck with my head is like,

1025
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: like these people they're talking about me, because when they

1026
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: talk about themselves, no one listens.

1027
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: We say it all the time. Is that and that's

1028
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 3: a common finding. I say the all the time when

1029
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 3: I go to work. I's work in the hospital setting.

1030
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: I help out at night, you know, to kind of

1031
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 3: help them have a smooth night in the hospital setting.

1032
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 3: And you have like if this doctor has an attitude

1033
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: and they'll call and they have these ad I'm like, yo,

1034
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 3: was wool you. I was like the reason why I

1035
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: said I'm not calling you just to say hi. You know,

1036
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm not calling you because I'm your friend. The only

1037
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: reason why'm dowaling your number is for this patient. That's

1038
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: the only reason why we're talking. A lot of times

1039
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: people come to work and they come and do a

1040
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: number of different things and they cannot have this expressions

1041
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 3: at home. They're not hurt at home, so they transfer

1042
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: everything at work and like, oh, this person, she probably

1043
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: goes home. You kid, you sit quiet, can't do nothing.

1044
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: You're like your little mouse. So it comes to work

1045
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: being big and tough. A lot of people reject once

1046
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: they get out of their setting, and that also happens,

1047
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: you know. So for example, with my two patients that

1048
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: can't come out or one that did come out, and

1049
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: it's getting shunned. So she'll come to work and she'll

1050
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: just be like, you know, a whole different person. But

1051
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 3: when she gets home, she's a total different person. So

1052
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: they have to be a certain way because they're not

1053
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: listening to they're not her for whatever reason. It's both

1054
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: a good batter and different. And usually with a lot

1055
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: of the haters, it's just that they I always say,

1056
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: you wish you could be me. Remember I could be you.

1057
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: You can't be me. I could do your job, but

1058
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: you can't do min It's easy to be a hater.

1059
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: I could do your job, but you can't do mine.

1060
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: So always remember that very easy to be. It's easy,

1061
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: it takes it takes no experience to be a hater.

1062
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: Wow zero. So always remember, hey, I could do your job,

1063
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: but you can't do mine. You sit here and be

1064
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: who I am? Can you actually go through whatever? Leave here,

1065
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: go to career, do voluntarily, not involuntary. You did that

1066
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: on your own. Come back. You gotta expect if you

1067
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: don't have a hater, if you don't have someone trying

1068
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: to get you now because they can't do it. But

1069
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: like you said, you're not anybody that's successful. I doubt

1070
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: Bill Gates is gonna be like you're whack. I'm doubt

1071
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Warm Buffet's going to be like you're you're a loser.

1072
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: He's always wow, it's great. Multiple streams of income, this

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Speaker 3: guy is great. You know now, Multiple streams of income

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Speaker 3: is a necessity. It's it's not even luxury anymore. You

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Speaker 3: have to They can't even figure it out. They can't

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Speaker 3: even figure it out. So I always say that you

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Speaker 3: could you can hate very easily. They can't do what

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Speaker 3: you do. But therapy is the key.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. This has been such a great talk. Thank

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Speaker 4: you so much, and you've been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Could you tell them like where they can find your

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Speaker 2: practice or your social media's and all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: My name is Belinda. I am the old co owner

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Speaker 3: and co founder. Oh here we go, Hi go, owner

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Speaker 3: co founder of mind Psychiatry. You can go on info

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Speaker 3: at mind psychiatry dot com, or you could own our

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Speaker 3: website choose mind Psychiatry and you can get us from there.

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Speaker 3: You can click on the link. Both my business partner

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Speaker 3: and I are super excellent knowledgeable as you can see.

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Speaker 3: You know, we just look at the whole person. We

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Speaker 3: don't just look at this one diagnosis. So come to us.

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Speaker 3: We do ketamine, we do neuropsychological testing, we do genetic testing.

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Speaker 3: We do a full panel of labs before we initiate

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Speaker 3: any kind of medication see at all, we go to

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Speaker 3: a full history. We're available in person, we're available online,

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Speaker 3: and we also announce our do home visits. So we're

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Speaker 3: kind of well, I'll come to you, you know, we'll

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Speaker 3: see depending on what, depending on traffic, but yes, definitely

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Speaker 3: come to us and we'll definitely help you get your

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Speaker 3: mind in the right way to move in the right

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Speaker 3: directions for sure.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Belinda, Thank you for for for today, Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your time. Absolutely, yeah, that's that's that's the episode.

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Speaker 4: Yep. Oh god, okay, we're going to cut that out

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Speaker 4: all right.

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Speaker 2: Well everyone, once again, just a reminder, this is d

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Speaker 2: K Factor, uh Everything K Pop hosted by Bomhan and

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Speaker 2: this is the mental health side of the industry and

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Speaker 2: everything that's been happening in my life recently too, so

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Speaker 2: please take care reminder that you can find this podcast

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Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio, Apple podcast, wherever you find your podcast, and

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Speaker 2: I'll see you guys next week.

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Speaker 4: That's it, Mike,