WEBVTT - NFL Scouting Combine Preview (2/28) 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.800 The game is over, and then you're on the World captain. 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:07.800 You play to win the game. Case gotta that's a 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:19.240 Jet touchdown. Can't wait your Listen to the Official Jets podcast, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:26.200 a Jets three sixty production. All Right, we're back in studio. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.440 It's been a minute. Huh, it's been more than a 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.720 Minute's been a few weeks. Do you know that's a 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.519 it's a millennial saying it's been a minute. I mean 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.960 it's been a long time. So so that's the old 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.520 people saying it's been a few weeks. Yes, yep, that's fun. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.559 It's been a little too long since E. A and I, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.360 Eric Allen and Ethan Greenberg have been in studio. We 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.880 won't be here. We won't be here for long because 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.600 this is a combined preview, and by the time most 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.280 people listening to this, we will be in America's heartland. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:58.560 I am taking you to Indianapolis for your first scouting column. 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.000 I've never been to Indianapolis. I'm I'm excited. Well, that's 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.680 a great city. You probably won't be outdoors too much. 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:09.200 The great thing about Indianapolis this is a convention destination city. 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:14.119 So if it is freezing, you can stay inside, walk 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.280 to Lucas Oil, stay underground the whole time, not stay 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.120 under ground, but stay indoors the whole time. And all 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.120 the hotels are connected, and even when you walk to 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.440 the restaurants, you don't have to go outside too much. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.479 All right, e said it, But this is the combine preview. 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.240 Earlier this week and last week, Mel Kuiper of ESPN 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:37.000 and Mike Mayock both had their conference calls. We're gonna 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.640 touch on a couple of different topics of what they said. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.280 We have a somewhat loaded show, and make sure to 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.279 follow e A on Twitter at el and Jets and 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:50.680 me Ethan Greenberg got Ethan Breenberg. I had to put 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.160 the B because Ethan Greenberg was a little too generic, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:55.840 so I had to separate. But nonetheless, all right, what 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.000 about Instagram? Man, you're talking about millennials, but we can't 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:03.040 mention Instagram. Yeah, follow e A on Instagram at ellen Jet. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:07.120 That's an easy one. What about you are private? I 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.160 am private? I am? I am? I have my Instagram. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.120 Is is separate from my Twitter. Twitter is Twitter's you know, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.880 National fund and games. I don't put a lot of 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:22.000 information on on Instagram. It's more me and my friends. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.560 There's nothing. There's nothing crazy. When you have a professional 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.880 Instagram in your future, potentially I'm I'm maybe I'll open 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:35.560 up my Instagram one days. Uh start a little apprehensive 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.360 about it when you're saying your Instagram is private, So 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.320 I'm wondering in the lock, I'll show you what's behind 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.519 the lock. It's not too exciting, but all right, I 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:53.720 tell you, Mark and the trading period begin. But this 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.760 week in Indianapolis will be talking about everything because the 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.600 draft is not too far away. And then free agency, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:05.440 the Jets have a lot of money to spend, financial flexibility, Uh, 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.760 big names out there in free agency. And then Mike 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.520 mcagna has reiterated Greens that he wants to build this 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.040 thing through the draft and this is just a piece 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.320 of the process. I don't know at the end of 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:17.880 the day, and we're gonna talk to some of our 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.040 scouts about it during the week how much they actually 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:27.320 weigh the combine into the draft equation because it is 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:32.160 important because you're getting medicals, you're doing interviews, and then ultimately, 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.680 I think what you you're looking at from an on 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.200 the field perspective is just that what you see on 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:43.360 tape is confirmed, right. I think that what you said 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:48.080 is I think often overlooked in that the combine is 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.200 much more than just a series of drills. A lot 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.840 happens after they do the drills and off the field 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:58.040 that exclude the media, when that includes formal interviews a 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.160 lot of them, and the medicals, know, are very important 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.960 throughout the league in the eye of the scout and 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.680 the eye of general managers and the medical guys as well. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.360 So there are a couple of guys of course every 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.200 year that the medicals are very important for. I mean 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.800 thinking about last year, and this is a guy that's 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.000 been in the news lately unfortunately for a pair of arrest, 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.480 but Ruben Foster, there was a lot of questions about 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.760 his shoulder and the medical there, which is eventually why 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.760 a lot of people think that he ended up falling 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:30.360 all the way to the end of the first round. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.840 But this is the situation for the Jets right now. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.640 Is you touched on is that the Jets have a 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:38.080 lot of financial flexibility. March fourteenth is around the corner 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:42.880 the most camp room greens, not only for now two eighteen, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.520 but in terms of two thousand nineteen as well. There 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:52.520 you go, I did not know that, but now and 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.279 then and then not only that, but the Jets have 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.360 the number six overall pick, and I know that all 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.599 eyes right now are on the draft because of the 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:05.360 combine coming up. But first things first is that free 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.560 agency is first up on the docket, and a lot 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.680 of what happens in free agency will determine what happens 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.559 atop the draft, which will that in turn effects who's 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.560 on the board when the Jets are like that number six. Well, yeah, 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.760 you are writing about the mock drafts left and right 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:27.000 in Greenberg mock draft dot com. No, I'm just kidding, 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.040 But on New York Just dot com you're seeing a 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:34.080 lot of um, you're taking aggregates out there of what 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.600 people are projecting for the Jets at six. My thing is, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:42.479 that's a tough job because the Jets landscape, what this 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:47.480 organization looks like, is probably gonna look at least a 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:51.680 little bit differently. It will look a little bit different, 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:57.800 It could look dramatically different once I think, uh, right now, 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.479 when you kind of look at the actor get of 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.720 mock drafts that have been coming out, there are a 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:07.360 lot of quarterbacks, especially because that's not just for the Jets. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.000 That's for the teams in front of them that are 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.320 also in the market or thought to be in the 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.600 market for a signal caller. Because of course, free agency 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.599 hasn't happened yet, so those guys can't predict what happens 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.960 on the market, but a lot of guys have. The 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:26.039 Jets taking some combination of Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen, and 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:29.119 Josh Rosen. Sam Donald is the only one that really 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.720 hasn't fallen to six in the mock draft. But not 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.360 only that. If you go outside of quarterback, is how 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.640 about a guy like Quentin Nelson, And he is debatedly 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:42.039 the best prospect in this draft, the cleannest prospect, and 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.000 he is by far and away in the eye of 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.000 the draft pundits, and that includes Mel Kiper and Mike Mayock, 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.000 Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, the list goes on and on. 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.599 He is by far and away the best aligneman in 0:06:55.600 --> 0:07:00.920 this draft class and he's an interior alignment. But this 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.400 guy is an absolute freaky I mean, he's six five, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.000 three thirty. He sheds people left and right, he throws 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.960 people down. And there's this one video that if you 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.280 have not seen it, you gotta go to Todd mcshay's 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.760 Twitter and he posted this cliff and he was breaking 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:20.440 down Twitter private. No, okay, I'll check it out. Yeah 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.720 all right, all right, yeah, be sure to do that 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:27.040 and moved and moved the sticks. That's Daniel Jeremiah, is it? Yeah? 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.480 When did you say McShay? What? Quentin Nelson is lining 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.760 up at left guard like he did all season, and 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.760 the ball gets snapped. He doesn't really see anyone coming 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.880 at him rushing him, so he looks around and sure 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.400 enough there's a Georgia bulldog coming free and he pummels him. 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.800 He's a tremendous player. Mike Mack actually was asked about 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:51.280 Quentin Nelson on the recent conference. Came weren't they They were? 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.240 I think it's uh. I think we should take a 0:07:53.280 --> 0:08:03.080 listen right now. Our next question comes from Corneen Kane 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:07.920 with Chicago. Vin your line is now open, But Mike, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.280 what's sever Quinn Nelson from the other offensive lineman in 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:17.840 this draft? Good question? Um. The first is DNA. You know, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:23.000 he's two hundred three thirty pounds. He's got a nasty demeanor, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.720 he finishes with an edge. He's probably the best run 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.040 blocking interior offensive lineman i've seen in years plus. In 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.960 today's NFL, you've got to protect your quarterback, and every 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.360 quarterback I've talked to in the NFL saying what bothers 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:42.559 from the most is immediate pressure up the middle. So 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.160 you've got a guy to can set a physical edge 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.120 in the middle of your line up front and allow 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.640 your quarterback to step up. That's a big deal. So 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.000 he's great in the run game. He's very good in 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.520 the past game. He was coached by Harry Eastands, who 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:01.920 I think one of the best offensive line coach because 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.640 I've ever been around, who's now with the Chicago Bears. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.920 So he's got talent, he's got coaching, and at the 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.200 end of the day, he loves football. I know this kid. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.679 He's got a passion for the game. He's got a 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.480 passion to be the best he can be. So when 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:21.040 you add all those things up, unless he's injured, unless 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.760 he gets a bad injury, I love the fact that 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.240 he can come in day one and be a high 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.920 level NFL player. Right. So, I know that Quintin Nelson 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.040 isn't necessarily the sexiest picked, but if you're a Jets 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.360 fan and you get a guy that a lot of 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.600 people project as a first or second year pro bowler 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.840 and All Pro and he's a part of your team 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:43.440 for the next decade or so. You've got to be 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:47.000 excited about that. And the last time correct me if 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.960 I'm wrong with the last time alignment went that high 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.560 for the Jets with what Nick Mangol back in the day, Well, yeah, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.880 because they both were taking in the first round. So 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.200 that was the year where you got the brickshaw Ferguson 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.760 left tack Louder Virginia four. I think Mangold from Ohio 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.080 State twenty nine speaking Ohio State centers. Other guys gonna 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.040 get a lot of pub this week is Billy Price, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:15.560 the highest rated center by uh most draft pundits out there. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.480 So he could be a late first round or maybe 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.160 in the early second round, or that's what people are 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.720 saying right now. But you know, the thing that's fascinating 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.960 to me about Quinton Nelson is that's not a glamour 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.800 position offensive line, the guard spot. Typically when you're talking 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.800 about taking somebody dead early, maybe a top six, top 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.120 seven pick, you're thinking tackle. The only problem is that 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.199 the tackles are not rated that highly. This year and 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.520 one of the first two guys. There's kind of a 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.400 mix up top with Mike McGlinchey who played next to 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.280 Quinton Nelson. Then you get Connor Williams out of Texas 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:50.960 and Orlando Brown who protected Baker Mayfield's blindside for the 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.480 majority of his career. There, so there's a group there, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.520 and maybe e a one of those guys. His performances 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:00.520 in Indianapolis will kind of separate them from the cluster air, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.480 but we'll see what happens. But another guy at number six. Also, 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.360 for the record, if the Jets pick Quenton Nelson or 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.360 any offensive player at number six overall, that's the first 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.880 time in nine years that they do so right. It 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:14.600 will be the first time in ten picks. The last 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.400 pick is the last offensive player. The Jets selected Mark 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:23.880 Sanchez quarterback, usc they have it, and let's let's flip. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.240 Let's flip the ball here to defense because from a 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.559 defensive perspective here, there's only a couple of guys that 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.280 I think most pundits would have the Jets selecting, one 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:38.880 of them being mink Of Fitzpatrick, who's an interesting hybrid 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.720 player because he's lined up at corner. He's lined up 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.040 as safety, he's lined up as a nickel, and a 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.559 lot of people, well, the Jets don't need a safety, 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.240 you know, is that they're set at safety for years 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:55.240 to come with a tremendously talented duo and Jamal Adams 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.520 the six overall pick last year, and then obviously Marcus 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.920 May the second round pick of my mcagnet in two 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.440 thousand and seventeen. With that being said, the thing that 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.199 I find the most interesting about Fitzpatrick is you called 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.760 him a chess piece, and you're right. If he is 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.560 a slot defender, is he at top ten? Pick two 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.400 other guys that you're hearing a lot of people get 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:21.000 some love to our Denzel Award Ohio State. And then 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:27.400 guy who Kleiper absolutely loves his Josh Jackson cornerback Iowa. 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:29.720 You know, if you look at the guy that you've 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.480 moved down, the guy who I think would fit that 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:34.160 movie be Josh Jackson from Iowa. But he's projected into 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.480 the twenties, so I think he's maybe the eleventh best player, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.240 and he don't take the eleventh best player with a 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.480 sixth pick. You want to get a guy inside your 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.679 top five where you want to trade down so I 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.360 think that would be a kind of a quandary for 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.600 the chest at that point. Josh Jackson is an interesting 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:53.079 case because he came to Iowa as a receiver, so 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.400 he has tremendous hands, used more of a ball hawk 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:01.079 than someone like Denzel Award. But Josh Jackson, to me, 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:04.880 he had a great senior year or last year, but 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.960 he he was never really on the college radar beforehand 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.360 with someone like Delziel. Ward did knock on him is 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:13.040 his height. And this is also wart season, I know, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.480 his mock draft season. It's wart season because all these 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.760 guys are under a microscope, so you kind of forget 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.199 how good these guys are. And that goes for all 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.679 the quarterbacks and all the top players is oh, well 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.400 can he do this? Can he do that? Well? No 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.080 player is perfect, but these are the top players in 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.240 this year's draft, and someone like Mickey Fitzpatrick is I 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.240 think best suited as However, he'd be used in that 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:38.160 if you move him around a little bit and he 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:39.880 does a little bit of this, it does a little 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.679 bit of that. If he were to come here, I 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.760 would assume Todd Bowles would know exactly how he would 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:48.960 want to deploy him. Listen, you know, I get back 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:52.400 to what we touched on the onset here Green's is set. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:55.000 All options are on the table for the Jets at 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.439 the quarterback position. So the number one thing that you 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.640 want answered from the organization in an offseason is what 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:07.080 direction were you going at in regards to the quarterback? Uh? 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.960 It's expected that Kirk Cousins has that explaining contract, that 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.760 he will be a coveted free agent by multiple suitors 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.920 out there. What are the Vikings going to do with 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.640 their threesome of quarterbacks? It's been reported earlier this week 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.040 that case Keenum is not going to get the franchise tag, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.600 so he's an expiring contract. Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford, A 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:34.040 J McCarron. He won his battle with the National Football 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.680 League with Cincinnati Bengals, I should say, and he's gonna 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:40.640 be a guy out there. It's expected, So, well, how 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.920 are the Dominos going to fall in free agency? And 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.640 I would be remiss if I didn't mention Josh McConnell 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.720 in a career year last year with Oh by the way, 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.800 the Jets new offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates being his quarterbacks coach. 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.760 Josh mcconnen wants to play, and he wants to play 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.720 for the Jets, So the Jets good re signment, cown 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.440 and or take a look at a number of these 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.720 guys who are floating out there, and there could be 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.600 some other moves made over the next week or two 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.800 before we get to free agency. And then we moved 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.440 to the draft, and he said, people are wondering the 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:23.200 para McCown up with potentially whoever you have in house 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:27.160 right now, Brayce Petty, Christian Hackenburg under contract, and add 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.720 a quarterback with that sixth overall selection. The guys that 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.200 people are talking about predominantly at the top of the 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.800 draft at the quarterback spot, Sam Donald, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.200 Baker Mayfield. It seems like to me Green's and You're 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.000 following this just as much as me right now that 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.760 those four have separated themselves from the pack. With that 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:52.480 being said, a guy that I'm fascinated by is Lamar 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:55.600 Jackson because he was an electrifying college player. He won 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:00.000 the Heisman Trophy and then people kind of got all 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.320 of him this year and I don't know what to 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:07.040 make of him as uh, potentially on the pro level. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:12.120 But Lamar Jackson is a dynamic athlete, and he was 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.400 a superstar at the collegiate level, so I'm intrigued by 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.840 where he winds up. I know some people said, well, 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.880 maybe we make him as a wide receiver. I view 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.600 him as a quarterback. I think Lamar Jackson often in 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.360 the college football season was overlooked, but now everyone's coming 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.920 out and complimenting him. I mean, Michael Vick said, Lamar 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.720 Jackson is better than I was at that point in 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.080 his career. Mike Mayock thinks he's the most electrifying player 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.720 not in the NFL. WHOA, whoa as a draft prospect. Yeah, 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:47.520 let's get to that sound right now. The one way 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.640 outside the box conversation with Lamar Jackson, who I think 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.240 is the most electrifying player in this draft. And I 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.080 think somebody's gonna take him and commit their offense the 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.680 philosophy to him. And I would tell you that the 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.600 most nervous thirty one people in the league would be 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:09.600 the defensive coordinators that would have to play against them. Well, 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.919 I think with Lamar you see accuracy throwing the football 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.919 and finished his career round fifty seven percent, so you 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.840 know you can throw path with Bolt, you know, with 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.000 wide open receivers and uh and in the call him 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.960 in the area throws in college, you can't get away 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:23.879 with that in the NFL. But he's got talent and 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.800 he's like I remember Rich Gannon when he came out 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.560 of Delaware. It was a similar entity. They said, great athlete, 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:30.639 we can make him a dB or a receiver, and 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.359 he developed into a hack of a quarterback. So if 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:35.200 you give a Lamar Jackson time as a second round pick, 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:36.919 I think there's a champ he could be in an 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.720 effective starter down the road. You always had that fallback 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.399 plan though with Lamar Jackson because of his athleticism that 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.040 maybe be a wide receiver. Well, we don't know if 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.680 he can do that. We know if he wants to 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.160 do that. So if you drest him like you don't 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:49.000 have to drest him as a quarterback and he's like 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.360 a wide receiver, would be a fallback plan. And then 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.719 adding on to Mike Mayock is Bucky Brooks actually has 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.200 Lamar Jackson ahead of Josh Allen. So I think it'll 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.840 be fascinating these see these guys on the field that 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.640 Lucas Oil Stadium. Because one we haven't seen him throw 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.000 in a while. Yes they're in shorts, Yes they don't 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:11.679 have I would imagine all these guys are gonna have 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.920 decent days. You think so, yes, and a theoretical setting, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.160 but it's a it's a very controlled atmosphere and you're 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.479 thrown against their Josh Rosen is probably the most accurate 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.800 pastor of the lot when you're talking about the purest pastor. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.840 But you know, we can go up and down and say, well, 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.600 this guy's pros and this many cons against him. When 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:38.440 you think about Donald is that he's more mobile, he's bigger, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.840 he seems to make some place when things break down 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.360 around him, and he's got some horky jerky nous to him. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.240 But he's also got a lot of intangibles. A lot 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.280 of people think he's gonna be then over one overall, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:54.200 pick Rosen, purest pastor in the draft, most accurate pastor 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.760 in the draft. Has been banged up at times at 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.159 u c L a very strong personality. Josh sam One 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.800 Mayock said he's got the strongest army scene since JaMarcus Russell. 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.320 And he wasn't trying to say that Josh Allen is 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:12.120 gonna have any kind of with JaMarcus Russell. But he's 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.920 saying that that's what kind of arm strength the kid has. 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.960 Obviously Allen had completion. Did you see the issues at Wyoming? 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.280 Did you see the video of Josh Allen on both 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.680 knees at midfield throwing the ball and hitting the crossbar? No, 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:31.119 but that gives you strength. But how many times in 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.240 the NFL have you seen a guy well, you mean 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.119 you've never seen that? No, I haven't seen that. Okay, okay, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.560 So then he got he got Baker Mayfield, who's tremendously 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.480 competitive and athletic, and he he can move and I 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.159 think he's an accurate pastor, and he's very competitive and 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.879 a lot of people, as some pundits would say, is 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:51.840 that is he your cup of tea? Because he's a 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.480 different kind of guy. Well, you had said earlier today, 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.080 you had told me each of the different quarterbacks is like, 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.879 he's kind of ice cream flavors. What, Yeah, you have 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.000 been chocolate chip guy, either that or some form of 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:06.760 cookies and cream. Okay, what about you? So those are 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:11.440 traditional flavors. I guess I like something with peanut butter 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.080 in it or cookie doll. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.480 I like cookie dough and I do like peanut butter. 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.159 You like cookie dough out of raw cookie dough like 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.040 out of the hey you're asking ice cream? Yeah no, 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.400 but I I got I got off track there, that's 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.639 all right. E a over there. Follow him on Twitter 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.879 at ye all and jets me Ethan Greenberg, Ethan B. 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.399 Greenberg not be just the letter B. This is the 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:42.840 official JEZZ Podcast. Okay, so you mentioned guys who weren't quarterbacks. Well, 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:48.560 let's Quentin alson making Fitzpatrick thens our Ward we talked about, 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.280 and then let's go to the pass rushers. How about 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:55.360 Bradley Chubb, Marcus Davenford, a guy that you are very 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:58.880 familiar with because you were on hand and mobile watching 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.480 him practice at the Senior Bowl. And then l s 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:08.439 U has a pass rusher to who's considered maybe that 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.800 top three group. But to me, the flash point of 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.120 the draft. I was about to bring this up, the 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.760 flash point, the flash point, the early flash point of 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.320 this draft is going to be number three in Indianapolis, 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.480 and what are they going to do? Right? But what 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.840 for you? What makes them the flash point compared to 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.080 let's say I think, well, I think Cleveland takes a 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:31.640 quarterback at one. You know, I think, as we sit 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.480 here today, I think that's gonna be Sam Donald. The 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.919 Giants could go in a lot of different directions, but 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.680 they don't have a lot of salary cap space. They 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:45.200 want Eli Manning to return. All signs indicate that he's 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.680 going to be returning. One is the the next time 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.399 you're gonna be up here this high in the draft. 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:54.760 Giants dealt with a lot of injuries last year. I'm saying, 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.000 if you're the Giants, your play right now is probably 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.120 a quarterback. Indianapolis, why is it a flashpoint? Because they 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.000 have a quarterback and Andrew luck is saying his shoulders 0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:08.720 feeling better. So what do they do there? They go 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:13.560 Bradley Chubb, they go to this generational talent maybe at 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.400 running back and say Kwon Barkley, or do they trade out. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.320 I think the Giants are very interesting. Nothing is because 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.960 I go back to Indianapolis and say they have a quarterback. 0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:28.199 The Giants could take a quarterback. I think Indianapolis is 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.800 more likely to move out since they do have a quarterback. 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.520 That's why I say it's a flash The Giants are 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.760 sitting there at too would they move back. Sure, all 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:41.200 those teams up in the top five, top six, Mike 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.760 mccagnan is gonna say that he's gonna listen to teams 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:45.800