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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that whoo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And then and Tye, welcome back to the solid purple

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Speaker 2: boys and girls. My name is ty Hildenbrand joining me.

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Speaker 2: He is still over there, if you can believe it.

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Speaker 2: In beautiful, in sunny in southern California. The one and

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Speaker 2: only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Ty, I am quite excited that

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Speaker 1: seventy three news breakings happened six minutes before we hit

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Speaker 2: For once, sometimes the gods smile upon you. I say

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Speaker 2: that tongue in cheek because it's a lot of bad

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Speaker 2: news unfortunately pertaining to you know what, you know who.

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Speaker 2: But a last week came back for more. We're glad

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Speaker 2: He's Dan. We are the Solid Verbal. We're a college

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, it would you know, a weekly dip conversation

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Speaker 2: right in Solid Verbal at gmail dot com. Give us

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Speaker 2: your extra long offseason podcast suggestions for what to do,

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Speaker 2: because yeah, we got a lot of news here. It's

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Speaker 2: not great as it relates to college football. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 2: we're excited to be here with you, and if you

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Speaker 2: are as excited to be here with us, going out

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Speaker 2: and give us five star review. Every little bit helps.

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Speaker 2: We've got I think, a fun show to talk about

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Speaker 2: tonight once we actually get through the news. But should

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Speaker 1: Let's let's attack. And I'm monitoring as we are speaking,

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Speaker 1: because I'm already seeing certain reports are premature, other reports

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Speaker 1: I like this, this is the good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah, we have oh, breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, how about this? Nicole Auerback is the woge

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Speaker 1: of college football? How about that breaking news? Our bombs?

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Speaker 1: our bombs? I you nailed it, absolutely, We had her

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Speaker 1: There's everything is still very much up in the air,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, all right.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, man, can you please make

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Speaker 2: Elsewhere in college football slash coronavirus news. This one I

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Speaker 2: There's like a million things going on at the moment. Stanford.

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Speaker 2: The eleven sports are men's and women's fencing, field hockey,

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Speaker 2: Dan You familiar with the Director's Cup.

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Speaker 1: I am. I was going to say, we're talking about Stanford,

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Speaker 2: They decided twenty six years ago to start giving out

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Speaker 2: and they have to cut eleven programs from their portfolio.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking to me as if I weren't an

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Speaker 2: We're going a slightly different direction today, Dan, we are

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Speaker 2: If college football is willing to adapt to the wild

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Speaker 2: Frankly in that Morgantown area. Also for Penn State, we

435
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Speaker 2: could have a neutral cider in either Cleveland or Akron

436
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Speaker 2: against Michigan. We could have a neutral sider in d

437
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Speaker 2: C against the the excuse me, Richmond Spiders. And if

438
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Speaker 2: we really want to get Saucy, we could play Yukon

439
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 2: at either Fisher Stadium, the home of the Lafayette Leopards.

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Speaker 1: Of course I've been there, Or if you really.

441
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Speaker 2: Want to go low Rent, we could go Cottingham Stadium

442
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Speaker 2: at Eastern High School, or move about twenty five minutes

443
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Speaker 2: or so west to Jay Bernie Crumb Stadium in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

444
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Speaker 1: The yacos I was trying to think of a word

445
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Speaker 1: with why that's like a throwdown word. I don't know

446
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: what it is. My my alliteration skills are not great

447
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, you can. You can do a

448
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun things if you're willing to sacrifice and

449
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: play in small like a minor league stadium, JC stadium,

450
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Speaker 1: a Division two stadium, if there's nobody playing a sport

451
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Speaker 1: in that stadium that day, because make no mistake, there

452
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Speaker 1: are many multi sport fields across this great lege. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean you'd have to figure out logistics

454
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Speaker 1: in terms of medical facilities, in terms of and we

455
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Speaker 1: had we had Adam Amin on the show. He talked

456
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Speaker 1: a lot about how actually a lot of these major

457
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: schools are outfitted nicely for TV that you're you know,

458
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: they have plug plugins for trucks and for uplinks to

459
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Speaker 1: satellites and things like that that make remote broadcasting easy.

460
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Speaker 1: You start playing at whatever whatever field at Allentown, all

461
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Speaker 1: due respect to whatever. Jay Bernie Crumb, sir, is this

462
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Speaker 1: where the Iron Pigs play?

463
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Speaker 2: No? No, no, that's Coca Cola Park, Bernie Cubby. They

464
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Speaker 2: have a huge fireworks display every year.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you're missing that, but tie, if we

466
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Speaker 1: start playing on neutral fields because it is a connection

467
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Speaker 1: point between two schools that we really want to see

468
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Speaker 1: play if we could get and I'm using whatever example

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Speaker 1: just pops into my mind, but in the way that

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Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma meet roughly halfway in Dallas, if we

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Speaker 1: want to make Texas lsu happen, you know, are we

472
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Speaker 1: going to Texarkana? Are we going somewhere? Probably not text Arcana,

473
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Speaker 1: because I don't know if that actually works out geographically,

474
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Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, some sort of border town. Uh,

475
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Speaker 1: you know, are they meeting in Houston something like that?

476
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Speaker 1: They're meeting in East Texas somewhere. And that's easy because

477
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Speaker 1: there are fields in major cities. But you deal with

478
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Speaker 1: the problem of TV. But then suddenly, suddenly Tie, some

479
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Speaker 1: enterprising young lad who has access to the stadium just

480
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Speaker 1: fires up Instagram lit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do this right.

482
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Speaker 1: It is broadcasting Pitt West Virginia Backyard Brawl thanks to

483
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Speaker 1: you know, Pit Pitt bro for eighty seven, who has

484
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Speaker 1: seventy three thousand live viewers on his Instagram feed because

485
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: he knows a dude who colored in the chalk lines

486
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: on their painted the lines on the field. So you

487
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: get all sorts of crazy scenarios if you open things

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Speaker 1: up to a halfway point game. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get some real interesting scenarios too as

490
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Speaker 2: you go through a couple of these, you know, different locations,

491
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Speaker 2: just where teams fall geographically. I've got a couple here.

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Speaker 2: I know you do too.

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Speaker 1: Who do you have any big winners and big losers

494
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Speaker 1: in terms of central cluster teams that can sort of

495
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Speaker 1: look at their map like a clock and so you

496
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Speaker 1: know the big hand is going. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: at a school in North Carolina obviously so many ACC

498
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Speaker 1: schools there, and you have you know, SEC schools in

499
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Speaker 1: South Carolina, and you have the Tennessee schools where there's

500
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Speaker 1: just a lot that's gettable. Who are your big clock

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00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: central cluster winners. Penn State's one of them, right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I think Ohio State's another. Ohio State's got got pitt

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Speaker 1: in Youngstown, Akron, Toledo, Michigan, a lot of schools by

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Speaker 1: the way, in state of Ohio that they could play

505
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Speaker 1: and they do play in most years. They've got Michigan,

506
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: which is doable. Could even go as far south as Lexington, Kentucky.

507
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Speaker 1: Louisville if they're willing to play some like midway games.

508
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Speaker 1: West Virginia also playing a factor here. They could play

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Speaker 1: Tennessee in Lexington, Kentucky. They could play Vandy in Louisville,

510
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Speaker 1: and they could play Notre Dame in Indy if they

511
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Speaker 1: really want it. Sure, So, yeah, I'm seeing Indiana's a

512
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Speaker 1: really nice cluster winner. Yeah, just with Purdue, Notre Dame, Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Probably get to Ohio State, Illinois. That's a nice little

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Speaker 1: cluster up to Chicago's not even Purdue. It's more central,

515
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Speaker 1: I think than Indianapolis. But I might be looking at

516
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Speaker 1: the mapp incorrectly. But those schools right there, right smack

517
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Speaker 1: dab in the middle of the Big ten can span

518
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Speaker 1: multiple conferences because of Kentucky proximity.

519
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Speaker 2: So if you're really looking for winners in terms of

520
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Speaker 2: who can pack, who can pack the biggest punch, looks

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Speaker 2: great Tennessee's. Tennessee's up there, for sure, they're a big winner.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Clemson. I'm ready, let's talk about Clemson.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about their access to both Charlotte and Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: All Right, the whole playbook in the Southeast is essentially

525
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Speaker 2: open to Clemson, Georgia, Tennessee, pretty much every Carolina school.

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Speaker 2: With their access to Charlotte, which also opens up Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 1: They could Charlotte itself a promising school. Yeah sure, forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could play both Alabama and Auburn in Atlanta,

530
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Speaker 2: and then, if you know, if they really want to

531
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Speaker 2: get crazy, they could play Florida State at McConnell Talbert Stadium.

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Speaker 2: They call it the Mac locally in Warner's Robins, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Sure they got new field turf, Like you almost didn't

534
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Speaker 1: nail Warner's Robbins, but you got there. I like it,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was tough.

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Speaker 2: No great job, newfield turf five years ago, a huge

539
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Speaker 2: fireworks display every fourth of July. I think it would

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Speaker 2: be a nice boon for the local economy and probably

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Speaker 2: the biggest game that the MAC has seen ever in

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Speaker 2: its in its storied history.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm talking about the Mac.

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Speaker 2: No, the m AC is What think of the Mac

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Speaker 2: McConnell Albert Stadium in Warner Robbins, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we just we have a different Mac in college football?

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Speaker 2: Any other winners for you?

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Speaker 1: Alabama's in a pretty good spot. Having you know, the

549
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Speaker 1: Mississippi schools not terribly far, the Georgia schools not terribly far,

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Speaker 1: Vandy and Tennessee the clockwise, it works out well. Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've already mentioned Atlanta, it's in a good place.

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Speaker 1: I think if you are in the Midwest or southeast,

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Speaker 1: you are largely doing well. I think Baylor just the

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Speaker 1: number of schools because they're sort of in the middle

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Speaker 1: there in Waco. To be able to get to Fort

556
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Speaker 1: Worth and to get to College Station and Austin Lubbock's

557
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: always going to be a challenge for everybody. But at

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Speaker 1: least you know Baylor can get there and you maintain

559
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Speaker 1: butt tie butt, right. I'm in my mid thirties, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think those are the big winners. The more west

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Speaker 1: you had, the more difficult it is to make a

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Speaker 1: case for anything but halfway points. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: familiar you are with Humboldt County, California.

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Speaker 2: Very familiar, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right up at the sort of northern calor northern northern

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Speaker 1: northern California. So to sort of span between Oregon schools

567
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Speaker 1: and the Bay Area schools. Vegas seems like an obvious

568
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: bubble with its ability both with a couple of high

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Speaker 1: level high school stadiums. Bishop Gorman for Titta Field of Gorman,

570
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Speaker 1: a longtime football power, has a very very nice stadium setup.

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Speaker 1: There have been ESPN games filmed on for Tidafield at

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Speaker 1: Gorman Bishop Stadium, Gorman Bishop High School. Excuse me. Then

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Speaker 1: you have Sam Boyd Stadium where the Vegas Bowl is

574
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Speaker 1: in the New Raiders Stadium, because who doesn't want Oregon State.

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Speaker 1: Arizona played on a gigantic, monolithic NFL field. The west

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Speaker 1: is where the losers are tie Arizona losers in proximity.

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Speaker 2: Arizona is about the worst you can imagine. Probably not

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Speaker 2: as bad as Boise, but Arizona wasn't a tough spot

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Speaker 2: if we're talking Power five only, Yeah, that's true. That's Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I just looked at Tucson. It's like, oh boy, this

581
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Speaker 2: is now. This is very problematic. Unless there's a prominent

582
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Speaker 2: Mexican college team that they might be interested in playing,

583
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Speaker 2: that'd be amazing.

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Speaker 1: Colorado has the Kansas schools. Utah getting to Salt Lake

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Speaker 1: City is going to be a hall for either the Utes,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Utes to folsom Field or Colorado going

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00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: up to SLC. Minnesota's pretty far away. Minnesota, Nebraska. Nebraska

588
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: is tough, but Minnesota is particularly tough because they've got

589
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Speaker 1: really nothing to the west or the north north DA

590
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Speaker 1: coast state to build a clock around. Yeah, I mean,

591
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: you can get from Minneapolis to Fargo, no problem. But

592
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Speaker 1: who wants to lose? That's what will happen. That's what

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Speaker 1: will happen. Ty, you're speaking to somebody right now who

594
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Speaker 1: is relieved as all hell that it looks like Oregon

595
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Speaker 1: won't be playing the Bison this fall.

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Speaker 2: It just it begs the question. So you know, this

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Speaker 2: is a bit of a high concept, right, Like a

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00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: lot of this stuff is again wild Westy probably won't

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Speaker 2: come to fruition, but we don't know enough at this

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Speaker 2: point to say that it won't or can't. We're thinking

601
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Speaker 2: of it in terms of driveability, and if we are

602
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Speaker 2: gonna steer into Aha, this weird world where maybe only

603
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Speaker 2: drivable games are possible, then it begs the obvious question

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Speaker 2: like could there be home and home games within the

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Speaker 2: same season?

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Speaker 1: Ty, you can play the breaking draft? Ding?

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Speaker 2: Uh oh, all.

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Speaker 1: We got this is Bruce Feldman and Nicole Auerback both

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Speaker 1: reporting this. Those are as solid a duo as exists

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Speaker 1: in the college football media landscape. This is according to

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Speaker 1: Bruce Capital source coland ACC coaches have been told of

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Speaker 1: a conference only games plan. I'm told the coaches have

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Speaker 1: not yet been told it's definite. ACC's tentative conference only

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Speaker 1: football plan, as they've discussed, would extend to include Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, yes, but Nicole is saying. The ACC is

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Speaker 1: expected to announce today that it will not allow fallse

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Speaker 1: sport competitions until at least September first, affecting other sports.

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Speaker 1: Practices for all sports would still be allowed in August.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of ACC breaking news here. Nothing definitive.

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00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: But but according to a source, Nicole has spoken to

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Speaker 1: the ACC not fully announcing something buys them quote a

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Speaker 1: little time. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you Nicole for that hour bomb. I found it.

624
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Speaker 1: Look at you doing two things at once.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while since I heard their sheep at

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Speaker 2: the end.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's the new breaking news. Sound if it's from Nicole. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we were saying home and homes within the same season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's possibility. It has to be, right, Yeah, yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: double rivalry games depending on the in state proximity. So

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Speaker 1: you'd get double Oregon Oregon state, and they're I think

633
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: like thirty five miles apart. That's nothing in central Oregon,

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00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: central western Oregon. There the arizonask you have two territorial cups.

635
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: It makes sense on the West coast especially, and there

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Speaker 1: are you know, there are places I think it's about

637
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Speaker 1: a seven hour drive between LA and the Phoenix area,

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00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: so maybe somewhere in very much eastern southern California. I

639
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what town that would be would work

640
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: well for those because those are places that are pretty

641
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: far apart. But up north you have Callan Stanford a

642
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: big game. So yeah, I think you get a ton

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Speaker 1: of home and homes involved, especially in some bigger states.

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00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Penn State pit double the fun, double the pleasure. I'm

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00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: good with that. Yeah, So I think that's an obvious call,

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Speaker 1: I think, And we've seen, you know, we've seen games

647
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Speaker 1: in Utah between Utah State byu Utah and so you

648
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: have nice little round robin there back and forth and

649
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: award new state trophies, tie new traditions. Love a good

650
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: state trophy.

651
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: I've made my living on this show making fun of

652
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: Ohio State for winning the Ohio State championship year in

653
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: the ure out like fifty years running.

654
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: There's a common Northwest cup. That's a thing.

655
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Speaker 2: This could be the year where that is actually like

656
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: out of necessity you talk about the Northwest. Let's zoom

657
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: in on that for a second. Because the Oregon Ducks

658
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: are in an interesting spot.

659
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, let's zoom in.

660
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: They could play against Washington at the Timbers Stadium in

661
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: Portland if.

662
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Speaker 1: They wanted to write fun time I've heard.

663
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: They could play. Could they play Washington State somewhere along

664
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Speaker 2: I eighty four next to the Columbia River?

665
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: Is that is talking about the Dalls. We're talking somewhere

666
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: northeastern Oregon.

667
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: Sure, could they create a field somewhere in a state park?

668
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: They could probably do that.

669
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Speaker 1: I think so. I just I'm going to warn you

670
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: tie open space is in eastern Oregon get very dicey.

671
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: On the federal level gets very dicey. So you have

672
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: to make a lot of plans for both security and

673
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: for reservation.

674
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: A lot of orange cones.

675
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: That's reservation in terms of reserving a football field, not

676
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: in reference to Native Americans, to be clear.

677
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm thinking, could we could we rekindle

678
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 2: the Oregon Boise State game somewhere on Strawberry Mountain?

679
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: Oh, tell me more? Is it doable? I don't know

680
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: what else is going on. I'm going to assume you've

681
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: never driven in some I've driven the drive. I think

682
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: it's I forget the interstate and the freeways between. You

683
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: go up. Generally you go up to Portland from Eugene,

684
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: then to Boise. Based on how the interstates work, Eastern

685
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Oregon is it's not what you think of when you

686
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: think of Oregon. Somebody from the east coast and you

687
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: just think of tall trees and mountains and rugged coastline

688
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. In Portland. Eastern Oregon is very different.

689
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: So there's room. There's definitely room, Okay.

690
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: And then I'm thinking that as we get down into

691
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: the Boise State issue. Mm hmm, how are we could

692
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: we play Boise State versus Utah at Twin Falls High School?

693
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: Twin Falls High School, by the way, the esteemed alma

694
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: mater of Mark Felt formerly known as Deep Throat class

695
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: of nineteen thirty one.

696
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's some deep research, ty. I don't see

697
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: why not.

698
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: That might be the only game Boys he can play.

699
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Can we have didn't build the spill? Do they have

700
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: a song called Twin Falls, Idaho? I think they do.

701
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: Can they play like a short, little socially distant acoustic

702
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: show outside of that game? I would love that?

703
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: Oh man, who else is a big loser for you?

704
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean the Mountain time zone in general, places

705
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: are just far apart. They are just far apart. I

706
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: mentioned Minnesota. You start getting down to South Florida, Miami

707
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: is not anywhere near Florida or Florida state in terms

708
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: of driving distance.

709
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: A lot of schools down that way though, they.

710
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: Just not power five right, A lot of FBS, fcs,

711
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: whatever options down there for Miami. So that's at least nice,

712
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: and you know the weather's going to be fine. I mean,

713
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: obviously the main Black Bears a pretty removed there. I

714
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I think you can find answers

715
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: for most places. I mean that is pretty removed.

716
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: I think LSU is in a really odd spot. Yeah,

717
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: I mean they're close enough to play a couple games, right,

718
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: like the play schools in Louisiana. For sure, they could

719
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: play the Mississippi schools. They could play a and M.

720
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: They could play some schools in Louisiana. They could even

721
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: play Alabama if they went up to Hattiesburg Waypoint at

722
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: you know USM. But you know they're they're kind of

723
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: in a weird spot down there. I found some interesting

724
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Speaker 2: scenarios for Georgia, and Georgia doesn't really fall into the

725
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: category of being a loser in any sense of the word.

726
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: But if they if they really wanted to stretch their

727
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: wings and keep the cocktail party going, they might have

728
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Speaker 2: to shift it north to Hinesville, Georgia and Liberty County

729
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: at Old State.

730
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Speaker 1: It was some knowledge about that.

731
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that's a possibility they wanted to do that.

732
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: They can also go west and play Mississippi State at

733
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Talladega Superspeedway, which would be a lot of fun. They

734
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: tried playing a game there wasn't bad.

735
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you with an option. Knew, Like

736
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: what conference is suffering the most in terms of proximity.

737
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: It's probably the PAC twelve. Right How to be I

738
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: think you have to bring the University of Hawaii to

739
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: San Luis obispoll on the central coast of California, because Buddy,

740
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: Hawaii is in a tough spot. O.

741
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 2: Why is in a real tough spot here? Not gonna lie.

742
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: They they are the Slo Warriors, I mean, and I

743
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: know there is a team already in San Luis Obispell.

744
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: But maybe they merge their programs because I don't know

745
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: what Hawaii does Otherwise, if they just need a permanent

746
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: home for the fall, if anything's going to happen with.

747
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Them, Hawaii could be the ultimate bubble location too. Sure,

748
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if Hawaii wants people coming to be

749
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 2: there and be in their bubble.

750
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: But right, can I ask you something related to this

751
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: in all not okay, in all seriousness is not the

752
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: right phrase here, But what do you think a visiting

753
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: team in this scenario A true visiting team, so not

754
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: meeting at a halfway point. So if Clemson is getting

755
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: on a bunch of buses to take on Georgia Tech

756
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, which is not far, but they're getting on

757
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: buses and that's you know, it's a little bit more

758
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: difficult than getting there the day before. We're talking morning

759
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: of Clemson, or we're talking Baylor getting in a bus

760
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 1: and going to College station something like that. However long

761
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: that takes, that's a pretty major disadvantage. Sure that you're

762
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: waking up at the crack of dawn to take a

763
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: two three four hour bus ride, sitting still getting stiff

764
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: and making sitting on it, just doing nothing. Essentially, you're

765
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: not able to go through a walk through or anything

766
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: like that until you get to campus, so you're probably

767
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: not getting the best nutrition, the best sleep. You need

768
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: to stretch and sort of get looser than usual given

769
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: the circumstance of travel. Let's say it's a three third

770
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: pm local time kick two thirty pm local time kick,

771
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: so you're getting there two three hours ahead at least.

772
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Do you think there should be some sort of added

773
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: bonus for being a true road team after a three

774
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: four hour bus ride or should that just be okay

775
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: because it's football and everybody was used to it in

776
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: high school. You miss a pretty big disadvantage.

777
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: Are we talking like tangible in terms of like you

778
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: get three points? Literally, you get three points like you

779
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: would if you were a road team in a in

780
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: a bedding line.

781
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: I was thinking a little smaller. I was thinking maybe,

782
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: and that's it's not a bad idea. I don't hate

783
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: starting the game up three nil. Maybe just automatically winning

784
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: the coin toss and or getting an extra second half

785
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: time out, something that gives you an extra added bonus.

786
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: But at the same time, home teams, and I've heard

787
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion around this with the bubble in

788
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: Orlando with the NBA that you know, I think the

789
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks, of the best record in the East, in

790
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: the Lake are the best record in the West. They

791
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: have no home field advantage, our home court advantage in

792
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs. So all of a sudden and I

793
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: look this up, and it makes sense. Teams are a

794
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: lot better defensively on third down when they have the

795
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: crowd roaring behind them, no crowd roaring behind them, that

796
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: suddenly changes the game into a slightly more neutral situation.

797
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know, is it even for both teams.

798
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Maybe they still think you give some sort of advantage

799
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: for the true road team.

800
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's you could play at both sides, right,

801
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: of course, it really could. Maybe they come up with

802
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 2: some scenario where they're pumping in, pumping in music, pumping

803
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: in crowd noise like they're doing on Premier League Saturdays

804
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: and n BC. I think try and benefit the home team.

805
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I think you should be allowed sound effects, but not

806
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: crowd noise like Oregon State plays a chainsaw on third downs,

807
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: which doesn't fully make sense because chainsaws take away beaver jobs.

808
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: But or you know, some sort of pump up sound effect,

809
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: but not full crowd. Hmm hmm. What I mean? What other?

810
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: What other obstacles do you see in terms of Okay,

811
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: so they're going to be not as loose and well

812
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: slept and well nourished, and you know they're their timing

813
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a lot more off than usual.

814
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: What if we're crossing time zones here? Ty crossing time

815
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a little out of whack. Yeah, you're losing

816
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: an hour.

817
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: Crossing time zones. What if? What if the bus breaks down?

818
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: Another great question?

819
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: What if the bus breaks down? Is it a situation

820
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 2: like where they've got the they got the medical unit

821
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: traveling behind the president.

822
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: Bonus bus do we bring?

823
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: Do we bring a spare bus with us to make

824
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: sure that we get to the field on time?

825
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: I think you, I think that's one hundred percent mandatory.

826
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 2: I know how high school bus in high school, when

827
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 2: there would be like a traveling baseball team coming down

828
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: from the Poconos dan m h. Sometimes it wouldn't make

829
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: it on time. We'd have to delay the whole start

830
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 2: time because of traffic.

831
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we get what, as we get into winter,

832
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: because we're not fully counting on the season starting on time.

833
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: You talk about the Upper Midwest, you talk about the Northeast,

834
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: road closures, iciness, black ice, things get their hazards tie.

835
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: This is ice road truckers twenty twenty especially. There are

836
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: so many obstacles. I love this. I love the idea

837
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: of all of the sudden games aren't being postponed because

838
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: of lightning, and we're not seeing the radar on ESPN.

839
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: Games are being postponed because of I eighty. I'm like, oh,

840
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: there's just a bunch of traffic. There's just a bunch

841
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: of traffic. We're gonna have to push this one back.

842
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: I think it's totally totally possible if in fact, college

843
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: football should decide to go with a nuclear option. Here

844
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: go wild west, allow teams to play drivable games, and

845
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: if they can find a willing neutral site venue that

846
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: will take them in, let's let's get on with this thing.

847
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what's the here's a serious question. What

848
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: is the minimum number of games with to be included

849
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: in a season that you would take a record seriously,

850
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so like and and I'll be as

851
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: specific as I can. Let's say the Big Ten lands

852
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: on a five games schedule and it's all within division.

853
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Let's say they keep it within division. So Ohio State

854
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: ends up playing Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, whoever, whoever.

855
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's already a legitimately tough schedule.

856
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: Sixty percent of your schedules against the Michigan schools and

857
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: Penn State, that's that's rocky. If Alabama's schedule is Auburn, LSU,

858
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: all Miss Tech to A and M, you know, just

859
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: five incredibly quality teams at the very least. Are you

860
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: taking a division only five games schedule seriously in terms

861
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: of evaluating a team? Or is that too small a

862
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: sample size given the unusual circumstance of the year.

863
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: I think universally it's five or six games.

864
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 1: Six bare minimum. If we get to five or six,

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Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I have a concept for how good

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Minnesota or TCU team is.

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Speaker 2: This is ultimately how UCF claims another national championship. Of course,

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Speaker 2: this is how it happens or Nebraska or anybody, right,

869
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Speaker 2: this is this is how it happens. And that remains

870
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Speaker 2: my biggest curiosity about this unbalanced conference only season that

871
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Speaker 2: appears to be where we're at now. That could change

872
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Speaker 2: a million times before August, but that remains the question.

873
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Speaker 2: What happened if you've got one team with seven games,

874
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Speaker 2: one team with six games, one team with nine games.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I don't know how

876
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Speaker 2: you do a postseason based on that. But my guess

877
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Speaker 2: is that we're headed more into the past with the

878
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is my dream post version of college

879
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: football that that you treasure so much.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the arguments if and I just saw

881
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: Roger Sherman from The Ringer Our Powell Roger tweet this

882
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Speaker 1: out that SEC fans finally have the most solid ground

883
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Speaker 1: to stand on if every other conference cancels non conference

884
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Speaker 1: game that truly, no other teams ain't played nobody, Truly,

885
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Speaker 1: the arguments that we could have based on five game schedules,

886
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Speaker 1: the fact that we could look at a team at

887
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Speaker 1: three and two and say, what a garbage three and

888
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: two team? What they lost two games? They lost forty

889
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Speaker 1: percent of their games, And I'm supposed to respect them.

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Speaker 1: I just love how much we're gonna have to readjust

891
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Speaker 1: how we make takes around the sport, and that could

892
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: be in the spring, be pushed October, November, whatever. I

893
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Speaker 1: like the idea of having a comically low number of

894
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Speaker 1: games to try to make justifications with. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're going to get You think we're

896
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Speaker 2: going to get more or less in terms of downloads?

897
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Speaker 1: I think more. I think because I think because the

898
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Speaker 1: conversation will be so novel that it's going to give

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Speaker 1: us almost too much to talk about. Because well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the driving force of conversation, as far as I can tell,

901
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 1: in college football, is the hypothetical. It's who hypothetically deserves

902
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: to be in the playoff, who hypothetically deserves to be

903
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Speaker 1: fired and replaced by some other hypothetical coach, who hypothetically

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Speaker 1: deserves to win the Heisman, who hypothetically is overrated or underrated,

905
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Speaker 1: who hypothetically has the best recruiting class going into this

906
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Speaker 1: next year. So much of that is hypothetical. And the

907
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: fact is, if we're cutting seasons in half ish, then

908
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Speaker 1: we are. There's so much more conversation to be had

909
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: if all of a sudden, USC doesn't play Oregon, if

910
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: Penn State doesn't play Ohio State, if Florida doesn't play Georgia,

911
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: stuff like that that. I love the fact that we

912
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Speaker 1: can throw something out like, oh yeah, Florida's definitely better

913
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Speaker 1: than Georgia this year, and there's no way for anybody

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Speaker 1: because perhaps they really don't have an overlapping schedule. We

915
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna be able to make up takes and

916
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna be able to prove us wrong. It's gonna

917
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Speaker 1: drive people wild.

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Speaker 2: I love this. It's also not lost to me that

919
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Speaker 2: this is how you get Clay Hilton another year at USC.

920
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: This might be the only way.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I guess who guess who USC is not going

922
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Speaker 1: to play now. The Alabama Crimson.

923
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Speaker 2: Tide to one not happening, right, throw a huge.

924
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Speaker 1: Win for Clay Heilton. Clay Helton just won the Alabama game.

925
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Speaker 1: Congrats Coach Helton.

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Speaker 2: I am if we're going to have a season this fall,

927
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Speaker 2: if they can conduct it safely and responsibly and all that,

928
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Speaker 2: I am hope being that they go full wild West

929
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Speaker 2: with it, and that situations like the one we tried

930
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Speaker 2: to describe, you know, a bit half jokingly, but I

931
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Speaker 2: just if they're going to try it this fall, I

932
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Speaker 2: think all options have to be on the table, and

933
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Speaker 2: you know, let's have it be one big exhibition season.

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Speaker 1: You want to look at it together. I want to

935
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Speaker 1: look at right now. I'm looking this up on my

936
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Speaker 1: phone because I don't trust my computer to do things correctly,

937
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Speaker 1: because I have a very fraught relationship with my MacBook

938
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Speaker 1: Air and my audio equipment. But I'm looking at week four.

939
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Speaker 1: Who has the roughest opening conference schedule? I know teams

940
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Speaker 1: will start playing conference schedules earlier than September, late September

941
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Speaker 1: based on their schedules, but week four, okay.

942
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Speaker 2: Looking for the hardest, the hardest Week four?

943
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the hardest Week four for a team to just

944
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Speaker 1: be thrust into their conference schedule. If our schedule is

945
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Speaker 1: being aligned that way.

946
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Speaker 2: Well, so, I mean LSU is going to happen Michigan Wisconsin.

947
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Speaker 2: LSU has all missed Michigan Wisconsin. What else do we

948
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Speaker 2: got here?

949
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: A and M has new look Arkansas hypothetically in Arlington, Texas,

950
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Speaker 1: Arizona State at USC that's tricky. Florida Tennessee just could

951
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: really be an interesting season, couldn't it. Yeah, I mean

952
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Speaker 1: there are certain teams. Obviously we've already mentioned Washington, Michigan,

953
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 1: in Alabama, USC where you're thrust into a major game

954
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Speaker 1: week one, so basically more teams having to experience that.

955
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Speaker 1: I think our true week one, if we get there,

956
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Speaker 1: fingers crossed, our true week one, even if it's pushed

957
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Speaker 1: to October. First, the fact that we start college football

958
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Speaker 1: with conference matchups, important conference matchups, even if it's a

959
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: seven week season, it's five games with two by weeks whatever.

960
00:53:54,600 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: That it's no flirtation, tie, it's no heavy petting, it's

961
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Speaker 1: just right into the action, immediately right into it. Yeah,

962
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Speaker 1: and I take that. I take week zero, Week one,

963
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Speaker 1: week two as a way to just sort of get

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Speaker 1: a little bit of momentum, to get used to the

965
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Speaker 1: Saturday grind and watching as much as possible and taking

966
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Speaker 1: notes and like, you know, I'm not in mid season

967
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Speaker 1: form until the mid season. If I'm just speaking for myself,

968
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Speaker 1: and that we're thrown into Michigan, Wisconsin, ASU, USC all

969
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: across the sport in the very first week of things.

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Speaker 1: We better stretch, We better stretch.

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Speaker 2: Maybe on a future show we could talk about what

972
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Speaker 2: happens to the Tony the Tiger, Sun Bull and the

973
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Speaker 2: Duke's Mayo Classic Bowl. But I think we're out of

974
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Speaker 2: time for today. Interesting show here this evening, say the

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