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Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all and shout out to Daniel Lauren for

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Speaker 1: a new theme song. This is episode sixteen of Native Lampire,

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Speaker 1: where we give you our breakdown of all things politics

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Speaker 1: and culture. We are your hosts, Tiffany Cross, Andrew Gillum

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Speaker 1: and I'm Angela Rye.

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Speaker 4: What's good, y'all?

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Speaker 5: Welcome home like that?

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Speaker 3: I love it?

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 5: Yes the tea, don't cross the tea.

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Speaker 4: Across the tea, but don't cross the wad.

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Speaker 5: Don't cross the tea the tea, but you want to.

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Speaker 1: I'm a strong five feet we stand on business.

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Speaker 4: I listen here well.

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Speaker 1: You know, as always, we want to thank all of

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Speaker 1: our loyal audience, and we thank y'all for every review,

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Speaker 1: for rating the podcast, for subscribing, for downloading, for following,

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Speaker 1: for doing all the things, for fighting us on social

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Speaker 1: media as you all like to do. We appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of that. And you know, we got some places to go.

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Speaker 1: I want to start someplace a little solemn today on

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Speaker 1: the other side of losing Donald Payne Junior, who's an

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Speaker 1: elected member of Congress, who I love, one of my

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Speaker 1: forever CBC bosses.

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Speaker 4: You left us too soon, and your legacy will be

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Speaker 4: a remember forever.

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Speaker 1: So everybody on today's episode, Louisiana is out here. Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: The State House just repealed a law that required child

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Speaker 1: workers to get d DA DA lunch breaks. Louisiana state

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Speaker 1: representative and owner of Smoothie King franchises says he proposed

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Speaker 1: the bill because children want to work without having to

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Speaker 1: take lunch breaks. Oh okay, So the President signed a

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Speaker 1: ninety five billion dollar for an aid package for Ukraine, Israel,

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Speaker 1: and Taiwan into law. It also included that major nationwide

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Speaker 1: TikTok band that they snuck into that package. And TikTok

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Speaker 1: has nine months, not nine minutes, has nine months to

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Speaker 1: respond and divest from its China based parent company. But

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Speaker 1: they said, hoh my beer. They want to sue first.

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Speaker 1: I guess all branches of government are busy this week

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Speaker 1: with tiff level say it with me, Tiff nonsense, nonsense,

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Speaker 1: because the Supreme Court hurt a case that could mean

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Speaker 1: major consequences for the unhoused on a national level. The

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Speaker 1: case comes out of Grant's Past, Oregon, where it's illegal

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Speaker 1: to sleep in public spaces. A Ninth Circuit court struck

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Speaker 1: down the law as unconstitutional, and now Scotus must decide

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Speaker 1: whether they can make it illegal to sleep outside if

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Speaker 1: they have a choice to be somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: And today the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear arguments on presidential community criminal presidential immunity. While

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Speaker 1: the Court has already decided on civil immunity with Richard Nixon.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's legal argument would be to extend civil immunity

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Speaker 1: to criminal And of course there's no president for this,

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Speaker 1: because we only have had one thuggish, ruggish bone unprecedented president.

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Speaker 1: And yes, Trump has said unprecedented y'all we don't trust

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Speaker 1: the system, right right, Okay, Tiff is on the fences.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, well I didn't know. I didn't get no, amen,

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Speaker 6: Didn't want to.

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Speaker 5: I was waiting to see what the second part of

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Speaker 1: But for the record, she was worried about she should be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, And then y'all think it's been hard on us? Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yes, now, I said us.

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Speaker 1: So I just want to know when in the entire

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Speaker 1: hell us started including Donald Trump, because I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: he is them. But we're going to ask the blacks,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, that's us. We're the blacks. We are

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Speaker 1: that focus group. So y'all stay tuned for that very partial,

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Speaker 1: yet persuasive focus group. We'll also brag on some Trump

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Speaker 1: trial updates and what do Google more House, NYU, Columbia,

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Speaker 1: and Yale have in common? They rich, they tug, and

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Speaker 1: we have a very very important Justice for Marilyn Moseby update.

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Speaker 1: And you know it's not home if we don't hear

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Speaker 1: from the NLP fan so count on it.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, Okay, Tiff and Andrews.

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Speaker 1: So this week, I know it's TIFF's favorite subject, but

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Speaker 4: We you're talking Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: We are talking what has been named the hush money trial,

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Speaker 1: but is actually the falsifying business records in the first

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Speaker 4: There have been some updates.

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Speaker 1: From gag orders to David Pecker's testimony, and I think

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Speaker 1: that what's really important here is we've got a perspective

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Speaker 4: Hear everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: So I love for us to talk about briefly our

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Speaker 4: I'll say a little more.

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Speaker 3: I'll say a little more.

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Speaker 4: I mean, y'all were to sound. We all had no

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Speaker 4: sound from this trout. I ain't no sound from this trout.

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Speaker 5: And I'll let you there was some sound. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think we need to plan on this show. But

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Speaker 5: I do like what Mitt Romney said when he came

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Speaker 5: all gotten to see a testament of Donald Trump's character.

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Speaker 5: And you don't pay somebody one hundred thirty thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: But I think that sums it up well.

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Speaker 3: It's surprising that he paid the man. I mean that's

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Speaker 3: the one. This is the piece of Donald Trump's reputation.

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Speaker 3: Of course that Hillary Clinton pointed out several times. She

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Speaker 3: even went to New Jersey at one of his clothesed casinos,

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Speaker 3: because the man doesn't pay his bills. But in this instance,

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Speaker 3: first of all, last week we talked on the show

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Speaker 3: They told me to write it down as a campaign,

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Speaker 3: So he said, admitted to having done it. What I

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Speaker 3: found stunning was the admission by the National Inquirer, yes,

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Speaker 3: and then stories where they have legit red meat dirt

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Speaker 3: could actually sell more papers. So, when they were asked

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Speaker 3: mister Pecker, No, it was not in our interests. Which

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Speaker 3: is what goes to the heart of this case, which

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Speaker 3: first place, is that he used resources, could have bought

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Speaker 3: for him to do himself, but he went through his lawyer.

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Speaker 3: They tried to off escape, they tried subterfuge, they tried secrecy,

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Speaker 5: Well, I think a phrase that you hear a lot

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Speaker 5: people understand what that is. That is when an entity,

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Speaker 5: you know is an ethical in journalism. That's why people right,

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Speaker 5: and it's important to draw that distinction, right, because they

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Speaker 5: and then kill the story. And that's what happened here.

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Speaker 5: I think it's also important to note who reads the

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Speaker 5: National Inquirer. These were people who were more likely to

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Speaker 5: vote for Donald Trump. These are people who forgive the

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Speaker 5: elitist nature of this comment, but these were people who

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Speaker 5: I dare say were not the most intellectually curious if

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Speaker 5: you're going to the National Inquirer for your news. And

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Speaker 5: this is how we hear from our latest star. Last

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Speaker 5: week we talked a bit about Stormy Daniels. This week

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Speaker 5: we're hearing another old name uh makes all these charges

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Speaker 5: talking about while she was a side chick, she met

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Speaker 5: and the weird stuff that she said. He said to her.

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Speaker 5: beautiful like his dog. This weird, crazy, creepy stuff, and

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Speaker 5: so to me, regardless of the outcome of this case,

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Speaker 5: it really does put before the American people. This is

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Speaker 5: the kind of person that seventy five million, mostly white

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Speaker 5: to say the quiet part out loud. He allows them

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Speaker 5: As the demographics of this country change, they would rather

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Speaker 5: distributed among the American body politic, which is a patchwork

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Speaker 5: I know, Angela, I'll go ahead, No, go ahead, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: So Tiff. At least, at least none of us are

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Speaker 3: confused about why it is they keep showing up for

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Speaker 3: this man. This is yes, changing demographics, This is about power,

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Speaker 3: and I just think none of us should ever forget

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Speaker 3: what's at game here, even the ability for a man

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Speaker 4: Keelled, how about that?

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Speaker 3: Get other stories that are not fact based whatsoever? Put

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Speaker 3: in the cycle. And the one thing about you know,

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Speaker 3: tabloids or tabloids, but some tabloids end up entering into

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Speaker 3: that's the power that this man had, and and Trump

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Speaker 3: zeroed in on it and took it for a ride.

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Speaker 5: Inside Edition said we were the outlet that everybody made

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Speaker 5: fun of, and then the cable news outlets became.

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Speaker 4: Lord, how about that? So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: So David Pecker, as Tiff described, talked about this twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen arrangement he had with Donald Trump. But more over,

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Speaker 1: which you just said, Tiff, which I think is really

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Speaker 1: important to our listening audience, is Donald Trump has had

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Speaker 1: the ability to say the quiet part out loud. However,

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Speaker 3: So I wonder I think part of the distinction Tiff

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Speaker 3: Take that are individual. And this is the line this

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Speaker 3: In this, man is basically saying, if I'm president is

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Speaker 1: Tip to your point, You're like, there there is no case.

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Speaker 3: Look, why do you have to lose? You're living in poverty,

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Speaker 7: Fifty eight percent of your youth is unemployed.

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Speaker 3: What the hell do you have to lose?

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Speaker 7: The black people are so much on my side now

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Speaker 7: It's incredible. You see black people walking around with my

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Speaker 1: That is the question that is before the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 5: I'll be brief because I want us to get off Trump,

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Speaker 5: atmosphere every day, be it tweet or you know, some

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Speaker 5: press conference he would hold. The disappointing part of this

441
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Speaker 5: is I think the lowest common denominator among us echoing

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Speaker 5: this message. And Angelae you said family talk, but the

443
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: thing is this was not family talk. This was somebody

444
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: going outside of family carrying the water for this half

445
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 5: witted politically inept president and carrying this message to people.

446
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Speaker 5: And I don't believe the people who say this would

447
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Speaker 5: ever say that to family. I think you say something

448
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: like that to get the adoration of white people, to

449
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 5: get the Ada boy from white people, and it just

450
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Speaker 5: I think makes people who are out there saying these

451
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Speaker 5: ignorant things. It makes you look like the small person

452
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Speaker 5: that you are. And I don't even mean in height

453
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Speaker 5: or stature, I mean in intellect and intelligence. And I

454
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Speaker 5: expect ignorance from some people. I'm not remotely interested in

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Speaker 5: somebody's political opinions on a large platform. You're tax paying citizen,

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Speaker 5: You have a right to vote, and you have a

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Speaker 5: right to your opinion. I just don't really care about it.

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Speaker 5: The disappointment I feel is when members of the media

459
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Speaker 5: elevate certain voices who really have no business weighing in

460
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Speaker 5: on such things. And I think that only happens within

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Speaker 5: our community. I can't remember somebody asking a white sports

462
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Speaker 5: commentator to weigh in on foreign policy or domestic policy,

463
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Speaker 5: and it just drives me a little nuts. So I

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Speaker 5: would just challenge the media, maybe do a little background

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Speaker 5: and consider who you're putting out there, and if you're

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Speaker 5: finding somebody that makes white people comfortable, then you're probably

467
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Speaker 5: you have the wrong voice.

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Speaker 3: If I take slight departure and I hear where you're

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Speaker 3: coming from, just on this piece around the resonance of

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Speaker 3: a mugshot and his tangling with the criminal justice system,

471
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Speaker 3: of the justice system so publicly in the way that

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Speaker 3: he has of late, and what residents that may have

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Speaker 3: with some black folk. Some of the names that we're

474
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Speaker 3: not going to check. Some of the black folks Angela

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Speaker 3: you're alluding to who have given audience to this, who've

476
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Speaker 3: echoed this belief that he know us a little better

477
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Speaker 3: because he's gone through what we've gone through, are legit folks.

478
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Speaker 3: And I don't think they're just making it up. I

479
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: think they think that man, seeing this guy go through

480
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Speaker 3: this kind of lets them see out loud that white

481
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Speaker 3: people go through it too.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: Let's be clear, first of all, white folks have always

484
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Speaker 3: been entangled in the criminal justice system. They pre existed us.

485
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Speaker 3: We were property they you know, So that part is

486
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Speaker 3: not new. What is new here is obviously the way

487
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Speaker 3: he's trying to play us. I get that it would

488
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Speaker 3: be nice and relatable to have a president who has

489
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Speaker 3: some shared experiences, but let's not get it twisted. Trump

490
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Speaker 3: does not share our experience in any way, shape or

491
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Speaker 3: form as it relates to how black people encounter the

492
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Speaker 3: criminal justice system and how powerful white men I e.

493
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, encounter this system. And I feel this personally

494
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Speaker 3: because I've been there when I was accused and guided

495
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Speaker 3: and I had to surrender myself to the government a

496
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Speaker 3: day I will never forget, one that will live in

497
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Speaker 3: infamy for me. I showed up, and first things first

498
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: is I had to take a mug shot. When Donald

499
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: Trump showed up in New York for Alvin Bragg. There

500
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: was a fingerprint he was handed his indictment, but there

501
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 3: was never a mug shot. The next thing that I

502
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Speaker 3: had to do was I got handcuffed not only by

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Speaker 3: my wrists, but then by a chain running down to

504
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Speaker 3: my waist, and then a chain around my waist, and

505
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: from my waist a chain going down to both my

506
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Speaker 3: left and my right foot with two more handcuffs, and

507
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: I had to walk at the distance of a baby's

508
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: legs with because that's how constrained I was. Right, So

509
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 3: Donald Trump didn't have a handcuff on him. Let's get

510
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: that correct, and hadn't had one in any of the

511
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: surrendering that he's had to do around any of these cases.

512
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Speaker 3: When I was accused, I lost a bank, I lost

513
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Speaker 3: American Express and four credit cards associated with him with

514
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Speaker 3: a near eight hundred credit score. While Donald Trump, who

515
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: isn't just a que but was found responsible liable five

516
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: hundred plus million dollars, he got to pay and he

517
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: didn't lose nothing. He went and got two hundred almost

518
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: two hundred million dollars secured to back him up. So

519
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: while he goes through appeal, right, that didn't happen for us,

520
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: didn't happen for me. I lost it, Yet this man

521
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: so so for money he legitimately owes. I was just accused. Right,

522
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: we beat their asses, and in his case, I think

523
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 3: he's going down. My only point here is, do not

524
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Speaker 3: get it twisted just because the man is purping like

525
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: he has a relationship and understands our plight. One, you

526
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 3: misunderstand us. One because all of us don't have that

527
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: lived experience. Number Two, you misunderstand us, and actually you're

528
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Speaker 3: not trying to understand us, because this is never about

529
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Speaker 3: a system. It's always about Donald Trump. This is not

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Speaker 3: about how people are treated in the criminal justice system.

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Speaker 3: This is about how Donald Trump is being treated in

532
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Speaker 3: the criminal justice system. His level of privilege, no matter

533
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Speaker 3: how why he is, is not privileged that I would

534
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: believe is extended to all white folks. It is extended

535
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Speaker 3: to him at his level of power and influence. And

536
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: his grievance is only with the way he's being treated.

537
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: He is not dismantling a system for the corruption of

538
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: a system. He wants to dismantle a system, but because

539
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: of the way in which he has been treated in

540
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Speaker 3: that system, not because how you and I fare in

541
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Speaker 3: that system. He can't even dream of how to relate

542
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: to a criminal justice system that treats him the way

543
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Speaker 3: it treats us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's a word.

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Speaker 1: It is such a word. And Andrew, I thank you

546
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Speaker 1: for your vulnerability and sharing it. I think that it

547
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Speaker 1: has been a point of privilege for us to have

548
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Speaker 1: you free.

549
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Speaker 5: Some started. He's getting some started.

550
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Speaker 4: But like it didn't have it didn't have to be

551
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Speaker 4: that way.

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Speaker 1: Like the thing that is so alarming and unnerving about

553
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Speaker 1: what he's saying is it literally is a slap in

554
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Speaker 1: the face for everyone who is fighting with everything they have,

555
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Speaker 1: with every dime they have with every ounce of energy

556
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Speaker 1: they have as they contemplate whether they should be here

557
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: or not. That is a completely different battle that he

558
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: has never faced, that he has no idea about. So

559
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: any moment, in any moment where we are, you know,

560
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Speaker 1: kind of confused, Like something that he's saying sounds right,

561
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Speaker 1: the unjust system sounds right.

562
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Speaker 4: It rings true to me. I want you to take.

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Speaker 1: A moment to tap in with someone who has experienced

564
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Speaker 1: the other side of the criminal justice system and ask

565
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Speaker 1: them what their journey was like, because it didn't look

566
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Speaker 1: like his.

567
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Speaker 4: That is the part for me.

568
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Speaker 1: And as much as like I'm tired of talking about

569
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Speaker 1: him too, Tim, I think that we have an.

570
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Speaker 4: Obligation to our people to just take a beat.

571
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Speaker 1: Sometimes and remind us all why what he says is

572
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Speaker 1: so triggering, why it is both infuriating because we know

573
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: what he means and what our experience is and how

574
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: he's using it to juxtapose it against and lean up

575
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Speaker 1: against our actual struggle fake in the face of a

576
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: fake foe struggle, Like how dare you use what our

577
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: people have been through, how they've sacrificed their lives for righteousness,

578
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: for justice and throw that in our faces as you

579
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: are like able to just escape scott free all the time,

580
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Speaker 1: you know, like that.

581
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Speaker 4: Is the part for me.

582
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Speaker 1: And so I just want to tap in with my

583
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: brother for a minute to say I am so glad

584
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: that you leaned on faith and you leaned into courage

585
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: and you were able to take this on and you

586
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: were successful. That is not always our testimony, you know,

587
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: it is one in a million, Andrew like, normally the

588
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: FEDS prosecute, the FEDS win, They bank on that and

589
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: even when it is false, when it is wrongful, and

590
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not, you don't get eighty eight indictments

591
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: wrong at every level of government.

592
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: That just don't happen.

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Speaker 5: Well, can I just tap in on something because I

594
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: hear you Angela about talking about Trump. I just think

595
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 5: you know what we get to do here is have

596
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: a different lens that you don't hear on cable news.

597
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 5: But we are also overlooking news. You know, there was

598
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Speaker 5: a piece in the New York Times this morning right

599
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: on target what we're talking about about the disproportionate number

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Speaker 5: of botched executions that impact black men directly. This man

601
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 5: is not worried. Donald Trump is not worried about that

602
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 5: is not his life. That's not his testimony. Andrew, your

603
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 5: testimony is harrowing, for sure. There's also testimony of people

604
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: who had swat crashed through their house, break open their windows,

605
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: harm their children from their mothers, their daughter, the you know,

606
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 5: red dog police teams in Atlanta, and with what they did,

607
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 5: and then the name of justice of targeting parents who

608
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: lost children. That is what our criminal justice system looks like.

609
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 5: So I just challenged the media at large to not

610
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: turn this into a reality show with wall to wall

611
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 5: coverage while overlooking things that can still speak to these issues,

612
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 5: but don't give him the attention that he soul craves

613
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 5: and desires.

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Speaker 3: And the media ain't interested in that larger narrative that

615
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: we're talking about, right they.

616
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Speaker 5: That's why Native landa.

617
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: Donald Trump ain't here for it either. And that's why

618
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 3: we have to as as as gut wrenching and mind

619
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Speaker 3: numbing it is to have to talk about this guy.

620
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: It's important because the story, if we allowed his story

621
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Speaker 3: and his his his his embrace of us to go

622
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: unchallenged just because it has a resemblance a very a

623
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: very shadowy resemblance. Because you threw criminal justice out there

624
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: in a mugshot that somehow you understand this thing, and

625
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: your point is well taken to the story. The harrowing

626
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: experiences of people go so deep, so many places within

627
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: our community with regards to our confrontation with law and

628
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 3: justice and our mistrust of it. That this like again,

629
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Speaker 3: just just know this man ain't he ain't even not

630
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: on the page. He ain't in the book. He's not

631
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: in the book we're reading.

632
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Speaker 4: Well now, we just spend so much time on him.

633
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: To take a break, you know, y'all we got bills

634
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: to pay because, unlike Donald Trump, we can't escape this.

635
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: All right, Well, after much debate, we've decided that you're

636
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: also going to ban TikTok from our episode today. We

637
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: don't have enough time. Well, we're gonna talk about it,

638
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: and said, is HB to use? They don't always get

639
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: enough coverage?

640
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: And you are right, brother, I'm good.

641
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: You know you always always have children.

642
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: I love my niece and nephews, but Jesus always keeping.

643
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: My brother sick.

644
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was invited to deliver the commencement speech at

645
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Speaker 1: Morehouse College and it is being met with mixed reviews.

646
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Speaker 6: The timing is bad, I mean it would almost be

647
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 6: like inviting Linda Johnson to come and speak at Morehouse

648
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Speaker 6: at the height of the Vietnam War.

649
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Speaker 10: Mitchell is a civil rights attorney with the Council on

650
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Speaker 10: American Islamic Relations and is himself Muslim. He graduated from

651
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Speaker 10: Morehouse in two thousand and nine. Until speaking out against

652
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 10: justice is woven into the fabric of the Storage.

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Speaker 6: School, I do expect that there will be a vocal

654
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Speaker 6: outcry about this, But I do think in the spirit

655
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Speaker 6: of more House in the history moreuse, it will be respectful,

656
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Speaker 6: It'll be intelligent, it will be affected.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't expect anything less. But y'all, this is it

658
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Speaker 1: is interesting timing. And the most students, folks on the

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Speaker 1: faculty and alums have something to say about Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: delivering the commencement speech in the middle of what's happening

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Speaker 1: in Gaza.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think this is clearly a campaign ploy. I

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Speaker 5: think they are paying attention to. I believe the false

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Speaker 5: media narrative that Joe Biden is losing support among black men.

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Speaker 5: And I wonder if more House invited the President or

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Speaker 5: if the President offered Hiden.

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Speaker 4: In September, but he just he just said yes.

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Speaker 5: Which is but we don't think anybody from the well,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know. I don't eve want

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Speaker 5: to speculate.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I got an experience of what you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: I hear you right right, I mean I think you

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Speaker 5: know it benefits him, just for our listeners who may

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Speaker 5: not be as familiar with Morehouse. I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: very much is like the Ivy League of HBCU's previous speakers.

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Speaker 5: Wes Moore was a commencement speaker for black Governor of Maryland.

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Speaker 5: Raphael Warnock is a previous commencement speaker. We all remember

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Speaker 5: when billionaire Robert Smith was the commencement speaker and paid

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Speaker 5: off everybody loans. Yes, yes, President Obama spoke there in

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Speaker 5: twenty thirteen. So the young men who attend Morehouse College

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Speaker 5: are some of the best and the brightest. And that

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Speaker 5: some names you would know, Bacari Sellers, Mark Lamont Hill,

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Speaker 5: our friend Albert Sanders, he hates when I talk about him,

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Speaker 5: but I'll just say he went to Morehouse and Sirmichael Singleton, Republican.

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Speaker 5: You see him there. So they have a very Distinguishedst.

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Speaker 5: Martin Luther King of course went to Morehouse so I'll

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Speaker 5: be interested in hearing how President Biden connects with the students.

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Speaker 5: I think he has to be aware that it will

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Speaker 5: not be a completely warm reception. I think we can

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Speaker 5: expect anticipat seeing protests, and I wonder how those protests

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Speaker 5: will show up during his remarks. But this is something

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Speaker 5: that I have to say. We try to tell you

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Speaker 5: you cannot convince an oppressed people that other people are

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Speaker 5: not being oppressed. We are the best at recognizing it,

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Speaker 5: and so I I just I wonder what their plan is,

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Speaker 5: because this bridge is their domestic policy and foreign policy

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Speaker 5: that very few people support. I don't know. Angela is

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Speaker 5: so disgusted by it that she is slapping herself with

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Speaker 5: a face. She can't take it.

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Speaker 4: You emagine on my lip you didn't see that. It

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Speaker 4: was like a little fruit flap, like what the hell?

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Speaker 4: And it's like sticky.

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Speaker 5: I know that feel. I had that feeling when you

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Speaker 5: wearing them juicy tubes and you're like, what is laying

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Speaker 5: on my lip? I don't like is that that pete sparkles.

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Speaker 3: It's just best to ignore it when it happens. Just

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Speaker 3: literally not talking about that. I'm talking about when when

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Speaker 3: does what it does just be like, no, that didn't

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Speaker 3: go in.

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Speaker 5: There Ala this guy. So she was like this looks up.

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Speaker 5: She was beating herself in the base like Angela is passionate.

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Speaker 5: Please Angela, you say your remarks on this moral thing.

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Speaker 3: Tiffany, I think I agree. He's lucky that this is

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Speaker 3: morehouse in this since I think I think this will

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Speaker 3: be a very organized If there's a protest, it will

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Speaker 3: be it will be incredibly respectful. And I'll just say

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Speaker 3: I I think it will be a one reception overall

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Speaker 3: for him here because I think, yeah, because largely they're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about issues that confront black folks written

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Speaker 3: large and I think the White House probably didn't deeply

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Speaker 3: contemplate how international affairs might intersect with this visit. But

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Speaker 3: but but we know that it will. Speaking of people

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Speaker 3: who invited themselves, when I was stud by President fam

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Speaker 3: you Jeff Bush invited himself. Isn't known it is it

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Speaker 3: was said he was invited to be Famuse commencement speaker,

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Speaker 3: and no, the real story was he invited himself. Had

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Speaker 3: the president it would have been my graduation and of

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Speaker 3: course hail No, it wasn't innounced that student body president

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Speaker 3: that if Jeb Bush accepted the invitation to be Famus

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Speaker 3: commencement speaker, that the students of FAM you and the

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Speaker 3: grad led by the graduates would stand up, turn our

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Speaker 3: backs and walk out on him. It would have been hell.

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Speaker 4: Is he didn't he.

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Speaker 5: Just drop off the face of the earth.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as far as I can, he could fall

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Speaker 3: all the way off the earth. In that case, all

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 1: Is he means figuratively. For those of you that might

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Speaker 1: think that that's yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just you know, it all works. But but

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Speaker 3: I think they they have not really, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: fully appreciated how deep this this this divide is in

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Speaker 3: America generationally, particularly as a relation to the the Israeli

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Speaker 3: UH and Palestinian conflict. The folks here, young, Jewish, non Jewish, black, white,

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Speaker 3: everything in between. They they know right from wrong. And

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Speaker 3: when they see children, women, family spokes who did not

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Speaker 3: wage war, would not want for war. They just happen

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Speaker 3: to live in a war zone and are and are

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Speaker 3: living through that under the hostageship of Hamas every single

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Speaker 3: day in and outside of conflict with with with with

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Speaker 3: Israel for them to pay the price for the actions

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Speaker 3: of terrorists to the tune of some thirty plus thousand.

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Speaker 3: Now there's no humanity in that. That's right, and this

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Speaker 3: and this generation of folks is that they're like democrat,

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Speaker 3: I don't care who you are. Wrong's wrong, and we're

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Speaker 3: not down for this. Something's got to happen, something's got

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Speaker 3: to change.

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Speaker 5: And it's I mean everywhere.

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So, speaking of respectful and peaceful protests, students are speaking

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Speaker 1: of and they are loud, and they are clear. They

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Speaker 1: are not just online, they are on campus, you know,

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Speaker 1: speaking of respectful protests. What we know is the students

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Speaker 1: have something to say, especially on what's happening in Gaza.

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Speaker 1: There are it's not just more house. It's not just

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Speaker 1: on TikTok there's about to be banned potentially. It's not

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Speaker 1: just on social it's all over campuses throughout this country.

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Speaker 1: What's really been in the media lately are Columbia, mostly Yale, NYU, MIT,

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Speaker 1: University of Michigan, California State, Berkeley, and many others. And

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Speaker 1: what I think is so important is that folks are

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Speaker 1: kind of talking about this like student protests are.

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Speaker 4: In a vacuum. They've been largely peaceful.

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Speaker 1: Of course, There's been some conflicts, some folks on extreme

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Speaker 1: sides of the issue, but this is not new. Students

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Speaker 1: have been protesting on college campuses since the beginning of time.

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Speaker 1: Andrew just referenced his time as Student Government Association president

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Speaker 1: at FAMU. What he didn't say is he also was

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Speaker 1: protesting in the governor's office while at fam You.

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Speaker 3: Angeline, what's your best one? I ran for SJA president.

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Speaker 3: My opponent said, this is college. If gillim WINZ all

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Speaker 3: he gonna do is have us protesting. We're supposed to

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Speaker 3: have fun here too. It turns out you lost, you lost.

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Speaker 1: And on that they said, no, we're gonna use our

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Speaker 1: voices in the Student Activity Activities Fee to get what

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Speaker 1: we want. The Greensboro sit in in North Carolina A

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Speaker 1: and T Alabama State University back in the day at

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Speaker 1: Kent State students who protested the Vietnam War at FISK

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Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty five, they were students were protesting and

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Speaker 1: it ended in police entering their dorms and they were

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Speaker 1: you know, it's there are also some violent ends.

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Speaker 4: To this BLM.

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Speaker 1: We've seen women's rights, we've seen gun rights, we've seen

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Speaker 1: or gun.

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Speaker 4: Control, climate change, anti apartheid.

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Speaker 1: This has happened since the beginning of time, and testing

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Speaker 1: was at one point our right, and now students are

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Speaker 1: facing some very different kinds of threats, suspension, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of other things.

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Speaker 11: I empathize with individuals who feel uncomfortable with certain rhetoric, but.

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Speaker 9: I remind you that we live in a country and

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Speaker 9: we go to attending university that extremely values free speech,

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Speaker 9: open dialogue and.

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Speaker 4: Rhetoric, and I would encourage.

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Speaker 1: Everyone to listen to a variety of perspectives and to

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Speaker 1: analyze what it means to.

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Speaker 11: Not like something or disagree with something, versus to actively

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Speaker 11: be in a position of being unsafe.

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Speaker 1: You know what I think is so important about this

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Speaker 1: is what has often missed in narratives that I've read,

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Speaker 1: is the fact that this is a protest and a

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Speaker 1: moment and a movement really of solidarity between Jewish and

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Speaker 1: Palestinian people. What you see in that clip and hearing

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Speaker 1: that clip is a young woman, a young Jewish woman

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Speaker 1: on campus who's saying, I understand the inflammatory rhetoric. What

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about is our First Amendment right to peacefully assemble,

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Speaker 1: and that can include protest for whatever reason. What is

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Speaker 1: starting to happen now, and y'all have seen this is

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Speaker 1: anarchy is being conflated with anti Semitism, is being conflated

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Speaker 1: with protests, and I want to talk really about the

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Speaker 1: dangers of those things and how they are all separate.

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Speaker 1: If this young sister could stand here and say I'm

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Speaker 1: standing in solidarity with this because not on my watch,

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Speaker 1: why does her voice not matter? Is she herself an

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Speaker 1: anti Semite for standing with folks who are saying I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see innocent children and people killed because

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Speaker 1: of what Hamas has done in Israel and Gayza.

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Speaker 3: Right, and Hamas again a terrorist organization by the United

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Speaker 3: States who has overthrown pretty much the power of the

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Speaker 3: Palestinian authority, which is the actual governing body and leadership

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Speaker 3: over the Palestinian territory. Hamas a terrorist group who obviously

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Speaker 3: undertook those horrific murders and attack on Israel, which none

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Speaker 3: of us, not even the protesters at least, none of

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Speaker 3: the ones I've heard from and that I know, would

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Speaker 3: condone this is Angela. I'm so glad you're My big

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Speaker 3: frustration here is that it seems, if you are protesting

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Speaker 3: in humanity or war, that somehow that makes you anti

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Speaker 3: a group of people based off of their religion, the

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Speaker 3: color of their skin, their nation of ancestral or heritage.

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Speaker 3: It would be one thing if you were saying I

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Speaker 3: hate Israel and I hate Jews. That is antisemitic, that

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Speaker 3: is hateful, that is racis that is wrong. It is

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Speaker 3: another thing to say that you hate war or you

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Speaker 3: hate war and the consequences that are right now being

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Speaker 3: had havocked over the people, the innocent lives and the

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Speaker 3: Palestinian authority in Palestine. I don't mind referring to it

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Speaker 3: is that, even though it is not yet recognized, it

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Speaker 3: is fine in my opinion to be for in fact,

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Speaker 3: every one of us should be abhorring that kind of

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Speaker 3: loss of life, every single one of us. This is

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Speaker 3: what Governor DeSantis and Florida had to say the inmates

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Speaker 3: run the asylum, criticizing pro Palestinian protests happening on college

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Speaker 3: campuses in the state of Florida. He goes further to

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Speaker 3: say students should be expelled for protests and if you

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Speaker 3: are at a university here in the United States on

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Speaker 3: a visa, that visa should be canceled by the government.

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Speaker 3: If you participate in protests. So just a quick note

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Speaker 3: for the governor and those who think like him. First

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Speaker 3: Amendment of the United States Congress shall make no laws

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Speaker 3: respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,

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Speaker 3: or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press,

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Speaker 3: or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and

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Speaker 3: to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. I

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Speaker 3: know that was boring text, but that is the Constitution

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Speaker 3: of the United States, the First Amendment. These people don't

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Speaker 3: even believe in the First Amendment when it runs county,

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Speaker 3: so when it runs counter to what it is that

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Speaker 3: they believe. And for y'all who keep talking smack trash

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Speaker 3: about protests interrupting your lives, if it ain't interrupting your lives,

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Speaker 3: it is likely not protests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's important for us to understand. Beyond

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Speaker 1: the college protests, there are also folks inside organizations, big

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Speaker 1: organizations like Google that also have taken history issue with

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Gaza. Some employees have protested an Israeli

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Speaker 1: contract of Google, and Google responded by terminating those who protested.

876
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Speaker 1: It's now more than fifty people who have been fired.

877
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: They're saying that Google is quote no place for politics,

878
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna fool me.

879
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 12: I was fired about a month ago.

880
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Speaker 5: This is Eddie Hatfield. He lost his job last month

881
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 5: after disrupting an Israeli tech conference that Google sponsored and.

882
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 8: I refuse to build technology that powers genocide. It was

883
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 8: sickening to see Google's name all over the walls of

884
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Speaker 8: that room while speakers come up and use genocidal, violent

885
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 8: language to refer to Palestinians. That room is a place

886
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 8: where they're making decisions about how this technology gets used,

887
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 8: but not everyone who's affected by those decisions is get

888
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 8: let's to have a voice in that room, that being

889
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 8: the people being bombed.

890
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Speaker 12: By AI systems in Gaza, people moving between checkpoints in

891
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Speaker 12: the West Bank and beyond. When when this technology eventually

892
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Speaker 12: gets exported.

893
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Speaker 3: All over the world.

894
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't I think that we really are

895
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Speaker 1: at this interesting crossroads where and you know those moments

896
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Speaker 1: like when Congressman Barbara Lee was on the House floor

897
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Speaker 1: and she was the lull like the loan.

898
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Speaker 4: We were just.

899
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Speaker 5: Talking about that, you know, we were waiting, Yeah, we

900
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Speaker 5: were just talking about the courage of Barbara.

901
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like saying this is not the war and

902
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: then come to find out people are like what happens

903
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: in mass destrection?

904
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Speaker 4: Where are they?

905
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Speaker 1: You don't want to find yourself on the wrong side

906
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Speaker 1: of history. There are are student protests again from the

907
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Speaker 1: beginning of time, trying to ensure that we never betray

908
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Speaker 1: our moral compass in this country. Where will we stand

909
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: even in tough times? Where where were we stand on courage?

910
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: Where we stand when we see what what folks are

911
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: up with against? You know, these young people dying, these

912
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: innocent people dying, starving, can't make it to hospitals, don't

913
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Speaker 1: know how they're going to see their next where they're

914
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Speaker 1: going to see their next meal?

915
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: Like this is a really I don't know. I think

916
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: that the way that this is.

917
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: Being handled, both in corporate and on college campuses is

918
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: just wrong.

919
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 5: But the root of the problem is is our foreign policy.

920
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 5: You know, what we are seeing take place in Gaza

921
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: is collective punishment. You know, it is hard for you

922
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Speaker 5: to try to convince me it's not. That is an

923
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Speaker 5: international war crime. Mark Lamont Hill have to give it

924
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Speaker 5: to them. He did an amazing interview on Al Jazeera

925
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 5: where he was really cornering government officials saying, but you

926
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 5: are punishing all these people. We've seen grandmothers, grandmother's with

927
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Speaker 5: their hands up like this, shot dead. We've seen children

928
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 5: and starving, a mother holding her two year old. Biden said,

929
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Speaker 5: if they kill Americans, then we have an issue. Well,

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00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 5: they've killed Americans. We have crossed that red line at

931
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Speaker 5: this point. And I don't think American life is any

932
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Speaker 5: more valuable than Palestinian life. We are seeing murder. We

933
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 5: are seeing murder, and we have to start calling it

934
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Speaker 5: what it is. And I see time and again on

935
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Speaker 5: media interviews with a lot of young Jewish students who

936
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Speaker 5: are on another side of the divide and saying, yes,

937
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: it is anti Semitism, and we're, you know, on the

938
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Speaker 5: receiving end of this, And my thought is I get

939
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 5: so angry you got I mean really to the point

940
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Speaker 5: where it crushes my mental health for today, where I

941
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Speaker 5: find myself consumed by it, because I want to shout

942
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 5: where the are the Palestinian students who are harassed every day,

943
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 5: the Muslims who are harassed, the policies that impact them,

944
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: And if you just put out one voice, you might

945
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: start to think, oh, all these Jewish students are getting harassed.

946
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: You never hear from the Jewish students on the other

947
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 5: side who are saying, hey, we stand in solidarity with you.

948
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 5: We don't support what's happening over there. So Mike push

949
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Speaker 5: to young.

950
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: Young her out there today.

951
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: Thank you Angela for planning that sound bite. And that's

952
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 5: why Native Land exists because you will hear. And thank

953
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 5: you Nick, our producer, Nick, Thank you first show that

954
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: other side because you don't see it happen all the time.

955
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 5: And so my advice. First, I want to say kudos

956
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 5: to this young man at Google, and kudos to everybody

957
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 5: out there making their voices heard. Kudos to the people

958
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 5: at the Columbia Daily Spectator, the Young j School students there,

959
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 5: you know jeln and Cobb dean of the Jay School

960
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 5: over there, who tweeted out if you're being denied access,

961
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 5: you know, DM me, I'll make sure the press has access.

962
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 5: Bear witness, tell your story, speak out. Don't be the

963
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 5: last person to speak out, you know, don't be the

964
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 5: last person when it becomes cool to say, oh, this

965
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 5: is a problem, like you have skin in the game,

966
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 5: and right now this machine that silences you, that says

967
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Speaker 5: you have a different point of view being run. But

968
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: we don't have time to get into it. But I

969
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: want people to look at net and Yahoo's cabinet. I

970
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 5: want you to look at the backgrounds of the people

971
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: that this man is empowered. Look at his own record,

972
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 5: the way he disrespected the United States during Obama's administration,

973
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 5: the way he disrespects President Biden to this day, the

974
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: way that Israeli's are calling on his resignation. To Angelo's point,

975
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 5: we cannot conflate protest with anarchy or.

976
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 4: Or the Israeli government with Jewish the same thing.

977
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: It's not the same.

978
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: It's so dangerous, it is so dangerous, it is so harmful.

979
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: We are not anti Semitic, because we are not going

980
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: to support that. The the white supremacist Israeli government like that.

981
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 4: We have to make a.

982
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: Decision government correct. A man who had intelligence, by the way,

983
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: plenty of it prior to the seventh prior to could

984
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: have helped, could have prevented right what occurred on that day,

985
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: could have extracted even more hostages up to this point,

986
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 3: which is what the families are calling for. Bring our

987
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: loved ones home. But he has assuaged. He's sidestepped bringing

988
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: home hostages so that he can continue to persecute, an

989
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 3: un unhumane war to annihilate a group of people, right,

990
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: he wants to extinguish. And what bothers me the most

991
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: is that folks are making no distinction between the terrorists

992
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 3: of Hamas and the people of I said Palestinian authority before,

993
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 3: because that's the governing body, But of the people of

994
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 3: Palestine yet to be named, who are just living their lives,

995
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: or at least trying to Jose undressed in his group,

996
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 3: who had clearly labeled vehicles that they were there for

997
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 3: humanitarian purposes, who had coordinated their movements with the Israeli

998
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: Defense ministry, who had three vehicles systematically taken out in

999
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: innocent people who were just trying to feed starving people

1000
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 3: in Gaza killed. Right, there's nothing which way around this way,

1001
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: this word, in the way it is being persecuted, that

1002
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: is right. And I'm so sick of people telling us

1003
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 3: in anniversary and memorials, never again, never again, this never again,

1004
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: for we shit idly by, never again what we watch

1005
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 3: as such and such happens, never again. Well we're at

1006
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: it again. We're at it again. And in this package,

1007
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: we are sending a billion in an aid for the

1008
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: people of Gaza and multiple.

1009
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Billions and weapons seventeen, multiple millions, and we thank you,

1010
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: thank you making it makes sense.

1011
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense, and I don't want your thoughts,

1012
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: prayers and all that other stuff. And years later your

1013
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 3: memos and memoirs that say, the biggest regret I have

1014
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 3: was that we didn't do more to save innocent life.

1015
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we know said that before.

1016
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: Of course, isation happens. You know this is this is

1017
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: how that happens. And I think you know this is

1018
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: a conversation that we're going to can We know that

1019
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: it's risky for us to talk about it, but we

1020
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: know what's riskier is not being able to sleep at night,

1021
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: being on the wrong side of history, knowing what it's

1022
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: like to be an oppressed people. If we can stand

1023
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: in solidarity with these folks to say, you know what,

1024
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: not on our watch. We're going to talk about it

1025
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: here every week if we can.

1026
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: And Angela, I know you're rapping, but I just we

1027
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 3: also as Americans have to acknowledge what our documents are founding,

1028
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: what we believe in our nerve, heart and sin you,

1029
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 3: which is even if I don't agree with you, in

1030
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: a democracy, I still have to stand and protect your

1031
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: ability to say what it is that you think. And

1032
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 3: simply because we disagree with each other, we want to

1033
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: squash out free opinion, protest people's ability to peaceably assemble.

1034
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 3: And I've got too many Jewish friends, too many who

1035
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 3: I know to a fact would never ever, ever want

1036
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 3: to look back and be reflected in history as having

1037
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: stamped out free speech simply because we disagree.

1038
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Speaker 5: And just for this package, I just wanted to really

1039
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 5: drive his point home because I think Andrew you said it,

1040
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 5: but we kind of moved past it. This would be

1041
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 5: this package in like aid to Gaza and then weapons.

1042
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 5: It would be the equivalent of a foreign power sending

1043
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 5: a million dollars in aid to the enslaved while sending

1044
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 5: billions of weapons to the Confederacy. Come on, I think

1045
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 5: you cannot save me and kill me at the same time.

1046
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: You can't.

1047
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: It's impossible, and I don't know how your moral compass

1048
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: is telling you that's okay.

1049
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 3: So we and you can morally reject an assault on

1050
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 3: innocent people which occurred in Israel and could have been

1051
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: prevented by the horrible president, and at the same time

1052
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 3: you can decry inhumane and unjust war practices and tactics

1053
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: being waged against an innocent people.

1054
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 5: In fact, we.

1055
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: Must we uh, we definitely stand with and insolidarity with

1056
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the students on these campuses, with the workers who just

1057
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: want to be heard at Google.

1058
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 4: And we'll be right back after this break.

1059
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: Well come, well come, well come, well come, well come, welcome.

1060
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: There's a gospel. So I don't know who's saying it,

1061
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 4: I'll fly away. Who did that? Was that haze Ky Walker?

1062
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: Now I don't know, but those movements were pretty hip

1063
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 3: hop fish.

1064
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 4: Oh it's too early, you know, it's two seconds.

1065
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 3: It was of the world.

1066
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: I remember there was a pastor that said, when you know, Kirk,

1067
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: go Jesus, go Jesu, let's go.

1068
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 4: To pass that. How you gonna tell Jesus to go?

1069
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 4: So there's always gonna be a reason for something.

1070
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, I'm talking about flying away because

1071
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: American is trying to restrict your ability to do just that.

1072
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 4: Can Airlines said, not on my watch.

1073
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: If you don't book on my app, called my customer service,

1074
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: that you might not be able to get through.

1075
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: You ain't getting no miles, which y'all think about that.

1076
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 5: First of all, I didn't know we were in the show.

1077
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: I thought we were just.

1078
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: Talking gospel song because that was a thinking about flying.

1079
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 4: And so you know how my brain works, I gotta

1080
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 4: always harken back to a song gospel.

1081
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: It up about to make the audience suffering gospel. So

1082
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: this is what I have to say about that. I

1083
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: just got off an American Airlines flight, so it's very

1084
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 5: apropos and timely. I'm so over these airlines. Okay, the

1085
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 5: three largest carriers in the United States sponsorship. I love

1086
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 5: American Airlines except for this really big problem I have

1087
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: right now. Except for this tiny little problem American Airlines. No,

1088
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 5: I think that the three largest carriers in the United

1089
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Speaker 5: States have turned a profit. You know, there were things

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Speaker 5: that happened during COVID where you know airlines because they

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Speaker 5: mishandled and misappropriated funds before that that they found themselves

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Speaker 5: with their pants down during COVID, and so everything was

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Speaker 5: tight and you know, people, you could fly to California

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Speaker 5: for twenty two dollars, you know, right, But now the

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Speaker 5: I think Q two last year, the second quarter of

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Speaker 5: last year, the airlines said hey, yes, we are seeing

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Speaker 5: profits now. American Airlines specifically said that passenger revenue from

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Speaker 5: international travel alone rose twenty two percent, so they can

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Speaker 5: certainly afford. I think some of these points. It's like

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Speaker 5: the seats are getting smaller, the planes are falling apart,

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Speaker 5: everything twice trading so that they are regulated. What body right,

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Speaker 5: I know they've gone before Congress. The FAA regulates them.

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Speaker 1: That would be second Terry Pete, under Secretary. The perfect

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Speaker 1: transportation is that fat mayor Pete Secretary Pete. We got

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Speaker 1: a thing to say because the song said, I looked

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Speaker 1: it up. It definitely as a car walker, I will

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Speaker 1: be free one day I'll fly away. I would like to,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if I'm being able to afford

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Speaker 1: these plane tickets, that's the thing. But they're saying, if

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Speaker 1: you can't get my anywhere, because sometimes I need to

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Speaker 1: use my mouth. Oh by the way, you guys, I

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Speaker 1: can't forgot to tell you no. Do you know somebody

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Speaker 1: hacked into my American Airlines count.

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Speaker 5: And no thousands of miles.

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Speaker 1: So not only am I now not gonna get miles

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Speaker 1: potentially from these new trips I booked, but they literally

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Speaker 1: it was like three different people. I should name them

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, But how was.

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Speaker 3: At first one.

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Speaker 1: I was literally not to book my god son a

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Speaker 1: ticket with my miles, and I was like, how.

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Speaker 5: Do I got I just want to say I apologize.

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Speaker 5: I needed to get the Turks and Caicos. I knew

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Speaker 5: Angela's American Airlines number and this was not you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to prove it. I'm going to pull this up.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: You know who did it because I looked it up

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Speaker 1: and then I just remember they told me I need

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Speaker 1: to file the police report.

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Speaker 5: And now now you don't know these people. No, how

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Speaker 5: did they get to your.

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Speaker 1: They had to tell my account somehow they had so

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Speaker 1: they changed, like my mileage number, you should, but they like,

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Speaker 1: send you Andrew.

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Speaker 4: This is so rude. It's not first world to need

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Speaker 4: your miles.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when it's to fly your cousin across the

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Speaker 3: country wind.

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Speaker 4: It's not my cousin, it's my godson.

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Speaker 3: Because most of most of the godsons who ain't in

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Speaker 3: first world problems are taking Greyhound across the countin.

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Speaker 4: And that's a lie.

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Speaker 1: Tell me the last time and tell you know what,

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Speaker 1: how long does it take to take the damn bus

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01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: from Tallahassee to LA Please tell me? Tell you when

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Speaker 1: the last time you was on a Greyhound bus.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I said, First of all, I didn't say I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't in it.

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Speaker 4: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: For those of you who have empathy and can understand

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be stolen from you, guys know

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: I have person no beef and trauma around people close

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Speaker 1: to me being but not only that.

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Speaker 4: Now it's the damn Rando's. I don't even know I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna name these people.

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Speaker 3: There's so much commercial.

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Speaker 4: I can't name the people. I don't know miles I know,

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Speaker 4: but I can say allegedly these people did.

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Speaker 5: It, okay, never mind assent attorney out of the practice

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Speaker 5: in l A law. I don't know if you can

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Speaker 5: say that.

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Speaker 4: If you know you're about to get anyway, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is, beginning in July, travelers will only

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Speaker 1: receive loyalty points and advantage miles if they book their

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Speaker 1: flights directly with American or what.

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Speaker 5: If you're doing on an American Express, if you do it.

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Speaker 1: Now, hold on your that's that's right. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that answer. We gotta find the answer. But Andrew,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the part that is first world.

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Speaker 1: You know how you can get your miles if you

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Speaker 1: book with a preferred travel agency.

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Speaker 4: Who's the preferred travel agency? So we need to see that.

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Speaker 5: Is our person a preferred travel agency.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not us, it's not us, but

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Speaker 1: that is first world. I don't appreciate you calling me

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Speaker 1: get my mile stolen.

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Speaker 4: First world.

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Speaker 1: I'm mad at you. Was already mad at you last

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Speaker 1: time about Katie. Now I'm mad at you about this,

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Speaker 1: and I apologize for showing out today.

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Speaker 4: I'm not apologiz.

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Speaker 3: The funny thing is that you apologizing to me for

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01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: going off of me. I'm like, you do it every

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Speaker 3: time we're tall.

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Speaker 1: That is at Andrew to tell him that's not true.

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Speaker 1: I don't be going off, no, brother, I normally am

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Speaker 1: on your side and I fight somebody.

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Speaker 4: Else about the public. Okay, tell me, tell me, give

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Speaker 4: me an example.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna move away acting like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: No no stories that that was unnecessary.

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Speaker 5: Well, so is this lie you telling that was unnecessary?

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Speaker 5: And I said I never say fake news on this podcast.

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01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 5: Well we have it anyway. I'm mad about the airlines thing.

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 5: I don't like. The airlines got to do better, Like

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Speaker 5: we spend a lot of money with these airlines, and

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Speaker 5: we as you know, the people who patroon these airlines

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Speaker 5: because we have to. How else are we going to

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Speaker 5: get across the country. I think as customers we deserve

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Speaker 5: a little more regard and respect. Nobody is getting on Greyhound,

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Speaker 5: Nobody was light red bus?

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Speaker 3: What that red bus?

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: What is red bus?

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Speaker 3: That's how the kids go home spring break? Every weekend.

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Speaker 3: They jump on the red bus. They got internet, they

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Speaker 3: go to Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sound that's like the fancy bus. I think

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Speaker 4: I have heard that New York bus.

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Speaker 5: The Hampton Jitney.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well, either way, this conversation is over.

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Speaker 3: Remember air trans Now back to the real world.

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Speaker 5: Air train you can fly fifty dollars each way.

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy you can make in front of

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Speaker 1: Spirit Airlines. I bet you they door and flowing offline.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere where I gotta fight you for seats?

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Speaker 4: You got seats. You gotta fight the plane to pack

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Speaker 4: toilet paper?

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Speaker 5: Are you paid for a c You ain't pay for

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01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:10,959
Speaker 5: no leg room.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So now we are gonna listen to comments.

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Speaker 1: We don't have questions. We have two comments from Native

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Speaker 1: Lamppod's audience. We are going to start with Mark, Hello.

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Speaker 9: Native lamb pod. My name is Mark Clemens' from Fairburg, Georgia,

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Speaker 9: originally from California. I'd like to address Kelsey Plum's statement

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Speaker 9: regarding the WNBA. She speaks about the w NBA and

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Speaker 9: the CBA. First off, there's really no collective bargaining to

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Speaker 9: be had there seeing that in twenty five years from

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Speaker 9: the inception of the WNBA, they've never turned a profit.

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Speaker 9: So if you want to be paid a fair salary,

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Speaker 9: then you're gonna have to generate income more than what

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Speaker 9: you're doing now. So what's needed. You need more people

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Speaker 9: watching your game. Without TV money, there's no way you're

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Speaker 9: going to add to the salaries. You need to think

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Speaker 9: about what could be done to add more people watching

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Speaker 9: your game instead of moaning and groaning about not being paid.

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Speaker 9: There's so many athletes that wish they were able to

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Speaker 9: go to a professional league where the WNBA is a

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Speaker 9: league for women. So Miss Kelsey Plumb, instead of whining,

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Speaker 9: let's come up with some ideas to create more people

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Speaker 9: watching your game that will add to TV money and

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Speaker 9: we'll add to your salaries. Thank you so much, have

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Speaker 9: great day.

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Speaker 5: I have to say thank you first of all for

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Speaker 5: sending in that comment, I have to say, I find

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Speaker 5: it incredibly disrespectful, and I can't imagine that he would

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Speaker 5: talk to a woman that way, although I or a

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Speaker 5: man that way, I should say I do again, though,

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Speaker 5: I want to make sure that we invite these comments.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate it, and we invite people who disagree with us. So, sir,

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Speaker 5: I actually hear you right. So I hear your point.

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 5: You clearly disagreed with Kelsey Plumb, and perhaps some of

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Speaker 5: our words following it up. I do think you suggesting

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Speaker 5: that Kelsey Plump is whining about not earning a fair wage.

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Speaker 5: I do find that language a bit disrespectful. The WNBA

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Speaker 5: brings in just two hundred million dollars annually, and so

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Speaker 5: they do rely on the NBA for some of their funding.

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Speaker 5: I think this young woman was well within her right

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Speaker 5: to say that they just want to benefit from the

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Speaker 5: profit that they do bring in. I hear you that, yes,

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Speaker 5: we should all start watching. And I believe the TV

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 5: deals and rights are up in twenty twenty five, so

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Speaker 5: they're actually negotiating those now. And I hope that the

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Speaker 5: WNBA is being heavily considered given how much excitement was

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Speaker 5: generated around them. But I would invite you and just

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Speaker 5: ask you respectfully to watch how we talk to young people,

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Speaker 5: young women in particular, who are demanding to earn a

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Speaker 5: fair and equitable wage. I don't know that I would

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Speaker 5: call that whining with all this respect to you, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I got slightly less respect than Tiff. I'm working on it.

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Speaker 4: God's not through with me yet.

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Speaker 1: I would just say, as a as a factual matter,

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Speaker 1: that there actually is a collective bargaining agreement with the

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Speaker 1: w n b A and we can move on to

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Speaker 1: the next statement.

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Speaker 4: But thank you, Marco.

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Speaker 1: Next time you'll consider weighing in uh and checking your

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Speaker 1: facts first.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say, where where do we ever blame?

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 3: Do we blame the flight attendants for the new policies

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 3: at American?

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 3: Do we do we the baggage chandler for a delta

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01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: because they had to get stimulus money during coches?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is the people who see it at

1286
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: the intersection of the impact are not always the ones

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 3: who are responsible for the cure. These women are getting

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: out there every single day, giving their heart, giving it all,

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01:10:55,320 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: leaving it all on the core and because big moneyed

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Speaker 3: interests to back basketball decide to invest more in the camera,

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Speaker 3: and then the person carrying the camera, and then the

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: technology of the facility for men's basketball sports, And therefore

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Speaker 3: when you look at certain women's games, it looks like

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01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: a throwback to the high school, not because of skill,

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: but because they didn't invest in how the thing gets

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01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 3: recorded and projected, the dynamics of it. And we've come

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Speaker 3: to expect that that's all that is asinine, except for

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Speaker 3: the fact that we don't necessarily need to blame the

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Speaker 3: people with the grievance for the structures that they have inherited.

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Speaker 3: We don't blame the slave for slavery.

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna blame you for this podcast running over,

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 4: So we don't go to the I'm done.

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Speaker 1: I'm ov y, Mark, send me a better comment next time.

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Speaker 1: Delete my comment too, No, don't delete it. We go

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Speaker 1: keep it in there.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Native lampod, I realized that I have the answer

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Speaker 11: to your question that you asked a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 11: What do we want our p s as to sound like?

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Speaker 11: What do we want our political ads?

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Speaker 3: That was the question, And.

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Speaker 11: It occurred to me that the ones that have been

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Speaker 11: most effective are when we get those mailers and they

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Speaker 11: have the the side by side comparisons of here's a question,

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Speaker 11: and then this candidate believes in this, This candidate believes this, this,

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Speaker 11: this candidate believes this. Reading the data like that is

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Speaker 11: what has been most effective. That's what I would like

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Speaker 11: the p s as to be, Like, there's the answer.

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Speaker 5: Okay, gotta go.

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Speaker 11: This is DONALDA from Florida the teacher.

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Speaker 3: Hi Andrew girl family, we can't ask questions already.

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Speaker 4: Turn out she was the bag.

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Speaker 5: It look healthy and full. I want to know your

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Speaker 5: whole regime, girl tag looks like But let.

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Speaker 4: Me tell you all this.

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Speaker 1: I I theoretically like the approach. Think that works for

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Speaker 1: a graphics ad. I don't know how well that would

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Speaker 1: work visually speaking through those things. I'm a visual learner,

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Speaker 1: so auditor. Hearing those comparisons to auditor at least probably

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Speaker 1: challenging for me.

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Speaker 5: No, but she's saying, as a mailer right on the.

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Speaker 3: Fly, most effective for her. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She was saying, using the mailer model for a p

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Speaker 1: s A or a political ad either.

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Speaker 5: I think if you do it in print or yeah,

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Speaker 5: but even if you did that and on social if

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Speaker 5: you did that as and as broadcasted ad I think

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Speaker 5: all of it works. I think for what she's saying, yeah,

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Speaker 5: just contrast. The problem is though, even that that that

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Speaker 5: opens people up to disinformation because you know people always say, oh,

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Speaker 5: this person uh supports you know, murdering babies. You know,

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Speaker 5: like people can can manipulate language and misinformation and disinformation

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Speaker 5: and start telling our folks to be like, site a source,

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Speaker 5: and when they cite the source, and that source be

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Speaker 5: like boo boo.

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Speaker 1: Toofood dot com. Yes you know it's not a reliable one.

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Speaker 1: We'll have TIV do a primer really soon on how

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Speaker 1: to know if a source it is a reliable primary

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Speaker 1: source or not, or if it came came for your

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Speaker 1: little cousin Rubu and them, are you heard, or.

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Speaker 5: Is some random video on YouTube? Like that's not a source.

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Speaker 5: I said that I can't remember if it was a

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Speaker 5: Native Land page or the other show across dinner reasons,

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Speaker 5: but I was saying, well, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Can you site your source? And the young lady responded,

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Speaker 5: cite my source.

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Speaker 1: This is Instagram, you said, And facts matter everywhere, darling.

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Speaker 4: So to that point, because facts matter.

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Speaker 1: And so does time, we are almost out of time today.

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Speaker 1: We will not end our show without having a call

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Speaker 1: to action segment, which of course is one of our favorites.

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Speaker 1: We do not like to talk without and leaving y'all

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Speaker 1: without anything to do.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna defer my time to you, friend, because

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Speaker 3: mins long.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, then I'm gonna take your time reclaiming your time.

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Speaker 1: I will say to you that we have received such

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Speaker 1: a wide and huge, loving response to our podcast about

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Speaker 1: Marilyn Moseby and what happened in her case. Since then,

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Speaker 1: we have been working diligently to figure out the best

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Speaker 1: ways to support Maryland. And one of the things that

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Speaker 1: became really really clear is that in order to ensure

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Speaker 1: that her case is heard from this administration, from the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration, is to ensure that we have a petition,

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Speaker 1: and so that petition is now live. Color of Change

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Speaker 1: has a platform called Organize for and you can find

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Speaker 1: Pardon for Mosby there.

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Speaker 4: We will have a QR code on our page.

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Speaker 1: We'll have links on our social pages as well as

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Speaker 1: in our podcast description for this episode, both on YouTube

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Speaker 1: for visuals and on audio on iHeart. And so we

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Speaker 1: hope that you will join us and signing that petition.

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Speaker 1: It is our honor, our greatest honor to host this

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Speaker 1: petition for our dear friend, a hero of ours and

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Speaker 1: someone whose legacy is all about righting the wrongs of

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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system, even some of the past from

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Speaker 1: the President himself. This gives them an opportunity to join

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Speaker 1: us in writing some of those wrongs and supporting Maryland

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Speaker 1: some of that incredible work, including the work she did

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Speaker 1: to stop prosecuting marijuana possession cases in Maryland. Testified, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: testified before the House and the Senate at Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 1: invitation on that robust and progressive policy. So if you're

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Speaker 1: standing on her shoulders to implement some of those policies,

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Speaker 1: perhaps you can stand with us and ensure that she's pardoned.

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Speaker 1: Maryland is facing forty years in prison. She is scheduled

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Speaker 1: to be sentenced on May twenty third, and we're hoping

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Speaker 1: that we can halt that by getting her pardoned as

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Speaker 1: she deserves.

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Speaker 3: You're here.

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Speaker 5: You shouldn't serve a single day day spending her money.

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Speaker 5: He literally did nothing. And now we'll just invite you

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Speaker 5: all to remember Andrew's testimony that he gave as a

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Speaker 5: mini pod, but also what he shared today that she

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Speaker 5: would be handcuffed. Cavity searched put in a maximum security

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Speaker 5: prison away from her two young daughters who she's raising,

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Speaker 5: and she stood on the front lines for us during

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Speaker 5: Freddie Gray and she said to young people, our time

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Speaker 5: is now, so to echo what Angel was saying, our

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Speaker 5: time is now to show up for Marylyn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, before we end the show, I want to remind

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