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Speaker 1: garbage for bridget two point oh. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan

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Speaker 1: Hanss and I am joined in a room filled with

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Speaker 1: what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? I like a lot

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Speaker 1: what Rick Holiday just did. Right there. We were gaping away,

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Speaker 1: but cannot You cannot turn back at that point, quick snap.

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Speaker 1: I didn't appreciate it. As the host. I had some

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Speaker 1: good to have it up. Curtain. Well, on the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: we say pull up the skirt and lift up, you know, inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: Let's close the kimono for a minute here. Yeah, nice,

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Speaker 1: Um by the way, something no jokes. Someone said this

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Speaker 1: to me Erica. I was speaking with a member of

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Speaker 1: feels in last year. Last year, it was before Erica

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Speaker 1: sometimes Dan, you gotta you gotta be able to separate

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Speaker 1: for your power ranking show when we're over there too.

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Speaker 1: so very much. I cry myself to sleep every night.

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Speaker 1: today's show. Uh, this is this is good, this is

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Speaker 1: hold the fort Ellipses or hold to but your butts.

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Speaker 1: Take it away by the Bear. Ha ha, Clinton Dix,

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Speaker 1: But you but we're close, but that doesn't you know,

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Speaker 1: he he's more comfortable with me, so he can get

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Speaker 1: away with saying, but I'm taking notes. You know, you

429
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Speaker 1: know there have been scandals that have been built on

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Speaker 1: smaller mode. It's not even it's not scandals, not scandalous.

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Speaker 1: I would it would be. It would be more interesting

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Speaker 1: if it was scandalous. He's like, that should be a

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Speaker 1: hyphen and matchup next next time, just f y I

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Speaker 1: And this is how Greg jokes around. He does the

435
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Speaker 1: same thing with Brasci. I mean, I think Eric is

436
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Speaker 1: worried that it's like apathy is taking has taken over

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Speaker 1: the relationships to anything. And yes, I've got to tell

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Speaker 1: you you're spelling errors on your sonop. You know when

439
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Speaker 1: you when you write our podcast thing and it looks

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Speaker 1: like a twelve year old wrote I'm trying to help

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Speaker 1: you out. I'm not sure she wanted that in the show. Well,

442
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Speaker 1: I don't write. I don't write the all of that

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Speaker 1: all the time too, So I will let the person

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Speaker 1: that was, Wow, you have shredded somebody hard leadership leadership

445
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Speaker 1: at taking the fall. Yes, but it is an adult

446
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Speaker 1: piecing those together in your department. Okay, you can write

447
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Speaker 1: match up without a hyphen like matchup is that I've

448
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Speaker 1: never said matchup once? I just said capitalize. It was easy. Yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: this is it's fertile ground. Let's explore this next week. Alright,

450
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Speaker 1: so listeners, you can track track this with you as

451
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Speaker 1: you listen as well. See how sure they will be

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Speaker 1: keep west and out of it. Please, thank you. I'm

453
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Speaker 1: you were all great boys. I can't wait to go

454
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Speaker 1: to go to London with you three. I'm really looking

455
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Speaker 1: forward to it. All right, And well, since I stuck

456
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Speaker 1: my nose in your business, do you want to plug

457
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Speaker 1: that podcast? Oh? Yeah, we're taping tonight the Justin, Nick

458
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Speaker 1: and Rosenthal Vanity Project on Apple podcast and all your

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Speaker 1: whatever what's it called throw podcast? The Human Sweat Plans.

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Speaker 1: Is that that's a good fantasy. Wow, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: get into its sa icon. Barkley has a high ankle sprain. Ah.

462
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Speaker 1: The only thing worse than Liz Frank is the high

463
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Speaker 1: ankle sprain. Uh. It's something that could linger and and

464
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Speaker 1: you never know how bad it is. It could be

465
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Speaker 1: something I cost you a few weeks, it could ruin

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Speaker 1: your whole season. That's what we're talking about. And see

467
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Speaker 1: Juan Barkley has that injury. Rap Sheet reported Monday that

468
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Speaker 1: Barkley is expected to be out four to six weeks

469
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Speaker 1: because of the injury. Pat Schurmer, the Giants coach, later

470
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Speaker 1: confirmed the injury, did not offer confirm the injury, but

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Speaker 1: did not offer a timetable for a return, And um, Greg,

472
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Speaker 1: you're good at this insider wars stuff. But notably, Adam Schefter,

473
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Speaker 1: the ESPN version of rap sheet UH set the timetable

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Speaker 1: UH closer to eight weeks. I think he said it

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Speaker 1: at four to eight weeks, with the more likely scenario

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Speaker 1: being closer to the UH deeper end of the pool

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Speaker 1: on that one sighting like I just said, the specifics

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Speaker 1: of the injury, it's it's a hard in really get

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Speaker 1: back from. Yeah, I think I think the NFL dot

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Speaker 1: com is saying that too. Tom Pauli Sero at least

481
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Speaker 1: after was he was really hinting strongly that it wouldn't

482
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Speaker 1: be until after the week eleven by that we'd see

483
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Speaker 1: him again. I also think that Giants and teams are

484
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Speaker 1: strategic in the way they put these out there because

485
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Speaker 1: they never want to put the player in a bad

486
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Speaker 1: position where he comes back later than the timeline. So

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Speaker 1: you so, yeah, it is more likely and if he

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Speaker 1: comes back early, if I'm putting out a report four

489
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Speaker 1: to six, as the reporter gives me less wiggle room

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Speaker 1: than four to eight. Four to eight, you know you

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Speaker 1: have two more weeks to have been factually correct. And

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Speaker 1: after watching the Giants offense for a second time minus

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Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley, that's I'm not trying to delve into sacrilege here.

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Speaker 1: Take for to eight. Take some time, is your point here?

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Speaker 1: They look fantastic without him, but they weren't running the ball. Well,

496
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Speaker 1: maybe we don't need to run hundred times again. Wouldn't

497
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Speaker 1: they look even better again? I mean, I think he's

498
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Speaker 1: a great player to us was a very very small

499
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Speaker 1: sample size, but they got my blood flowing for the

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Speaker 1: first time in roughly nine two thousand days, blown all

501
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Speaker 1: over the place. Take whatever you will from it. I

502
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Speaker 1: think four to eight weeks is cheating in the entire game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a that's a look in the

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Speaker 1: don't tell go tell Adam Schefter that he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know him personally, but you either have to

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Speaker 1: go four to six or six to eight. You go

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Speaker 1: four to eight, your head and your bets. What if

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Speaker 1: he was told for eight, wouldn't you go with what

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Speaker 1: you were told I'd say to that source, I need

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Speaker 1: something a little bit more. This is a human body question,

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter. I go back to that guy. In fact,

512
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Speaker 1: I go to the guy that told me four to

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Speaker 1: eight and I say screw you, and I go find

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Speaker 1: another source that can give me a better That is

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Speaker 1: what they would call relationship build. Who would who would

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Speaker 1: have thought that marks uh giants are better off without?

517
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Speaker 1: Say Kwan Barkley would be the second hottest take of

518
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Speaker 1: this segment. I'm just writing down. I think it's roughly

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Speaker 1: predictable at the owner's meetings. I'm gonna find Schefter and

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Speaker 1: go see that guy over there, Dan. He said that

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Speaker 1: he was totally When you're done. When you're done with Schefter,

522
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Speaker 1: go find Jay Glazer. Dan said his mail back sucks.

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Speaker 1: You know what, in the I never said that, not

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Speaker 1: a definitive Malasi come after you at Schefter. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be like, oh, he's very nice

526
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Speaker 1: guy like Schefter. He just he's too confident in himself

527
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Speaker 1: and comfortable. He would just this will say Oh, that's

528
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Speaker 1: that's probably his own issues he's working out. I hope

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Speaker 1: he feels better. He wouldn't be right, though it's also

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Speaker 1: why Ian doesn't have any friends because in the Insider

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Speaker 1: Game it's it's very cutthroat, and as a member of

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Speaker 1: that game, I understand that I didn't come here to

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Speaker 1: make friends. I came here to deliver the best news,

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Speaker 1: the most accurate news to the people. Wait, so you're

535
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Speaker 1: saying that Ian's ploy um to name his podcast rap

536
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Speaker 1: Sheet and Friends as a way to finally have friends.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a cry. Yeah, it was a little

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Speaker 1: Can we just say what it is, which is a

539
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Speaker 1: cry for help or it's a way to keep Mike

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Speaker 1: Garret following pallisera down. I mean, they're just and friends, please,

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Speaker 1: and you and I go way back, but we all

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Speaker 1: know he doesn't. What do you got for John Clayton?

543
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Speaker 1: You've thrown every other inside or under the bus I

544
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Speaker 1: got I will say nothing about Clayton. I wrap your

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Speaker 1: heart out. Um. Anyway, so se Quon's out, Uh and

546
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: finally in the news. Uh, let's say a prayer for

547
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. I know we all come from different religious backgrounds,

548
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Speaker 1: and some of us are practicing and some of us aren't.

549
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: But Jalen Ramsey is ill and Uh, there's no way

550
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: connected to his trade demand, because he wouldn't do that

551
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: because he called the press conference last week he said,

552
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a distraction here. I don't

553
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Speaker 1: know how this got out. I don't want to be

554
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: a distraction. I want to be the best player I

555
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Speaker 1: can for the Jaguars. But now he's ill, and he

556
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Speaker 1: missed practice, and we don't know as of this recording

557
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: mark whether he has recovered from this unidentified illness. So

558
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: all you can do is prey take out the rosary. Yeah.

559
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean his focus is a laser focus. That much

560
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: we know, and so this is something unforeseen. Uh and

561
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: certainly not premeditated on any level. I take it very seriously.

562
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Speaker 1: Can't schedule the flu. But he played really well the

563
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Speaker 1: last two weeks he has, yes, yeah, not. The only

564
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Speaker 1: issue I have is with the whole the way you

565
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Speaker 1: issued the press conference, because everyone was begging him them

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Speaker 1: to have a pres Scott, he had no choice. They

567
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Speaker 1: make they make you address the media. Well, that gets like,

568
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: that gets in the way of the fun that we're

569
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Speaker 1: the team and that's what we wants him to do

570
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: it that is it's all fun. Fun. No in season

571
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Speaker 1: trade requesting. You don't have a press cot. It sounds

572
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Speaker 1: like the Jaguars, you know, don't do not want to

573
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Speaker 1: trade him, which I I thought was significant, or they

574
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Speaker 1: can't get two first round picks. I think their owner

575
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Speaker 1: distinctly did right now. I think they their owner coming

576
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Speaker 1: on NFL network on that afternoon before they play and

577
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Speaker 1: making it very clear that he's not too interested in

578
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: trading Jalen Ramsey was a significant uh moment for him

579
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Speaker 1: to say, I'm the boss here. Uh. He he might

580
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Speaker 1: have issues with his coach. I'm evaluating everyone. I don't

581
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Speaker 1: really want to get rid of Jalen Ramsey at this

582
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Speaker 1: time where I'm evaluating the guys that want to get

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Speaker 1: rid of them. They might not be here a year

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Speaker 1: from now. Fair enough around absolutely that that that could

585
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Speaker 1: be a hot butt too. Let's get into it. That's

586
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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. Yes, no doubt. Samuel Jackson's

587
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Speaker 1: most memorable line in any film ever, maybe the only

588
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Speaker 1: iconic line of his that doesn't have a m effort

589
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Speaker 1: in it or a swear word of some kind. Yeah,

590
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Speaker 1: you're not. No one's ever done it better. Sam Jackson,

591
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Speaker 1: whole famer. All right, they don't have a Hall of

592
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Speaker 1: Fame for actors. I guess it's just winning Oscars. Yeah,

593
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: but you know what, they're pretty liberal about handing those out.

594
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Speaker 1: I went out to dinner with my podcast friend Bob

595
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Speaker 1: the other day and I saw Al Michael's has a

596
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Speaker 1: star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame, which is awesome,

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Speaker 1: But you know, Al's a sportscaster. Oh, I mean, but

598
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Speaker 1: he's in the there's I feel like he's in at

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Speaker 1: least the middle class of who has those there's. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of bigger stretches than that than now, Like

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Speaker 1: he's been part of the number one show for a while,

602
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, he's a big, big, big guy television history. Alright,

603
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: bad example, but there are a lot of people. If

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Speaker 1: you taste like the third lead on basically that CBS

605
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Speaker 1: show with Melissa McCarthy and the and her husband, you

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Speaker 1: know it has a star in the Walk of Fame,

607
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: take a walk on the Hollywood Boulevard and you'll be

608
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Speaker 1: taken aback by some of the people that have that treatment.

609
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Speaker 1: There are some low level names, and that removes the

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Speaker 1: luster from a Sam Jackson, who I'm sure has a star. Uh,

611
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: there should be Uh, you gotta pay, you gotta pay

612
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Speaker 1: fifty tho bucks to get a star or something like that,

613
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: which is like the most repeated fact that's annoying. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have to pay for your own star. It's just

615
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Speaker 1: a self promotion. I'll think you have to be like

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Speaker 1: chosen to be able to pay for it, but ultimately

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Speaker 1: you're a little douche even to go for it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they should have a different street in Hollywood that's for

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Speaker 1: the real stars. So, like Harrison throws, I don't think

620
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Speaker 1: it's fifty but you have to pay for it. But

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Speaker 1: the upkeep to those towards the upkeep and everything, well

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Speaker 1: a couple of them get, you know, regularly smashed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: some for good reason. All right, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Uh quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks, assuming to the starring role. Starring role,

625
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: Hollywood said hold the fort or all right, let's uh

626
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: started off with Chris Wesling. Take one of these young

627
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: passers and let us know where you stand on them

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Speaker 1: based on what you've seen so far. Well, to me,

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Speaker 1: the most intra steven one as of the brink of

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Speaker 1: week four is the Steelers in Mason Rudolph because of

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Speaker 1: I guess the the weighty results for this year. If

632
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Speaker 1: if they draft in the top five, they won't be

633
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Speaker 1: able to get a quarterback of the future. Because the

634
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Dolphins have their draft pick, they need to win games.

635
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Speaker 1: And I don't remember the last time I've seen a

636
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Speaker 1: game plan like this where it was just come out

637
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Speaker 1: and throw tunnel screens to your receivers, the tunnel screens

638
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: to nowhere that the defense saw coming and there was

639
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: no offense whatsoever for a while. And this is his

640
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: Job's Halder, I don't think he can He can't succeed

641
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: in this offense until they fixed the running game. And

642
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: Greg has pointed out that they missed Mike Munchak. On

643
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line, James Conner is the easiest runner in

644
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: the league to bring down on first contact. This season,

645
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: that is bad. He's not breaking tackles like he did

646
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: last year, so that's a problem. And I think I

647
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: think the offensive line knows, like, Okay, it's on us now.

648
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: We have to fix this running game or else Mason

649
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Rudolph has no shot. I don't think the offense looked

650
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: great with Big Ben in there either, and he is

651
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: tough too. You can't unsaddle from Big Ben next year

652
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: contract wise, that's a tough ask. And I don't, but

653
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: but the on the only thing I'd say in terms

654
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: of more time needed is that they've talked about Mason Rudolph,

655
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: which they didn't do with a lot of these other

656
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: jabronies they brought in behind Big Ben over the years

657
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: as their most likely potential quarterback of the future. They

658
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: love his traits. He's size wise perfect, he's got a

659
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: big arm, and I kind of liked what he did

660
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: in that first appearance when he came in in relief

661
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: of Big Ben. Last week was a big step down

662
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: against a surging defense, So I just want to see more.

663
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Even in that first appearance, which had you know, eight

664
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: or nine good plays, it was mostly all really easily

665
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: defined one read, and that's not really playing quarterback as

666
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: much as it's following coaching. Well, the weird thing is

667
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: his reputation is his strength is going down field and

668
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: being aggressive. And in his first NFL start he had

669
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: the fewest completions that passed the line of scrimmage since

670
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow played. He had too they were both touchdown,

671
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: so you know, he made him count. But that's insane

672
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: that it was the most condensed offense since the Tim

673
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Tebow era. It watching the game. He definitely seemed to

674
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: get better as it progressed. The numbers tell you that

675
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: with the two touchdown passes, even though Juju did most

676
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: of the work and the first one, I would I'm

677
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: definitely in the hold onto your butt zone on this one. Um.

678
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I was expecting a little bit more in week one,

679
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't say I'd be in a panic mode yet.

680
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I just think he needs more reps. He's he's green.

681
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: America should be in a panic. They're in primetime for

682
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 1: the next seven weeks. Well, that's against the Bengals, against

683
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: the Chargers, against the Dolphins on Monday night football. Can't

684
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: flicks out of that, hope, opens up more time for

685
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: hobbies that you might be interested on the side, and

686
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: then against the Browns on Thursday night football. In weekly level,

687
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: this is the biggest hold onto your butt situation on

688
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: this list. I'm with you. It's a wild ride for

689
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: the next what twelve weeks. The draft book, the aspect

690
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: really puts so much on this. If this ends up

691
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: being the number three or five pick for the Dolphins,

692
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: he needs help. He's not getting it from his receivers,

693
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: he's not getting it from his line and he's not

694
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 1: getting his from his running backs, and this game plan

695
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: wasn't giving him help either. If they if they have

696
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: the third or fifth pick in this draft, and they're

697
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: not gonna have because they're giving it away. But if

698
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: they're in that position, I don't know who's gonna be

699
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: making picks for them or who's gonna be coaching this team.

700
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: There may be a major transition, and that changes everything

701
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: for a quarterback that's already on the roster. I don't

702
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: none of us are college heads. Although Mark, you're starting

703
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: to really dig into it on Saturdays. What do you

704
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: mean by digging watching fourteen different Division two guys like

705
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: I drove down the street and saw it through a

706
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: window of a sports bar. But other than that, for

707
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: roughly e I'm jumping in on this two thousand nineteen

708
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: green wave just in time, Greg, I mean that's like

709
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: the only highlight I saw from last week. And wearing

710
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: powder blue jersey, I mean you get a fake victory

711
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: formation run and then a sixty three yard touchdown to

712
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: win the game. Uh, their first time on ESPN in

713
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: like a decade. Please, um Northeastern University, my alma mater

714
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: up in Boston, discontinued their football program. In my alma mater,

715
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: Hucka Poos made it to the Flag Football Championship in

716
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven. Wes, how have you survived without

717
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: a college degree? How have you made it? I think

718
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: just bumbling around and landing place. It's probably just riding

719
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal shirt tails for a while. That's the way

720
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: to succeed. All right, Mark, give us so what is

721
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: the verdict for us? It's this is the biggest hold

722
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: onto your butt on the list. This is the quintessential

723
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: hold onto your butt situation. Okay, Mark? I future wise,

724
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: looking down the down the line, I think it's a

725
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: hold onto your butts with Gardner Minshew, because like, this

726
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: is a quarterback that I know, understand. He's got the

727
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: persona around him, and he's getting more attention for most

728
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: people because of the facial hair and the overly old

729
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: picture of him with his you know, buttons down to

730
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: his belly. But I mean, will Brinson come back to us.

731
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: If you're gonna put a photo out there on social

732
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: media and you're gonna make people think it's him getting

733
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: off the plane to play Week two, well that's misleading

734
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: the public. Well, I did not understand. I did not

735
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: want that to happen. Then I apologize for that, but

736
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: you've got you and you put all this money into

737
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, and I can't think of someone that When

738
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: they gave that contract out, it felt like we're the

739
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: last team in the NFL that doesn't have an answer

740
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: at quarterback and we haven't drafted anyone in the last

741
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: time we drafted and extended turned into a total debacle.

742
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: So we're gonna overpay for a quarterback in Nick Foles,

743
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: who has been a great story. But there are durability

744
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: issues that we've talked about every single time we brought

745
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: up Nick Foles, and those played out again, and I

746
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: realize you can't predict that stuff, but it has been

747
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: part of his career, and Nick Foles on the field

748
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: as an NFL starter is an unknown commodity. And Gardner

749
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: minshew what I would say, at the very least he's

750
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: doing if he comes in for the rest of this

751
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: season and plays the way he's played, I think they

752
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: he's a good match for John d Filippa in that offense,

753
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: and they've opened up and given him trust to do

754
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: a lot to play aggressively every game he's made aggressive

755
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: throws down field and sort of shaken awake a wide

756
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: receiving corps that's been asleep for a long long time.

757
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: I like all that stuff. The last thing I'll say

758
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: is if he he kind of gives me and he's

759
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Colt McCoy, but a kind of

760
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: person that is essentially right now ensuring that he can

761
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: play in the NFL for the next seven, eight, nine,

762
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: ten years. If he can give you this, he is

763
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: giving himself a career. When Samuel Jackson says hold onto

764
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: your bucks in Jurassic Park, he doesn't know that he's

765
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: going to die. All he knows that our lives are

766
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: never going to be the same after this. Again, it

767
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: could be Yeah, that was deep blue se I think.

768
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I think he dies, but they don't show. I'm gonna

769
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: google it because there was a there was a hurricane

770
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: on the island to Kauai while they were filming, and

771
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: they never filmed his death. To your point, there doesn't

772
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: know if he is or he's not deep knowledge. We

773
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 1: don't know, So Gardner Minshew, something life changing is about

774
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to happen for the Jaguars. They just don't know where

775
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna go, and there's a chance that Nick Foles

776
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: never gets his job back. That's among the possibilities that

777
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: could happen. Would understand that journey better than some other

778
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks exactly. There's also a chance that this saves the

779
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey era in Jacksonville. Maybe Minshew play so well

780
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: that Ramsey has persuaded to drop his trade request. He's

781
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: gonna need a lot of help from from the team

782
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: around him, and he got it in week three. We'll

783
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: see if that continues. I think the receivers are the

784
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: least of their problems. Uh, Charkin Conley have been a

785
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 1: nice duo all three weeks. Whether the offensive line, whether

786
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: the running game, you know, the defense has to be

787
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: really good. He's been so composed it it's a little

788
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: it's not under the radar, but a sixth round rookie.

789
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: It's wild for a sixth round rookie to come in

790
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and look so comfortable. And I do think the way

791
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: that college offenses have changed and the NFL is kind

792
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: of meeting them halfway, and especially these guys who are

793
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: coming out of the Mike Leech system. Kyle Allen is different,

794
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: but not so different. I mean Kyler Murray certainly. Uh,

795
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: they're ready to go, and I think the Jaguars are

796
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: smartly like playing to minshow strengths. He hasn't like lit

797
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: it up, but he's really been good avoiding mistakes and

798
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: he's really been good in making drives when he needed to,

799
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: including in Houston. I mean that could have been a

800
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: great moment. The drive that he led was awesome. Uh

801
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: if they had hit that two point conversion. This from

802
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: the January eighth, two thousand and eighteen edition of The

803
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter. Sam Jackson's Jurassic Park character was originally going

804
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: to die on screen. The actor says a hurricane ruined

805
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: his planned trip to Hawaii to shoot the scenes. So, uh,

806
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: the death is assumed, like you're saying um or presumed,

807
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's never shown because they couldn't shoot

808
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: it because of the schedule got jacked up by a hurricane.

809
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: Should I be surprised? This isn't like some small independent

810
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: home hanging onto a minor budget. This is Jurassic Park.

811
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: They couldn't find a way to shoot this job somewhere.

812
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: Bad job by Spielberg that that feels like an unbelievable anecdotal,

813
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: but that like he like, that's probably his death, you

814
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: know what, it wasn't like deep Lucy where him getting

815
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: eaten by the shark is essentially the point of the

816
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: entire movie is basically for that moment. You know, he's

817
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: a minor character in Jurassic Park, right, yeah? Sam Jackson also,

818
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: uh this from Ricky Hollywood. Um ironically the Hollywood Walk

819
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: of Fame star awarded in the year two thousand. Alright,

820
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: throwing out there, Greg Rosenthal, are you fact checking me

821
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: right now? Greg? I just see you instantly start typing

822
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: as soon as you say that's a weird, really strange thing.

823
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: I know, I was. I was going to ask how

824
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: much of the the Hollywood start cost, just because I

825
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: wanted to follow up on my own. In fact, you've

826
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: already thrown a number out there, right, but I was

827
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: just guessing the current fee is forty thousand dollars pretty good? Yeah, yeah,

828
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: I had a rough idea i'd ever read it before

829
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: you up it for inflation from when you heard that story.

830
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Who knows, all right, hold the fort or hold onto

831
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: your buck right through somebody else. I'm gonna say that

832
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen can hold the four I mean, I love

833
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: what I see. I don't want to react to two

834
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: NFL starts, but he was really composed against the Saints

835
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: starters in Week seventeen a year ago, I thought added

836
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: value to them. He did his damage against Saints starters,

837
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: and to me, that counts in your first NFL start,

838
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: whether the Saints had something to play for or not.

839
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: And then and then in this start, he added a

840
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: lot to that Panthers offense. I mean the throws he

841
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: made on third and long a couple of times where

842
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: they had a huge blitz. One time it's coming to

843
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: his left, another time it's to his right. Even in

844
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: the first drive, Uh, Chandler Jones is on him immediately

845
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: and what was essentially a busted play, and he was

846
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: composed enough and knew where Greg Olsen was gonna be

847
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: to put it up for greg Olsen to try to

848
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: make a pay. Olsen didn't on that play, but they

849
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: did throughout the game. These were not regular Hey, it's

850
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: your guy and your first start. Let's just count on

851
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: him to get rid of the ball. He did plenty

852
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: of that too. He made terrific plays on the run

853
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: and looked as comfortable in that offense as possible. It

854
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: looked like he had been running it forever, so I

855
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: think he can hold the ford. I want to overreact

856
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: to command. I liked when they were down inside the

857
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: five yard line and Greg Little, the rookie filling in

858
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: a left tackle, had a false start and he Kyle Allen,

859
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: just threw the ball on the ground, disgusted with the

860
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean it was like, Okay, what are

861
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: we doing blowing up this chance to score? Um. I

862
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: think the big question with him. The ball placement and

863
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: timing were such a welcome improvement on the injured version

864
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: of Cam from the first two weeks. There was this

865
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: offense was in sync. The question is how does he

866
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: deal with pressure behind an offensive line that has been

867
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: very hit or missed this year and the left tackle

868
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams, who was injured during last week's game, has

869
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: been a problem this year. Thought they played great in

870
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: that game and he invited pressure a few times, but

871
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: he did really great against pressure when it when it

872
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 1: did come. I got lucky because I had a great

873
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: draft last week. With the games I drafted and created

874
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: a very uh you know, a Sunday that fit together

875
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: very well, and I got to watch the Cardinals first,

876
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: the Panthers the extended full broadcast versus condensed which now

877
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: chucks in and about fifty eight minutes. But I will

878
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: say this the Kyle Allen, there's the end of the

879
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: spectrum of the quarterback that when he comes over to

880
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: the sideline after a good play or a good driver

881
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: or not, he's kind of one of the dudes and

882
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: the guys around him are magnetized by him. He has that.

883
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: And I thought on the other end, and I don't know,

884
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: it's not a shot anyway, Dan at your Jets, But

885
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: when they put when they did a disservice to put

886
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon on Mike for that Monday night game, and

887
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: you got the quotes before the game, He's like, all right, guys,

888
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good. We're gonna be fine. Everything's okay.

889
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: It was like, that's not working. But Kyle Allen, to me,

890
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: was just one of the guys. Trevor Simeon personal I'm

891
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: pointing out because it comes back into my mind like

892
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: once a day that that was not the way I'd

893
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: want to be as a quarterback. Kyle Allen was just

894
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: one of the dudes. And he feels like totally at

895
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: home in play on field and on the sideline too. Hm,

896
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll throw out Jacoby Brissett as an ultimate right now

897
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: hold the four guy. In fact, I think we use

898
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: that exact language on Sunday when going over their most

899
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: recent win. Uh A game where who they beating again

900
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: on Sunday Falcons. Yes, he completed his first sixteen passes.

901
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: Looks so comfortable in this offense and very rarely does

902
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: you know? All the hype around a player in this

903
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: hype built very quickly immediately after Andrew Luck stunned the

904
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: world with that retirement, um, which just rocked the Patrick

905
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: Claiban barbecue to its core. I mean, just shut the

906
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: whole thing down. I'll never forget that. Yeah, that's a

907
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: never forget moment, poor Claiban. That's the Pearl Harbor of

908
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: like barbecue things like you know that. That's um, I

909
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 1: mean it now, you'll remember the barbecue forever though, so

910
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: may I mean you had your three hours fun? Yeah, yeah,

911
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's not Port Claibon. It was epic. You're

912
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: just paralleled it to JFK's assassination in Pearl Harbor, not

913
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: in terms of like the the impact it had on

914
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: the nation in the world, but just one of those

915
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: famous flashpoint moments. I know exactly where I was when

916
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: it happened. And now you're thinking about Andrew Luck instead

917
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: of the great shrimp that he had a whole shrimp boil,

918
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: and Claibon probably is annoyed about it because everyone was

919
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: just talking about the Andrew Luck angle and nobody was

920
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: talking about all the trips he made to his boiler

921
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: to cook up a delicious shrimp boil. Jacoby Brissette sixteen

922
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: straight completions to start the game, um shows. Oh my

923
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: point being that very rarely do you get that hype about, Oh,

924
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be okay because Jacoby Brissette. He's there, and

925
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: the cults like, oh, we love him, somebody, you know

926
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: how much we of him. We're ripping up his contract,

927
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay him like a borderline like franchise quarterback.

928
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: And it was like, all right, Colts, calmed down a

929
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: little bit here, you don't need to do this right now. Well,

930
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: guess what, he They look very smart right now because

931
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette is more than a hold the fourth guy.

932
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: He's a potential solution for them going forward. He's just

933
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, and Um and Greg, I knew

934
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: it was a play call you loved by Frank Reich,

935
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: the UH play action rollout hit Jack Doyle to clinch

936
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: the game on third and four rather than run it,

937
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: run down the clock and try to go up six

938
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: with a field goal and ask your defense to get

939
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: a stop against the Falcons team that couldn't be stopped

940
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: in the second half. That play call is only made

941
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: when a coach trusts his quarterback implicitly not to jack

942
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: it up. And Jacoby Brissett is not jacking it up.

943
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: He's doing the app opposite for the Cults right now,

944
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: the inverse of hold onto your butts is stapility, stability,

945
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: and this Colts organization right now is all about infrastructure.

946
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: They just they're rock solid and stable as it gets

947
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: in that division. And Frank Wright, to me, that's why

948
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: he's a hold the fork guy. He's not a whole

949
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: hold onto your butts because the floor is so much

950
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: higher with Frank Wright calling and designing the place. Yeah

951
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: it it helps, And I think you hit on the

952
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: organization's trust in him. I mean, I think that's the

953
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: way they run their team in general. They bring in

954
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: o'carechy to take over for Darius Leonard last week, and

955
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: you you're stuck with Zach Pascal being like your number

956
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: one receiver at the end of that game. But they

957
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: kind of trust in their coaching, similar to the Patriots

958
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: a little bit that that they're gonna be ready to go,

959
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: and they have a great track record, and that helps Brissette,

960
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: who I thinks looked about as good as I'm a

961
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: big fan of his, would have expected, not any better.

962
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't think he's wowing anyone, um, but I

963
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: think he's just he's a mid level starter, which is

964
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: not easy to find in the NFL. I like when

965
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: I when they extended him, it didn't throw me, just

966
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: because they seemed to truly believe in the guys they have.

967
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of these teams that throughout these

968
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: self prop up contracts and extensions that we all can

969
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: look at sideways and be like, you drafted this guy

970
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: is not working out, and you want to make it

971
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: look like he's working. Sanchez the Rams before, Sean McVeigh

972
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: did a little bit of that where it was just like,

973
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: look at us, where we're extending our own draft picks,

974
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: even though everyone else feels these guys are so far

975
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: The cults never hit me that way with Sette because

976
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: they've always talked him up West. Keep us rolling, Baby,

977
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes. Oh, I think I know where this is going.

978
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: The answer to this question means more to the Giants

979
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: than any other team on this list. He's gotta be,

980
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: he's got to be the solution. He's gotta build a fort,

981
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: he's gotta be. He's gotta be. Hold onto your button

982
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: a good way. I'm taking you for a ride. And

983
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: the I think the question for me is how much

984
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: can we really know based on preseason in one start?

985
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Take Marcus Mariota, for example, who had just as my

986
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: glowing praise written about his first August and then had

987
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: a perfect passer rating and an even better debut than

988
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes. Happened in Nashville, so you didn't hear about

989
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: it as much. But it's not guaranteed that Danny Dimes

990
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: is gonna go on and be the solution. But I

991
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: think this is the best imaginable start for Giants fans.

992
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: I have, you know, as a New Yorker, I have

993
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: a ton of Giants fans that Uh, you know my

994
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: buddies back home that we text about sports and whatnot,

995
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: and as you might expect, they're on fire right now.

996
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: And my buddy Mark asked, the question is was that

997
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: the greatest debut um by a quarterback of first start

998
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: ever debut? And that's a loaded question. But the first

999
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: game that came to mind for me was r G

1000
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: three and two thousand twelve. That to me is always

1001
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: going to be like kind of the goat um debut.

1002
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: But I was wondering if you guys had any other

1003
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: that come to mind that approach or surpass what Uh

1004
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: Jones was able to do. I mean, Kyle Allen, if

1005
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: if Sunday was his first starts basically pitched the perfect game,

1006
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: I think, what what Danton you're referencing specifically, they're also

1007
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of the marquis nature of the like sending a

1008
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: notice right, And I think r G three that's got

1009
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: to be the top of the list. But the juxtaposition

1010
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: of how destroyed the Giants were around drafting Daniel Jones

1011
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: and everything around everything they did with Eli Manning to

1012
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: have his debut shock Giant not about shock but please

1013
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: them and please us and change the way we think

1014
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: about the Giants in the course of four hours. That's

1015
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: about as good of a debut as that front office

1016
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: could have ever imagined in their wildest dreams. And a guy,

1017
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: and I'll take out the burn book on this, but

1018
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: a guy that was completely written off by so many

1019
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: people that follow this sport and cover this sport just

1020
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: because you didn't like what the GM was doing. Well,

1021
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: I think I'm not I'm not selling arrows in this

1022
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: room because it was it was a lot of people

1023
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: that were doing it. But he was completely disregarded as

1024
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: a prospect and a talent because the Draft Knicks didn't

1025
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: think he deserves to go number six, and because people

1026
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: were annoyed with Dave Gentleman for what was a suspect offseason.

1027
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: But this proves why you have to hold your commentary

1028
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: until the guy plays, especially if you didn't watch him

1029
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: in college, If you draft people weren't watching. You're a

1030
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: draft analyst, a draft nick, and you hated Daniel Jones

1031
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: is a prospect and he and he works out. You

1032
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: just were really wrong on that. And I don't I

1033
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: don't kill people for having that opinion, which was I

1034
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: think the majority of it was people I thought he

1035
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: was overdrafted. Thought he was like a second round you know,

1036
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: type of talent who was interesting but couldn't lift up

1037
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: a duke team. But you know, sometimes the coaching that

1038
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: you get and the poor teammates around you, kind of

1039
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: like Marson Wentz was at North Dakota State. Yeah, I

1040
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: don't think that the Giants have escaped all criticism because

1041
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: of this. It's really nice if this works out for them,

1042
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: but they have not done everything perfectly. I think it

1043
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 1: was like a learning lesson potentially for the Twitter mob. Well,

1044
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of those that people will have not

1045
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: learned from, so it might be the first time they learn.

1046
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: But this is a prominent example of why you should

1047
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: not uh not a draft pick immediately based on other thing.

1048
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: I'm not talking the player, I'm talking the way that

1049
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Giants have organized themselves over the past couple of years.

1050
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: Is a totally separate It was organized, but it it

1051
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: raises an interesting question. I mean, we are as aggressively

1052
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: wrong about Daniel Jones is I mean about a lot

1053
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: of things as people were about Daniel Jones throughout every

1054
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: season that we do this show. It's it's sort of

1055
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: part I mean, whether you come, you gotta come to

1056
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: terms with that or not. But it's just it's true.

1057
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: What my point is, it just happened to be and

1058
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: everyone wrong. For instance, on a player, Let's say, I

1059
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: don't know, I came to mind Adrian Peterson going into

1060
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: last season whether he could play anymore, and then you

1061
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 1: know we're writing him off west as he could still play.

1062
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: We were wrong, but we were basing that on the

1063
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: people that were wrong in this room, what we had

1064
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: seen from him, his age, his offensive is in. We're

1065
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: basically on knowledge that we had in we just made

1066
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 1: the wrong call. Some of this General Jones Joesph was

1067
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: just unfair. I mean, this guy got booed out of

1068
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium throwing out the first pitch because the media

1069
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: and the fans got so worked up with the idea

1070
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: that the Giants couldn't get it right, and he just

1071
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: got right. The same thing as Warrens, you know, the Jets,

1072
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, fans booing Kyle Brady when he was drafted.

1073
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: Like it's just in this case, the Giants looked like

1074
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: they're going to be right about Kyle Brady. The flip

1075
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: side of that Adrian Peterson conversation was that I did

1076
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: the same thing with Joe Flacco and was dead wrong

1077
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: about him. But I think I'll be so sure. The

1078
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: key point is, are you doing your research and put

1079
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: it in the effort to have that opinion that it's

1080
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: coming from an honest place. And it's hard to it's

1081
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: hard to fault people who are doing the work and

1082
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: then trusting their eyes, because that's the whole job description.

1083
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: If you're an analyst, or if you're anybody who talks

1084
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: about the sport, do the work and trust your eye.

1085
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: I would, and don't say something phony. I would suggest

1086
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: that everyone on Twitter is doing the search and trusting

1087
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: their eyes. Yes, all right, Mark, we have a couple more.

1088
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: You want to throw another one out there, Well, how

1089
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: how does Teddy Bridgewater? Can we can we squeeze him

1090
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: into this exercise? My thing with Teddy Bridgewater because I

1091
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: think one of the links here is these guys are

1092
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: young and their careers ahead of them, and we don't

1093
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: have a lot to base anything on with Teddy Bridgewater.

1094
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: And you know, Wes, you made the point that you

1095
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: feel like he's just not who he was before the injury,

1096
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: and it's kind of feels like, how could you say here,

1097
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: we're not getting the same player, and so you there's

1098
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: total empathy for the journey that he's had to go on,

1099
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 1: and and it's like this player that I totally root for,

1100
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: but these other guys that when I watched Daniel Jones

1101
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: again today and I watched what he did, like, I

1102
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: just don't get it. I remember when I was on

1103
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: high school football team and basically just that there stacking numbers,

1104
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: get that five ft seven kid out there and put

1105
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: him out there for practice. But we had this kid

1106
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: come in and play quarterback from another city, and he

1107
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: was like a real football player with a bust of

1108
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: forget the rest of us, and like from the first

1109
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: practice he started to throw the ball, our offense changed,

1110
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: and everyone we were like fourteen fifteen years old, we

1111
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: all knew that something was different. I just don't feel

1112
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: that way about Teddy Bridgewater on any level right now.

1113
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: And he's perfectly fine too. I guess hold the fort

1114
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: until Breeze gets back, because I don't know what else

1115
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. I would rather see Taysom Hill, though,

1116
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: like curiosity is much higher to see the other quarterback

1117
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: on the roster. We don't hear game manager in today's

1118
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: NFL as much as we did a decade ago. But

1119
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: that's what the Saints want Teddy to be is just

1120
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: managed the game, don't mess up. Let our offensive playmakers

1121
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: do this, let our defense and special teams help and

1122
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: hold the fort until Drew brees. I think they're gonna

1123
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: need to add some elements as this goes forward. How

1124
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: it worked out Sunday was perfect. I mean, similar to Rudolph.

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00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: He barely threw the ball past the you know, five

1126
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: ten yards. I think there's only two throws over ten

1127
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: yards in that game. Then it any. He got the

1128
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: job done. He's all. He's a month younger than Brissette.

1129
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. So I do think there's

1130
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: a chance that Teddy Bridgewater, the story of him coming

1131
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: back is is a great story. I mean even if

1132
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: he just wins some games and he is a good backup, like,

1133
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: that's a great story. Um. But I think there's a

1134
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: chance that he has more to do in his career.

1135
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: He just hasn't. He hasn't shown it yet in this

1136
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: comeback was close this out. Josh Rosen, m hmm, hold

1137
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: onto your butts or hold the four. I think he's

1138
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: he's a hold onto your buck guy. We don't. We

1139
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: don't know what he is because he hasn't played behind

1140
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: the real offensive line in the NFL yet. I have

1141
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: not been impressed with him. I know Greg has seen

1142
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: some throws he really likes. There's been some great throws,

1143
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: but it's just wild. It's a wild ride. I can

1144
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: envision other quarterbacks in those situations playing better than he has.

1145
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: Certainly you could play worse too. I just haven't seen

1146
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: enough from Josh Rosan to say, oh, yeah, he's definitely

1147
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,959
Speaker 1: gonna be a starter some day. I don't. I don't.

1148
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet with him. No, I agree with that.

1149
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, how can you see anything with him? I

1150
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: I agree, it's he's so possible. He's titanically screwed. And

1151
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: we've talked about this so we don't have to delve

1152
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: into it. But he was in an all time crap

1153
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: offense last year in Arizona. He gets quit on and

1154
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: sent to Miami, who might be the worst team of

1155
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: all time, a team that is actively tanking so they

1156
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: could pick the guy who would play over Josh Rosen.

1157
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: So he has no future in his current location, but

1158
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: he's under contract. I don't know what is the best

1159
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: case scenario for Josh Rosen. That's somehow he gets out

1160
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: of Miami and maybe lands with a team. I don't

1161
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: know that in a case Keenom type situation, He's certainly

1162
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: not gonna be handed a starting job based on these

1163
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: two years. It's his luck. Maybe re emerges as a

1164
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: starter a couple of years time, get through the season

1165
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: healthy and don't have that tap. I mean, if if

1166
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: they drop some of his deeper throws, numbers would look better.

1167
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: He's made some great throws and he makes them crazy decision.

1168
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: He seems like a little bit right now, too wild

1169
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: of a ride to trust as a starting quarterback. But

1170
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: he's playing better than Ryan Fitzpatrick played for them. I mean,

1171
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: it's unprecedented. He's He's a number ten overall pick who

1172
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: has never been given the chance to develop, and maybe

1173
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: he never will. He's twenty two, so I think he's

1174
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: going to be in the NFL a long time. And

1175
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,959
Speaker 1: I think what Mark said is right that he's gonna

1176
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: have to fall or get into a better situation, and

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01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: who knows that might be in three years. I don't

1178
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: just do we put anything and I we don't. I

1179
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: don't know that the one thing that annoyed me more

1180
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 1: than everything else is everyone killing Josh Rosen the person

1181
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: when they didn't know him, and so I don't want

1182
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: to do that at all. But when I see a

1183
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: team totally go one eighty on them after one season

1184
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: in one organization and the second organization he's with, despite

1185
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: not really having a fair read on him, is heats

1186
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: seeking another quarterback. It's suddenly you're on your third team

1187
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't know what the personal experience

1188
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: of the quarterback behind the scenes is. If you remember

1189
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: Charlie Casserley NFL Networks, Owe made a lot of headlines

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01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: over the offseason where he cited a source that said

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: that you know he had Rosen had so much work

1192
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: to do to be a pro and get to the

1193
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: facility earlier. Be that and talking to Charlie when it

1194
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: was on our show a couple of weeks ago. Before

1195
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: the show, we actually didn't talk about it. But apparently

1196
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: those same that same type of heat is still connected

1197
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: to him based on the people Charlie Casserle is talking to,

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01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: So that could be it. Maybe maybe part of the

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: issue is that he's never gonna be that real grinder

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01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But my point being, he's just not

1201
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: getting a like at this point. You know, there's been

1202
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL greats that were not not not

1203
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: saying he's going to be an NFL great But I

1204
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: guess I'm just leaving room for him to be a

1205
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: different person and player when he gets older. At this point,

1206
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: like Brett Farve was almost drinking himself out of the league.

1207
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: It's totally different that you can see him wind up

1208
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: on the Patriots. I know, we don't like to throw

1209
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: everyone in New England in a totally just or just

1210
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: somewhere filling the blank, totally stable situation, and he urged

1211
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: two or three years from now. Is someone that starts

1212
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: four teen games and looks totally different. He's undergoing like

1213
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: what David Carr went with the Texans when they were

1214
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: an expansion team, and then the next year also undergo

1215
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: what Tim Couch went through while he was with the

1216
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: Browns and an expansion team. You just don't see quarterbacks

1217
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: have to do this earlier in their career. All right, um,

1218
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: good chat, Let's move on to Thursday Night Football Week

1219
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: Fource spinning forward a great game. I don't know, this

1220
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: might be a west manor game. I don't know. Let's

1221
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. The Philadelphia Eagles and a tough inviters

1222
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: out there. You're all welcome to join, including Erica of course,

1223
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: that we might need that you might need a little

1224
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: kumbay ya. Thank you guys, backyard gathering. I think I'm

1225
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: flying back to Boston. My grandma's not doing too well.

1226
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: Say hello, um, but thank you for including me. Appreciate

1227
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Speaker 1: it well. Best wishes to grandma. Um. The Eagles are

1228
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: one and two and just rotten luck. You're one in two.

1229
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: You're banged up as all get out. Bringing that back

1230
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: to uh and what do you got? You got a

1231
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: short week now, and oh you have to go on

1232
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 1: the road and you're against the Green Bay Packers who

1233
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: are three and oh and seem to be figuring it

1234
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: out on offense. And we know uh gulta cons is

1235
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: locked in on defense with m J shoulder shrug. Uh So,

1236
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: a very tough game here, Greg for the Eagles who

1237
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: are trying to get healthy but now have to face

1238
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: a juggernaut outside their building in prime time on a

1239
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: short week. Yikes. Got some good news that Alson Jeffrey

1240
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: appears to be all systems go to at least try

1241
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: to play this game. He was he was at practice

1242
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,479
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so that that's big. We'll see if Dallas

1243
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: Goddard's back. They are gonna be without Ronald Darby, who

1244
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: was struggling, but sounds like he's gonna be out a

1245
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: little while with his injury. So there's they're still very

1246
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: banged up. I think it's a winnable game, though, because

1247
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the Packers offense has turned it

1248
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: around at all. I haven't seen it. There's no rhythm

1249
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: that it's interesting that they've probably had a worse three

1250
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: games stretch offensively, if if you if we had research

1251
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: do this, and I thought about it, but just felt mean,

1252
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, they got a lot to do, then any

1253
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: three game stretch of the Mike McCarthy era that Aaron

1254
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers started, the same Mike McCarthy people's three years as

1255
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: being so behind the curve that they were holding back

1256
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Aaron rod The football is a team game and they

1257
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: are winning and I think that matters. And who knows,

1258
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: if they were behind in these games, everything could be different.

1259
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: But right now most of their plays are off Aaron

1260
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: Rodgers making a just kind of like a great throw,

1261
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: or they went tempo a little bit in last game,

1262
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: or he's improvising and there's there's you know, they're they're

1263
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: twenty nine yards and six points per drive right now.

1264
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 1: I would just say it's the best thing you could

1265
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: have imagined that if your offense was gonna need half

1266
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: a year to get up to speed. That we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a Green Bay Packers defense that we've never been together

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Speaker 1: and watched them play this way, where Mike Petton and

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore are going week to week in the battle

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Speaker 1: for assistant Coach of the Year. I mean, Mike in

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Speaker 1: his real just gotten the lame by Daniel Jones. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like, can we save the m v P

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Speaker 1: articles for a little later. This is the real race.

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Speaker 1: But they and I guess if you're Aaron Rodgers, he

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Speaker 1: glowed about the way the offensive line kept him safe

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Speaker 1: last week against the Broncos team where you could have

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Speaker 1: thought you're gonna get whacked five or six times those sacks.

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Speaker 1: And the Broncos have their own issues on defense, but

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Speaker 1: the Eagles did in sack car or Matthew Stafford last week.

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Speaker 1: Either are they're banged up on defense? One of my

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Speaker 1: new Monday routines after I read Greg's debrief article. Mike

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Speaker 1: Sando of The Athletic has a nice weekly article when

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Speaker 1: he pointed out this week the Packers have already held

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Speaker 1: more opponents under seventeen points in the first three games

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Speaker 1: than they did all of last year and all of

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Speaker 1: the year before. UM teams win eighty seven per cent

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Speaker 1: at the time over the past decade when their opponents

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Speaker 1: failed to reach seventeen points. If you can do that,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win. And so far the Packer are that

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Speaker 1: defense run defense, Uh, for the Packers hasn't been great.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't been exposed too much because I mean it

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Speaker 1: hasn't hurt them that much. They've given up big numbers.

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Speaker 1: So maybe maybe Eagles can try to get something going.

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Speaker 1: They haven't looked too great on the ground. Miles Sanders

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Speaker 1: made some big plays last week, but also made uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, some big mistakes. But this is a situation

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Speaker 1: the Packers defense where I think the dbs are making

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Speaker 1: the pass rush look better. They're covering so well that

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Speaker 1: they're letting that wild man that Areas Smith is winning

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Speaker 1: wild Man of the Year. Well that's that's an award.

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Speaker 1: But give it to him. He's wild, he's crazy. He

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Speaker 1: he was named the captain, and you know, within weeks

1303
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: of joining that team, and you could just him and

1304
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: Savage are tone setters. You bring those two guys in

1305
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: and it's just like the whole defense are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of dogs. The only thing that's about the Eagles is

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: it's I get it there one and two and they

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: people are their their hairs on fire over what's gonna

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01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: happen to the team. But it's like they are one

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Speaker 1: catch away Hail Mary last week on the two or

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Speaker 1: three yard line and say that J j R. Segal

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Speaker 1: white Side Artego Whiteside flips around and rolls into the

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Speaker 1: end zone. They are the magical team from last week,

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Speaker 1: and they in the week before Zach Er it's a

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Speaker 1: yard shy of converting and then potentially winning that game too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's don't forget what that Nelson Aglar drop.

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Speaker 1: They had a lot of weird stuff happening, like the

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans for booing them at home last week. I

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Speaker 1: get it, it's been a rough start, but I don't

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Speaker 1: worry about a one in two Eagles team. I don't,

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Speaker 1: not yet. Artego Whiteside though, is kind of I mean

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Speaker 1: their receivers have hurt them. He's played a hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty two snaps. He has seven targets to catches fourteen yards.

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Speaker 1: That is a sinkhole. Well, they had five drops last week.

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Speaker 1: No teams had more than five in the game. I

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Speaker 1: mean Wentz was not helped alright, power Rank, it's a

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Speaker 1: tough game to pick. Power rank. Your Monday Morning Reads, uh,

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Speaker 1: Sando Rosenthal, Peter King, Barnwell, Well, I'm really Monday at

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Speaker 1: late afternoon of just telling you that truth. Monday Reads

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Speaker 1: Greg is my favorite of those articles. Also person uh,

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Speaker 1: Gregumber one, Albert Brier number by that by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't even buy it. Greg's Greg does a better

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Speaker 1: job of recapping what's going on the field than any

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Speaker 1: of these guys who also mix in off the field stuff.

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Speaker 1: Brier number two for me, I really he concentrates a

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Speaker 1: lot on what's going on on the field. Peter Peter

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Speaker 1: King is last because when I read him, I read

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Speaker 1: everyone else in his tone of voice, and I'll be

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Speaker 1: stuck halfway through a Brier article and I'm thinking I'm

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Speaker 1: reading King again. That's kind of a compliment to King.

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Speaker 1: I mean Kings the goat of Monday morning. Monday morning courter,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm Monday later after football. Mind for that

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Speaker 1: long I read Peter King for his reporting, not his analysis.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, now all we have left of Sando

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Speaker 1: and Barnwell fill this out. I like reading barn Are

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Speaker 1: we going so long on this show to look at this?

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01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: I like reading Barnwell. I think Mike tin Here is

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Speaker 1: in there. Some mondays here, Mike tin here here, Yes,

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Speaker 1: t A and I Monday is probably my biggest reading day.

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Speaker 1: Good makes sense? Well. They also the one fact we

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Speaker 1: haven't mentioned even is uh the emergence of Jamal Williams

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01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,559
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers as a veritable personality in this NFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen to Yeah, I feel like a mermaid and

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: everybody else like dogs swimming, you know what means. I'll

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: be feeling like I'm just fooling out there. So I

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: think it's the rain. I feel like smart bomb. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I like it.

1358
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: How many other teams have mermaids. It's like he's been

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: as manner for a couple of hours. He was talking

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Speaker 1: about playing in the rain. He's a mermaid, there was,

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Speaker 1: He said, Mermaide, it's good. I thought you should check

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Speaker 1: out the video of that quarter. You can find it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. It's it's pretty interesting. Um. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Thursday with our Week four preview episode,

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 1: and then later Thursday or Thursday Night Football Recap mini pod,

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Speaker 1: and then Sunday the Flagship Show recapping all the Sunday

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Speaker 1: games of week. So that's what it's all about. That's

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Speaker 1: the total layout. All right, Greg, we're gonna on the

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Speaker 1: show now. Yeah, having a nice time talking to our friends,

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to shut the show down. I'm just

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Speaker 1: noticing that it has a Frandy on Tuesday or the

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Speaker 1: mail man, the boss. You're making that rank. You go, well,

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Speaker 1: Rookie's grandma m