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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, It's Wednesday, August twenty seventh, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We're happy to

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Speaker 1: survive Cutdown Day. It's me and your man, NAMG Marcus

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Speaker 1: Grand joined by Michael Florio and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday. I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: It's like, welcome to Wednesday show, because it's not Thursday,

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Speaker 1: it's not Monday. It's just it's just Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Friday, Junior, Junior.

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Speaker 4: The thing we do all season.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Wednesday. Welcome to Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Everybody you by during the season, you will have gotten

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Speaker 1: your waiver wire claims. Hopefully you're still a day away

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Speaker 1: from having a set any lineups.

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Speaker 4: It's Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, man, it's Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I said Friday Junior Junior, but I think that will

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Speaker 3: be two.

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Speaker 4: That would be Friday the third.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like that, Yeah, exactly, let's me too much.

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Speaker 4: Friday the third doesn't doesn't have the right too much.

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Speaker 2: Quite, that doesn't quite work.

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Speaker 1: So it's just Wednesday, man, Welcome to Wednesday. We got

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Speaker 1: stuff to dive into today. We're gonna wait, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do tomorrow's show will be our bold predictions for the season,

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Speaker 1: maybe even throwing some hot takes just because so today

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Speaker 1: I feared we do our rider Die guys right, the

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Speaker 1: guys that we are drafting per each position, quarterback, running back,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end, the guys that we feel like

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Speaker 1: we have to come out of drafts with uh in

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Speaker 1: this one. I'm also in the process of doing a

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Speaker 1: draft right now. It is the CBS Sports Telethon Draft

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Speaker 1: for a charity for Saint Jude, benefiting Saint Jude.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get into it at some point.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that, like I felt great with

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Speaker 1: my first like six or seven picks, and the last

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Speaker 1: few picks have kind of gone sideways, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: how it's Awesome'll be.

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Speaker 3: On there tonight six You can catch me on there

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Speaker 3: in the Draft of thon CBS awesome.

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Speaker 1: So be sure to check out Lakwan this evening on

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Speaker 1: the other Draft of Thon. Always a lot of great

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Speaker 1: people involved in that. Shout out to the guys o

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Speaker 1: our CBS, Jamie and Dave and Heath and all the

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Speaker 1: folks over at CBS too, do a great job. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into some news and started with a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that just sort of happened yesterdays. I was putting

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Speaker 1: this rundown together, like it was sort of light on news.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't much of anything, and I was like kind

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Speaker 1: talk about Russell Wilson because Darius Slayton says he's like

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Speaker 1: disgustingly consistent blah blah blah. Thankfully things happened on Wednesday morning,

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Speaker 1: So we have actual news. You have to be a

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Speaker 1: better adjective Slayton could have used than disgustingly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, yeah, I mean I got where he.

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Speaker 2: Was going with it. Disgustingly consistent, Like.

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Speaker 3: I like using filthy I mean I get it right,

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Speaker 3: exactly fifty good, filthy good, I get it.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, we do have actual news, starting with the

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Speaker 1: biggest news, which sort of puts a big piece in

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Speaker 1: the puzzle, and that is where she Rice is going

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Speaker 1: to serve a six game suspension to start the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five season. I know, last week on this show

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Speaker 1: we talked about the report that maybe he wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: get his hearing until late septem and then when would

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Speaker 1: the discipline come and how long would it be, So

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Speaker 1: now we've got to put everything together. We know how

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Speaker 1: long it is, six games, we know when it starts

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. So with all this information, Florida,

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Speaker 1: where are you comfortable taking Rashi Rice if you have

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Speaker 4: I think the sixth round feels like a sweet spot

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Speaker 4: for him because like when Rashi Rice is out there,

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Speaker 4: I still think he brings wide receiver one upside. We

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Speaker 4: saw what he was doing last year, We saw what

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Speaker 4: he did in the preseason and the limited snaps that

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Speaker 4: he got to play there, And I think this is

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Speaker 4: best case scenario because if you were going in blinde

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Speaker 4: knowing how long it was going to be, would it

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Speaker 4: carry over to the fantasy playoffs? To me, I was

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Speaker 4: out on him in that range because it's just too

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Speaker 4: big of a risk we don't know. But now we

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Speaker 4: know six games first four weeks, there's no buys, so

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Speaker 4: you have everyone else on your lineup ready for you

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Speaker 4: just plug in. So I'm in on Rashid Rice. The

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Speaker 4: only thing I'll say is I don't think you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Lakwan, you cooled round six. I know

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Speaker 2: you were. You were like actually scheming to.

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Speaker 1: How to draft for she Rice, even without knowing what

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Speaker 1: the discipline was going to be. But now that you

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Speaker 1: have some clarity, I'm assuming your plans are round again

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, by the dick, baby, Look, I have him

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Speaker 3: as my wide receiver three in one of the leagues

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Speaker 3: that I'm gonna pay a lot of attention to, and

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Speaker 3: I think that is the perfect place to even target him.

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Speaker 3: And like there's some leagues where you guys are just

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Speaker 3: in the middle of season. No, we got six games.

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Speaker 3: He's coming back against the Raiders, and I know the

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Speaker 3: bye week is like two weeks after that, which is fine.

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Speaker 3: Like this guy was coming off of a torn acl

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Speaker 3: Like I think folks forget, like we still were gambling

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Speaker 3: with him coming back from this injury where we haven't

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Speaker 3: seen him at full game speed yet. So now that

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Speaker 3: we get the clarity of like, all right, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be going for six weeks. He is going only be

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Speaker 3: full health, ready to go. And if my team is

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Speaker 3: ringing off, how I believe it's going to be with

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Speaker 3: in some of these leagues where I feel like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to dominate at the wide receiver position when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the fantasy playoffs. And look, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: he he showed us like, hey, this may be the

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Speaker 3: that with the upgraded old line, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have Patrick Mahomes locked in on Rashid Rice once he

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Speaker 3: comes back, it's going to be a heavy target share

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Speaker 3: for folks that are able to buy the.

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Speaker 1: Dip on Yeah. I mean, I definitely think I've been

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Speaker 1: in on the idea of Patrick Mahomes having a bounce

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Speaker 1: some of it is, Look, I just drapped them in.

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Speaker 1: I just I literally just took Marquise Brown in like

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Speaker 3: You said markuis Brown. I'm glad you said markis Brown.

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Speaker 3: He has to earn that Hollywood and Brown name because

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Speaker 3: we haven't seen Hollywood and Ye in.

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Speaker 1: A few years. Yeah, it's been like it's the point

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Speaker 1: now that I'm looking up suburbs of Hollywood, Florida, right because,

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Speaker 3: Literally given us the actual current state of Hollywood right

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Speaker 1: Know, okay, since we're on that right, Hollywood in Las.

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Speaker 2: This is where I was.

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Speaker 4: It's LA's Times Square. And as a New York native,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I have friends who're like, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'll see tomorrow. I'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: You can if you make it home.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to get to parking socks. And yeah, once

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Speaker 1: need to do it again.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool.

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Speaker 4: Another name on the ground. Oh cool, name on the ground.

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Speaker 1: It gets very repetitive, very quick, exactly. So anyway, Marquis Brown,

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Speaker 4: Brown, by the way, I and I'm worthy. I'm on

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Speaker 4: all of the chiefs receivers for exactly the reasons you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they're going to be more

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Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, there's gonna be less

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Speaker 2: On mister Swift in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 4: But what do I know.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a different offense this

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to look more like the offenses

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Speaker 4: He might be pretty good at football.

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Speaker 1: I think he's okay. I think he's decent. You might

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Speaker 1: Panthers have traded Adam Feelin back home. Who says you

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Speaker 1: can't go home again? Adam Feeling's going back to the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. We had a chance to talk to both

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Speaker 1: Adam Feeling and Xavier League get the during the offseason,

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Speaker 1: and go back through our YouTube channel, you can find

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Speaker 1: those I know you posted. You reposted Florida the Feeling

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Speaker 1: Mike's Twitter feed and find that there. Uh but lakwan,

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Speaker 1: no more Adam Feeling in Carolina? What does this mean

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Speaker 1: to you? For the rest of the wide receivers there.

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Speaker 3: I'm in on Jalen Coker like I've seen enough from him.

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Speaker 3: then obviously in the preseason, like he could be a

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Speaker 3: deep threat, you know for Bryce Young and obviously you

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Speaker 3: have Tetrod McMillan there, Xavier Lee get Friend of the Show.

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Speaker 3: I do feel like, you know, Jalen Coker right now

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Speaker 3: is the under radar, you know, wide receiver if I

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Speaker 3: have deeper leagues, deeper benches, if I have like seven

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Speaker 3: or less benches, obviously you're not going to be drafting him.

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Speaker 3: But I do think like him acting as possibly the

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Speaker 3: wide receiver too, or the second target option is in

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Speaker 3: this offense where it'll play a huge role you know

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Speaker 3: later in the season if he blossoms into this role

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Speaker 3: and I can honestly see him having like seventy catches,

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Speaker 3: wit Bryce shown taking this step forward in this Panther's offense,

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Speaker 3: Adam Thielen, you know, going back Home, you know, you

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Speaker 1: Is a flat back, Baby time is a flat circle.

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Speaker 1: kind of like the Ribella Like he just you know,

435
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Speaker 1: you just gotta stole.

436
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Speaker 3: Wait until we get Hoodie Hoodie Nicks. It's gonna there

437
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Speaker 3: we go. When he thought that Hoodie and it's gonna

438
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Speaker 3: be a problem watch all right?

439
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Speaker 1: All right. By the way, we didn't mention Tommy DeVito

440
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,920
Speaker 1: is a free agent again.

441
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 4: The Patriots picked him up today.

442
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh really, so with him.

443
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Speaker 4: I will change my answer to Tommy DeVito because I

444
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,360
Speaker 4: got but I will support Tommy DeVito. He could play

445
00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,159
Speaker 4: Patriots Division roll root for him.

446
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Speaker 1: I don't care.

447
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 2: But what happens if he overtakes your boy Drake may Well.

448
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 4: That's not like Honestly, the Saints should have picked him up.

449
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 4: It would He would be the best quarterback on the

450
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Speaker 4: Saints round.

451
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Speaker 1: Locked in with Spencer Rattler right, like the rattler like

452
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 1: they should hand out They should hand out rattles at.

453
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: Saints games, right, and just have people rattle them whenever.

454
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 4: For all three games for you know, because like you

455
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 4: thought streaming the Cardinals defense week one, if you.

456
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 1: Thought theas were it were annoying at that one World

457
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 1: Cup in South Africa, imagine like fifty thousand people shaking

458
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 1: rattles for team. He'll be like, I don't want to play,

459
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,520
Speaker 1: like I'm just annoyed. I can't be here anymore. You're

460
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,159
Speaker 1: rid at eye quarterback. No surprise to anybody who's been

461
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast.

462
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've probably heard me talk about this. I talked

463
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 4: about him on Fantasy Live today. I'm talking about him now.

464
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: My dom Touretto at the quarterback position is Justin Fields.

465
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 4: Why because he runs and that right, Like, that's why

466
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 4: Josh Allen and Lamar are the top two. Jaden is three,

467
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 4: hurts his four. We want running quarterbacks after the top five.

468
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone brings more upside than Justin Fields.

469
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Speaker 4: We've seen him be at QB six with the Bears,

470
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 4: he was on pace to be at QB six with

471
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Speaker 4: the Steelers last year. He's one of three quarterbacks ever

472
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 4: to run for a thousand yards. He's the most rushing

473
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Speaker 4: quarterback yards by a quarterback in any single game. I

474
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Speaker 4: think we're gonna get a toush push there so he

475
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 4: could run for a thousand and double digital touchdowns. And

476
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Speaker 4: then I also think he's gonna have a career year

477
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 4: as a passer because of what Tanner Anksting is going

478
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,479
Speaker 4: to set up, Like the Lions had very efficient not

479
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 4: asking him to air the ball out. So I love

480
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Speaker 4: Justin Fields. And the thing is I have him as

481
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Speaker 4: my QB six. I don't draft him as the six

482
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Speaker 4: quarterback because his ADP is closer to two. So I'll

483
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 4: take him something like QB nine or ten and just

484
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,479
Speaker 4: keep getting that discount, all right.

485
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of folks love Fields.

486
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 1: I think it's it's easy to sort of get him

487
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: where he's going. So that is obviously a big plus there,

488
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 1: and I do see the upside. We still don't know

489
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: if he's a good real life fantasy a real life quarterback.

490
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: We know he's a good fantasy quarterback, and I think

491
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 1: that's same thing with you.

492
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: All that matters.

493
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, we don't know. We don't know if

494
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: my guys are a good real life quarterback. We're still

495
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: waiting to see if Patrick Mahomes can figure it out

496
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But he is a guy that I

497
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: am targeting heavily in drafts because I do believe that

498
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Speaker 1: this is the bounce back here, and honestly, this is

499
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 1: the cheapest Mahomes has been probably since he became a starter.

500
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, you know, like I was watching the

501
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs preseason game the other day, and you know, just

502
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: you wonder. You don't think about it, but when you

503
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: hear it that every year he's been a starter. The

504
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: worst he has done is end in the AFC Championship Game.

505
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: Like seven years is a starter. I don't enjoy that

506
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: AFC Championship games. I mean, I get it, but like

507
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 1: it's just sort of mind boggling, you know that that's

508
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: the thing. And the last couple of years, it hasn't

509
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: been the Mahomes that we all, you know, in fantasy

510
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: fell in love with, with the big numbers, you know,

511
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: the five thousand yards, the forty touchdowns, like that hasn't

512
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: been there. I do believe this is the year they

513
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: get back to that. Now. Obviously, you know Marquise Brown,

514
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: you need him to get healthy, Rashie Rice once he

515
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: gets off of suspension. But we've seen what they've been

516
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: able to do with Xavier Worthy. You know, Travis Kelsey

517
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: is still going to be involved in the offense. There's

518
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: still a lot of pieces there. And I think that

519
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: this is the year that Mahomes reminds us that he

520
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: can still be an absolutely elite quarterback, both in real

521
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: football and in fantasy football. And the fact that you know,

522
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: he's still hanging around in you know, the sixth seventh round, just.

523
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: Outside that tier of elits.

524
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm willing to pay that price pretty much all day

525
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: anytime I get the opportunity.

526
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: In this one preseason game, over ten are yards per attempt, yeah,

527
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 4: which is huge. I mean last year was like six,

528
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 4: So we just need more airing it out.

529
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: That's all that we were moving a lot in that

530
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 3: pocket too. That boy might be running more.

531
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing we don't really talk about. He runs.

532
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: He runs enough to make it worthwhile. Like we know

533
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: that the air yards, we know the passing yards he's

534
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: going to get.

535
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: You know, we're never going to.

536
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: Confuse him with Justin Fields or Daniels, but you know

537
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: he'll get you a sneaky four hundred rushing yards if

538
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: you rushing touchdowns.

539
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 4: We hype up like I'm not disrespecting bon Nicks here though,

540
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 4: but like we hype up both like Caleb Williams, like

541
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 4: they add value with their legs. Mahomes does as well,

542
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: but we no one ever talks about it.

543
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: You don't talk about it anybody that starts with I

544
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 3: don't want to disrespect because it.

545
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 4: Sounds like Nicks isn't. But like bow Nicks ran for

546
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: what like for something, and Mahomes, yeah that as.

547
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: Well By the way, if I remember right, Caleb Williams

548
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: had more rushing yards than bone Knicks. Oh, here we go.

549
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were running for your life yards. These weren't

550
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: like you know, I can really get.

551
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: Score differently, Like they don't they don't fall in a

552
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: different category like, oh, they're running for your life yards,

553
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: so they only count for having in Chicago.

554
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: The trenches are fixed in Chicago, so he shouldn't have

555
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: to be running for his life.

556
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Flash. I've also said that Caleb can run similar to

557
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: the way mahomes like. I've said that all the time

558
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: the whole time, that like he can get out of

559
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: the pocket and run when he needs to. So, by

560
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: the way, you mentioned don Touretto, I saw a really

561
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: good fantasy team name. That's a fast and furious theme.

562
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: You didn't have me. You didn't have Jamar.

563
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm oh, man, I think I'm getting Jamar Chase in

564
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 4: my home. I'm just stealing that name.

565
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: Why my god, I don't know if that's a long

566
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: name though, Like I don't know it's going to be

567
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: because it's too long.

568
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: You didn't have me.

569
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Speaker 1: You didn't even have Jamar. There you go, that was

570
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 1: who will deliver presented by Uber Eats. When football makes

571
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573
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: it's get the running backs real quick before the break.

574
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: Lakwan your ride or die at running back. We are

575
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: riding dying for my guy. I mean, look, I know.

576
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: The fantasy streets have this trend where it's like, well,

577
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: last year, I told you no, in twenty twenty two,

578
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 3: I told you about Jordan Mason. Now I'm telling you

579
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: about him again in a Vikings uniform. Now there's going

580
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: to be a co pilot situation here one, A, one B,

581
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, with Aaron Jones. But it

582
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: is Jordan Mason season. I'm telling you. When it starts

583
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 3: to get cold outside Aaron Jones, you know he's up

584
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: there in age. He had a career high and touches

585
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: last season. It's going to be plugging play for Jordan Mason.

586
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: This system just completely fits him. Now when you look

587
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: at how the Vikings run their run game, they ran

588
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: the eighth highest outside zone scheme last season. And when

589
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: you look at that yards per carry that Jordan Mason

590
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: picked up over there in San Franz six point one

591
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 3: yards per carrying outside zone schemes and those runs, and

592
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 3: that is bread and butter for my guy, Jordan Mason.

593
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: I know you.

594
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean you're super hyped on him, like you've been

595
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: like hyped on him for a while now now, Yeah.

596
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 4: I don't really slice back on and I'm just like

597
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: I'm coming around. I like Jordan Mason. I'm on board

598
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 4: with him. The only thing I don't like is that

599
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 4: him and Aaron Jones go back to back in ADP,

600
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 4: Like you have no chance of even pairing them together,

601
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 4: Like I want a handcuff, like like it feels like

602
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: we're like he's the first making decisions fright ran Back rafted.

603
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that that discord.

604
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: That's sort of interesting because either because I feel like

605
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: with that that means either one is undervalued and one

606
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: is overvalued. I don't know which one yet.

607
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: So like he's going in the seventh round before then,

608
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: I think most rosters you should have two running backs.

609
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: There him as my RB three where I have no like,

610
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: you know, desire to star him immediately. That is bread

611
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: and butter. When he starts taking up you know, those

612
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: touches over Aaron Jones in the middle or late season,

613
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: like I'm thinking playoffs, like that's all I'm thinking about.

614
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: Like Jordan Mason is one of those guys that we've

615
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: seen last year be a workhorse and just completely dominate

616
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: with his opportunities.

617
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: I always have a hard time drafting a guy being

618
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: like I'm thinking playoffs, Like I get it, but also

619
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: like I got to make the playoffs before I can

620
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: start thinking about guys. I want to stow you in

621
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

622
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: And if Aaron Jones is healthy, he's not, He's never

623
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 4: going He's never going away. He needs to get hurt.

624
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 4: He could lose. I think they can lose Touches and Mason,

625
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 4: Like they could be fifty to fifty on the ground

626
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 4: with Jones getting the airwork. But I don't think Jones

627
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: completely goes away.

628
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's that's sort of the thing about

629
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: the about Aaron Jones. He's good.

630
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: I mean, that's my cousin. I ain't trying to, you know,

631
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: push him out the way. He's not Aaron Jones.

632
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should have seen where you only draft Joneses

633
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: like Daniel Jones is your quarterback.

634
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: Dag yes, Matt Jones.

635
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: Jones, Jones is running that's get Chris Jones. Yeah, I

636
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: got even people think you look.

637
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 3: Like my Domino ganger.

638
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't even know if there's enough like wide

639
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: receiver Jones, like you tell have the draft like Marvin Jones,

640
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: wo hadn't been in the league in a couple of.

641
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: Kobe Jones, bring him out of retirement, let's.

642
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: Go, Like I think wide receiver is where you'd have

643
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: a tough time. Uh with that?

644
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: It's rough all around?

645
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: All right, Florida, who's your rider?

646
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Died running back?

647
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: So I know I said, like like Justin Fields would

648
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 4: actually be like my Letty I guess and my Don

649
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 4: Tretto this year. I wish I still had it Travon

650
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: Henderson no matter what, Like I held up a sign

651
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 4: that said that on Fantasy Live today, I left it

652
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: down there. But I'm all about like I was saying,

653
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: I hate how hyped he's gone because it's making me

654
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: draft him at where I'm willing to still draft him,

655
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 4: Like I took him in a league on the two

656
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: three turn ahead of James Cook like two weeks ago.

657
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 4: I'm fine taking him in that range. I wish I

658
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: didn't have to, though, because I have him on a

659
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 4: bunch of teams, like he's on my Scott fish Ball team.

660
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 4: He's on all of these teams that drafted in like

661
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: July and early August, before the preseason, I was taking

662
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: him in the seventh, eighth round. Then it became the sixth,

663
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: the fifth, the fourth, and I just kept paying the

664
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: price because I think he's an RB one. I think

665
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: he has every single tool that you want in a

666
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: running back for fantasy purposes. I was telling you in

667
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: before the NFL Draft that I think he's better than

668
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: Omaron Hampton. We'll see if I'm right on that, but

669
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 4: I still stand by that, like there's no player I

670
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 4: want more at cost than Travion Henderson.

671
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Well, now apparently Adam Rank has thrown down the gaunt

672
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: to you for the NFL rank.

673
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: He's getting on board a little late, you know.

674
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: So I mentioned earlier in the week on Fantasy Live

675
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: that you were driving the hype train for Trevon Henderson,

676
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: and Rank says he's laid a claim to it. I

677
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: was like, well, Florio drafted him in the third reft

678
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Florias like Ranks, and I've also drafted him in the

679
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: third round. So now he's telling you that you have

680
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: to take we we did the one, the one two turns, Yeah,

681
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: because we played.

682
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: The segment is like how high will you go on

683
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: a player? And I got to round three and he

684
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: backed off and I was like I would have kept

685
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 4: it going, like I would have been like one oh one.

686
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not, I'm not back, and then

687
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 4: Rank was like I was at the hospital when he

688
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: was born, Like we had a lot of fun. I

689
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: think you should check out the segment. But yeah, I

690
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: have no problem with people being on board with Trevon Henderson.

691
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: I just I wish it happened in like week three

692
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 4: of the season and I had him for like seventh

693
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 4: round already.

694
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, fantasy streets that from happening. I've been on

695
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: dere Swift all off season are with this one, and

696
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm not changing my mind on that. We saw last

697
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: year in an offense that was still trying to figure

698
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: itself out, that he had maybe a career year, one

699
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: of his best seasons certainly in the NFL, both as

700
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: a rusher and getting the ball as a pass catcher.

701
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't think having Ben Johnson at the sticks is

702
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: going to change any of that. I think he's going

703
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: to get plenty of more opportunity in an offense that look,

704
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: the Bears will have their growing pains early. They were

705
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: up and down during the preseason, without a doubt, but

706
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: I think they're going to figure it out as the

707
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: season goes along. On top of it, there's just no

708
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: real backfield competition for DeAndre Swift. I think the Rashawn

709
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: Johnson experiment is pretty much coming to an end. I

710
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: just don't see anybody else that's going to go in

711
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: there and take any real opportunities from Swift. So the

712
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: fact that he's still hanging around kind of in that

713
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: fourth fifth round area, you know, being drafted. He's being

714
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: drafted kind of as a high end running back too,

715
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: but I think the ceiling is a kind of a

716
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: low end running back one situation for him. I'm in

717
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: on DeAndre Swift as I was frustrated this CBS draft.

718
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: I had them all cued up. I think it's Jamie

719
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: Eisenberg or this Heath Commings. Maybe I can't.

720
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: I know he likes him a lot, took him a

721
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: pick or two before another player though that like two

722
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: months ago. I know we on this show, I think

723
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: we all like him, but like two months ago or

724
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: a month ago, like Swift wasn't going this early. Like

725
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: he's been a big ADP climber in the last couple

726
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: of weeks.

727
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely been a big riser in the last couple of weeks.

728
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 3: People think that Ben Johnson hate him.

729
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

730
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't know where that came from at all, And

731
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: like he just spoke about it.

732
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: He chose Premier Gibbs over him, Okay, like running back

733
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: maybe besides Bajan, you know.

734
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: Like okay, yeah, sure, okay, yeah, I don't know. Man,

735
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: this is the time where people start reading into things

736
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily there just because we because the content

737
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: machine demands grist for the mill, like it just it

738
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: grinds us to death and we have to keep coming

739
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: up with stuff. And so that you don't.

740
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: Shout out to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey because they

741
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: gave the world something to talk football wise, to talk

742
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 4: about besides having to throw out ridiculous takes with no

743
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: football being on this week and like everyone having fatigue

744
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 4: to get to the season. So shout out to the Swifts.

745
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I guess so, man, I just Swift, Taylor, DeAndre, all

746
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: of them, all the.

747
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: DeAndre, all the time.

748
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not a fan of this, but I'll keep

749
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: my thoughts to myself.

750
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: You better because you don't want you but the Swiftest

751
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: different thing.

752
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: You're gonna be at your house tonight.

753
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: You don't want them in your mentions.

754
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm good. I played with the Bee High before with Beyonce,

755
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: you know, in the early days of Twitter, and that

756
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: was a big mistake.

757
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: Here's a rule of thumb. This is the rule that

758
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: I live by on social media. If your fan base

759
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: has a nickname, you do not talk about that person. Rihanna,

760
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: the Swifties, the Navy. I don't know if the Katie

761
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Cats are the Rihanna Navy.

762
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 4: I didn't know that that was her fan base.

763
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the Navy is the Navy.

764
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: Is go ahead say something, I dare you.

765
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: I I just thought you.

766
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Go ahead out fan base has a nickname, just just

767
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: don't good or bad because like somebody will misinterpret it

768
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: and your mentions are a wreck. Just don't do it.

769
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: The barbs I think of Nicky the.

770
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 3: Guy ate up.

771
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break where Lakwan will tell us

772
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: his real thoughts about the Swift Kelsey union. They will

773
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: come back. Rider dies next the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

774
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: So now that we told the Kwan where the Swifts

775
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: and Kelsey's are registered for their wedding, we can get

776
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: back to the rest of our rider dies. Here we'll

777
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: dive into wide receivers. Look one, who who's your rider

778
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: diet wide out this year?

779
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: Now, this was my ride to died last season where

780
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: I was saying, this guy has top five potential. It

781
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: is Drake freaking London man. And you gotta say the

782
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 3: name like that because every Sunday that's what you're gonna

783
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: be saying, like, God, why didn't I draft this guy?

784
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: He's putting thirty on my head right now as my

785
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: opponent is just sitting there happy to have him. So

786
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: I've been drafting a lot of Drake London. He's my

787
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: top exposure player just based on Michael Pennix and what

788
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: he brings to this offense. Now we know they've been

789
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: flirting with his athleticism. I said it before with Zach Robinson,

790
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: him getting sideline sideline, moving in and out of that pocket,

791
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: but more importantly last season those three games from Week

792
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 3: sixteen to eighteen, he led all quarterbacks in air yards. Obviously,

793
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: there is a need in want to air the ball

794
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: out to Drake London. I've spoken before of how his

795
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 3: yards per reception increased from eleven yards to sixteen yards.

796
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: Now imagine that on a full seventeen game pace. Man,

797
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Drake London has potential to crack that

798
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: top five. And it's going to be from out of

799
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: nowhere where he's going in the early second round. It's

800
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: really crazy.

801
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I don't know if it's out

802
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And I do agree that he has the

803
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: potential top to crack the top five. I totally do.

804
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 3: Wait, Marcus, am I doing it right?

805
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: Don't?

806
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: Am I doing it right?

807
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: A little bit too much?

808
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Rest, It's more like it's more more elbow, you know, yeah,

809
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: like there, there you go. More like that, there you go,

810
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: good job. I like this. It's like it's like a

811
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: bunny rabbit hopping, like what are you doing. The one

812
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: thing that I'm not gonna say about Drake London this year,

813
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: because We've said it too many years in a row

814
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: about the Falcons, is well, the quarterback plays got to

815
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: be better, right, Like we keep saying that and then

816
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: we keep being disappointed. So while I hope that Michael

817
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Pennix is better than what we've seen. I'm not. I'm

818
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: just I'm tired of throwing that out there as a

819
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: reason for Drake London. But I do think I think

820
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: target share, I think ability of all those things factor

821
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: he's great.

822
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: We know he's got all the talent.

823
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred air yards per game, that's what he

824
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: had with Panis in those three games. Man, that's all

825
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 3: I need to hear and all I need to know.

826
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then why don't you like Chris

827
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: o'lave Uh?

828
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Why is he in the satchel of discontent?

829
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 3: He is forever going to live there's your best ability.

830
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: But he was captain air yards for years.

831
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Captain Airyards, Captain mid as well. We're good to go.

832
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: He is not going to be.

833
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 4: With Drake May. And I like Drake many I have

834
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: him in my top ten. Like, oh, I'm sorry, Yeah,

835
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: Drake London is like what I said this like two

836
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: months ago, Like what if Michael Panics just isn't that guy?

837
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that dude?

838
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: Like and and I know he's gonna air the ball

839
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 4: out a lot, but like defenses know that as well,

840
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: and like it's a lot easier to game plan when

841
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: you have a full summer to game plan for someone.

842
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: Then when but you got a running back named Bajean Robinson,

843
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: though them safeties are going to be pulled back because

844
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: of a vertical attack, But then that just leaves Bijon

845
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: to go crazy. You're not gonna want Bjeon going crazy,

846
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: so you're gonna have to pull them forward. Like there's

847
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: a lot of cat and mouse. They're gonna have to

848
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: play with this offense. Like I'm heavily invested in this

849
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: Falcons offense just based on you know, Bijeon being Bajeon.

850
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I keep doing that. Why do I keep

851
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: doing It's so hard to get used to. But Bajeon

852
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: is obviously my one on one. But then I'm investing

853
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: in a Darnell Mooney as well. That's like sneaky right now,

854
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: get yeah, super It's like people forgot he's on the team.

855
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't play it all preseason.

856
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Still not understanding why, Like everything you said about Drake

857
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: London and the Falcons offense, like it could have translated

858
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: into the Saints the last couple of years, right because

859
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: because Alvin Kamara is a dude, you didn't want him

860
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: going crazy on you, right, if you're pulling your safeties

861
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: back at least like I get it this year, like total,

862
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: I understand this year while you're not in Saints. I

863
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: just don't understand why, like all the things that apply

864
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: to Drake London didn't apply to Chris o'lave before.

865
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm just just because Chris olave was going in the

866
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 3: first round of Garrett Wilson and then people were burned.

867
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: I think Drake London was the guy that was just

868
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: going like way after those guys. Now we need to

869
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: start putting respect on his name and draft.

870
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: For the second round.

871
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: I took him at the one eleven a lot of

872
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: drafts because I didn't want to take that risk here.

873
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: So I'm willing to go before Brian Thomas. I mean,

874
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm willing to reach up.

875
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: Ahead of just stress testing your theories.

876
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: That's all. I'm just trying to do that. Now.

877
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 3: That's when New Orleans.

878
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: No, I get it. I don't understand we're not.

879
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: That's what the Saints this year.

880
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: If I call correctly, your rider die wide receiver this

881
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: year is the same as it might have been last year.

882
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Maybe probably maybe I.

883
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: Love Molik neighbors I always have. I remember last season

884
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: in March when everyone was calling me a hot take

885
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 4: artist and a clickbait artist because I had him ranked

886
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: ahead of Marvin Harrison Junior as a prospect. The reason

887
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: I did that is because he There's not a thing

888
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: he cannot do on the football field. Like he could

889
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 4: win downfield. We didn't see that last year. That was

890
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: a Giants quarterback problem. That wasn't an elite neighbors problem.

891
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 4: He could win after the catch. He's an elite route runner,

892
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 4: elite hands, great in the red and end zone. Like again,

893
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: he had a better rookie season than Jamar Chase and

894
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson did, and he did it with Danny. I

895
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 4: was called Danny DeVito, Danny Times, Tommy DeVito, Drew Locke,

896
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: and Tim Boyle. He's got three quarterbacks on his roster

897
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 4: now that are better than anyone they had last year.

898
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: I have him ranked as my wide receiver four, but

899
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: I think he could finish this year as the wide

900
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: receiver one if touchdown variants goals his way. He is

901
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: my pick to be the offensive player of the year

902
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 4: and to lead the league in receiving yards.

903
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants probably one injury away from starting.

904
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito honestly watched Its Sun an amazing episode of Sonny

905
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: If Jersey If Frank Reynolds was playing quarterback for the

906
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Amazing.

907
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Mind's the guy I've been talking about all.

908
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: All summer long. That's Jamison Williams. I think this is

909
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: the last year I thought was kind of a breakout season.

910
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I think this is the year he truly makes the leap.

911
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: We see how explosive he is, we see all the

912
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: things he can do. I like that John Morton is

913
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: trying to open up the route tree for him and

914
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: and do more things with him and get the ball

915
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: in his hands as much as possible. I've been saying

916
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: I think he leads the Lions in receiving yards. Maybe

917
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: not maybe receptions, but receiving yards. I think he can

918
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: lead them in. And the fact that he's still kind

919
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: of a sixth round pick, I think is a big,

920
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: big bargain for a lot of folks. So yeah, I'm

921
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: still in on the Lions offense. Maybe it's not quite

922
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: as explosive as it was with Ben Johnson, but I

923
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: still think it's gonna be very good. And I still

924
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: think j Miss and William is gonna be a key

925
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: part of it this year.

926
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 4: And we're gonna get more downfield throwing because there's no

927
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 4: way we can't. The line have been bottom two deep

928
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 4: pass attempts every year.

929
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: So so I heard that teslaw stock is going up

930
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 3: as well.

931
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: I'm with you on a s I want as much

932
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: as I could.

933
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: Get is slow.

934
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Like I I know that they love him and like

935
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: everything I read about him has been super positive. There's

936
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: just so much competition for him to get targets.

937
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: Right, he's probably fifth at death.

938
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: Because you know, I mean it's going to be.

939
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: I'mn raw fifth.

940
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 3: Wait, hold up, think.

941
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: About it, i'mna Jamo Laporta, Gibbs Yep.

942
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

943
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 3: Got Laporta a little bit lower.

944
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: I got you think a rookie, I think, and get

945
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: more targets to Sam Laporta.

946
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: John Morton that has no loyalty to Sam Laporta. And

947
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 3: there has been nothing entire sum good. But look at

948
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: the competition. So is Tesla. I mean, come on, now,

949
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: we've all the pres he could not stop scoring.

950
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, one was gonna make a wide receiver three and

951
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: the other is your your tight end, tight end like Yeah,

952
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 4: who's got nine hundred yards and double digit touchdowns under

953
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: his belt.

954
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm not in on the porter. That's basically I'm not

955
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: either at cost.

956
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be targeting more than yeah, than Tesla.

957
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean right now, the biggest thing to hear about

958
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: Tesla is like he's a great blocker and he's really tough.

959
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: Like that's cool.

960
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna help him get on the field this year.

961
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: Could be in Detroit, that's all.

962
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: This is where I think preseason gets to like, like,

963
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: I get it. He was a great preseason player. He

964
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: had a couple of nice catches. He could be a

965
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: great dynasty pick and stuff. He's not gonna outproduce Sam Laporta.

966
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: That's my thinking.

967
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you.

968
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: That's get us.

969
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: That does get us to tight end? Fitting enough, Oh,

970
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: let's do it. Yeah, I Quand this is not a

971
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: name I was expecting to see.

972
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: Is your rider die tight end this year?

973
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: I have to be honest. I was heavily influenced by

974
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: Isaiah Stanby because every day in the green room for

975
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: Good Morning Football, like fantasy comes up obviously with Manti

976
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 3: and like Jake Ferguson's name just keeps popping up, and

977
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: like I'm starting to come around to it where I've

978
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: taken him in my recent drafts these last two weeks

979
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: as my tight end one, Like he's going way later

980
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: than rest of the other tight ends that we coin

981
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: and champion, but he's made sense to me of where

982
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have to make a business decision on

983
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: George Pickens Cede Lamb, that just leaves the middle of

984
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 3: the field wide open when you have Brian Schottenheimer calling

985
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: the shots again, and the last time he did that

986
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: was twenty twenty three, where this offense was raving as

987
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: top five in all major categories. When you look at

988
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, Jake Ferguson led all tight ends in

989
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 3: red zone targets the touchdowns is exactly where I want

990
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: to be. He had twenty three red zone targets twenty

991
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: three And I'm looking at this as like, Wow, these

992
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: safeties and cover two, they're gonna have to worry about

993
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: the middle of the field now because Jake Ferguson's going

994
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: to be lighting it up most weeks. Where you're gonna

995
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: have Jake Ferguson healthy. Of course, where I do think

996
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: that he's going to be a tight end. We're just

997
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: gonna not really just have on our radars and then

998
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna look, it's week four or five and we're like, yo,

999
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: why is this guy at the top of the boards?

1000
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: I need some more air yards out of Jake Ferguson.

1001
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: That's all eighty six targets turned into four hundred and

1002
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: ninety four yards like need I need.

1003
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: Hey, relax man.

1004
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: And he had the same man. He had the same

1005
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: number of touchdowns as all three of us combined.

1006
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: Like, dog, I know you're not talking about last season.

1007
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: It was a train wreck last year under McCarthy, Like,

1008
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: I mean, look how I look at last year.

1009
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: It was a wash.

1010
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: It was a wash that SA got hurt.

1011
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: I guess I can't get that.

1012
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: I'm not sold that Brian Schottenheimer is going to be

1013
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: some new magic potion to like unlock this offense.

1014
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: I mean he was the OC last year, so like

1015
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: the last.

1016
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Year and like literally it was like it was like

1017
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was looking for a new head coach. He

1018
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: just poked his head out of his office like pointed

1019
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the first person.

1020
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: He saw, but shot he was the play caller. In

1021
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, though that was the last time he

1022
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: was actually calling the shots, and then Mike McCarthy his

1023
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: last year, He's gonna go down with the ship, very selfish.

1024
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: You know, you're gonna go down on the sword. You're

1025
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: gonna go down my way. And that's why that offense

1026
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 3: looked the way it looked in twenty twenty four.

1027
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 4: I like Jake Ferguson as a tight end two, like

1028
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: I have him ranked as a tight end one. But

1029
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't want to leave my draft with him as

1030
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 4: my tight end one.

1031
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, that's the thing, Like I don't.

1032
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable with him as a tight end one. If.

1033
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: But but you.

1034
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Also said, Lawan, you're like down to just like wait

1035
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: and figure it out. In the back end of.

1036
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: Low key, like at like two in the morning, me

1037
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: and you were sleeping, Lakwan's over here talking Jake Ferguson

1038
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: getting ready for his.

1039
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Fantasy You're up there on GMFB like it's called gm

1040
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: f f B, Good morning Fantasy Football. Like that's what you.

1041
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: Should there, you go, Hey, Mike, got something there, Let's go.

1042
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: I should have said out loud, because now they're gonna

1043
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: make us get up at like three o'clock in the morning. Yes,

1044
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: let's go join join the great Yard. I mean, as

1045
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: long as I can do it from my house. They

1046
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: don't care. If I don't look pretty, that's fine, then

1047
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: we can do it.

1048
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 4: I'm willing to do it. They're not gonna app ask us.

1049
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: There's no way they're going to ask us. You could

1050
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: go first year because I kind of stole your answer. Oh,

1051
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: you had it down first. This is the part of

1052
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: the show where we talk about Tyler Warren.

1053
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: Let's go because we haven't talked about Tyms enough this offseason.

1054
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: I literally almost did it.

1055
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: This is a part of clean should should have just done.

1056
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: We should make a clean sweep of Tyler Warren, like

1057
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: all the way down on our Rider died tight ends.

1058
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm I will admit that some of it is watching

1059
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 1: him do everything but kick extra points against USC last year,

1060
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: but also just you look at the body of work

1061
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: he had and what he did at Penn State, and

1062
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: it was absolutely incredible. They couldn't line him up pretty

1063
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: much anywhere. He seemed to be able to run most

1064
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: any route they would throw him the ball. He was

1065
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: able to, you know, make contested catches. He was good

1066
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: after the catch. He did a lot of things, and

1067
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: I know that sometimes we can overvalue what we see

1068
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: in the preseason, but the one thing I noticed when

1069
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I watched the Colts is that when he was on

1070
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: the field, they were throwing him the football. He was

1071
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: out there, he was running routes, they were throwing in

1072
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: the ball. Maybe they do use him occasionally as an

1073
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: inline blocker, but it does seemed like for the most part,

1074
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: the role for Tyler Warren is you go out there,

1075
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: you run routes, you get open, We're gonna throw you

1076
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: the football. And because Danny checked down, Dimes is gonna

1077
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: be the quarterback at least for the time being. Short

1078
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: quick throws seem to favor having the tight end of

1079
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I just as much as

1080
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I can get Tyler Warren, I'm happy to do.

1081
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: It same And just like Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson statistically

1082
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 4: at his best targeting the middle of the field, that's

1083
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: gonna be Tyler Warren's area to run. I said on

1084
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 4: Monday that I was thinking about moving Tyler Warren up

1085
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: into my top five.

1086
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: Did you do it?

1087
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: He's my tight end four. I put him ahead of

1088
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 4: the portal who we just discussed and then Hawkinson because

1089
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 4: I do think the feeling trade. My thinking with Hawkinson

1090
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 4: was he as a runway to become the number two target.

1091
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 4: Now that there's target competition starting week one, and then

1092
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: once Addison is back, there's a lot of competition there,

1093
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 4: first time quarterback, all of that. I still like Hockinson,

1094
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: like I'll but I took him Warren over Hawkinson the

1095
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 4: other day in a in a draft, and I thought

1096
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 4: about it a lot, and I was like, you know what,

1097
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I would do that every time. So

1098
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 4: I need to change the ranks, all right, And so

1099
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: tight end four after the big three.

1100
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: So this has gone from being the NFL Fantasy Football

1101
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: podcast with episode of hot Ones, we just we just

1102
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: got spice all over the place.

1103
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be. It's not consensus, no, but

1104
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: like more and more people are moving him up and

1105
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 4: up and up, Like I get it if you want,

1106
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: like an Ingram or Andrews, but I think I think

1107
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 4: no one has more upside.

1108
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: I don't know either of than Warrens.

1109
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: Warren and you compare him with Ferguson as like your two.

1110
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 4: Like i I'm usually taking a tight end to just

1111
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: in case. But I believe in Tyler Warren like I

1112
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 4: have King's Classic. He's my only tight end on my roster,

1113
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: and that's a fourteen team league.

1114
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in. I'm all in now, I'm I'm afraid.

1115
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't want him to become Dalton Kincaid. But why

1116
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: would you say that.

1117
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 4: He's brought? That's who he is.

1118
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: If it's an elbow, it's an elbow to myself because

1119
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: I was huge on Kinkaid.

1120
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: I don't take it personally.

1121
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: I know, kid, I'm elbowing myself because that's the way

1122
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel about Warning is how I felt about Kinkaid.

1123
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: So like you know, shots fired on Will.

1124
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit in on Kincaid at a like

1125
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: tightened four.

1126
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: No, you're nice ad.

1127
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 4: If he was going tight end seven again, like I'd

1128
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: be like, nah, no way, Pitts d kin kid, because

1129
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: he's tied to a quarterback.

1130
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: That's that's the only I think.

1131
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: Is Dawson Knock still around?

1132
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: Is he?

1133
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 2: Is he still one Dawson Knock?

1134
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: All right?

1135
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Arry is still hanging around.

1136
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: He just literally didn't here. Yeah, say damn, it's like that.

1137
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: I like Dulston Knox. He's a cool guy. He's on

1138
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: his last year of his contract too, though, so I

1139
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: think they're they're looking ahead. Kid is going to take

1140
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 4: over it.

1141
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: I heard he's acting now too, So he has cater

1142
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: Cador Knox, Dawson Dawson Knox Dawson.

1143
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: Who's he going to get engaged to? I mean, if

1144
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 4: he's going the acting.

1145
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen already married an actress, Travis is marrying, Uh,

1146
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest pop star in the world, and

1147
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, so Dawson Knox got to get in on that.

1148
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: He's going to get like I don't know. I was

1149
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: going to think of like a celest actress, but no

1150
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: one came to mind.

1151
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because because actresses in your head.

1152
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: Some women from like a Hallmark movie or something like that.

1153
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: One last thing before we get out of here. I

1154
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: threw this in the rundown just for s's and g's,

1155
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: as Adam Rank would say. Always, you know this time

1156
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: a year where leagues are getting together, they're maybe coming

1157
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: up with rule changes in this sort of thing. So

1158
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: it made me think, what rules would you like to

1159
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: see implemented or changed in fantasy football? Uh? Laqui, I

1160
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: don't know if you have a feel you feel like

1161
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: somebody who would have a list of things like you

1162
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: just pull out like a CVS receipt, long list of

1163
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 1: rules and extra bonus points per touchdown.

1164
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 3: As a former commissioner for my you know, home league

1165
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: with my homies high school, I was pulling out the

1166
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: CVS list and trying to convince them. But in the

1167
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: leagues that I'm still strapped to DST for the defenses,

1168
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: I do think we should get points for turnovers on downs,

1169
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: Like it should be like as much as four points,

1170
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 3: like at least like that is a huge feat for

1171
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: the defense to turn the ball over on downs, like

1172
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 3: there should be some type of point system for that.

1173
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 4: I agree.

1174
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: I like that. No, I do like that. I like that.

1175
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: That being said, I mean, I guess you couldn't call

1176
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: it a turnover for the offense because there's no one

1177
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,959
Speaker 1: specific person that you give.

1178
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 2: It to you, but the defense can get points.

1179
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: It should just be like a like an interception and

1180
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: fumble recovery is two that should also be too. You know,

1181
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 4: it's the same thing.

1182
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

1183
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm proud with that. Anything you'd like to change, Flooria.

1184
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 4: I have two that came to mind. One I think

1185
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: wide receiver, any position, but the receivers should get point,

1186
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: like a point or two points or whatever if they

1187
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: draw a pass interference like that is a game changing

1188
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: penalty you could draw potentially, and in fantasy we're just

1189
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: like all right, well, I guess that doesn't mean anything

1190
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: thing for us. The other thing is, look, I know

1191
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 4: people like kickers. I know you are a supporter of kickers,

1192
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: Marcus Boos. Leagues, kickers are the only position that cannot

1193
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: lose points. I think kickers should lose points for miss kicks.

1194
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's catholic. I feel like I've played in the leagues.

1195
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: I think there's some it's not the norm, right, but

1196
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 4: like I think it should be inverted, right, Like if

1197
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: you miss a fifty yarder, say that's minus three. If

1198
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: you miss a thirty yarder, that's minus five because like.

1199
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: You got a join my home league, it's minus fifty yarder.

1200
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played in leagues where you can lose points

1201
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: for miss kicks. Well, I think the leagues I've played in,

1202
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: like if you miss a well, it used to me

1203
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: if you missed a fifty yarder, it was zero points

1204
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: or whatever, because that was when fifty yarders were rare,

1205
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: but like now everybody kicks fifty.

1206
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, like that should be the lowest negative. But like

1207
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: I play like you hear about people in leagues right there,

1208
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: like I'm up two points and I have a defense,

1209
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: do I sit them? You never hear that about kickers

1210
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 4: because in most leagues they can't lose points.

1211
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's absolutely the case.

1212
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: That miss extra point negative ten.

1213
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: If he was an extra point like that.

1214
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 3: Bruh, that should I'm not playing the league.

1215
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: And that should be nearly should be nearly apocalyptic if

1216
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: you miss an extra point like it should be. I

1217
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: still truly believe and always will believe that that pick

1218
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: sixes should be minus six for your quarterback.

1219
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: I'm on board with that. I never thought of that,

1220
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: but I like.

1221
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: That if your quarterback throws an interception that leads directly

1222
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: to way touchdown, that should you know, you should the

1223
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: most minus eight minus two for minus two for the interception,

1224
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: and then six points for the touchdown.

1225
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: So that should be as pick six should be minus

1226
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: eight point.

1227
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: If you're in the quarterbacks in his red zone and

1228
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 4: it happens and it's like a nine minus ten or

1229
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: something like that, Yeah, that's.

1230
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: Start a quarterback.

1231
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: We don't even start a quarterback, just start a quarterback.

1232
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: It's like, don't start Matt Shaw.

1233
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: But like, that's what I'm saying, Like, don't start guys

1234
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: who throw pick sixes a lot, like, because it's a

1235
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: catastrophic play for your real team, it should be a

1236
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: catastrophic play for your fantasy team.

1237
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: Look, we're a Jameis Winston pod. I don't want to

1238
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: do the ob his joke here, but that would be insane.

1239
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: He goes out there and throws a minus ten.

1240
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 4: Geez, but I even really you know, a big number.

1241
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Jamis is what radicalized me against current quarterback scoring because

1242
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: the year that he went thirty for thirty, he still

1243
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: was a top five fantasy quarterback, and.

1244
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: Like that just should not be.

1245
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. That's why I think we should have escalators too. Right,

1246
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: if you throw more, like you know, your first two

1247
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: touchdown passes are what four points or six whatever your

1248
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: normal scoring is, right, but if you throw a third,

1249
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: then that should be one point more. If you throw

1250
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: a fourth, it should be like you should do that

1251
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: should escalate. Similar with interceptions, your first your first two picks,

1252
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give you minus two if you throw

1253
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: a third, that's minus three.

1254
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: If you throw a four, that's minus four.

1255
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: Like, if you have a four interception game in real football,

1256
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: your team is probably losing. If you have a four

1257
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: interception game in fantasy, you're just like whatever, if he

1258
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: throws three touchdowns, like I just I wipe it off.

1259
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: It's not a big game, like like it should match

1260
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: what's happening on the field, or if your quarterback throws

1261
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: four interceptions, it should be harder for you to your

1262
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: fantasy match up.

1263
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: The whole time you're talking there, I agree, and I'm like,

1264
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 4: you know, Russian quarterback numbers probably shouldn't be as valuable

1265
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: as they are, like because that makes Justin fields better

1266
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: than and I love Justin fields for fantasy, but he's

1267
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: not better than most of the quarterbacks that we take

1268
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 4: him over.

1269
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: Like if we have if we're gonna do tight end

1270
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: premiums right where tight ends get like one and a

1271
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: half points per reception, like we can make it so

1272
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: that quarterbacks like you need twenty yards to get a

1273
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: point for rushing.

1274
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 4: Or something like, you can make it total yards and

1275
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 4: like you get twenty for every twenty five total yards

1276
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 4: you get a point. Yeah, so if you throw for

1277
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 4: three hundred, you run for one hundred, that's four hundred

1278
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 4: total yards right there.

1279
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: Like, I think we should actually make it so that

1280
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have the value, hold the value and fantasy that

1281
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: they hold in real life. I just I keep, I

1282
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: really do keep saying that if we think, you know,

1283
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, whomever, is the best quarterback in

1284
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: the league, you shouldn't be looked at sideways when you

1285
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: take one of those guys early. This just doesn't make sense.

1286
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: Like we think Jamar Chase is the best wide receiver league,

1287
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: you take him at number one. Everyboy's like, yeah, okay,

1288
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: that's cool.

1289
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: That makes sense if we had scoring like that, who

1290
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: scores more points? Brock Purdy or Matthew Stafford? Y?

1291
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: What is sat with you?

1292
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: Bro the mic away from his face and getting ready

1293
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 2: to leave.

1294
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Actually pretty might because.

1295
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 3: No, don't even think about it.

1296
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Stop it weren't it's Stafford.

1297
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 3: It's Stafford, bro Stop, don't even think about it.

1298
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: It's like you insulted his whole family when you said that.

1299
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 4: Who do you who do you bring.

1300
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 3: Stafford? You talking about it's Stafford? Like I'm dead? Seriously,

1301
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 3: you see he was on the perimeter like it's Stafford bro.

1302
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: If if he wouldn't get this upset if you said

1303
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: something about his son, I probably agree.

1304
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: But I had to run this morning to his school

1305
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: because he left his homework on the table that I

1306
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: told him put in his book bag last night. Matthe no,

1307
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 3: he would never do that, He would never do that.

1308
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. Let's let's just let's

1309
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: wrap this up so little I can go take a

1310
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: deep breath and get some water and touch grass for

1311
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: a minute, because I think that will help him in all.

1312
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 2: Back with you tomorrow.

1313
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: We will have some some bowl predictions, maybe some hot

1314
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: takes as we get you ready.

1315
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: Just looking ahead. We are off on Monday because it's

1316
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 2: Labor Day.

1317
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: Uh, but we'll be back starting video shows next week,

1318
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: so a couple times a week we'll be actually doing

1319
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: live video, not live but video shows that you can

1320
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: see on your fast channels. You can see him on

1321
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: the YouTube's. I believe they will be. They don't tell

1322
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: me where they are. I just go digging around and

1323
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: I find it everywhere.

1324
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 4: So the Quand's barber everywhere.

1325
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, the Quands barber was holding us down during

1326
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: the sheet so shout out to the barbers man for sure,

1327
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: for sure in the yeah go ahead, oh go ahead,

1328
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: giving a shout out to your barber.

1329
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: Old town. Shout out to them. Man crisp.

1330
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: It's crispy like a yesterday fresh bag of ruffles.

1331
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: Just crispy, I don't know.

1332
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: For this initiation of NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, they happy,

1333
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well.

1334
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: Enjoy it to everybody. Talk to you again tomorrow.