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Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I'm joined by room

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Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg rosent All.

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Speaker 1: What boys? Hey? Dan? Hey, how are you happy Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for not wearing your coat and making a slippin.

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Speaker 1: I know I did an NFL Now hit, uh this morning.

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Speaker 1: home man, what please? Did you do it? Please? If

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Speaker 1: you listen to this, you like the podcast, you should

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Speaker 1: that we haven't pimped that at all. We're on that

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Speaker 1: t D when you synergy holding his hands together, uh TD.

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Speaker 1: When you came in, Greg and I were taking turns

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Speaker 1: just hanging out here at NFL media today? How's it going?

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Speaker 1: What's happening, fellas? What's going on? Big week at the NFL.

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Speaker 1: As you know I did, I didn't have time to

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Speaker 1: is all right, Well, that's one one victory right off

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Speaker 1: big show. This is our week's seven preview show. As

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Speaker 1: you know, when we're going to uh go through all

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Speaker 1: It will be fun. But before we get to the games,

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Speaker 1: around the NFL team that's going to stay late Thursday

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Speaker 1: night and watched the big game. This time it's Mark

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Speaker 1: Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. Mark self proclaimed that the A team,

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Speaker 1: So take it away A team. Well we are the

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Speaker 1: A team. That's very appropriate, isn't it. Greg? Well, they

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Speaker 1: dial up the best Thursday night game of the year.

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Speaker 1: Two fantastic teams, the Jets and the Patriots. We want

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Speaker 1: an unbiased look at things, so we we put Dan

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Speaker 1: Good game, I mean, we got a great game. What

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Speaker 1: a game. I mean we've waited for this. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: Jets win. And Bill Belichick came to the podium right

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Speaker 1: And if you're a new York fan whose heart has

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Speaker 1: prophetic to call them too and four obviously a team

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Speaker 1: you're behind You're the conductor the Niners train. Right now,

429
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Speaker 1: we all picked against well picked against them, Broncos across

430
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Speaker 1: the border in the train, next stop super Bowl. All right, now,

431
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 1: it's time we get into this. Sometimes this can get

432
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Speaker 1: a little awkward because it's it's a gang mentality. This

433
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: is the defend your Hero segment where just one of

434
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Speaker 1: us picks a team and the rest of you want

435
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Speaker 1: the other direction. And now that man in this case,

436
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: we're all men, so that man must defend his hero,

437
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: defend your hero, which is to say that if there

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Speaker 1: was a woman that was on the Around the NFL

439
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Speaker 1: podcast and maybe down the line that will happen, Greg,

440
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: we would, you know, say that that person must have

441
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Speaker 1: been the here. But in this case we just say,

442
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Speaker 1: be nice to have like a female host. Do you

443
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Speaker 1: think I just in my own grave? All right? So

444
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Speaker 1: this is the defender Hero segment, and and today's this schedule.

445
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Speaker 1: We have one, two, three, four games that we're only

446
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Speaker 1: one of us picked, and we'll start with one that

447
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Speaker 1: I picked. I have too this week. Of course, as

448
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Speaker 1: Greg knows, I'm the leader of the season with five

449
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Speaker 1: hero picks out of nine. And while we're on the

450
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Speaker 1: subject of nine, we're here Greg the standings as well. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 1: it's really exciting three way tie for first right now

452
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Speaker 1: with Mark and Dan and I. Patrick's only two back

453
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Speaker 1: West is uh struggling a little bit by the way

454
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Speaker 1: looked at looked this morning at the standings and where

455
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Speaker 1: it talked about the three people in first place. You'd

456
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Speaker 1: think you would naturally just make that alphabetical, right, Who's

457
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Speaker 1: who's up top? Who is it? The boss obviously phone

458
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Speaker 1: into the edit desk and said, listen, just get me

459
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Speaker 1: at the top of it. Won last year, so it's

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Speaker 1: just carries over the time. Two. Concerning Greg, you were

461
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Speaker 1: doing a lot of You were bad mouthing me earlier

462
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: in the season, saying no one cares record. I care

463
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Speaker 1: about them and the listeners do care, and west your thoughts.

464
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Speaker 1: You're gonna get back in this thing. I don't. I

465
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: don't really care about records at six games, but I

466
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Speaker 1: don't think the Saints are worse than the Panthers. Interesting,

467
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Speaker 1: I have more talent than than you in picking games,

468
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Speaker 1: just like the Saints have more talent than the Panthers.

469
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Speaker 1: I am demonstrated by my track record that I that

470
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Speaker 1: I should be given some benefits of down here in

471
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Speaker 1: the sixth game. This has now gotten personal and you

472
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Speaker 1: have no chance. I am getting the troops together. It

473
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Speaker 1: is over son. I don't like I don't like how

474
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Speaker 1: Dan is disrespected as a game picker, that this for years.

475
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Speaker 1: Come on, he's not doing a fine job. He's in

476
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Speaker 1: first place. You're like the Arizona Cardinals right now, a

477
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Speaker 1: house of cards ready to tumble. Good for one, winning

478
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Speaker 1: by a point or two every week, smoking mirrors, you

479
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Speaker 1: will be found out a lot of coming from Are

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Speaker 1: you done? Yes? Okay? Great? Moving on to the first

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Speaker 1: hero pick by Dan Hansens, who was five for nine

482
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Speaker 1: so far. I think room Jacksonville Jaguars are jackson are here.

483
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The Jags are winless. However, the Browns

484
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: are coming into town. And this is a different Browns

485
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Speaker 1: team than in the past several years. Of course, the

486
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Speaker 1: Browns are coming off a big wipe out of the Steelers.

487
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: They're three and two, they're feeling really good. But the

488
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: Jaguars perhaps overdue, perhaps definitely over Mark was your friend.

489
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: He's come over to see your newborn child. He's been

490
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: nice to you, and now you're trolling him with a

491
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: winless team. Well, two things. Number one, Mark, you know

492
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Speaker 1: it's not personal. I just feel like the Browns aren't

493
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Speaker 1: ready for this yet. I feel like it doesn't mean

494
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: there're seasons about to go on the tank, but I

495
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna have a little misstep that brings

496
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Speaker 1: them down to earth a little bit. And then they

497
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Speaker 1: start building, You're gonna be ready to go to ever bank.

498
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Speaker 1: You know the pools. You might have a woman in

499
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Speaker 1: jeans and a pool. Hundred and thirty seconds ago on

500
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Speaker 1: this show, I am going to bad for you on

501
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: your ability to make picks and how much respect you deserve.

502
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: What was this move? Well, listen, it's not personal. And

503
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Speaker 1: and the real shock to me is that I got

504
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Speaker 1: a hero pick because this would be the first time

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Speaker 1: West has supported the Browns on any level for a

506
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Speaker 1: month and a half. Well, look, you guys are in

507
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Speaker 1: my head every week you accuse me of being a

508
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Speaker 1: bad friend to Mark, and I just don't want to

509
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Speaker 1: be a bad friend anymore. It is now you have

510
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Speaker 1: taken that spot. It is rather sophomoric that we are

511
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Speaker 1: actually calling each other bad friends for not picking that

512
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Speaker 1: person's so called favor. We are idiots, don't forget Well,

513
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: that's fair, let's start there. I feel like you're not

514
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: giving Kyle Shanahan any love here. I mean, the offensive

515
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: coordinator who's been dialing up plays better than any play

516
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Speaker 1: caller in the league up against what's been a dreadful

517
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Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. Look at what the Browns have done a week.

518
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: They're a good team. The Jaguars think here's the here's

519
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: the weird thing, and I guess this would be called irony.

520
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I have a sessler that the Jaguars are going to

521
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Speaker 1: take care of the Browns here, and you're right, Shanahan's

522
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Speaker 1: playing great. Brian Hoyer is playing great. Uh what what

523
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Speaker 1: do you all? I said, he's playing great? Excuse me

524
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: coaching great? Brian Hoyer is playing great. This team everything

525
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: makes sense that they would continue rolling, and yet something

526
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Speaker 1: feels off. And that's what That's what a hero pick is.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have to make sense. And you know what,

528
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of I'm not just saying this to

529
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Speaker 1: agree with Dan, but I mean, the Jaguars are not

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Speaker 1: a good football team. They have been better. They took

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Speaker 1: the Steelers right to the edge. They really should have

532
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: won last week, and Blake Bortles is going to have

533
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Speaker 1: that game. Cleveland's defense has been horrible, so there is

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Speaker 1: not This is not illogical. There's one guy I like though,

535
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Speaker 1: on the Brown defense. Can you guess who it is?

536
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Speaker 1: Each week? Who's your favorite guy right now in the

537
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Speaker 1: Brown's defense? I think understand. I think Dante, I like

538
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: Gibson I feel like he's been How are they a

539
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: bad team if they've got all these good players on

540
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: their defense, I don't get it. Well, they are. They

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00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: have lost their down to what essentially four or five

542
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: defensive lineman are out right. So but anyways, I think

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: Dan Listen Blake Portal is gonna do it one of

544
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: these weeks. That defense does get pressure on the quarterback.

545
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: That's one thing it has done well. All right, So

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Speaker 1: let's move on to the second hero pick. We'll go

547
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Speaker 1: with Greg. We'll come back to my second one. Why

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Speaker 1: did I just defend your hero against the Browns. I

549
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: did plenty of defending two. But I knew I could

550
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Speaker 1: count on you to to get a little gloomy about

551
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,719
Speaker 1: the Browns. I knew I had that my head. Yeah. So,

552
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: the New York Giants are coming off that really bad

553
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: Sunday night game against the Eagles, and multiple levels. They

554
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: got shut out by a division rival, then they lost

555
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: lost Victor Cruz for the year to a bad knee injury.

556
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: Now they head to Big d to face the five

557
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: and one Cowboys, coming off that great, great, great win

558
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Speaker 1: against the Seahawks at the Clink. So the Giants seemed

559
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: to be in a rough spot. The Cowboys seems to

560
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: be in a great spot. But when these two teams play,

561
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: it's not always that easy to figure out. Now, the

562
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: whole group save one picked the Cowboys. The only one

563
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: that didn't is Greg Rosenthal. So Greg, defend your hero.

564
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is Eli's house. He's got his name

565
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: on the wall and everything. Every time they go down there,

566
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Speaker 1: they win. I mean, I don't know if you remember

567
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: that the first game in in Jerry World, the Giants one,

568
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: Eli signed his name on the locker. They do it

569
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: every time since. I am not giving up on the

570
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Giants as a good team just because they had a

571
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: total stink bomb performance. I think they're the type of

572
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: team and coach and Eli Manning that responds to a

573
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: terrible game. And I don't think the Cowboys are some

574
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: dominant squad. You know, two weeks ago at home they

575
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: went to overtime against Houston. I just think they're ripe

576
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: after a week of everyone kind of blowing you know

577
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: what up Jerry Jones World, blowing blowing up, whatever you

578
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: call it. That the Cowboys go down because the Cowboys,

579
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: this would be the game. And I actually I thought

580
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: this about the Houston game that they would have stubbed

581
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: their toe, but now they really this is classic Cowboys territory.

582
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: You go up to Seattle and you play amazing football, outplay,

583
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: not just beat the Seahawks, outplay them badly. They come

584
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: back home and the Giants or the Backskins, well, I

585
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: totally can see where this can turn into, you know,

586
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: thirty one to seventeen Giants win and everyone's like, ah,

587
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys sucked us in again. Yeah, that's how the

588
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: NFL works. Just when you think you know everything and

589
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: America jumps on one narrative, that narrative gets blown up

590
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: in a matter of a few days the world because

591
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: we have a lot of overseas listeners. Catch Dan, thank you.

592
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: I still think this Cowboys defense is good because they

593
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: don't have to get on the field as much. Aren't

594
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: they giving up like five and a half yards per

595
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: carry on the ground? And look, it's no Rashad Jennings

596
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: this week. It's gonna be Andre Williams. But I think

597
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: the Giants have enough firepower. I still see this as

598
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: a three team race in the NFC, so that's kind

599
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: of I'm not giving up on that. So I'm not

600
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: giving up on the giant in this offense, the loss

601
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: of Victor Cruz is that as big a deal as

602
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: it would be in a running shoot type offensive they

603
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: ran for a long time. They've got receivers. I mean,

604
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: Cruiz is valuable, but they've got a lot of inexperienced receivers. Right.

605
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm not excited for Preston Parker. Eli Manning called him out.

606
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: He didn't say it. I don't know if he was

607
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: talking about the defense, but he said, basically, we need

608
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: to grow up. We need to take you know, more responsibility.

609
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: People that leadership. People need to take it seriously. It

610
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: never happened. You never hear him talk like that, but

611
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: that's what he said on Monday. Reuben Randall, Odell, Beckham,

612
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Larry Dennell. I think those are some of the people

613
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: he might be talking about. But there that's a talented receiver.

614
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I think we like Beckham. After a couple of weeks

615
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: of plays, looked, this is his chance now to step

616
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: into a starring role. If he really is the goods,

617
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and it seems like he is, he's gonna be a

618
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: major part. They're gonna ask a lot from him. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on. Chris Westling SE's the Oakland Raiders as a

620
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: team that's overdue, just as I see the Jaguars a

621
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Speaker 1: team that's going to get a w. That's what West

622
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: seas because all of us we picked the Cardinals to

623
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: go to the black Hole and take care of business

624
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: with Carson Palmer. However, Chris Westling says, no, you're all fools.

625
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: The Raiders and Derek Carr are going to get their

626
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: first win. So I ask you, now, Chris Westling, defense

627
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: your hero. Well. I've been a staunch and loyal supporter

628
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: of the Oakland Raiders for a long time. I admire

629
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: their entire operation. They have wonderful fans, and I just

630
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, with all of that going for them,

631
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: how can the Cardinals come into the black Hole and win?

632
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: What are the odds that, Chris Westling, I don't know.

633
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the last thing you had any hero picks? Where?

634
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: And then it's on the Raiders? In the Raiders both

635
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: very strange territory for you, Chris Well. I have said

636
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: this many times in the podcast. The Cardinals are a

637
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: much better team at home, and they're barely winning at

638
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: home these days. They're and they're a banged up team.

639
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: Their quarterback doesn't have a good arm right now. I

640
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: don't trust them to go into the black hole and

641
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: beat a team that looked really frisky last week and

642
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: frankly outplayed one of the best teams in the NFL.

643
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: It seems like the Raiders are finally and it's such

644
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: a week to week proposition with their offense. But Andre

645
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Holmes nice game last week. Some of the wide receivers

646
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: starting to show some chemistry. It's a little bit like

647
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville situation where you've got a young quarterback that

648
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: looks to be potentially the real deal and it's gonna

649
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: break at some point, they're gonna get a win. I mean,

650
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: I kind of like the strategy, Chris. I think it's

651
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: also maybe a little bit you know, you're you get

652
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: outside of your comfort zone having to pick the Browns

653
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are searching to get into the potentially

654
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: West seven games out again. This is this is a

655
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: long way to go, but perhaps you are exiting your

656
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: comfort zone to get a little momentum. Well, it's like

657
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: I told Greg in the newsroom, this has been a

658
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: look in the mirror week for me. I need to

659
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: be a better Chris Wesley and all fast sts of

660
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: my life. So I'm doing some some self evaluation this week.

661
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: You're saying, get to like everything all of my life.

662
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I need to I need to become a better version

663
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: of me. I like you the way you are. But

664
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: that's that's a fine quest. And as part of that question,

665
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: I put the quest. As part of that quest, you're

666
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: you're hitching your wagon to Tony Sperrano. Well that's not

667
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: like you may have more that's not the guiding principle.

668
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: There may be more internal searching to do. I agree.

669
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the best part of your self evaluation.

670
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: You continually search a lot of your anti cardinals rhetoric

671
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I was spouting last week, and I was defending my hero. Uh,

672
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: it's a political debate, and it could have worked if

673
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins hadn't turned the ball over four times in

674
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. There's still three where's your Messiah? Now?

675
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: By next week, West, we'll be talking about transcendental meditation?

676
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: Why why wait a week? Ms? Al right? The final

677
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: hero pick? Greg? We should do this properly because I

678
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't be setting up my own defensively here. Well, I

679
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: enjoyed it when you went third person. Yeah that was

680
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: too much. So why don't you set me up on this?

681
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: Put on your your old host cap, take it out

682
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: from the locker. It has been nice that we've had

683
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: a room full of heroes now for months on ending.

684
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: There a long time when it was just some heroes

685
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: want to run. The Cincinnati Bengals head to Indianapolis, the

686
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: House that Andrew luck Bilt. Actually that no one calls

687
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: it that the Bengals haven't played well the last couple

688
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: of weeks. Defense given up a lot of points. But

689
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna go on the road and beat

690
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: a streaking Colts team that's won four straight games. Defend

691
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: your hero first of all, it's the house of Peyton Manningville.

692
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing there, buddy. Okay, But I

693
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: just want to want to be factual right off the top, okay,

694
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna dig into the game. I don't

695
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: trust the Scults team yet. I don't know why. Uh,

696
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: It's just it's a feeling I have that they're not

697
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: exactly maybe as good as their record indicates. I didn't

698
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: love their performance on Thursday night against the Texans. I

699
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, they were holding on for dear life.

700
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: In that game against the team they should have just

701
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: once they got ahead, they should have stayed ahead. That

702
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: led him back in the game. So I see enough

703
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: cracks like that where I can't get all in. On

704
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: the other hand, the Bengals are a team that to

705
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: me still is the top three a f C team

706
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: coming off a frustrating tie. I think they're a better team.

707
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: If you match up just player for player for player,

708
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: a better team better. I would say they probably have

709
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: the coaching advantage as well. So I like the Bengals

710
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: as a better team, and I think that the better

711
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: team will win, even though it is in the house

712
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: the Peyton Manning Bilt, I can't argue with a feeling.

713
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a coin flip game. It's not crazy.

714
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: This is a good looking hero pick because I agree

715
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: with you on a lot of what you said about

716
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: the Colts. My problem is I don't know what the

717
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: Bengals are right now without a J. Green. Their offense

718
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: still looked really good, but I'm confused by the defense.

719
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: They had no pass rush against Carolina and Cam Newton.

720
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there, and they had a

721
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: total stink by imagine if the first two weeks of

722
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: the season the Bengals gave up eighty points, everyone would

723
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: be talking about that the house is on fire and

724
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: this defense is terrible. Yeah. Meanwhile, the Colts have them

725
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: most basically the hottest pass rush in the NFL. Seventeen

726
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: sacks in the last five games. Big gut guys like

727
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: you know our guy, well, flip side. Cincinnati's given up

728
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: two sacks all season. What's a good point? And I

729
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, the Colts with Andrew Luck, whether he had

730
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: built the house or he didn't, or he's just living

731
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: and renting it. He's renting it from Peyton Manning for now.

732
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: But this offense is scoring a touchdown more per game

733
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: than it did last year, and it's ten points more

734
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: than it was two seasons ago. And they're getting better,

735
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: they're getting more prolific. Whether they have a running game

736
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: or not, it just doesn't seem to matter. I struggled

737
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: with this game, and when I looked at it, I thought,

738
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: this is going to be a shootout. And then who

739
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: do you want to shootout, Andrew Luck or Andy Dalton.

740
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Andy Dalton gets you ties in

741
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: the shootout. Andrew Luck gets you. By the way, it

742
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: is the house that Jack Trudeau constructed. Judeau, Yeah, he's

743
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: he built it because he's come on to some financial difficulties.

744
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Is Mike Pagel his foreman Pagels and there Jeff George

745
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: is in there like just being lazy. Trudeau started a

746
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: playoff game for them in eighties seven, so that's valid. Well,

747
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: it did not go back when Mark was twenty five

748
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: or something. Whoa, whoa, Hey, I'm the same age as

749
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: West and I just happened to be watching football. You

750
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: are a versus building treehouses or whatever you were doing,

751
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: building a treehouse out of gold bricks as you watch

752
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots go twelve and two. Jews don't build treehouses.

753
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: But what was Greg doing at age eight playing sports?

754
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: Having fun with your Well we also there are come

755
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: from your own mouth, reports that you were you had

756
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: dyed your hair at one point a purple black tinge

757
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: and you were in a goth band. That's not true,

758
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: that's what you told us. Doesn't admit it was, but

759
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: he was crazy band. I did dye my hair black

760
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: when I was fourteen, If anyone, and instead of sending

761
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: tweets and snitching me out about Pat McAfee, I want

762
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: the Internet to band together to find some copy of

763
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal's band from Junior High. If you can get

764
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: that to us, we will give you. What was the

765
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: name of the band all our moneylaware Delare I mean Delaware.

766
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: It was called Delaware, the least exciting state in the Union. Well,

767
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: that was the joke. There was this based on Wayne's World.

768
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Uh that I think that that helped, that helped that

769
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: this very nineties move in the age of irony, to

770
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: call your band Delaware. Yeah, basically, all right, let's get

771
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: back on track. Let's go through the rest of the

772
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: games now, and we will start with the Atlanta Falcons,

773
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: uh taking on the Baltimore Ravens. You know, the Falcons

774
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: are a team that now now we're starting to think

775
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: they might actually stink. I picked them as a dark

776
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: horse earlier before the eason started. Now I'm not feeling

777
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: so good about that anymore. The Ravens, of course, coming

778
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: off the game where they absolutely absolutely trounced the Tampa

779
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers Joe Flacco at five touchdowns and a little

780
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: over a quarter I believe it was, or it was

781
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: in the first half anyway, So this seems to be

782
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: on paper a mismatch in the favor of the Ravens. Correct.

783
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: I've got a theory about the Falcons, and it's that

784
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: every time a team plays the Falcons, we think that

785
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: team is a world beater the following game. And so

786
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: so this is the week that the Ravens can stomp

787
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: on the Falcons and we can think it's some great performance.

788
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: After a while, I'm starting to realize the Falcons, other

789
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: than Matt Ryan and White and Julio Jones, are one

790
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: of the worst teams in football. Arthur Blank gave Mike

791
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Smith a vote of confidence this week, which you know

792
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: what that means. He well, I think I talked about

793
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: on the last show that I think it's just gonna

794
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: be a couple of weeks before we start to hear

795
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: the exact opposite that what Smith is going to be

796
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: around Smith. But know, we don't want to predict these

797
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: guys total dooms. But but the general manager has not

798
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: done a good job building this team. You had it,

799
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: you had an NFC title roster here that is absolutely

800
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: crumbled right up in the trenches on both sides of

801
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 1: the ball. That the good teams right now these days

802
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: are they're running in there, winning the time of possession.

803
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: We believe that about their talent on the roster, but

804
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: Arthur Blank said this week, look, we've got tons of talent.

805
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: That's what That's what he said in public. I think

806
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: he actually believes that. I then the issues would go higher.

807
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: It is depressing though, in sports, when you when they

808
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: came so close to getting this to the super Bowl,

809
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: when they got beat by the Niners. As this if

810
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: it's not hard enough to deal with as a fan

811
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: where you come that close when it turns out a

812
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: year later and realize, oh, that was the closest we're

813
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna get with this team, and you have to start

814
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: over it could be another ten years, twenty years, forever.

815
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: It's tough. It's being a sportsman is tough. I don't

816
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: think Demotrof is going anywhere. It's not than the don't think.

817
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: And they're still gonna have Matt Ryan and Julio Jones,

818
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: which is I know it's only two players, but it's

819
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: very good and it's a lousy division. It wouldn't shock

820
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: me if they're who knows that this division eight and eight,

821
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: nine and seven, he can turn around a team in

822
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: one year in the NFL. Moving forward, the Minnesota Vikings,

823
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: coming off a bad loss to the Lions, now travel

824
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: to Orchard Park to play the Bills. The Bills, of course,

825
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: got beat by the Pats last week. Uh. I'm interested

826
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: in Teddy Bridgewater in this game, how he bounces back

827
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: from a very tough performance against a very good defense.

828
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: That he plays the Bills, who have some players that

829
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: can also play there. What do we expect from Teddy

830
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Bridgewater in this game? Will start there? I expect him

831
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: to struggle. Greg has talked up the Bills is having

832
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: the best defensive line in football, and they're even better

833
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: at home. I don't know. To me, like nothing I

834
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: saw it at Teddy Bridge, but Bridgewater last week would

835
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: would suggest that he's gonna have an easy time in Buffalo.

836
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: The one game where Bridgewater really started to throw the

837
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: ball down field and use the weapons around him, if

838
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: you want to call him, that was the Falcons game.

839
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: Everyone looks great against the Falcon well, and they couldn't.

840
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: They couldn't. Minnesota's offensive line has been a pass protecting mess,

841
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: and we saw that last week was at eight sacks

842
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: against the Lions. I don't think we can really you

843
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: know say much about Teddy Bridgewater when he's running for

844
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: his life the way he is, and he's throwing a

845
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: lot of checkdowns and little screen passes, and he's not

846
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: even He's looked even EJ. Manuel esque on some of

847
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: his screen pass attempts, like his his short passes, and

848
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: it's because he's under so much to rest. In that

849
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: Falcons game, he looks solid to me. If they can

850
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: protect him, I think he's he's he's an interesting quarterback,

851
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: but we're not going to know until they can do that.

852
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: You've been diving into the rookies each week on the

853
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: Old Rookie Watch on NFL dot Com. What what about Bridgewater?

854
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: Every week? What about What have you learned about that

855
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: about Bridgewater watching this? Well, that's sort of what I

856
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: just said. I just think that it's it's the big

857
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: issue for them because for so long they were a

858
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: great run blocking line for Adrian Peterson and fair enough

859
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: you know, for the quarterbacks in terms of past protection.

860
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: But he's just been getting killed that. I'm glad he

861
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with the Packers that one game.

862
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: He does have a stone gargoyle guarding his blind side.

863
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: There you go, I think some of the problem is Bridgewater,

864
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: at least last week. I mean he admitted it too

865
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: that he's got to get rid of the ball. And

866
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: you see this with a lot of young players on

867
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Your boy Kyle Orton

868
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: played pretty well agains game is not their problem. And

869
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: that's why I took this as my derest Cell Power

870
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: pick of the week Bills over Vikings. And if it's

871
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: anything like the battery itself, that's a pick that's gonna last.

872
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Mark I like that, and I took them also is

873
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: my power pick because I've found that it's smart to

874
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: just mimic what the boss does sometimes because he'll say, wow,

875
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: this person gets it moving on. We all picked, by

876
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: the way, the last two games I went over, we

877
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: picked all across and you can figure it out. Next

878
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: up Miami the Dolphins. They're coming out. Oh what a

879
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: tough loss with the Dolins felt so terrible for that franchise,

880
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: losing to Aaron Rodgers late uh touchdown with less than

881
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: five seconds to play. Now they had to Chicago to

882
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: play the Bears, and Greg as you were just saying,

883
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: every team looks better against the Falcons. At least the

884
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: offense does, so should we think that now the Dolphins

885
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: are going to play a tighter game with the Bears.

886
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: I think this was the toughest game I've had to

887
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: pick all year for some reason. I don't know why.

888
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: I probably say that every week, but the Dolphins. I

889
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: really wanted to pick the Dolphins. I had a hard

890
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: time deciding, and it's hard to get a feel for

891
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: this Bears team. You want to think that they kind

892
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: of turned it around last week and pushed the land around.

893
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: But like I said, there's that Falcons effect where everyone

894
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: looks good against him. The Dolphins have a legitimately good defense.

895
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: This is a great matchup between the Bears passing game

896
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins. Football Outsiders ranks of Dolphins as the

897
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: number four defense in the league surprising. I think if

898
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: Steve Smith can go into Carolina improved to the Panthers,

899
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: that they made a mistake by letting him go. I

900
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be Brandon Marshall's game, and I

901
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: think that's a good point. We can talk about the

902
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: Falcons effect, but a significant portion portion of their improvement

903
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: on offense is that Brandon Marshall's healthy. Yeah, I mean

904
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: they and they put up four yards against the Packers.

905
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: It's not like they haven't been moving the ball. Their

906
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: defense is improved dramatically this year too, So I don't

907
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: know why. Maybe it shouldn't have been that hard to need.

908
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: They're a weird team. I don't know, they're They're a

909
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: really tough team to put my finger on whether they're

910
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: any good or not. I need to ask uh the

911
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: DP handsome Hank about this. I anecdotally, it seems like

912
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: the Dolphins just lay so many eggs on the road.

913
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: They've only played one road I mean like in the

914
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: last couple of years. Crazy. This is only their second

915
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: road game and they well, that's disappointing because that tells

916
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: us they're not taking care of business at home either.

917
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: But this there's a weird London counted as a road game.

918
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: But I don't, well, that's all right, I mean, that's

919
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a weird sort of I just someone

920
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: what the Dolphins does not charismatic leader Cameron Wake and

921
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: Olivia Vernon though, that's as good a tandem right now

922
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: as there is other than in Denver. They're playing really well.

923
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: It's a it's a defense that has players all over

924
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: the place, the Seattle Seahawks, coming off a bad loss

925
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, now travel to the Edward James Almost

926
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: Bowl uh Dome to play the St. Louis Rams, who

927
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: got off to that nice start against the Niners, the

928
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: big NFC West superpower along with the Seahawks, and then

929
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: got wiped in the second half. Do we see the

930
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks taking care of business or or the Seattle Seahawks, who,

931
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: by the way, aren't giving marshall on Lynch the ball enough.

932
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: Are they going to struggle and play another close game.

933
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: I thought for a minute that the Rams might be

934
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: a sneak pick here, but I don't believe it. I

935
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: think that vig Fongio blitzed Austin Davis, which I think

936
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: will continue to be a problem for that quarterback, and

937
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: I expect the Seahawks to put pressure on him too.

938
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: This is when it gets ugly when you are the

939
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: fourth best team in the in the division, because you

940
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: deal with the Niners on Monday night and you got

941
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: a short week to turn around and deal with an

942
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,479
Speaker 1: angry Seahawks team. I mean it, There's nothing logical about

943
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: picking the Rams. The only thing I kind of liked

944
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: about the Rams. In the beginning of that Niners game

945
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: was that for the first time under Brian Schottenhammer's reign,

946
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: with that offense, we saw some of the young players

947
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: being used. I like Trey Mason. I thought Tavon Austin

948
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: finally was used in a way that kind of exposed

949
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: his gifts in a good sense. And but how do

950
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: you do that against this defense or four quarters? It's

951
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: not the same defense though, I mean Seattle's defense. No,

952
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: they don't have Bobby Wagner, who is one of their

953
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: best players. No, Byron Maxwell, you don't have Byron Maxwell Son.

954
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: Maxwell was already the replacement and he played really well

955
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: last year, Brandon Browner. So now you're two guys like

956
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: uh Burly right who last week the Cowboys targeted him

957
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: and and it worked. And so now you've got some

958
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: weak players on the field. They're missing Max Unger, who's

959
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl type of center. They're missing Zach Miller,

960
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: who is a key part. You know, they're missing a

961
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: lot of players. But you're not willing to say that

962
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: the Rams are going to give them a tough time. No,

963
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: they're They're still a very good team. I just don't

964
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: think they're the same defense. They're really the same team

965
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: when they're missing all these players like the one with St. Louis,

966
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: And that's true. And then I'm like, okay, well, so

967
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 1: who on St. Louis is going to really take advantage

968
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: of that and and and have a wild night? I

969
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: just do gun slinger. Austin Davis, I like. I like

970
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Austin Davis. It's Sam's defense that's the bigger problem. I mean,

971
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: this is a team that's built to be great up front,

972
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: and they're the worst pass rush in the league. You're

973
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: sort of our Brian Schottenheimer beat writer Mark Um. You

974
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: gave him credit and he deserves it. For the first

975
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: time I can remember, they came out and we're creative,

976
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: we're smart. Didn't you also get the sense as soon

977
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: as the scripted plays were done, he had no answer.

978
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: And that's what watching a lot of bad football in

979
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland over the years, where they had it so called

980
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: all right, play caller here and there, you'd see them

981
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: come out firing for one quarter and then it's like,

982
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: what we basic, what we are are core talent, and

983
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: what we are at our base. You can't just do

984
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: you can't do that for more than one quarter. You're

985
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: dead and then and that's the rams we all picked

986
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Moving on this game, I can't get excited

987
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: about the Tennessee Titans head to Washington. That is team

988
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: that they exist in theory. Potentially the Titoons are heading

989
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: to Washington to face the Redskins. Uh, two teams that

990
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: don't seem to be going anywhere. Mark, is your job

991
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: now to sell this game to America and all the

992
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: people overseas and cover it on Sunday. Wait, that's the

993
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: breaking news. That will be the third straight week that

994
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm covering the Titans. Didn't you spend one Saturday this

995
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: year we just watching Titans. I I failed my family

996
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: that day. I failed basically America on something. Just don't

997
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: watch this game and just assume that you can write

998
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: three things there generic and concentrate on the other one. Well,

999
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: the reason this matters to me, I like that strategy.

1000
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: This is big for Kirk Cousins. If he goes out

1001
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: and has one of his better games, suddenly the conversations

1002
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: back in the mix of what do we do with

1003
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback spot? If he lays another egg, we're gonna

1004
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: see RG three. The minute's healthy. So I'm gonna sell

1005
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: this game to you. If not for the storied, long

1006
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: staining relationship between Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen, Jake Gruden

1007
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: would be coaching this Titans team right now. He was

1008
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: the first guy to interview for that job. They let

1009
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: him get away, and a night later, the Redskins made

1010
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: him an offer he couldn't refuse. I think the Titans

1011
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: wanted him Gruden in the Titans, but I guess the

1012
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: Redskins are gonna want him in two months too. You

1013
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: know you're not buying what I'm saying. And I felt

1014
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: failed on this front. So Greg, your turn. Sell it? Greg? Hey, all,

1015
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: how many games are there a year two? They're all beautiful.

1016
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: They're all my children. You know I love them all.

1017
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: You know I love it. Like one eye is shooting

1018
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: in one direction, It's got like a tuft of hair.

1019
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: One arm is significantly shorter than the other. It's a

1020
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: beast but beaut perhaps beautiful game than Game seven of

1021
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: the World Series, or or just about anything. Not even No,

1022
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: it's not the Royals are playing. I'd rather watch the Royals.

1023
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: The Royals are a fun team to watch. We all

1024
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: picked the Redskins. Moving forward, the Kansas City Chiefs are

1025
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: heading to the San Diego to face the Chargers. Philip

1026
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Rivers continues his uh, his m v P tour, potentially

1027
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. It's a tour, that's what the that's

1028
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: how they're selling like a camel cade. He's riding in

1029
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: the convertible rocking chair when he gets there. It's Yeah,

1030
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: it's like when Jeter retired. He's getting gifts every every

1031
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: stadium in Yeah, exactly. So. Anyway, so that the Chargers

1032
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: are playing well, Obviously they didn't play that well against

1033
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders, but they still came out to win. The

1034
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs another team I can't get too excited about. What

1035
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: are we what are our thoughts about this game? The

1036
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: most impressive thing about the Chargers to me is exactly

1037
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: what you said. They've had a couple of games where

1038
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect him to play well, and they've played

1039
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: just well enough to win. But they take care of business.

1040
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs are one of the teams that

1041
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: it surprisingly excite me that you you never know what

1042
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna happen going into the year. That's why we didn't

1043
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: choose the team of a t L. Of course, the

1044
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers until they were in five games in.

1045
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued by this Kansas City team because

1046
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: I think they're playing to their capacity. Wesleyans looking at

1047
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: me like I'm crazy. I'm looking at you like the

1048
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs excite you. I want to party with you, cowboy.

1049
00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: It's good looking. Tell me the bad Chiefs performance though,

1050
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: since week one, that's fair. I mean, they've been close,

1051
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: They're They've been a pretty good team. There isn't one

1052
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: since week one. They they lost in San Francisco on

1053
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: a game that was a very entertaining game. They've played

1054
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: really entertaining games. Alex Smith, you know, he's a good

1055
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: hammered the Patriots a lot of these games they were

1056
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: winning last year. That's the difference. I mean, it's they're

1057
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: gonna they have to at some point. Just you gotta

1058
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: take care of this business here with the Chargers. I

1059
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: talked to two people inside the San Diego organization, and

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00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to just explain something about what happened

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00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 1: in the last week. They and as we suspected, when

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00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: word kind of crept out over Twitter that we had

1063
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: picked them as our team, that is a lot of pressure.

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00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: But when you've got an m v P level quarterback.

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00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: He got that that group together in the locker room

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00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: and said, which is just another thing we've got to

1067
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: deal with in a good way. Now we're starting to

1068
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: get that acclaim and that attention. We're not that anonymous

1069
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: team down in San Diego. How are we going to

1070
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: deal with that? They're gonna come out big this week purposes.

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00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: You must say that that didn't actually happen, But I

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00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: think I'm not going to say anything. You can't prove

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00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: if he has sources in that locker room, why would

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00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: I Why would he went down to San Diego and

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00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: August and probably made a lot of close friends. I

1076
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: did not think of that, but I thought you spent

1077
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: most of after that game coming up with your list

1078
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: of cowboy defenses. I said, two sources in San Diego,

1079
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: someone that works at under the pier Bridge. This is

1080
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: a good game, Chee really need to win it. Though

1081
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: we all pick the Chargers. Yeah, if they go to

1082
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: two and four in that division, it's just about over.

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: It's tupid. I mean, they've played in Denver, in San Francisco,

1084
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: in San Diego. Their schedule has been pretty brutal, and finally,

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00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling. You you champion the Pittsburgh Steelers as a

1086
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: potential team of at L. You don't remember that you

1087
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: believe in them on some level, at least offensively, that

1088
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: they're an exciting, dynamic team. However, they have not gotten

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00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: off to a good start this season. There's some wonder

1090
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: there's even been some talk about my time Mlin because

1091
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is still in the future for this team.

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00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: Now they have a home game against the Houston Texans,

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00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: who we all know play some good defense, but have

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick at quarterback. You know what, you gotta win

1095
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: this team. To win this game, Steelers, they're gonna do

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00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: it right. They're not gonna blow this game, are they.

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00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't know who the Steelers are.

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00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: I think it's funny like that this is the year

1099
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,280
Speaker 1: everyone wants to talk about Tomlin and ignore the Haley

1100
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: big Ben dynamic, but their offense is not firing on

1101
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: all cylinders. And Hind's Ward came out and said this

1102
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: week that's not Todd Haley's offense. Big Ben's calling the

1103
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: plays well, and then it's talking about Haley. That's the difference.

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: And then you run into a situation where they're asking

1105
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: about Mark Tavis Bryant and Big Ben's basically like, I

1106
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: need to see that guy minding his p's and q's.

1107
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: How did you see him in his playbook? It seems

1108
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: like Big Ben is right. It isn't now that you

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00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: say that. I remember writing a post last week where

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00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: they were talking about a Levy on Bell didn't get

1111
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: a lot of carries in a game and Ben Roethlisberger

1112
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: it was because he was checking out of plays into

1113
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: past and when they asked Ben about it, he was like,

1114
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't regret any of it. I want to change it.

1115
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: So it's almost as if he's kind of taking a

1116
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: stand that this is his offense. Maybe there's a little

1117
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: bit of a power struggle then Todd Haley his uncle Jr.

1118
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: And Big Ben as Tony you don't want to be

1119
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Houston is gonna be able to take

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00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: advantage of this necessarily. But my bigger issue is with

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00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's defense in their secondary, because you know we've talked

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: about it. When you when you allow a quarterback to

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00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: complete eight passes all game, that should be a good thing,

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00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: assuming they aren't running well on you and but each

1125
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 1: of those passes went for big yardage from Brian Hoyer

1126
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: threw him last week. That's not something that Pittsburgh in

1127
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: its own division has done in the past. They they

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00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: look lost to me. We gave Kyle say had a

1129
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: lot of credit for his play college last week. It

1130
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: was essentially just written in capital letters. Throw the ball

1131
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: at Cortez Allen. I mean, this guy has to be

1132
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: playing worse than any cornerback in the league. He's given

1133
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: up more big plays than any He's been benched, and

1134
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: they just gave him a lot of money. There has

1135
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: no pass rush. I mean, the offense has been out

1136
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: of sink. Marcus Wheaton's running the wrong routes things like that.

1137
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: They tend to get a lot of yards and then

1138
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: not making But the defense is worse. The defense has

1139
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: been far worse. Yeah, they fell for the banana a

1140
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: tailpipe over and over again against the Browns. Boot action,

1141
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: play action. Every time. The linebackers are going one way

1142
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: and Hoyers going the other way and finding receivers, running

1143
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: dig routes, crossers all over open down the field. One thing,

1144
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that because Cleveland's run for like three

1145
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty eight yards and two games on Pittsburgh. No.

1146
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: No team has done that in its division anywhere in

1147
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: since nine against Pittsburgh sucks. The fan consensus is picking,

1148
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: and that's America. You can go to Weekly pick Up

1149
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: overseas cr picks there and overseas. The Texans are getting

1150
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: picked about six of the time in this game, which

1151
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: is bizarre to me. And yet we all went across

1152
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: on the Patriots the Steelers. Jadevan Clowney could play game

1153
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: time decision on Monday night. Okay, that's it for Thursday's

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Speaker 1: edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: As always, we will be back on Sunday night with

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: our Week seven recap. The wheel goes round and round

1157
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: and round. Signing off, this is Dan hansis for the Sizzler,

1158
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, Tate, Date behind the Glass, What's

1159
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: happened at Fellas Until Sunday