1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're just trying to keep 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: our producer Eric Roberts awake during the show. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with Jordan 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Rodrieg and Patrick Clayband. Here for the big Week eleven 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: previews starting with the early games and trying to recover 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: from the pre show shot that Eric Roberts was saying 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: that he likes a lot of sound clips in the 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: show just to break up the monotony of hearing the 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: same three voices so long, so boring. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 3: He wants to paint a picture. Greg, okay, he wants 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 3: to have a fully composed sandwich. And we all enjoy, 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, the cheese sandwich. But you can't have all 14 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 3: cheese in the sandwich. You gotta I gotta have some 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: veggies in there. And I appreciate Eric's, you know, contributions 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: in that part. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: It's just it's just an opinion. But he went hard 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: at it. He said, monotony, like the same voice over 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and over. 20 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: So let's just start. Let's start with some sound. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Josh Allen right off the top, because 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: he's involved in one of the biggest games of the week, 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: certainly the biggest game. 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: Early. 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: It sucks losing, you know, but knowing in the losses 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: this year that we've you know, we've turned the ball 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: over and that's pointing the thumb exit directly at myself 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: and knowing that if if we take care of the 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: football and take care of what we're supposed to, we're 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 4: dang good football team. 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: And yes, one of those turnovers was Josh Allen against 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins on a sneak that he had like 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: twelve yards and the ball got poked out outside of 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: interception in the red zone. But now they're back at home. 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: They are back at home, Greg, and they are taking 36 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: off Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: dogs by five and a half points though under is 38 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: forty seven and a half. Iron Eagle and Justin James 39 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: Watt on CBS, which is an NFL broadcast partner. Greg, 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: I have to say that now on GDL almost every time, 41 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: not the full broadcast. Why well, we we want to 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: highlight our broadcast partnerships because it's great, because it's a 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: part of what makes the league great. But have a chance, 44 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: Greg and we all do to watch this game. How 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: do you think that the Bills are gonna bounce back here? 46 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: Or do you think they're gonna bounce ball? 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Yes, every network that plays a game, you know, puts 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: a game on it is a partner. Yes, we're all partners. 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: Now. 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: I feel bad because it sounded like Eric and I 51 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: had real beef, But I was just trying to drag 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: him into the show a little bit. I know he 53 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: doesn't like coming into the show, but I know he 54 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: likes to hear other voices. 55 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: That would mean we should hear your voice more often. 56 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Eric, If you're gonna say Josh Allen said, hey, I 57 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: need to stop turning the ball over, why not hear 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen say I need to stop turning the ball over? 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 5: Well, he makes a good point. 60 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: Not only that, but one of my biggest points for 61 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: this game, before I even knew that you went the 62 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: extra mile and got that sound ready, was like, Josh 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: Allen's got to take care of the ball a little 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: bit better. Didn't have a good week last night. 65 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: I heard it from him though. 66 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I trust him more. He was impatient last week. 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: And I think this a really interesting matchup of two 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who sometimes have similar issues. Obviously, Josh Allen's a 69 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: better player, but last week especially, it seemed like there 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: were many times in that game where they were giving 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: him the easy stuff underneath and he didn't want to 72 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: take it. And when he had that fumble and certainly 73 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: the red zone interception, that was a little bit of 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: old Josh Allen. But even earlier in the game, when 75 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: they went through all those three and outs in a row, 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking, just just take the throw that's there 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: instead of trying to hit the big play. It's something 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: I think that both Allen and Baker Mayfield have always 79 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: tried to like calibrate, and when they have the best 80 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: calibration of aggression and taking what the defense gives you, 81 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: that's when they're at their best. 82 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think it's the job of the play 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 6: caller as well at time to protect that guy from 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 6: himself or to help him calibrate a little bit when 85 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: he sees him veering off into certain territories. And that's 86 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 6: what Josh Grizzard, King Grizzard and Baker Mayfield are learning 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 6: and working through right now. 88 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: Now. 89 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 6: Joe Brady and Josh Allen already have tried and true 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 6: answers we just need to see them, you know, run 91 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 6: the ball, run the ball consistently with James Cook. The 92 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 6: Bills are still leading the league in success rate when 93 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 6: running the football right now, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 94 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 6: while they opened the year as the best run defense 95 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 6: in the NFL, have dipped significantly in success rate, in 96 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 6: part because they are susceptible to the explosive plays. 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 5: And we saw that last week especially. 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 6: But you need to settle Josh Allen down, even though 99 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: I know that sounds condescending, it's not intended that way, 100 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 6: but he's pressing and it's very clear, so he needs 101 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 6: some help. He needs to help have some help being calibrated. 102 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: And I think that goes to the other very big 103 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 3: piece of the Bills offense. 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 7: Who's James Cook, who was pressing a little bit. 105 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: Had punched out from behind, where like Khalil Shaki ran 106 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: thirty eight routes, he got non targets. 107 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 7: The average separation it's three point one yards. 108 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: Now the separation can be a little bit proximity alertish 109 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: from next in stats, and we can't necessarily always take like, hey, 110 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 3: this guy's not getting open. 111 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 7: Because Jayal and Wadall. 112 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Had two point three yards of separation. But it's just 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: the way that the Bills offense looks. Sometimes it gets 114 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: bogged down, which is why you had Bills fans clamoring 115 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: in the preseason to maybe get some help at one. 116 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why Brandon Bean was actually on the phones 117 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: despite what he said in the preseason, to try to 118 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: get a wide receiver to get opened. 119 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 6: And you're pointing the thumb at yourself, I'm Brandon Bean because. 120 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: If Josh is gonna point thumbs or one particular thumb, 121 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 3: then you gotta go organization wide. 122 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 7: And I say it all the time. 123 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: This organization, this group of people have so many ties 124 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: to Carolina and that era of Panthers football, and it 125 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: feels like the direction is similar where you have this 126 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: mechanized machine of a quarterback, and other places the outcomes are. 127 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 7: Not so good. 128 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: The most regrettable Josh Allen take I had, which was 129 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: there were many on the around the NFL podcast, was 130 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: that he could be a poor man's Cam Newton if 131 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: everything went right. But that was always the conference. The 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: thing is, though, the defenses are telling the Bills that 133 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: they agree with you because and I think the Bucks 134 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: are really well equipped to do this they are loading 135 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: up to just stop the run. They are copying the 136 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Patriots playbook, and they're daring these receivers to beat them. 137 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's why Josh was looking for those 138 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: big plays. And I think the Buccaneers run defense was 139 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: incredible last week the Patriots. I mean, except for those 140 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: two plays, which is a big deal. Patriots were literally 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: dead last and success rate last week against the Bucks. 142 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: So I'm not. 143 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: Worried about them overall as a team. I know they've 144 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: given up a couple big plays. I think that's a 145 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: certainly and they it did against the Lions as well, 146 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and those are explosive plays, so you got to be careful. 147 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: But I think on a down to down basis, they're 148 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: well equipped to have that strategy against this Bills team 149 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and make Keon Coleman or Josh Palmer, who should be 150 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: back this. 151 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: Week, beat you. 152 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 6: My fear with the with the Bills, because I do 153 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: think that that is exactly the strategy that they're going 154 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 6: to take, is to try to get Josh to throw 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 6: the ball right and then Todd Bowles, who's not really 156 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 6: blitzing relative to a Todd Bowles season, is still blitzing 157 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: at the seventh highest rate in the NFL, So he's 158 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 6: going to bring the pressure if so. The interesting thing 159 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 6: about what happens to Josh Allen when he's being blitzed. 160 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 5: He's still very effective. 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: He's got over one hundred point six passer rating against 162 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: the blitz and he's throwing touchdowns. He's very clean, he's 163 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 6: only throwing one interception against the blitz. But the completions 164 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 6: go down. And when the completions aren't there and it's 165 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 6: not in a rhythm, Joe Brady seems to tend to 166 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 6: sort of deviate from the game plan, and it's sort 167 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 6: of like, Okay, we really want to see them stay 168 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 6: on schedule and stay on rhythm, even if maybe a 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: couple of plays. 170 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: Aren't there, or you're missing a couple of passes in 171 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 5: a row. 172 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: You get that situation where you've got a lambo in 173 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: the school zone and it's like you're asking Josh. 174 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: While he's right, I immediately went to lambeau Field, but I 175 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: got there over there, I just. 176 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 6: Pictured a car, you know, remember that show pit My Ride, 177 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 6: just a replica of lambeau Field, just pulling into a 178 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 6: parking spot. 179 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: Does that happen at your school? 180 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: There's no no at Ramona Elementary School, there's there're lands. 181 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: Most folks are walking the kids to school. And this 182 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: is a big game in terms of the conversation. Ooh, now, 183 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: two quarterbacks with negative scores, both of them with losses 184 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: last week. It's so trying to get a big eight 185 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: points for a game against contender for Josh Allen and 186 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield, man who the Bills have been solid fantasy 187 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: wise against quarterbacks. Problem is Baker Mayfield gets a chance 188 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 3: to throw the ball to a Mecca Buka where that 189 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: is a clear mismatch, I think in the Bills second. 190 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought he looked great when I went 191 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: to back and rewatch. That's how you know I am 192 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: owning being a Patriots fan watching that in all twenty 193 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: two and I thought he looked awesome last week. I 194 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: mean petition to maybe take Baker out of the conversation. 195 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: I don't know if what After the start to the season. 196 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: The season is long. The last three weeks they are 197 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty seventh in EPA. I think last week was one 198 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: of the worst games I've seen out a Baker. I 199 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: think he was maybe their biggest issue. 200 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 5: There were guys I agree because guys were open. 201 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: Guys were open, and well, he's just in a little 202 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: bit of a That's what I like about the season, 203 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: by the way, like all these things that we talked 204 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: about the first month or two, it's like you have 205 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: such different eras of the even within a season, like 206 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: a three or four week stretch like and now this 207 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: Bucks team, this offense, to me, is a much different 208 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: looking Bucks offense than we saw. I think buckierving and 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Mike Evans coming back would certainly help, but that's not 210 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: happening this week. 211 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, Bucky Hearing is at practice, but obviously it's still 212 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 6: could be still a ways we just don't know. And 213 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 6: then on the Bill's side, they are still so banged 214 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 6: up and they try they're trying to bring in reinforcements 215 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 6: along their defensive line. 216 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: They signed Morgan. 217 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 6: Fox to the practice squad, They added receiver Michel Hardman 218 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 6: to the practice squad, and you know, Sean McDermott was 219 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: quoted by reporters they're being very excited about the addition 220 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 6: of Mikael Hardman, which you know, I guess you could 221 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 6: see is two sides of. 222 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 5: The same coin. 223 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 6: The comment also Christian Benford Terrell Bernard, Taron Johnson, Cam Lewis, 224 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 6: Khalil Shaker, Shack Thompson, and Dorian Williams are limited to 225 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 6: start the week. They are so so so so banged up. 226 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: I'll take good news from that because most of those 227 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: guys didn't practice and missed last week game, so that 228 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: at least getting Benford and Toron Johnson and Epenesa back 229 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: would be huge. This is a monster game for both 230 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: these teams, especially the Bills, because the Bills could fall 231 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: right out of the. 232 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: Me into taking it as the number one pick. I see, yes, yes, 233 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: you are successful. 234 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 7: Greg. 235 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: Is that and we'll see if Jordan provides the final vote, 236 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: which we will have to update later to take Baker 237 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: Mayfield out of the core. 238 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: Well never, no, I mean now we're gonna have it. 239 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a vote next week. He might not 240 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: be secure on QB Island. 241 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 5: Baker needs oh for. 242 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: Two on NFL Daily Properties for essentially for Baker Mayfield. 243 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: Let's go to the Chicago Bears, who are going on 244 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: the road to take on JJ McCarthy, Justin Jefferson, Aaron Jones. 245 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: The entire skill grew of the Minnesota Vikings that has 246 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 3: a j initial for some reason, which is something that 247 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: I noticed this past week. The Minnesota Vikings three point favorites. 248 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: The over under is forty eight and a half. It's 249 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: Fox to one Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady Jordan. Do the 250 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: Vikings bounce back from a frustrating loss to the Baltimore 251 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: Ravens and get a win here against the surgeing Bears. 252 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 6: I think they look They will look better, yes, especially 253 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 6: against this Bears defense that has been either hit or 254 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 6: wildly wildly miss over the course of the season, but 255 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 6: having a gamery of eight a record eight false start penalties. 256 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: And part of that is on the quarterback because he's 257 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 6: in charge of the timing and the cadence of all 258 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 6: of the orchestration of the play pre snap and at snap. 259 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 6: It's an entire unit that has to get cleaned up 260 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 6: to actually get like a clean evail on JJ McCarthy, 261 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 6: he had a couple of really tough plays. He started 262 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 6: the game great, had a couple of really tough decisions 263 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 6: on his throes. I would just like to see more 264 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 6: balance and getting this run game going. I sound like 265 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 6: a broken record, but they have to actually be just better, 266 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 6: more efficient, more sustainable running the ball in order to 267 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 6: settle JJ McCarthy into this rhythm that he quite clearly 268 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 6: needs to get into to start. I guess having nine 269 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 6: emerge again. 270 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: He just feels very unpredictable what you're going to get 271 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,359 Speaker 1: on this snap to snap. 272 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Basis, because there was a lot of good. 273 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: Like you said, I think Aaron Jones has looked like 274 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: a different player, a better player since he's come off 275 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: the injury, so I think that's a positive. 276 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: There is a little bit of Choc. 277 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: Panic going on as not only the Matt Laflair panic 278 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, not in terms of job security, but 279 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: oh just people being unhappy with Koc for maybe the 280 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: first time. And I do think it's a challenge Patrick 281 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: for him to like figure out, like how aggressive to 282 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: be with JJ McCarthy, because you see the pass attempt 283 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: totals last week, and that game was close for most 284 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: of it. There was a crazy stat It's a little 285 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: unfair because most of them were clear passing situations, but 286 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: they had twenty third and fourth downs last week. 287 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: They did not run the ball on one of them. 288 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a. 289 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: Lot so many negative down and distances. 290 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: Right, but they also had the highest like even in 291 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: a neutral games script situation the highest pass run ratio 292 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: in the entire league last week, So I mean, I 293 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: think that's a fair stat to point out. And he 294 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: has generally had the highest pass you know, run ratio 295 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: and neutral situations like throughout his coaching tenure. It's kind 296 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: of what KOC wants to do. And yeah, you got 297 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: to figure out the right plays to call for for 298 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: his quarter. 299 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, especially when you consider that Aaron Jones 300 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: is averaging five yards to carry, Jordan Mason was averaging 301 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: six point three yards per carry, and we got that 302 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: play where Malacho Starks picked off JJ McCarthy an ocean 303 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: of green in front of j J McCarthy and he 304 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: oddly like takes a crow hop into throwing a ball 305 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: to Justin Jefferson in the double coverage there where I 306 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: think you'll get a chance to, you know, have this 307 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: young quarterback go through the learning process, which is gonna 308 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: have its ups and downs. It's a reasonable thing in 309 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: a guy in what I think is fair to call 310 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: his rookie season where you're going up against a Bears 311 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 3: team now where they had five drops last week. Yeah, 312 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: it was a weird game. 313 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 7: Caleb. Essentially saying fine, I'll do it myself. 314 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 3: In the final couple drives with those, I'll want to 315 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: run down to the one and then a touchdown run 316 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: to kind of finish things off. And excited to see 317 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: what the Blitz pertunity is going to be like for 318 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: a defense that I know, like, field goals are bad 319 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: and we don't like it. Teams kick field goals, but 320 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: the Vikings offense I feel like would have looked a 321 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: little bit different if Baltimore wasn't consistently getting three points possessions. 322 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: He said, we like you don't like it? 323 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: You too? 324 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how you said, we wasn't it. 325 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 7: It's not seven. 326 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 5: It was the Minnesota nice week. 327 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's three points. I think as good as seven. 328 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: I think it could be a defensive more of a 329 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: defensive game than you would expect. And I love when 330 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the season gives us little moments like this, because you 331 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: saw the Week one and we've seen the Caleb Williams evolution, 332 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: and right now he's playing with more confidence. He's has 333 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: the highest mistackle for strate of any quarterback in the Leader. 334 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting stat for him, like him 335 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: playing the style that he played a lot in college 336 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: is paying off more. And then you hear Ben Johnson 337 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: this week, and it's crazy because you know, I have 338 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: many ways to pick games incorrectly, and one of them 339 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: is like, do the Bears really feel like a seven 340 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: and three team while the Vikings are a four and sixteen? 341 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 342 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: That doesn't seem right. So it seems like they should 343 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: equal out. But the Vikings already, you know, did beat him. 344 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: And I got to say that the vibes in Chicago. 345 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes you win some of these games that it didn't 346 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: feel like you should win, like they have a little 347 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: something extra that you can't measure in the numbers. Ben Johnson, 348 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe spoke about something that's a little less 349 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: magical this week. 350 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 8: We found out a lot about ourselves over the course 351 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 8: of the season. 352 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 9: So far. 353 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 8: We are We're a different team than than we were 354 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 8: Week one, and so is Minnesota. So this will be 355 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 8: a completely different matchup. As far as I'm concerned, I have, 356 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 8: you know, the trust level is grown for a number 357 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 8: of players with in our coaching staff. I think we 358 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 8: really can hang our hat on a number of guys 359 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 8: now at this point and feel really good about what 360 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 8: we're gonna get on game day. 361 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: What a swing game this is for them? 362 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, because you can you can kind of bury 363 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: the vikings behind you with a with a win here, 364 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: and I think you just start taking the Bears more 365 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: seriously if they go ahead and win this game, well. 366 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 5: You touch on it. 367 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 6: I like that the Bears are also learning how to 368 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 6: win close games instead of watching, you know, snatching defeat 369 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 6: from the jobs of victory like we saw and have 370 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 6: seen for so many years from the Bears. And this 371 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 6: team has like a little juice to it where maybe 372 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 6: it was really finding itself. Ben Johnson's no longer really 373 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 6: quietly internally seething at the lectern about sloppy mistakes and 374 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: self inflicted errors and you're never going to have a 375 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 6: fully clean game operationally. But little reveals of confidence, whether 376 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 6: it's how Caleb Williams fired off that throw at the 377 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 6: end of the game or how he moved outside of 378 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 6: the pocket, or Darnell Wright, for example, this offensive line 379 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: like really starting to come together as a unit and 380 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 6: find itself first, gathering itself in the run game the 381 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 6: way that it has, and Darnel Wright, who's like one handed, 382 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 6: like preventing spin moves on Brian Burns and like doing 383 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 6: cartwheels between plays and things like that. I mean, it's 384 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 6: a group that's playing all together with confidence. It needs 385 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 6: to now start to bleed into the receivers who have 386 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 6: more weeks than not struggled with drops and being in 387 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 6: places where they maybe shouldn't shouldn't be. 388 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Roman Donday's father is very confident in his 389 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: in his son's ability, and I believe in Roma donsday. 390 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: Yes, he was great last week. This is a step 391 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: up in class. 392 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Though you were looking good on offense like against the 393 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Bengals and the and the Giants, and so it's exciting, 394 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: but it is like you're seeing DeAndre Swift run through 395 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: tackles on fourth and two. I do think that the 396 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: problems for the Bears defense have been probably a little understated, 397 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: Like Tyreek Stevenson is out for this game, probably Jaquon 398 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Brisker is probably out. 399 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: Like they're so banged up and not great to begin with. TJ. 400 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: Edwards their linebacker might be out. So show up Minnesota. 401 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, an opportunity to maybe not predetermined, so many throws 402 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: where when it looks great and he's hitting Jalen Naylor 403 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: on game winning routes, you know, running wheel routes. It 404 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 3: looks great, but when it's justin Jefferson and there's a 405 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: million people over there, got to make the decision during 406 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: the play, young man. 407 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 7: But he'll be fine. 408 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: Let's go to there a quarterback who's gone through those 409 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: those ups and downs and now he's on the upside. 410 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: The Chargers three point favorites all the way across those 411 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: sostatos of needles in Jacksonville, Florida. Forty three and a 412 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: half points. Is the over underspirited? Is an Adam Archiletta 413 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: on the call, Greg, you were one of those who 414 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: doubted the Chargers and their capacity to beat the Steelers. 415 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 7: Are you? Are you sorry? 416 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: I am? 417 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 7: And will you take them to win against the Jet? 418 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry in multiple ways. 419 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for doing that to the Chargers, and 420 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: I'm just a sorry individual not to have faith in 421 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: my boy Herbo and enjoy that win. I mean I 422 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: did still enjoy it ultimately. I you know, the heart 423 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: wants what it wants, and it wants the Charges to 424 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: win this game too. It will be a really good 425 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: test for the Jaguars. Just taking away the x's and 426 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: o's of it all, Liam Cohen talked about this week 427 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want what happened last Sunday still one 428 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: of the most amazing NFL games I believe of the decade. 429 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: Davis Mills is authored two of them, by the way 430 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: and the way, I mean, he's been just part of 431 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: total magic. John Shipley, he does a great job covering 432 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars on SI. He thought it was easily He 433 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: thought it was the worst loss of the Lawrence era 434 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: and the worst loss since he's been covering the team, 435 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: which extends even further. 436 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 2: Just in that spot. 437 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: For their defense to give up those drives to Davis Mills, 438 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: and the offense was certainly part of it, and and 439 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence needs to play better, but for the defense 440 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: to really continue a trend, they gave up a game 441 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: winning drive to Jake Browning. They gave up four straight 442 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: touchdown drives the Gino Smith and the Raiders right or 443 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: I think it was three in a field goal, and 444 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: then you give up that fourth quarter. Their defense is 445 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: facing huge problems in like, the one type of defense 446 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: that you could think Herbo can succeed against is is 447 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: one that doesn't have much of a pass rush, and 448 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: that's what the Jaguars. 449 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 6: Are right now, and I'm I'm looking at the tight 450 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: end usage too, I know always, but like in this 451 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 6: game specifically, because actually when the Raiders played the Jaguars, 452 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 6: you could see the Raiders using almost identical pass concepts 453 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 6: out of twelve personnel, specifically that the Rams had killed 454 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 6: the Jaguars with, especially in the red zone, and that 455 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 6: is something word is out. That is something they seem 456 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 6: to be so susceptible to, and with Justin Herbert able 457 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 6: to actually have playmakers in that phase, I know he's 458 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 6: missing lineman all across that front, but to have these playmaks, 459 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 6: and it almost doesn't matter to me that the Jaguars 460 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 6: blitz at the tenth highest rate in the NFL right now, 461 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 6: because Justin Herbert is getting pressured at a forty two 462 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 6: percent rate despite getting the ball out and two point 463 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 6: twenty five seconds, which is like one of the lowest 464 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 6: among all quarterbacks in the league ever for a game, 465 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 6: and certainly like one of the lowest all year in 466 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: a game, and he's still getting the ball to these playmakers. 467 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 6: They're getting yards after the catch plays. The Jaguars are 468 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 6: so susceptible to these types of things in combination. 469 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've had injuries too on the back end. 470 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: I think Jordan Lewis being out really hurts them. I 471 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: think Travis Hunter at cornerback being out really hurts them. 472 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: And you, boy, Lad McConkie Patrick, after that quiet start 473 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: to the season since Week six, fifth in receiving at Lightning, Lad. 474 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, these things eventually we'll kind of regress to the 475 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: to the norm, not just to the meme because Lad 476 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: McConkie is one one of the better sub explosive receivers 477 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 3: in our league. And yeah, the Quentin Johnston opportunity, I 478 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 3: think a lot came for teams planning for lab Uh 479 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: and they have left QJ wide open and now you 480 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: have to deal with all of them, including Rondez, Guest 481 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: and Junior who is dealing with an injury. Which is 482 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of a ding to the Chargers. Where 483 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: the Jags have struggled in coverage against these explosive guys, 484 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: whether they be a slot guy, big slots or tight ends. 485 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: But considering the offense looking clunky, trying to adjust with 486 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: without BTJ, as well as Travis Hunter leaning on Parker Washington, 487 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 3: who is a good player, but to have him out 488 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: there and Jacoby Myers just adjusting. 489 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 7: You kind of wonder where it comes from. 490 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: And then like Lobby look good, Parker Washington's look good. Yeah, 491 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: Travis d dns look good. Where did this running game go? 492 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been pretty good. Last it was good, 493 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: it was it was great last week. Davis Mills was 494 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: the problem. It was Yeah, So I think there is 495 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: a world, there is a route, but man, they feel 496 00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: like a route for them to win this game. And 497 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that's running the ball on the Chargers. But man, 498 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: the Chargers are you just don't know what to do 499 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: with them. 500 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: I saw it. 501 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 5: The defense is suddenly back, right. 502 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: I saw that in sane stat from your colleague Daniel 503 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: Popper that they were literally dead last in EPA per 504 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: play over a three week stretch from weeks what would 505 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: have been five to seven I think, and then the 506 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: last three weeks they are first. 507 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 5: I mean that is a head switching job came open 508 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 5: or something. 509 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Or or yeah, it's it's partly based on opponents, but 510 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: it's it's more that they should be a good defense, 511 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: and they seem like they're back to being a good defense. 512 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: I think that trade for a Dafaiyowe really worked out 513 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: well for both sides. 514 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and we've noted this before on the show, but 515 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 6: Trevor Lawrence struggles just reading zones or making decisions quickly 516 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 6: against some of the zone looks that he sees, and 517 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 6: this will be no different. 518 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 5: In my opinion. 519 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: Where I think that Jaguars have had a spark since 520 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 6: the beginning of the season and continue to have a 521 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 6: spark is on their special teams unit, not just Cam 522 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 6: Little and the records that he's set this year and 523 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 6: just a quality kicker, but also their return game is 524 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 6: potentially very, very explosive. The Chargers have historically been up 525 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 6: and down in terms of their coverage. They have the best, 526 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 6: most consistent kicker in the league, so factoring them aside, 527 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: but I do think that the Jaguars have to start 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 6: understanding that they have to win in the margins because 529 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 6: their defense is incredibly shaky and missing players, and their 530 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: offense is not consistent and still lacks this identity that 531 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 6: we've been hoping to see by now. 532 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: Question for you guys, so the Jaguars have been a 533 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: mainstay in the If the playoffs started today, graphic, will 534 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars still hold the place in those first seven 535 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: seeds after this week or for any point for the 536 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: rest of the season after this week. 537 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 2: Right now they are five and four. They are the 538 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: seventh seed. 539 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Is this the last time that we see them as 540 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: part of their that graphic? 541 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: Not in the hunt, I'm saying, in the playoffs. 542 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: I think the will get back on the graphic. This 543 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: week they slide off the graphic. 544 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, they're gonna fall off, but they'll be back. Yeah, 545 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: because you're not giving up on the long term. 546 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 7: The whole playoff leverage thing. 547 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: And I'm not making some declarative statement, but the whole 548 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: if the playoffs started today, they don't, right like that 549 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: that be the key part of that. 550 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, it changes all the time. 551 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: They do have a softer schedule down the stretch than 552 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: some other teams. So even though if they lose this game, 553 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna feel easy to bury them. 554 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: They're gonna hang around. I don't know if they get 555 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: back in though. 556 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 6: I have cursed many teams and many players this year, 557 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 6: so I guess maybe I'll try the reverse. I think 558 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 6: they'll miss the playoffs, So now go make the Playoffskysville. 559 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Okay, you are messy fun ones. 560 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: Let's bring it back, let's take a break, and uh yes, 561 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: we'll try to beat the monotony allegation when we talk 562 00:25:49,240 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Bengals steeers back on NFL Daily, channeling my inner Rodney 563 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Harrison today, If if no one's doubting you, if no 564 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: one's providing you. 565 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: Extra motivations, you just make it up a little bit. 566 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: And that's what that one comment from Eric is doing 567 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: for us. It's fueling us to try harder to be 568 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: less monoch I mean sometimes I feel like back in 569 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: the day, Rodney Harrison or Brady, they would just make 570 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: like make things up about people doubting the Patriots. 571 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: Yeah you need the bulletin board material. You don't actually 572 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: need the bulletin board yeah, or the material you could 573 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: just summon the anger from within. 574 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Because imagine if the Patriots had to had to do 575 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: six or seven podcasts a week, Yeah, the type of 576 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: internal toughness they would need to pull that off. 577 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, amid all the scandals and 578 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: investigations and chicanery, imagine if they were distracted, would the 579 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 3: Patriots have ever well won a Super Bowl. 580 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 7: Let's get to this next game with some good veteran 581 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 7: quarterback play. 582 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers were favored 583 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: by five and a half. 584 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 7: Points after getting ran out of SO five Stadium. 585 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: Forty nine and a half is the over under Kevin 586 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: Harland and Trent Green on the call as Jordan because 587 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: it's another opportunity to talk about the twenty twenty five 588 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals defense will maybe enough to make Aaron Rodgers 589 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: in this offense feel better? 590 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 7: No, oh wow, wow? 591 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 5: Oh feel better? 592 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 9: Yes? 593 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 5: Oh okay, I was so ready. 594 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: Come on, maybe Al gold and back Taylor they got 595 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: in the lab during the bye week. 596 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: You don't have faith? 597 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: I was like, why is Matrick so surprised? 598 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Jordan Wilson Al Golden that I don't. 599 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: No, I mean, yes, yes, I do think Aaron Rodgers 600 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: of the Pittsburgh Steelers offense feels much better, uh this week, 601 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 6: not just because the injury status of the opponents still 602 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 6: know Trey Hendrickson, and also the Bengals defense has been 603 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 6: politely porous this season, and the the thing that the 604 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: steel are very very good at on offense despite the 605 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 6: fact that they're lacking in explosiveness and they've been pretty inconsistent, 606 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 6: especially of late. The thing that they do have is 607 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 6: they make a ton of yards after the catch. 608 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 5: Plays. 609 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 6: Well, what is the percentage of yards after the catch 610 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 6: that the Cincinnati Bengals defense has allowed. Sixty two and 611 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 6: a half percent. 612 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: Wow. 613 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 6: Wow, all yards amassed against them have come after the catch, 614 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 6: which also happens to be the majority of yards at 615 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 6: that the Pittsburgh Steelers. 616 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 5: Offense has a massed themselves. Oh wow, circle gets the square. 617 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: I love that for Pittsburgh. 618 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: I love any game that's just in the thirties, and 619 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: that's every Bengals game. 620 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: Sometimes it gets in the forties. 621 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: This feels like a bigger game now because of the 622 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow news that I think at this point, I 623 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: think the over under is he's going to return on Thanksgiving, 624 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: And yet I do wonder, like, how much better can 625 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: they get on offense? 626 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: They're literally first in the league in points, and I 627 00:28:58,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: think he'd be aper place. 628 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: It's still Flacko took over, So maybe it doesn't even 629 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: matter if Joe Burrow is back. Of course it matters 630 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: because we are going to watch the games and everything matters. 631 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like they have to win one of 632 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: these next two games, and they're not easy. This is 633 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: going to be the easier one for Cincinnati before Joe 634 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: Burrow plays. 635 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: Which is a hilarious proposition, But why like, at this 636 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: point you would like Joe to be healthy for twenty 637 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 3: twenty six and in terms of the long term aspirations 638 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: of the Bengals, if they if they don't win this game, 639 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: like I think conceivably you could just shut them down 640 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 3: and understand Joe Burrow wants to play, but this defense 641 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: is so bad it's just a waste of time. 642 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Maybe they came up with some answers. Don't you have 643 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: faith in Zach Taylor to come up with some ANIMs 644 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: during the bye week for you? I don't, But the 645 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: fact that no one even thinks it's possible shows this. 646 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Forget Matt Laflir coaching for his job. It's Zach Taylor. 647 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 6: This is not even about like I mean, it is 648 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 6: because he's the head coach. But like you just you 649 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 6: guys have just said it yourself. This off is playing great. 650 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: Everything is find. 651 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: He's the head coach. 652 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 5: He's the head coach. 653 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: Man, it's one hundred on him. 654 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 6: Well, I'm saying in terms of in the front of 655 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 6: answers on the offensive side. You can't really come up 656 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 6: with much more at this point. It's it's the defense, 657 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 6: it's Zach Taylor hiring Al Golden, it's Al Golden. And 658 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 6: you know, just a lack of personnel as well, and 659 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 6: injuries that have hit them at the wrong times, and 660 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 6: a lack of identifying the right guys for the system 661 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 6: and the wrong system and all of it. 662 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 5: All of it's bad. 663 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 6: So no, I don't believe if they haven't made adjustments 664 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 6: to this point. Yeah, I don't believe one week like 665 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 6: in the Lab, is gonna do more. 666 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't either, And I think this is a 667 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: particularly bad matchup. This could be a moment where it 668 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: all caves in on them because one of the stats 669 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: have been watching. With Flacco, as great as he is, 670 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: he gives up the second there's any pressure. His pressure 671 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: numbers under pressure stop. I mean, you shine when the 672 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: lights turn on, that's when you're the brightest. The second 673 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: there's any pressure, he just gives up. On the play, 674 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: it's over. I think he's second to or third worst 675 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: than the league EPA for play in PFF grade all 676 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: that stuff. When there's any pressure, he just throws it away, 677 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: and they've played, you know, some some poor pass rushing teams. 678 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: Now. 679 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: I know they beat the Steelers and that's but I 680 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: do think home game Steelers in general, it's a tough 681 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: matchup for this offensive line for Cincinnati, and I kind 682 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: of believe in the Steelers players, and I think their 683 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: pass rush is playing better the last few weeks, including 684 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. He just got the ball out, and 685 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it could be a situation where Pittsburgh like 686 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: wins this game convincing that it actually the offense doesn't 687 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: show up for Cincinnati. 688 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 7: Yeah. 689 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: The only reason to not think that is a couple 690 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 3: of plays against the Chargers where there the pressure wasn't there. 691 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 3: And I understand Aaron Rodgers has been trying to get 692 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: rid of the ball quickly and he doesn't have eyes 693 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: in the back of his head, But that throw to 694 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: John hu Smith that ultimately got overturned one of the 695 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: one of the worst Rogers throws I think I've ever 696 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: seen where John wu is all by himself and he 697 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 3: has to climb the ladder to get the ball, comes down, 698 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: ball pops out. There was a DK touchdown that Rogers 699 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 3: just whiffed on and you just wonder. If you're watching 700 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: on YouTube, you can see like Johnny leaning back because 701 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: he thought he thought he was gonna get that ball, 702 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: turn around and run into the end zone and it 703 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: just wasn't there. And so if the Bengals can do anything, 704 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: I think, if they could be somewhat functional, it's a 705 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: great idea for Joe Flacco to get rid of. We 706 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: don't We've seen Jake Browning in this situation. Uh, stay healthy, 707 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: stay upright, Joe. If the play is not there, dirt it, 708 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: give somebody a souvenir, because this, you know, you'll be 709 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: right back on the field with this Bengals defense. 710 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 7: But what if what if not? 711 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: What if Greg, You've you've called it, and Zach Taylor 712 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 3: has said, you know what, Greg Rosenthal, stick it. 713 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 7: I'm going back here. 714 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: We're going to If he sweeps Mike Tomlin with with 715 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, I mean, that's an embarrassment for the Steeler. 716 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 6: Does Zach Taylor keep his job if he sweeps Mike 717 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 6: Tomlin with Joe Flacco? 718 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna keep his job most likely regardless, 719 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: even though I don't think, but yes, I think that 720 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: would be a major step towards that point. 721 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 6: The thing about what you mentioned about Joe Flacco versus pressure, 722 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 6: the thing that Justin Herbert was so good about was 723 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 6: getting the ball out quickly even when the pressure was 724 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 6: coming right. And obviously we know that Joe Flacco will 725 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 6: maybe not tend to do that so much. He will 726 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 6: he more often than not throws it away or like 727 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 6: you said, he dirts it well. When the Steelers get pressure, 728 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 6: especially blitz pressure, they are converting it to sacks among 729 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: the best in the NFL still, And they got a 730 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 6: ton of pressure last week, and I expect them to 731 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 6: get a ton of pressure this week, and we know 732 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 6: that they converted to sacks. Joe Flacco knows that they 733 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 6: converted to sacks, and I do think that that is 734 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 6: a huge hinge point in the game. 735 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 5: Is just ruffling up him just a little. 736 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: They just feel like in every other week team it's 737 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: like great great older athletes have often set no it's 738 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: like some days you wake up and it's just not 739 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: there for you. 740 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: That was Aaron Rodgers last week. It was too late, 741 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 2: just that wasn't his day. 742 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 6: You can get back, hey, you can get eight wins 743 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 6: that way. And who is so good at getting seven 744 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 6: or eight wins. 745 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds about right. 746 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 7: Let's go to our next game. 747 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: The Green Bay Packers are seven point favorites on the 748 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 3: road at MetLife where the over under is forty three 749 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 3: and a half against the Giants, and Jameis Winston will 750 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 3: be starting, Adam Imean and Drew Brees. 751 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah on the call for Fox. 752 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 3: It's a great chance for us to see Jamis first, 753 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: to hear Drew Brees and maybe Greg get a bounce 754 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 3: back for this Green Bay Packers off. 755 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: I might have to draft this game just to scout 756 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: the Breeze situation. Struggled with NBC, didn't make it past 757 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: one year, wanted the job back, you know, made it clear, 758 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 1: did a little Netflix studio in this very building last year. 759 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez loses his job. He's not coming back to Fox. 760 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 7: He's not. 761 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: He's not. Oh, they made that clear. 762 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: Breeze comes in and this is his chance to start 763 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: to start climbing that ladder because who knows, ge Rag 764 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: might be leaving at some point to become the number 765 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: one somewhere else. It's a big opportunity and it would 766 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: be like a Breeze Brady rivalry at some point like 767 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: there's just a lot going on. 768 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 7: With this old teammate starting at quarterback Greg. 769 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: That is very exciting. 770 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I will always wonder what would happen in twenty nineteen 771 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: to that Saints team if Jameis Winston had just stayed healthy. 772 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: He was playing so well back then, then he got 773 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: hurt and it all fell apart. Let's listen to Jameis Winston, yes, 774 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: back in the starting lineup against the package. 775 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 9: I'm on fans and know that I'm going to do 776 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 9: my best. You know, obviously I'm going to have fun, 777 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 9: but I'm going to execute, have a surgical execution, and 778 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 9: just play ball, man like. This is something I've been 779 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 9: doing since I've been four years old, and I just 780 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 9: get to do it in the greatest city in the world. 781 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 9: I'm gonna be saying, what. 782 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: My son, Who's the greatest city in the world. 783 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a Hamilton reference. 784 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 9: If y'all don't know, oh, a teen year reunion. 785 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 2: I did not know. 786 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 5: No, So thank you is a man of Minyon. 787 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: Have you seen Hamilton? 788 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 5: I haven't seen Hamilton. 789 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 6: It's a great regret of mine that I still haven't 790 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 6: after all that years, have not seen it. 791 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 7: We watched it on Disney Plus. 792 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: Okay, oh you can watch it on TV. 793 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. 794 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: It was during the pandemic where we were like, we 795 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 3: hadn't seen this cultural phenomenon. And I do know that 796 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: Jamis has five has two five touchdown games in his career, 797 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 3: and that's three more than slave owners had singing roles 798 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: in Hamilton. So that's that's what I noted from Hamilton. 799 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: I knew with Patrick without even knowing, although you probably 800 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: bagged on it at some point in front of me 801 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: that you would not like Hamilton. 802 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 3: I actually wrote a full on Hamilton mock up song 803 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: where George Washington was singing about the human property and 804 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 3: harvesting their teeth to use for himself. 805 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: I I want to see that play. 806 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 5: You have it with you now, a happy musical we 807 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 5: owe people. 808 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: I haven't. 809 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Hamilton myself, but that Majana soundtrag bangs, 810 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: you know now to give it. 811 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 3: Up, Totlyn, that was Dwayne Johnson's best role. 812 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we should even talk about this game. 813 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: I am annoyed actually that the Jameis Winston has to 814 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: have such a tough matchup because you know, I'm not 815 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: really a must win shock Jock radio guy, You, but 816 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: the Packers really need to win this game. Yeah, Like, 817 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: they just can't lose this game. The rest of their 818 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: schedule is they do not have any easy games the 819 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: entire rest of the season, and just the way everything's happened, 820 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: they just got to go. 821 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: They got to win this game. 822 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: And I think their pack, the defense is is great, 823 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: and I think they will win this game. It's going 824 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: to be a very difficult matchup for Jamis in his 825 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: first and maybe only start. We don't know how long 826 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart will be in the concussion protocol, but it 827 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: was interesting to me they quickly announced he would not 828 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: be starting this week, and Mike Kafka said the decision 829 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: to start Jamis was all his. 830 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: So they're elevating him over Russell. 831 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike Kafka is certainly hoping for a metamorphosis hey 832 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 6: this offense, but I don't think they get one. 833 00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 5: First of all. 834 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 6: Second of all, Green Bay has been playing so much 835 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 6: better on defense over the last couple of weeks, and 836 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 6: it has spotlighted a lot of the struggles they have 837 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 6: on offense. One of the things that has to get 838 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 6: cleaned up is they have to stop dropping passes, Yes, 839 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 6: Jordan Love could play a cleaner game and also there 840 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 6: could be a little bit less like yolo shots from 841 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 6: this scheme in general, they could have a little bit 842 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 6: and it with Tucker Craft out, it's really hard to 843 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 6: do this sort of on the fly. But I have 844 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 6: a hunch that that's probably what Matt Lafleor was looking 845 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 6: at on his tablet is can there be a little 846 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 6: bit more layup options in combination running the and and 847 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 6: also like some of these drops were and the receivers 848 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 6: really talked about this and were actually open even on 849 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 6: social media about catches they wish they would have made 850 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 6: or should have made. 851 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 5: It just everything feels so hard for this offense. 852 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 6: It is a good matchup for the Packers in so 853 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 6: many ways, but especially because we know Matt Lafleur loves 854 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 6: running the ball sometimes maybe a little a little too much, 855 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,479 Speaker 6: but in this game it'll really help. It'll really help 856 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 6: just stabilize everything. And Josh Jacobs looks great and some 857 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 6: of the harder earned yards that he got, especially on 858 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 6: that touchdown, yes, you could tell he is trying to, 859 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 6: like will this offense into more functionality because everything feels 860 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 6: so just difficult and like the atmospheric pressure feels so 861 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 6: tight around this offense in general. Meanwhile, the defense is 862 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 6: really forming. It's I think season long identity. I think 863 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 6: in the first part of the year, you're learning what 864 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 6: you are, especially with Micah Parsons added to the mix 865 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 6: so late before the start of the season, and so 866 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 6: are so close to the start of the season, and 867 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 6: so I think Jeff Haffley and that group is really 868 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 6: discovering like what they actually are and how they actually 869 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 6: want to play. 870 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they had to pitch a perfect game. Yeah, and 871 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: other than making. 872 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: A one on one tackle, it's pretty incredible. 873 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 3: In an ocean of space with say Kwon Barkley and 874 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 3: getting beat by DeVonta Smith. They almost did it, and 875 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 3: they almost had that perfect game. But I think the 876 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 3: glaring thing that I can't take away and I can't 877 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 3: get out of my head was the hot mic on 878 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 3: the field on fourth and two and Marrow Jomo saying 879 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 3: inside zone this way, and so Jalen Carter instantly like 880 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 3: destroys the play and the Eagles are there for the 881 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: stop where it's like that's that's the call. And then 882 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 3: you're Jordan Love and you're hearing Ojomo call out the 883 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,919 Speaker 3: play that you're about to run and then you run 884 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 3: it anyway, and they. 885 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 6: Always get two plays, so you got to have and 886 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 6: they're all in that system. And I don't know specifically 887 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 6: what Green Bay does, but in this tree of coaches, 888 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 6: there's always an emergency third play as well, and so 889 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 6: you have to you have to own that. And if 890 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 6: you're male of floor, you have to be on that, 891 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 6: and you have to be giving your quarterback options as well. 892 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 5: All of these things can be true. 893 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 6: You should run the ball never good when the defense 894 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 6: knows exactly what play in which direction. 895 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: You're right, because they've been doing that every time when 896 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 1: they're in a hurry up situation. And yeah, that's where 897 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: when we talk about like leadership out of quarterback, that's 898 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: sort of it there. That's the type of leadership you 899 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: want is just to be calm in that moment and 900 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: make the right decision. 901 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 2: And they did not. 902 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: Also a big quarterback Island game for Jordan Love. 903 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 2: Oooh wow, crazy. 904 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 3: Me checked all right, I'm gonna check over. Oh yeah, 905 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 3: no points for Jordan Love, negative eight for the prime 906 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 3: time loss. So if he would like to be in 907 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 3: the conversation because after week ten or in week ten. 908 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,280 Speaker 3: That's when things matter. 909 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: Man Jamis Winston plus the fired coach, principal plus seven. 910 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 2: It's a lot of factors together, a whole bunch of advice. 911 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 7: Darius Slayton balls against Cashawn Nickson. 912 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 2: He like about fourteen other players that I'm looking at 913 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: with that. 914 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: We're out of practice at Wednesday, so they are really 915 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: banged up on both sides of the ball. 916 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 2: The Giants right now not good rough one there. 917 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 6: But you know, Hofka is famous for his surreal and 918 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 6: anxiety field stories that explore themes of alienation, existential thread 919 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 6: and overwhelming bureaucracy. 920 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 5: So that sounds like a team that I know, the. 921 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 7: Giants Kafka esque to Madrid. 922 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 3: We go as we Rise, Shine and Watch the Washington 923 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 3: Commanders taking on the Miami Dolphins on an NFL game 924 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 3: for the first time ever in Spain. The Dolphins are 925 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 3: favored by two and a half points because there's two 926 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 3: of their last three games. Do you guys know where 927 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 3: you can see the Miami Dolphins on Sunday morning? 928 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 9: Oh? 929 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 10: In Foul Network, Rise, Shine and Watch, presented by Okay 930 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 10: that app It's a great opportunity that app The folks 931 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 10: in Hawaii watching two of their all time favorites. 932 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 7: Go ahead to head Kenny Albert and John and Vilma 933 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 7: on the call. It's gonna be great. 934 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: What time is it in Hawaii to start this game? 935 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: It would be two thirty in the morning, I believe 936 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: now it would be no. Four to thirty in the morning. Well, 937 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give 938 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: you some reasons. Okay, I knew you guys would be excited. 939 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: This is the finale of the International Series. It's too 940 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: bad Jane Daniels and Terry McLaurin will not be playing, 941 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: or Deron Payin for that matter, who's suspended. Let's ignore 942 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: the commanders for a second. I have come up with 943 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: six reasons. Oh to watch the Miami Dolphins and be intrigued. 944 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: Number one, you're talking about all those extra tight ends, 945 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: you know, all the heavy personnel. We'll grabbing a guy 946 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: who's been a center or a guard his whole career, 947 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: Daniel Brunskill, putting him out on the corner as an 948 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: extra tight end and using heavy formations for half of 949 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: their snaps last week. Number two, Juju Brentz, a second 950 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 1: round pick, very physical, coming off the best game of 951 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: his career, just shutting down Kean Coleman. But whatever, he 952 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: had an incredible game last week. Juju Brent's number three. Oh, 953 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: everyone's just talking about. Oh, the Dolphins defense is terrible 954 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: this year. The Dolphins defense terrible. How about over the 955 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: last month, twelfth in EPA per play allowed, eighth in 956 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: success rate. They've been pretty good for a while now. 957 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: Teams changed, the seasons, have different eras. Number four, Jordan 958 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: Brooks at linebacker, legit Pro Bowl candidate. He's been great. 959 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: Number five to a tongue of Vailoa. There's been ups, 960 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: there's been downs. But when they're ups, that man celebrates. 961 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like he enjoys it. You would not know 962 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: they're having a bad season. If he hits a big pass, 963 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: he's going to stunt on you. And I think the 964 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: Madrid crowd will love that. 965 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 2: Number. Six. What are we at? 966 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle fourth in receiving in the NFL since Tyreek 967 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: Hill got hurt. And then finally I might have said six, 968 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: I got a seventh. There is a path, There is 969 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: a path the Dolphins relevance. You got the Commanders this 970 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: week your favorite you gotta buy undefeated during buys the 971 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. After that the Saints and then at the Jets. Now, 972 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: do I trust this Dolphins team to actually get through 973 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: all those games and win them all? 974 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 2: I feel like two and one is probably the most 975 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 2: likely outcome, but it's pretty doable. It's pretty realistic, doable. 976 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: To see the Dolphins six and seven in the Hunt 977 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: graphic going up against the Steelers in like the middle 978 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: of December. 979 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 2: They could be back. 980 00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: Yes, I agree with you. 981 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 6: I think they are still alive, and I think they 982 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 6: know that they're still alive. And I think whatever is 983 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 6: going on in that building, whether it's the absence of 984 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 6: some people or the addition of like fire. 985 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,959 Speaker 2: Everyone's just fired up because Chris Greer's gone. 986 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 6: No, Tyreek's not there. I mean, and he wanted out 987 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 6: before the start of the season. It's okay, But no, 988 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 6: I don't think that Chris Greer. What's the what's the 989 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 6: turnaround point for especially you know, I don't know that 990 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 6: players are mourning a guy who could have cut them 991 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,200 Speaker 6: at any second or trade of them at any second. 992 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 5: It's just not how it works. But this is this 993 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 5: is impressive. 994 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 6: Anthony Weaver, friend of the show, has helped turn this 995 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 6: defense around. Not only schematically, but really they've uncovered some 996 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 6: incredibly exciting players, young players and guys that just sort 997 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,759 Speaker 6: of fit together. And then on this offense, number eight, 998 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 6: they actually this is keep an eye on this guy 999 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 6: because he is limited this week in practice. But their 1000 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 6: center Aaron Brewer is the fourth rated center on the 1001 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 6: run against the excuse me, let me start that over. 1002 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 6: Their center Aaron Brewer, who was limited in practice this week, 1003 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 6: so keep an eye on that is PFF's fourth rank 1004 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 6: center in run blocking, sixth rngth ranked overall. And if 1005 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,760 Speaker 6: you watch him, and I did go down a rabbit 1006 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 6: hole in isolating some of these run plays because they 1007 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 6: were so they especially last week, they were fun to watch. 1008 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 6: They can really move the ball behind him, and he 1009 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 6: really is I think a huge Jenga piece for that 1010 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 6: entire offensive line, that entire system, and I know they 1011 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 6: love him down there. And it's like they've got like 1012 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 6: guys in sneaky spots that really really matter that are 1013 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,919 Speaker 6: coming together importantly for this team. 1014 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Bradley Chubb had eight pressures in Week ten and 1015 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 3: not to there's still reason to have hope. 1016 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 7: The path is there. 1017 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 3: But the Dolphins early season schedule is the in the 1018 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 3: Hunt graphic I think right, because Greg says it schedule. 1019 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 7: Explains so many things. 1020 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they started Colts, Patriots, Bills right then they get 1021 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 3: a win against the Jets, they lost to the Chargers, 1022 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 3: And yeah, they had the Island game well schedule wise 1023 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 3: against the Carolina Panthers. They lost that by three, and 1024 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: so like the season's kind of hinging right on the 1025 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 3: Panthers and Browns games that the Dolphins looked rough in. 1026 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 3: But yeah, they might be who we thought they were. 1027 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 3: It's just the order of events made it look one way, 1028 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: and we're talking about meetings and TPS reports. 1029 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: When yeah, well it started uglier than you would have expected, 1030 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: and what we thought they were was potentially like a 1031 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: seven to eight win team, and that is where they 1032 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: might end up landing. But they to your point, Aaron 1033 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: Burr's playing where like Patrick Paul has turned into like 1034 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: a franchise left tackle, like out. 1035 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 6: Of any I don't Jackson came back to practice this week. 1036 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 6: His windows open. I don't know how early he's going 1037 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 6: to be back with the team on the field, but 1038 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 6: they if he comes back to they have a pretty 1039 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 6: complete line and who knows. 1040 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn takes over play calling. He's the new coordinator, 1041 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: he'll have that backwards hat on. I don't know if 1042 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: you can you fully count on the Dolphins as like 1043 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: a heavy favorite in any team. In fact that there 1044 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: are only two and a half point favorites, that that 1045 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: one is tempting. I do find it interesting as we 1046 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: head to a break that for the second straight season 1047 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,320 Speaker 1: that Washington Chicago game was kind of like a moment 1048 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: in time with a heart breaking ending. In this case, 1049 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: it was Jade and Daniels fumbling the ball in the rain, 1050 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: at which the loser of that game goes into a 1051 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: free fall that no one could could possibly expect the 1052 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: loser of they got to keep putting Jaden versus Caleb 1053 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: in Week six or seven every year, and then after 1054 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: that happens, one of the teams will completely fall off 1055 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: the face of the earth. 1056 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 2: But they actually they'll be there. 1057 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: They're going to travel this the globe is round, and we. 1058 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,839 Speaker 6: Carried out the planetary alignments during those games because that might, 1059 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 6: you know, we might have some some teach tape moving forward. 1060 00:48:59,040 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this game. 1061 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: We've heard the enthusiasm for the American football product in 1062 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: Madrid is next level, so I'm looking forward to the 1063 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: crowd and the game we will be watching early. 1064 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 2: Let's take one last break. 1065 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: Yes, we break up the early games, that we got 1066 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: two more to go before a crazy big Lake games. 1067 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm crafting a tweet. 1068 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: Patrick for a blue sky or whatever you want to. 1069 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: Call it, or even write writing down notes for the game, 1070 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 1: and you so successfully live inside of so many people's 1071 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: heads that I can hear your response that you won't 1072 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: like this take that I have, and it's related to 1073 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: the Panthers Falcons game, and that it's zeb Bryce Young's 1074 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: got to pick it up a little, and it's it's 1075 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: that I think down the stretch this season, he needs 1076 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 1: to play better than he has been playing this season 1077 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: or they will seek out another quarterback. 1078 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: That's my take. 1079 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't like it because I okay, 1080 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 3: I think he's fun to watch, but yeah, he would 1081 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 3: need to play better. 1082 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: Okay, especially, but I thought you would think that was reactionary, 1083 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: maybe a little too reactionary. 1084 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 2: I think we've reached that point. I've reached that point. 1085 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think people reach that point way too early. Uh, 1086 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: And it was a little silly to reach that point 1087 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 3: at that point. But now we're at this point, which 1088 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 3: is not that point. 1089 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,800 Speaker 6: I think part of the problem in watching last week 1090 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 6: is that it's not like he's not seeing the field. Well, 1091 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 6: it's you know, he's he's a short king, but he's 1092 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 6: seeing the field fine, right. It's not like he's doesn't 1093 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,799 Speaker 6: have options to go to, which was a decade long 1094 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 6: Panthers problem forever. 1095 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 5: We mentioned it earlier on the show. 1096 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 6: And it's not like there's not moments to make a 1097 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 6: throw and he's seeing the throw he needs to make. 1098 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 6: The problem, especially last week, is he was not making 1099 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 6: the throws. And that's coming up a little too much 1100 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,160 Speaker 6: in my opinion this season to feel totally comfortable with 1101 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,399 Speaker 6: where his development is at. 1102 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 3: So a couple of games back, after coming back from 1103 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 3: a high ankle sprain and looking pretty good, especially late 1104 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 3: against the Green Bay Packers on the road, they go 1105 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 3: on the road again to another team that's been flagrantly inconsistent. 1106 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons are three and a half point favorites 1107 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 3: at home. The over under is forty two and a 1108 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 3: half Jordan it was thirty to nothing. Jason Bennetti and 1109 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 3: Brady Quinn on the call for Fox last time. Will 1110 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: it be thirty to nothing the other time. Who are 1111 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 3: both of these teams and why do they do this? 1112 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1113 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,399 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1114 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 6: I started talking about my Bryce Young point before you 1115 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 6: made your great introduction. 1116 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 5: I thought it might help break up some of the monotony. 1117 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: I think that's good. I think we're messing with the 1118 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 1: form of the show. We can do that. Just keep people. 1119 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 5: No, really, I just yeah, but it's it is. 1120 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 6: I don't know who either of these teams are, but 1121 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 6: I do know that I like what I see out 1122 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 6: of the Falcons defense on at least two downs out 1123 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 6: of every out of every four downs like I like 1124 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 6: their blitz ideas. I love the way that jeffel Bridge 1125 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 6: uses Jesse Bates. I think this is going to be 1126 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 6: a huge Jesse Bates game because he is being used 1127 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 6: as this sort of chess piece that we know he is. 1128 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 6: Remember when Arthur Smith used to call him the terminator, 1129 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 6: using him in different blitz packages, simulated pressure, freaking out 1130 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 6: the quarterback every which way, and then roving the field 1131 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 6: in a way that can also mess up a quarterback 1132 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 6: who isn't totally looking as of last week, like he's 1133 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 6: quite sure where he's throwing the ball and isn't quite 1134 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 6: being on target with those throws. So I think this 1135 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,280 Speaker 6: is a massive Jesse Bates is all over the field 1136 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 6: making plays game. 1137 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: And could be a big Jalen Walker game too. He's 1138 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: really the last four or five he's looked like a 1139 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: different player, and he's playing a new position essentially in 1140 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. He is looking like a really good first 1141 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: round draft pick. I think defenses are gonna dare Bryce 1142 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: to beat them because Bryce's is struggling and it's it's 1143 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: not a good receiver group. Like Teed McMillan is a 1144 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: very talented, good player, sometimes he's not on the same page, 1145 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: and then after that it's maybe the worst group in 1146 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: the entire NFL. From two to six down Davie Loguet, 1147 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: we don't even know if he's healthy. And then on 1148 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: the other side, your guy, it's not your guy. I 1149 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: don't know why I say everyone's your guy. Michael Pennix 1150 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,360 Speaker 1: second to last in the league among qualified quarterbacks in 1151 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: terms of beating man coverage EPA per play, So when 1152 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: teams play man against them, he's not a guy who 1153 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 1: either pulls the trigger and just gives his receivers chances 1154 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 1: or can put it on the money, and that's kind 1155 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: of becoming the book on how to attack this Falcons defense. 1156 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 2: So you had a point you made. I remember during the. 1157 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: Breaks of our shows last week, which I thought was great, 1158 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that should have been on the 1159 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 1: show out Like it takes a village for the Falcons 1160 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 1: to have those sort of numbers in Pennix. There was 1161 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: a particular play. Do you remember that play? It was 1162 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,839 Speaker 1: them putting you on the spot. It was a dig to. 1163 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 3: The receiver that was drafted by the Jets forever ago 1164 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 3: that I've already forgotten his name right wrong. 1165 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm I'm forgetting too, certainly not Darnault Mooney. 1166 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 2: No, but either way it. 1167 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: Sort of takes away It raises the point of like 1168 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: a lot is going into him struggling like this, I 1169 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: think in general, and what their passing game is struggling with. 1170 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: But he is not a guy who's like able to 1171 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: lift up the team. 1172 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was David Sills. 1173 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,360 Speaker 3: That's one of the few targets in between the hashes 1174 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 3: where he was wide open and Pennix missed him, and 1175 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 3: like they didn't go there the rest of the game, 1176 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 3: not the Sills, but that part. 1177 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 7: Of the field. 1178 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, the middle part of the field which continues to 1179 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 6: come up over and over and over again. 1180 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 5: We talked about Michael Penn. 1181 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 6: Who takes difficult level throws, only it seems like and 1182 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 6: really their passing game flows through Drake London and the 1183 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 6: odd chance that they actually deploy Jean Robinson in the 1184 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 6: passing game as well, to the point where I think 1185 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,719 Speaker 6: I saw a report out of Atlanta today that they 1186 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 6: were trying out receivers. So it's like, you know, it 1187 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 6: spells an absence of layers, It spells an absence of 1188 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 6: guys that they trust. And it also, I mean, it's 1189 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 6: a cacophony of problems here with this offense. And I 1190 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 6: think that's it starts with the quarterback obviously, but it 1191 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 6: also is it's everybody in my opinion. 1192 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: I mean, throwing the pass to Darnell Mooney. This season, 1193 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: he is thirteen for thirty five, which is like a 1194 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: below average week for show. Hey, o, Tony, you know 1195 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that is that should not be 1196 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: an NFL number. 1197 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,800 Speaker 7: If Mooney catches that ball on Third Dome. 1198 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 2: Just try to keep our Dodgers fan Eric engaged here. 1199 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, if Mooney catches the ball in that game against 1200 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 3: the Cold I think the conversation about both teams, Yeah, would. 1201 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 2: Got to win this game. I mean it's a big 1202 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 2: one for both teams. 1203 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: But you got you can't get swept by the Panthers 1204 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: if you're the Falcon. 1205 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 6: It's so crazy how I'm thinking about how much more 1206 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 6: promising a still bad overall Panthers receivers group is comp 1207 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 6: comparatively to what we know to be miss after miss 1208 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 6: after miss after miss, after lack of weapon after lack 1209 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 6: of weapon after lack of weapon. For that team, whoever 1210 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 6: scouting receivers for them, someone. 1211 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 5: New needs to come in there. Strong take, strong take, well, 1212 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 5: just for help. 1213 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to get rid of them, Yeah, no, 1214 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 3: you know, just bring in some folks who maybe do 1215 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 3: things differently than you do your job, which is not 1216 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,879 Speaker 3: very good. The Houston Texans and Davis Mills perhaps on 1217 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 3: the road seven point favorites. Remember the Tennessee Titans. They 1218 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 3: took a break, that's a week. 1219 00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 5: Off, still playing football. 1220 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 7: It still exists. The over under is thirty nine and 1221 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 7: a half. 1222 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 3: Greg Chris, Chris Myers and Mark Laira are on the 1223 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,720 Speaker 3: call and in the Houston Texans folks don't look now 1224 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 3: they're on their way. 1225 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,479 Speaker 1: Gren I still don't think enough has been made about 1226 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: the Mills of sons going on No that game, I 1227 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: don't know. There was something that just there's something about 1228 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter that I want to believe sparks this 1229 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: Texans team because they've just been waiting for it. They've 1230 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: lost a lot of heartbreakers. They have the number one 1231 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. According to Dvoa, They're gonna have 1232 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: Davis Mills as their quarterback. It sounds like for another week, 1233 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 1: which is disappointing obviously for Texans fans and for CJ. 1234 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: Stroud's health because he is still experiencing concussion symptoms a 1235 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: week and a half after suffering the injury, so you 1236 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,439 Speaker 1: don't know if this is going to be more weeks, 1237 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: but it sounds like he's not close to playing this week. 1238 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: But Davis Mills showed you know what the offensive coordinator 1239 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: is there for, and more importantly, like what Chulton Nico 1240 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 1: Collins especially is incredible in that game are there for. 1241 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: And I do think they have enough to work with 1242 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 1: to win a game like this now favored by a 1243 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 1: touchdown with Davis Mills as your quarterback. 1244 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 2: Is that's a take. 1245 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 5: That's a take. I mean, that's a strong take. 1246 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 1: That's that's looking at what the Titans have done against 1247 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 1: mediocre defenses and thinking what could they possibly do against 1248 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: this Texans defense? 1249 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 2: And I get that take. 1250 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Calvin Ridley perhaps in this one. And so 1251 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 3: it's like it's all in Jamiri dk not in the 1252 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,479 Speaker 3: return game, but maybe in the receiving game as well. 1253 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,600 Speaker 3: He and Io Man are and maybe you know, there's 1254 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 3: been a chance a buye gives them an opportunity a 1255 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 3: couple of weeks to prepare for a really good Houston 1256 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 3: Texans defense. But that's where the spark comes from. I 1257 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 3: don't necessarily know those Davis Mills. I think that was 1258 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 3: more bad Jags. D made some nice throws back even 1259 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 3: better catches on some of those nice throws. 1260 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: And there was there was an opportunity or two for 1261 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to end the game with an interception that 1262 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: they didn't take advantage of. 1263 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 7: That. 1264 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you can ask for out of your 1265 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I think he's I truly do believe he's 1266 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 1: got quarterback. 1267 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 2: He's like average. You could do worse. 1268 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 5: Is Jake Browning finally off the list. 1269 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 2: I mean he's off. 1270 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow, out of the conversation. 1271 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean all we had to go off was was 1272 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: that magical, magical seven game. 1273 00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 5: You'll never forget it. 1274 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 6: I think this is a lot of cam Ward has 1275 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 6: to throw on the run because those pass rushers are 1276 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 6: going to get after it and those dbs can cover forever. 1277 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 6: So this is a lot of tight window throws and 1278 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 6: cam Ward trying to make things happen, which will be 1279 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 6: fun to watch. 1280 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 5: I hope he is okay at the end of this one. 1281 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 6: But yeah, this is this is going to be I 1282 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 6: think just that that that will be the script for 1283 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 6: the Titans. 1284 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 2: And and it will be on Mike McCoy. 1285 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: They're intimate head coach and Kim Ward's going to show 1286 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: their work in terms of what they did coming out 1287 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 1: of the buy because it was not a cohesive offense beforehand, 1288 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: and they still have a lot of development and games 1289 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 1: to play here for cam wore or the rest of 1290 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: the season. We have some of the biggest games of 1291 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 1: the entire season coming up. 1292 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 2: In our late game preview. 1293 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Depending on how you sort your power rankings, Patrick, we 1294 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 1: have the top four NFC teams facing off maybe a 1295 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,280 Speaker 1: divisional round preview that is coming. 1296 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Up in the late games. Previews stick with us