1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: The New York Times doubles down on outlandish Trump conspiracy theories. Also, 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has issued a bunch of rulings. It's 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: about that time of year where they send out a 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and we got to look at all 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: of it. And reckless language in the Boston area by 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: the Boston Mayor prompts a response from the Department of 7 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Homeland Security. All that more coming up on this episode 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: of Turning Point Tonight. My name is Joe Bob. Thanks 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. Together, we are charting the 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: course of America's cultural comeback. This is Turning Point Tonight. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Before we get to any of those stories and our 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: fantastic panel, we have to talk about the Evil Evil 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Travel Band. And I only say that because I'm mocking 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the Libs who call everything Trump does evil. Now, if 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: you remember, the last time President Trump was in trouble 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: with the Libs was of because the Muslim Band, which 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: banned people from countries where if you walked around all 18 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: day you wouldn't be able to find a Muslim. Nevertheless, 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: they called it the Muslim ban again despite having countries 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: that were not Islamic in any way, shape or form, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: but that's beside the point. Here's the big problem with 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: this new travel band. I'm sure you've already heard. President 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Trump is banning entry from people from Afghanistan, Burma, Chad, 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Air Trea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and Yemen. And the Libs are struggling to figure out 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: how they can hate this because last time the whole 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: Muslim ban thing didn't really work considering the fact that 28 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: well they weren't Muslim countries, and at this point they're 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: kind of going through their options. Well, can we say 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: it's a race thing? Okay? Well, well he has his 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: African countries and Middle Eastern countries and Asian countries, so 32 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: it's well, it's actually very inclusive the countries that he's 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: included in this ban. Okay, can it Can it be 34 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: a religion thing? Okay? Well, half of some of these 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: countries are our Christian nations that there's run terribly. It's 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: because we can't be that. Can it be a weight thing, 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: well no, because everybody in this country. These countries are 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: starving and they're usually very skinny, but so it can't 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: be that they're trying to figure out and desperately unable 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: to find how to hate the new Trump bad, but 41 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: they're trying. Nevertheless, Congresswoman Permilla Jiapaul, is an America hating 42 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: socialist in my opinion, said this, and I thought this 43 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: was very funny. Banning a whole group of people because 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: you disagree with the structure or function of their government 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: not only lays blame in the wrong place, it creates 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: a dangerous precedent. All right, well, Congresswoman Giapaul riddled me this. 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: The country based their entire populace around let's just say, 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the graphic description here pooping in their 49 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: hands and throwing it at their neighbors. Should we say, hey, 50 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: maybe we don't want that here? Is that a good idea? 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: Can we draw the line at least there? And if 52 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: she would agree that, yeah, that that's not good, maybe 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: we shouldn't do that, Wait till she hear what's going 54 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: on in some of the countries on this list. The 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: atrocities listed in so many of these countries are way 56 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: way worse so in the ideal world, I don't think 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: Congressman ji Paul that that argument makes a ton of sense. 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: But again, feel free to continue trying to find a 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: way to hate the travel Band, which hopefully in the 60 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: intent is to keep that keeps American people, the American 61 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: citizens safe. Here to comment on that and so much 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: more is walk Away spokesperson Natalie Jean Bisner and comedian 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Matt Wriggle. Guys, thanks so much for joining us. Really 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. 65 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me. 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: Just a just a quick note here because it's it's 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: funny and I think people sometimes appreciate the behind the 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: scenes look. We had a cancelation. Gavin Wax was supposed 70 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: to be on the show. Matt thankfully filled in. Gavin. 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: It looks like might be running the FCCS, so he 72 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 1: had a little bit, a little bit of a priority 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: come up. And I don't think Matt, you're in that situation, 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: would you say so? 75 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't mean to tell you this. We're gonna 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: have to make this go speedy because there's a chance 77 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: in about a half hour I may become the director 78 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: of the CIA. I mean, it's not impossible. I'm just 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: saying it could happen. So you know, we could just 80 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 4: move this along. I appreciate it. 81 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: It's very possible, but I wouldn't count on it. It 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: was either the CIA or the w n B A, 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember. We're talking about something very serious here, 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: trying trying to hate something, and that they're not having 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: a good time. Natalie. 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 87 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: You know, again, just because Trump doesn't means it's obviously 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: bad to the libs and the lib media. You know. 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: At the same time, all of this is very defensible. 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: A lot of these countries have atrocities, but aside from that, 91 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: you've got a system where they don't have a practical way, 92 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: a structural way of id people, and therefore the people 93 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: that come over here don't have passports, they overstay their 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: visas and all that sort of stuff. I mean to me, 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: this seems thoroughly reasonable, right, Yeah. 96 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it's also not a surprise because I think 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: one of the first things Trump did on his first 98 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: day in office was sign an executive order that directed 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio to look at which countries don't have the 100 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: proper vetting, and so we kind of knew that this 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: was coming. And one of the other things that Jaya 102 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Paul said is that it's bad for our economy because 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: we rely on contributions from these people, and I mean 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: no offense, but I don't think that we like heavily 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: rely on contributions from really any of these countries, you know. 106 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: And Afghans can still get their special visa if they 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: helped us in the war. That kind of thing that's 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: not going away. But I think, I mean, I'm like 109 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 2: a hawk on this. I think our security should come 110 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: before anybody's feelings of being discriminated against. I think we 111 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: could go even further. Tom Homan talking about how the 112 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: Biden administration had two million at least known godaways, meaning 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: people who paid even more to where they not just 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: got to the border, they didn't turn themselves into border patrol. 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: They paid more to never ever be apprehended, never be vetted. 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: And he's worried about another nine to eleven over that. 117 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: So obviously this travel ban isn't going to affect the 118 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: people who are already here and we don't know where 119 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: they are and we're looking for them. But I think 120 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: we need to do whatever we can do because this 121 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: is probably like the biggest national security threat that we've 122 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: had in my lifetime. So I say go further. 123 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, And also I think legal 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: experts are saying this will probably hold up in the 125 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Supreme Court, even though I'm sure he's going to be 126 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: hit with a bunch of lawsuits. Matt. Now he brought 127 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: up the economic impact. You know, how will we ever 128 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: recover without the trade that we do with Equatorial Guinea 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: or Eritrea, which some people are probably hearing those countries 130 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: name for the first time. Will we rec from this? 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: I think so. 132 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: I think the worst thing that you know, you could 133 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: probably say about the list of countries is, you know, 134 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: it looks like on the surface of it, Trump, you know, 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: watched all the Rambo movies and then just banned all 136 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: the countries that they take place in. But you know, 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 4: it's interesting the timing of the conversation because last night 138 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: I watched a new documentary on Netflix. It was about 139 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: the hunt for Bin Laden and one of the things 140 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: they talk about in there is how some of the 141 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: CIA operatives that were looking for him long before nine 142 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: to eleven were blamed for the attack when they were 143 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 4: looking for someone to blame. And it kind of reminds 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: me of this as something that if there was to 145 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: be an attack by someone from from one of those countries, 146 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: the blame would be why didn't you do something about this? 147 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 4: So it's one of those things that somebody's going to 148 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 4: get blamed for it either way, and then Trump's He's 149 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: going to get it more than anybody else. 150 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: That's a That's a great point. If God forbid, something 151 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: does happen and they do come from one of these countries, 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: they're and be like, hey, why didn't we do anything? 153 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: We had all this intel, we saw the fact that 154 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: none of these people had appropriate identification. Yeah, that's a 155 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: very good point. Speaking of people not making good points, 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: I want to play this. The Boston mayor, who is 157 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: just a just a woke, crazy person in my personal opinion, 158 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: said well, let play you guys the clip, and I'd 159 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: love to get your reaction. What she said prompted a response, 160 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: and we'll play the clip first and then the response. 161 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: Watch this. 162 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 6: I don't know of any police department that routinely wears masks. 163 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 6: We know that there are other groups that routinely wear masks. 164 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 6: NSC one thirty one routinely wears masks. 165 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 7: And they are just a clarifier. 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: You're comparing ice, you said to NSC. 167 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 6: One thirty one, the neo Dazi group are you comparing 168 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 6: them to a neo Nazi? What I said is that 169 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 6: Boston Police and no police department that I know of 170 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 6: at the local level routinely wears masks. 171 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: In other words, that's a yes, she definitely compared ICE 172 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: to neo Nazi groups. Here is the response from the 173 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: folks over at ICE watch this. 174 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: Federal agents in marked jackets and vests are masking their 175 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: faces because people like mayor WU have created false narratives 176 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: about their mission. Federal agents and their children are being threatened, doxed, 177 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 3: and assaulted. That is why they must hide their faces. Furthermore, 178 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: suggesting that federal law enforcement officers are quote snatching people 179 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: off the streets is also false. It's offensive to the 180 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: men and women who risk their lives every day to 181 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: uphold the rule of law. 182 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a pretty appropriate response, Natalie. I 183 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: guess I think the just overarching thing here is libs 184 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: just being so loose with really really heated rhetoric on 185 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: this whole keeping the law and order. It's not like 186 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: something that's super outlandish. If you're in the country legal, 187 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: you should be deported. And then to then equate that 188 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: to some of the worst people out there feels like 189 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: I think they're just being reckless and careless with their words. 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: Where does that lead us? 191 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're constantly reckless and careless. I think 192 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: even what Tim Wall saying, we need to bully more, 193 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: it's like to a man who has had two assassination attempts. 194 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: I mean, they always say, let's tone it down, but 195 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: then they never actually do tone it down. And this 196 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: is funny to me because I think it was in 197 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two that this mayor went on an Instagram 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: live and she wanted to talk about other things, but 199 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: she was inundated with questions from her constituents about why 200 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: they still had a mask mandate in the city. And 201 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: I mean Libs will defend masks and your right to 202 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: wear a mask into like the bitter end, and whenever 203 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: you go to a protest, it's always the Libs who 204 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: are fully masked in black black box. So you know, 205 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: it seems a little bit disingenuous to me. And I 206 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: do think there's probably a real concern over being docs. 207 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: I think that there's probably a rise in animosity towards 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: ice agents and it's fair to have them cover their faces. 209 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: They're in marked shirts, and everything else, and yeah, if 210 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: you're here illegally, we've all known that ice is you 211 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: are susceptible to ice. 212 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's fascinating, Matt. I thought, when she 213 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: was talking about people wearing mask who's gonna start talking 214 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: about Antifa? Because every protest that I go to, I don't. 215 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't go their protest. I tend to see what's 216 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: going on because usually people are heckling Charlie or something. 217 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: All of those people are always masked. I thought that's 218 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: where she was going with that. Initially, I was surprised 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: that she was talking about something else. 220 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I where was that opinion on masks during COVID? 221 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 4: You know? But you know I also I also, I 222 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: do want to say, I see where it's coming from. 223 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: Because if you can't spell Nazie an Ice are spelled 224 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: the same, so you know, yeah. 225 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: If you everything is the same in their book, regardless 226 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: of whether or not it's right wrong. As long as 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: they hate it, it's good for them. I guess anger 228 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: is in an argument lives try to learn that Natalie 229 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Matt will be right back after the break to discuss 230 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: the New York Times, and they're outlandish. I use air quotes, 231 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: but it's literally. They called it outlandish a President Trump 232 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: trying to do something that I think is thoroughly reasonable, 233 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: and I think most people would agree with that. And 234 00:12:45,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: more coming up after the break, don't go away, Welcome 235 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are charting 236 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: the course of America's cultural comeback. Let's check in with 237 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Turning Points. White House correspondent Monica Page at the White House, 238 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: Monicga A lot going on. President Trump talked with the 239 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: Jijenping for for a long time today. Can you tell 240 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: us about what it said that they talked about and 241 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: what's going to come of that? You think? 242 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, President Trump hoosting on truth social this morning. Unexpected call. 243 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 7: Not many of us were expecting him to hold this 244 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 7: phone call with Ji Jinping. The phone call lasted about 245 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 7: an hour and a half worth of two really discussed 246 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 7: the trade negotiations moving forward. President Trump said it was 247 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 7: a very positive outcome. He wanted to make that up 248 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 7: note and that both sides are going to come to 249 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 7: the table in person at some point. President Trump says 250 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 7: he's going to deploy Scott Bessen, Howard Lutnik, and Jamison 251 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 7: Brier to kind of do the work on his behalf 252 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 7: and on behalf of the United States with China's team. 253 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 7: The date on that, by the way, is to be determined. 254 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 7: We don't know an exact date just yet. And also 255 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 7: Jijenping invited Donald Trump first Lady Malania Trump to China, 256 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: So maybe we'll see a trip to China in the 257 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 7: future question mark, we'll definitely see. But nonetheless, positive conversation 258 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 7: and a surprise phone call that left many of us 259 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 7: kind of reporting us I'm breaking news regarding that phone call. 260 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 7: And since the tensions between the United States and China 261 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 7: have been wrapping up for quite some time, we're very 262 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 7: happy to learn that it was a positive discussion. 263 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm curious about this and you might not 264 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: know and that's no. Just curiously, are these things are 265 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: really tight lift the White House can be really tight 266 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: lipped on link. Was this planned at all? Or is 267 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: it kind of like if I just rang you up 268 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: on a random Tuesday and we chatted for a while. 269 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: How much of the planning do you know about if 270 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: they're letting any of that information out. 271 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 7: Well, I'm assuming that this conversation was planned, but it 272 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 7: was definitely under wraps for quite some time, considering the 273 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 7: fact that these conversations they can be really detailed. There's 274 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 7: some top secret information. You want to make sure you 275 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 7: have all the right people in the room at the 276 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 7: right time. So I'm assuming this one was planned but 277 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 7: definitely kept under wraps for us in the media. 278 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. Also going on the White House, the 279 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: German Chancellor, which it always blows my mind anytime the 280 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: German Chancellor comes up. They haven't changed the title of that. 281 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I just you know, there's I don't know if people 282 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: know history or anything, but the German Chancellor not always 283 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the best person to deal with. The German Chancellor was 284 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: in the White House with President Trump. Anything come out 285 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: of that, I know, it's probably probably a little bit 286 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: quiet because I think I think some of the European 287 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: leaders are trying not to make a ton of noise 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: right now. But anything coming out of there that's interesting. 289 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a great point. Joe Bob, the German Chancellor 290 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 7: mergency just left the White House. This is his first 291 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 7: visit to the White House since taking office around May 292 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 7: six is when he was elected to the position. Talks China, Trade, Ukraine, 293 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 7: foreign adversaries and foreign partners NATO obviously also being one, 294 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: but it's a very newsy discussion. Definitely no fireworks as 295 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 7: we've previously seen with the South African president or of 296 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 7: Vladimir Zelenski, Ukrainian president, but essentially, for what we do know, 297 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 7: Germany's the biggest economy in the EU and he was 298 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 7: trying to ease some tensions regarding trade. We know those 299 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 7: fifty percent tariffs that were supposed to be implemented on 300 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 7: June first have been delayed to July ninth, so we'll 301 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 7: see if anything comes of that, but we do know 302 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 7: that trade was definitely the biggest topic of conversation behind 303 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 7: closed doors. They had that meeting and then they had lunch. 304 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 7: So nonetheless, nothing crazy came out of the White House 305 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 7: today regarding this meeting. But of course it's still early 306 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 7: before those tariffs go into effects, so anything could happen. 307 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just waiting for the headlines from all the 308 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: lib outlets of President Trump meets with the German Chancellor. 309 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: You know who else did that? The Nazis, Because oh 310 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, gizz let me break with that. I don't 311 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: know that that's actually coming, but I just assume that 312 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: that's kind of headline we'd see from the Lib media 313 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Monica page. Turning Boys, White House correspondent, thanks for taking 314 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: the time, Thanks so much, Jobob, Thank you. Just when 315 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: you think The New York Times can't get Eddie crazier. 316 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: But by the way, I read the New York Times, 317 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: so you don't have to. I'm going to read verbatim 318 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: an article that was in the New York Times. I 319 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: think it was in the news section, and it was 320 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: a guy being serious. The headline is Trump orders investigation 321 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: of Biden and his aides. The executive order is the 322 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: latest by President Trump to stoke outlandish conspiracy theories about 323 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: his predecessor and questions the legality of his actions in office. 324 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Let's bring our panel back before I read some of 325 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: the more hilarious parts. Natalie Bisener and Matt Riggle join us. 326 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: Guys. 327 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so there we're setting the tone there. He's pushing 328 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: outlandish conspiracy theories. What are those outlandish conspiracy theories working 329 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to examine whether or not President Biden's actions were legally 330 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: invalid because his aides had enacted those policies without his knowledge. 331 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: I feel like everybody with eyes that could see Joe 332 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: Biden would go, yeah, I think that might actually be 333 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: a problem. Maybe we should investigate it. But no, not 334 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: to the New York Times, it is outlandish, Natalie, I 335 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: don't know, am I crazy? Is this not that crazy 336 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: of an outlandish conspiracy theory to go, Hey, maybe we 337 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: should check into the legality of the auto pen What 338 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: did he know? What didn't he know? I feel like 339 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: this is reasonable. 340 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: Uh No, it's definitely a strong possibility. And the fact 341 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 2: that they're still calling it a conspiracy theory when now 342 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: what is it? How many books have come out about this, 343 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: and Karine Jean Pierre is coming out with a book 344 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: that seems to be pretty damning to the although it's 345 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: poorly timed and should have come out sooner, it seems 346 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 2: to be damning towards the Bien White House, So they 347 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: can keep calling it conspiracy theories. But I don't think 348 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 2: this story is going anywhere anytime soon. I think we're 349 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: just seeing the tip of the iceberg, and it's gonna 350 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 2: get worse and more people are gonna come out and 351 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: it's not going to be anonymous anymore. 352 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, good luck with that, Matt. I guess from 353 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: a guy who crafts words for a living as a comedian, 354 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: you do as well. Where do you go if something 355 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 1: truly outlandish happens? Let's just say, you know, hypothetically, the 356 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: president gets abducted by aliens one day, gets brought back 357 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: within twelve hours. What do they say? Then they've already 358 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: used outlandish conspiracy on looking into something thoroughly reasonable. 359 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I know you read the New York Times, 360 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: so we don't have to, but I read it anyway. 361 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 4: And you know, one of the other conspiracies is you 362 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 4: know that he was replaced with a robot. And and personally, 363 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: if I were Biden, I would have been like, oh, 364 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: I totally was like, that wasn't me, Like I wouldn't 365 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: want to take credit for the things, you know, the law, 366 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: the pardons, all that stuff. And then another interesting wording 367 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: in the New York Times was Trump and his he 368 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: was he was retaliating against his perceived enemies. And perceived 369 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: could also be a word that you use when you 370 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: say Michael Jordan was perceived to know how to play basketball. 371 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well it's fascinating too. Just to just to 372 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: be fair too, they they did I highlight something that 373 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: I understood clearly as a joke. But again libs take 374 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: everything seriously and exactly. They were like, oh, well Trump 375 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: retruth something that some person said, and I was like, yeah, 376 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: this is this is clearly a joke. Interesting how you 377 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: didn't link that New York Times. But I don't know. 378 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: The New York Times making stuff up as they always do. 379 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't It doesn't really surprise anybody. What also shouldn't 380 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: surprise anybody is Supreme Court kind of making some big announcements. 381 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: This is kind of the time of the year where 382 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: they they they drop all of their hearings or they 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: drop all of their their their cases on the American public, 384 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: and then they head for the hills. Don't answer any 385 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: questions because I don't know why would you want to. 386 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: But Supreme Court ruling on a bunch of different things, Natalie. 387 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: One of those is the reverse discrimination thing. There was 388 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: a case where a woman said, hey, I had to 389 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: reach a higher standard because I didn't fit any sort 390 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: of minority status. I wasn't gay, I wasn't an immigrant 391 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: or whatever other you know, DEI things, And Supreme Court said, no, 392 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: you can't hold people who don't categorize themselves in any 393 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: sort of diverse way, in like in a higher standard 394 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: than you do with other people. They also were interestingly 395 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: enough unanimous on saying that in Mexico as a country 396 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: couldn't sue US manufacturers. They also said, yeah, Catholic to 397 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: have free speech in that case in Wisconsin. We don't 398 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: have to go through the litany of this, But Natalie, 399 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: it kind of seems like the Supreme Court, because some 400 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: of the cases have been so outlandish. To use that 401 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: term again, it seems like Supreme Court, even some of 402 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the lib justices are are going, yeah, some of this 403 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: is crazy, and we're going to vote unanimously on some 404 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: of this stuff. I guess, I don't know. Do you 405 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: think Supreme Court ultimately will will retain its position as 406 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: the most respected branch of the US government. 407 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's tough to say, but these were 408 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: definitely some wins for you know, American values and for conservatives, 409 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: and I'm happy with them. I'm not happy with everything 410 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court does, obviously, but yeah, I think it's 411 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: shocking but not surprising that if you're a member of 412 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: a majority group, up until now you had to have 413 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: a further burden of proof that you were discriminated against 414 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: because it used to be They said that it was 415 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: unusual for an employer to discriminate against a member of 416 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: a majority group. But it seems to me like that 417 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: would be pretty usual given the fact that we have 418 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: these DEI programs and affirmative action. I think a lot 419 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: of people probably did were more likely to discriminate against men, 420 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: and against white people and against straight people. So it's 421 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: nice that that has maybe been you know, we're moving 422 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: away from that. We all have the same equal birth 423 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: to a proof when it comes to proving discrimination. And 424 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: then Mexico tried to sue US for a ten billion 425 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: or two US gun manufacturers for ten billion dollars in damages, 426 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: which I think is pretty crazy because I would like 427 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: to sue Mexico for all the people in the drugs 428 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: that they send over the border, you know. So I'm 429 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: glad that the Supreme Court unanimously saw that that was 430 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: a silly lawsuit and maybe Mexico should get their cartel 431 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: members under control instead of blaming the guns. I don't 432 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: I don't really understand that at all. 433 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was crazy, but I'm glad. I'm glad the 434 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Supreme Court said no, you can't do that in every 435 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: single one of them agreed. Speaking of Mexico, Matt, there 436 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: is a new warning coming out from US officials saying 437 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: there's a security threat to people who Americans who vacation 438 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: in Mexico and may use dating apps. You got to 439 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: be cautious of kidnapping, you know, in order to separate 440 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: ourselves from a culture that this is a huge problem 441 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: with tourists. It's going to places and using various apps 442 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and being susceptible to kidnapping. I don't know, maybe we 443 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: should build a wall between us in that country, you know, 444 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe maybe a crazy idea. Your thoughts on the warning 445 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: coming out from the US government. 446 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 4: Well, you know, as if the results weren't good enough 447 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: already with online dating and dating apps in this country, 448 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: we were going down to Mexico to try it, which 449 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 4: is kind of like being in this country and saying, 450 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: you know, the water isn't that great, Let's go to 451 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 4: Somalia and try their water, and and you know, uh, 452 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: I don't even think the daughter in taken was that 453 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 4: stupid to use a dating app in Mexico. I mean, 454 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 4: like I'll put it to both of you, like if 455 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: you went down there and got captured by use of 456 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 4: a dating app. Would you bother calling the embassy? I'd 457 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 4: be too embarrassed. 458 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 459 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: In other words, maybe don't maybe just don't do that. 460 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: It's good that the United States has a warning, but 461 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: also you exercise some I don't know logic there to 462 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: go with data gaps and forward countries lest you be kidnapped, 463 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: which would be a terrible thing. Nobody wants to see 464 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: that happen. Natalie gene Bisner, Matt Wriggle, Guys, thank you 465 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. 466 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you. 467 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: Come out. Next we check back in with Monica Page 468 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: and a really really awesome thing that the Trump has 469 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: done reopening the Voice Office. 470 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 4: What is it? 471 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 8: You'll find out right after the break. 472 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight. We're together. We are 473 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. My name is Jobob. 474 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for sticking with us. We've got a 475 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: treat today, two Monica appearances on the show. Monica Page, 476 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: Turning Points, White House correspondent with a brilliant package this 477 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: and we'll discuss with her the Voice Office back in 478 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: effect in the Trump administration. 479 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 7: American citizens are no stranger to a President Trump has 480 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 7: labeled as migrant crime. Rachel Morin, Joscelyn Nungray, Lincoln Riley, 481 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 7: Kayla Hamilton, Ruby Garcia, and now mother of two, Larisia 482 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 7: Cherrell Thompson all have seen their lives ended at the 483 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 7: hands of illegal aliens. In an incident that appears to 484 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 7: be under reported, six illegal aliens from Honduras between the 485 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 7: ages of thirteen and twenty one were charged with the 486 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 7: murder of South Carolina mother Larisia Thompson. Local reports suggest 487 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 7: the six illegal aliens pulled up along Thompson's vehicle, fatally 488 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: shot her and attempted to enter her vehicle. The Lancaster 489 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 7: County Sheriff's office weighed in on this heinous murder, admitting 490 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 7: these individuals should have never been here. 491 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 9: We have six individuals in our community. 492 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 5: UH for number one that wasn't supposed to be here, 493 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 5: and two took the life of an innocent lady. 494 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: Was out here trying to get something from net. 495 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 10: Uh. 496 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 11: People like this have no place in our society. 497 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 7: One of these illegal aliens was previously arrested for domestic 498 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 7: violence back in twenty twenty three and they now await 499 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 7: criminal prosecution in the state of South Carolina. But where 500 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 7: do these families let these victims go? Who do they 501 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 7: turn to you for support after losing their loved ones. 502 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 7: To answer these questions, President Trump created the Voice Office 503 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 7: the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement Office. It was established 504 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen to fulfill President Trump's commitment to helping 505 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 7: those affected by violence carried out by criminal aliens. 506 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 9: ICE created the Voice Office and response to our President's 507 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 9: Executive Order entitled Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of 508 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 9: the United States. All crime is terrible, but these victims, 509 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 9: as represented here, are unique, and they're all too often ignored. 510 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 7: It provided support and resources to victims and their families, 511 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 7: helped individuals navigate the complex immigration system, track the offenders 512 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 7: Goudy status, and access victim impact statements and social service providers. 513 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 7: In twenty eighteen alone, the Voice Office fielded seven hundred 514 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 7: and eighty one calls during a three month period. Approximately 515 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty six of the calls pertained to 516 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 7: the services it offered, and half requests of immigration cases, 517 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 7: referrals or assistance to social services to help cope with 518 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 7: the impacts of domestic violence or assault, but former President 519 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 7: Joe Biden dismantled that in twenty twenty one. The reason 520 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 7: behind that decision to deny the existence of migrant crime. 521 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: Under Joe Biden, ice replaced the Voice Office for what 522 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 7: it considered to be a more comprehensive and inclusive victim 523 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 7: support system. So instead, the Biden administration completely overhauled the 524 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 7: office and created the Victim's Engagement and Services Line for 525 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 7: people to report abuse and mistreatment of illegal aliens in 526 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 7: detention centers, and become a notification system for lawyers handling 527 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 7: immigration cases. While humanitarian advocates championed it, critics argued this 528 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 7: signal the more lean approach to border security. Stephen Miller 529 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 7: previously called the decision to close Voice a quote moral 530 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 7: stain on the conscience of our nation. But since President 531 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 7: Trump's reelection, a DHS Secretary Christy Nome announced the reopening 532 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 7: of the Voice Office. 533 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 12: The Biden administration shuttered this office, and to look at 534 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 12: the history of it, there was no reason to do 535 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 12: so other than a complete disregard for the tragedy that 536 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 12: these families have had to live with. 537 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 7: So victims and their families of Joe Biden's illegal alien 538 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 7: crime can be provided with not only the resources they need, 539 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 7: but also a voice, once again from the White House 540 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 7: forefront lines with turning point. I'm Monica page. 541 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: Awesome, love to see it. Let's bring Monica Page back, 542 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: turning points. White House correspondent Monica that was moving is is. 543 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: It's an emotional thing, but it's also just a a 544 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: factual and logistical thing of just like, wow, this is great, 545 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: that this is happening. It feels like obviously a step 546 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: in the right direction. I'm curious to not to, you know, 547 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: give more elaboration on this. I looked this up. When 548 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: it was first instituted in President Trump's first term, it 549 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: faced criticism even from people some big time Democrats. Former 550 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: mayor of New York City, build the Blasio, was not 551 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a huge fan. Now that it's reinstituted, are you seeing 552 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: any pushback or are you feeling any pushback? 553 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 5: Dude? 554 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Does the administration expect any pushback from libs? 555 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: Sure? Well, the administration definitely expects pushback because they did 556 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 7: it once before and they're doing it and again. And 557 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 7: I don't think that these liberal mainstream media members really 558 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 7: understand the impact and the benefits of this voice office. 559 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 7: What's interesting is that, you know, this story is so underreported, 560 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 7: And what really kind of broke my heart was the 561 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 7: Biden administration completely shuttered its doors. They and they completely 562 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 7: renamed it and overhauled the entire office in general. I mean, 563 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 7: if you are somebody that goes through a very tragic situation, 564 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 7: devastating situation, losing a level and a family member at 565 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 7: the hands of a legal alien crime, where do you 566 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 7: turn to do you just hope that you you know, 567 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 7: find some kind of therapy, you know, and just hope 568 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 7: that your insurance covers it what happens. And this was 569 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 7: another example of the Biden administration prioritizing illegal aliens over 570 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 7: American citizens, where this new office that was created under 571 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 7: the Biden administration overhauled it to where illegal aliens can 572 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 7: report being abused or mistreated in these detention centers. And 573 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 7: that's just not fair to the American people who are 574 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 7: victims of what happened when you allow for open borders. 575 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 7: So we're definitely expecting some pushback, whether it's you know, 576 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: bits and pieces, you know, when more comes out about 577 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: illegal alien crime. We could definitely expect to hear some 578 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 7: criticism but nonetheless, I think it's fantastic to institute and 579 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 7: re implement something like this given the fact that Lake 580 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 7: and Riley, you know, Jocelyn dun Bray, their families are 581 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 7: grieving every single day. So this is great that they 582 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 7: have a voice now thanks to the Voice Office. 583 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Voice Office was closed by the Biden administration 584 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: or not closed, changed to the Victims Engagement and Service 585 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: lines like like you said, that kind of is so 586 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: rod that can kind of encompass anybody who's a victim 587 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: of anything, including people who are detained by ice, who 588 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: are quote unquote victims of the law. I guess, like 589 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't. 590 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, And what's interesting is is that the reason for 591 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 13: this criticism is that the Biden administration and Democrats alike 592 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 13: didn't want to tie illegal aliens to crimes. 593 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 7: They just felt that migrant crimes just shouldn't be a thing, 594 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 7: and by tying the two together, you're just kind of 595 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 7: villainizing aliens and villainizing immigrants, and that's just not the case. 596 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 7: Per se. There are certain areas of our immigration that 597 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 7: really are just bad people coming into this country. And 598 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 7: when you've come in here illegally, expect to be you know, 599 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 7: face prosecution. That's just how the law works. 600 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really ties into the whole illegal immigrants 601 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: commit less crimes than Americans, which is just a total farce. 602 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: Is not true in any sense of the term. But 603 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, it would be kind of antithetical to 604 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: the narrative that the Biden administration is pushing. Okay, well, 605 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: if we're saying that illegals don't commit crimes, then then 606 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: we must not have an open line for them to 607 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: call if they are a victim of the crimes that 608 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: illegals don't commit. I'm yeah, right, I'm curious about this. 609 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: This was kind of interesting. I didn't have this prepared. 610 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking off the top of my head. So 611 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: sorry if we don't have any broll for it, and 612 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm throwing you off on it. The I believe it 613 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: was the Washington Post. It was one of your bigger 614 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: lefty outlets, was talking about how the arrests of fentanyl 615 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: drug busts have gone down since the Trump administration. And 616 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I kid you not, I think they blamed tariffs, not 617 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: any sort of shureing up or fortifying of the border. 618 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: It's the tariffs. So the reason that that fentanyl is down, 619 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: or fentanyl drug busts are down. Uh, you know, I 620 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: think there's so many different facets that that are compiled 621 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: into what goes through the border, whether it's illegal immigration, drugs, 622 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: just overall, you know, not American values coming into the border. 623 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess can you kind of speak to the administration's 624 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: kind of whole approach because there's so many different facets 625 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of encompassed in what this border security priority actually is. 626 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think this is the same Washington Post 627 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 7: or maybe it's another outlet that said it's a mysterious 628 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 7: decline in the amount of fentanel coming into in this country. 629 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 7: It's so mysterious. How is it going away? Well, if 630 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 7: you take a look what President Trump is doing securing 631 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 7: the border, rebuilding the border wall, adding more ice agents 632 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 7: at our southern border to make sure that nothing comes 633 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 7: in that's going to kill our own citizens coming through 634 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 7: the border, there's plenty of, you know, great initiatives taken 635 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 7: at the southern border to make sure that nothing happens. 636 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 7: And I believe that is with our ports when it 637 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 7: does come to trade and when it comes to our 638 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 7: southern border as well, because there are some ports in 639 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 7: the United States, that drugs can come right on in 640 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 7: when it comes to you know, where we're getting certain 641 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 7: commodities from different countries. Something must slip the cracks one 642 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 7: way or another. But now we are cracking down on 643 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 7: our ports, we're cracking down on our southern border and 644 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 7: our northern border too as well, because that's also an 645 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 7: unreported story. Our northern border is facing a crisis. So 646 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 7: all the steps this president is taking, I don't understand 647 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 7: where this mysterious drop in fentanyl is coming from. Joe, Bob, 648 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 7: I need this to say. It's good for us, it's 649 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 7: great for our country. 650 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I and I we'll be searching. If 651 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: we find out how the fentanyl drug rests have stopped, 652 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: we will let the viewers know immediately. This is a 653 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: this is something that we'll have to, you know, stick 654 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: on consistently. Monica pays turning points, White House correspondent. Thanks 655 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: for coming back. I appreciate you taking the time. 656 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 7: Thanks so much for having me job Bob, appreciate it. 657 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: Thank you coming out next here and turning point tonight. 658 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: It's thrown down Thursday. Everyone loves it. 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This I thought 702 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: this was this is one of the best ones I've 703 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: seen of this, and by best ones, I mean most horrifying. 704 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: If you look at it from the Holy Cow. There 705 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 1: are people among us that think this sort of thing. 706 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: This is truly a U see riverside with probably one 707 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: of the craziest thoughts that I've ever seen anyone have 708 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: watched this. 709 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 14: Did your development begin as a human? 710 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 10: I mean yes, I'm I'm a bio student. I am 711 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 10: aware of the process of damn infusion. Man, I know 712 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 10: what a zygo that that's not unqualifica. That's not a 713 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 10: moral qualifier. 714 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 14: That's when wait, hold on, So it's a human and 715 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 14: human development begins at conception. Therefore human life begins at conception. 716 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 14: When did your life become worthy of protection? 717 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 10: When I became actually conscious and able to speak, so 718 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 10: like able to speak, so like two years old? 719 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: I think I was a bit earlier than that. 720 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, No, babies usually don't speak till about year year 721 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 14: and a half. So if I murdered you at six months, 722 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 14: that's okay. Yes, And you're a bio student at U 723 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 14: see Riverside. Yes, okay, let me ask you a question, 724 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 14: would you save one hundred dogs life or one human life? 725 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 14: I would say one dog over your life, but no, 726 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 14: tell me why a human. 727 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 4: I want? 728 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 14: And we'll close with this. The fact that he's a 729 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 14: bio student at this university shows the horrifying moral rot 730 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 14: happening in higher education, and Trump should defund all these 731 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 14: schools as evidence. Thank you very much. 732 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: This is a part of the super secret conservative spot 733 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: plots to make liberals look dumb by letting them talk. 734 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. You don't even need to argue 735 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: with that. That's so crazy, that is not even worth 736 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: arguing with. Having said that, this is going to be 737 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: a first for thrownown Thursday, there's something that I disagree 738 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: with charge pretty vehemently, and well, I want you to 739 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: watch this clip and then I'll express my disagreement with 740 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Charlie on this particular issue. Charlie ran into a guy 741 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: at a restaurant somewhere in the world and he makes 742 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: a comment that I disagree with. 743 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 8: Watch this. 744 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 14: Again. 745 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: It's stirred on Thursday, and I gotta say I I 746 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: don't agree with Charlie on this one. This man was 747 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: almost the first male first Lady of the United States 748 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: of America. Calling him a beta male calling him a beta, 749 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think is accurate. I think he's 750 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: much more of like an epsilon delta at best. Beta is, sorry, Charlie, 751 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: just way too generous of a term for this evasculated 752 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: person who was randomly in the same restaurant as Charlie. 753 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know how much of 754 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: a disagreement that actually is, but I just thought. I 755 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: don't know, I thought it was funny. I love you, Charlie, 756 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: but you're wrong on this with Beta. Beta is far 757 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: too generous. You know. I'm being told I gotta remind 758 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: you again, even though again I don't necessarily want to 759 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: because it's just too good of a deal. I feel 760 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: like we're being stolen from But in honor of turning 761 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: points thirteenth birthday, one day only, you're gonna be able 762 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: to get thirteen dollars tickets to these student Action summit. Again. 763 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: It's it is, this is a this is too good 764 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: of a deal. You almost would be doing yourself a 765 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: disservice to not purchase a ticket at this price. Thank goodness, 766 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 1: Turning Point's been around for thirteen years. Happy birthday, Turning Point. 767 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: Congratulations Charlie. But this is you're you're stealing from yourself. 768 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 1: If you don't buy these tickets, you can go to 769 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: a sas twenty twenty five dot com. You can get 770 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: those tickets thirteen dollars again an honor of Turning Points 771 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: thirteenth birthday. It just it feels like it's like being 772 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: stolen from but also at the same time, if it 773 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: benefits all of you folks were able to purchase those 774 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: tickets at thirteen dollars, you know you should do it. 775 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: I want you to be happy. That's gonna do it 776 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: for us here at Turning Points. And I thanks so 777 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Charlie's gonna kind of outline, you know, 778 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: the trajectory of Turning Point over the last thirteen years 779 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: coming up next. We will be with you tomorrow, same time, 780 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: same place. 781 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 11: God bless America. 782 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 14: Thirteen years ago, I was in a car driving to Rockford, Illinois, 783 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 14: and this journey started. It is June fifth, twenty twelve. 784 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 14: I was wrestling kind of what we're going to call 785 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 14: this organization and my dad came up with a list 786 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 14: of names, and all of a sudden, he said, turning point, 787 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 14: I said, that's the one spoke at a tea party 788 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 14: rally out in Rockford, and the journey started. No money, 789 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 14: no connections, and no idea what I was doing. Started 790 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 14: the barnstorm Illinois and in the Midwest, speaking at every 791 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 14: possible tea party rally I could. That was the garage 792 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 14: that we literally started in Lamont, Illinois. I had burning 793 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 14: desire looking back at it, I wanted to grow this 794 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 14: thing more than anything imaginable. I poured every part of 795 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 14: my being into this. As Napoleon Hill would say, conceived, believe, 796 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 14: work achieved. CBWA was the daily mantra that I would have. 797 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 14: Nobody believed in us. We were considered not just me 798 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 14: an outsider. It is incomprehensible odds that we were up against. 799 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 14: Show some of these pictures in the chat guys, and 800 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 14: Bill Montgomery may he rest in peace, great man and 801 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 14: great mentor was one of the few people that was 802 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 14: a picture of Bill and I I think got a 803 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 14: lot of pictures with Bill. Unfortunately, at the Republican National 804 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 14: Convention in twenty twelve, where I basically had to smuggle 805 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 14: myself in to that convention. That's where I met the 806 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 14: great Foster Freeze, and I mean he also rest in peace, 807 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 14: where I gave him the first starewell pitch. I said, 808 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 14: will you give us some money? And he told me 809 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 14: his name in a very comical way, and he ended 810 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 14: up writing us a ten thousand dollars check, which might 811 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 14: as well have been one hundred million dollars at the time. 812 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 14: That was the startup funding to allow us to get 813 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 14: a website and for ten years straight. I made a 814 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 14: promise to myself and I kept that promise that I 815 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 14: might not be the smartest, I might not have the 816 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 14: best college education or any at all, but I will 817 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 14: outwork you. You see, when I first entered the political space, 818 00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 14: I had a misconception. I thought everybody worked hard. I 819 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 14: thought in the world, everybody had a burning desire to succeed. 820 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 14: I thought that was largely universal. Of course, that was 821 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 14: my youthful naivete. Little did I realize that most people 822 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 14: are just kind of meandering through life. As the Roau 823 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 14: would say, the massive men lead lives of quiet desperation. 824 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 14: So I realized that not everyone wanted to take Red 825 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 14: Eye flights. Not everyone wanted to do Fox News hits 826 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 14: on Thanksgiving, and not everyone wanted to do Friday night 827 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 14: radio hits. Not everyone wanted to wake up, as I 828 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 14: did over one hundred times at three am or four 829 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 14: am to go do Fox and Friends. First, people thought 830 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 14: I was nuts, but I said, I'm going to outwork you. 831 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 14: We got to make this thing happen. We got to 832 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 14: save the Republic, We got to save Western civilization. And 833 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 14: the movement grew, and our team increased, and we started 834 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 14: to meet donors, and we started to meet funders, and 835 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 14: oh my goodness, the first trial that we had were 836 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 14: other conservative organizations and libertarian organizations trying to attack us 837 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 14: because we were the new kids on the block. 838 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: Who were we? 839 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 14: What were we trying to do? The asymmetric warfare from 840 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 14: many organizations that are just you know, they pale in 841 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 14: comparison now, trying to sabotage us. We're gonna take Charlie 842 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 14: Kirk out. It wasn't the left, it wasn't the media. 843 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 14: It was other conservatives that try to take us out. 844 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 14: But boy did we persevere, and we kept our head 845 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 14: down and we kept on working with grittiness and with 846 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 14: fortitude that was one of our first events ever, go 847 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 14: Back Go Back at University of Wisconsin Madison. Three members. 848 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 14: Three people attended our event. It was three more than 849 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 14: I ever would have expected. 850 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: And I would. 851 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 14: Travel the Midwest and my votes wagon. If I could 852 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 14: speak it to ten people, I. 853 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 13: Would do it. 854 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 14: If I could speak to five people, I would do 855 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,359 Speaker 14: it everywhere imaginable. I would be just trying to get 856 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 14: the message of Turning Point USA out. And now thirteen 857 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 14: years later, hundreds of thousands of student members, thousands of 858 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 14: high school and college chapters. We have TPUSA faith, we 859 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 14: have Turning Point Action, We're chasing ballots, we have billions 860 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 14: of views online, we have four hundred thousand donors to 861 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 14: Turning Point USA. Relationship with the President of United States 862 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 14: played a role in this massive movement. And let's be honest, 863 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 14: President Trump, our increase would never been possible. We would 864 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 14: have been big, we would not be where we are today. 865 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 14: And Don Junior deserves credit and Jade Van deserves credit 866 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 14: President Trump. And now here we are today, we are 867 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 14: the biggest conservative organization period, not just young, but the 868 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 14: biggest conservative organization, and no one really comes even close. 869 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 14: The media has trouble even saying that they think we're 870 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 14: just a youth organization. We're actually much bigger. And I 871 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 14: say that with a great deal of heaviness and humility 872 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 14: and weight, because with great, great privilege comes phenomenal responsibility. 873 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 14: Now we are thirteen years old. We are a teenager 874 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 14: defying all the odds and only made possible thanks to 875 00:47:43,440 --> 00:48:00,760 Speaker 14: God Almighty, blessing us every step of the way. Eight