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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel

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Speaker 1: just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, written by

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Speaker 1: yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy.

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now, let's get to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, y'all to another episode of Selective Ignorance. It's

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Speaker 1: your girl, Mandy B. And this is the place where

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Speaker 1: sometimes the ignorance is selective and sometimes it's just good

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Speaker 1: self care. Y'all know, I like to lean into my

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Speaker 1: ignorance just a little, but today we're talking about y'all's

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Speaker 1: ignorance and your inability to talk about opinions, not form them.

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Speaker 1: If y'all think this is gonna be like the episode

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Speaker 1: I had with Ishan Barry, you are highly mistaken. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the fact that everyone has opinions,

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Speaker 1: kind of like we all have arms and legs, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about y'all's ability to critique opinions on something else.

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Speaker 1: So let's be honest. Somewhere along the way, the word

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Speaker 1: critique that's what we're talking about, retired and got replaced

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Speaker 1: with hater. Don't like a movie, You a hater? Thought

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Speaker 1: the album could have been mixed better. Hater say the

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Speaker 1: choreography was mid Hater say the show inded terribly hater.

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Speaker 1: I like the Internet, but it turned the word that

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Speaker 1: you used to mean something like someone had a rational

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Speaker 1: malice into anyone who disagrees with me is a hater. Now,

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Speaker 1: art is supposed to be subjective, right, that's the whole deal.

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Speaker 1: What speaks to me might not speak to you, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine. That's the point. The second you put into words,

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Speaker 1: suddenly that you're not sharing your taste, You're tearing down

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Speaker 1: someone's dreams. Apparently, the line between critique and hate is

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Speaker 1: about as thin as the Wi Fi and some of

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Speaker 1: y'all's basements, because yes, I know some of y'all to

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Speaker 1: live with ya mama, y'all be the ones coming to

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Speaker 1: me on the internet. But here's the kicker though, But

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Speaker 1: for most people, even form their own opinions, they run

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Speaker 1: to check the group chat, the trending hashtags, rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic,

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Speaker 1: how even TikTok reviewers with ring lights. It's like nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to be the first to say, yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 1: like it and here's why. And then we've got to

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Speaker 1: be real, especially when it comes to black art. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a there. Why is it that we hold

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Speaker 1: our own to an Olympic standard of excellence? If a

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Speaker 1: film like Him isn't perfect, if a new hip hop

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Speaker 1: album like Cardi B's isn't, you know, reinventing a will

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Speaker 1: that y'all thought she would do, Suddenly we're not just critics,

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Speaker 1: we're traders. We're haters. And that's wild because if we

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Speaker 1: can't be honest about our own culture, then who exactly

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Speaker 1: are are we protecting? So today we're digging it in

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Speaker 1: and I am gonna go ahead and give a spoiler alert.

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Speaker 1: Now we are talking him, We are talking the new

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Speaker 1: Denzel and Spike Lee joint and more. So we'll let

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Speaker 1: you guys know right before we get to all of

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Speaker 1: the things, if you want to press fifteen fifty eleven

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Speaker 1: times while we give our critique and our insight. But

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Speaker 1: are going to give our honest and open critique. And

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Speaker 1: guess what if we don't align with you, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: make us some motherfucking haters. Okay, And as always I

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Speaker 1: am joined by my superpreduceas we got a king and

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Speaker 1: journalism Jason. Hey, guys, journalisto aka aka body quot are

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Speaker 1: your body quote? Is that what it is? Because because

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Speaker 2: How that one word?

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Speaker 1: Wait, men are called but equal two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not body It's it's just it's just one.

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Speaker 2: It's just you know, it's an Island reference.

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Speaker 1: So I ain't gonna hold you. That was like the

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Speaker 1: most difficult thing with me learning Spanish. Mind you. I

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Speaker 1: then I think theyve them them whatever. Bro, that ship was.

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Speaker 2: Annoying, translating.

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Speaker 4: From the street level, not necessarily not necessarily the negative ship.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, if you hear, if you're in the

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Speaker 1: Well, no, that was the problem.

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Speaker 2: You should watch your favorite movie and just put Spanish

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Speaker 1: I thought you were you better than that.

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Speaker 2: If I want to read, I'm saying I'm not reading

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Speaker 2: for the people. You know, if you want to get

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Speaker 2: ready for Bad Bunny, you could do it that way.

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Speaker 2: Or did you did you see that? The I g

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Speaker 2: with that dude was like the hustle of it all

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Speaker 2: is that the new AirPods have live translation enough, so

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Speaker 2: Apple booked Bad Bunny specifically so people could get the

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you because there was a there

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Speaker 1: was a woman today that played a Bad Bunny record. Actually,

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Speaker 1: So anyways, this uh, this clip literally says and I

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Speaker 1: So apparently this Bad Bunny record, though, goes into talking

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Speaker 1: about like he says, black lives matter. He says rip

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Speaker 1: to Kobe. He says, this country is interesting because I

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Speaker 1: and the president don't got nothing to say about it.

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Speaker 1: And he's like it's crazy because when a white person

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Speaker 1: But when a black man has a gun, he's a criminal.

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Speaker 1: This is what the fuck bad Bunny talking about.

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Speaker 1: So to know that we had like the political nature

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Speaker 2: He's perto Rican Bob Marley.

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Speaker 1: Puerto Rican Bob Marley is crazy.

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Speaker 2: If people listen to I'm journalism, Jason. I have a newsletter.

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Speaker 2: It's called Backseat Freestyle and if you look, yep, I

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Speaker 2: did a post called bad Bunny, went on one for

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Speaker 2: Why he's a little bit Chance the Rapper, while he's

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Speaker 2: and ultimately he's he's he's Bob Marley. And the crazy

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Speaker 2: thing he didn't he didn't start out that way. When

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Speaker 2: he started out in twenty sixteen, it was like I'm

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Speaker 2: a fuck your girl, I'm gonna take your girl.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, like they just showed and he said twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: They just I just saw a post on Twitter that

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Speaker 1: from the like it like that that nigga had a

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Speaker 2: He looked like he looked like he was from the Bronx.

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Speaker 2: He was, he was. Here's a song on the new

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Speaker 1: Really well, he was influenced by the Bronx early boy

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Speaker 1: because I was like, he looked like he's from Puerto

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Speaker 2: Know album he's every album has a different theme.

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Speaker 1: I love that he's giving the Puerto Rican Dutch a cat.

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Speaker 3: He's very he's very culturally.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that Now I'm I'm even

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Speaker 1: like more excited now to realize that he's just not

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Speaker 2: Just like he's still a hole. He still yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 2: maybe everybody learned Spanish.

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Speaker 1: How did you learn Spanish?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I learned it essentially from the movie Sallenas.

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Speaker 1: a little bit on me. I'm really really excited about

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Speaker 1: I like to say Q four, y'all would think I

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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean just the space in itself. We

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Speaker 2: But the people that we see across.

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Speaker 1: The community, now, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because entering Q four. I actually just

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Speaker 1: told my therapist it feels so weird. Like normally October, October, October, November,

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Speaker 1: every time I reach this time the year, I'm burnt out.

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Speaker 1: get to focus on all of my my individual ventures.

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Speaker 1: So this year has been leading into twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: This year for anyone who has been living under a

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Speaker 1: My focus was becoming a New York Times bestseller with

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Speaker 1: my book No Holds Bar to do them in by

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Speaker 1: so say, you know, exploration and power and did and

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Speaker 1: selling a book, selling anything tangible is freaking hardest shit.

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Speaker 1: But we had a lot of teams, a lot of

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Speaker 1: let down, including Charlamagne. Shout out to Charlamage God. So

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Speaker 1: now that the book is over, mind y'all. I also

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Speaker 1: I haven't really got to talk about a year.

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Speaker 3: Bring it back. We're so far beyond you know what.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, soldier all on because cinnamon. It was a spoonful.

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Speaker 1: That was wild. That was wild. Anyways, y'all already know.

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Speaker 1: at myself and be like that ain't me. I ain't

434
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Speaker 1: say that.

435
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Speaker 2: I got to get into it. A couple of early

436
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Speaker 2: episodes we had.

437
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Speaker 1: That no no, no, not of this podcast, not of this.

438
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Speaker 2: It was early, but it wasn't video. It would be

439
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: like tweets, old tweets.

440
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Speaker 1: I got old tweets. Oh nah you? Oh wait? Did

441
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Speaker 1: you not know what I had to do?

442
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 2: Are you ready to scrub MTV.

443
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Seven pages of my Twitter? You guys can't probably find ship.

444
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: Although I just recently had to go back private for

445
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: more Diana that yeah, I'm private now and then it's

446
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: crazy because someone tried to come after me because so

447
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: I watched porn on Twitter and somebody wrote me it

448
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 1: was like, damn, why every porn bisexual man? I go on,

449
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: Mandy's already following it, and to do that on your

450
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: professional page? I said, bitch, this is my personal page.

451
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: I ain't got no professional page on Twitter. This is

452
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Speaker 1: why it's private. Now literally say bitch such.

453
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Speaker 2: On no Charlamagne was he did an interview with Business

454
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Speaker 2: Insider and he said that brand safety has become a

455
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Speaker 2: problem and advertisers should rethink it. And I feel like

456
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: it's like because it's like if people are approaching you,

457
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: they know who you are, they know what your content is,

458
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 2: they want your audience, and so it's like, why am

459
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: I scrubbing that? Like this is the thing that got

460
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: you this audience that you want, and now you want

461
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: me to like.

462
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it is t It is tricky, right because

463
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: a part of me kind of does understand, right the

464
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: same way if you agree to work for a corporation,

465
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: that corporation you now have to somewhat align with their mission,

466
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: core values all that, or.

467
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 2: If you're an right, if you're coming at you.

468
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're essentially coming at me. Even an independent

469
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: contractor could be considered an employee to some sense, like Nigga,

470
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to cut you a check.

471
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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't talk to somebody that still says

472
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: Q four all the time.

473
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Speaker 3: It's probably freedom.

474
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: Some of this is probably because of the political nature

475
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 4: that we're in, and that's like the new dosing is

476
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 4: finding out from that trait. O. This is this person

477
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 4: said this and there on these platforms, Right, I.

478
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: Gonna hold you and we're gonna We're actually pulling a

479
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: clip of me talking about Carti's new album on Need

480
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: to Know. But I just actually had this conversation with

481
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Speaker 1: with one of the members on Black Effects Team because

482
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: maybe the way they becoming a decisions decisions. But the

483
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: clip of Carti B on Car Daddy going around talking

484
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: about eaters, I said, Oh, so the brands don't mind

485
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: Cardi B talking about like I'm old because want the audience,

486
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: the audience selectively. All Right, play this clip. I'm sure

487
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna align with what I had to say.

488
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Speaker 5: He avoided this sophomore slump in a way that no

489
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 5: other artists can. Now that I've heard the entire project.

490
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm happy that she took this long.

491
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: No, I'll never say that wait.

492
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: As much of a masterpiece as this is, I hated

493
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: that we waited so late. I wish we got to

494
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the summer with somebody. Sure.

495
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Speaker 5: This album absolutely proved to me that it wasn't a

496
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 5: fluke and that she's an album artist.

497
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Speaker 3: I'm Cardi B. Both albums were platinum.

498
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: I've fulfilled my quarter for you guys for at least

499
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 5: the next few years. Now, you guys was okay with

500
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 5: me having no music out since twenty eighteen.

501
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: I never said I wanted to be jay Z the greatest.

502
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad that the album is being received as well

503
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: as it is to really know that she was the

504
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: underdog here because of the sophomore album Curse. I love

505
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: that she came out on top. I love the project.

506
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Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear more.

507
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 5: Let's see how it ages a few weeks months years

508
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 5: from now, when she starts performing more.

509
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I hated it you had to wait.

510
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Hated that I had to wait. And it's not even

511
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Speaker 1: that I had to wait the seven years as much

512
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: as even we were she announced last year, and I

513
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: think even the year before that an album was coming.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they even dropped the other single with a Megan

515
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Yes that was kind.

516
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Speaker 1: Of Nubongo's, which was crazy because whether it was the label,

517
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: whether it was Cardi, I do not know. She had

518
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: to have hated that record. So that fuck Atlantic at

519
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: this point because hey, well, and I say fucking because

520
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: if you look at her pure sales and I'm gonna say.

521
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: Now, I know, but that's her industry though.

522
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: For her to have seventy five thousand or eighty thousand

523
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: pure sales the next week, mind you, a lot of

524
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Speaker 1: people were adding Atlantic over the like past the first

525
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: week saying that my I just got it late. So

526
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: that has everything to do with with distribution.

527
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Speaker 4: Also that these metrics that's being defined of how these

528
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 4: are equivalent to an album a pure album sale, I

529
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 4: think we got to re examine that.

530
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Speaker 3: It's not math.

531
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: It's not math, I mean, and let's be very clear,

532
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: we got to go back to physical cos well, well

533
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I thought I bought I have

534
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: two vinyls from Cardie. I did get mine the first week,

535
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 1: but there were people that didn't. Here's here's my.

536
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: Thing, and I'm not gonna lean to the count for sales.

537
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: No, they did. They did. Yeah, but I'm not gonna

538
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: but they didn't count first week.

539
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: They still count first week.

540
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Speaker 1: They were saying they didn't count first week.

541
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: Because they count shipping. They count for shipped.

542
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. They weren't shipped until

543
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: the second week, so they weren't counted in the first

544
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: week sales, which of course is.

545
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: Got to change how we look at certifications.

546
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We we we we we. I'm

547
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: not French, we really don't give a fuck about them

548
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: goddamn numbers. I don't care about where an artists lands.

549
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: I just want good quality music.

550
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: And so for me, I love you to find the

551
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: week because there's a lot of chatter.

552
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: Well the chatter, you know, it's quality of the music

553
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 4: by the sales, which is not accurate, but they do

554
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: look at that it's not.

555
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is as a consumer, when I

556
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: say we as a consumer, we really don't care.

557
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: Consumers don't care.

558
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, these fake podcasters that want

559
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: to lean into the outrage of what Billboard and all

560
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: this ship means we don't care. As consumers.

561
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: We want good quality musics.

562
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: That's it.

563
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 3: That's it.

564
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to sit here and and even

565
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: dive into the numbers. When I say that I wanted

566
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: this album earlier is because even every time, uh the

567
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: the checks clearing record, there's some really good records here

568
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: that go off in the motherfucking summer, Like day Parties

569
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: is over, Whiskey Mistress ain't hitting like it used to.

570
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: It's just a different It's it's just a different I mean,

571
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: it's it's fall time. And speaking of fall, if we

572
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: talk about my impatient ass, I don't like to wait

573
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: in line, and I'm mad that I've been waiting for

574
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: the fall off now for about two three years. Like

575
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: J cole like and I love J Cole. I stand Jacole,

576
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: I am a stand. I've gone to every Dreamville, I've

577
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: gone to office, every conser. I left Nigga back in

578
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, I think it was I left

579
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: Memorial Day weekend in Vegas to fly to New York

580
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: to see literally Elliott Wilson sit down with his Crown

581
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: series and talk to J Cole. I am a J

582
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: cole stan baby.

583
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: Right.

584
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: The fact that everyone still wants to keep talking about you,

585
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: like falling out of his beef and and you know,

586
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: renigging on on the on all that. Just drop. Goddamn.

587
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the fall off. Excuse me, Maybe it's not.

588
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: Maybe it's not a maybe it's not a maybe he's

589
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: not a product.

590
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm not wrong.

591
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: He's just like, I'm done with this.

592
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: Are you saying fell out?

593
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying he fell off. Maybe I said.

594
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 4: Maybe he's just like, I'm done. This is my exit.

595
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm quiet exit.

596
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: That wasn't a quiet exit.

597
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: He was dragged for a year.

598
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: He did the dream Look look how you received with

599
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: the last Dreamville Festival.

600
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: It's half white side is Irish?

601
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: I need to know?

602
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, are you I'm saying that I can see a possibility.

603
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: It's probably wrong, but I could see something where he's like, man,

604
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: whatever is it? But on the other side, I think

605
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: we'll get something from j Cole in twenty twenty six.

606
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't think we don't get anything.

607
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: You don't think by the end of the year we'll

608
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: get it.

609
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: I don't think it's time. Make me.

610
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Why, especially when we see what Kendrick is doing and

611
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: has done for the last year and a half since

612
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: not like us, and we see that. Drake said, all y'all,

613
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in Europe for the rest of

614
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: my life. Drake and you Americans that my passport is elsewhere.

615
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm global.

616
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Fuck you Americans.

617
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: If you have Kendrick doing what Kendrick is doing, Drake

618
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: doing what Drake's doing, why why would not do anything

619
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: right now?

620
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: Cole has to be a tactician with this. He has

621
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: to study that ship because he knows that his promise

622
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 4: is still there. Right we're talking about the Big Three

623
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 4: that's still there, especially in the height of the beef,

624
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: the a lot explaining. He has to do a lot

625
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 4: of where he's at right now that.

626
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: People are curious about.

627
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: I think the best way he could do that is

628
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: clean slate, New Year.

629
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie if if the ball off comes,

630
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I do not want him whatsoever to address or explain

631
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: himself and stepping away from a beef here late to address.

632
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: It, you know, but just just just looking at who

633
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: he is and the type of music he make, you

634
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 2: don't think he'll do like an earnest kind of like

635
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: recognition the first intro or the outro.

636
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Just now, I'm not gonna lie. He might start an intro.

637
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: Out and and it won't be a disrespectful thing. Is

638
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 4: him does because I think when people losing this whole thing,

639
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: we go back to the block era, right, Him and

640
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: Kendrick had a relationship. We still don't know why that

641
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: sour or I think the competitive thing kind of like

642
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: it's kind of liken J didn't have the beef, but

643
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: they were still working and then like it was the

644
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 4: album together they did.

645
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: The album came out and.

646
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: Drake had a had a very strong relationship. He was

647
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: just on.

648
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: He just went on.

649
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: No, I think you know they've been fucking with each

650
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: other since blog eras he's still with him. Yes, he

651
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: also just what last year? Top of last year was

652
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: on tour with Drake. I went to the concert in Tampa.

653
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: So Drake did a stint where he did hop of

654
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: a tour with him in twenty one seventh. Then he

655
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Speaker 1: took a break, came back on that same tour.

656
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Speaker 2: And did that called pre Yeah, that was pretty right,

657
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: but even it's funny. It's I feel like this is

658
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: like I keep saying, like resume stuff, but like so

659
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: I did NAS's podcast when was that Spotify yo, Like

660
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: you know, like Nas would and I don't know how

661
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: public he said this, but it's not nothing that's like

662
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: super hidden. But you know, he was like, you you

663
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: get successful, and then it gets hard to communicate, and

664
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Speaker 2: he's like, you know, there was times when like like

665
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: when Jay did Jay Z and Friends, when r Kelly

666
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: the r Kelly situation happened and everybody went to Madison Square.

667
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Nas is like, yo, I got the call and I

668
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: was about to go, but he was like, I don't

669
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: know how like Square, Me and Jay were so like,

670
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 2: I didn't go, and then he said there was other

671
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: opportunities where he's like, I don't I don't know what

672
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: he's thinking, but I'm okay. And so they just lost

673
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: years of like I mean.

674
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Speaker 1: Not only that because he got that casino, but he

675
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: didn't Wow, that was.

676
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: The council.

677
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: But that's but that's another point. It's like it's like

678
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: stuff that circles happens, and then you're like should I

679
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 2: I don't know what he thinks, and and then it's

680
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: like you're not You're not like in the streets every

681
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: day like it used to be. So it's like we're

682
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: not like collaborating all the time. So then it gets

683
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: weird communication. So I think that's what the Cole and

684
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: Kendrick and.

685
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: Now Jay and Os is cool. They do but they

686
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: do stuff.

687
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: You know, it's not a lot, but they have a

688
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: good relationship where we don't know, but we do know

689
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 4: enough that there's relationships between both crews that there's some

690
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: dialogue that might have been happening.

691
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Speaker 1: Well, I guess all in all, is there? Am I

692
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: right for saying I don't want to wait on certain projects?

693
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: Look, I mean I.

694
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Speaker 2: Have a comment. I have a question about Okay, I

695
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: think I don't think Cole is gonna come out simply

696
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: because he's gonna let Drake have his window and I

697
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: don't think he had. I think Cole is like, I

698
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: don't want to come out with an album when Drake's

699
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: come out.

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Speaker 1: Man to come out the same time as man give

701
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: us the same drop as I think.

702
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: I think he's waiting. But this is a second part podcast,

703
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: do you so?

704
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I listened to it. It was great, It was great,

705
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: It was it was really good.

706
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: So you said you didn't like waiting for Cardi. Now

707
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: you're getting impatient with Cold And we mentioned a comment

708
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 2: about numbers, So I want to ask just talking about

709
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: like haters and judging and review and kind of like

710
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: taking it back to like the topic with with I

711
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: think some people judge albums based off of sales, like

712
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: A King said, and but I also think some people

713
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: will judge a Cardi album and be like, I had

714
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: to wait seven years for this. It wasn't good, it

715
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: wasn't as good as the weight, it wasn't worth the weight,

716
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: and then and then excuse how the how they're talking

717
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: about the album there has nothing to do with the album.

718
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,479
Speaker 2: They're just throwing in the weight. I didn't I didn't

719
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: like waiting, I didn't like this, I didn't like this.

720
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: She included WOP on it, so the album is west.

721
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: See, I mean I didn't. I didn't mind any of

722
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, Like that's the thing, you know, I'm

723
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: seeing it because these fuck ass people act like their

724
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: motherfucking execs and A and rs because they didn't followed

725
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: exacs and A and rs since two thousand and nine

726
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Now they think that they know industry inside

727
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: like shit, And I think that that's why that's my

728
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: frustration about like leading into the numbers and pure cells

729
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: and all the ship. Bitch, I'm a consumer. I've never

730
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: been an artist. I don't get into the.

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Speaker 6: Whole process, the fact that people are like, let me

732
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: look at the credits and see how many writers on here.

733
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Bro knock it bro.

734
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying. We're just in. It's weird

735
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: because we are going to be dissecting this where I

736
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: do think we are in now, we're in a space

737
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: of hate. People genuinely, I think, like to be haters.

738
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 3: They do internally.

739
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Niggas love to be haters. Motherfuckers love to see somebody miserable, fall,

740
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: be humbled. We're in an era where people are so

741
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: miserable with their own accolades and what they've been able

742
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: to accomplish that they cannot wait to see someone fail

743
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: or falter or be unhappy. That's just the truth.

744
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 3: We don't celebrate, n't and and that's my thing.

745
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: Like for anyone who's just a fan of Cardi, I

746
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: don't know why. There was just so It's almost like

747
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: people were waiting to hate it, and then I think

748
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the fact that it actually was quality, people were like, Okay,

749
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: she gave us some good music. We happy. But then

750
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: it's weird because then I'm like, people are like, we

751
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: ain't need twenty three records. We could have done just twelve.

752
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, but then when people give us twelve, they're like.

753
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: I said, this is like an EP.

754
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: This isn't really an album because who's my boom? When

755
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 6: Chris put up the album and had one hundred, So.

756
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: Give me give me fifty every time out of you jump,

757
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: give me fifty, baby, MP, give me fifty.

758
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: But I'm like, he's so dope, like, don't give him everything.

759
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: He's always And the fact that if you guys look

760
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: into I really like to say, I'm the one that

761
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: you know brought it up, this is no longer available

762
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: to you because I said, I don't see the thing is.

763
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: But uh, the record that went viral under the influence

764
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: was a B side record from an album from like

765
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: three years ago. It wasn't even a throwaway because I

766
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: thought it was. I brought it up that it was

767
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: like my favorite record and it doesn't get enough love.

768
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: Like me and me and Bridget used to bring up

769
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: a lot of dope records that we liked, especially from

770
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: R and B artists, and I was like, this is

771
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: my favorite, one of my favorite and the next thing

772
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: you know, it blew the fuck up and So that's

773
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm not mad at that with

774
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: with with Chris, because that's what we're seeing with a

775
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: lot of artists. They're getting songs blow up from back then.

776
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: Do you know the Dochi record that uses the sample

777
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: that leads into therapy? That was that was on like

778
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: a mixtape of hers and it and it blew up.

779
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: So I'm not mad at how to get back to

780
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: timeless music.

781
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying.

782
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: We got to give ship.

783
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: You don't want to give time. They just want to.

784
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: We waited seven years for Cardi, right, yep, why we

785
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: can't Lauren Hill? We still wait. And I'm not saying

786
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: that in bad ways, And that's how great artist is.

787
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Wait, you think we're getting one from Laurena?

788
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I know. I think at this point

789
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 4: you just got to leave it there. I don't want

790
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: to that's the legacy. And then the studio, the live

791
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: and studio stuff is cool too. Those are like I

792
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 4: really like that and that Ship, but I think that's

793
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 4: the legacy.

794
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 3: Like, Yo, she's so dope. She gave us one.

795
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, one was the album of the year.

796
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 3: That's it? Like what else are you want from I don't.

797
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: She's solidified.

798
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: And what are you gonna say about know it alls

799
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: you were saying.

800
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 3: I say, we know. Everybody's fucking chiming.

801
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: We're just timing onto anything without any expertise on the

802
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: topic anything. And that's what the that's what these social

803
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 4: media platforms allow. There's no there's no rhyme or reason

804
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 4: that everybody just go. And that's I think that's what

805
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: induces the hate it induces.

806
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: But even me and and we're.

807
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: Gonna get accessibility. Like you if you say good morning,

808
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: you what about it?

809
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: If you say good morning, what's the chances that somebody

810
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: gonna say some wild ship to you?

811
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean I think that. I mean it's crazy, like.

812
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: They'll bring you have some dumb shit from.

813
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: But that's where my mind was, to be honest with you,

814
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: there's people who hate me as a podcaster. There's people

815
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: who hate some of the content I put out. I mean,

816
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: especially when my content reaches other audiences. Oh, they fucking

817
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: hate what we're talking about, you know. And it's interesting

818
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: because I've learned how to just accept it. But even

819
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: I perceive these episodes to be art. Right if someone

820
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: listens in and it's like, yeah, I fucking hated this

821
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: goddamn episode. I honestly I accept it. Not everyone's gonna

822
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: like everything. It's funny because when I record episodes, there'll

823
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: be episodes that I fucking love. I was like, oh,

824
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: we guilty, and it might not get the same response

825
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: from people than what I feel it. So I feel

826
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: like I can align with not only just artists, but

827
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: there's directors, there's producers, anyone who creates something and puts

828
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: it out to the world. To be critique, you have

829
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: to just know, you have to be realistic in the

830
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: fact that it's not going to be for everybody. It's

831
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: just not. But I do feel like we and when

832
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: I say it's black people, our culture lean into really

833
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: wanting to just hate everything, and I hate that for us,

834
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: I really do. I do because we don't critique other

835
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: films and white art the same. We don't critique I mean,

836
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: we'll say that, you know, that's white people shit, and

837
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: their critique doesn't hold as much weight. But with our

838
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: own people, we definitely do critique it in a way

839
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I don't know what y'all wanted or

840
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: what you expected, or why there's like an unrealistic goal

841
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: post set for this person. I just don't. So I

842
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: want to get into spoiler alert for anyone who hasn't

843
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: seen these movies that we're about to talk about.

844
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: You enough time to watch these, You had enough time.

845
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: You had enough time. We're going to get into him,

846
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: and we're going to get into highest to lowest because

847
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: I have and this is why I like it. So

848
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I have opposite I think perspectives of the two than

849
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: what the majority has. So I went into both of

850
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: them hating all the critiques, and I was like, you

851
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: know what, I'm going to watch this and have my

852
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: for my own opinion. Now which one do we want

853
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: to start with?

854
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: Jason? Well, I was gonna say we should start with

855
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: him because although you know this kind of you know,

856
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: we're just talking about like general kind of like group

857
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: consumption and reaction to stuff in general. But the idea

858
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: for this popped up a while ago when Marlon Wayne's

859
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: responded to critics when he did that post on Instagram,

860
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: and he said, I respect their work, but then he

861
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: talked about how some movies that are classics that aren't

862
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: critically received well, and he talked about like White Chicks

863
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: and some of the other stuff, So I think we

864
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: should stick in Him at first.

865
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: So we'll start with him. Him is a film startling

866
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: starring Marlon Wayne's and Tyreek Withers written Tomatoes, which again

867
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: to me, this is like Billboard. I don't give a

868
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: fuck with Rotten Tomatoes ever gives a movie. But they

869
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: rated it a thirty one percent, which is very low

870
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: because it's out of one hundred y'all. Now, the critiques

871
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: have been not so great about it. My personal thoughts.

872
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: By the way, have y'all seen the film.

873
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: I haven't seen Him.

874
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: You saw it, okay, So give me any pushbacks, especially

875
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: if you disagree with me, Jason, and we'll talk about

876
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: our critique there.

877
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: I liked it or not?

878
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it, okay, did you like it or not?

879
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 2: I liked it. I thought he was good.

880
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: I thought Him was good, especially because I like so.

881
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: I guess it depends what you're going into, right. I

882
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: do think that they misquoted the genre for the film.

883
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I think they put it as a horror. I get

884
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: that it could be a horror because of the amount

885
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: of blood that wasn't it So it was gory. It

886
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: was gory, but for me, it actually wasn't far off

887
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: from a get Out. It also reminded me a lot

888
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: of the many symbolisms and tones that was given an inception,

889
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: which I loved, So I like, to me, thriller. I

890
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: think it's a thriller.

891
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: So get Out not a horror film to you.

892
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Get Out is not a horror film to me, Like,

893
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: and we're supposed to be scared of white people? Yeah,

894
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean I think, like that's what I'm saying.

895
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: Also, it's like get Out and him are like Jordan

896
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: Peel and He's.

897
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: And then they have what us and them. I've seen

898
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: all of the joys trying.

899
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: To be like subversive about the idea of horror. I

900
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: think it's not that we're afraid of white people. I

901
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 2: think it's telling white people like y'all are scary, and

902
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: so we're making y'all this character in these movies.

903
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: Which I get. And so what I loved about where

904
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: if you take your fucking dick out of your ass

905
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: while you're watching this film, you'll be able to understand

906
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: the symbolisms that I picked up at because while I

907
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: was watching it, I was like, Oh, this is fucking brilliant,

908
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: the messages underneath. But I loved that they leaned into

909
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: the fact that some people will do whatever it takes

910
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: for their goals and dreams. So you had that portion

911
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: of it. Then I love seeing football football in the

912
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: place of this somewhat cult in terms of a we

913
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: know how Americans see this as the best sport in

914
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: the world, even though fucking FIFA and soccer really is.

915
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Americans are like, yeah, nah, fucked that football is it?

916
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: That is the American sport?

917
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: You don't watch football?

918
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: Who I'm talking about? Yes, that's why I said FIFA nigga,

919
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't do that football shit. But for America, football

920
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: is maybe it's to the point where you already know

921
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: all the red Pill podcasts are like, all right, ladies,

922
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: get in the kitchen, we don't want to see you

923
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: on Sundays. It's football days. Like men get a whole

924
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: day where they don't have to be father's, husband's boyfriends. Literally,

925
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: America has set it up to where men just get

926
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: to have their own day for once a week for

927
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: about what is it, twelve weeks longer than that, right,

928
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: because there's preseason and which.

929
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 4: I think the other side of the corn like us,

930
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 4: like the Black and Puerto Ricans and the Latinos.

931
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: I think we multitask, we're not going.

932
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: No, that day is for everyone, And then I think

933
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: what else I really enjoyed about it as well was

934
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: kind of the It reminds me of what I've talked

935
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: about in terms of I don't want to say gatekeepers,

936
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: but seeing how Marlon Wayne's character put the same no

937
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: matter how difficult it made his life. He had initially

938
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: put the same things onto Tyreek's character. Yeah, you know

939
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like, we all have this

940
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: mindset of when we get to this power, we're gonna

941
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: do things so much differently. I think, to dumb it down,

942
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: it would be the same way as if you get

943
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: a promotion at a certain company and you're like, oh,

944
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: I hated how they ran things, and then you end

945
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: up in the system, or the same way if you

946
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: become a parent. You think you're going to navigate being

947
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: a parent differently, but then you end up in the

948
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: system of what's the right way to do it or

949
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: what's just the way they've done it forever. And so

950
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: it was just I thought it was great. I don't

951
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: like blood, so I didn't like seeing all the blood,

952
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: but I thought the graphics were great. I I really

953
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I enjoyed it for what it was, and

954
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: I just think that.

955
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: Maybe I enjoyed it for what it was.

956
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: I think people went in maybe wanting to be scared.

957
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: There's too much symbolism in thought going behind a scene

958
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,959
Speaker 1: or a meaning that they're not trying to jump scare

959
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: you ass, They're trying to show like a deeper meaning.

960
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. What were your what were your takeaway thoughts?

961
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: And there was a clip I actually wanted to share

962
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: from Tyreek. I thought I sent it to you, but

963
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: I see you have a tore clip in here.

964
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna do a clip off somebody who

965
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: didn't like it.

966
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Let me let me see what this motherfucker had to say,

967
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: because there's a toy to write. Don't be like we

968
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: gotta add tore up on here, but to write it.

969
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Just don't be liking it like nothing, all right, he

970
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: had to say.

971
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 2: He said exactly.

972
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 7: I realized him with some bullshit, but I got that.

973
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 7: It's felt like a weird, long episode of Atlanta, not

974
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 7: a movie. Respect the effort to combine the vibe of

975
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 7: football and the desire to do anything to be the

976
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 7: greatest and the tropes of horror movies.

977
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: But this ship just ain't it that way, That's all

978
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: he said. I think that's do you want to know what?

979
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: Do you want to know? I would have loved to

980
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: see him go on because it just sounded like he

981
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to hate it. I'll be honest with you too,

982
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: but I.

983
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 2: Think he's saying what you're saying, but just the opposite.

984
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: Coint.

985
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: But for what it was like, you're you have grace

986
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 2: for what it was.

987
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: But can I say how crazy it is? For all

988
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: of the praise we've given Atlanta? Why is it now

989
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: bad for a movie to be along along episode of Atlanta?

990
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: But I think that is I think answering that is,

991
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: you have to be able to like it for what

992
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: it was like. I did enjoy it, but I didn't

993
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 2: think the execution was top notch.

994
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what?

995
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what?

996
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: Why? I also think he said that because low Hanging

997
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Fruit so Tyreek Weiers was actually the person in the

998
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: Atlanta episode the dealt with biracial.

999
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 2: Like really good episode, one of my favoritepisodes.

1000
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: One of my favorite episodes too.

1001
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 2: Oh it was great and I thought Atlanta is brilliant,

1002
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: Like I didn't think Atlanta was just brilliant.

1003
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: And but why it was so brilliant was because it

1004
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: challenged the way we view things. So that's why I said,

1005
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: for them to challenge him existing as a biracial man

1006
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and whatever that looked like him him having this dreaming

1007
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: goal and these expectations to live up to. Otherwise he'd

1008
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: let his whole thing down because he literally said, bro,

1009
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: I lived my whole life for this. I have to

1010
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: give everything to it. And then to also draw in football,

1011
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: we've never seen anytime we see sports right in film

1012
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: and movie. It's mostly either a true story or it's

1013
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: just the setting of the film, but it dives into like,

1014
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, gambling, it dies into fucking someone or

1015
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the ones recently are dealing

1016
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: with steroids death. You have magazine something with with Jonathan

1017
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: major Is. You have the new movie coming out and

1018
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's out yet, but I want

1019
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: to see it. Of the brothers that were all in

1020
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: wrestling but they all started committing suicide, Yeah, that one,

1021
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: I think. Is that out yet?

1022
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: I don't think it's out, but I remember reading that story.

1023
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: I want to see it. Yeah, there's a story. So

1024
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: when we think of even sports films, a lot of

1025
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: them are either based around the greatness of a sports

1026
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: organization or a real life story. So I love that

1027
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: they tried something new again.

1028
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: I like The Temp and I think it's a decent movie.

1029
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: I think it's just not as smart and as funny

1030
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: as Atlanta and so I could see that portion of it.

1031
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: But it wasn't a comedy I know. But again it's

1032
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Jordan Peele and his horrors have a lot of dark

1033
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: humor to them, and I just think some I think

1034
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: some things were like the wife is like an influencer

1035
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: and then she's like some like selling like the Jade Egg.

1036
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: Like some of it it's just like bad execution, the

1037
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: so heavy handed about like his father and like Black Fathers.

1038
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: Like it just seemed a little bit I don't say,

1039
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: like not Rush, but like you know, they just didn't

1040
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: hit everything well and in terms of like all right,

1041
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 2: this is the plot point for this to connect that one.

1042
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: Like I thought Marlon was great. Jason, what was Jason?

1043
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: What was the last movie that hit every mark for you?

1044
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think that. I don't think any movies

1045
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: are like perfect, you know what I mean? And again

1046
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying this. I liked him, I enjoyed him. I

1047
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 2: give it super positive remarks like a yo, I just

1048
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think it was flawless, you know

1049
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like and I think, you know, we'll

1050
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: get to the next movie, which I didn't think was good.

1051
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 2: But what is good?

1052
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: But what do we expect from when they say a

1053
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 4: Jordan peel move produced directed movie, we should already know

1054
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: at the bare minimum that.

1055
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: It's going to be some thought provoking you gotta watch

1056
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: it to figure it out.

1057
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 2: And it was.

1058
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: I think that's always the goal with him. So why

1059
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: do we over.

1060
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: Critique his ship but not you guys? I'm saying, like

1061
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: the you know, the ones who hate on.

1062
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: It, you know.

1063
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: I guess I wonder what people like when you When

1064
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: I am going through podcasts and albums, I said the

1065
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: often right when I like, I like to feel things.

1066
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: I like to be challenged in my own thought. So

1067
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: when I go to a certain podcast, depending on my mood,

1068
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: if I'm in the mood to listen to politics, I'm

1069
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna go to higher learning. If I want to laugh

1070
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: and hear people get cussed out, I'm gonna listen to

1071
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: the read if I want to hear people have awful

1072
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: takes all at the same time, I'm going to listen

1073
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: to the Joe Button pod, And so I see here.

1074
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: I wouldn't give them that. I think there's another pod

1075
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 3: that I associate that with.

1076
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: Wait, who gives awful takes? If I want to if

1077
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: I want to listen to.

1078
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: A pod.

1079
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: At this selective ignorance, and let us know who gives

1080
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: awful take?

1081
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: Actually?

1082
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 1: Actually, if I want to, if I want to listen

1083
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: to a pod that talks about all the things going

1084
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: on in life but makes it funny, I listen to

1085
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: Brilliant Idiots. If I want to listen to thought provoking

1086
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: women speak about politics and pop culture, I'm going to

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00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: listen to Around the Way Curls in No Way. And

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00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: this is why I didn't like Mister Morale and the

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00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: Big Steppers. Nothing about that album made me feel anything.

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00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to listen to a bit yelling at

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00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: you nothing. It doesn't feed me.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: So if I get people going into this film maybe

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00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: wanting to be scared, maybe because it's Jordan Peel, they

1095
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: expected the super maybe more more on the nose. Oh,

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00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: it's black people scared of white people. It's you know,

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00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: and it just wasn't that. And I just wanted to

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00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: bring it up to because I don't know if y'all

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00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: have watched it as an adult. Going back to numbers,

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Speaker 1: White Chicks got fifteen percent on Rotten Tomatoes and White

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00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: Chicks for many of us, is a fucking classic and.

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Speaker 2: We like it.

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00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: But I'm wondering, if you again, at that time in

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00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: our life, right, we all just wanted to support the

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00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: fucking Wayne's brothers. So I wonder if that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: We're not seeing Marlon Wayne's in what we believe.

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Speaker 2: In what we know him to make Jordan Peel movie

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Speaker 2: with Marlon Wayne, no ship. So love that.

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Speaker 3: We get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we get a twenty twenty five year where we

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00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: get a Jordan Peel movie and a Spike Lee movie.

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Speaker 1: That was We're not going there.

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00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: I like the transition and I feel that's that's that's.

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00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: A Spike Lee. I get it to like Spike Lee

1115
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: should have wiped his ass with the script. This was okay,

1116
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you now. I'm gonna tell you now.

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00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: If every you guys hold on if y'all go and

1118
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: listen to any podcast, right, And I've been asked this

1119
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: on various podcasts over the years. I no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: If if I could sit at a dinner table with

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00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: three people, dead or alive, who would it be? I

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00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: want to lead with Every single time, one of those

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Speaker 1: people has been Denzel Washington. I shared that earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: I bought mind you, I don't even want to go

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00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: to Halloween Hornets because the ticket four hundred dollars. I

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00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: spent five hundred dollars to go see fucking Denzel and

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00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: will give me the white man that I love? Yeah, Odella,

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: damn it. I like the white boy. He did it

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: with them.

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00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: Why can't I think of it right now?

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00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Please? Please please, because this is one of my favorite whites.

1132
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: So I love Denzel. I've loved Denzel so much that

1133
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 1: Jake jalng Hall there we go. In two thousand and four,

1134
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: I'll never forget this, y'all. Two thousand and four, it

1135
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: was my eighth grade year. We weren't doing great with money,

1136
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: so our Christmas was just exactly what we wanted, and

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00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: my mom gave us all our Christmas gifts in food

1138
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: line bags if y'all are from Florida, y'all remember food lines.

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Speaker 1: So I'm thirteen, fourteen years old, and we get our gifts,

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: and I remember that year, the two gifts that I

1141
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: actually wanted I got, and then mind you really crazy.

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: Then we just had a whole bunch of Christmas candy

1143
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: in it. My gift was the DVD. Let me start

1144
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: with the book first, I got the book Coldest Whenever

1145
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: Classic Classic. I don't think my mom knew what she

1146
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: was buying me. And then the DVD he got Game.

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00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: My two gifts the one year that my mama was like, bitch,

1148
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: I can't afford these gifts and your daddy tripping. And

1149
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: so anytime Denzel came out with anything, I saw it.

1150
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: So what do I do when I see the Denzel

1151
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: and Spike Lee have teamed up again again again? I

1152
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: gotta see it. Let's be very clear. Let's be very clear.

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00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: Spike Lee somehow, with the terrible acting of Ray Allen,

1154
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: made that movie. Ray Allen has to be one of

1155
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: the fucking worst worst people to ever hear from him.

1156
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Speaker 1: Came bro. They made us like Ray Allen as the actor.

1157
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: They made us look at Ray Allen as Jesus shuttles

1158
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: Worth that Nigga's acting was so bad we still didn't

1159
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: give a fuck and called that Nigga Jesus for like

1160
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: the rest of his goddamn career.

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Speaker 3: That's how you.

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Speaker 1: Spike gotta be somewhat good to make Ray bro I

1163
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: really believed him and Rosario Dawson was together like and

1164
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: then they were both It was just bad acting, right,

1165
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: So I've seen really good classic movies have bad acting

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00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: and still enjoy them. Baby, Denzel, wipe this late clean,

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Speaker 1: remove it off your I m B D, I m

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00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: dB whatever it is. This is the worst film I've

1169
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: seen all year, highest to lowest. Everything the bad acting,

1170
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Speaker 1: the writing, the scripting, the casting, the story itself, the

1171
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: story some tracks.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that there's another bar They could have

1173
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: another measure they could have hit with the storyline.

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00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how this was Greenland.

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00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: Well they Spike do what he wants?

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Speaker 2: No, it got Spike, so it got It came through Denzel.

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00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: It came through Denzel. Denzel got the script, and then

1178
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: Denzel reached out to Spike.

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00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Denzel like.

1180
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: You and the script was the first time. This is

1181
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 2: his first credit the script writers first credit.

1182
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 4: So it should be in his last And so maybe

1183
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,479
Speaker 4: and this is just based off the story of Chad

1184
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: with Bozman and how Denzel sponsored him quietly. Maybe that's

1185
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: you know, Denzel recently came out and said that he's

1186
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 4: got seven more films left, and maybe this was just like,

1187
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hold.

1188
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: You down, little little little why in I got you

1189
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 3: a little script?

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Speaker 2: White dude, white dude even that.

1191
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 4: Well, maybe he was like, yo, I with this kid,

1192
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him his launch and you know, this

1193
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 4: is gonna be his launching pad. And then I'm on

1194
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 4: to the next thing because he's gonna be in Black Panther, right,

1195
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 4: He's gonna be in some other movies.

1196
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: So it's like, here's nothing.

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let anybody who liked this film, good for you.

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: I liked you liked it because I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't look at that.

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00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: Once I saw what the movie was, I was like, Okay,

1201
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 4: this is they're telling a story about the music industry

1202
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: and where we're at in the digital.

1203
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Age that.

1204
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: But I thought that was the worst part of it.

1205
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: It was just old like, well, here's the thing. And

1206
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: by the way, the same way that Man. He says,

1207
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: she was like Denzel, That's how I feel about Spike Lee.

1208
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: Get me, Like I'm waiting for like like a big

1209
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: prestigious Spike Spike Lee right memoir or biography book, like

1210
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: I think it works amazing. But it's like he's like

1211
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: completely out of range on this, Like it's like it's

1212
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: like mad Old, pull your pants up, like aspectability politics

1213
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: with it all like and and and it's supposed to

1214
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: be the music industry at the end, like.

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00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: By the way, the sound design and you are a

1216
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: sound design sound so you.

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00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: Like there was some issues. I guess maybe I'm over.

1218
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't look at that.

1219
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that Denzel and Spike could do any

1220
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 4: wrong at this point, So even if they do.

1221
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 3: Something like you know, I don't think the previous I

1222
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: don't think.

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Speaker 2: Okay, got game he Alcolm X. Inside Man, of course,

1224
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Speaker 2: I love the standards.

1225
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: Inside Man was was Spike Lee.

1226
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: Inside Man was?

1227
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: I did not do that. But what I'm saying, although

1228
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: can I just say Inside Man he redid that?

1229
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Right?

1230
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Inside Man was was the movie that

1231
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Speaker 1: I feel like he did three or four times with

1232
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: four different directors because like Man on fire. It's there

1233
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of movie movies at one time that

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: he did where I was like.

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Speaker 2: This is all the same goddamn movie, right, you know

1236
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: what I mean? But no, Wow, I didn't know it

1237
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: could be that could be part of it, that could

1238
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: be part of my field.

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: No high Solos felt like, I mean, here's the thing

1240
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: he's just running out of. I love Denzel and up

1241
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: till now. His worst film to me that I didn't like,

1242
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: And it's also just because I felt like there wasn't

1243
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: enough words in it was Book of Eli.

1244
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: And maybe I hate another messaging.

1245
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: It was one of the messaging movies from the Bible.

1246
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: It was in black and white, and I felt like

1247
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: he had maybe fifteen words the follow you don't Yeah,

1248
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do That's.

1249
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 3: Not that I don't like the Bible, Mary Joseph.

1250
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: If if Denzel's hair was different, yo, would it be better?

1251
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,959
Speaker 2: His his contribution can be better.

1252
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: It was the Tyler Perry wig spray On.

1253
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 2: It was a Tyler Perry like twenty twelve.

1254
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: I and He's the thing where I wanted to even

1255
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: lean into these critiques. We started even talking about Cardi

1256
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: and Waiting, but what people thought of the album and

1257
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: and now getting into these films. I mean, do we

1258
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: not like the First Amendment? Do we not want to

1259
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: allow people to have differences of opinions? Like me saying

1260
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: how much I hate this film doesn't make me a hater.

1261
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it doesn't make me hate her.

1262
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: It makes me be someone who hates this film.

1263
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: But I think what is you can hate something that?

1264
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: And y'all had a comment at dinner and you told him,

1265
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 4: said he, what do you think about the movie? And

1266
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 4: you told him and he said, y, I expect the

1267
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 4: next one to be.

1268
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: That, Oh, let me ask you.

1269
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you that question. As people who publicly

1270
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: share their opinions, what are your thoughts about people who

1271
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: share opinions online but when they get in front of

1272
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: somebody and switch up. I'm trying to think, like if

1273
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I messed like Lee and he was like, Yo, you

1274
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: you catch my latest flick?

1275
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: What you thought of it?

1276
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 1: In the moment? I think I like that response. I

1277
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what you do next now.

1278
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: Knowing you, though you're not gonna say yo, actually asked

1279
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: you to be knowing me?

1280
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: It depends how many drinks I had.

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: I think that there's some people that just obnoxious. I

1282
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: don't think you fall into that way.

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01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: I would, I wouldn't be obnoxious, but I definitely would

1284
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: be like, Yo, I really loved what you've done with Denzel.

1285
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: I hope y'all continue, but I don't. I don't know.

1286
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to tell him I liked it.

1287
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: No, and you don't have to, but you have legitimate

1288
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: reasons for disliking it that I feel like you can

1289
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: say that I dislike it. I hate it, like it.

1290
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: Took me three days to finish it. I've never stopped

1291
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: and not finished a whole Denzel movie like ever in

1292
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: my life. Like like bro othello, I didn't even understand them, niggas.

1293
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: I was like referencing it from watching Oh Back with

1294
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: Makai Piffer and Julius Stiles.

1295
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wait, I know what's.

1296
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: Going on, and I was just liking Denzel being Denzel.

1297
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: But like, I hated this film so much. And it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because we semi leaned into it a bit. But

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Speaker 1: when I talk about the things I don't like or

1300
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: my difference as opinions with other podcasters, nigga. They love

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01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: to call me a hater, and I'm like, I don't

1302
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: understand why I, as another podcaster, am left to being

1303
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: someone who can't critique. I just talked about how I

1304
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: feel like it's nutty that we're all critiquing album cells

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01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: and all these things, like we're inside the industry, but me,

1306
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: who's been a podcaster for nine years gets gets called

1307
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: a bully or a hater for having critiques on my

1308
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: peers and the people in my space. Again, when I

1309
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: talked about the Sheet Magazine Awards, I expect a certain

1310
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: level of professionalism in a space that I've been in.

1311
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: So when I'm listening to podcasters and I don't like

1312
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: a take on serious topics like domestic violence or things

1313
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: like that, especially from the mouths of women, I should

1314
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Speaker 1: be able to speak on it.

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Speaker 4: I think those pods are performative though they do that

1316
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 4: shit because they know it theyg gonna get it, but

1317
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: not necessarily that their audio number is going to be.

1318
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: I think I think it's like jokes, getting away of

1319
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: so much stuff, Like whether it's podcast or like online,

1320
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: it's like you want to fire off these jokes. To

1321
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: Mandy's point, I'm not going to say in front of

1322
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: somebody's face, but I'll get that off. And that's the

1323
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 2: part that like really bothers me because like with Mandy, Hey,

1324
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: I know you listen to a lot of podcasts. I'm

1325
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: actually surprised my podcast you.

1326
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: Have you been? Have you been?

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01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: In?

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01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: My friends they hate like mind you pregame and things

1329
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: like that is always in my house or when we're

1330
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: on vacation. Them just don't get to listen to music.

1331
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: So even even Crystal, they don't get to listen to music.

1332
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Even Crystal came over my house the other day. That's

1333
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 1: my best friend for y'all that are new here, and

1334
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: we were getting ready to go out and I was

1335
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: literally playing the joke on the podcast. She was like, bitch,

1336
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: do you never like how do you always have this on?

1337
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: And I said, well, let me tell you. I'm an

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01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: hour in, two twenty minutes in, and there's an hour

1339
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: and forty one minutes left, so it takes me days

1340
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: to finish it. And then when I finish it, yeah,

1341
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: the read is also over an hour. Higher learning is

1342
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: over an hour. Higher learning also drops twice a week.

1343
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: Multi these pods now drop multiple times a week, so

1344
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't listen to as much music.

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 3: I'll listen to.

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01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: Music when i'm fucking and when i'm thinking. That's the

1347
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: only time I listen to music.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. But my point, as I finish,

1349
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 2: is that sorry about that. My point that I was

1350
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: going to say is that because I know you listen

1351
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: to so many podcasts that when you give a critique

1352
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: or you give feedback up line, I take what you

1353
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: say very seriously of course, right, Like I don't think

1354
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: that you're just doing it offhandedly or flippantly like that

1355
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: You've put in work, and so when you say something

1356
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: about it, I'm like, all right, this is coming with

1357
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: like some if not substantial thought, like at least it's

1358
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: not just some like fly by Night like you know what.

1359
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: It's like, I listened to the whole three hours and

1360
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: for the past three weeks, and this is what I

1361
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: say about what they're doing lately. And I just feel

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01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: like a lot of critique, like even with like the

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01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: highest Lewess, like I heard like a lot of the

1364
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: like word of mouth, like it wasn't good, it wasn't good.

1365
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 2: And then when I tried to look it up online

1366
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 2: to see what people were saying, like it was just

1367
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 2: all jokes.

1368
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 1: They were saying jokes about it.

1369
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: It was just like mad jokes about like I can't

1370
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: belay to cast this person or like this person or whatever.

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01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, like why don't y'all.

1372
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: Really like it's the real critic.

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 2: But then if I look up at like an actual

1374
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: like review and then i'm reading the review, I'm like, yeah,

1375
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: I see that point, I see a point, and then

1376
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: when I watch it, I'm like, yeah, I feel that

1377
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm getting similar vibes of why I didn't like it,

1378
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: And so it's it's it's kind of hard to kind

1379
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: of get like a read of like what people actually

1380
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: feel about stuff because online is so tricky to gauge

1381
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: like which jokes and what's performative versus like this is

1382
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: what I'm actually.

1383
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: You gotta go by yourself because we probably missed out

1384
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 4: on masterpieces because we rely on not us. But like

1385
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 4: you know, community relies on community on social media to

1386
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: determine whether or not the like the album to drop.

1387
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: They'll go scan before they listen to it, listen to.

1388
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: It, listen, and then go listen to the.

1389
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 4: Lunch table and figure it out. But I don't think

1390
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: we give each other a chance for that shit.

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: No, I agree, I agree, and I just you know,

1392
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: want us to like open up and allow people to disagree,

1393
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Like when y'all listen to this podcast, I know, because

1394
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: even a king will hit me up like, oh I

1395
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: hated yo take here, and then I hated your guest.

1396
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: Take kudos to you for having to edit and listen

1397
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: to this shit back because I know draws you goddamn crazy.

1398
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: But even for the listeners like I appreciate and open

1399
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: the floor up to more of just allowing people to

1400
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: agree to disagree. That was actually gonna be the name

1401
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: of this podcast, y'all agree to disagree, but it was

1402
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: taken by like five different people. I love selective ignorance better.

1403
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is I think it came from a

1404
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody who said select and it just stuck.

1405
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: It just suck. It might have actually been an ish,

1406
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna give them that credit because then

1407
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: he can want a percentage of something.

1408
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: But I have a question for you. Talk to me.

1409
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 2: So you were mentioning like the things you do and

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: you consider them aret and so that means there's an

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 2: audience for it. What do you imagine your audience? Who

1412
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: who listens to all the combination of stuff, because obviously

1413
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: you have a file. You have a huge filing, right

1414
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: like you have three hundred thousand people on Instagram. If

1415
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: you combine all your stuff for podcasts and everything, it's

1416
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: a substancial, substantial group that's checking in with what you do.

1417
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: And who do you imagine who your audience is? Like?

1418
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I know for sure from a from a

1419
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: female listener, I believe that audience is. I believe them

1420
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: to be educated. I believe them to be making a good,

1421
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: substantial money, and I believe them to either aspire to

1422
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: be as open as I am, or women that are

1423
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: just as open as I am, Like they don't take

1424
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: no shit, and they're opinionated, and they're just as grateful

1425
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: as I am that we live in this part of

1426
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: the world, not the world, but also what the two

1427
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: we're in twenty.

1428
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: Twenty five, right, this part of them.

1429
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know this part of life because I don't

1430
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: know if I exist as who I am if I

1431
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: was born in the nineteen sixty they're born, you know,

1432
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: in a different era. We're in this era. There we go,

1433
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: and so I believe that those are my female listeners.

1434
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: The male listeners I think hate listen. I think I

1435
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: have a mixture of male men that like do hate

1436
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: listen to me, but also men that might not be

1437
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: as misogynistic and appreciate the perspective from a woman's standpoint.

1438
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: I do believe my audience is skewed between twenty five

1439
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: to forty five, a little older, just because I like

1440
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 1: to get into the shit. I don't think I have

1441
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: a young audience. I don't care myself very.

1442
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 2: Young, you know what I mean. And then so I'm

1443
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: asking also I'm asking you this then because you mentioned

1444
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: the other day when we were chatting, you said, the

1445
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: reaction if somebody checks your social is one thing and

1446
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: it seems like it's mixed or people are hating on you.

1447
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: But in person, when you account o people, it's all love.

1448
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's way different. But it's probably like what we

1449
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: just talked about with Spike.

1450
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 2: Like I say, like your audience, well also like your

1451
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 2: real audience.

1452
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'm Spike's audience, no to here, know what

1453
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1454
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: Who you just described as your audience is probably the

1455
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 2: people that you're running into in person.

1456
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, the educated people that

1457
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: I spoke about aren't going under anonymous names and leaving

1458
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: the hateful comments that I'm getting throughout the things. So

1459
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: a lot of my audience also like reminds me every

1460
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: single time, like, bruh, but we see you, bruh. We

1461
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: don't being here on this journey with you. Stop giving

1462
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: Stop giving the hater so much light. And I think

1463
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: that's the part about this, Like, we love the freedom

1464
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: of speech to be able to critique, to uplift the

1465
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: things we like, and it's not that we're tearing down

1466
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: the things we dislike. However, unfortunately the hate is louder

1467
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: than the support sometimes, you know what I mean, because

1468
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: it's also just what people enjoy. I was just saying

1469
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: on my radio show when we were talking about Nicki

1470
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: and Carti, she was like, I just want the girls

1471
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: to stop fighting, and in my mind, I was like,

1472
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: I don't. This is entertainment, And unfortunately, like the things

1473
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: that we share, especially when we hate something is viewed

1474
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: as entertainment for a lot of us. And we like

1475
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: the gossip, we like the mess, we like the divorce chatter.

1476
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: We don't like when people are happy and so Unfortunately

1477
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: the hate becomes loud because that's also what we like

1478
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: to consume. We just do. I just, I just in

1479
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: terms of critiquing art, there's a way to just say

1480
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: you don't like something without making me seem like I'm

1481
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: a hater. I wanted to fail like I want. I

1482
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: want Denzel and Spike to make all the money from that,

1483
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: because I want black men and black women in all

1484
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: facets of art to get to the fucking bag.

1485
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1486
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: But if I'm on a mic or I'm out in

1487
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: public and I'm not a phony ass bitch, and I'm

1488
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna share with you my thoughts and opinions. If I

1489
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: don't like something, I don't like it, and we should

1490
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 1: all be able to do that. I would say, at

1491
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day, go watch him, Go highest

1492
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: to Lois, Go get Cardi B's new album and anything

1493
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: online that you say.

1494
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: You know that you hear that people hate.

1495
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: I encourage you to go check it out for yourself. Now,

1496
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: don't come suing me, because yes, you cannot get that

1497
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: time back, bitch, I spent three days trying.

1498
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 3: To watch I'm just saying.

1499
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know what's crazy. Time is the

1500
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: one thing you can't get back. That's why these niggas

1501
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: waste my money, don't waste my time. I could get

1502
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 1: the money back, I can't get the time back. So

1503
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: if y'all sit down, just know that you might not

1504
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: get that ninety four minutes back.

1505
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: You might not like you'll never get back. You don't

1506
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 2: get time. I hated the most about highest lowest. What

1507
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 2: remember remember scene no hate, we can hate? What has

1508
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: the scene where like character was chasing Rocky's character.

1509
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: Its Spike.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't him. When he jumped up, Spike held

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01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: the camera and awaited me look old old like he's

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 2: all right, man slow. When he was going up the steps,

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, it's a better way.

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Speaker 3: You could have cut right because they look he was

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01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 3: out of breath, but he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: I didn't running. I went to I stopped, and I

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 3: went to, that is a bullet. I want always Denzel.

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 4: Because by the way, he is stunt double.

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 3: I mean, this is double Spike.

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01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 2: You gotta protect your man, hold him down.

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01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: He was like, mind you, mind you.

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the film he actually

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: did himself, but Gladiator he was out there doing somethings.

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01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, actually, but I think he

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: only fought in the in the in the pond or

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01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: the river at the end. Other than that, he just

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01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: kept putting his versace cloak over his goddamn show.

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01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 4: Look, I mean they hated Belly when he came out.

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: Now it's a certified classic. Yeah, I mean, and that

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01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 4: expect and that was also we've been like.

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01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, things growing now. It was like he's

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: we've been we've been like dancing around like the word expectation,

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: like we say expectations here there, like all three of

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,800
Speaker 2: us been saying that like that. That also paints how

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01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: we think, Like my expectations for Belly are gonna be different.

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01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: White Chicks. It's gonna be different than like a Denzel

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01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 2: Spike Froning movie. So you know you're gonna grade different

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: on the curve for that, which I think White White

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 2: Chicks is a classic, Like it's a late night like

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01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 2: I don't have to change your channel on HBO, I'm already.

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01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 2: White Chicks is the.

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01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: Movie as an adult you put on when you know

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to finish the movie, but you're okay

1545
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: with missing it, So you know, you're gonna fuck in

1546
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: the middle, like it's okay, y. You know, there's certain

1547
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: movies like different type of classes, like it's a different

1548
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: type of classic, like you're okay with not finishing. White

1549
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: Chicks Love White Chicks. That was my favorite movie when

1550
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: I was thirteen, before I was fucking. But now White

1551
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: Chicks is so good, I'll turn it on you. Okay,

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: Just so y'all know, my other favorite movie is Law

1553
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: Abiding Citizen. But that's also a movie where I might

1554
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: suck your dick and we're gonna miss a large portion

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01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: of the movie. Look, Lawbodies is wait wait wait, he's

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: a white man fox and uh Russell Gerard Butler. I

1557
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: mixed up him and Russell Crost sometimes, but Gerard Butler. Nigga,

1558
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 1: you've never seen Law Abiding Citizens?

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01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: Hold on, I've seen the trailer.

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no anyone watching right now. I'm gonna

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: give you, guys some of my favorite films real quick

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01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, just so that now

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01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: you could judge me if you're like movie, yeah, some

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: of my favorite films. Okay, so you law Abiding Citizen

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01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand percent. Then Training Day, one of my

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01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 1: faves of course, that's a classic classic. You want to

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: know a movie that makes me feel like I could

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01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: be all you pul sass Wholes three hundred. I think

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01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: that's another one with Gerard Butler.

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01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 2: Butler, that's one of my favorite.

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: That's my favorite white. I ain't gonna hold you. I

1572
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 1: really like him. I really like him a lot.

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01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 2: I think it's a quality white.

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01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he's a quality white. Then if we lean

1575
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: into like comedies a little bit, love step Brothers, Oh

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01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: my god, love love.

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: More quality whites love, Uh, what is it?

1578
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: Bridesmaids? Great film, love inception. I want to watch it

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01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: back right now. But Butterfly Effect used to be one

1580
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 1: of my one of my favorite ones as well with

1581
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: Ashton Kutcher. And then all the movies that I actually

1582
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: like growing up, I hate them now Loving Basketball, terrible

1583
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: fucking film, Oh terrible as another film that I actually

1584
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: really like, but questionable save the Last Dance, Derek, Derek,

1585
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: you can help.

1586
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 2: Who you love? That never moving? She was moving so stiff.

1587
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if you watching.

1588
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: Live Dream, It's not as hot as Crazy Crazy, But

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: I would just say those are some of my my

1590
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: favorite movies. Oh and then if you really want to

1591
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: get into it. I love all all, don't make me

1592
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: rate them. Hunger Games. Hunger Games is one of my

1593
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 1: favorite sci fi sci fi trilogies, frilogies.

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01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you have time to watch this

1595
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 3: ship playing?

1596
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: But she just made she just mentioned movies from like

1597
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: the past.

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm now. I really only get to watch

1599
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: movies on planes, so when I travel long distances. That's

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01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: why I only like Delta because I don't see how y'all,

1601
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 1: how y'all niggas be getting on these planes with no

1602
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: TVs like I'd have tried it with something. I was like, whoa,

1603
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: there's not even a there's not even a pocket in

1604
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 1: the seat for me to put anything. I got onto

1605
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: another flight recently and I was like.

1606
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: Oh, do you remember that. It was like a headline

1607
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: where people they said they were raw dog in flights.

1608
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: They were flying from New York to LA with no phone,

1609
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 2: no movies.

1610
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: That's no, that's insane. Just there's no way, there's no way,

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 1: there's no way I could go up five. I'm only

1612
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 1: doing those type of flights when it's like less than

1613
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 1: an hour hour and a half max. Bro, Because by

1614
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: the time you get up, you coming down. I'm not

1615
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: doing a two three, four, five six hour flight on

1616
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: no frontier spirit, none of them with no TVs. Bruh,

1617
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: not doing it, not fucking doing it. Anyways. Those are

1618
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: some of my favorite movies. If you hate them, I'm

1619
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: not gonna call you a hater. You are you know

1620
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 1: you're subjective to your own opinion. Short, go ahead, do it.

1621
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: Do we have any last words for this? Outside of that,

1622
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, y'all can hate things and not

1623
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: be a hater. And I would like for you to

1624
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: do wantto others as you would like done unto you,

1625
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: which means if you want the ability to hate something

1626
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: and critique something in public and not like it when

1627
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: someone disagrees with you or doesn't see yours, don't immediately

1628
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: go to talking shit about they. Mama, don't call them fat,

1629
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: don't call them ugly. They're not a hater just because

1630
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: you have a difference of opinion. That is what we

1631
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 1: should actually be fighting for right now, y'all, because Trump

1632
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,480
Speaker 1: is literally aligning himself with the person who is allegedly

1633
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: created Project twenty twenty five, even though he said it

1634
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a real thing. So we are literally living in

1635
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: fear right now of not being able to have our

1636
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: own opinions or being able to critique a goddamn thing.

1637
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 1: And so with that said, y'all let people like and

1638
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: dis like what they want publicly, because that is like

1639
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: the beauty. It's the beauty of where we live right now.

1640
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: And again, no one's the devil just because they don't

1641
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: like what you don't like, and let's.

1642
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: Liking stuff.

1643
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 6: Verses to wait, was that a Bible verse?

1644
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 3: I feel like somebody don't wrap that.

1645
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: Somebody don't wrap that. Let me ask, bt has anyone

1646
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: rapped do all the other? This was a mad both.

1647
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: It's the second listen, somebody anyways? Do we do?

1648
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: Y'all have anything?

1649
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: Y'all want to let the people know y'all got anything

1650
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: going on. Jason, you said you're working on a lot. Y'all,

1651
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what you got going on. He ain't

1652
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: let me know nothing over there.

1653
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 2: What you're doing now speak knocking out my newsletter? Right

1654
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: if you like rap check out my newsletter.

1655
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna that info Jason Rodriguez dot info. We're gonna

1656
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: put that in the description of this episode so that

1657
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: people can get to know your your Mind, journalism Jayson

1658
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: and ain'tk anything with you.

1659
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: Stuff cooking, stuff is stuff is cooking through Q four.

1660
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 3: Oh god, there you go.

1661
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 2: We're going to come out.

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01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,120
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