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Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue,

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Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the Pot Brothers

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Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one, the world's number

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Speaker 1: one source for everything cannabis. My name is Blue. Alongside

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Speaker 1: him is the world famous Pot Brothers at Law, Mark

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Speaker 1: and Craig Wasserman and Mr Joe Grande and we are

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Speaker 1: Mr Grande? Hey, I'm doing better than Joe because I

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Speaker 1: stayed to the party later. Actually you did not know,

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Speaker 1: writes hello, I am at Joe Grande fifty two on

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Speaker 1: our show tonight. You guys, we've got a chance to

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Speaker 1: be hanging out at a spot and we see this

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Speaker 1: big brother that looked like Mark Washerman. I couldn't tell

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Speaker 1: he was. Because we have Jamir Miller. If you followed

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Speaker 1: We see him here, Jamir, Welcome to Cannabis talk one

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Speaker 1: on one. Brother. It was it was great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. It was great to see you last night

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Speaker 1: at our little after party event with all the other

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Speaker 1: that brother holds that stay together and played together. I

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Speaker 1: gotta keep it tight. You know, we have the spot,

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Speaker 1: know why you thought that mark, and I looked because

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Speaker 1: you know, I said, shut the fuck. Uh yeah, So

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Speaker 1: are you familiar with the populars at law and they're

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Speaker 1: a little oh that that being said, so what's your

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Speaker 1: What are they? What is your name? Sure? I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Brian Ward? Brian, Nice to have you on. Brian, and

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Speaker 1: to the industry. It went back to ending prohibition, getting

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00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: people out of jail, telling the truth about cannabis, and

426
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: ending this war on people and a plant. Do you

427
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: know what was it that really spearheaded your father to

428
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: go in that direction from the get go? Like what

429
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: it was? It was there one particular thing that sent

430
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: him off. Yes, there was, and you know, and it's

431
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 1: an age old you know issue. It was It was

432
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: a woman they sometimes positively, No, I mean, I mean,

433
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 1: really what happened was my was that the woman that

434
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: had you know it was not, but it's the woman

435
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: who inspired my father to uh to follow this and uh,

436
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, my father caught my mother smoking cannabis in

437
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: the late sixties and he was so right, you know,

438
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 1: he was anti everything. I thought all cannabis used and

439
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: anti war protesters should be taken out and summarily shot.

440
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: And then he got high. Um, that's like a number

441
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: one hit, right. I was about to go to school

442
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: and then I got high. I'll change your mind. But

443
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 1: but she, uh, he was gonna have my mother turned

444
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: in and uh, you know, take the kids away from her.

445
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: And he went back to his his his apartment where

446
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: there was a young law student that was there, and

447
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: he confided in her that he was going to have

448
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: his ex wife arrested. And she goes, you're fucking idiot,

449
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: and and for some reason that endeared her to him,

450
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: and he continued to try to ask her out after that,

451
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: and she says, I can't hang out with you. You're

452
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: too square. And after a couple of months she said,

453
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: come smoke some pot with me. We'll hang out. And

454
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 1: then that that evening literally changed my father's life. And

455
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: he went from being super you know, Barry Goldwater, Republican,

456
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: very conserved, i uh, to being you know, the king

457
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: of the hippies and the seventies and the proponent of

458
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: every um you know, uh initiative to legalized cannabis since

459
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, so seventy nine two, and then with

460
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: the proposition of proposition to with the proposition to fifteen

461
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: passing in ninety six with Dennis Prone. Um, you know,

462
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 1: the world has never been the same. And it's funny

463
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: because your dad also wrote the book The Emperor Wears

464
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: No Clothes. I mean, he's done so many things in

465
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: this cannabis space, and I know it's just looking at

466
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: something that you really don't know the true answer. But

467
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: you are a seed. So the question to you is

468
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: what do you think your dad would feel. I can

469
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: say when he'd come to an m J biscon and

470
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: everything that he's seen, and now this is the biggest

471
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: MJ bizcon in history, one here in beautiful Las Vegas.

472
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: What do you your guts say when you go home

473
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: and you're laid down, like Dad, look at this if

474
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: it now look at the party I went to, look

475
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: at this, look at that. Well, I will tell you

476
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: that my father, Um would say, on one level, because

477
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 1: there was some ego to him, he would say I

478
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: told you so. Um. On the other side, he would

479
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear that, you know, and he did.

480
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: He said it had been doing it. He was activist forever.

481
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: So I told you, so this's gonna happen. Yeah, So

482
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 1: seeing what is happening here for him, it would also

483
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: be humbling. My dad was also a very tender person.

484
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: He would probably uh, he would probably have some tears

485
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: over how how much this plan has not just changed

486
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: his life and the people that he was surrounded. But

487
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: if you look at every one of these companies that

488
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: are here, that are participating, that have a dream, they

489
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: have employees, they have families, These families and these employees

490
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: are being supported by this plant that he had spent

491
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: a lifetime fighting for from that, he would be incredibly humbled.

492
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: And I think that he would be right here cheering

493
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: on every single one of these companies, you know, whether

494
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: its product or process. And and on the other side,

495
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: he would be fucking Hella piste off that governments use

496
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: this plant and and and and continue to govern and

497
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: and suppress its access um through its regulations, through all

498
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: of the things that we have to be and do

499
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,959
Speaker 1: and twist and turn and contort as a cannabis community.

500
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: You know, we have to live by these compliance codes

501
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: and these access codes and and and and in a

502
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: in a sense, you know, we are living we have

503
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: access to cannabis. But it's more like state sponsored extortion.

504
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, Oh, you want to you want

505
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: to be in cannabis, It's gonna cost you this much

506
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: for a permit. Oh you want to grow cannabis, It's

507
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna cost you five dollars a square foot for just

508
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: the space. Oh wait a minute, you want to transport cannabis,

509
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: that's going to be another tax. What do you mean

510
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: you want to sell cannabis? Now, that's gonna be another tax.

511
00:25:53,440 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: So then it's exhaust But but even in natural but

512
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: even in that sense, when the states go we're gonna

513
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: open up a new green zone, all of a sudden,

514
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: individuals who own the properties in those green zones that

515
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: couldn't have rented that space for eighty five cents of

516
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: square food a square foot, now they go like, oh

517
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: my god, we can sell cannabis in this community. Now

518
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna you know, the price on the buildings. Instead

519
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: of being a million dollars and eight million dollars, instead

520
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: of being eighty five cents square foot, it's five dollars

521
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: and eight five square foot. So even even people that

522
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: aren't attached to government regulations all get into the extortion

523
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: of cannabis tax. And you know what, I've seen so

524
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: much of that right in the last let's call it

525
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: seven eight years or whatever it's been. And it's interesting

526
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of these people have no idea and

527
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: they're just sitting there going, well, you paid three times

528
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: the amount, and you're going, what you know by? Where

529
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: where is that? And it's and you're literally and then

530
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: and then there's someone behind it going well I'll do it,

531
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: which I mean, it almost takes away from what the

532
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: plants about. And and I don't think that people really

533
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: understand that, because if they really understood the plant, they

534
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: understood what they were doing, I think they'd have more

535
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: compassionate and and they would really focus. But what they

536
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: think is it's a green rush and these guys are

537
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: gonna get rich and this and that, and it's like, no,

538
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: we're trying to help people like the real the real

539
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: industry guys are trying to help people like they care.

540
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: We all care. It should be community before commodity. We

541
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: know that it's going to be commoditized. We know that

542
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: there's money to be made. Look at what m J.

543
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: Biscon is sure, you know, but it doesn't have to

544
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: eliminate the actual substance in the base and the and

545
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: the foundation of what what created the the acceptance of cannabis.

546
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be at the expense of the

547
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: community that fought for it. It doesn't have to be

548
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: at the expense of the consumer who now has to

549
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: pay extortionary price just for the access of it. I mean,

550
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: if you think that during COVID that all of these

551
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: states that had the cannabis companies stayed open as the necessity,

552
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't because they believed in cannabis or even that

553
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: they wanted people to get medicine. It was because it

554
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: was the biggest tax revenue for any state that's selling it,

555
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: and that was the reason why it was open during COVID. Yeah,

556
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy when you say all these things like that

557
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: and it's so true. It's just it's interesting to Yeah,

558
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: if it brings me down, thanks for ruining the show

559
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: DA based on for me. By the way. You know,

560
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: we had a great time not bring up that ship

561
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: when truth came out like we did all weekend and

562
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: not be so honest. You know what, you think. It

563
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: can't it can't all it can't all be you know,

564
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: everybody's making money and this is all we talk about

565
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: the jack golf tournament and have a good time. I'll

566
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: be waiting for your contribution the next time we set

567
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: it up. But the reality, the reality is is that

568
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: there are companies that put fifty million dollars, hundred million

569
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: dollars into real spit dog. Everything you're saying is real,

570
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: It's okay. But if these same companies would put twenty

571
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: million dollars into changing the laws that are in these states,

572
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: that are that are actually directing cannabis and its access,

573
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: we could changed and have a fairly balanced, equitable system

574
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: across cannabis, and all all people in cannabis, consumer or

575
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: company would be able to benefit by all of these

576
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: millions and millions and millions of dollars that are being

577
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: invested to being able to change the narrative from something

578
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: that needs to be suppressed or or protected or they're

579
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: having the community protected. Um that we could actually have

580
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: a really engaging, wonderful relationship with community and this commodity. Dan,

581
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: How does that rollout really? Look though? I mean, let's

582
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: let's because I'm I'm I love how articulate you are

583
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: in this and you understand it, so well, what does

584
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 1: that rollout look like on a federal level, not what

585
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: you want, but what you think it's going to be.

586
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: And and you know, because there's two things I know

587
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: right there has to be right, so right, the government

588
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: is never gonna really make things better because I don't

589
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: know anything that the government has ever been involved in

590
00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: that they didn't sunk up. So here, you know what,

591
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: I just like to thank the government for my insurance

592
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: right now, so and the healthcare. Thank you for the

593
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: money that they gave me during the pandemic. You know,

594
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's I'm not saying that there aren't

595
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: good things. I'm not just saying when when it comes

596
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: to imagine, imagine how far we would be in the

597
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: cannabis industry today if if the efforts to understand it

598
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: and and work with it from a scientific and industrial

599
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: applications weren't suppressed from ninety years. Imagine or imagine if

600
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: they'd work together, And imagine if they look at what

601
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: the vote was this past year where the Green vote

602
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: out voted anything and everything on any ballot fifty states

603
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: in this beautiful country. And to also think if this

604
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: government would look at the money that it generates and

605
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: come up with something that goes. Hey, every state can prosper,

606
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: every city can prosper. All these people can get affected

607
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: in the most positive of way. Ever by dis going

608
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: let's make it fedially legal. Of course, I think it's

609
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: easier said than them because they can't. I'm just saying,

610
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: as you say that, Jack, I agree one thousand with you.

611
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: And there's so many situations in scenario that I could

612
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: jump on my soapbox and just continue to go you're right,

613
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, but you're gonna happen. Market just

614
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: sit here and says it's not gonna happen, trying to

615
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: be like, you know, what is your costco? Because I

616
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: keep saying this, I think it's costco. I think it's

617
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: your smoke shops. I agree. I think the infrastructure is

618
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: already set up. What are they differstructure is being set up.

619
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: A control hasn't been done yet. The control is still

620
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, we we've we've asked to come out of

621
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: the dark and into this new commercial market. But we

622
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: were not necessarily the businessmen that have been creating industry,

623
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: creating you know, uh, you know Apple, you know, access

624
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: to the you know, to the investment markets in New York,

625
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: these companies will come in. They've they're already here, whether

626
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: they're alcohol and tobacco, whether they're pharma, those those companies

627
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: are already part of the space, but they're doing it quietly.

628
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: If you're talking about uh from from an automobile standboy,

629
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, BMW and Mercedes have been making their automobile

630
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: parts using cannabis for almost twenty years, but they don't

631
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 1: talk about it. You know. So all of these until

632
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: until there's a purging from the United States federal government

633
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: that says cannabis is acceptable and that they're safe banking. Um,

634
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: there's not going to be anything but the continued suppression

635
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: of the cannabis industry until companies like these big commercial

636
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: or corporate juggernauts come in and say, Okay, we're gonna

637
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: come in and we're gonna take over, and we'll we'll

638
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: take it over from here. And by the way, we're

639
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: not going to pay tax. We're not going to pay

640
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: for that. They're gonna ask for the same concessions doing

641
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: cannabis as they are doing oil. And until they have

642
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: the ability to do that, we're gonna struggle. We're gonna

643
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: But but the thing is the cannabis can the cannabis

644
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: community is fucking resilient. Look at this. All of this

645
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: has happened through federal prohibition. For those who have never

646
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: been to an M J. Bascon, I'm telling you you

647
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: got to do that. If you're listening to this podcast,

648
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: you're obviously you kind of curious or in the game.

649
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: And if you haven't been here, you're truly missing out. Yeah,

650
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: and how does that? I mean, like I said, like,

651
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: what do you do you feel though that those big

652
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: operators are I know they're coming on right and I

653
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: know and I know they're gonna break down the taxes

654
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get rid of these times mystery about

655
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: the big companies telling the government, because that's what it

656
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: really takes, right, Like when companies do that, I haven't

657
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: even heard of that concept. And then but when you

658
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: say it like that, when those big companies that basically

659
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: run the country, like your Walmart world like exactly, you

660
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they run the world, right, So

661
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: there's Walmarts, these other companies. The cost goes that this

662
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: is that the they say, look at man, we're gonna

663
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: do that. We need to make this happen. That's when

664
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: they need to have those powerhouses. Let's get Facebook in

665
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: there in their Google and say let's make cannabis go,

666
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: because those are the companies that, like you say, really

667
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: make ship change and happening. And why does it come

668
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: down to that big money baby, and that big is

669
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: going to change it but will not your rights. It's

670
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: not to say that they may not find a heart.

671
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: They may not have a heart now the way that

672
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: we perceive it. But you know, the funny thing about

673
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Canadas cannabis is when it touches you, when it becomes

674
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: part of you, When when you have an experience that

675
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: you feel, or see or or you know have that's

676
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: life changing. You see what it does for somebody's life.

677
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: You see how powerful the plant is, not the money

678
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: that comes from it, and that is the most powerful

679
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: thing about this plant is the community that embraces it,

680
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: loves it, and and the way that it affects them.

681
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: And we still deal with the propaganda though of the

682
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: stoner you know what I mean, ther this is your brain,

683
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: all the bullshit that we've been taught as kids that

684
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: the narrative has to change. Yeah, and I believe it is.

685
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: By things like this, and by the other big companies

686
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: getting involved. I really love the fact what this MJ

687
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: Bizcon is doing, it's professional, it's legit. When we had

688
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: the CEO on, he described it in such a way

689
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: of what they were looking to do. And I believe

690
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: that movement is rolling in the right direction, but slow.

691
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: That's the last night you crash, he disappeared. What's gonna

692
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: happened when federal legalization comes like you want to, Joe,

693
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: and then there's mass unemployment because all these employment what

694
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: do you mean, it's unemployment from all the people who

695
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: lose their job from the prisons, to close the jails,

696
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: to close all of that. Hold on, Mark, are you

697
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: telling me, as a lawyer, a criminal defense lawyer, there's

698
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: not enough idiots out there that are still going to

699
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: get in trouble besides cannabis. No, it's mostly surrounding cannabis.

700
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, amount of people who are in the

701
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: amount of people who are incarcerated on not virolent cannabis charges.

702
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, he knows so so to think about this

703
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: and this is this is this is the tradeoff that's

704
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: been happening with the with the ending of the War

705
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: on rugs and all of the millions or billions of

706
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: dollars that the federal government is paid in the local municipalities.

707
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: If they are not going after cannabis users, if they

708
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: are not incarcerating, if they're not sending them their treatment centers,

709
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: if they're not going into you know, all of these things.

710
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: If they're not employing lawyers, if they're not employing bailiffs

711
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: and and court reporters, and the people that are working

712
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: in the jails, if if these if these people are

713
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: now displaced because cannabis people aren't taking up those beds,

714
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: and now there's job layoffs. That there's another problem, but

715
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: it's a problem the government caused by creating the narrative

716
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: and the danger around the understanding of what cannabis is,

717
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: and events like this start to dispel those lies and

718
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: the misinformation and start to give a new narrative of

719
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: what cannabis is and what the cannabis industry is, and

720
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: who the cannabis people are. If you look at the

721
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: people that are parts of these companies, these are engineers,

722
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: these are designers, these are mathematicians, lawyers, doctors, scis. So

723
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: it's a lot of edge. It's not stoner's and hippies.

724
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: It's people who consume a plant that is good for

725
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: them their lives, their families, their communities, and their pockets well.

726
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: And a lot of these people, to be honest, are

727
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: just like are starting to realize that they had their careers.

728
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: They were afraid to to come out of that green closet.

729
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: But then once the door kind of opened, it was like, yo,

730
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: I I thoroughly get this. Let's go full speed and

731
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: now we have I mean, I I there's plenty of investors, uh, bankers,

732
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, very intelligent people that are in this space

733
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: right now. But why is it a clog? Like I

734
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: I just you know, why isn't it just like because

735
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, is it is? It? Is it the jails?

736
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: Is it the jails? It's you know, No, I don't.

737
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't think many people are afraid of going to

738
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: jail for cannabis anymore anymore. I mean they're I mean

739
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: the people that are already incarcerator, the people that are

740
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: incarcerated pro we need to get them out. I mean,

741
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: if if I'm out here licensing a product to be

742
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: sold as cannabis and I'm not in jail yet, somebody

743
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: else who's doing or did the same fucking thing that

744
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: you know you're so ago. Forty years they're still in jail.

745
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: This is an absolute that's the fucking crime. Ignorance of

746
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: what this plant is is the fucking crime. And the

747
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: book that my father wrote, The Emperor Wears No Clothes,

748
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: the truth of cannabis and its history, is that catalyst

749
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: and has been since nineteen five and today in that

750
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: book is still just as relevant, just as powerful and

751
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: justice inspiring to tell people, to help people to understand

752
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: this plant, change their ideas, understand what cannabis is and

753
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: what it could be if it's used to its full utility.

754
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: So we're not just surviving in the future, but thriving

755
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: in it. And and by being able to look at

756
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: this information and understanding that this country would not exist

757
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: if it were not for cannabis. Every one of our

758
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: founding fathers grew it, every one of them used it,

759
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: every one of them, Thomas Jefferson smuggled it into this country. Okay,

760
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: and it was and it's a more sustainable product than

761
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: than all the other things that were and so and

762
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: that's what you know. It we can go into a

763
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: whole right, Jack, It's always great to have you on

764
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: the show with us. Man, thank you for hanging out

765
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: with us at the party. But I mean, it's just,

766
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, I want to give more credit because Mark,

767
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean calling him. I looked Jack today every other

768
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: day and I looked right at him, and I see Jack,

769
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: I probably Steve. I never take offense to it. I

770
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 1: know that I resemble my father yea at times, especially

771
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: when I started at the mouth, well right there. Yeah,

772
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: it was just so poetic and the true Dad's book.

773
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: And I just looked up and you have both Jack

774
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: Career on your hat. Had everyone I thought it was

775
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: your d pack, for God's sakes, But Dan, you know,

776
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: I know her name and I see all the time

777
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: that being said, you're a lot smarter than Mark Washerman

778
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: gave you credit for. And you talk a lot brighter

779
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: than that as he was telling me, I don't know

780
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: about this, damn guy, Joe kidding once again, I got

781
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: another great guest for always, and I just want to

782
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: know your thoughts so that we can get our backstroked

783
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: and padded. How did you have Did you have a

784
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: big time at the party, because you look like you're

785
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: having a black I had a great time and thank

786
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: you so much for all the access that you've got

787
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to all of the people that that I know and love.

788
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: And I will tell you I know we people that

789
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: where we're Dann, where we're Dan, I'm telling you that

790
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: pack Um has every reason to pretty much hate me.

791
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: At this point mentioned you at the club to that

792
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: go who's this Dann her? Oh no, exactly. It was

793
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: a great time come through. We met it. That's called

794
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: Big Willie South. Thank you for coming on the show

795
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: with us. Brother, it's Cannabis Talk one. Were right back

796
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: after this, Yes, we'll be right back with Cannabis Talk

797
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: one oh one. Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one,

798
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: Take a hit, get lit, sit back and enjoy Cannabis

799
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: Talk one oh one live right here at m j Biscon.

800
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: And let me tell you guys, we have a special guest, Joe.

801
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: We do have a special guest. And before we get

802
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: to them, I just gotta remind everybody if you're looking

803
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: to start growing, well, it all starts with a seed.

804
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: So head over the rocket seeds dot Com for a

805
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Speaker 1: trusted cannabis seed where thousands of clients around the world

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Speaker 1: fair price. Rocket seeds dot Com is the website. Now.

809
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: This guest that we're having on the show right now,

810
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: Brian Gray's he's actually the president and CEO of Rotary

811
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Garden Hydroponics North America. You can find them on Instagram

812
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: at Rotary Garden Underscore n A for North America. Brian Gray,

813
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. Brother, Thank you,

814
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. I'm I'm

815
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: really excited to be here for a couple of different reasons,

816
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: and one of them is seeing an old friend Joe here,

817
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: but um and seeing you guys do this podcast here

818
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: at the m J BIZ is exciting for us, especially

819
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: launching our Rotary Garden and what is exactly Rotarygarden. Well,

820
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: right now we have its technology where we're doing cultivation,

821
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: indoor cultivation at its best. Um, we're turning a new

822
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: leaf into in the hydroproducts where you know, um, we

823
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: get lesser less time for cultivation, more energy consumption, more.

824
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: You know, when you say less time cultivation, how how

825
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: how less time? How does it even work? Ten weeks?

826
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: Ten weeks less in ten weeks time, you're gonna have

827
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: a full harvest. What Yeah, and it's less energy? Is

828
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: this like the Incredibles or something? Look what are you

829
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: making over there when you said that, I just took

830
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: a Disney movie German engineer. This German engineer. So I mean,

831
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: how did you come up with this technology? And so

832
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: my partners did, Canadtop they're based out of Berlin. Was

833
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: where are our main offices out of but um, they're

834
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: down in your way right now. And Argentina where they're

835
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: building out for the government for these they've been Actually,

836
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: this technology hasn't been new. It's not new. It's been

837
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: around for a long time, just not to the U S.

838
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: It's just not to the U S or the innovation

839
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: that comes with it now with the computer programs and

840
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: all that stuff that goes. So run us by it,

841
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: like through it on a on a play by play, Right,

842
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: how do use it? How does it work? Like you know,

843
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: imagine you're sitting there with your eyes closed and just

844
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: like us exactly, let's take a look on the inside

845
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, on the inside, you're gonna have an

846
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: eleven foot light bar led light bar, and around that

847
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: light bar there's going to be a drum. Some of

848
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: the drum with gutters. If you look at the roof

849
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: of a house, those gutters like that, it's just like that.

850
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: There's gonna be sixteen of those around this eleven foot gutter.

851
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: And there's twenty spots for rock wool cubes to sit

852
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: in there for your plants to grow. So each machine

853
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: will carry three cannabis plants and in ten weeks time

854
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: you'll have a harvest of I don't wanna, don't hold

855
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: me on this one, but close to forty pounds per harvest,

856
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: seventy square feet of space, no way. So it's and

857
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: they're stackable, and they're stackable, I can and ten thousand

858
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: square feet. I can make forty square feet by stocking

859
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: them in a in a place with a roof. This

860
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: high building right here, that big building you can stack

861
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: for you can probably stack about four of them in here.

862
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: You know, we're like in a cost CoA style build.

863
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: So this is a big machine. It's industrial size. It's

864
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: for the industrial grower. You know, um, you know, you

865
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: know we're doing We know that the cannabis side we're

866
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna really win on because where our partners are at

867
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: the University of Hohenheim out of Germany Stubargard, Germany. They're

868
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: a government university that actually grades your your products or

869
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: agriculturally for the the EU. And so they've been our

870
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: partners now for going on a year. They're gonna be

871
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: our partners for the next two years. But we already

872
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: passed with flying colors. I got all the test results

873
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: back on everything, So everything that I'm saying is actually

874
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: proven and I can go ahead and get the records

875
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: for and say, look, this is what we're doing. Dope

876
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: to see your brother from San Jose and doing some

877
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: big things international like this and in a spot that

878
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: you're really trying to grow some product. And let's just

879
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: facing folks, it saves you tons of money, tons of time,

880
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: and time is money. Time is money. You know when

881
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: you say this, Okay, like let's just say that the

882
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: plants weren't in there? Can I stand in it? I mean,

883
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: or do You're not? You're not gonna be in it

884
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: from the gutter, from the gutter to the light tip.

885
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: It's so you're looking at especially if you're doing like

886
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: with different genetics and all that we're looking for, like

887
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: the gen x that are going to be like it's

888
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: almost it rotates around the light. So it's always it's

889
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: called geotropicism when your plants will but gravitational pool will

890
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: make your plants rotate around and get bigger, faster, stronger,

891
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: almost like their own steroids from that time of growth.

892
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: And that's where you're you're starting to get the most

893
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: out of your yield. You know, it's a consistency and

894
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: it's scientic and and honestly, like you know, it makes

895
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: sense right because you're looking for motion and a lot

896
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: of people don't realize that. You know, a stagnant room

897
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: is not really healthy the plants, right, they need a

898
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: natural environment which which gives movement in motion. So so

899
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: this technology is actually the gravitational is allowing it to

900
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: actually is that what makes it grow faster? Yes? And

901
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: that's what do you have the data on. Man, it's

902
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: funny that new data like that turns it out because

903
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: Blue being a you know, the legacy guy, your dad,

904
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: you doing it having rooms of growth? Can you imagine

905
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: the game that we've learned and this and that if

906
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: you to start growing. I mean you've got like a

907
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: little micro grow personal one at your house now. But

908
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: it's like these things and technology like Brian's talking about,

909
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: or I believe game changers for the industry, but for

910
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: the legacy folks, you gotta be like. And I say

911
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: you gotta be blue because you gotta be like. And

912
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: as I could tell by the way you're acting, your

913
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: geeks like what what? Well? How who wrote it? Well?

914
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm from the Emerald Triangle. I live up in Santa

915
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: Rosa and Snowma kind of, so I go to the

916
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: Emerald Cup and all these and and I know all

917
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: my farmers how they cultivate, you know, traditionally right now

918
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: they're on flats, and so if I can give you

919
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: a better better description for if we were doing hps

920
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: six sixps is gonna be five compared to ten. Now

921
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: are you do you have your own lighting as well? Yes,

922
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: we do. We actually we use we use our partner's

923
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: Planet Lux out of Germany. You know, I want to

924
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: give a shot off the Planet Lux Planet Lux out

925
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: there lighting there. Um, we've been utilizing them now since

926
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: the beginning and we haven't had any issues whatsoever. Now,

927
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: what kind of energy does this thing draw? I mean,

928
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: you're talking about an industrial so we're talking one just

929
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: a very very simple where you l certified. We're g

930
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: MP certified, which means good Man Good Manufacturing Practices. UM,

931
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: we're EU certified. So we have all of the certifications

932
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: coming into this out the gates, so we don't have

933
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: any problems, you know. So we have the university, we

934
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: have all our licensing, we have all of our certifications

935
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: that says that this is going to be the new

936
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: wave of technology and cultivation. Wow, you're just setting up,

937
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: are you guys? Hearing m J bisconn right now with

938
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: the whole display. I just came. I came because a

939
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: couple of investors want to see me here, and they're

940
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: all gonna be here at one time. So I just

941
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: flew out here just to come meet those guys. And well,

942
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I new Cash. I met Cash up at the Hall

943
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: of Flowers when you guys were up the Hall of Flowers.

944
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: So I met him there and then we've got into

945
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: talking and I've seen you, I said, I said, does

946
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: that is that big Joel? Heay? So to tell these

947
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: cats Ryan that early story and walk us through because

948
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: I've heard so good. But when how old you were

949
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: when I scarred you for life? I think I was

950
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: like sixteen years old or fifteen or sixteen. I was.

951
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: I was just my cousin was taking me around as

952
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: a kid, falling these guys around. And you know one

953
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: thing I gotta say is the other hard You guys

954
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: are the hardest working sons of digitism show biz. Because

955
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: I remember you, you worked very very hard to get

956
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: to where you're at. I'm proud of you, man, So

957
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: I gotta give you a big salute for where you're

958
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: at right now. You know, it was really good. I listen,

959
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: I've seen this man come up. This bat came from

960
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: the bottom. He started from the bottom. Now he's here. Yeah,

961
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: look at all of our work, not just mine. This

962
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: guy invented it. This guy's the pop Brothers, that law,

963
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: it's the teamwork, pitch over there making it happen. Cal Jennifer, Erica, Daniel, everybody.

964
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: You want to hear a story about Joe. Yes, okay,

965
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: So this is going to include a young lady rest

966
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: in peace, Leah, and this is this is great. So

967
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: we were in San Jose after Arena where the Sharks

968
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: play at and it was a concert and I don't

969
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: know what station you were with at the nine. Yes,

970
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: you're with Wildne four nine at the time, and they're

971
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: throwing a big concert for Leah, for just tons of artists,

972
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: but Joe. It was Joe's birthday that weekend, right, so

973
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: they're all getting together. They're Joe, we got something for you.

974
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: And I didn't know what they were gonna do. I'm

975
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: just like bopping my head. I'm like what. They had

976
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: him laid down across the stage. They laid down. Somebody

977
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: goes to see me, you have birthday. Well, Leah comes

978
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: out to see her have birthday. But they put a

979
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: candle on Jill's rumpus when I laid down on the stage.

980
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: Yes that I didn't want to. I didn't want to

981
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: bring the X ray one Hunter here dog, you know,

982
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: on it or in it? No, in it open? He

983
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: stayed it was in it was There was a candlestick.

984
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: So so he let me ask you this watch it.

985
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Because I don't actually talk I can't remember talking to

986
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: somebody in the last twenty seven years about the story

987
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: who was actually in the audience. Right, So when you're

988
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: in the audience as a sixteen year old kid and

989
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: you see this three hundred pound man kicked off his

990
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: shirt with orange hair because at that time I had

991
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: orange hair, is silver Front, Dune, the Nose Ring, Bleach,

992
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Stye Browse. I mean I was a rock star, right,

993
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: so you know exactly that big up there, right, So

994
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: as you're seeing that guy, big Joe up there take

995
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: his shirt off and then I go down and I

996
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: get butt naked on stage. But what are you thinking

997
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: watching my kid? I'm like, wow, this, I didn't know

998
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 1: they were going to do this. You know what I'm saying.

999
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: I did not know they're gonna do this. I'm like, hey,

1000
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: I didn't buy a ticket to this. But I'm like,

1001
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this is interesting, you know I'm saying.

1002
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: As a kid, I'm like, well, is he really gonna

1003
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 1: do something like that on the stage? Like sure enough,

1004
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: Eliah comes out. Aliah comes out recipe and Joe was

1005
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: laying there and you know what's funny that you said

1006
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: the orange hair? He did have orange hair. He did

1007
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: that and he lays out across stage and they single

1008
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: happy Birthday and she blows out the candle. Was God.

1009
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Eliah blew out the candle out of Joe's ass. He

1010
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: was naked on stage. You know what's crazy is he

1011
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: has a picture and got office. He just got a

1012
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: picture of this dude in the office of her. Actually

1013
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: they're blowing it out and you can see the picture.

1014
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: We gotta put this in the end, and I gotta

1015
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: say this to you. There is the picture. And so

1016
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: when when I seen this picture, I'm all, it's that

1017
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: bit Joe to have the candle is ask They're like,

1018
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: what the funnier thing is too? When they came to

1019
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: find me, they were like, hold on, Joe, we got

1020
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: cash was on the phone with you, and so was

1021
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: Solar that got they got somebody on the phone. And

1022
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: his first comment to me was who brew a candle

1023
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: out for you on your birthday? And I was like,

1024
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: wait a minute, where are you from the Bay? You

1025
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: know it? And I go, oh my god, Aleah blew

1026
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: a candle out for me on my birthday. Just for

1027
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: him to ask me, who blew out a candle for

1028
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: you on your birthday? No one's gonna say something like that.

1029
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's that's that's called name recognition. Joe Brande

1030
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: Eliah candle goiggle it. It's a good thing. And speaking

1031
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: of game recognition, Rotary Garden Hydroponics, North America, that's game

1032
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: recognition because of what you're doing. Brian is game changer.

1033
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: And I appreciate the history of you being a young

1034
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: lad coming to the concert, supporting my road and radio

1035
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: and this and that. And I'm seeing me and and

1036
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that I see a fellow Bay Area

1037
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, doing his thing and

1038
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: doing them with the equitable partner. Exactly equitable partner. It's

1039
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: just take I take my head out to you, and

1040
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: I want to give you that props and shine and

1041
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: say we're proud of you as well. You know. I mean,

1042
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: we've come somewhere, but you're definitely been somewhere and going,

1043
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: you know. And and I hope to hope to you know,

1044
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: continue on with this relationship as we're UM, you know,

1045
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: a young company growing and we want to be you know,

1046
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: right next to you guys, and you guys are growing

1047
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: too as well, and support each other in our endeavors

1048
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: because we'll be at a lot of the shows you

1049
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: guys will be at, like we will be at UM

1050
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Emerald Cup this year. UM have a booth there and

1051
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: what actually the machines will be here in November so

1052
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: that way we can actually have it physically running and

1053
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: then we're gonna go on to the next level. What

1054
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: is one of these machines cost? I mean, you know

1055
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: is it is it? It's it's actually it's really feasible,

1056
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 1: really feasible. We're looking in where upwards of forty dollars

1057
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: of unit, it's not bad. And how many produced? Approximately

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,479
Speaker 1: forty many? How many plants? Again, three plants are held

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00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: inside of the rotary gard and hydro product machine and

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00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: in ten weeks times six less energy, fifty percent less water,

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00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna produce about forty pounds so and that and

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: that's that's cured. That's not wet weight. What I'm talking

1063
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: about cured. So you're getting fifty eight grams cured. That's

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00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: what I have on the data sheet from Howenheim. So

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00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: we like I already took off all the stick stems

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00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: and and and wet weight the whole nine yards. You're

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00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: getting fifty eight grams per plant. Every hard to do

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00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: you guys give do you guys give them like a

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00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: feeding schedule to go with that. So so they're actually

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00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: rotary Regarden comes with these um with these computer programs

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: in there, because they're automated. It's almost like a I

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00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: assisted We have a system called i Q grow that

1073
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: goes in the It gives you all the seat to

1074
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: sell that to tell you exactly what to sell in

1075
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: your environment. You know what it's gonna take. And it

1076
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: has a nutrient program as well that feeds it automatically,

1077
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: so the nutrient um, the nutrient software coming out of

1078
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: Germany will tell you exactly what nutrients to put in

1079
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: there for the best comes with the whole and it

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00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: comes and you also get a service too, because we

1081
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: are also going to walk you through the whole protraining training.

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00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: We don't we don't want to leave anybody behind, especially

1083
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: with new technology like this coming to the States. It's

1084
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: really hard to get people to brand onto your brand,

1085
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: so we want to make sure that they know that

1086
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna be with them every step of the way.

1087
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: So it's Ho and him. So it's Canada Top and

1088
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 1: all of us. We come with the back. Well, where

1089
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: can they find you online? Www? Dot Rotary Garden u

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Speaker 1: s A dot com. That's where we're at. Um see

1091
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: me Rotary Gard Hydro Products USA dot com. Come see us,

1092
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Speaker 1: check us out. It's kind of long, but once you

1093
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: get there, you'll love it. Oh, not only that you're

1094
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna love the products at the end for that quicker time.

1095
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: I see Blue getting out expert here on the panel.

1096
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: He's a grower and a shower, and the guy might

1097
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I see this brand going how much? Because I pick

1098
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: that in my garage. Probably you can't have said the

1099
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: size of suv. You can. You can have it price

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00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: and then I can put four in there. Absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You know. The crazy thing is is like when I

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Speaker 1: when I started doing the numbers and I was I

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00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: was looking at what it was producing, and it started

1104
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: saying metric ton. After you get to like twenty machines, Like, well,

1105
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: three four machines is one canopy acre, you know what

1106
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So instead of the instead of going out

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00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: into the field harvesting light deep or outdoor, three d

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00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: four of these is one canny acre and you're pulling

1109
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: metric tons out instantly. It's a product. You want to

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Speaker 1: go check out Rotary Gardens Hydroponics North America. It is

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