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Speaker 2: He was told to stick it. We'll explain that in

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Speaker 2: just about a minute. But right now it's time to

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Speaker 2: say good morning everybody. Yes, it's that time. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy from and you

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Speaker 2: know what. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 2: and away we go. Let me introduce my partner, my friend,

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Speaker 2: the man who lives for football, coaches it, he writes

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Speaker 2: it on TV, it talks about it with me on radio.

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Speaker 2: They're one and only Bucky Brooks Buck How are you?

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Speaker 2: How is your week? Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: I am ready. It's been a great week.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready and it's a lot of fun. Football season

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Speaker 3: is almost here.

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Speaker 2: Well you say that it is a great week. What

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Speaker 2: made it so great? Because I like to know maybe

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Speaker 2: I could do the same thing next week for myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, now it's a great week.

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Speaker 3: We had the end of the preseason, high school stuff,

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Speaker 3: football kicked off, we had college football over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean football is in full swing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it certainly is. I mean, you know it's here,

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Speaker 2: but really it's not here because you know, when you

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Speaker 2: have the game in Ireland it's not really here. And

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Speaker 2: then college football started yesterday Iowa State Kansas State. You know, look,

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Speaker 2: it was a great game because it came down to

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Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty one. Iowa State beats up on

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Speaker 2: Kansas State five in the last six years. They want

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Speaker 2: again yesterday Matt Campbell doing a pretty good job at

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Speaker 2: Iowa State. But you know, really and truly, the game

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Speaker 2: was good and it was riveting, but really, they could

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Speaker 2: have gotten more of a headliner to go out there

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Speaker 2: to play, like I think Notre Dame should go there

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Speaker 2: every year. Notre Dame belongs in Ireland. But again, they

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Speaker 2: could have picked better headliners. But I guess the people

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Speaker 2: in Dublin don't even know any better. They see football,

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Speaker 2: they see college football. They're gonna go, right. And half

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Speaker 3: I mean, we don't want the little guys to go.

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Speaker 3: We don't want Iowa State in Kansas State. We don't

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Speaker 3: want them to have an opportunity. We just want big

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Speaker 3: mighty Notre Dame to always go. Let some of the

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Speaker 2: Look, it's okay for those guys to go and get

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Speaker 2: it doesn't thrill me. You know, if I'm a real

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Speaker 2: Kansas State Iowa State, it's not a headliner. Notre Dame's

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Speaker 2: come on, but they went because it's an event. That's

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Speaker 2: why they don't know better. I don't think they do.

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Speaker 1: No, they do. I mean, they certainly went.

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Speaker 3: And what was great about it when you look to

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Speaker 3: The a play was kind of slow for maybe three quarters,

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Speaker 1: Fourth quarter, But overall, what he did it.

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Speaker 3: Signaled the beginning of the college football season, which is far.

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Speaker 1: More exciting than just the single one game.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell me about this quarterback, Rock Quebec from Iowa State,

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Speaker 2: I think the key to the game was Iowa State

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Speaker 1: They won.

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Speaker 2: They won the ball game. That was the game right there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, really that was a game, and it

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Speaker 3: Rock Leebec, the son of Anthony Beck, former first round

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Speaker 3: And I'm a Matt Campbell fan. I think he's one

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Speaker 3: most with the least. In last year, Iowa State one

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Speaker 3: They certainly didn't disappoint, and give State credit, their defense

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Speaker 1: They just made far too many mistakes to win a game.

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Speaker 2: Though Matt Campbell has done a pretty good job over there.

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Speaker 2: But SoSE Iowa stayed right now, you know they're going

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Speaker 1: He has a blueprint and a formula that works.

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Speaker 3: It continues to work at Iowa State, and even though

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Speaker 2: You know. I gotta believe if you're an athletic director

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I mean I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: Of kid and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 3: So I think it worked for him because the blueprint

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Speaker 3: But I just know watching him operate at Toledo and

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got to move away because I'm tired of

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Speaker 2: The story of the day yesterday was basically Shudoor Sanders.

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Speaker 2: He was sacked five times. What happened to Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: Well, it's the story because he's box office.

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Speaker 3: great performance for him. Was the worst performance that we've

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel has an opportunity to play his second chance

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Speaker 2: Okay, should Sander's yesterday was just three or six fourteen

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Speaker 1: As the next man up behind.

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Speaker 1: Trust in those things.

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Speaker 3: Because of the trust factor, Kevin Stevanski probably wants the

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Speaker 2: All right now. Now, if you think your door Sanders

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Speaker 2: It's about a soap opera. I mean, you got your

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Speaker 4: We wanted to send the details to the agent the

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Speaker 2: That was Jerry Jones on Michael Irving's podcast saying that

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Speaker 2: we agree to that. I know that, however, whoever signed

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Speaker 1: He's trying to squash the little person. He's trying to

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Speaker 3: He's almost trying to bust the union and the way

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Speaker 1: But what they're.

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Speaker 2: That, right, So I'm onto something a little bit over here,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he could say whatever, but the deal is

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Speaker 1: But there are a couple of things that matter in negotiation.

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Speaker 1: To do the deal, they can get the deal done.

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Speaker 3: I think there's more at play than just a Michael

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, right, Dan. I can't believe people still

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Speaker 1: Look at them.

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Speaker 1: It's all business.

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. But let me run this by you before

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Speaker 2: we let you know that s Bucky's going to be

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Speaker 2: in about ten twelve minutes from now. This trade that

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Speaker 2: happened the other day when the Kansas City Chiefs when

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Speaker 2: they traded Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins. I was

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two. They wanted to replace him

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Speaker 2: in the draft and they drafted this kid, sky Moore

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Speaker 2: out of Western Michigan. Didn't work out, so sky Moore

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Speaker 2: was traded the other day to the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this last week at the forty nine

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Speaker 2: ers decimated they need receivers and we thought that they'd

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Speaker 2: go after Odell Beckham. You know, at least I did.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you were with me in that,

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Speaker 2: but I thought they would. So they trade him. So

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Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers got sky Moore. The Chiefs get

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Speaker 2: a sixth round pick, and this sky Moore really and

491
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Speaker 2: truly didn't turn out to do as they thought he

492
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Speaker 2: would do. He didn't live up to the hype. But

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Speaker 2: again I always believe that sometimes you have to look

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Speaker 2: at the pedigree. You know, the guys at Western Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, it's not big time. But

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Speaker 2: to me, if I have a choice to drafting a

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Speaker 2: kid out of Ohio State and Western Michigan, I'm going

498
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Speaker 2: to Ohio State. Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: I would say this Ron Wolf Hall of Fame executive

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Speaker 3: who led the green Beer package to the Super Bowl,

501
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Speaker 3: used to talk about big school guys and small school guys,

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Speaker 3: and he would prefer to go after big school guys

503
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Speaker 3: because if you're looking at the potential into projection, it

504
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Speaker 3: is easy to project someone who is playing against the

505
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Speaker 3: best of the best what they're going to be in

506
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Speaker 3: the National Football League than someone who is not playing

507
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Speaker 3: against the highest level of competition in those things. No

508
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Speaker 3: disrespect for those guys, but he just said, for him,

509
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Speaker 3: he always believed in big school guys because the odds

510
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Speaker 3: of finding the diamond the rough don't it isn't weigh

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Speaker 3: in your favor to do that.

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Speaker 1: You're more likely.

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Speaker 3: To find a guy at at an elite level playing

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Speaker 3: at a big school than you are to find someone

515
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Speaker 3: who overcomes it in this situation. I think it came

516
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Speaker 3: true with Scott Moore. Somemore is a great player Western Michigan,

517
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Speaker 3: terrific playmaker and all those things.

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Speaker 1: It just didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean he still can't find his way, but it

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Speaker 3: hasn't worked out to date. And for me, I tend

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Speaker 3: to opt for big school players, players that are playing

522
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Speaker 3: in big conferences, big games, those things, just because I

523
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Speaker 3: feel like it's an easier evaluation than looking at someone

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Speaker 3: that's coming from a lower level of competition.

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Speaker 2: Well, we finally agree on something. I like to hear

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Speaker 2: you say that. And speaking of big conferences at big

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Speaker 2: school conferences, talk about the Southeastern Conference, the SEC, the

528
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Speaker 2: athletic director is there. They now have adopted a nine

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Speaker 2: game conference football schedule starting in the twenty six to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven season. They say it's going to be good

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Speaker 2: to balance the competition and preserve rivalries. How is it

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Speaker 2: going to balance the competition? Help me out with that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, are you in favor of this nine game

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Speaker 2: conference schedule. I understand that in the past the SEC

535
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Speaker 2: they would play some real good cupcakes in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the schedule, and I had no problem with that

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Speaker 2: really because they beat the heck out of each other

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Speaker 2: during the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I don't really have a strong opinion

540
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Speaker 3: on it either way, but they were saying they want

541
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Speaker 3: to level the playing field and compete with the Big

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Speaker 3: ten in terms of like nine name schedule, not having

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Speaker 3: the cupcakes in there, because when you talk about the

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Speaker 3: playoff field, you want to be able to look and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: these resumes are similar.

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Speaker 1: Let's do the pros and cons.

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Speaker 3: Let's make sure that everyone is kind of being asked

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Speaker 3: to do the same things within their conferences that we

549
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Speaker 3: can level it out and make a decision that is

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Speaker 3: it's fair and balance in those things.

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Speaker 1: So I get it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't I understand why they push forward, but it

553
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Speaker 3: doesn't really matter to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter to me, I guess it. They're

555
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Speaker 2: at this, and I guess maybe it matters to the fans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, But the ACC now is the only

557
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Speaker 2: power conference left with an eight game schedule. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: play nine games now you need like a slide rule

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Speaker 2: here to figure this out. So I'm gonna go real

560
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Speaker 2: slow here. Maybe maybe it'll finally get into my brain.

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Speaker 2: Under this new format, each team in the SEC, they're

562
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Speaker 2: gonna play three permanent conference opponents. Okay, I get that,

563
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Speaker 2: because those are the rivalries, I guess, and they're gonna

564
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: rotate through six others every season. Teams are gonna face

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Speaker 2: every other SEC team at least once every two years,

566
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Speaker 2: and every opponent at home and away every four years.

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Speaker 2: You know, really and truly, I don't know who makes

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Speaker 2: this up, but I just read that. I still can't

569
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Speaker 2: figure it out. I mean, I don't get it. Additionally,

570
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Speaker 2: each team is required schedule at least one power for

571
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Speaker 2: non conference opponent or Notre Dame every season. Do you

572
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Speaker 2: get that? I mean, you know, when I see the schedule,

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Speaker 2: I'll get it. But right now reading that, I'm really confused.

574
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Speaker 2: I am, I admit it. Well, I'm not that.

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Speaker 1: I would look. I would say.

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Speaker 3: What they're doing is they're trying to just put some

577
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: basic permembrance in place, like, ay, pick your three rivals

578
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: that are your games that you want to play every year,

579
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Speaker 3: then there'll be a rotating situation, much like the National

580
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Speaker 3: Football League is just thinking about this as within the conference,

581
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Speaker 3: like having divisional games, So you got three divisional games

582
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: that you know you're always gonna see, and then it

583
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 3: rotates based on a formula that they'll create to make

584
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Speaker 3: sure that every SEC team is eventually seen in a

585
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: reasonable period three or four years and those things. But

586
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: when the conference is so big, you can't play everybody

587
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Speaker 3: every year. So this is their way of just kind

588
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: of creating a scheduling formula that allows eighties and those

589
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: things to maximize the revenue that can be built by having,

590
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Speaker 3: you know, ticket sales and those things, giving you the

591
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Speaker 3: markeee games that you want, while also trying to make

592
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Speaker 3: it fair for everybody.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's pull back the curtain now and we talked

594
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Speaker 2: about the obviously what's happening, but now let's figure out why.

595
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: Let's figure this out. First of all, the coaches say

596
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Speaker 2: that concern because they added games increased physical demands. I mean,

597
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 2: come on, that's just a lot of garbage. Because the

598
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Speaker 2: coaches are saying that because they didn't want to play

599
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Speaker 2: it the tougher schedule. That's why they're saying that there's

600
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: always physical demands in football. Right, We've seen that all

601
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Speaker 2: the time, so that I don't believe any of that stuff. Right,

602
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: you agree with me there, I'm sure.

603
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Speaker 3: I mean that is true. Like sometimes you do want

604
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Speaker 3: to break game. You don't want to play all heavy hitters.

605
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Speaker 3: You do want a game where you can breathe knowing that, Okay,

606
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: we're gonna win this game, but we want to get

607
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: some things work done. Yeah, every coach wants that.

608
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Speaker 2: Okay, now you've got to see to yourself. Well, let

609
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Speaker 2: me scratch my heads then figure out why would the

610
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Speaker 2: SEC want to do something like this. Well, they did

611
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: it because the last two years the Big Ten won

612
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Speaker 2: the national titles. Really because everybody said the SEC is

613
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: the cream of the crop of college football, and it's

614
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: a great conference. It is, But the last two years

615
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: the national championship was won by a Big Ten school,

616
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Speaker 2: So what do they do. They needed to increase their

617
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: record strength. That's why they did it. Because they want

618
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: to show I guess the committee that they're playing tougher

619
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Speaker 2: schools so they could get more teams perhaps in the

620
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Speaker 2: college football playoff period. That's why they did it.

621
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Speaker 3: I mean some of that, but some of that is

622
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 3: yet you want to have that legitimate argument with the

623
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Speaker 3: Big Ten. If we're on level ground, well, then if

624
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Speaker 3: you're don't give the Big Ten for spots, you need

625
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: to give us four because we're the same deal. And

626
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: no matter what people say about which conference is the best,

627
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: most football people will tell you that the SEC is

628
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 3: the best conference in football and they deserve to have

629
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Speaker 3: more bites at the apple. Given the depth and the

630
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Speaker 3: talent within that conference. The Big Ten is right there

631
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Speaker 3: with them. If you want to say one A and

632
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Speaker 3: one B, those are the two power conferences. Now the

633
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: rest A and some of the others, they got to

634
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: catch up, and they have to catch up by not

635
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: only the CC putting that ninth game on the schedule,

636
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: but they got to show up in the non league

637
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: games to enter sectional games. They have to show up

638
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: and show out and win some of those games so

639
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Speaker 3: they can earn their respect.

640
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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you think the SEC move is nuts,

641
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: which I don't know if it is or now, I mean,

642
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: time will tell. The commissioner of the Big Ten wants

643
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Speaker 2: to include seven seven automatic bids for the Big Ten

644
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Speaker 2: and the SEC, and he wants teams maybe with seven

645
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: and five records in the conference for the college football playoffs. Okay,

646
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: so this is what he basically is saying. He wants

647
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: to get every eight and four Big Ten team into

648
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs finish at eight and four, and his latest idea,

649
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: according to multiple reports, that he wants to expand the tournament.

650
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Get this, he wants to expand the college football playoff

651
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: tournament field to as many as twenty eight teams and

652
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Speaker 2: include as many as seven automatic bids a piece for

653
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten and the SEC twenty eight teams. I mean,

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00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: come on, I mean I think that, well, basketball tournament's

655
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: too many now were with sixty four.

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Speaker 1: No, But here's what we're doing.

657
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Speaker 3: What we're doing is we're trying to eliminate the bowls season,

658
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: right because the bold season is a dud. I understand

659
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: that ESPN and those companies make money off of Bowls,

660
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: but no one shows up and no one.

661
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Plays their players.

662
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: When you look at every level beneath the top level,

663
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: they all have a playoff system. Those playoffs can go

664
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Speaker 3: anywhere from sixteen to twenty four teams, and people tune in.

665
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: What they're basically trying to replicate is if we're going

666
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Speaker 3: to have playoffs like every state has playoffs in high school.

667
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 3: Why not have a real playoff system and that would

668
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: create a real playoff system where you have a real

669
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Speaker 3: champion based off of what happens on the grass instead.

670
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Speaker 1: Of the computers and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually in favor of that because I think it

672
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: has always made more sense to have a true playoff.

673
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Speaker 1: Than they have the bowl games and all this other stuff.

674
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: Like, you have two different things happening at once, and

675
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: it doesn't job.

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Speaker 1: You can't have playoffs and then bowl games. It just doesn't.

677
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matchup.

678
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't. You know, you're right, it doesn't make any sense.

679
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of tradition there with the

680
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl and things like that, but there's somewhat meaningless

681
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: right now. And you hit it right on the head

682
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: when you said most of the big time players opt

683
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: out of those games, and I don't want to play

684
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: for fear of getting hurt and hurting them opportunities to

685
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: get drafted in the pros to the next level.

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Speaker 1: You're right, it doesn't.

687
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Speaker 3: So if you want to better, say you want to

688
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: see better games, then then go to a true playoff system.

689
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 3: And a true playoff system will allow you to see

690
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: some of the compelling matchups, and everyone's will talk about what.

691
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: The first run games are going to be boring. But

692
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: each and every.

693
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: Week we see upsets in college football, So who's to

694
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: say that we won't see upsets in the playoff round.

695
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: If you have the best twenty to twenty four teams

696
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: in the tournament, I am in favor of that more

697
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: so than continue to go with the bowl games and

698
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: all this other stuff that no one is really paying

699
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Speaker 3: attention to.

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Speaker 2: You always open my eyes to something when I didn't

701
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: realize that. Because when I say when they say they

702
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: won't to open up to twenty eight teams, I say

703
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: to myself, well, you got a team like Rutgers which

704
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: was seven and five, and they may go to the

705
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: college football playoffs. But then again, if you win six

706
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: plus games, you going to a bowl. So instead of

707
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Speaker 2: going to a bowl, you go to the college football playoff.

708
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: It makes sense now now I'm seeing the picture, and

709
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: you're right, it does make a lot of sense. It's

710
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: not gonna do anything at all for Ohio State or

711
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Michigan because they're going anywhere, but it's gonna help the

712
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: lower echelons of these of these conferences. Those teams which

713
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: probably are vine to get just six wins to go

714
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: to a bowl game. But if you eliminate the bowl games,

715
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: which they didn't mention, but that's going to eventually happen,

716
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: eliminate the bowl games, then I could see it happening.

717
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Speaker 2: So you're right, you're right on with that.

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00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's gonna be a better

719
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: overall product, and eventually it would get to that because

720
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Speaker 3: as we're seeing college football make that transfer, college sports

721
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Speaker 3: make transformation to.

722
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Speaker 1: The pro game and mimic the pro model.

723
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: We go see more of their playoffs and those situations

724
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: look more like the pros, and some of the traditional

725
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: things like bowl games and others are gonna fall by

726
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Speaker 3: the wayside.

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Speaker 6: minutes before the top of the hour. This is Fox

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Speaker 6: Sports Sunday and Fox Sportsreta. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm

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Speaker 6: Andy Furman, and we're live the Fox. But it's radio studio.

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Speaker 2: So it is time for Bucky books. That means only

746
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: one thing. It's also time for ld Little Dumper. So

747
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: Little Dump are you ready?

748
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: Oh?

749
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 8: I am ready, And I got some NFL I got

750
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 8: an NFL question for your Bucky. So we are in

751
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 8: the midst of, you know, finishing off NFL preseason. You know,

752
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 8: finally roster cuts are coming down, all that good stuff.

753
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 8: It's not gonna be about rosters, but gonna be about QBS.

754
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 8: So a couple of days ago, we saw Jackson Dart

755
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 8: ball out. I mean, you know, he looked phenomenal right

756
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 8: in for the Giants. Do you think that? Do you

757
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 8: really think Jackson Dart will be your starter like legit

758
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 8: within the first three weeks of the Giants? What do

759
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 8: you think not the.

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00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: First three weeks of the season, but I do believe

761
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: he'll be the starter for more games than Russell Wilson

762
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: would be. When you look at Jackson Dart in the preseason,

763
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: you get this Josh Allen vibe that Blind Daboll had

764
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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen in Buffalo. So it's only amount of time,

765
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: But Jackson Dart is going to be the starting quarterback

766
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Speaker 3: for the New York Giants this season.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, all right, I got something for you, Bucky Brooks.

768
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: You already former Bengals speaking to quarterbacks. Former Bengals quarterback

769
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: Boomer Sison. He's in the team's Ring of honor CINCINNTI

770
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: Bengals Ring of Honor. He was invited to attend this

771
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: year's ceremony, but he was told to pay his own

772
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: way and his own hotel bill. What are your thoughts

773
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: about that?

774
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: Are you surprised? I mean, the Bengals, this is what

775
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: they do.

776
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: They watched the bottom line. I'm not surprised, but look,

777
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 3: I hate it for Boomer Siason. He's a legend, and

778
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 3: when you are going to honor a legend, you should

779
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: roll out the red carpet. I wouldn't consider this to

780
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: be rolling out the red carpet. But I'm certainly not

781
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: surprised because this is how the Bengals have always done business.

782
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: I mean, on the you know, let me just continue

783
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: on this for just a second, on the heels of

784
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: this Trey Hendrickson situation where they're not signing him and

785
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: to announce the ring of honor and say, Boomer, we've

786
00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: left to have you here, but you gotta pay your

787
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: own way and will give you a discount deal on

788
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 2: hotel room. I mean, come on, how I mean, don't

789
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: you think other owners in the league laugh at that

790
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: when they read that and hear about that.

791
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, because I think this is what

792
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: we have to understand. Some people are running sports teams

793
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 3: with a desire to win championships. Some people are running

794
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: their teams with have desired to make it a big business.

795
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: The Bengals are operating this. It's the business.

796
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: They don't have generational wealth because of independent businesses.

797
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: They have it because of the team.

798
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Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised, you know, let me just throw

799
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: something else in there. I mean to me, not only

800
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: are you kind of concerned, maybe you're not concerned. They're

801
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: concerned about your owners and your people you work with

802
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: in and around the league. But in the same city.

803
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: This year, the Cincinnati Reds baseball team honored the fiftieth

804
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: year of the Big Red Machine nineteen seventy five, and

805
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: they flew in all the members of the Big Red Machine,

806
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: obviously the living members. They flew them into Cincinnati to

807
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: put them up in a hotel and the Reds paid

808
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: for that. And you know, and now the Bengals are

809
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: doing this and it's not a group of players, it's

810
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: just Boom or Siasin. Really, I mean, come on to me,

811
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: it's just embarrassing knowing that the other team in town

812
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: is doing something similar and they're picking up the tab

813
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: and you're not that to me, it's very embarrassing to me,

814
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: I think, yeah.

815
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it can be embarrassing because look, two

816
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: different teams operating with a different premise. This Cincinnati Reds

817
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: want to be first class. That's where they're taking care

818
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: of their people. The Bengals don't. And the Bengals have

819
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 3: it and they don't care. This is what they do.

820
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they've always done it, as you know former Bengals,

821
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: and they'll tell you about the Bend in the middle

822
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: of locker room with jocks and socks and all that.

823
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Cowl they used to charge.

824
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: They used to charge players for gatorade and lunch and

825
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: everything else. This is what the Bengals do. They operate

826
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: like a mom and pop shop.

827
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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I'm gonna ask you a question about quarterbacks right now.

828
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: Who's gonna have a better year, Caleb Williams or Justin Fields.

829
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about those two quarterbacks.

830
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: M Kelly Williams seems like he's set up for success

831
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 3: with Ben Johnson coming over. They're following the blueprint that

832
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: helped Jerry Goff kind of bounce back.

833
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.

834
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: Him just because of the play calling from Ben Johnson.

835
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 3: But I think Justin Fields will have a good year

836
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: in his own right though. I think it would be

837
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 3: more the run game and what he does to enhance

838
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: the Jets run game more so than what he does

839
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 3: as a passer.

840
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers came out the other day he said he

841
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: made running back again next year. What do you think

842
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: about that?

843
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

844
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: I think there's a love affair between Mike Tomlin and

845
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers. Moreover, I think there's a love affair with

846
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: all of these veterans that have come on board. Jalen Ramsey,

847
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf. There's a new vibe and energy

848
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: in that locker room, and when you're a part of that,

849
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: you want to stay connected to that. So I'm not

850
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: surprised to hear Aaron Rodgers say that.

851
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: All right, you know, speaking of Pittsburgh Steelers, let me

852
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: run this by I mean, obviously there's somewhat under the

853
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: radar and a lot of questions with that ball club

854
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: right now. How far can they go? Are they a

855
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: playoff team?

856
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: They're more than a playoff team.

857
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 3: I think they can be a sneaky title contender if

858
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: they played this right with Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, they can win. Look,

859
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: they can win big in the AFC North, but they

860
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: also can give people problems throughout the AFC. I think

861
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: this is one of the better teams in football.

862
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: Wow, all right, give me some NFL coaches already before

863
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: the season starts on the hot seat.

864
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: Down in Miami, Mike mean Daniels on the hot seat.

865
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure on him to get this right.

866
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: The locker room was fractured last year. They made some changes,

867
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: but we'll see if those changes materialize in wins. He

868
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: is number one on the hogh seat.

869
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Speaker 1: Did just a lot of unhappy campers around the city.

870
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Speaker 2: There we go. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm in DEFERMANI. By

871
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 2: the way, he doesn't do too much talking, but he

872
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 2: landed a bomb with this, that and more on Fox

873
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: All right, round one goes to the coach that's right

874
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: around the corner. Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports

875
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm ay firm, mean,

876
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: you know what we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

877
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: Radio studios and the way we go. He's my partner.

878
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: He's a football mavin. His name is Bucky Brooks. Bucky.

879
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: Here we go. Football is here, it's here. How has

880
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: it changed your life that the football season? Does it

881
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: mean that you're more involved with a TV set watching games?

882
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: What does it do to you the football season?

883
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm always kind of busy, it's a

884
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 3: different kind of busy. So for me, now that football

885
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 3: season is here, it means a weekly obligation of that

886
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: commitments to.

887
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars.

888
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: I do the radio broadcast now that we're transitioning to

889
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 3: the regular season, I'll be on the sideline as opposed

890
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: to being in the booth touring the preseason. During the

891
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: regular week, all the stuff for NFL Network, NFL podcasts,

892
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Buddha sticks with Daniel Jeremiah that I'll right for NFL

893
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: dot Com and also Fox Sports Digital.

894
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: I think we should probably pump that more Fox Sports

895
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: since the connection, and then some various odds and ends

896
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: where we just talk about ball. So it's all ball

897
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: all the time over here.

898
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to do that. I always pumped

899
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: the NFL dot Com store. I just starts doing the

900
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. I still I will do that. I promise

901
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: you I'll do that.

902
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: You know.

903
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit with the college game. Obviously,

904
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: yesday we have Iowa State beating Kansas State five at

905
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: the less six times, twenty four to twenty one. I

906
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: think that score was and obviously Iowa State control of

907
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: the football twelve minutes in the fourth quarter. That basically

908
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 2: was the game right there. But I watched a little

909
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: bit of the Stanford Hawaii game yesterday, which is on

910
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: Eastern time, like seven thirty Eastern time, which is probably

911
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: about one thirty in the afternoon in Honolulu. How bad

912
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: is it for Stanford to lose to Hawaii? Hi, Hawaii

913
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: is not normally a football power. They produce some top

914
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL, but they're not really a football power.

915
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: How bad is that loss for Stanford? Right now? Frank

916
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: W Reich basically coaching answers an interim coach for Stanford

917
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: right now.

918
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how bad it is, Like

919
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 3: the first week can be kind of hairy.

920
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: Uh.

921
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: I'll say this because the buddy minds the defensive coordinator

922
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: for White Dennis Thurman. Dennis Thrman, who not only played

923
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys and the Super Bowl champion, but spend

924
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: time at USC where he was a national champion way

925
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: back under John mckay'na. He's gonna make it difficult and

926
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: he made it difficult for Stanford, and a Stanford is

927
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: finding their way under Frank Wright, you're gonna have some

928
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 3: hiccups and some bumps in the road and those things.

929
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say it's a terrible loss.

930
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: It's not one that you want if you're Stanford because

931
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: you want to feel like you always can dominate teams.

932
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: Uh. From a lower conference. But they're rebuilding program.

933
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: They're they're a program that's in the middle of a transition,

934
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 3: so sometimes these things happen.

935
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm really glad you have a buddy over

936
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: there at University of Hawaii on the football staff. Now

937
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 2: I could get into some uh some behind the curtain situation.

938
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: So recruiting over the years, I mean, everything has to

939
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: be recruited on the mainland. How expensive is that? How

940
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: tough is it for them to recruit players? I mean

941
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: I always wondered about that. I mean, there's only a

942
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: certain amount of players on the island that play for

943
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: the University of Hawaii, So you got to go at

944
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: least to California, maybe further to get players.

945
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 3: West coasted and do those things, because it's like a

946
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: five hour journey to the island if you're going too

947
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 3: the University of Way. But they get most of the

948
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: guys from the West coast, and if you think about

949
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: some of the things like the culture and those things,

950
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 3: like it's easier to get people to AWII. They also

951
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: play on the mainland a few different times of years,

952
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: so your parents and stuff can see you. They got

953
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: a cute little stadium on campus there are some benefits,

954
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: but I think you have to be one who is

955
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: willing to sample that island life. That's a little different

956
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 3: than how we have it on the mainland domestically here.

957
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: But the people that I've known to go over there,

958
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: I've certainly enjoyed their experience.

959
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: All right, now we talk about college football, we talk

960
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: about the pros. Right now, you played both. What exactly

961
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: is the difference between the pro game and the college

962
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: game and all aspects the preparation, the learning, I aspect.

963
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the pro game is a business,

964
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: so you're on twenty four to seven. They give you

965
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: the playbook, you gotta study it. But what really are

966
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: some of the major differences between the pro game and

967
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: the college game.

968
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 3: I would say time on tasks, expectations, the things that

969
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: you have to do on the daily basis that are

970
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: voluntarily mandatory compared to, oh, I love it, it's a hobby,

971
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: maybe I will, maybe I want. That's the differences when

972
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: it comes to the pros and the pros. There's a

973
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: standard and the expectation of your ability to complete certain tasks,

974
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 3: your ability to play at a certain level. Because you

975
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: are a pro the college game, you have some of that,

976
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 3: but it's changed.

977
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: But I will say.

978
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: Since money has started flowing into the hands of the

979
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: players at the collegiate level, some of those expectations and

980
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 3: some of those pro standards had become more commonplace. So

981
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of difference. But I still will

982
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: say the level of competition at the pro level is

983
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: so much superior to what you see on the collegiate level.

984
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: Well, they Boston Globe asked your former school, the coach there,

985
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, what the difference was, and it was great

986
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: because he says, there's no owner, there's no owner's son,

987
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: there's no cap and everything that goes with the marketing

988
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: and everything else, which I'm all for that, but it's

989
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: way less of what it was at that level of

990
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: generic NFL teams. You have the owner of the president,

991
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 2: the general manager, personnel director, college director, pro director, CAF guy,

992
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: some other consultant, the head coach. He said, I'd say

993
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: that we had our best years in New England when

994
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: we had fewer people and more of a direct vision,

995
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: and as that expanded, it became harder to be successful.

996
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick took the first salvo, took the first shot

997
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: at its former owner of the of the of the

998
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. I thought it was great that how

999
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't talk much, so it's great that Belichick came

1000
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: out there, just took a big roundhouse to the New

1001
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: England Patriots right there.

1002
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: So here's what I think he's saying.

1003
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: And it is as a shot certainly at the Patriots,

1004
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: but I think this is true in all forms of

1005
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: team building. The more voices, Okay, I guess the best

1006
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: way people talk about it hy too many cooks in

1007
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: the kitchen, right, So you have too many people in

1008
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 3: leadership positions who want to have us say. And when

1009
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 3: you have too many people, you can't get anything done

1010
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: because everyone wants to be right. When you have a

1011
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 3: streamline process where everyone knows this is the person that

1012
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: is at the top, everyone needs to follow. Division fewer

1013
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: people leads to less division and more unity, and that

1014
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: helps you here to the plan, as opposed to everyone

1015
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: sneaking off in those dark corners whispering well, if I

1016
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 3: was in charge, we should be doing this or d.

1017
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: It just disrupts the flow.

1018
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: And finally, I'll say this, the Patriots had so much

1019
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: success on the Bill Belichick that the issue became less

1020
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 3: about their planning their process and more about who felt

1021
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: like they deserve the credit for the success. And when

1022
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: ego gets involved, it disrupts your program. And in New England,

1023
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 3: the owner, the owner's son, and everyone around the program

1024
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: wanted to have certain credit given to them for the Patriots' success,

1025
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: as opposed to man, let's just win games and not

1026
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 3: worry about who gets the credit. As long as we're winning,

1027
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: collecting rings, we all get credit as one of the

1028
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: best teams in history. Why not continue to operate like that?

1029
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: But people's ego can't. They just can't keep it in check.

1030
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: And that's what happened with the Patriots.

1031
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. We see that in Dallas too,

1032
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, No doubt about that with the ego. But

1033
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: I asked you the question about Bill Belichick, and I

1034
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: know I'm not going to ask you how many wins

1035
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: he's going to have, because I don't think anybody can

1036
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: predict that, But how successful can he be on the

1037
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: college level? And the college kids, can they or will

1038
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: they relate to his coaching tactics? So far, so good,

1039
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: I would think we haven't heard any explosions yet. Can

1040
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: they relate to what he's doing.

1041
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Yes, they can relate. Have him been there twice.

1042
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: I went there in the spring and watch him in springball,

1043
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: and then I was invited to go back to be

1044
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 3: around the football program doing an n official visit weekend,

1045
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: and I would tell you I was blown away one

1046
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: by his energy and enthusiasm around the kids eighteen to

1047
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: twenty two, how bought in he was in the recruiting process.

1048
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 3: Then in talking to people around the program, guys that

1049
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: I know, guys that I played with, they talk about it,

1050
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: just talked about like man, just how they're about their work.

1051
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: But the kids have embraced the work and how important

1052
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: it is that they're getting the right kind of kids.

1053
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 3: So when you tell me how successful will it be,

1054
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: I have no doubt that he's going to have success.

1055
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: Now that success might not match what he did at

1056
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: the pro level.

1057
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: But they're gonna win games because he understands how to

1058
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: win games at every level. They're working hard, they're buying in,

1059
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 3: and they will see a level of success. I would

1060
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: think eight wins this year in the debut season would

1061
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: be a success for the program. But I expect bigger

1062
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 3: and better things down the line. As he begins to

1063
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: settle in and really implement his program.

1064
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: All right, TCUs the opener next Monday, September first, So

1065
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: that's a big and I very pleased to read some

1066
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: quotes from the former coach. Mack Brown said that Bill

1067
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Belichick will have success with everything the school has given

1068
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: him to work with, which I thought was great. There's

1069
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 2: no envy, there's no jealousy, there's no meanness over there,

1070
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: because I remember when Mac Brown left, one of the

1071
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: comments was that he might be too old to coach

1072
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: at North Carolina, but too old to coach young kids

1073
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: in college football. And they hire Belichick, who I believe

1074
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: is even older than Matt Brown.

1075
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: He is older than coach Brown.

1076
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 3: I would say the way that this kind of took place,

1077
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: Coach Brown is being for real when he says that

1078
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: he set up for success. They made a bigger commitment

1079
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 3: to football for Belichick than they did for coach Brown.

1080
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I love coach Brown.

1081
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: They didn't give him the same kind of stuff that

1082
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: they've given Belichick in terms of run of the land,

1083
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: the amount of money that they committed to the program.

1084
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: In those things.

1085
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 3: Now, I will say that coach Belichick runs a harder

1086
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: edge program maybe a little more cutthroat, maybe a little

1087
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: more blue collar in terms of the work in those things.

1088
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: But both guys are Hall of famers, or assume to

1089
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 3: be Hall of famers. Coach Brown is a college football

1090
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. Bill Belichick will be a pro football

1091
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer based on what he's done.

1092
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: They're just doing it differently.

1093
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, the university made a stronger commitment to the

1094
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: football team monetarily and with rec horses, then they may

1095
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: be coach Brown, which is why Belichick will have success.

1096
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: Okay, now we talk about the transition pro college college pro,

1097
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: wherever it may be player a coach. I don't think

1098
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: it's that easy, and I think there's gonna be a

1099
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: tough road to hoe for Coach Belichick. And when I

1100
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: say that because I look at some of the other

1101
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: coaches who had a lot of success on one level

1102
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: and kind of fill on their face on the other level.

1103
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 2: Look at Urban Meyer, tremendous success in Ohio State. What

1104
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: happened to Tampa? I mean he just forgetting jack Jackson.

1105
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm sorry who got him in Jacksonvine? What happened to

1106
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: him there? He just fell on his face.

1107
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he fell on his face because he wasn't prepared

1108
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: and didn't fully know the pro game. Like there's stories

1109
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: everyone can read about it. He didn't know the pro game.

1110
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 3: He is a great program builder on the collegiate level,

1111
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: but the collegiate level is different than the pros, and

1112
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: the collegiate level, if I have better players, I'm gonna

1113
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: win more games. He was a great recruiter and he

1114
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: had better players than his opponents, so he was going

1115
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 3: to win games just based on that. The pros about

1116
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 3: coaching and tactics.

1117
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: All the teams have talent.

1118
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 3: You have to be able to win in the margins,

1119
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: and the margins typically are schematically and from a culture standpoint.

1120
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: Meaning everyone buys in.

1121
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: Even though this is a pro game and his business,

1122
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 3: they still kind of have a familial feel to it.

1123
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 3: It feels like a family. But yeah, Urban didn't do that.

1124
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 3: He didn't buy into that part of it. That's why

1125
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I didn't work for him.

1126
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Nick Saban failed with the Miami Dolphins

1127
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: and look what he did. One of the college football

1128
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: coaches ever.

1129
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: Really well, Yeah, like Nick Saban, and I wouldn't even

1130
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: call it fail because I think they had a winter

1131
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: season one year then it wasn't great the second year,

1132
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 3: but I mean it came down to the quarterback. He

1133
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 3: wanted Drew Brees. They had Drew Brees in the building.

1134
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: They were gonna sign him as a free agent, the

1135
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins doctors next it, he signs Dante Culpepper. And

1136
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: this league, the National Football League, if you don't have

1137
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: a quarterback, you don't have a chance.

1138
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: That's where you're hurt.

1139
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: But there's no doubt when you talk to people down there,

1140
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 3: he was going to have success because he's a great coach.

1141
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 3: The one thing that I know about great coaches, great

1142
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: coaches can figure it out collegiate level, pro level. The

1143
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: game part of it doesn't change much. It's the rules

1144
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: of engagement around the game that changes from collegiate to pro.

1145
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: Okay, And what about Jim Harbaugh to me, is the

1146
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 2: exception to the rule in a sense had success on

1147
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: the college level, and is it Jim at his success,

1148
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: He's going to have success now in the pros? He

1149
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 2: will and he did.

1150
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what he does like he understands it.

1151
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: The blueprint and some of the hokey pokey stuff that.

1152
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: They do in the locker rooms wherever he's been it works.

1153
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 3: He has a great mind, not only from a schematic

1154
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: and tactical standpoint, but he just has a great feel

1155
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: for building a team and all of the different factors

1156
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 3: that you have to have in place to build a team.

1157
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: He does that. Yeah, you're right.

1158
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: I think you could throw Jim Harbought anywhere and he

1159
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 3: will find a way to be successful at any level,

1160
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 3: high school.

1161
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: College, pro, whatever it is. Wherever you put him. He's

1162
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: a winner. He's a coach.

1163
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think there are some coaches that it's

1164
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: like the p the principle, Like you could be a

1165
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: tremendous teacher, but they make you a principal. You know,

1166
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: you may fail, but you're better off in the classroom

1167
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: than leading other teachers. And I'm looking at some of

1168
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: these coaches. I mean, Bill O'Brien, good coordinator, didn't really

1169
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: hack it as a head coach, right.

1170
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean different though, but like there has to be

1171
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 3: a connection. Though to me, it just doesn't seem like

1172
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 3: he necessarily connects with people. So you can be the

1173
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 3: greatest exes and oh guy on the planet, but it's

1174
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 3: still a relationship a people business, and you got to

1175
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 3: have the right people in place to get the business done.

1176
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: So look, he's been successful. He took over a tough

1177
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: situation in Penn State and kind of stabilized it. Has

1178
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 3: success in Houston, not based on the record because people

1179
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 3: say he's right around five hundred as a coach, but look,

1180
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 3: he got them to the playoffs three or four times,

1181
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: and I expect that you have success at Boston College.

1182
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: It's just not a lovey dovey, feel good type program.

1183
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: Steve Spurry didn't do much with the Washington Redskins when

1184
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: he came to the NFL, So I mean, really and truly,

1185
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: the track record doesn't look that good. I mean, it's

1186
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: just tough. Lou Holtz, I mean with the Jets.

1187
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I think maybe the difference, I don't know,

1188
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 3: like some of it is going from up to down

1189
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: or down to up, meaning going from the college game

1190
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 3: to the program is completely different. Remember going back to

1191
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 3: the original cold you're talking about, Belichick talked about all

1192
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: the different people, all the different cooks in the kitchen

1193
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: when you go to the pros where if you come

1194
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 3: from the collegiate game, where you've been to the executive

1195
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: chef and no one else operates in the kitchen but

1196
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: you to now you go to the Pro game and

1197
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 3: it's different.

1198
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: That's a bit of a learning curve.

1199
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: I think it has actually been easier for guys to

1200
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 3: drop down a level and have success.

1201
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: Think about Pete.

1202
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: Carroll, a couple of failures first at the Pro Game,

1203
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: goes to sc tremendous amount of success the Empire of

1204
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: leads that back into success in Seattle. You know, there

1205
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: have been others who have dropped down and have had

1206
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: some success doing that. But a lot of it depends

1207
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: on man the players. You still gotta have players to

1208
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: do it.

1209
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 9: Like.

1210
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: It still takes players to win, but it is a

1211
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: relationship business at every level if you're gonna win.

1212
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Okay, see, guys, I'm looking at some coaches now. Bobby

1213
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: Paccino went to Louisville, then he went to the Atlanta Falcons.

1214
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: Didn't do much there, but I will tell you this much,

1215
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin, I think he succeeded. I look, I think

1216
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: it's sometimes it's the personality. This guy is a tough

1217
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: son of a gun. He left Boston College and became

1218
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: the coach with the first coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars,

1219
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: and he led him to the AFC Championship. So I

1220
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: think that he had some success at both levels. But

1221
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: he's that kind of a guy. I mean, I think, well,

1222
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 2: I don't know Tom Cofflin. I wouldn't know him if

1223
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: I was in a room.

1224
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played for him, I was on those Yeah,

1225
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: but I was on those Jaguars.

1226
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: Personality, like, you know, I'm not gonna lose, right, He's

1227
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: one of those gritty, old old school kind of guys.

1228
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's definitely old school. He's a disciplinarian.

1229
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: He had a lot of rules, a lot of rules

1230
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: that you had to hear too. Some of those rules

1231
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 3: made sense, some of them didn't. I did have to

1232
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 3: make an apology to him a long time ago because

1233
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: I played there and I Bristol did those rules. I

1234
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: didn't understand why we all had to wear the same

1235
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: shorts and socks and college shirt on the road and

1236
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: those things. But then as I finished playing and as

1237
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: I started coaching high school, I told him, I now

1238
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: understand why you did what you did with us, and

1239
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 3: it does make a lot sense now. And look he

1240
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 3: did it like he is a tough minded He's gonna

1241
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: build a tough, physical, old school throwback team.

1242
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: And you can win a lot of games with that

1243
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: mentality and that grit.

1244
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I mean, I just think that what you said,

1245
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: going from NFL to college might be an easier way

1246
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: to go. And really and truly most of the guys

1247
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 2: go from college to the NFL, and maybe that's why

1248
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: they're having a hard time. I think going to NFL

1249
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: to college, I think really could be a little easier.

1250
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: It could be an easier move.

1251
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be.

1252
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't guarantee anything, but yeah, it could be. Because one

1253
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 3: the over warming majority of collegiate players want to go pro,

1254
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: so they're more likely to buy in and listen to

1255
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 3: what you're saying when you tell them, hey, this is

1256
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 3: what you're gonna be asked to do when you're a pro,

1257
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: and so they'll kind of heed that advice. They'll listen

1258
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 3: to you. They'll buy in and do those things. When

1259
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: you're going up in ranks, it's hard for a pro player,

1260
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: particularly one who's been in for a long time, to

1261
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: look at a collegiate coach the same and so you

1262
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: have to connect with them differently. Matt Ruhl had a

1263
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: tough time with that, and he's one of the best

1264
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: coaches in college football. We're seeing what he's done throughout

1265
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 3: his time and what he's about to do at Nebraska.

1266
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: But at Carolina it didn't work because the credibility, you know,

1267
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: is the lack of understanding, like, hey man, what do

1268
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: you ask me to do? How is this gonna pay

1269
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 3: off for me down the line? There is more of.

1270
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: A credibility issue for a collegiate coach coming up than

1271
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: for an NFL coach going down. Interesting.

1272
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,320
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1281
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: We have also the Blame Game, and you can get

1282
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Speaker 2: We'll explain it all next. Perhaps it's all about jealousy.

1286
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: That's right around the corner. He is, Bucket Brooks. I'm

1287
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,720
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1288
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Speaker 2: about twelve minutes from now. But right now, you are

1290
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 2: an amazing individual, Bucket Brooks. You really are, because you know,

1291
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: I did not go to the Fox website this time,

1292
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: at NFL dot com this week, and you're talking about

1293
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy a little early, of course, but you

1294
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: know you got to jump on everybody else and you

1295
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Speaker 2: got the top eight possibilities and sixty the eight quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, I don't think a

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Speaker 2: quarterback's gonna win this year. I think Jeremiah Smith, the

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01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: wide receiver at Ohio State's gonna win the Heisman. That's

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01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: my take right now.

1300
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 3: I mean, jeremih Smith is the best player in college football,

1301
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 3: but the Heisman Trophy award typically goes to a quarterback,

1302
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: the quarterback of the best team with the best stats,

1303
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 3: and so he has an uphill climb to overtake whomever

1304
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: that is because some of the guys that we're talking about,

1305
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 3: a top of the list k Klutnick Arch Manning, they're

1306
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: gonna have an opportunity to one be seen on prime

1307
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: time to the lead teams there on title chases, and

1308
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna put up terrific stats. It's gonna be hard

1309
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: to do that because the name cachet, the brand uh

1310
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 3: equity that has already exists.

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01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: When it comes to the quarterback. Man, it's just it's

1312
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: just hard. It's hard to deal with it. So I

1313
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: agree with you.

1314
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: Big decisions hard. Yeah, it's not fair. But a big

1315
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: decision is gonna be made probably when Ohio State plays

1316
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 2: Texas next week, because those two guys will be meeting,

1317
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: because Arch Meeting is gonna be meeting Ohio State. I

1318
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: want to see what happened. And you know what, I'm

1319
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: a little sick and tired of the Manning name out there.

1320
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: I have no disregard for them. I respect them, but

1321
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: it's like ridiculous right now because Eli Manning will probably

1322
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 2: get into the Hall of Fame, obviously he won two

1323
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, but the name Manning is really gonna shoe

1324
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: him in through the doors. There's no doubt about that.

1325
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 2: And Arch Manning really didn't do squat last year in

1326
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: college football, and he's ranked number one as possible getting

1327
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 2: the Heisman this year. What has he done? But as

1328
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: you say the cachet, the name is the name that's

1329
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: getting us done. Is it fair?

1330
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: No?

1331
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: But just just the way it is.

1332
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: That is just the way it is, and you can't

1333
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: be upset about it because here's what I do know.

1334
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 3: Look, whenever you say Manning and you put that in Google,

1335
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 3: it's at the top of the list when it comes

1336
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: to SEO search engine optimization. So this is what it's

1337
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,959
Speaker 3: going to be. And people going to talk about Arch Manning.

1338
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 3: He's been anointed as the guy, but he also is talented.

1339
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 3: He's a different style quarterback than his uncles, but he

1340
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 3: certainly is talented. And we are way ahead of the curve.

1341
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 3: We're jumping the gun significantly, like, way early. But that's

1342
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 3: what we do because its sales. The name sales. It's

1343
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: a great story, and we're in the business selling stories,

1344
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: which is why he's one of the tops already when

1345
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: it comes to the Heisman Trophy race.

1346
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: Which is ridiculous. As you mentioned in your preview, he's

1347
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: only had ninety five college past attempts and he's number

1348
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 2: one now listed as a possibility to win the Heisman Trophy.

1349
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean, this is I mean, this is how it goes.

1350
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's as crazy as crazy as it is

1351
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: that that is definitely how it goes.

1352
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 3: And there are a lot of people that are willing

1353
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: to say that he is going to be the next

1354
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: one to get it done at a high level.

1355
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: Do you think he's going to win it? I mean,

1356
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: you put there as far as the potential, but do

1357
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 2: you think he'll be winning. I hope he does it.

1358
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean I hope.

1359
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm a little selfish for someone who's

1360
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 3: daughter at University Texas.

1361
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: I hope that they win it so she can have

1362
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: a great experience. But I don't know. I mean they're good,

1363
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: they're loaded. They have everything that you want.

1364
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 3: I mean, runners, pass catchers, a quarterback, defense galore, coach

1365
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: who knows the blueprint and the formula.

1366
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they are a juggernaut and.

1367
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: They're going to continue to be really, really good in

1368
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: the Arch Manning era, which is why look this is

1369
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 3: he's probably not gonna be one and done. He's probably

1370
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 3: has two more years at Texas, and if he has

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01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 3: two years, I would anticipate them being able to get

1372
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: it done during that time frame.

1373
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I tell you what, if i'm him or

1374
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 2: on one of his handlers, or his relative, is his grandpa,

1375
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: his uncle, whatever it may be, they need to tell

1376
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 2: him to stay in school because if we know anything

1377
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: at all about quarterbacks going from college to the pros,

1378
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: you better get some reps in college to be somewhat

1379
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: successful in the pros. Take a look at Anthony Richardson,

1380
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: young kid but still in OL. Never had that many

1381
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: reps in the college ranks, and that's why he's having

1382
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 2: some difficulty in the pro ranks.

1383
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: No, that's not why he's having difficulty. He never dominated

1384
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 3: the collegiate game like that.

1385
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

1386
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 3: So people are talking about the lack of experience in

1387
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 3: those things. But I would say, what was Anthony Richardson's

1388
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 3: signature game? When did he ever dominate consistently over a two, three, four,

1389
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: five game period where you felt like he was the

1390
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,959
Speaker 3: best player on the field. He had a great game

1391
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: one year against Utah, great game, but he never matched that. Again,

1392
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 3: the draft is about like trying to take players who

1393
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: not only have these traits that kind of tantalize you

1394
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: about their potential, but they also have to have production

1395
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: and performance to validate while you're taking them.

1396
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson didn't have that. Hopefully for arch Manning.

1397
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 3: He gives you some of those moments where you feel

1398
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 3: good about a not only is the potential there, but

1399
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 3: he has a track record of production that's likely going

1400
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 3: to lead to success down the line.

1401
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: But we have seen quarterbacks that have not had a

1402
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: lot of college experience not really have a great pro

1403
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: career well, have a difficult time adapting to the pros.

1404
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and I mean that is one true because the

1405
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 3: more you play, the more you learn. And when you

1406
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 3: play significant amount of snaps at the collegiate level, you

1407
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: learn a lot.

1408
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 1: The guys that are.

1409
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 3: Having instant success as rookies at quarterback they played a

1410
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 3: lot Bo Knicks, jayde and Daniels both head over. I

1411
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 3: know Bo Nicks had sixty four starts. I think Jay

1412
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 3: Daniels might have had fifty five close to sixty starts.

1413
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot of time on tasks as.

1414
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: A leader, and every time you play you learn more

1415
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: because give every rep matters so yeah, I think you

1416
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: have to look for guys.

1417
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: Who have significant experience.

1418
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: That also maybe why his granddad, arch Manning Archie was saying, yeah,

1419
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: he may hang around a little bit because they know

1420
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 3: they see it and there's not necessarily a rush to

1421
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: get him to the league.

1422
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: Exactly right now. We talked about the college game and

1423
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: coaches jumping from college to pros and vice versa, from

1424
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: the pros bat to college at Bill Belichick, and we

1425
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: also mentioned Urban Mayer, and believe it or not, he's

1426
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: back in the news again now. We talked about the

1427
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: so called quote punishment the University of Michigan football team,

1428
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: and they're filma coach Jim Halbrock from the NCAA following

1429
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: their sign stealing during their twenty twenty three national championship

1430
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: season twenty million dollars and basically everybody who was involved

1431
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: with that really and truly is no longer they're in Michigan. Okay, Well,

1432
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer feels that Jim Harbaugh should be punished by

1433
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. Why in the hell is Urban Meyer concerned

1434
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: about Jim Harbaugh unless he's jealous and he's upset it

1435
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: just has a personal vendetta against Jim Harbaugh. Why is

1436
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 2: he concerned? Why is he sticking his nose in this business?

1437
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 2: I like to know.

1438
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 3: Ah. I mean, look, this is what commentators do, this

1439
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: is what Urban does, particularly when it relates to Harbaugh.

1440
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 3: He loves poking the bear a little bit, so he's

1441
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 3: gonna poke the bear. He's gonna do it whenever he

1442
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: has an opportunity and do those things. It has nothing

1443
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 3: to do The collegiate game and the pro game are

1444
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 3: like completely separate and there's nothing, hopefully that Roger Goodell

1445
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: does the impact Jim Harbaugh anything. Whatever took place at

1446
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 3: Michigan took place at Michigan.

1447
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: You leave that there.

1448
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 3: He got a show cause penalty in those things. But

1449
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: in the NFL, nah, I shouldn't have any consequence.

1450
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to Urban Meyer on the Triple

1451
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: Option podcast what he had to say.

1452
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 9: There's an elephant in the room here, boys, though that

1453
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 9: no one's talking about. When Jim Trussell was fired at

1454
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 9: Ohio State and he was given a suspension, Roger Goodell,

1455
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 9: commissioner of the National Football League, came out and said that.

1456
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: We're going to honor that violate.

1457
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 9: They were going to honor that suspension, and remember he

1458
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 9: went to Indianapolis Colts to work in the replay room

1459
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 9: or something. The Colts because the respect they had for

1460
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 9: the NCAA and the suspension. Do you realize suspended Jim

1461
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 9: Trussell so he was unable to perform his duties for

1462
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 9: the first six games of the year for the Indianapolis Colts.

1463
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: I think we all know the answer.

1464
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, any chance that Roger Goodell and the NFL, of

1465
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 9: course not.

1466
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: Well.

1467
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 2: Look, I would say this that that's from the Jim

1468
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: Trussell for the overmya Triple Option podcast. But Maya, he's

1469
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: got a little bit of a point here. If Goodell

1470
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: was going to punish Trestle for infractions that were committed

1471
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 2: to college, why won't he do the same thing with

1472
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh. But again I would say urban, Maya, Urban,

1473
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 2: stay in your lane. Really, this has nothing to do

1474
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 2: with you. Get out of it. I still think it's personal.

1475
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: I think it's jealousy. But you did go seven and

1476
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: zero against Michigan when Harbor was there during the time

1477
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: of Ohio State, so you know, maybe it wasn't that personal,

1478
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: but it certainly comes out that way that it's personal,

1479
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: and it doesn't look good for urban Meyer. You know,

1480
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: it looks worse for urban Meyer than for Jim Harbaugh

1481
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: when you think about it. You know, Harbor is the

1482
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: greatest because he hasn't said boo. He hasn't said a

1483
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: word when the when the penalty came down last week.

1484
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: I guess he was asked by some media people you

1485
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 2: couldn't find or hear a word from Jim Harbaugh, which

1486
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 2: is the smartest thing in the world. Didn't say a word.

1487
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean, what can't he say anyway? You know, like

1488
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 3: there's nothing really that can be said. I think you

1489
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 3: have to just be careful of waiting in those waters.

1490
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 3: And I understand why urban Meyer would do that because

1491
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: he does have a point. Jim Trussell did serve a

1492
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: suspension and when all that stuff went down with Terrell

1493
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: prior and tattoos and and permissible benefits in those things.

1494
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: But I think the league is different now. I don't

1495
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 3: think Roger Goodeal wants to necessarily do that because you

1496
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: know what it does. It tarnishes the brand. And the

1497
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: NFL of late has done a lot of things to

1498
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,759
Speaker 3: make sure that the brand is look unblemished, not tarnished

1499
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 3: or whatever, and so if you do that, all you

1500
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 3: do is bring negative attention. The league is not trying

1501
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: to bring negative attention on its own. So yeah, I

1502
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: don't think we'll see your suspension or anything like that.

1503
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this, I think you'll agree that

1504
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 2: the sign stealing scandal that took place at Michigan was

1505
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 2: a greater infraction than the one that costumed trussell Is

1506
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: job at Ohio State, when the guys were basically just

1507
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 2: trying to get some money and getting tattoos remember that deal,

1508
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 2: and selling jerseys, you know, for their own personal gain.

1509
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it was nothing to do with changing game opportunities. Really,

1510
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 2: I think this was a worse situation than it was

1511
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: that couse Jim Trussell's job. And I love Jim Trussell.

1512
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: I thought he was a true gentleman. I thought he

1513
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: did a great job.

1514
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 1: Uh, he did do a terrific job.

1515
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 3: You know, he did a terrific job of making all

1516
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 3: the things like happen whatever. I mean, it's different, it's conversation,

1517
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 3: but really a.

1518
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: Lot of this is like we've already done this, right,

1519
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: We've already gone through this. I don't know why we

1520
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: keep bringing it up or whatever.

1521
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: They this has already been decided in legislative, so I mean,

1522
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 3: hopefully there's a resolution, but you know, Michigan is keeping

1523
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 3: it alive because they decided to follow an appeal.

1524
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: So it just never ever goes away.

1525
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: Well, you know what how to do or get involved

1526
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: with Urban Maya, you know what had had something to

1527
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: do with him, and it did because the NCUBA, when

1528
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 2: they punished Ohio State, had had a very big impact

1529
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: on Urban Maya because Urba Maya took over the Ohio

1530
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 2: State program in the fall I believe twenty eleven when

1531
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: Jim Trustll was gone and because of the trustle in

1532
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 2: fractions that took place before Urban took over, Ohio State

1533
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: did lose nine scholarships and they were not allowed to

1534
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: play in a bowl or a championship game during the

1535
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: first year when Urban Meyer took over. So that's the

1536
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 2: deal right there. You had to see some sort of

1537
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: a connection between Urban Meyer and Jim and the Urban

1538
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: Meyers taking over Ohio State and what happened in Michigan

1539
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: with with with Harbor. That that was the deal right there.

1540
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: So there was some envy, there was some jealousy, and look,

1541
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any love loss between urban Meyer

1542
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 2: and Jim Tressel and may mean Jim Harbor. I'm sorry,

1543
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure of that, right, I'm sure there's some animosity

1544
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 2: over there between the two.

1545
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: I mean, there's always gonna be something, right, Like, there's

1546
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: something that rivalry.

1547
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 3: You know, Ohio State Michigan. I mean, you're they're in

1548
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 3: the great state of Ohio. You see how they they

1549
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 3: get down and how they don't like each other within

1550
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 3: their state. Yeah, like, so look, I get it, understand it.

1551
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: Uh is just you know, it's just weird that that's

1552
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 3: gonna be the heal that he wants to die on.

1553
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: But so be it.

1554
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 2: Well, and because of that, if you remember urban Meyer's

1555
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 2: first year at Ohio State, he went twelve to zero,

1556
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 2: but they weren't allowed to com to compete for a

1557
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: Big ten title or a national title. So I mean

1558
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: that that was the whole thing right there. So it

1559
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: still burns him. It still burns Urban So sorry, Urban,

1560
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 2: just as the way it is, that's still suay. It

1561
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 2: is live with it, and it just makes him look petty.

1562
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: That's what it does. It really does.

1563
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean that's what it is. But

1564
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: that's that's part of the robbery. That's all of it.

1565
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 3: It's so many things baked into Why urban would have

1566
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 3: jump in want to jump into this conversation, no.

1567
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: Doubt about that. Really, Okay, Now, be sure to subscribe

1568
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,599
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1569
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,400
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1570
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1571
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1572
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1574
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: Now he's bucking Brooks on Andy Firm when we are

1575
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Really, it's really easy.

1576
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: It's pretty easy. Two choices yay or nay, and then

1577
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 2: next yeay your nay coming right up. It's about twelve

1578
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: minutes before the top of the hour. He's bucking Brooks

1579
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: and Andy Firm when we're live from the Fox Bots

1580
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: Radio studios, and it is that time. So, uh, are

1581
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: you ready a little dumper? Let's do it. Let's okay,

1582
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 2: let's figure rack those brains, gentlemen.

1583
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 6: These stories need an ass.

1584
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: I think we need a ruling on this.

1585
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 6: It's yay or nay.

1586
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Yes, it is a little dumper. Let it go.

1587
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 8: All right, Well, let's hear it for the yas, let's

1588
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 8: hear it for the nays. Everybody, it's time to play

1589
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 8: yeay r nay. And you know what, guys, I say,

1590
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 8: I've got a good one. And maybe this is a

1591
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 8: yay or maybe it's a nay. Well, so the Cleveland

1592
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 8: Browns have finally finally established Joe Flacco as they're starting

1593
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 8: quarter That's not the important part of this yeay or nay?

1594
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 8: The important part is is Dylan Gabriel Should he yay

1595
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 8: or nay on this? Should he be the second string

1596
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 8: backup quarterback over should Dor Sanders? Is this like yay

1597
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 8: or nay on this?

1598
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: Andy Furman, Well, there's a question of should he or

1599
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: what do I want him to be? Okay? Should he?

1600
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 2: Probably he should, I think after the performance of should

1601
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: Door yesterday. But he didn't get much help on the

1602
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: offensive line, so I'm gonna say yay. But the good

1603
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: news is that Joe Flattel is getting ready to collect

1604
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: Social Security, so he meant at last the whole season.

1605
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: So should do is gonna move up on that chart?

1606
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 3: I would think draft position will make it where Dylan

1607
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: Gabriel will get first by Today Apples. If you like,

1608
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 3: cross out both games and say that it was a

1609
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 3: push between Gabriel and Sanders. Gabriel gets to not because

1610
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 3: he was the third round pick and Sanders is the

1611
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: fifth round.

1612
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: All right, all right, well we got coming up next.

1613
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 8: We got local affiliates are losing money and losing money

1614
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 8: named could potentially shut down. According to a report in

1615
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 8: Barret Sports Media, could the NFL be home to Netflix,

1616
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 8: Prime Video, Peacock and even Paramount instead of you know,

1617
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 8: the Fox Sports Is, the CBS Sports is and a

1618
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 8: NBC Sports Is or the like yeah or nay on this,

1619
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 8: Bucky Uh.

1620
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: I will say not either, or I would say yay.

1621
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: It will be home to those guys, but they won't

1622
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 3: lose the local markets as well, Netflix, Amazon, YouTube. They

1623
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 3: all would get a bite at the apple. But the

1624
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 3: league is never going to do away with the local markets.

1625
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: The more people that can see football, the more money

1626
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: goes to the NFL, and the league is never gonna

1627
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: turn down.

1628
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 1: Minds.

1629
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say nay. I just don't think that the

1630
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: NFL could afford to turn it around and like lose

1631
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: free over the year of football for the fans, because

1632
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: that would turn them off. That would kill the goose

1633
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: that laid the golden egg. I think there's gonna be

1634
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: more and more games that'll be streamed. There's no doubt

1635
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: about that. You cannot get every game stream because, like

1636
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 2: Bucky says, you gotta have people seeing the games, and

1637
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: people are gonna refuse to pay for those games. And

1638
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to be one of them. How's that all right?

1639
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 8: Well, I'm with it, speaking of a golden Eggyandy. Back

1640
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 8: to college football. SEC is expanding games to a nine

1641
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 8: conference games next season, and the Big Ten is looking

1642
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 8: at a twenty four twenty eight team playoff format. Yeah

1643
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 8: your nay, Andy.

1644
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 2: You know what, Initially when I read this and heard you,

1645
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: I said nay. But if they're talking to Bucky Brooks,

1646
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 2: he slapped me around pretty good, but he showed me

1647
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 2: the real He showed me the way. He always shows

1648
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 2: me the way. And if they're going to eliminate bowl games,

1649
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: I kind of like this tournament. I kind of like

1650
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: the twenty eight game deal, twenty four to twenty eight teams.

1651
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 2: I like that. Eliminate the bulls. They never said that,

1652
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 2: but that's basically what they're going to do. Eliminate the

1653
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 2: bulls and do a large tournament for everybody to get

1654
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: in there.

1655
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 3: So I say, yay, Yeah, I'm all about it. A man,

1656
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 3: bigger tournament. The more teams that are playing, the better

1657
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 3: the competition is. I like a true champion, and true

1658
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 3: champions are one on the grid iron and so at

1659
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 3: every state we have high school playoffs where you have

1660
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 3: sixteen to thirty two teams.

1661
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: Why not do it in the collegiate game. Yeah, I'm

1662
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:19,679
Speaker 1: with this. I think they should expand it and eliminate

1663
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: the bolls.

1664
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 8: Well, speaking of a true champion, guys, Nick Saban has

1665
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 8: been rumored to return to college football coaching. Yeah or

1666
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 8: nay on this, Bucky Brooks.

1667
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the school to keep an eye

1668
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: on would be LSU.

1669
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:37,560
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly doesn't appear to be a great match for

1670
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: the Bayu Bengals, and look, if the money is significant enough,

1671
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 3: I think there may be a way to lure Nick

1672
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 3: Saban out of retirement. I know he loves TV, but

1673
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: also know he loves coaching.

1674
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: I say, Nate, there's no way. At God's Green Earth.

1675
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: He's comfortable, he likes it, he wants to go out.

1676
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: He's a legend at Alabama. I don't think he's going

1677
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 2: to do it. Why would he want to do? Go fishing,

1678
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: Go fishing.

1679
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Nick really coaches coach coaches, coach well, speaking.

1680
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 8: Of fishing, guys, maybe not in this way, but hey,

1681
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 8: we're fishing for a challenge. The nine to nine to

1682
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 8: nine challenge in baseball game?

1683
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 2: Now, what is that?

1684
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 8: Eating nine hot dogs, drinking nine beers in a course

1685
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 8: of nine innings? Yeay r nay on the zandy Nay.

1686
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: It's disgusting. That's why everybody in this country is so

1687
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: freaking fat. Really, it's disgusting. I'm not a little dumper.

1688
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 2: You might do that. I'm not doing that no way.

1689
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 3: What I mean, I don't like I don't like beer,

1690
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 3: but the hot dogs and stuff would intrigue me.

1691
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you got nine innings to get them done.

1692
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 3: I mean there are times I've gone I've gone to

1693
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 3: a game and I've had three hot dogs before we've

1694
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: gotten even into the things.

1695
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: So I could I could see.

1696
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: It if I knew that I was going there with

1697
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 3: the full sole purpose of doing the nine nine nine,

1698
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 3: I'll do it.

1699
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: Oh my what all right? By the way, one quarterback

1700
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: could be changing uniforms, but where that right here on

1701
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: Fox coming up next? Why was this the curtain raiser

1702
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 2: that's coming right out? Good morning, everybody. This is Fox

1703
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks. I

1704
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 2: may deferminive. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

1705
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 2: and Buck, we're rocking and rolling right now because it's

1706
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: our number three. We've took football. It's right around the corner.

1707
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,640
Speaker 2: We've touched on it. And one of the games they

1708
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: touched on yesterday was the Iowa State Kansas State game.

1709
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 2: Iowa State Winnsday had control of the football twelve minutes

1710
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: in that final quarter yesterday they went twenty four to

1711
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: twenty one. And the question I have for you, because

1712
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: I know you probably have the answer, I don't how

1713
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 2: do they pick these teams that got to Doublin every year?

1714
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: I had no problem with Notre Dame. I mentioned this earlier.

1715
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: Notre Dame should be in Dublin every year, should be

1716
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 2: a home game for them. But why do they pick

1717
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Iowa State Kansas date? How would they pick then? Who

1718
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 2: picks him?

1719
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Whoever puts on those games has DoD

1720
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: choice to pick him?

1721
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 3: And you're trying to figure out one which fan base

1722
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 3: would fill it up, like who's gonna make the international travel,

1723
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 3: what would be a good game to take in terms

1724
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 3: of like a marquee game, one that people would tune in,

1725
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: and those things.

1726
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,440
Speaker 1: And the reason Iowa.

1727
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: State and Case State made sense is because it had

1728
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 3: big twelve implications, two really good teams, two teams that

1729
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 3: were ranked in the top twenty five, and two teams

1730
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,520
Speaker 3: that were going to buy for the championship.

1731
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 1: To me, it made a lot of.

1732
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 3: Sense to bring those teams in and to figure out

1733
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 3: who's gonna be a heavyweight a contender this year.

1734
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: I knew you'd have the answer. Okay, And now that

1735
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Speaker 2: we're talking about those two teams, it's time for the

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1739
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Speaker 2: The Laplock touch down walk up back. What a great

1740
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Speaker 2: bunny calld like tower bowser All right, Iowa stay rock

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Speaker 2: You didn't have him in your top eight. As far

1750
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 2: as Heisman possibilities, is he a Heisman possibility?

1751
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's on the list, but way

1752
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: down the list.

1753
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 3: They're bigger names for bigger programs that are gonna get

1754
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 3: first crack at it before him. But if he puts

1755
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: up spectacular numbers and those things, yeah he could have

1756
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 3: a chance. But hit the entire stage to himself on

1757
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: Saturday and he didn't wow us with like numbers that

1758
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 3: kind of jumped off the stat sheet. It could be

1759
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 3: a little harder for him because every time we see

1760
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: him the Football World season, we need to see him

1761
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 3: have a big game for him to make up ground

1762
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 3: on some of the notable names that are already on

1763
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: the list.

1764
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: Okay, now we moved to the National Football League. It

1765
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: was Indianapolis coltsmaned official this week. Daniel Jones will be

1766
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 2: their starting quarterback in twenty twenty five instead of the

1767
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: former number four overall pick, Anthony Richardson. How surprised are

1768
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 2: you with that?

1769
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 3: Not surprised, as though when they made the move to

1770
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 3: bring him in, they brought him in and paid him

1771
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: like he was gonna be the starting quarterback. I want

1772
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 3: to say that deal had him with a base salary

1773
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 3: of ten to twelve million dollars, which is significant for

1774
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 3: a quote unquote backup quarterback. Not surprised then when Anthony

1775
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 3: Richardson had another injury the dislocated finger. In those things,

1776
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 3: it's just part of a list of injuries where he

1777
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 3: hasn't been available. And if you're Shane Stiken, you're Chris

1778
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 3: ballat the general manager, this is a make or break

1779
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 3: year for you. You're competing for your professional lives in

1780
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 3: terms of retaining the roles that you're in. You go

1781
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 3: with Danny Dins because you know what you're getting. There's

1782
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: a level of consistency that he brings. Now, he may

1783
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 3: not have the highest of ceilings, but his floor is

1784
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: good enough for them to win and for the goals.

1785
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 3: You're just trying to figure out a way to win

1786
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 3: games by any means necessary. So this gives them a

1787
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,720
Speaker 3: chance to win games. But the roster that is pretty good,

1788
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 3: I mean very very competitive with some of the top

1789
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 3: rosters in the league.

1790
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. They gave him a chance,

1791
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson in two years. His completion percentage of like

1792
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: forty eight percent in twenty twenty four was the worst

1793
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 2: in the season since ten Tiva went twenty eleven. His

1794
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: eight and twelve touchdown did interception ratio sixty one percent

1795
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: passer rating the worst since DeShawn Kaiser's marks in twenty seventeen.

1796
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: So this guy has also struggled, as you mentioned, to

1797
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: stay healthy. So Richardson right now has some physical gifts.

1798
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 2: They would say that maybe created the draft where he

1799
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 2: was number four, but he has improven a thing in

1800
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 2: the National Football League yet. So the question is what's

1801
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: next for Anthony Richardson. So obviously they wanted to look

1802
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: at some tape. He'd like to go somewhere else, and

1803
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: there's some opportunities I would think in the National Football

1804
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: League for him to at least be a backup. And

1805
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: my take would be with the back issue in Los

1806
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 2: Angeles with Matthew Stafford and the Rams, the Rams were

1807
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: maybe looking at Anthony Richardson as a possible backup. Is

1808
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: that correct?

1809
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 3: I mean maybe, I don't know if stylistically he fits,

1810
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 3: but there's gonna be some answers in him. If he's

1811
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: dangled out there or if he's cut people want Look,

1812
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 3: they're not gonna take on that rookie contract. They'll wait

1813
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 3: for him to get cut so they can get him

1814
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 3: on a minimum deal. But there'll always be some answers

1815
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: just because he's such a spectacular athlete that there's a

1816
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 3: coach out there that says I can get it out

1817
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 3: of him. And some guys like tinkering with quarterback projects.

1818
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 3: It's like those old men who like kind of messing

1819
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: with old cars, right they like wearing cars and getting

1820
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: up under the hood and doing that. Well, if you're

1821
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: dealing with Anthony Rigison, that's exactly what you're dealing.

1822
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: With all right now. I'm looking at some teams right

1823
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: now that maybe looking at quarterbacks, and I would have

1824
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,559
Speaker 2: to say, right here and now today, the New Orleans

1825
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: Saints may be in the worst shape as first quarterback

1826
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: than any team in the National Football League this year, agreed.

1827
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not great for them, No, it's not great.

1828
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler's going to be the quarterback? Is that the deal? Probably?

1829
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 3: I would think it seems like if you ask me,

1830
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 3: because I've watched those guys compete two weeks ago, Spencer

1831
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 3: radlery to me, is more ready to play it than

1832
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 3: Tyler Shit is well.

1833
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 2: And I tell you what I think, Anthony Rigidson, probably

1834
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: given the opportunity, with the right team, right coaching staff,

1835
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: probably has more talent than Spencer Rattler.

1836
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: I would think, Yeah, he may have more talent, but

1837
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 3: he's not a better quarterback. See there's difference in terms

1838
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 3: of like we're talking about running a race and doing

1839
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 3: like a picks. Yeah, Anthony Richardson is going to surpass

1840
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 3: Spencer rally, but it comes down to quarterback play and

1841
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: winning quarterback play. Spencer Radland some of these other guys

1842
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 3: who aren't as talented are better players than the guy

1843
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,799
Speaker 3: with more tools.

1844
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to say the Raiders might be a

1845
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,799
Speaker 2: possibility right now. Be stay down one quarterback Aiden O'Connell

1846
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 2: broke his risk yesterday, so maybe they're looking for another

1847
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 2: quarterback on this staff. So I think Richardson is a

1848
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 2: possibility going to the Raiders.

1849
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean like they'll kick guitarres on the butt.

1850
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: Remember, nothing will happen for Richardson until he gets cut.

1851
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 3: He would have to get cut because you don't want

1852
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 3: to be on the hook for his salary, like make

1853
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 3: the Coles have to pay all of that, the guaranteed

1854
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 3: money and those things, and then pick them up on

1855
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: a bargain basement deal. He likely his voiced his concerns

1856
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 3: or what he would like to see if he's traded.

1857
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 3: But for someone to do a trade, you really have

1858
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: to feel like he's going to be a guy that

1859
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 3: can come in and start or whatever. And I just

1860
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: don't know if they're prevailing. Feeling around the league is

1861
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: that on Anthony Richardson.

1862
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 2: I think two other teams that may have somewhat of

1863
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: an interest maybe perhaps look see would be maybe the

1864
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens and Pittsburgh Steelers Fanthony Richardson. So I'm just

1865
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: saying that I don't think Anthony Richardson is going to

1866
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,240
Speaker 2: be out of work. I think I'll have a uniform

1867
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 2: on this year.

1868
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you have a uniform. More people always take

1869
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: a first round pick. Trey Lance has kind of settled

1870
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 3: in and found his way with the La Chargers. He

1871
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: went to the Cowboys after it didn't go well for

1872
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 3: him with the San Francisco forty nine. If someone to

1873
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 3: do the same for richardson of the teams that you named,

1874
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: Baltimore would be intriguing. But the thing about Baltimore is

1875
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: Todd Munket system. He's gonna have to be comfortable and

1876
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: playing in the pocket and doing those things. He has talent,

1877
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 3: but can you bring that out. Maybe Baltimore would be

1878
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 3: the best situation for him because he could sit and

1879
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 3: watch Lamar Jackson every day and learn.

1880
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: And Trey Lance is a perfect example what we talked

1881
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 2: about it early on, a guy who didn't get a

1882
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: a lot of snaps in college out of maybe a

1883
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: difficult time adjusting in the NFL, and now he's sort

1884
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: of learning his way.

1885
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: Well, there's two things with Trey Lance. Not a lot

1886
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 3: of snaps, but also a level of competition. You know,

1887
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 3: he played down a level he didn't play up and

1888
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: sometimes that can be a major factor. And because it

1889
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: was a one and done one for one he played

1890
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 3: one year, really played a game in the COVID season,

1891
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 3: he didn't have a lot of experience when he made

1892
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 3: his way into the league. So it's not only the

1893
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 3: competition junk jump from you know, North Dakota State to

1894
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 3: the NFL, but it's also the lack of experience. So

1895
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 3: he didn't have enough reps to really be an expert

1896
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:41,439
Speaker 3: at what he was doing.

1897
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: I'm glad you touched on that with the competition levelcause

1898
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: we told that a little early as well. But what

1899
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 2: about Ashton genty because he didn't really play with top

1900
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: notch competition either, right.

1901
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: No, he didn't.

1902
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 3: Running backs can be a little different because it's a

1903
01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: handleball and go get it thing. Quarterback can be a

1904
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 3: lot different just because the speed and the pace of

1905
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 3: the game and all that. But some of that can

1906
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 3: be negated if you have significant reps at the level.

1907
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 3: It's a mix and there's no perfect formula. I can't

1908
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 3: give you a cookie cutter recipe to tell you, like, hey,

1909
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 3: this is going to lead to success. This isn't going

1910
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: to lead to success. I can just tell you those

1911
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 3: factors are real when it comes to experience and what

1912
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,040
Speaker 3: it is that you're hoping to accomplish as a collegian

1913
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: trying to make that jump from one level two next.

1914
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 2: I hear you sound okay now, you had a list

1915
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: of eight potential Heisman Trophy candidates, and we said six

1916
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 2: of those eights were quarterback, and obviously that's a quarterback.

1917
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 2: It's a quarterback deal. I mean quarterbacks Heisman Trophy. And

1918
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 2: now I'm going to give you a little bit of

1919
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: a list of from the preseason rookies that look pretty strong,

1920
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: all right, and see if you agree. All right, I'm

1921
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 2: going to throw some rookie names at you, and one

1922
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: of them that comes to mind is the quarterback of

1923
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, Jackson Dart. I think he had

1924
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: a pretty good showing against the Buffalo Bills. Was something

1925
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: like twelve to nineteen, one hundred and somewhere the one

1926
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards I think it was, So it

1927
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: looked pretty good. Jackson Dark to me, maybe maybe the

1928
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: most impressive because he played in New York. Obviously with

1929
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 2: the New York market getting a lot of hype, maybe

1930
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: the most impressive rookie thus far.

1931
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 3: I would think, yeah, he's been like, look, he's been

1932
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 3: really impressive. Now, some of it is also what you said, like,

1933
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Speaker 3: we've kind of blown this thing up a little bit

1934
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Speaker 3: because it's New York and because he's in a major

1935
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: market in those things. But Dark has played well. He's

1936
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 3: played well in the situation that they put him in.

1937
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: They also modified the offense a bit to make sure

1938
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 3: that it.

1939
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Speaker 1: Catered to his game. You're seeing some of the things

1940
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Speaker 1: that he did at ole Miss kind of layered in there.

1941
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Speaker 1: So you give him credit.

1942
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Speaker 3: I mean give him credit for playing well and doing

1943
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Speaker 3: what is asked of him to do, very very early

1944
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Speaker 3: in the preseason.

1945
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Speaker 2: All Right, I'm gonna go now to a running back.

1946
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to t Trevon Henderson because what he

1947
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 2: did in the opening game for the New England Patriots

1948
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 2: against Washington. Uh, he took the opening kickoff one one

1949
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Speaker 2: hundred yards for a touchdown. That that opened up a

1950
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 2: lot of eyes right there. So I think that right

1951
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Speaker 2: now is another rookie. I think you have to say, uh,

1952
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Speaker 2: people will be looking at him, watching him and thumbs

1953
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 2: up thus far.

1954
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 3: In preseason yeahs, thus far he uh the big, big,

1955
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 3: big play early. The return showed you the explosioness, the

1956
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 3: big playability, and that will give you an uh. That'll

1957
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Speaker 3: give you a chance, right, that'll give you a chance

1958
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:44,799
Speaker 3: to get onto the field because everyone wants that dynamic

1959
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 3: playmaker in the kicking game, and they also see the

1960
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 3: value that he could bring if you could put him

1961
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 3: in space. Look, he's been as advertised, which is what

1962
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 3: you want to see from a guy who's really brought

1963
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 3: in to help Drake Matt.

1964
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Speaker 2: Okay, here's here's a sleeper. Here's a guy that I

1965
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 2: don't think anybody expected to do well in the National

1966
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: Football League. He played at Iowa. He led the Football

1967
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Bawl Subdivision and tackles in twenty twenty three. He was

1968
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: a two time first team All Big Ten Honors guy

1969
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 2: and All Conference linebacker twenty twenty four. But he was

1970
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:26,839
Speaker 2: undrafted in April, maybe because he had some poor testing numbers,

1971
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,679
Speaker 2: bad small size, only six foot at two twenty four.

1972
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: His name is Jay Higgins fourth, a linebacker, went to

1973
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens and maybe during the preseason one of

1974
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 2: the better linebackers right now. Don't know who he's playing against,

1975
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 2: but he's making a bit of a name for himself.

1976
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: Have you seen him? Have you heard much about Jay

1977
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 2: Higgins fourth, the linebacker on the Baltimore Ravens.

1978
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 3: What I would tell you about the Baltimore Ravens that

1979
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens are one of the best teams when

1980
01:34:55,640 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 3: it comes to giving guys opportunities. Undrafted free agents who

1981
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 3: come in and have an opportunity to play there will

1982
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: make the team.

1983
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,839
Speaker 1: And so he's been productive. He stood out you talk about.

1984
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 3: The numbers in those things, he'll have an opportunity. May

1985
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 3: not make the active roster right away, but certainly he's

1986
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 3: done enough to command some attention as a practice squad guy.

1987
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,400
Speaker 2: All right, get out of Kansas State, goes to Tampa Bay.

1988
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: He's a cornerback, Jacob Parrish. All right, it looks like

1989
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna start for Tampa Bay at nickel corner and

1990
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,479
Speaker 2: showing the Buccaneers that they did the right deal by

1991
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: getting this guy. So I think that he's another guy

1992
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,240
Speaker 2: with a thumbs up right there.

1993
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but Jacob Parrish came in expected to

1994
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:48,959
Speaker 3: be a starting nickel slash down candidate, great instincts and awareness,

1995
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 3: and he's been as advertised at that position for the

1996
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team that really plays a lot

1997
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: of his own coverage. I's in the backfield, vision and

1998
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 3: break doing those things. Not surprised to see him have

1999
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 3: immediate amount of success.

2000
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm gonna I'm gonna throw a couple of

2001
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:09,160
Speaker 2: names out there that maybe uh, not having that great

2002
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 2: of a preseason, not having a great success, and not

2003
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 2: to say that they may not have a great career,

2004
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 2: but as of now as a rookie in preseason, just

2005
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: some questions. Now, we look at the Las Vegas Raiders

2006
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: had a pretty shaky cornerback situation last year, and what

2007
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 2: do they do. They only drafted one guy in the

2008
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: secondary and this guy was Darian Porter, and he's not

2009
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 2: doing that well right now. He's struggled. I get it.

2010
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,919
Speaker 2: This is a transition, right It's a big sugg struggle

2011
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 2: to go from the college to the pros. It's tough.

2012
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it is tough.

2013
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 3: And I think the thing that we have to be

2014
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 3: mindful of is like sometimes in these games, we don't

2015
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,839
Speaker 3: know what the goal of the team, like their approach

2016
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 3: in terms of, hey, we're just gonna play this coverage

2017
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 3: only just to see how everyone does or whatever. This

2018
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: about Porter, he's only played a position for a little

2019
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 3: over year. Here's a wide receiver for most of his time.

2020
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 3: They made a conversion. His final season at Iowa State,

2021
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 3: he played cornerback. He's a special team standout, which is

2022
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 3: really where he's gonna make his contributions.

2023
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: Eventually he'll get on the field and do.

2024
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 3: Some corner stuff, but I think of him as more

2025
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 3: of a big picture player, someone that's gonna be a

2026
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 3: two phase player special teams and defense as opposed to

2027
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: just being a defensive contributor.

2028
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna also put my thumb down because I

2029
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 2: want to do it to this guy. He's a quarterback

2030
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: on the Cleveland Browns, Dylan Gabriel. I still think shoe

2031
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,720
Speaker 2: dooer standers should be playing in front of him. I

2032
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: know they're gonna go by who was drafted and what

2033
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: round and what order. So he's going to take the

2034
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: situation that Dylan Gabriel will be ahead of should doer standards,

2035
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: at least right now for now, he will be. But

2036
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: I'm not that impressed. I'm not that impressed. And really

2037
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 2: and truly, I'm not so certain forty year old Joe

2038
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 2: Flacco is going to make it through the season. What

2039
01:37:59,280 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 2: do you think?

2040
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 3: What a few different things they played? Dylan Gabriel played

2041
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 3: like they thought he would play. His experience has paid off.

2042
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 3: He had a really good drive let him on a

2043
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 3: score against the Rams the last preseason game, and he

2044
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 3: settled in After a topsy turvy performance against the Eagles,

2045
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 3: he bounced back and played well. Sudar Sanders didn't play

2046
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 3: as well. People talk about he played with the threes

2047
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 3: in those things, but five sacks and four of those

2048
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 3: were on him more so than the line.

2049
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Speaker 1: That's not good enough.

2050
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Speaker 3: I think what everyone has to understand is evaluators don't

2051
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 3: see these things in a vacuum. They look at the

2052
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: entire body of work from the beginning of training camp

2053
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,639
Speaker 3: all the way through the last preseason game, and they'll

2054
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 3: make those decisions based on that.

2055
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Speaker 1: But Gable has been.

2056
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 3: Solid and that might just be enough for the peck

2057
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,080
Speaker 3: in order to say the change on the stay the

2058
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 3: same on the depth chart.

2059
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 2: But did the evaluators not just look at how they played?

2060
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,839
Speaker 2: Did they also look at who they played against?

2061
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2062
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 3: Always, I mean you always are looking and seeing and

2063
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 3: making sure that you evaluate the player fairly. And you

2064
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 3: can see when you're playing with and against the threes

2065
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 3: as opposed to playing with and against the ones, that

2066
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 3: level of adversity reveals something about who you are as

2067
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 3: a player in a prospect. But yeah, evaluators have been

2068
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 3: at this for a while where they're able to kind

2069
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,879
Speaker 3: of grade on a curve great correctly based on situation

2070
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:27,640
Speaker 3: and circumstance.

2071
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 2: Oh help me out here. Now, I'm gonna throw a

2072
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 2: little loop in here. I'm going over now. I want

2073
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: to talk about the Tennessee Titans for a second, because

2074
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 2: when you draft a quarterback as the number one pick

2075
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 2: in the draft, and they did that with cam Ward,

2076
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 2: you would think that the national media would at least

2077
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 2: converge on this guy. Let us know what's going on,

2078
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 2: how he's playing, what he looks like, and what he

2079
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 2: may be doing. We haven't heard squat about cam Miller

2080
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 2: cam Ward if we really haven't heard much about him

2081
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 2: obviously because there's so many other things going on with

2082
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons and obviously what you do

2083
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 2: with standers. What is the story with cam Ward? How

2084
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 2: is he going to do and what is he going

2085
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:13,719
Speaker 2: to do with Tennessee.

2086
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 3: Look, man, I think people around Tennessee love cam Ward

2087
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:24,240
Speaker 3: and what he brings, not only from a tool standpoint,

2088
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 3: but from a leadership standpoint. He's an alpha dog, he's competitive,

2089
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 3: he's feisty, doesn't mind being with the underdog, and.

2090
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: He makes place.

2091
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 3: He's a playmaker, and they haven't been able to put

2092
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 3: it together completely. But he's shown flashes and that's why

2093
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:40,599
Speaker 3: you're encouraged by his play.

2094
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because you know with Bill Callahan

2095
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: there as an offensive coordinative and now head coach. I

2096
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 2: think he's going to do rather well. But I think

2097
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: that if you're cam, you're kind of happy you're in

2098
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: the shadow that they're not talking about you. I mean,

2099
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,560
Speaker 2: that creates a lot of pressure when they do. And

2100
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 2: really and truly we don't here much nationally. I'm sure

2101
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: in Tennessee is getting a lot of play, but other

2102
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 2: than that, we don't hear much about him.

2103
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he still, uh is under pressure. Make no mistake,

2104
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 3: when you're the number one overall pick, you're under pressure.

2105
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: Now he would like to be.

2106
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 3: More spotlight on him because more spotlight leads to more

2107
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,080
Speaker 3: opportunities to get paid off the field. But for now

2108
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,799
Speaker 3: it works, but everyone is going to pay closer attention

2109
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 3: to him and his performance as we get into the

2110
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Speaker 3: regular season.

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Speaker 2: There we go. He's Bucket Brooks on Ay Firman, get

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Speaker 2: Buckey Brooks on next at Bucket Brooks at Andy Furman

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Speaker 2: FSR eight seven seven ninety nine Fox is our phone

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Speaker 2: number that translates to eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: six three six nine. In this hour we will have

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Speaker 2: the blame game? But is bigger really better? We'll tell

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Speaker 2: you next. All right, here we go, and by the way,

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Speaker 2: where would they go?

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Speaker 8: Where to go?

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just about a minute. He's

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Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Fermanwell, Fox Sports Sunday a Fox

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Speaker 2: Bots Radia. We'll have the blame Game in about twelve

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Speaker 2: So let's get rolling right now. Now. You know that

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Speaker 2: colleges need to get some revenue right now, Athletic departments

2134
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,719
Speaker 2: need to be creative. They got to raise some revenue.

2135
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Speaker 2: And what they've done bucket. You know this, they have paid.

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Speaker 2: They're making you pay for some practice in the spring,

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Speaker 2: for spring practice, for football, the spring game. A lot

2138
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Speaker 2: of these schools are charging admission now they're doing this.

2139
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Speaker 2: This is amazing. I don't know if you heard this one.

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Speaker 2: In order to be creative to raise revenue now, because

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Speaker 2: they not only have to pay the coach big time money,

2142
01:42:57,160 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 2: they got to pay the players. They are now get this,

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01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:06,640
Speaker 2: they are now selling the postgame media press conferences to

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Speaker 2: the public. It's unbelievable. Really, what do you think about that?

2145
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 2: Before I roll on on this, what do you think

2146
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 2: about their opening up the press conferences so the public

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01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 2: could attend and see what goes on at the press

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Speaker 2: conference after the game.

2149
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 3: If they're buying, I'm selling. So if people are going

2150
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 3: to pay for access, then I'm gonna continue to sell it.

2151
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,799
Speaker 3: I have to find ways to raise our revenue.

2152
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: This is a new model.

2153
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 3: This is a landscape that wein and if I'm gonna

2154
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 3: have to revenue share and pay and do all these things,

2155
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,600
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna do it.

2156
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 1: That's what I have to do. This is what it is.

2157
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 3: Look, we can call it collegiate sports, but we're operating

2158
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:51,679
Speaker 3: like professionals, and the NFL makes you pay for access.

2159
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised to see colleges begin to talk about, hey,

2160
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 3: let's make the public our fans pay for some of

2161
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 3: this content out that we used to put out for free.

2162
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 2: Now you just said the NFL makes you pay fast

2163
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 2: in the words the public or go to the post

2164
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,640
Speaker 2: game deals in the prose too. I didn't know that.

2165
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 3: No, they don't do that, but I'm just saying, like,

2166
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,640
Speaker 3: if you just think about all the different things that

2167
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 3: you have to pay for to get behind the scenes

2168
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 3: access in those things, like, for instance, I don't know

2169
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 3: if you're watching Netflix and the deal with Jerry Jones

2170
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:27,560
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys and those things, things are on subscription

2171
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:31,639
Speaker 3: based models. Hard Knocks is on a subscription based thing.

2172
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 3: We're paying for that access to these things. We may

2173
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 3: not know it, but we're paying for these things. And

2174
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:40,240
Speaker 3: NFL has an app, NFL Plus, where you're paying for

2175
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 3: more access. That's the nature of it. I am not

2176
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 3: surprised that colleges has started to go to some of this.

2177
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 2: It's amazing. And look, you've been to your share of

2178
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 2: postgame news conferences. I'm sure I'm going to kind of

2179
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,600
Speaker 2: set it up so for those people who may be

2180
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 2: interested right now, getting really excited, say, look, I want

2181
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: to do this with their favorite college team. It's in

2182
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:06,479
Speaker 2: a place which is a small, cramped, clammy room with

2183
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 2: a microphone, and the background on the stage is a

2184
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 2: sponsored background, And really and truly it's somewhat boring. You

2185
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,839
Speaker 2: got players that don't want to be there and coaches

2186
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 2: that really don't say much, unless maybe once in a

2187
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 2: while they'll attack a reporter and say, that's a stupid question.

2188
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 2: That basically is what it is, right, I.

2189
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 3: Mean it is, but if the question is stupid, it's

2190
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 3: okay to call it stupid question. Yeah, I mean basically,

2191
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 3: what you're doing is you're in the bottles of the stadium.

2192
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 1: You have like a seating area.

2193
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 3: I would think that if they're selling it, they'll move

2194
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,080
Speaker 3: it to a nicer place, like a little mini auditorium

2195
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 3: or the team meeting room so that you can go

2196
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 3: in there and.

2197
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: You know, like actually listen and to do those things.

2198
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, paying for access, that's I mean, I can't.

2199
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 2: Say it's pretty d I will say it's pretty created.

2200
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 2: It's a good idea. Whoever thought about this really, and

2201
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the school that's doing it

2202
01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 2: right now. But you have the coach and a PA

2203
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: or players doing their best, really and truly to avoid

2204
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,639
Speaker 2: saying anything that will wind up getting them really toasted

2205
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 2: and roasted on social media, all right, And also you

2206
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 2: have reporters out there. It's just kind of push and push, push,

2207
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 2: try to get them to say something. So I'm hoping

2208
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,679
Speaker 2: that if and when it's opened up to most colleges,

2209
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 2: I think colleges are going to start doing this. They

2210
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 2: don't permit the public who are paying their way in

2211
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 2: there to start asking questions too. That would be bad.

2212
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 2: So I will tell you the course right now, Oklahoma

2213
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 2: University is doing it. They're selling access for six hundred

2214
01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 2: and ninety two dollars and eleven cents where they get

2215
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 2: that from to the upcoming game against Michigan on September sixth.

2216
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 2: That six hundred and ninety two bucks and eleven cents

2217
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,800
Speaker 2: is a ticket that admits two, so it comes out

2218
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 2: to about three hundred and forty six dollars ahead. And

2219
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 2: they go there after the game for the postgame press

2220
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 2: conference and for the prior weight that Oklahoma's playing Illinois State.

2221
01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 2: That's only four and that game is sold out. It's

2222
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 2: sold out. So the Oklahoma people are buying, and what

2223
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma is selling, the public's buying. I'm telling you it's

2224
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 2: gonna catch on. I'm not saying it's gonna catch on

2225
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 2: every school. I bet it happens at Ohio State. It

2226
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 2: will happen in Kentucky Basketball for sure. I know that

2227
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen to a good handful of schools around

2228
01:47:21,040 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: the country. And they're gonna make some good money on this.

2229
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll make some money. The access is everything like,

2230
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 3: they'll they'll make some money on it. They'll have an

2231
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 3: opportunity to cash in a little bit offset some of

2232
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 3: the costs that are killing them. You know, we talk

2233
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 3: about the costs that are killing them, just player labor

2234
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 3: being everything, Like just having to pay the player says,

2235
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 3: really put a little dentt in everyone's budget. This is

2236
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: a way to offset some of that. I don't know

2237
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 3: how much money they'll make off of it, but they'll

2238
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: make enough. They certainly are gonna make enough to make

2239
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 3: it entertaining for them, no doubt about that.

2240
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Speaker 2: People want to go where no one ever goes before

2241
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: I mean people want to go. They can say I

2242
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 2: was there. I mean, you know, the late Bobby Knight.

2243
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 2: I mean, may he rest in peace. People would have

2244
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 2: loved to have gone. I don't think he would permit this, really,

2245
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:12,720
Speaker 2: but people would have loved to have gone to see

2246
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 2: him go ballistic at a postgame presser. They really would

2247
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 2: have loved to see that. And then they can go

2248
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:20,360
Speaker 2: back and tell their friends, you know, you see that

2249
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 2: on TV as that oh TV, I was there. I

2250
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: was there when it' happened. People love that. People would

2251
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 2: love to be there. So I think this is gonna

2252
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: catch on like wildfire. And honestly and truly, I give

2253
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,280
Speaker 2: a five star commend this guy whoever decided to do it.

2254
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 2: And Oklahoma has been first, so you know, we'll see

2255
01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 2: what happens. It's gonna catch on. It's gonna catch on

2256
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 2: in North Carolina. They're gonna want to see Bill Belichick

2257
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 2: on the postgame news conference. And believe me, Belichick won't

2258
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 2: say more than five words. He doesn't talk of those presses.

2259
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: He really doesn't.

2260
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. But you know, you

2261
01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: know what's happening in North Carolina. You'll keep us informed.

2262
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: If they're gonna sell the postgame press conferences there, I'm

2263
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 2: sure Bucky you'll let us know.

2264
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's you know. Oh listen, I haven't heard, but

2265
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure at some point to do it.

2266
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 2: All right, could we talk a little something about one

2267
01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 2: of your favorite sports, which is baseball. And I hate

2268
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: to bring it up because I know your Dodgers are

2269
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 2: no longer in first place, the San Diego Padres, But

2270
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about something else in the sport

2271
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:18,719
Speaker 2: of baseball. Last week, during the broadcast of the Little

2272
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 2: League Classic they call it now not the World Series,

2273
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 2: the Little League Classic, Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manford,

2274
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 2: he was talking about expansion and realignment. Is it too much?

2275
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 2: And where do they go expansion? You know, why do

2276
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 2: they want to expand? You know, when you have a

2277
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 2: question about something in the world of sports, that always

2278
01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:41,320
Speaker 2: comes back to one thing, and that's money. The green

2279
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 2: cabbage of salvation. It's all about the money because the

2280
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 2: owners will get an expansion fee if in fact they expand.

2281
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 2: I think expansion's good. Why, it's got a great jobs.

2282
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 2: A lot of people get judged that's a good thing.

2283
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 2: But I think it also dilutes the talent, don't you agree.

2284
01:49:58,120 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it can die.

2285
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:04,160
Speaker 3: I guess it depends on which teams, which cities they

2286
01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: would go to. Like I would personally love for them

2287
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 3: to make their way back into Canada and go to

2288
01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:11,719
Speaker 3: the startup to Montreal Expos Again. People have talked about

2289
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 3: that I missed the exposed, I miss seeing them or whatever.

2290
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what other teams or what other cities

2291
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 3: they were venture into. But to me, if I'm a

2292
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 3: fight for another team, I'm gonna say, let's go, let's

2293
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 3: go to the expos.

2294
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Let's do the Xpos.

2295
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 2: You know what. I'm with you on that. I'm with

2296
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 2: you on the Expos. I don't know right now how

2297
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 2: difficult it'll be going through crossing the border, but I

2298
01:50:31,400 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 2: guess what athletes you could get that done. But you

2299
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 2: hit on a point over there. You know, they want

2300
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 2: to go to thirty two teams instead of the thirty

2301
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 2: were on out.

2302
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:39,320
Speaker 8: Where do you go?

2303
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,879
Speaker 2: I mean, who's available that they're talking about? Nashville? Nashville

2304
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 2: has been very hot over the list several years getting

2305
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 2: a team in Nashville. But what's available Portland? I don't know, Charlotte, Orlando.

2306
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean sot Lake City has become kind of a

2307
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: sports city now they got the NBA and they got

2308
01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 2: the NHL. It's so like city a possibility for baseball.

2309
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, So you hit it right on the head.

2310
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Besides Nashville and maybe Montreal, I don't

2311
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 2: know where else you can go.

2312
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know. I think

2313
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 3: Nashville is fine, like because it puts you in the South.

2314
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what teams because you know,

2315
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 3: you got to balance the books when it comes to

2316
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:22,640
Speaker 3: if you can do thirty two, you got to make

2317
01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 3: sure it's balance in both leagues. You don't want to

2318
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 3: have one league with more teams than the other one,

2319
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,080
Speaker 3: you know, with eighteen and the other with fourteen. So

2320
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 3: you got to balance it up, make sure it's even. Yeah,

2321
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting.

2322
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, Nashville certainly would have some play because it

2323
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,759
Speaker 1: is a major city. They do have all the sports.

2324
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 3: Well not really because they don't have NBA Basketball Tennessee

2325
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:46,680
Speaker 3: that's in Memphis the Grizzlies.

2326
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:50,200
Speaker 1: But they do have hockey. They got the pro team

2327
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: for the NFL team, so maybe you put baseball there.

2328
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they're complete it.

2329
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: Who knows. I mean, I don't really care if they

2330
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 2: expand it.

2331
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 1: They don't.

2332
01:51:57,720 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 2: I just was interested when he started talking about that.

2333
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 2: The last expansion of basketball is nineteen ninety eight when

2334
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and Arizona came to the league. But the

2335
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 2: one thing that really irked me when I read about

2336
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 2: this is that they want to change the name the

2337
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 2: American League National League. They want to change that from

2338
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 2: that to East and West. And I got to believe

2339
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 2: American League and National League at least for the baseball fan,

2340
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 2: for the purest and you're a purist, you're a baseball

2341
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 2: purest fan. I think those names are sacred. I don't

2342
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 2: think you could change that to East and West. You

2343
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,759
Speaker 2: got to keep American League Nationally, don't you agree.

2344
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2345
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 3: I'm okay with Like if you want to change it, like,

2346
01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 3: what does it matter? I mean, American League, National League,

2347
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 3: those things. I mean, it will change everything because if

2348
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:44,080
Speaker 3: you go east to West, well now you kind of

2349
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 3: upset the Alpacar because the American International League have East

2350
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:50,879
Speaker 3: and West divisions, So it changes everything.

2351
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a way. I mean, I don't know

2352
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 1: if you have to do anything to be honest.

2353
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:58,600
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it would be easier to name it

2354
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 2: East and West because I think if you want to

2355
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: keep some rivalries, you'll know the Yankees and Red Sox

2356
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 2: they probably have to be in the East, and that's

2357
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,320
Speaker 2: the East, and they want to keep that rivalry there.

2358
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 2: And I think maybe you ought to put the Mets

2359
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 2: in that division as well. I mean, they talk about realignment,

2360
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 2: Dodgers and Giants have to be in the same division,

2361
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 2: but maybe they put the Angels in there as well.

2362
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 2: So I think they're going to realign everything. Look, I

2363
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:20,400
Speaker 2: think baseball change. I don't think it changed for the

2364
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 2: better when they basically made interleague play. I think on

2365
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:29,040
Speaker 2: paper it sounded really interesting and exciting, but I think

2366
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: there was something secretive about the all start game every

2367
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 2: year when you saw people and players from the other

2368
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 2: league that you never got to see unless the World Series.

2369
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 2: Really I think that was a big deal. I think

2370
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: in the league play kind of hurt that room that

2371
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 2: to some extent, and I rather see teams play each

2372
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 2: other more within their division because it means more. Those

2373
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 2: games mean more, especially going down for a pennant race.

2374
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'd like to see. I think in the

2375
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:00,640
Speaker 2: league play sort of hurt baseball. Maybe I'm crazy, maybe disagree,

2376
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 2: but I just think in the league play was not

2377
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 2: the greatest of all ideas. Money wise, it may be.

2378
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 2: I think when the Yankees go to Denver and they

2379
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,799
Speaker 2: played Denver, you know, I remember they raised the prices

2380
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 2: of tickets they charged per team, you know, interest per team,

2381
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 2: and when the Yankees going to Denver, they charged more

2382
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: money to see the Yankees play because more people want

2383
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 2: to see the Yankees. But other than that, I don't

2384
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 2: think the advantage of inter league play.

2385
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it did take some of the novelty

2386
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,280
Speaker 3: off of those matchups that we would see either All

2387
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 3: Star Game or in the World Series when you did

2388
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 3: go to interleague play, Like yeah, like you used to

2389
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 3: only see your teams over and over and over again,

2390
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 3: teams within that conference or whatever National League, American League,

2391
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 3: teams within the league over and over again. When you

2392
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 3: did open it up. Yeah, it was fine for a

2393
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 3: little bit, like some of the rivalries that we saw

2394
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 3: like the Chicago the Cubs in the White Sox and

2395
01:54:56,960 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 3: those things Dodgers, Angels, But after wow, that's all worn

2396
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 3: off now, and so is it really worth Is it

2397
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 3: worth it?

2398
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 1: To kind of break it up like they've done.

2399
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,919
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to upset you by bringing up baseball

2400
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,160
Speaker 2: and your Dodgers. I really didn't, So I won't do it.

2401
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no,

2402
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: no no, I'm fine. This temporary is temporary, like it's

2403
01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: it's amazing in LA. We just worried about the big things.

2404
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 3: So once we get to the postseason and those things,

2405
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna get a ticket into the tournament.

2406
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: And then once we get into the tournament, we kind of.

2407
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,080
Speaker 2: Know what to do, all right, and we'll see time

2408
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 2: will tell. There we go. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Firman.

2409
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 2: We are Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports ready on

2410
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 2: his time to let off some steam. Why the blame

2411
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 2: Dame is freaking next the blame game coming right up.

2412
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,440
Speaker 2: He is Bucky Brooks them Andy Firman. We are Fox

2413
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. That will lie from

2414
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios. By the way, it's about

2415
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 2: eleven minutes before the top of the hour. That will

2416
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 2: be nine o'clock on the East coast, and that means

2417
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 2: countdown where Brian no j schwatch it built krackt Burgers,

2418
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 2: So keep it right here on fox Spot's radio. But

2419
01:56:04,160 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 2: right now, let's go to a little dumper at his

2420
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 2: time for the blame game.

2421
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 1: Ruin me, it's all your fault.

2422
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 2: No, it's your fault.

2423
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 6: Is all your fault? Maybe it's everyone's faults. A liar,

2424
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:23,640
Speaker 6: that's why there's the blame game. Let's figure out who

2425
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:24,240
Speaker 6: to blame.

2426
01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,280
Speaker 2: He's a liar. Oh that's you. That's you.

2427
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, I'm not a liing today.

2428
01:56:30,680 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 6: A liar?

2429
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 8: Okay, maybe I am a little said that? Who did

2430
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:35,480
Speaker 8: say that?

2431
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: Some big loud mouth? Oh?

2432
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 8: Why I YadA. I'm gonna give that one a good

2433
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 8: one too. Well, speaking of giving someone a good one too,

2434
01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:50,560
Speaker 8: Shiloh Sanders yesterday at his preseason game was ejected. Why

2435
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 8: for punching the opposed one of the opposing offensive players.

2436
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:56,800
Speaker 8: I think it was a tight end. So he got

2437
01:56:56,840 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 8: ejected for throwing a punch.

2438
01:56:58,120 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 1: Who do you blame for that one?

2439
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 2: And well, you know what, though, I'm a Sanders guy, Okay,

2440
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 2: so it's not really fair. So I'm gonna say the

2441
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: punch was deserved. He deserved because I looked at that

2442
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 2: tape several times and it looked like he was throwing

2443
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: the punch after he got hit. After he got Usually

2444
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 2: the guy that throws the second one against caught, and

2445
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: he got caught. But you know what, he got a

2446
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 2: good lock. First of all, I don't understand why anybody

2447
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 2: would ever throw a punch with the guy's wearing a helmet.

2448
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: That's the stupidest thing I have saw. I mean, when

2449
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,920
Speaker 2: football players punch one another with helmets on, that's kind

2450
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,200
Speaker 2: of dumb. But you know what, I'm not blaming mister

2451
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: Sanders on this one. Ain't his fault.

2452
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna blame him because he cast himself a

2453
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 3: great opportunity. The third preseason's game is a game where

2454
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 3: they play all the second and third stringers the entire game.

2455
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,320
Speaker 3: So for a guy that is fighting to make a roster,

2456
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,040
Speaker 3: the decision was silly. He has to be able to

2457
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 3: walk away from that and keep the main thing, the

2458
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,880
Speaker 3: main thing. The main thing is to play, put good

2459
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 3: tape on there and get myself a chance to make

2460
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 3: a roster. He hurt himself and he may ultimately paid

2461
01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 3: the ultimate consequence by being cut because he didn't finish

2462
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 3: the game.

2463
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 2: I had that guy back there. He's one of those

2464
01:58:13,480 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 2: guys that paid his way into the press conference.

2465
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 8: Oh man, well let's go to college football here, guys,

2466
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 8: the Kansas State Iowa State for yesterday's a college football opener.

2467
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:24,640
Speaker 8: Who do you blame? Bucky?

2468
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Look, I don't blame anybody. I loved it.

2469
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 3: I love the fact that they were over in Ireland

2470
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,760
Speaker 3: playing the game. Teams that we normally don't see you

2471
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:33,240
Speaker 3: on TV. They got a chance to play on a

2472
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,680
Speaker 3: big stage. So I love it, great opportunity.

2473
01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 2: I blame the commissioners because there's gotta be Look, there's

2474
01:58:39,160 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 2: gotta be too. Give me some names. Okay, Kansas State

2475
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 2: and Iowa State. I'm not named players, they're not. May

2476
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,440
Speaker 2: come on, it was a good game. There's no doubt

2477
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 2: in my mind it was a good game. But again,

2478
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's not about the game that's played. It's

2479
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 2: about the marquee on the on the board that sells,

2480
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: not the game. It's the marquee and they not really

2481
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,440
Speaker 2: you look what people in Dublin are pretty stupid anyway,

2482
01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: they really are. They don't know. If they wouldn't, you

2483
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 2: know what, I would tell you this much, little dumper,

2484
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 2: you meet Bucky and Mark could suit up on one

2485
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 2: of those teams and they'd still pay the gocus. They

2486
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:12,640
Speaker 2: would know a difference.

2487
01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:16,760
Speaker 8: Why was so mean to iron to Irish people? Man,

2488
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2489
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:22,640
Speaker 2: They're always they're always They're always loaded. That's why you

2490
01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 2: treat twenty four hours a day.

2491
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Oh man.

2492
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 8: The Irish are my people.

2493
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 5: Man.

2494
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: I love Irish. They drink all the time.

2495
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you for that. Mighty well, let's speaking

2496
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 8: of a team that makes us all want to drink more.

2497
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 8: We have the Cowboys, Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones and Mica

2498
01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 8: is agents the whole negotiating stalemate that we're at right now.

2499
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 8: Who is to blame for this whole mess?

2500
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 1: Buggy Jerry Jones.

2501
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 3: This is the deal that should have been done two

2502
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: years ago. But Jerry Jones continues to like to play

2503
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,920
Speaker 3: these things out with his stars. He doesn't want to

2504
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 3: pay anybody doesn't like paying his bills.

2505
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 1: And it's his fault because now you have this disrupted team.

2506
02:00:04,280 --> 02:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Disrupt this disjointed team is just stupid, and so he's

2507
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 1: the blame.

2508
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 2: I sometimes do agree with Bucket Brooks. I'm agreeing right now.

2509
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:17,960
Speaker 2: Say it is it is in fact, Jerry, Jerry, wake up,

2510
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 2: wake up, Come on, sign the kid, will you geez.

2511
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 8: Well, we're gonna go from the NFL to college ball.

2512
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 8: We're gonna go SEC. So the SEC wants nine regular

2513
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 8: season games next season. The Big Ten also is talking

2514
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 8: about going to twenty four to twenty eight teams for

2515
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 8: the college football playoffs. We mentioned that earlier. But who

2516
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 8: do you blame for this whole idea? In concept?

2517
02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:43,960
Speaker 1: There?

2518
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 2: Andy? You know what though, this time, I'm not gonna

2519
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:48,320
Speaker 2: say it's a blame. I think the commissioners are doing

2520
02:00:48,360 --> 02:00:50,520
Speaker 2: something really smart. They want to get more teams in there.

2521
02:00:50,600 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 2: They go to eliminate the bowl games, more competition, more games.

2522
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 2: There will be a great tournament right now.

2523
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:55,960
Speaker 9: I like it.

2524
02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming anybody on this.

2525
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I love it. I just love to

2526
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:03,240
Speaker 1: seeing more teams play, So I'm good with it.

2527
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:06,640
Speaker 2: There we go, by the way, that's it, Curtain coming down,

2528
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 2: Countdown next on Fox. See you next week,