Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour.
Speaker 2: We're back. Thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: We are so excited to be back. Kathy, how are
Speaker 1: you today.
Speaker 3: The truth being known, I am freezing in Austin, Texas,
Speaker 3: sunny Texas. It's forty one degrees in raining, but I'm great.
Speaker 3: I've gotten so much done today, got up at five
Speaker 3: point thirty. I'm feeling like totally energetic.
Speaker 1: So that's because you went to bed really early. I
Speaker 1: remember calling your list.
Speaker 3: Well I did. I did go to bed early. But
Speaker 3: you know what, here's the deal. It doesn't matter what
Speaker 3: time I go to bed. I wake up three hours later,
Speaker 3: go back to sleep, wake up three hours later. Do
Speaker 3: you remember the day, Susan, do you being in a
Speaker 3: golden Do you remember the days when you could sleep
Speaker 3: through the night. We're gonna you know this, Let you know,
Speaker 3: this is a good segue because today we're going to
Speaker 3: get into all things self care. Okay, so before we
Speaker 3: get started, and Susan, you gotta tell me what does
Speaker 3: self care mean to you, because that's what this episode
Speaker 3: is all about.
Speaker 1: Self care to me is taking the time to treat
Speaker 1: my body the way it should be treated, whether it's
Speaker 1: given myself a facial going to have a better cure,
Speaker 1: like take time out to take care of me. Washing
Speaker 1: my face before I go to sleep at night is
Speaker 1: really the hardest thing I've ever done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say, well, you know what I.
Speaker 1: Might face before I watched TV, or it's not going
Speaker 1: to happen because I'll fall asleep on the couch.
Speaker 3: I would We're going to get into the specifics of
Speaker 3: what we do. But for me, the twenty thousand view
Speaker 3: of self care is doing things for myself without feeling guilt,
Speaker 3: without the feeling that I should be doing something for
Speaker 3: someone else. That's the twenty thous would do for me because.
Speaker 1: T about I'm sorry, why would you feel guilty about
Speaker 1: doing something for yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, let's just say when you have grandchildren or you
Speaker 3: have errands to run it sometimes, Susan, for me, it
Speaker 3: comes down to am I going to put a mask on?
Speaker 3: Or am I gonna you know, uh, get something ready
Speaker 3: for dinner or plan for the next day. In other words,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's an either or, and for me, self care
Speaker 3: is doing the or for me and not and not
Speaker 3: saying I should be doing something else. But let's dive in.
Speaker 3: Let's dive into this whole topic and and we'll see
Speaker 3: what comes out of this. First off, how does self
Speaker 3: care change from when you are younger to when you're
Speaker 3: in your golden years? How is your self care different? Down? All?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Off, all that I didn't need so much self care
Speaker 1: back then. Oh wait, well I got to do the
Speaker 1: red light. I gotta do this, I gotta do this.
Speaker 1: I got to moisturize more.
Speaker 2: I have to. It's way different.
Speaker 3: So you so that's interesting in your definition of self care.
Speaker 3: It sounds like or what you just said that it
Speaker 3: has to do with beauty of facial care, skincare. And
Speaker 3: for me, self care is such a bigger topic for me.
Speaker 2: Let me finish. Wait, let me finish.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: The other things that are really important now when I'm
Speaker 1: golden is having time to just sit and just whether
Speaker 1: you meditate or it's a hot bubble bath and just
Speaker 1: have quiet time. Right because I have so many things
Speaker 1: going on at one time, it's critical for me because
Speaker 1: a lot of times I neglect that part. And I'll
Speaker 1: do it when I'm on an airplane or I'll do
Speaker 1: it when you know, that is really really important that
Speaker 1: you take time for yourself, whether you're doing absolutely nothing right.
Speaker 3: So so I jumped on that because you were talking about,
Speaker 3: you know, washing your face and putting, doing a red
Speaker 3: light and for me, self care can it's all those things.
Speaker 3: It's it's also getting massages, get it. I get a
Speaker 3: massage regularly. Get you know, I get a facial once
Speaker 3: a month. But in general, for me, take self care
Speaker 3: for me is taking an hour out to sit down
Speaker 3: and read a book, or you know, I loft a
Speaker 3: needle point. I there's things. I know. I need to
Speaker 3: run an air and I need to get over to
Speaker 3: the bank and do this or that. I know I
Speaker 3: said i'd pick up something for my daughter or my son,
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm going to sit down a
Speaker 3: needle point for an hour.
Speaker 2: That's your enjoyment.
Speaker 3: It's it's self care. It's a time for me to
Speaker 3: just do something for myself. And I think when we
Speaker 3: I know you and I each have three children, they're
Speaker 3: grown and we both have grandchildren. But to answer that question,
Speaker 3: when I was younger, I don't even I mean, if
Speaker 3: I got self care, if I took any time for
Speaker 3: self care, it was at ten o'clock at night, after
Speaker 3: the dishes were done. The lunches were packed, the laundry
Speaker 3: was put away. I mean I maybe snuck thirty minutes
Speaker 3: to read a book or I couldn't. I mean, this
Speaker 3: is what I'm saying, I have a bass ouse. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, I do have a lot of energy. Where
Speaker 3: where in your golden years? I think it's we have
Speaker 3: the luxury of time. Even though you and I work
Speaker 3: part time, even though we take care of our grandchildren,
Speaker 3: sometimes we help out our kids, We do lots of things.
Speaker 3: It's just we're able. I think, at least I am
Speaker 3: to build time into my day to do things just
Speaker 3: for me. When and when I had kids at home,
Speaker 3: I was the last person on the totem pole. My
Speaker 3: kids came first, Then was my husband what he needed well,
Speaker 3: and just spending time with him, which is self care
Speaker 3: for the relationship. But it wasn't doing something just for me.
Speaker 1: Something I need to do more of, all right. The
Speaker 1: next one says, what's something you think a lot of
Speaker 1: golden's neglect to take off, well, just.
Speaker 3: To take off to take care of, to take care
Speaker 3: of for me. My experience has been lots of goldens
Speaker 3: don't take care of their physical, their bodies. They just
Speaker 3: don't take care. They're too busy. You know, I don't
Speaker 3: know what they're doing. Because to me, that's another form
Speaker 3: of self care for me. You know, today I have
Speaker 3: a day from hell. I am My son in law
Speaker 3: and my daughter are both out of town. They have
Speaker 3: a babysitter staying with their daughter. But they want me
Speaker 3: to go over and check on her. So I've been
Speaker 3: rushing like a mad woman all day to get stuff
Speaker 3: done so that I can get over there this evening
Speaker 3: and make sure everything is okay.
Speaker 2: But you know what else I phone call won't do.
Speaker 2: She wants you to do it in person.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that's this is the first time when
Speaker 3: she's only two, and this is the first time when
Speaker 3: both her parents are gone out of town. So I'm
Speaker 3: going to go over there and read her stories, and
Speaker 3: you know, Kiki's going to come to the rescue. But
Speaker 3: you know what else I made time for. I drove
Speaker 3: the half hour to the gym, I worked out for
Speaker 3: an hour, I came, drove a half hour home. Like
Speaker 3: that is self care. I'm making time for the gym,
Speaker 3: something else to go by the way.
Speaker 2: You always keep up with.
Speaker 3: Wait, Susan, don't you want to know what I'm not
Speaker 3: going to do today to make time for the gym.
Speaker 3: But you're not what I'm not going to do tonight?
Speaker 3: What cook?
Speaker 2: Cook? You never cook?
Speaker 1: That doesn't count absolutely, what do you think?
Speaker 2: No, I'm still eating leftovers.
Speaker 3: Wait, I read the paper or heard it on the today.
Speaker 3: Today was the last day, so yes, from Thanksgiving? Get
Speaker 3: rid of that stuff. It's over. What do you think
Speaker 3: the Golden's neglect? What's one thing you think they neglect?
Speaker 2: To take off their makeup at night?
Speaker 3: Seriously? You all right, Susan truth ceremony.
Speaker 2: You're too tire. That's one of my pet thieves.
Speaker 3: Wait, by do you go to bed without taking off
Speaker 3: your makeup?
Speaker 1: I have many times. Yes, it's terrible, and I see
Speaker 1: it in the morning. There's such a difference.
Speaker 2: But to take.
Speaker 1: Time, I gotta do it, Like especially if I'm just
Speaker 1: at home and I had something to do during the day,
Speaker 1: so I had to put a face on. If I
Speaker 1: have nothing to do, there's never makeup on my face ever.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, this, this is this is crazy because this
Speaker 3: goes right into the next question, which is skick care
Speaker 3: is all the us right now? What's the key to
Speaker 3: take care of your skin that everyone should know about
Speaker 3: and what's the truth behind anti aging? So go for
Speaker 3: the first one. First, What are the first one?
Speaker 1: Something that I just adopted in my adult, adult adult
Speaker 1: life is sunscreen.
Speaker 2: Oh thank god you said that big time sunscreen.
Speaker 3: That is I was. That is. If you aren't using sunscreen,
Speaker 3: go back to start, do not collect two hundred dollars,
Speaker 3: go to jail. You know you have got to use sunscreen.
Speaker 3: The other thing is not oystizer.
Speaker 1: Well that's not only sunscreen, but cleansing is so important
Speaker 1: and exfoliating.
Speaker 3: Look at you at least.
Speaker 2: Once or twice a week.
Speaker 1: But these are the things I try to rush in
Speaker 1: my schedule, and half the time I'm so tired. That's
Speaker 1: why I like that bubble bath night, Katty. I have
Speaker 1: products around the tub. I got music play in.
Speaker 3: It's my I was talking to Sup. But that's up, girlfriend.
Speaker 3: I was talking to you on the phone the other night,
Speaker 3: and I cracked up last because Susan and are chit
Speaker 3: chatting on the phone and she's got all this stuff
Speaker 3: laid out. Remember to give yourself facial and then she said,
Speaker 3: I'm too tired. I can't do any of this.
Speaker 2: Okay, you can't if I already have moisturizer or anything
Speaker 2: on my skin, like I use the Retinoal at night products,
Speaker 2: then you can't use the red mask. You schoold me
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't know, because I was doing fun okay,
Speaker 1: wash my face in order to do the red mask.
Speaker 3: So can I just tell you you're right? I did school.
Speaker 3: You cannot have any products on your face when you're
Speaker 3: doing the red mask. And you know what I do.
Speaker 3: I swear because I do it. For some reason, doing
Speaker 3: that red mask sort of makes me very sleepy, so
Speaker 3: it calms you. It calms me down. So what I
Speaker 3: do is you're gonna laugh, Susan. I leave on all
Speaker 3: the lights. I go around and turn on all the
Speaker 3: lights so I have to get up and so then
Speaker 3: I brush my teeth, I put on the moisturizer, the
Speaker 3: I cream, all of those things. That's why that's how
Speaker 3: I bring.
Speaker 2: I bring the I cream, the night cream, and I
Speaker 2: put it on my night stands. I don't have to
Speaker 2: get out of bed, and I tell Ziggy to touch
Speaker 2: the light.
Speaker 3: That is so funny. I mean, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: feel like I do think the we should, by the way,
Speaker 3: who's ever listening? We want free new red. We want
Speaker 3: new ie masks here. But I honestly, I think a
Speaker 3: lot about I spend a lot more time on my
Speaker 3: face moisturizing. I you know, I cream doing, masks, doing scrubs, doing.
Speaker 2: And she gets a facial once a moire.
Speaker 3: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I'm not so fortunately I do.
Speaker 1: But you know what else I noticed, Kathy, I have
Speaker 1: the driest feet.
Speaker 2: I get a pedicure every four weeks.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, I'm sorry. She gets a pedicure
Speaker 3: every four weeks.
Speaker 1: I have to, but I use a foot cream and
Speaker 1: a if I notice, like now in the winter, they're
Speaker 1: not as bad because you have a sock one.
Speaker 2: But if I'm.
Speaker 1: Barefoot or never barefoot, but flip flops or sand, the
Speaker 1: skin is so dry.
Speaker 2: That's something that happened with age.
Speaker 3: My cuticles are dry, all of that stuff. But here's
Speaker 3: here's here's the truth I think about anti aging or
Speaker 3: you know, aging, whatever aging you, you're not going to
Speaker 3: escape it. None of us are going to escape aging. However,
Speaker 3: there's two things that I think are really important. The
Speaker 3: truth for me about anti aging is you're going to age,
Speaker 3: so accept it and take it with grace.
Speaker 2: But also that the truth.
Speaker 3: That is the truth. But but you if you take
Speaker 3: care of your body, if you do the things for
Speaker 3: your face, if you, you know, get pedicures and facials
Speaker 3: and massages, and you do those things, I really feel
Speaker 3: and stay out of the sun, and you sunscreen. I
Speaker 3: really feel and get lots of exercise. We can delay
Speaker 3: the effects the negative effects of aging. Do you think
Speaker 3: so or not.
Speaker 2: Well when you take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people age very differently, though I also believe
Speaker 1: it has a lot to do with genetics.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I know people that are totally taken care of themselves,
Speaker 1: and I look at them like they're some Some people
Speaker 1: just have.
Speaker 2: More wrinkles than other people. I have more wrinkles than you.
Speaker 2: But I was a sun goddess.
Speaker 3: But I want to repeat that. I didn't hear that.
Speaker 3: Could you repeat that? Please?
Speaker 2: No, I will not.
Speaker 3: Since it was a sun goddess. Yes she was, and
Speaker 3: that's why we're friends.
Speaker 2: That will never end.
Speaker 1: I don't bake in it anymore. I use sunscreen, definitely.
Speaker 1: I've been taught to reapply. That was the other thing,
Speaker 1: because I've used sunscreen for a long time, but never
Speaker 1: reapplies like an hour. I live outside I'm cutting the lawn,
Speaker 1: I'm cleaning the pool, I'm entertaining on the deck, I
Speaker 1: have a convertible, I'm playing golf.
Speaker 3: Susan, I do all of those things. One of the
Speaker 3: big differences because do.
Speaker 1: You ever see I want to play golf that I
Speaker 1: wear a baby can't with this hat?
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I unlike you have had lots
Speaker 3: of skin cancers from damage. And I haven't sat in
Speaker 3: the sun since I was twenty eight, So I just
Speaker 3: do the short card on that one.
Speaker 2: But now have you sit with me on the beach.
Speaker 3: And I wear I'm the girl that wears fifty sunscreen
Speaker 3: and puts it on every hour and a big floppy
Speaker 3: hat on my head. I mean I come home with
Speaker 3: the most sun I had was when I did pat
Speaker 3: Paradise in.
Speaker 2: Posta ricaar I've never seen.
Speaker 3: Well, I use tons of sunscreen, but you know, when
Speaker 3: you're in the sun every day, all every.
Speaker 2: Day, that's my point. But you can't help but get tanned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're not in the sun and in.
Speaker 2: A good way because you're using sunscreen.
Speaker 3: All right, So, Susan, how did how does your body
Speaker 3: change as you age and how can you care for it?
Speaker 3: Tell me how your body.
Speaker 2: Called the plastic surgeon, because that shit changes quick, man.
Speaker 2: I told you about my back. I was looking in
Speaker 2: the mirror.
Speaker 1: I tried on this dress and it had a low back.
Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, when did that happen? I
Speaker 1: have a sharp peg, you know, the skin on the
Speaker 1: sharp cat. I remember telling you the story. I was like,
Speaker 1: when did this happen? Have I been exposing this all
Speaker 1: this time?
Speaker 3: So here's what I think.
Speaker 2: I want to be put on a stretcher and stand really,
Speaker 2: really tall.
Speaker 3: So what I've said my thing is, I want, you know,
Speaker 3: we can send men to the moon. I want somebody
Speaker 3: to invent something where they can start pulling my skin
Speaker 3: from my ankles, pull it all the way up over
Speaker 3: my stomach, over my boobs, over my neck, and over
Speaker 3: my head and like tattena not and clip it just.
Speaker 2: And she's in shape. Okay, she is in but good
Speaker 2: physical shape. She's strong, she lives weight, she does everything right.
Speaker 2: Me her little bestie here quite the opposite.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Even though you do all those things, we still have
Speaker 1: skin that SAgs.
Speaker 3: Now. So and here's here's the deal. As most people know,
Speaker 3: or if you don't, you're about to find out. When
Speaker 3: I was younger, I weighed just about two hundred pounds,
Speaker 3: which is why I'm so neurotic about training and fitness now.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. My body has changed more than
Speaker 3: yours because all that elasticity. That's something that is very difficult.
Speaker 3: Yes it's partly genetics, but elasticity gives way as we
Speaker 3: get older, and so I have that's back to the
Speaker 3: time the not above my head with all the loose skin.
Speaker 3: You know, it's age, and I feel like, but.
Speaker 1: You don't have stretch marks. So when you carried children.
Speaker 1: I know, even my own family, both my sisters, when
Speaker 1: they carry children and their belly gets real big after
Speaker 1: it goes down, they have a ton of steps.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I never got stretch marked.
Speaker 2: I don't have the mind though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think is that genetic. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it may that gene I didn't get, Thank
Speaker 2: you very much.
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't get the gene for stretch marks. But
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. And the other thing I noticed is
Speaker 3: when I like, you know, I hurt my back recently
Speaker 3: and my shoulder and I've just too hard. Yeah, I was.
Speaker 3: I actually was doing the Christmas tree bringing that in.
Speaker 3: That did my shoulder my back in But anyway, I'm
Speaker 3: fine now, and today was my first day back in
Speaker 3: the gym. And can I tell you here's another way
Speaker 3: we change as we get older. Well, it takes more
Speaker 3: to we lose muscle mass as we get older, so
Speaker 3: lifting weights just slows down the process. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: You lose the older you get, the faster you lose strike.
Speaker 3: So today when I was lifting weights, it was hard
Speaker 3: for me doing the middle weight that I normally do
Speaker 3: like a piece of cake.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's just how long did you take off?
Speaker 3: I haven't been in the gym for three weeks between
Speaker 3: my back.
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why it was more difficult.
Speaker 3: No, that's the whole reason it was so difficult. And
Speaker 3: you know, he said, the good news is that because
Speaker 3: I'm fit, it'll all bounce back quickly. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: What are the cosmetic procedures most.
Speaker 1: Popular to Golden's and which do you actually recommend.
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, before I answer that question, can
Speaker 3: I just say.
Speaker 2: How much time do we?
Speaker 3: I know? Really can we do it? Just an episode
Speaker 3: on this. First of all, my daughter gave me such
Speaker 3: a hard time the first time I got botox when
Speaker 3: I was I think I was fifty fifty two. Mom,
Speaker 3: just age gracefully. Can I tell you my daughter's thirties
Speaker 3: and she's been doing botox for several years. Here's what
Speaker 3: I noticed about young ones. They do botox and fillers
Speaker 3: and flip flips and facelifts and butt lifts, and I
Speaker 3: mean how much time.
Speaker 1: Because it's out in society, it's popular, they do it much. However,
Speaker 1: I want to agree with younger people doing the elevens,
Speaker 1: you know, right here, the elevens because.
Speaker 3: For the way he said, Susan, you can't see she's
Speaker 3: talking about the little lines between your eyes on your forehead.
Speaker 1: But go ahead from you know, the frown or squinty
Speaker 1: or you know, oh god, I just soul mine in
Speaker 1: the computers.
Speaker 2: Probably do.
Speaker 3: I don't know you and I may have made no
Speaker 3: bones about it. We both had lower gentle lower facelifts.
Speaker 1: Oh Kathy, wait, what do you think the goldens? What
Speaker 1: are the most popular that you think that Goldens are doing.
Speaker 2: What's the first thing.
Speaker 3: I think face comes to mind? Facelift.
Speaker 1: I think that takes more. I think they do the
Speaker 1: eyes first, their eyelids.
Speaker 2: Facelift is a bigger thing now, the lifestyle lift, like
Speaker 2: you and I did not everybody even knows that there's
Speaker 2: such a thing.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of laser Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 3: I think laser treatments. Goldens are you know they do
Speaker 3: laser treatments. They do micro needing, micro needling, all those
Speaker 3: things that I can't spell, you know, co two lasers
Speaker 3: and and lots of fillers and botox. So I think
Speaker 3: they start people to start with that. But you know what,
Speaker 3: are you addicted to.
Speaker 2: A ton of money all those Save your money and
Speaker 2: get the face done.
Speaker 3: We used to. It's newsflash, even Goldens or anyone else,
Speaker 3: if you get a faceoff, you still have to do botox.
Speaker 3: It's not a complete fix. God.
Speaker 1: Yes, although, can I just say, let's take a moment, Okay,
Speaker 1: I wish I had the money. But Chris Jenner's surgeon,
Speaker 1: that woman looks nineteen now.
Speaker 2: She was off of the society there for a good
Speaker 2: six month months.
Speaker 1: I think, to heal, what did they do, like redo
Speaker 1: her bones?
Speaker 2: I don't she looks so amazing to me, you know,
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 3: Her, right yeah, I think she looks great. I mean,
Speaker 3: I would do.
Speaker 2: It didn't sound very convincing that she.
Speaker 3: Looks I think, well, honestly, I think she looks great.
Speaker 3: But here's you and I are a little different. I
Speaker 3: don't want to look like I'm nineteen. I want to
Speaker 3: do well. That's where we're different. I want to be fit.
Speaker 3: I want to look rested. You know. I like looking
Speaker 3: younger than I am. But I don't need to look
Speaker 3: like nor do I want to look forty. I like
Speaker 3: my face. I don't want my face to be a
Speaker 3: whole different. You think she yes, I think Chris Jenner
Speaker 3: looks but you know, yes, I do. I think she doesn't.
Speaker 3: I think and I think.
Speaker 2: Think that's a full facelift. Though you're saying, because anybody
Speaker 2: that I know that had a full lift does look
Speaker 2: a little different.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and some of the people were not going
Speaker 3: to get name names, but some of our golden friends
Speaker 3: have had and we remember we saw a picture of
Speaker 3: one of them, and she didn't even look like she
Speaker 3: does now. She doesn't look like anything like she look
Speaker 3: like when she was forty. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I think Chris does. I just
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You just love Chris Jenner.
Speaker 1: How old do you think you should be before going
Speaker 1: under the knife?
Speaker 3: I think that's a very personal decision. I think people
Speaker 3: have to do what makes them feel good. You know
Speaker 3: all the procedures, What do I recommend? What age should
Speaker 3: you be? The answer is the same, when you're ready,
Speaker 3: when you feel like it's something you want for yourself.
Speaker 3: But here's my caveat. I hope no one out there
Speaker 3: does a facelift or any cosmetic procedure to please a man.
Speaker 3: If you do it because you want to feel better
Speaker 3: about who you are, or you think it will make
Speaker 3: you feel more confident, self assured, looking in the mirror
Speaker 3: and saying, you know what, mirror, mirror on the wall.
Speaker 3: I really am the fairest of them all.
Speaker 2: Because it's about you.
Speaker 1: You're not happy with something not to please somebody else,
Speaker 1: and that goes way further than.
Speaker 2: Just a facelift.
Speaker 3: But you know what your hairstyle.
Speaker 1: When women come to my chair and say, my husband
Speaker 1: wants it to be long, I said, you don't have
Speaker 1: any hair to be long. Okay, yeah, you have fourteen
Speaker 1: hairs on your head.
Speaker 2: You need a nice blunt cut and.
Speaker 3: Or extensions, extensions, extensions, go for it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not into extensions.
Speaker 1: I know they're really big, but I don't know they're
Speaker 1: damaging those things.
Speaker 3: Well, don't tell me that because my daughter just got them.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I do. I really do think it's
Speaker 3: like my PSA for the day. Do whatever cosmetic procedure
Speaker 3: you want that will make you feel better. I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think the age is whatever you feel like it.
Speaker 3: I think you got to remember that there's it's not
Speaker 3: a fix. It's not going to change your personality. It's
Speaker 3: not gonna it's not going to find you a husband.
Speaker 3: If you're doing it to find a boyfriend, a girlfriend,
Speaker 3: a partner, probably not. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, as we know that some TV personalities, when
Speaker 1: their number is getting up in age and they don't
Speaker 1: want to lose their job, they go get a little
Speaker 1: something done to keep themselves looking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do it for me. I feel better. I mean,
Speaker 3: I look at some of my siblings who have done nothing,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to take heat for this too. It's
Speaker 3: downright scary they because but you know what, they haven't
Speaker 3: done a lot of self care over the years. Some
Speaker 3: of my siblings have not and it's and it's sad
Speaker 3: because self care is We're back to that whole topic
Speaker 3: of what is self care. It's about making yourself feel
Speaker 3: better for you, and that's what I think self care.
Speaker 2: Is and self care is also. And now here's a
Speaker 2: good excuse people. If you want one, you have to
Speaker 2: go get new cosmetics. Things change.
Speaker 3: Oh and they wear and they're.
Speaker 2: Not cosmetics and outfits.
Speaker 1: Next, well, we're going to talk a little bit about fashion,
Speaker 1: how it's changed. Why not dress to be not just
Speaker 1: in style, but for you, what do you you feel good? Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't care if they don't wear those anymore. I
Speaker 1: like them on Rock in the Right, but I am
Speaker 1: tend to be trendy.
Speaker 2: I like fashion.
Speaker 1: Fashion goes with hair, So for us, we could tell
Speaker 1: when Paris would come out with their spring line or
Speaker 1: their next fall line, how the hair would change for
Speaker 1: those lines. It's crazy how it's all combined together.
Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody knows that Susan has helped me with
Speaker 3: my hair and my fashion because I grew up in
Speaker 3: New England, and in New England, at least where I
Speaker 3: grew up, people tend to dress in lots of plaid.
Speaker 2: And just think Oxford.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, but it's well, that's preppy,
Speaker 3: but I mean high fashion in the circles I grew
Speaker 3: up in is what you know was plaid. I mean,
Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of a lot of high.
Speaker 2: Fashion what you would Boston a plaids.
Speaker 3: Well, New England, it's a whole that's a whole nother whole,
Speaker 3: other conversation for another time. But I remember, well, well
Speaker 3: let me just tell you. I will tell you a
Speaker 3: quick story about fashion. So you know I used to
Speaker 3: be an educational consultant, right, okay. I would take families
Speaker 3: from the school I worked at to look at boarding schools.
Speaker 3: So I would take a couple of kids and their
Speaker 3: mothers and fly and I would I knew the boarding schools.
Speaker 3: I would make the appointments. I would talk to them
Speaker 3: show I can tell you the women, the mothers, I
Speaker 3: knew how to dress because I grew up there. These
Speaker 3: mothers looked like I don't they They were so high
Speaker 3: fashion cute, you know, mini skirts with high boots on,
Speaker 3: very trendy. And the and the direct the admission directions
Speaker 3: would look at me to go, where the hell are
Speaker 3: these people from? And I would say don't hold it
Speaker 3: against them. They live in Texas, the you know, high money,
Speaker 3: high fashion. But true they stood out from everybody in
Speaker 3: that admissions office, like in the Northeast.
Speaker 2: By the way, that's what I'm about to say.
Speaker 1: I come from a very high fashion area at New
Speaker 1: York Philly.
Speaker 2: Like we like to dress up. We like clothes, we
Speaker 2: like the best shoes, your bag, like all that. That's
Speaker 2: how I grew up.
Speaker 1: And when I go to certain places in California, to me,
Speaker 1: I'm there.
Speaker 2: A lot is very chill. It's very California. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to see. It's not a lot of high
Speaker 2: high fashion.
Speaker 3: Given my choice, I'd being flip flops, jeans and a sweatshirt.
Speaker 3: Like But you I have I've learned to, you know,
Speaker 3: to get dressed. That used to be my biggest anxiety
Speaker 3: of oh my gosh, I have to go something.
Speaker 2: For I'll do it, Kathy, I don't know what.
Speaker 3: But I've got better at picking out things that I
Speaker 3: do wear. I think that that. But let me just say,
Speaker 3: in terms of self care, spending money on yourself for clothing,
Speaker 3: a lot of us, as we get older, we don't
Speaker 3: want to spend the money. We'd rather spend it on
Speaker 3: our children or keep it in the savings.
Speaker 2: Who don't want to spend the money as we get older.
Speaker 1: That's all the more reason you worked all your damn
Speaker 1: life spend a little on yourself.
Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that, Stuck.
Speaker 3: I didn't say you did. I said there were some people.
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people where if I'm out shopping,
Speaker 3: I'm more likely to look at something for my granddaughter
Speaker 3: than i am to look at something for myself.
Speaker 1: Not when you sat with me, I've never seen that
Speaker 1: because I'm not getting something for the kids as well.
Speaker 2: But you're going to take care of yourself. You spend money,
Speaker 2: trust me.
Speaker 3: When I'm with you, Susan, we're on a mission to
Speaker 3: buy clothes. I'm saying, if I just go out shopping,
Speaker 3: you know I'm going to be the first place I'm
Speaker 3: going to land is in the children's department because I'm
Speaker 3: going Let.
Speaker 2: Me ask you something. Do you just go out shopping
Speaker 2: ever or not? That's what I mean. What do you say?
Speaker 3: I say, like like when I if I'm out, if
Speaker 3: you cruise the mall, yeah, if I walk to the
Speaker 3: mall or I just you know, I've got an hour
Speaker 3: to kill before an appointment, a hair appointment, and so I'm.
Speaker 2: Near a go to a mall, I would miss the appointment.
Speaker 3: I will walk in and I'll look at the baby
Speaker 3: clothes or the now the toddler clothes. I'll look for
Speaker 3: my seven year old granddaughter. You know I look at
Speaker 3: stuff for my kids. Yes, I have learned to do it.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, if you're if I'm being honest,
Speaker 3: self care to me, your damn right. I get my facials,
Speaker 3: I get my hair done, I get my hair, you
Speaker 3: know all those things. But but self care to me
Speaker 3: is not buying new clothes all the time. And since
Speaker 3: we're being honest here, Susan, Yes, Susan has her own
Speaker 3: professional career service because Amazon got tired of dropping twenty
Speaker 3: six boxes at her door every day for her facts.
Speaker 1: For the children in the family and my self care needs.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I wish I could just buy my clothes on Amazon.
Speaker 3: You know, I buy clothes on Amazon to be in fashion.
Speaker 3: I don't think. Let me just say though, that is
Speaker 3: one more thing about self care. I don't I know
Speaker 3: that as people get older it's a thing.
Speaker 2: For we could do a whole month of self care no, right.
Speaker 3: Wait, people, here's this is one of the things that
Speaker 3: drives me nuts seeing people women, particularly my age, your
Speaker 3: age over fifty, and they have on these shoes that
Speaker 3: oh god please, and I'll and sometimes I'll say it's cooler,
Speaker 3: it's I know, they're well, they're comfortable. I'm like, they're comfortable.
Speaker 3: They they're hideous. But you don't say that, right, My
Speaker 3: feet hurt. I'm like, your feet hurt?
Speaker 2: Like what, Well, we could do another episode on shoes.
Speaker 3: I don't do, Susan. I may have more shoes than
Speaker 3: you have. I do have a little problem with shoes
Speaker 3: a lot. I do have a lot of shoes.
Speaker 2: Well, I did good this year and clean that closet.
Speaker 2: I got rid of a ton of things.
Speaker 3: Yes, wait, that's another thing.
Speaker 2: I still have four closets in this I was.
Speaker 3: Going to say self care, Susan, for you, I want
Speaker 3: you to devote an hour a day to clean day.
Speaker 2: There's no such thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, an hour a week to cleaning out your closets. Okay.
Speaker 2: And they're neat and organized of things I haven't worn
Speaker 2: in years.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're out of time here, so that
Speaker 3: is going to do it for this episode. Flu by
Speaker 3: Cat Flu Bye, and but this was a great episode.
Speaker 3: I love doing this. That's our happy Hours Golden Hour,
Speaker 3: Fashion for Goldens and self care. What a great topic.
Speaker 3: We got to come back and do this one again.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that, trust and believe
Speaker 1: me right in, let us know what you want us
Speaker 1: to talk about, and we will.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're fashionistas. What can I say? And thank
Speaker 2: you all so much for joining us yet again. We
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