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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour.

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Speaker 2: We're back. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We are so excited to be back. Kathy, how are

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Speaker 1: you today.

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Speaker 3: The truth being known, I am freezing in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 3: sunny Texas. It's forty one degrees in raining, but I'm great.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten so much done today, got up at five

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Speaker 3: point thirty. I'm feeling like totally energetic.

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Speaker 1: So that's because you went to bed really early. I

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Speaker 1: remember calling your list.

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Speaker 3: Well I did. I did go to bed early. But

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Speaker 3: you know what, here's the deal. It doesn't matter what

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Speaker 3: time I go to bed. I wake up three hours later,

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Speaker 3: go back to sleep, wake up three hours later. Do

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Speaker 3: you remember the day, Susan, do you being in a

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Speaker 3: golden Do you remember the days when you could sleep

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Speaker 3: through the night. We're gonna you know this, Let you know,

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Speaker 3: this is a good segue because today we're going to

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Speaker 3: get into all things self care. Okay, so before we

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Speaker 3: get started, and Susan, you gotta tell me what does

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Speaker 3: self care mean to you, because that's what this episode

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Speaker 1: Self care to me is taking the time to treat

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Speaker 1: my body the way it should be treated, whether it's

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Speaker 1: given myself a facial going to have a better cure,

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Speaker 1: like take time out to take care of me. Washing

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Speaker 1: really the hardest thing I've ever done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to say, well, you know what I.

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Speaker 1: Might face before I watched TV, or it's not going

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Speaker 3: I would We're going to get into the specifics of

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Speaker 3: what we do. But for me, the twenty thousand view

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Speaker 3: of self care is doing things for myself without feeling guilt,

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Speaker 3: without the feeling that I should be doing something for

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Speaker 3: someone else. That's the twenty thous would do for me because.

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Speaker 1: T about I'm sorry, why would you feel guilty about

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Speaker 1: doing something for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's just say when you have grandchildren or you

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Speaker 3: have errands to run it sometimes, Susan, for me, it

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Speaker 3: comes down to am I going to put a mask on?

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Speaker 3: Or am I gonna you know, uh, get something ready

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's an either or, and for me, self care

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Speaker 3: saying I should be doing something else. But let's dive in.

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into this whole topic and and we'll see

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Speaker 3: what comes out of this. First off, how does self

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Speaker 3: care change from when you are younger to when you're

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Speaker 3: in your golden years? How is your self care different? Down? All?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Off, all that I didn't need so much self care

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Speaker 1: back then. Oh wait, well I got to do the

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Speaker 1: red light. I gotta do this, I gotta do this.

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Speaker 1: I got to moisturize more.

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Speaker 2: I have to. It's way different.

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Speaker 3: So you so that's interesting in your definition of self care.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like or what you just said that it

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Speaker 3: has to do with beauty of facial care, skincare. And

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Speaker 3: for me, self care is such a bigger topic for me.

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Speaker 2: Let me finish. Wait, let me finish.

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Speaker 1: The other things that are really important now when I'm

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Speaker 1: you meditate or it's a hot bubble bath and just

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Speaker 1: have quiet time. Right because I have so many things

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Speaker 1: a lot of times I neglect that part. And I'll

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Speaker 1: it when you know, that is really really important that

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Speaker 3: So so I jumped on that because you were talking about,

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Speaker 3: you know, washing your face and putting, doing a red

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Speaker 3: light and for me, self care can it's all those things.

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Speaker 3: It's it's also getting massages, get it. I get a

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Speaker 3: a month. But in general, for me, take self care

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Speaker 3: for me is taking an hour out to sit down

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Speaker 3: needle point. I there's things. I know. I need to

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Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm going to sit down a

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Speaker 2: That's your enjoyment.

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Speaker 3: It's it's self care. It's a time for me to

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Speaker 3: I know you and I each have three children, they're

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Speaker 3: grown and we both have grandchildren. But to answer that question,

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Speaker 3: when I was younger, I don't even I mean, if

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Speaker 3: self care, it was at ten o'clock at night, after

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Speaker 3: is what I'm saying, I have a bass ouse. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I do have a lot of energy. Where

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Speaker 3: where in your golden years? I think it's we have

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Speaker 3: the luxury of time. Even though you and I work

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Speaker 3: sometimes we help out our kids, We do lots of things.

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Speaker 3: It's just we're able. I think, at least I am

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Speaker 3: to build time into my day to do things just

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Speaker 3: for me. When and when I had kids at home,

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Speaker 3: I was the last person on the totem pole. My

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Speaker 3: kids came first, Then was my husband what he needed well,

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Speaker 3: and just spending time with him, which is self care

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Speaker 3: for the relationship. But it wasn't doing something just for me.

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Speaker 1: Something I need to do more of, all right. The

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Speaker 1: next one says, what's something you think a lot of

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Speaker 1: golden's neglect to take off, well, just.

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Speaker 3: To take off to take care of, to take care

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Speaker 3: of for me. My experience has been lots of goldens

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Speaker 3: don't take care of their physical, their bodies. They just

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Speaker 3: don't take care. They're too busy. You know, I don't

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Speaker 3: of self care for me. You know, today I have

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Speaker 3: a day from hell. I am My son in law

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Speaker 3: and my daughter are both out of town. They have

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Speaker 3: and make sure everything is okay.

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Speaker 2: But you know what else I phone call won't do.

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Speaker 2: She wants you to do it in person.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because that's this is the first time when

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Speaker 3: going to go over there and read her stories, and

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Speaker 3: you know, Kiki's going to come to the rescue. But

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Speaker 3: you know what else I made time for. I drove

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Speaker 3: an hour, I came, drove a half hour home. Like

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Speaker 3: that is self care. I'm making time for the gym,

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Speaker 3: something else to go by the way.

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Speaker 2: You always keep up with.

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Speaker 3: Wait, Susan, don't you want to know what I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to do today to make time for the gym.

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Speaker 3: But you're not what I'm not going to do tonight?

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Speaker 3: What cook?

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Speaker 2: Cook? You never cook?

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Speaker 1: That doesn't count absolutely, what do you think?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm still eating leftovers.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I read the paper or heard it on the today.

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Speaker 3: Today was the last day, so yes, from Thanksgiving? Get

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Speaker 3: rid of that stuff. It's over. What do you think

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Speaker 3: the Golden's neglect? What's one thing you think they neglect?

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Speaker 2: To take off their makeup at night?

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Speaker 3: Seriously? You all right, Susan truth ceremony.

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Speaker 2: You're too tire. That's one of my pet thieves.

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Speaker 3: Wait, by do you go to bed without taking off

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Speaker 1: I have many times. Yes, it's terrible, and I see

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Speaker 1: it in the morning. There's such a difference.

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Speaker 2: But to take.

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Speaker 1: Time, I gotta do it, Like especially if I'm just

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Speaker 1: so I had to put a face on. If I

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Speaker 1: have nothing to do, there's never makeup on my face ever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, this, this is this is crazy because this

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Speaker 3: goes right into the next question, which is skick care

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Speaker 3: is all the us right now? What's the key to

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Speaker 3: take care of your skin that everyone should know about

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Speaker 3: and what's the truth behind anti aging? So go for

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Speaker 3: the first one. First, What are the first one?

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Speaker 1: Something that I just adopted in my adult, adult adult

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Speaker 1: life is sunscreen.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank god you said that big time sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: That is I was. That is. If you aren't using sunscreen,

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Speaker 3: go back to start, do not collect two hundred dollars,

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Speaker 3: go to jail. You know you have got to use sunscreen.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is not oystizer.

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Speaker 1: Well that's not only sunscreen, but cleansing is so important

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Speaker 1: and exfoliating.

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Speaker 3: Look at you at least.

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Speaker 2: Once or twice a week.

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Speaker 1: But these are the things I try to rush in

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Speaker 1: why I like that bubble bath night, Katty. I have

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Speaker 3: It's my I was talking to Sup. But that's up, girlfriend.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to you on the phone the other night,

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Speaker 3: laid out. Remember to give yourself facial and then she said,

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Speaker 3: I'm too tired. I can't do any of this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you can't if I already have moisturizer or anything

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Speaker 2: on my skin, like I use the Retinoal at night products,

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Speaker 2: then you can't use the red mask. You schoold me

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Speaker 1: I wish I didn't know, because I was doing fun okay,

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Speaker 1: wash my face in order to do the red mask.

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Speaker 3: So can I just tell you you're right? I did school.

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Speaker 3: You cannot have any products on your face when you're

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Speaker 3: doing the red mask. And you know what I do.

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Speaker 3: I swear because I do it. For some reason, doing

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Speaker 3: it calms you. It calms me down. So what I

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Speaker 3: do is you're gonna laugh, Susan. I leave on all

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Speaker 3: I brush my teeth, I put on the moisturizer, the

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Speaker 3: I cream, all of those things. That's why that's how

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Speaker 3: I bring.

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Speaker 2: I bring the I cream, the night cream, and I

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Speaker 2: put it on my night stands. I don't have to

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Speaker 2: get out of bed, and I tell Ziggy to touch

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Speaker 3: That is so funny. I mean, I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: feel like I do think the we should, by the way,

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Speaker 3: new ie masks here. But I honestly, I think a

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Speaker 3: face moisturizing. I you know, I cream doing, masks, doing scrubs, doing.

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Speaker 2: And she gets a facial once a moire.

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Speaker 3: Since it was a sun goddess. Yes she was, and

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I unlike you have had lots

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Speaker 3: And I wear I'm the girl that wears fifty sunscreen

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Speaker 3: Well, I use tons of sunscreen, but you know, when

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Speaker 2: Day, that's my point. But you can't help but get tanned.

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Speaker 2: Called the plastic surgeon, because that shit changes quick, man.

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Speaker 3: So here's what I think.

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Speaker 3: So what I've said my thing is, I want, you know,

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Speaker 2: And she's in shape. Okay, she is in but good

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Speaker 3: Now. So and here's here's the deal. As most people know,

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. My body has changed more than

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Speaker 3: Yes it's partly genetics, but elasticity gives way as we

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Speaker 3: You know, it's age, and I feel like, but.

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Speaker 1: You don't have stretch marks. So when you carried children.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I never got stretch marked.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't get the gene for stretch marks. But

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Speaker 3: No, that's the whole reason it was so difficult. And

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Speaker 3: I know? Really can we do it? Just an episode

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Speaker 1: Oh Kathy, wait, what do you think the goldens? What

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Speaker 1: I think that takes more. I think they do the

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Speaker 3: We used to. It's newsflash, even Goldens or anyone else,

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Speaker 3: Looks I think, well, honestly, I think she looks great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and some of the people were not going

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Speaker 1: under the knife?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a very personal decision. I think people

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Speaker 3: have to do what makes them feel good. You know

443
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Speaker 3: all the procedures, What do I recommend? What age should

444
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Speaker 3: you be? The answer is the same, when you're ready,

445
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Speaker 3: when you feel like it's something you want for yourself.

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Speaker 3: But here's my caveat. I hope no one out there

447
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Speaker 3: does a facelift or any cosmetic procedure to please a man.

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Speaker 3: If you do it because you want to feel better

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Speaker 3: about who you are, or you think it will make

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Speaker 3: you feel more confident, self assured, looking in the mirror

451
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Speaker 3: and saying, you know what, mirror, mirror on the wall.

452
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Speaker 3: I really am the fairest of them all.

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Speaker 2: Because it's about you.

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Speaker 1: You're not happy with something not to please somebody else,

455
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Speaker 1: and that goes way further than.

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Speaker 2: Just a facelift.

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Speaker 3: But you know what your hairstyle.

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Speaker 1: When women come to my chair and say, my husband

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Speaker 1: wants it to be long, I said, you don't have

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Speaker 1: any hair to be long. Okay, yeah, you have fourteen

461
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Speaker 1: hairs on your head.

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Speaker 2: You need a nice blunt cut and.

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Speaker 3: Or extensions, extensions, extensions, go for it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not into extensions.

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Speaker 1: I know they're really big, but I don't know they're

466
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Speaker 1: damaging those things.

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Speaker 3: Well, don't tell me that because my daughter just got them.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I do. I really do think it's

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Speaker 3: like my PSA for the day. Do whatever cosmetic procedure

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Speaker 3: you want that will make you feel better. I don't think.

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Speaker 3: I think the age is whatever you feel like it.

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Speaker 3: I think you got to remember that there's it's not

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Speaker 3: a fix. It's not going to change your personality. It's

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Speaker 3: not gonna it's not going to find you a husband.

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Speaker 3: If you're doing it to find a boyfriend, a girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: a partner, probably not. You know.

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Speaker 1: You know, as we know that some TV personalities, when

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Speaker 1: their number is getting up in age and they don't

479
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Speaker 1: want to lose their job, they go get a little

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Speaker 1: something done to keep themselves looking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do it for me. I feel better. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I look at some of my siblings who have done nothing,

483
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to take heat for this too. It's

484
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Speaker 3: downright scary they because but you know what, they haven't

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Speaker 3: done a lot of self care over the years. Some

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Speaker 3: of my siblings have not and it's and it's sad

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Speaker 3: because self care is We're back to that whole topic

488
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Speaker 3: of what is self care. It's about making yourself feel

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Speaker 3: better for you, and that's what I think self care.

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Speaker 2: Is and self care is also. And now here's a

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Speaker 2: good excuse people. If you want one, you have to

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Speaker 2: go get new cosmetics. Things change.

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Speaker 3: Oh and they wear and they're.

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Speaker 2: Not cosmetics and outfits.

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Speaker 1: Next, well, we're going to talk a little bit about fashion,

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Speaker 1: how it's changed. Why not dress to be not just

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Speaker 1: in style, but for you, what do you you feel good? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if they don't wear those anymore. I

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Speaker 1: like them on Rock in the Right, but I am

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Speaker 1: tend to be trendy.

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Speaker 2: I like fashion.

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Speaker 1: Fashion goes with hair, So for us, we could tell

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Speaker 1: when Paris would come out with their spring line or

504
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Speaker 1: their next fall line, how the hair would change for

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Speaker 1: those lines. It's crazy how it's all combined together.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody knows that Susan has helped me with

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Speaker 3: my hair and my fashion because I grew up in

508
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Speaker 3: New England, and in New England, at least where I

509
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Speaker 3: grew up, people tend to dress in lots of plaid.

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Speaker 2: And just think Oxford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean, but it's well, that's preppy,

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Speaker 3: but I mean high fashion in the circles I grew

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Speaker 3: up in is what you know was plaid. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of a lot of high.

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Speaker 2: Fashion what you would Boston a plaids.

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Speaker 3: Well, New England, it's a whole that's a whole nother whole,

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Speaker 3: other conversation for another time. But I remember, well, well

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Speaker 3: let me just tell you. I will tell you a

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Speaker 3: quick story about fashion. So you know I used to

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Speaker 3: be an educational consultant, right, okay. I would take families

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Speaker 3: from the school I worked at to look at boarding schools.

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Speaker 3: So I would take a couple of kids and their

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Speaker 3: mothers and fly and I would I knew the boarding schools.

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Speaker 3: I would make the appointments. I would talk to them

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Speaker 3: show I can tell you the women, the mothers, I

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Speaker 3: knew how to dress because I grew up there. These

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Speaker 3: mothers looked like I don't they They were so high

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Speaker 3: fashion cute, you know, mini skirts with high boots on,

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Speaker 3: very trendy. And the and the direct the admission directions

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Speaker 3: would look at me to go, where the hell are

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Speaker 3: these people from? And I would say don't hold it

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Speaker 3: against them. They live in Texas, the you know, high money,

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Speaker 3: high fashion. But true they stood out from everybody in

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Speaker 3: that admissions office, like in the Northeast.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that's what I'm about to say.

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Speaker 1: I come from a very high fashion area at New

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Speaker 1: York Philly.

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Speaker 2: Like we like to dress up. We like clothes, we

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Speaker 2: like the best shoes, your bag, like all that. That's

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Speaker 2: how I grew up.

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Speaker 1: And when I go to certain places in California, to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm there.

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Speaker 2: A lot is very chill. It's very California. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how to see. It's not a lot of high

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Speaker 2: high fashion.

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Speaker 3: Given my choice, I'd being flip flops, jeans and a sweatshirt.

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Speaker 3: Like But you I have I've learned to, you know,

548
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Speaker 3: to get dressed. That used to be my biggest anxiety

549
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Speaker 3: of oh my gosh, I have to go something.

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Speaker 2: For I'll do it, Kathy, I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: But I've got better at picking out things that I

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Speaker 3: do wear. I think that that. But let me just say,

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Speaker 3: in terms of self care, spending money on yourself for clothing,

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Speaker 3: a lot of us, as we get older, we don't

555
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Speaker 3: want to spend the money. We'd rather spend it on

556
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Speaker 3: our children or keep it in the savings.

557
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Speaker 2: Who don't want to spend the money as we get older.

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Speaker 1: That's all the more reason you worked all your damn

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Speaker 1: life spend a little on yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't agree with that, Stuck.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say you did. I said there were some people.

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Speaker 3: I'm one of those people where if I'm out shopping,

563
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: I'm more likely to look at something for my granddaughter

564
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Speaker 3: than i am to look at something for myself.

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Speaker 1: Not when you sat with me, I've never seen that

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Speaker 1: because I'm not getting something for the kids as well.

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Speaker 2: But you're going to take care of yourself. You spend money,

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Speaker 2: trust me.

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Speaker 3: When I'm with you, Susan, we're on a mission to

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Speaker 3: buy clothes. I'm saying, if I just go out shopping,

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Speaker 3: you know I'm going to be the first place I'm

572
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Speaker 3: going to land is in the children's department because I'm

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Speaker 3: going Let.

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Speaker 2: Me ask you something. Do you just go out shopping

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Speaker 2: ever or not? That's what I mean. What do you say?

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Speaker 3: I say, like like when I if I'm out, if

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Speaker 3: you cruise the mall, yeah, if I walk to the

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Speaker 3: mall or I just you know, I've got an hour

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Speaker 3: to kill before an appointment, a hair appointment, and so I'm.

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Speaker 2: Near a go to a mall, I would miss the appointment.

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Speaker 3: I will walk in and I'll look at the baby

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Speaker 3: clothes or the now the toddler clothes. I'll look for

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Speaker 3: my seven year old granddaughter. You know I look at

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Speaker 3: stuff for my kids. Yes, I have learned to do it.

585
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Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, if you're if I'm being honest,

586
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Speaker 3: self care to me, your damn right. I get my facials,

587
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: I get my hair done, I get my hair, you

588
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 3: know all those things. But but self care to me

589
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: is not buying new clothes all the time. And since

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Speaker 3: we're being honest here, Susan, Yes, Susan has her own

591
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: professional career service because Amazon got tired of dropping twenty

592
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: six boxes at her door every day for her facts.

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Speaker 1: For the children in the family and my self care needs.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

595
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Speaker 2: I wish I could just buy my clothes on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: You know, I buy clothes on Amazon to be in fashion.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. Let me just say though, that is

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Speaker 3: one more thing about self care. I don't I know

599
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Speaker 3: that as people get older it's a thing.

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Speaker 2: For we could do a whole month of self care no, right.

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Speaker 3: Wait, people, here's this is one of the things that

602
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: drives me nuts seeing people women, particularly my age, your

603
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Speaker 3: age over fifty, and they have on these shoes that

604
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Speaker 3: oh god please, and I'll and sometimes I'll say it's cooler,

605
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: it's I know, they're well, they're comfortable. I'm like, they're comfortable.

606
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: They they're hideous. But you don't say that, right, My

607
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: feet hurt. I'm like, your feet hurt?

608
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Speaker 2: Like what, Well, we could do another episode on shoes.

609
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Speaker 3: I don't do, Susan. I may have more shoes than

610
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Speaker 3: you have. I do have a little problem with shoes

611
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 3: a lot. I do have a lot of shoes.

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: Well, I did good this year and clean that closet.

613
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Speaker 2: I got rid of a ton of things.

614
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Speaker 3: Yes, wait, that's another thing.

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Speaker 2: I still have four closets in this I was.

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Speaker 3: Going to say self care, Susan, for you, I want

617
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: you to devote an hour a day to clean day.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, an hour a week to cleaning out your closets. Okay.

620
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Speaker 2: And they're neat and organized of things I haven't worn

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Speaker 2: in years.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're out of time here, so that

623
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Speaker 3: is going to do it for this episode. Flu by

624
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Speaker 3: Cat Flu Bye, and but this was a great episode.

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Speaker 3: I love doing this. That's our happy Hours Golden Hour,

626
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Speaker 3: Fashion for Goldens and self care. What a great topic.

627
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Speaker 3: We got to come back and do this one again.

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Speaker 1: I was just going to say that, trust and believe

629
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Speaker 1: me right in, let us know what you want us

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Speaker 1: to talk about, and we will.

631
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're fashionistas. What can I say? And thank

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Speaker 2: you all so much for joining us yet again. We

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Speaker 2: and be sure to.

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Speaker 1: Follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes, new topics,

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Speaker 1: new people coming out every single week, and you don't

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Speaker 1: want to.

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Speaker 3: Miss this, that's right, And all you have to do

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Speaker 3: is submit your questions to us. You go to bachelornation

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Speaker 3: dot com, slash Golden Hour, or hit us up on

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Speaker 3: socials at Bachelor Happy Hour, because these two fashionistas want

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Speaker 3: to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: They were coming out.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 1: Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: app or wherever you listen to your podcast until next week.

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Speaker 3: Take care