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Speaker 2: And that we're talking about two extremes right now, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Why welcome to the male mind right, and that happened

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Speaker 1: recently to one of our listeners. His name is Isaac.

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Speaker 1: Isaac from your email, it sounds like you're ready to

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Speaker 1: finally become a better man. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Is that true? Am I overextending with this or do

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Speaker 1: you really feel like this girl is special?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: No, she definitely was. I mean it was definitely a

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Speaker 4: unique experience at first for me. She was. She was

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Speaker 1: And yeah, okay a little more seriously, Yeah, so what's

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Speaker 1: this lady's name.

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Speaker 4: Her name's Aura, that's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: Where'd you meet her?

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Speaker 4: We're on a dating app, and uh, she's really confident.

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Speaker 4: That's really sexy to me because I'm.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of shy, kind of just kind of go

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Speaker 2: So interesting, So, I mean it must be out of

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it.

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Speaker 3: But she's a hell of a lady.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, man moves. Okay, so what did I'm assuming

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were gonna meet at the bar, and

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Speaker 1: That is really the.

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Speaker 1: I want some of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you could definitely say she had the heat of energy.

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Speaker 1: We're off to a really good start of the date.

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Speaker 1: How did the rest of it go?

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Speaker 4: She sat down and immediately that she just started spilling out.

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Speaker 3: So it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: Was your connection with her?

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Speaker 2: Because it's a lot about like how amazing she was,

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Speaker 1: You know, they say opposites a tract, and this sounds

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Speaker 4: We started having a just basic conversation, talking a little

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Speaker 2: Is that a normal question? Alexis I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I was you, Isaac, I would take

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Speaker 4: I want to see them.

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Speaker 1: I want to like four, like something a little more exciting.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's when it freak you out if

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Speaker 5: No, But what if you're debating between other people, Like

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Speaker 1: No. Okay, but at least the guy would too. Seems

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Speaker 1: Not totally unaccessible though, But I want to know. Did

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Speaker 4: I asked her what she said? Okay? Wow, she says

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Speaker 2: Too, Okay, so she just mirrored your response.

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Speaker 4: Then she took a shot and just like stared.

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Speaker 5: At me, a solo shot without you pounded some tequila.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she really did, and it was kind of was like,

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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: On the first days, that's a different.

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Speaker 4: It was about forty five minutes and then she says

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Speaker 2: A shot came. She asked for your number, She took

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe she got with wanted out of me.

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Speaker 4: So it was about ten days ago this happen, and

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Speaker 3: I sent her one like nice message, but she.

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Speaker 2: Why why would she ghost? Why wouldn't she.

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Speaker 1: Too many tequila shots and now she needs time to

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Speaker 1: Or maybe she wants a guy to come after her.

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Speaker 2: Want what want? I didn't think of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I feel like having the radio station

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's be bold.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. In fact, let's all slam some shots

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Speaker 2: I I think you're already slurring when you said that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's got a lot.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for him though, the date only lasted forty five

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Speaker 2: But that it was not upsetting to him.

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Speaker 1: No, that's just that bf E big Fahida energy carrying.

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Speaker 1: How Come she didn't buy him or he didn't buy

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was about him.

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Speaker 1: Nay, it was all about her. And it's been ten

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Speaker 2: He's not a very confident guy. When you think confidence,

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Speaker 4: Listener, right, Isaac, yep, I try sometimes, but yeah cry sometimes.

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Speaker 2: We all cry, man, It's good. Is that what you said?

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he said try. But if label him

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Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Confident, Cry jeff.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous right now.

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Speaker 2: You're good.

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Speaker 1: You need to channel your own big Faheita energy before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 2: Remember you're the one that ordered the fajidas what I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to give him confidence, like take charge of

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Speaker 2: the situation. Tita's are coming to your table because you

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Speaker 1: Brook, She's gonna ask for a tip when this is.

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Speaker 2: Out again, So I will never start a cool trend

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just stop and we're gonna call her. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: Aura here. Well Hey is this Aura? Yeah, hey Aura,

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Speaker 1: thanks for picking up the phone. We're actually we're a

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Speaker 1: and uh, good morning. How you doing today?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh my god, you guys again seriously again again?

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Speaker 5: A wait, you've gotta be kidding me. What do you

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Speaker 5: want now?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: Wait, do you know us? I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys called me like four months ago. You

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Speaker 5: called me for some like second date jail bab, jailbab.

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Speaker 6: That is not a second, essentially a much better second.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, we've never we did not talk to

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Speaker 1: I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: I mean what am I saying? I usually forget people's day.

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Speaker 6: The second Yeah, so this is called second date update

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Speaker 6: by the way, okay, whatever, but like your guy wanted

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Speaker 2: It sounds like everybody sounds.

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Wait a second, Okay, you remember were you the one

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Speaker 1: your list of situationships like a roster. Yeah, there was

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Speaker 1: like other guys and she was like, you could be

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Speaker 6: That you like your show?

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Speaker 5: Seriously, like, nothing better to do than call me?

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Speaker 1: This is what our job is to do.

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Speaker 2: This kind of like an insult.

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Speaker 1: And the short answer to that, no, we don't. The

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Speaker 1: and it can be really confusing for somebody. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you feel a connection.

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Speaker 5: No, I get it.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 5: I already heard the spiel.

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Speaker 3: But when you called me the first time?

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Speaker 1: Uh huh?

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Speaker 3: So like, who is it now? Who's the guy?

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Speaker 2: Good question?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well there's a new one named Isaac.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, what oh?

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Speaker 2: What was wrong with Isaac? Isaac felt like he was special?

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Speaker 2: But he did. You asked some questions, you were engaged,

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Speaker 1: Good job, Brooke, that's true. Gets super specific with it, there, Brooke,

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Speaker 1: you took a shot. Remember the shot you took.

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Speaker 5: Can we just like skip to the part where you

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Speaker 5: tell me he's.

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Speaker 6: On the phone listening, but I'll just stop the.

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Speaker 1: Head Okay, clearly, Okay, you've definitely done this before.

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Speaker 2: No, Or she's gonna take Jeffer's job soon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty good. Well, since you know, hey, Isaac,

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Speaker 1: you're up, bud, so good luck. Ye.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like you set you up for success

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Speaker 2: right there?

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, Isaac talk to her.

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Speaker 5: Ay Or, Isaac, this was a really really bad move.

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Speaker 1: But really it was these radio people.

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Speaker 5: They don't know what the hell they're doing.

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Speaker 3: You never should have all them.

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Speaker 2: We're talking you about we get successful second dates.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes your voice is extremely high when you said that,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't, but don't apologize.

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Speaker 5: Learn your lesson, delete their numbers. They're pests, like leaching

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Speaker 5: off of our lives.

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Speaker 2: We're not leaking off your lives. We're just trying to

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Speaker 2: help Isaac out because he liked you.

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Speaker 1: By attaching ourselves to his story and taking credit.

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Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't call him back, Like, what is the

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Speaker 4: Chang off of our lives?

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Speaker 2: There's no r You didn't call him back. You weren't

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Speaker 3: You're calling me twice.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: To tell you this, But you weren't that rememberable. We

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Speaker 2: didn't remember you.

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't, I don't mind that. Can you tell

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Speaker 5: the Karen to stop talking?

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Speaker 2: I'm the Karen.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna recluse ourselves because I think we're making

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Mind?

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Speaker 4: Did you say that they already called you before? Like

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Speaker 4: about like a different guy? Multiple?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like that's.

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Speaker 5: My business and the time that we spent together. I

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Speaker 5: would call you if it was good.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, But you didn't say why it wasn't good?

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Speaker 1: All?

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Speaker 5: First of all, you've been texting me good morning every.

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Speaker 3: Day at eight am. But how is that a bad thing?

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Speaker 4: Like, I'm just being nice and it's nothing bad about that.

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Speaker 6: Well, think about it, say that that, think about it,

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Speaker 6: think about it.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's when I wake up and I just

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Speaker 5: You know who says things like that?

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Speaker 6: Though non alphas?

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Speaker 1: It is true.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm an alpha.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that.

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Speaker 5: You can keep looking in the mirror and telling yourself

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Speaker 5: that and like maybe someday your fairy godmother will appear

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Speaker 5: with a magic wand and make you into a real

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Speaker 2: That was so condescending. I feel like, since you're in

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Speaker 2: alpha Ora, don't you want someone who's not like two

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Speaker 5: Oh I need a real man. I need a real man.

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Speaker 2: What does it make him a real man? Because he

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Speaker 2: said good morning?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Were you mad? Also saying goodnight to.

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 5: To hang off? Can you hang up on him or me?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you see how this is going.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, but Jeffrey has to ask a question. He's

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that was extremely condescending for no reason.

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Speaker 2: It's more the thought of all of this, like stereotypical

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Speaker 2: male stuff that bothers me. Yeah, I'm sorry. Continue.

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Speaker 1: Normally I would ask if you two would go out

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Speaker 1: it off so well. I don't want to stop the

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't care. Guys, can you do me a favor?

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Speaker 5: Any more of your sim friends I accidentally match with?

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Speaker 4: Do not call me? Okay?

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Speaker 5: You know why?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: All right? We do not call this? All right? Okay?

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Speaker 1: She hung up.

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Speaker 2: She was terrible, Isaac.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I kind of liked it.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. He likes getting down a

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Speaker 1: little pushed around a little bit. Yeah, not even a little.

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Speaker 1: That was all right, elation. He wants to be a

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Speaker 1: masculine Yeah, Brook, make his fantasies come true. Tell him

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Speaker 1: something horrible, you get him.

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Speaker 2: I was going to tell him that he deserved more,

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Speaker 2: but I guess he doesn't want.

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Speaker 4: To hear that I deserve more. Aura, That's what I deserve.

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Speaker 2: King texting. I'm sure you'll get it back from her.

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Speaker 1: Luck Jeffrey in the morning. Does our producer not check

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Speaker 1: these phone numbers before we call them?

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Speaker 2: It's a good idea. Let's blame him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: We don't blame boyd enough. No, we don't.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I think. We need some type of

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Speaker 1: with our producer. Isn't that right?

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Speaker 2: B oh yeah, I'll go yell at him. No problem.

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Speaker 2: He's not very scared of me, is the only problem.

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Speaker 1: You got to really bring the intensity when you have

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Speaker 2: He usually laughs and that makes fun of me afterwards.

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Speaker 1: That's okay with Isaac. I don't know if he's fully

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Speaker 1: guess is he's definitely going to be sending her a

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Speaker 2: Okay, but listen, No, I'm not feeling sorry for him

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Speaker 2: when it doesn't work out anymore. Yes, exactly. He's asking

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he likes that. I know. I know he's

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Speaker 1: probably texting her right now being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: when you called me a simp over the radio, I

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Speaker 1: love take my money. And you know what that could

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Speaker 1: be you if there's someone in your life who's not

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Speaker 1: calling you back as long as her name isn't Aura, please,

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Speaker 1: we will go to back for you and as always,

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Speaker 1: find our entire library of Second Date updates wherever you

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Speaker 1: Brooke and Jeffrey