Speaker 1: Welcome to Danielle with the Stars. I am Danielle Fischel,
Speaker 1: a TV director, a podcaster forever to Panga, and a
Speaker 1: mom of two. Currently, though I am learning how to
Speaker 1: ballroom dance one step at a time. You will see
Speaker 1: me on season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars,
Speaker 1: premiering September sixteenth on ABC and Disney Plus, and throughout
Speaker 1: the process, I am recording this podcast chronicling my journey,
Speaker 1: giving you the inside story of one celebrities quest for
Speaker 1: a Mirror Ball Trophy. I am in the mix as
Speaker 1: we speak, practicing every day for the debut episode, a
Speaker 1: night that will mark the first time I have danced
Speaker 1: in front of an audience since I recited a poem
Speaker 1: for Corey and applied lipstick across my face on Boy
Speaker 1: Meets at only twelve years old. Not kidding, but I
Speaker 1: figure the best way to prep for the moment is
Speaker 1: to talk to those who have competed before me, and
Speaker 1: today I have the privilege of talking to another superhero
Speaker 1: from the extended Podmeets World universe, a fellow tgiflum who
Speaker 1: already competed on Dancing with the Stars and lived to
Speaker 1: talk about it. She appeared on season twenty two of
Speaker 1: the show back in twenty sixteen and was partnered with
Speaker 1: dancer Kyo Mutzepi, finishing in sixth place and suffering one
Speaker 1: of the more dramatic injuries in Dancing with the Star's history.
Speaker 1: But don't get it twisted like her ankle. Even though
Speaker 1: week eight was her last, she went out with two
Speaker 1: basically perfect scores, a thirty on her jive and a
Speaker 1: twenty nine for her tango team up. She's the real
Speaker 1: deal and I know I need her help. Today on
Speaker 1: Danielle with the Stars, I am paired with Stephanie Tanner,
Speaker 1: herself the iconic middle child of full and Fuller House
Speaker 1: and the co host of How rutan Arito's Say Hello
Speaker 1: to Jody Sweeten. Hello, Hello, Jody. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for agreeing to talk to me. I am for agreeing to.
Speaker 2: Talk to you as if I that's uh.
Speaker 3: You're right, because I don't thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have agreed for these purposes only for
Speaker 2: the next forty five to fifty five minutes, I.
Speaker 3: Will speak to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate it. I know normally you
Speaker 1: have a strict no Danielle policy too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: From the second I met you, it's just been like, no,
Speaker 2: we don't get along.
Speaker 1: We don't will we will not discuss Yeah, no, okay,
Speaker 1: I know. But seriously, I really do appreciate it because
Speaker 1: I am in week one of practice and not since
Speaker 1: our Kushling's commercial have I felt this nervous about what
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: So my god, Well, look, if you can handle Kushlings,
Speaker 2: you can handle dancing with the stars, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: They're very transferable skills.
Speaker 1: Oh, very friends, that makes me feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: I I just wanted to know. Did I make a
Speaker 1: bad decision here agreeing to do the show? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.
Speaker 2: Did you you like to dance and also be terrified
Speaker 2: on live TV in front of a large room full
Speaker 2: of screaming people?
Speaker 1: So were you terrified even though you're a great dancer? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh terrified.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: I will tell you this. I will tell you this.
Speaker 2: You will learn to hate those three clicks, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: because you'll hear them and that's when your music starts,
Speaker 2: and when you're in the ballroom half the time you
Speaker 2: can't hear it. Because people they want everybody to scream.
Speaker 1: So those the first.
Speaker 2: Like ten seconds when you're there and you're like, I
Speaker 2: just want to hear the music.
Speaker 1: Because if you know, if you don't hear that, you're like,
Speaker 1: you're going to be off. Yeah once if you start
Speaker 1: off on a bad foot, how do you ever catch up? Right?
Speaker 1: Right right right?
Speaker 2: But no, I and I don't mean to scare you
Speaker 2: because it was so much fun. It was such incredibly
Speaker 2: hard work, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: And I I did it.
Speaker 2: I mean I used to go watch ballroom dance competitions
Speaker 2: when I was like in my late teens.
Speaker 3: I'm a nerd and I love dance.
Speaker 1: That was your fun time.
Speaker 3: I mean not like.
Speaker 2: Every weekend, but I definitely went to a few because
Speaker 2: I loved ballroom dance and it was a type of
Speaker 2: dance that I never did, and it was partnering, but
Speaker 2: I just loved watching it. So when I got the
Speaker 2: chance to do it, it was amazing.
Speaker 1: How did you get the chance to do it? Did
Speaker 1: they approach you? What was the situation with how you
Speaker 1: joined the season? Uh?
Speaker 2: They approached me. It had been something I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this would be fun, and we had talked about it
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Maybe second season.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what because we were shooting Fuller.
Speaker 2: We started shooting Fuller in twenty fifteen, and I want
Speaker 2: to say it was twenty.
Speaker 3: Sixteen, like season two.
Speaker 2: I think that I did Dancing with the Stars and
Speaker 2: they came to me. Max and Val had done an
Speaker 2: episode on Fuller.
Speaker 1: House oh famous a famous dancer brother doing.
Speaker 2: The Answer Brothers, the Schmikowsky's, and Candace had been VAL's
Speaker 2: partner when she did Dancing with Stars, and so they
Speaker 2: had done an episode and it was super fun and
Speaker 2: you know, and so then it was just kind of
Speaker 2: like I think that was maybe the seed planted amongst
Speaker 2: them a little bit, but it definitely once I went
Speaker 2: back to Fuller that that was kind of when it happened.
Speaker 2: And then I got eliminated the night before I went
Speaker 2: back to start working on season three, Season two season anyway,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would have been doing both shows and
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I could do it. And then
Speaker 2: once I started back doing Fuller, I was like, I
Speaker 2: am so glad I'm doing too.
Speaker 1: How would it have been possible?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was one of those things where like I do,
Speaker 2: I say yes and then figure it and then panic later.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's how I try to.
Speaker 2: Rule my life is just sure and then go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, what have you done?
Speaker 1: What have you done? Help me figure this out? Someone
Speaker 1: helped me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but no, I was glad that because that
Speaker 2: would have been a lot, because it's as you do. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean you're in just the first week, but it's
Speaker 2: a lot anyway, Yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe the rules have changed. I don't
Speaker 1: know about when.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what are the rules now post COVID post.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time. It's been almost ten years
Speaker 2: since I.
Speaker 1: Well, they they're limiting it, limiting us currently to only
Speaker 1: four hours a day, five days a week.
Speaker 2: That was, we have a limit, okay, have a limit
Speaker 2: four hours a day, five days a week. But I
Speaker 2: that was I went full out from.
Speaker 1: Day one, got it. That's what I figured. I figured
Speaker 1: you were. Yeah. I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about your dance history, because I know you had never
Speaker 1: done ballroom before, but if people remember full House or
Speaker 1: have just kept track of your history and memes, they
Speaker 1: would know that if.
Speaker 3: You've seen a me, I mean you've seen me dancing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when did you start dancing? As a kid.
Speaker 2: Uh, dance was the first thing I ever did. I
Speaker 2: started dancing when I was about three. I started in
Speaker 2: like ballet and tap and you know, just having fun.
Speaker 2: But I loved it. I always loved performing. And really
Speaker 2: my first day dance recital was where my mom kind
Speaker 2: of saw that, like not saw that I was like
Speaker 2: enjoyed performing, but saw that I had zero problem being
Speaker 2: on a stage and moving other people out of the
Speaker 2: way so I could excuse me, you get Oh.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I was dressed as a little cabbage patch with a
Speaker 2: giant nineteen eighty four ok so, okayay, five sequins satin
Speaker 2: homemade costumes I had. I had like a giant bonnet
Speaker 2: thing for like look like a little cabbage patch kid.
Speaker 2: And that was my ballet number. And then I was
Speaker 2: dressed like a small duck. Oh my tap dancing number
Speaker 2: called I Am a dancing duck. I am the dancing duck.
Speaker 2: I am Tap tap tup.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do a video of this.
Speaker 2: It's on VHS and my parents have it. But I
Speaker 2: do have the costume some okay, I have Oh, I
Speaker 2: have the little duck costume. I've got little orange tights
Speaker 2: that are probably this big you hitting my little tap
Speaker 2: shoes and the little feathers and the hat.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. So, as you mentioned, it's a difference
Speaker 1: than doing a partner dance. Absolutely. Do you think having
Speaker 1: a background and dance helped you or hurt you?
Speaker 2: Of course, no, having a background and dance definitely helps.
Speaker 2: I mean it gives you the baseline for everything, okay,
Speaker 2: for turns, for holds, for a posture.
Speaker 1: All of that kind of stuff. Great, I have zero I'm.
Speaker 3: Hand placement all of that.
Speaker 2: It just makes it a little easier if your hands
Speaker 2: don't look like this, you know you're used to kind
Speaker 2: of blowing them or whatever.
Speaker 1: What was I saying? It? Did dance help you work?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 3: There we go, So it helps me.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing Dancing with the Stars now because I
Speaker 2: forget my own name. You No, it definitely helped. It
Speaker 2: definitely helped, and because I loved it, I wanted to
Speaker 2: do it every day. I mean I want I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to dance four hours a day every day
Speaker 2: and push myself right.
Speaker 1: And so how quickly did you adjust to being with
Speaker 1: a partner.
Speaker 2: Well, you learn very quickly that your job is sort
Speaker 2: of just to.
Speaker 1: Follow okay, which is hard. Yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2: You're probably much like I am, and you're like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I'm I can't charge. Yeah, I gotta know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And so that was like the hardest thing was really holds.
Speaker 2: You think you're just in a hold and dancing, but
Speaker 2: like no, no, no, your back and your arms and you're like,
Speaker 2: it's And I remember when I.
Speaker 1: We had a switch up week.
Speaker 2: I was with Keo and we had val and he
Speaker 2: would make me wear weights on my hands so that
Speaker 2: then when you took the weights off, it was that
Speaker 2: much easier to hold your hand, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you got used to having that.
Speaker 1: Sort of weight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it was a lot, but it definitely having
Speaker 2: a back a dance background was kind of key.
Speaker 1: I think it helped kind of push.
Speaker 3: Me along a little further.
Speaker 2: And Okay, I definitely think it helped who I think
Speaker 2: who won our season was Gingersy, and I think she
Speaker 2: had some dance background as well.
Speaker 1: So it can help, Okay, it can help for sure. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: well I don't have that so but let me tell.
Speaker 2: You there's also been like amazing ice skaters, ice dancers
Speaker 2: and other dancers that just don't make it the show.
Speaker 1: You never do we know of any klutzy middle aged
Speaker 1: women who've won, oh, who've won? Because that's what that's
Speaker 1: what I'm going for. I'm a real, real klutzy middle
Speaker 1: aged woman. I'm gonna just try to learn some grace.
Speaker 2: I feel like, learn, learn some grace, be patient with yourself. Okay,
Speaker 2: somewhere around week three or four, you'll probably have a meltdown. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's kind of what it happens. It's I found that like,
Speaker 2: by the like week four, I had been practicing.
Speaker 3: Every day, we had had a couple of show, Like,
Speaker 3: I was just.
Speaker 2: Burnt, and it was like my brain stopped being able
Speaker 2: to kind of absorb information for like two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I yeah, it was did.
Speaker 1: You slow down during those days? Did you? Then?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, But I did throw a fit.
Speaker 2: I did in the middle of my rehearsal. I wasn't
Speaker 2: getting something. I don't remember what it was, but it
Speaker 2: was like one of those stupid things were for whatever
Speaker 2: reason in my brain, I was like turning right.
Speaker 1: And it was supposed to be left, and I just
Speaker 1: couldn't get it.
Speaker 2: And I was just frustrated, and so I tried to
Speaker 2: make a really dramatic exit to the bathroom, okay, and
Speaker 2: the door handle wouldn't work, and so I was just
Speaker 2: spinning the door handle on camera because you know, they
Speaker 2: precred everything while trying to and I actually it made
Speaker 2: me laugh at myself because I was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you gonna settle down?
Speaker 1: You're really having a tanta Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I still had to go have a little tantrum
Speaker 2: and like cry in the bathroom, and then I was like, okay.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, Well, thank you for thinking it's
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to week four before I breakdown.
Speaker 3: But I do appreciate that you are absolutely going to
Speaker 3: make it to week for.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Can we talk about wardrobe also, because
Speaker 1: I don't really fully know what I'm in for with
Speaker 1: the outfits, so any advice you have is appreciated. How
Speaker 1: much input do you have in the things you wear?
Speaker 3: A fair amount, okay, because they come.
Speaker 2: To your rehearsals usually, okay, the wardrobe people. They will
Speaker 2: come to your rehearsals and see what your dance.
Speaker 1: Looks like, so that whatever they are.
Speaker 3: Creating for you kind of work well.
Speaker 2: And there's also like you know, fox trot, some of
Speaker 2: the like baller dances like that you have to wear
Speaker 2: a long dress.
Speaker 1: That's you know, samba.
Speaker 3: You're always in a like sort of swingy little thing
Speaker 3: because it makes your hips look really great.
Speaker 2: But you will you will have people changing you and
Speaker 2: putting body makeup in places while you're standing in.
Speaker 1: A room full of crowded people, and you will.
Speaker 2: The thing about dance, live theater and live television is
Speaker 2: you learn there is no modesty. You're like, I don't
Speaker 2: I have a quick change. I have to change from
Speaker 2: one number to the next, and I'm getting.
Speaker 1: Naked right here. Yeah, I gotta do it.
Speaker 2: They don't make you get naked in front of the
Speaker 2: whole room of people, but it's you're like, just we
Speaker 2: gotta get this done, like you gotta go.
Speaker 1: You know. I remember thinking before I had children, someone
Speaker 1: saying like I don't remember what I had said, but
Speaker 1: saying something like and then so then you just have
Speaker 1: all those people in the room. And my mom said, oh, yeah, Dangelle,
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about it when you're getting burn And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I bet I'm gonna think about it.
Speaker 1: And then guess what I guess you're not about it.
Speaker 3: It's amazing how things certain things take.
Speaker 2: Over and you're like, I don't care, don't get it
Speaker 2: all of it. Yeah, but yeah, I mean that. I
Speaker 2: will say it's really fun. The costumes are really fun.
Speaker 2: But I will warn you you do not dance in
Speaker 2: your costume right until dress rehearsal.
Speaker 1: Okay, which is the day before the show. No, I
Speaker 1: mean the day of the show. Oh you don't you
Speaker 1: for camera blocking, you're not in your wardrobe.
Speaker 2: Uh no, wow, camera block and you're not in your wardrobe.
Speaker 2: You wear your wardrobe day of the show. At least
Speaker 2: we did our season day of the show for your
Speaker 2: dress rehearsal that day.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And let me tell you.
Speaker 2: It throws things off sometimes because when we did our samba,
Speaker 2: I was used to.
Speaker 3: Turning with zero weight on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I put a beaded dress on that weighed probably twelve pounds.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And all of the beating is at the hips.
Speaker 2: So when you're turning now, Kio was like, you got
Speaker 2: to turn harder, Like you can't, it's not reading. And
Speaker 2: I'm like I'm trying, you know, like swowing my hips
Speaker 2: around and yeah, like that's Another thing that you don't
Speaker 2: think of is all of a sudden, once you have
Speaker 2: that on things that you may have been.
Speaker 1: Doing in gym clothes.
Speaker 3: Yes, all of a sudden you It just makes it
Speaker 3: a little bit different.
Speaker 1: So wow, okay, that's really good to think about, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna be wearing? How quickly am I?
Speaker 1: How am I gonna need? Does swing these hips? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How important does picking songs end up being? It's pretty important.
Speaker 2: But they have a lot to say, so, like, okay,
Speaker 2: they have most of the say is like it'll usually
Speaker 2: be like, oh, here's whatever, the few songs, the five
Speaker 2: songs that we like for this particular dance style or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then they'll kind of choose one and sometimes they'll
Speaker 2: be like, those are great, we didn't pick any of those.
Speaker 2: So here's what you're gonna do.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's yeah for week one? For you, who did you
Speaker 1: invite into the audience to watch? Uh? Week one? I
Speaker 1: believe it was my parents and my kids. Oh I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think I'm trying to think of people I invited kind
Speaker 2: of over time. I know Lori Lachlan came, Candice came,
Speaker 2: I believe Andrea came.
Speaker 3: And then just like you know, other friends and stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it was my parents and my
Speaker 2: kids and the audience theft for that first one that
Speaker 2: is so cute.
Speaker 1: Uh. Did you have immediate chemistry with Kio or was
Speaker 1: it something that grew over time? Did it click right away?
Speaker 1: What was your relationship like with him?
Speaker 2: It clicked right away. We got along so well and
Speaker 2: we had so much fun.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 2: Was actually really grateful for him as a teacher because
Speaker 2: he was patient but pushed me, if that makes sense,
Speaker 2: like he it wasn't. I mean, look, Max and Val
Speaker 2: are amazing dancers, but the Ukrainian methods of teaching things
Speaker 2: are strict. Again waits you know you're dancing with a
Speaker 2: broom handle.
Speaker 1: And you're it's right, it's uh, it's strict.
Speaker 2: It's a lot and uh and and Q I think
Speaker 2: was able to push me in ways, but also knew
Speaker 2: when I was like again, having a frustrated moment, and
Speaker 2: he'd be like, okay, let's you know.
Speaker 1: What, let's say and we would just be stupid and laugh.
Speaker 2: And we had all kinds of little inside jokes and
Speaker 2: you know, code words and stuff, and you know, when
Speaker 2: you're dancing out there, doing the show. You're talking to
Speaker 2: each other the whole time. Yeah, and you know you
Speaker 2: are just like in it and yeah, you really.
Speaker 3: I mean, you definitely get to know and trust the
Speaker 3: people that you're out there dancing with.
Speaker 2: And I'd say for women on the show, it's a
Speaker 2: little bit different because the guys, the male contestants are
Speaker 2: kind of they have to lead and they don't know how,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So like it's sort of
Speaker 2: a I think in some ways, being a woman on
Speaker 2: the show is a little bit easier in that you
Speaker 2: can kind of fall into the trust of going with
Speaker 2: your partner a little bit easier, which is kind of
Speaker 2: one of the keys of ballroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you say that because in all the
Speaker 1: seasons I've watched, I've always thought, man, the women have
Speaker 1: it so much harder. It feels like they have to
Speaker 1: do so many more, like they do somebody or spins
Speaker 1: and and and I noticed, no matter what my I
Speaker 1: is watching the woman, I'm just watching, well, I'm just
Speaker 1: watching her dance.
Speaker 2: That's why we get the fancy costumes and the thing.
Speaker 2: And it is true, you're as women, you you are
Speaker 2: expected to do more because the male dancer of in
Speaker 2: partners just kind of leading and sort of the position
Speaker 2: there while somebody else. So it is in that regard,
Speaker 2: like their partner can do a lot of showy things
Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm not even looking at him.
Speaker 1: You guys agree that dance was amazing, amazing you were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, it's but also like knowing that you
Speaker 2: can kind of relax and you don't have to be
Speaker 2: the yeah, the one to remember every single next step right,
Speaker 2: they'll put you in right, although I did when we
Speaker 2: did our season, I did have to dance with another contestant.
Speaker 2: I danced with Nile de Marco, Yes, which was interesting
Speaker 2: because he's deaf.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you did have quite a season of fellow competitors,
Speaker 1: Heraldo Rivera, Marla Maples, Antonio Brown, Misha Barton. Did you
Speaker 1: did you do any fraternizing with the other kid? Not
Speaker 1: with those four?
Speaker 2: Okay, An, I mean I feel like the first two
Speaker 2: were fairly obvious. Yeah, uh no, I mean they were lovely.
Speaker 2: Everyone was nice.
Speaker 1: No, I would say that people I probably got closest to.
Speaker 2: Janye Morris was on my season from Boys to Men, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 1: Who else? Who else?
Speaker 2: Paige Van's aunt. Paige and I spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time together. Ginger z she was a doll. We kind
Speaker 2: of always had similar like.
Speaker 1: Rehearsal schedules.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Antonio was like never there. I felt so
Speaker 2: bad for Sharna, Like really it was kind of it
Speaker 2: was Antonio was Antonio all over the place and uh yeah.
Speaker 1: He would just leave, like the.
Speaker 2: Car would be there to pick him up and be
Speaker 2: like three hours later. John was like, guess we're not
Speaker 2: rehearsing today.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gosh, yeah, okay, did you have any weird
Speaker 1: run ins?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, good no, yeah, no.
Speaker 3: Weird run ins.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: Everyone, like I said, everyone was excited and like.
Speaker 1: Happy to be there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was all super supportive and you know,
Speaker 2: but it was I think the people that go the
Speaker 2: first few weeks, Yeah, it's you don't. You just don't
Speaker 2: get as close to them because by the week one
Speaker 2: and two they're not They're gone.
Speaker 1: Right. So your first dance was to Confidence by Demi Levado.
Speaker 1: What do you remember from that first night? What were
Speaker 1: your nerves like?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was terrified, Okay, terrified.
Speaker 1: I actually have a picture.
Speaker 2: Oh I did where did it go?
Speaker 1: Someone stole your photo.
Speaker 2: Someone stole my photo. No, I have a photo of
Speaker 2: it somewhere, a picture from that first dance. Oh, it's terrifying.
Speaker 2: And you and and and then you think you did great,
Speaker 2: and then you get the judges, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, what was you? Do you remember your first score?
Speaker 3: I remember I don't remember my first score.
Speaker 1: I think it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: It was like sevens, Okay, that's great, sevens six is
Speaker 2: sevens maybe, But I do remember Carrie Anne uh said something.
Speaker 2: She was like, your face the whole time you were dancing.
Speaker 2: I just didn't like you were face so that I.
Speaker 1: Was like, cool things. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: She was like, I just didn't like what was happening
Speaker 3: on your face. And I was like, it's called concentration.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what that is. Actually, it's funny that
Speaker 1: you say that, because now it's been one of the
Speaker 1: things that's been the hardest for me trying to learn.
Speaker 1: You think that doing what we do, our personalities would
Speaker 1: come through while we're dancing, But I'm so focused on
Speaker 1: remembering the steps and the form and everything else that
Speaker 1: my face is very different.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, or I just kind of like I
Speaker 2: get like an intense when I'm like doing something and
Speaker 2: so I'm like and and it was like I looked
Speaker 2: kind of angry.
Speaker 1: Right, but I was just focused, just focused, I know.
Speaker 3: No, But but yeah, you'll get notes on stuff where
Speaker 3: you're like really and.
Speaker 2: Then sometimes you'll be like, okay, now I see that,
Speaker 2: I see that. Yeah, but yeah, it's uh, it's nerve racking.
Speaker 2: And like I said, those when you get out there
Speaker 2: and the room start screaming and you hear the announcement
Speaker 2: of like it's Jody and Keo dancing that, and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, hold on, I don't know anything. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything.
Speaker 2: And then like you just hear the three clicks and
Speaker 2: you're like it's time. It's like a roller coaster, like
Speaker 2: you get you're just going, going up to the top,
Speaker 2: and then the music starts and you're just kind of
Speaker 2: going and you go and you're just following along and
Speaker 2: you're like.
Speaker 3: And there's a sort of a freedom innute because once you.
Speaker 1: Get there, you're like, okay, yes, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like any live show. The terrifying part of
Speaker 2: stepping off the l edge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is actually really cool. Yeah, absolutely, and exactly
Speaker 1: once you get through that part or in your pants,
Speaker 1: which is always my like go to feeling like I'm I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna be sud I'm gonna tell you in those outfits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great. Okay, So I won't be staying hydrated
Speaker 1: on the show, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you will be hydrated, but you'll be sweating
Speaker 2: so much that you you could drink just a giant
Speaker 2: arrowhead gallons.
Speaker 1: Of water and it would sweat right out. Okay, when
Speaker 1: you get a not so great score or a score
Speaker 1: you're not happy about, how do you maintain a smile
Speaker 1: because I'm worried they're going to give me a score
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna think I did much better than that,
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna want to be like, hey, you
Speaker 1: let me tell you something right, Well, that happens the
Speaker 1: look that does happen.
Speaker 2: I seem to remember somebody on our season being like
Speaker 2: kind of being like, well, act that you know you
Speaker 2: you because sometimes they'll pick at something that you're like.
Speaker 3: Well that wasn't I mean, I you know, okay, but
Speaker 3: like I couldn't fix that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2: I can't fix my face that's just the face I got,
Speaker 2: Like whatever it is that you're like kind of frustrated by, right,
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's an exercise in.
Speaker 3: In uh grace.
Speaker 2: To have someone tell you something that you did wrong
Speaker 2: live on television and just go, yes, that's you're right.
Speaker 1: Yes I saw that too, thank you. Thanks.
Speaker 2: And then you're walking off stage with your partner and
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I can't believe I missed stupid term.
Speaker 3: Yeah all right.
Speaker 1: So then in week three and four you ended up
Speaker 1: being the last celebrity to be called safe.
Speaker 3: What is tormenting me?
Speaker 1: Does that feel like awful?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: The world awful. It feels awful because.
Speaker 2: Because you know, like there's some people you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: they're like and not to sound, but there are there's
Speaker 2: people were like, okay, I know they're probably like that
Speaker 2: the dance was maybe wasn't greater, you know, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: then there's some times you're like, I M M, no idea,
Speaker 2: I am not in the bottom, right, I know, I'm
Speaker 2: not in the bottom, you know, like rights, it's just
Speaker 2: a it's a mind game, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: It's just sort of a mind game sometimes too.
Speaker 1: They got some.
Speaker 2: Several people have to be in the bottom and somebody's
Speaker 2: got to go home.
Speaker 1: So they have to scare people occasionally.
Speaker 2: But it's awful because you feel like you've worked so
Speaker 2: hard and you've done so much, and you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I guess I guess that's the guess that sucked.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I you had a trajectory that I
Speaker 1: hope to emulate in the sense that your first week
Speaker 1: was your lowest score, but by the time you then
Speaker 1: got to week five, it all had just seemed to
Speaker 1: click and you never scored under a twenty five again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what do you think happened in those first five
Speaker 1: weeks that really just catapulted you?
Speaker 2: Well, after that first week, I replaced my face.
Speaker 1: Okay, you put a smile on? I did, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: put it.
Speaker 3: I just put the smile on.
Speaker 1: I think one nerves.
Speaker 2: But I also think that that first week, everybody kind
Speaker 2: of scores, you know what I mean, Like they got
Speaker 2: to give you somewhere to go totally, and that first
Speaker 2: week isn't great usually, you know what I mean. There's
Speaker 2: it's you're getting used to it, it's your first live show.
Speaker 2: By the time you're in a few weeks, you're kind
Speaker 2: of like Okay, I know the routine, I know what happens.
Speaker 2: This seems a little more like a normal schedule that
Speaker 2: I have that I can be accustomed to. But like
Speaker 2: that first week just feels like you're kind of all
Speaker 2: over the place, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's then week six and you get injured and
Speaker 1: rushed to the hospital. Oh what happened? Here? Walk us
Speaker 1: through the whole injury. Uh.
Speaker 2: This was before I had my big injury where I
Speaker 2: snapped my ankle on my left side and cash a
Speaker 2: bunch of pins and a plate and all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Still, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: This was prior to that, Okay, which probably made dancing
Speaker 3: a lot easier.
Speaker 2: Uh, but I definitely like, so we were doing there's
Speaker 2: things that you do and you're like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: this feels kind of hard. We were it was the
Speaker 2: week we were recreating iconic dances, and we were doing
Speaker 2: Pink's video for Try Okay, which I don't know if
Speaker 2: you've ever seen the video, It's like she's being thrown
Speaker 2: on the mattress and dragged, you know, and all this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It's very like intense and physical and
Speaker 2: very physical because Pink.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly goodness, an absolute athlete. Oh my god. So
Speaker 1: they're like, you're going to recreate that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh okay.
Speaker 2: And there was one move that they did where basically
Speaker 2: it was a counterbalance of myself and Kio. Right, so
Speaker 2: we're leaning away from each other, but I am supporting
Speaker 2: our weight. My legs are the ones on the ground
Speaker 2: and hit and I forget how we were intertwined, but
Speaker 2: basically I have to keep my hips and my core
Speaker 2: up or the whole thing collapses down. We had tried
Speaker 2: it a couple times before cameras got there.
Speaker 1: We had tried it.
Speaker 2: We had tried it, and it was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: I it's a lot, it's you know, like, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: a big dude.
Speaker 3: And it was just the like the the balance of it.
Speaker 2: If you if you weren't exactly right, and if I
Speaker 2: didn't hold that strength, like if everything came crashing down.
Speaker 2: And that's basically what happened was the original choreographers came
Speaker 2: to help us with the you know, with our our
Speaker 2: dance and perfecting stuff and whatever, and they were like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we want to see you try this, you know, this move.
Speaker 2: Of course they wanted it on camera, and I was like,
Speaker 2: this one was hard. Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess, and we did it.
Speaker 2: And then I was tired and so my core just
Speaker 2: kind of collapsed and my ankle rolled and Keio with
Speaker 2: his tailbone, came down right on top of my ankle
Speaker 2: bone and just shammed it into.
Speaker 1: The wood floor, wood floor. I was like, up there,
Speaker 1: we go there.
Speaker 2: It was so painful. It was the side of my foot,
Speaker 2: like the bones on the side of my foot on
Speaker 2: the outer edge, uh huh, those little metatarsals and the
Speaker 2: ankle bone. And I was cra I mean, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I it was really really painful, and
Speaker 2: I was like trying to.
Speaker 1: Put weight on it and it just hurt. And I
Speaker 1: was like oh.
Speaker 2: And I was so upset because I was like no, no, no,
Speaker 2: this can't be like, this is not this is not
Speaker 2: the way I go home like sobbing, crying. They called
Speaker 2: ambulance because of course, you know, ship you over there
Speaker 2: and drama, So they shift the ambulance. Keo gets in
Speaker 2: the ambulance with me. I remember, he's sitting there holding
Speaker 2: my purse and we're like on our way to the
Speaker 2: emergency room.
Speaker 3: I call my mom. I'm like, I'm going to the er.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, it's just my ankle.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 3: Then my gosh.
Speaker 1: We're in the er.
Speaker 2: Keo's there with me, and we're there and they do
Speaker 2: all these X rays and everything, and they find out
Speaker 2: it was a like a severe bone bruise. So I like, okay,
Speaker 2: it bruised the bones on the outside of my foot
Speaker 2: and the soft tissue, so it was really really tender
Speaker 2: to the touch, but nothing was broken. I didn't feel
Speaker 2: great to dance on, but it wasn't I wasn't going to,
Speaker 2: you know, further aggravate anything. But while we were sitting
Speaker 2: there waiting for the doctor. I will never forget, that's
Speaker 2: when the news the Prince died came in and I
Speaker 2: was sitting in Cedar Sinai and then I started crying
Speaker 2: all over.
Speaker 3: Again because I love Prince. But I will never forget.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That was when I was doing Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 2: and I hurt myself and I was in the hospital
Speaker 2: and Ko and I went, oh no, because we had
Speaker 2: just been talking about some song that yeah, so wow. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so weird random like things that I remember from.
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you definitely win. You know, whenever somebody's like,
Speaker 1: I know you always remember where you were during yeah
Speaker 1: you have you You're like, yes, I do, I do. Yes.
Speaker 2: And then there was another injury where I thought he
Speaker 2: broke my nose where we were doing a hold and
Speaker 2: he had to like drop me really like into a
Speaker 2: thing really quick and like spin and I hit his face,
Speaker 2: just punched me right in the nose and I heard
Speaker 2: a crack and oh no, Like I ran out of
Speaker 2: the room because I thought it was blood. It was
Speaker 2: just like snot from getting hit really hard.
Speaker 3: But I was like, oh great, cool broke my nose, like.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, And then you ended up hurting your
Speaker 1: ankle where it like shattered and you needed a plate
Speaker 1: and screws or that was a separate injury.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a separate injury. I was rescuing a
Speaker 2: one dollar toy for B like the next year sometime,
Speaker 2: and I went over a small fence and landed on
Speaker 2: the inside of my left ankle and then the bottom
Speaker 2: of my foot was pointing sideways.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, okay, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, It does make sense actually to me that
Speaker 1: children are how we hurt ourselves?
Speaker 3: Yeah more yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I'll get it. Totally worth the
Speaker 3: one dollar toy, yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly, anything to avoid the tantrum.
Speaker 2: Like right, I was like, well, I was being a
Speaker 2: hot shot. I was like, I can hop a fence,
Speaker 2: you know. I was like, I've hopped fence under way
Speaker 2: worse conditions than this. Yeah, and then I but apparently
Speaker 2: I'd never hopped a fence in ugs.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I do not recommend that there is the
Speaker 2: killer ankle support zero. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So were you at any point in time, I know
Speaker 1: you mentioned that when you were then let go from
Speaker 1: the show you then started season three. Was there ever
Speaker 1: a time where you were shooting season two and doing
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars at the same time. No, okay,
Speaker 1: because on hiatus, right, I was on hiatus because we had.
Speaker 2: I think that the season before they had asked me
Speaker 2: to do it, and we were trying to figure out
Speaker 2: how can I make this work? And my manager, Rachel,
Speaker 2: who you know, has had several clients on there as
Speaker 2: dancers and as contestants, and she was just like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think you really want to do this?
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I really want to
Speaker 2: do this, and it just full House was like Fuller
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, no, we can't write this is we
Speaker 2: love you but no, And so it kind of happened
Speaker 2: over hiatus. But then, like I said, I got a
Speaker 2: perfect score all tens on my jove.
Speaker 1: Yeah this is week eight, one week before the semifinals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one week before the semifinals. And and I
Speaker 2: was eliminated. And literally the next morning was back on
Speaker 2: the set of Fuller.
Speaker 1: So my gosh, okay, so you score a perfect thirty
Speaker 1: on your drive and then you also got a twenty
Speaker 1: nine on your team up tango and yes, somehow you
Speaker 1: were eliminated. Did you feel like this was coming? This
Speaker 1: seems like people should have been protesting outside of CBS.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I was super happy to go out, how I did.
Speaker 2: I loved that jive, it was one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: Got a great score. I felt like I went out
Speaker 2: on top. And I was like, and I didn't have
Speaker 2: to like kill myself to get right to do both jobs,
Speaker 2: to do both jobs, because I think I would have
Speaker 2: sucked at both of them, you know, like that would
Speaker 2: suffer and I wouldn't have been very funny. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it was probably better that I just tried to do
Speaker 2: one thing at a time.
Speaker 1: After you were eliminated. Did you watch the Semis and
Speaker 1: the finals or did did you just need some distance
Speaker 1: from it?
Speaker 2: I didn't, But I was like I knew all that
Speaker 2: was going on, you know what I mean, Like I
Speaker 2: didn't care about watching it on TV. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: let me just hear the gossip from everybody. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: still in the MA and people on said and contestants,
Speaker 2: you know, just sending pictures or doing all all this
Speaker 2: one really well, yeah, no, I wasn't. I I was
Speaker 2: really sad the night we got eliminated. And I remember,
Speaker 2: because you get eliminated and then they're like, okay, now
Speaker 2: go do a press line, and you're like, we did
Speaker 2: our press line. And then Kio and I went back
Speaker 2: into the ballroom and it was empty. They cleared everything
Speaker 2: out for the night, and he and I just went
Speaker 2: and sat in there for a while and talked, and
Speaker 2: it was really nice, and it was like a really
Speaker 2: nice way to feel like, Okay, I gave this floor
Speaker 2: everything I could. I gave this partner everything I could,
Speaker 2: and we he went further than he had ever gone
Speaker 2: in the show. His mom flew in from South Africa
Speaker 2: to see his dance. He hadn't seen her in like
Speaker 2: nine years. So yeah, it was really cool and really
Speaker 2: special and yeah, and I didn't but I didn't. I
Speaker 2: didn't watch the rest of it after Wow, I saw highlights.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah I have And I have a picture
Speaker 2: of Key and I sitting on the steps of the
Speaker 2: ballroom floor like where the band aid stuff is, and
Speaker 2: somebody took a picture of us from behind just kind
Speaker 2: of like that is like looking out at the Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a nice moment to get to say, like,
Speaker 2: thank you. I'm really glad I got to do this.
Speaker 1: There is one more dance I want to ask you about,
Speaker 1: because when I first signed onto doing the show, Jensen
Speaker 1: and I decided to just pick one of our friends
Speaker 1: who had been on it and just see how they did.
Speaker 1: And we picked you, and we were like, let's watch
Speaker 1: one of Jody's dances.
Speaker 2: Which one did you watch?
Speaker 1: Tell me didn't watch the Disney word samba.
Speaker 3: Oh, the samba, Yes, the samba with the dress that
Speaker 3: weighed so much.
Speaker 1: That's the one that weighed twelve pounds, well, weighed.
Speaker 2: Like twelve out And that was the one that I
Speaker 2: that I had put on and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're hauling ourselves out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched that dance and I said, how did
Speaker 1: she not win? It was spectacular?
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. That one was really great. I
Speaker 3: loved that dance.
Speaker 2: That dance was amazing, and I think Hailey Herbert and
Speaker 2: Jenna were I think it was Jenna and Haley were
Speaker 2: like the other two kind of backup dancers for like
Speaker 2: the first little moment or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean really incredible. I think you that you
Speaker 1: scored a twenty one for that dance, and I that's
Speaker 1: one of those moments where I want to be like,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm gonna need you to put the scores
Speaker 1: down and and rewatch, let's replay play the play the
Speaker 1: clip and then and then give her a better score,
Speaker 1: because I literally implored if I was even do it
Speaker 1: every one of those where I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: won a twenty one, that was not a twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely not. So I just have to tell you how
Speaker 1: how incredible I thought, specifically that dance was.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: That one was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one was really fun and like the costume
Speaker 2: was amazing. But that was one of those where I
Speaker 2: was like, oh this is this is the costume challenge
Speaker 2: where you're like I just figured this out two hours
Speaker 2: ago and now I have to relearn things.
Speaker 1: Yes, So looking back now, how do you feel about
Speaker 1: your overall performance? Do you think you exceeded your own expectations?
Speaker 1: To be honest, I wanted to make it to the end. Okay,
Speaker 1: you wanted to make it to that.
Speaker 3: You wanted to make it to the end.
Speaker 1: But I was really happy with how I did.
Speaker 2: I had to let go of this idea that everything
Speaker 2: was going to be perfect and just do my best,
Speaker 2: you know, right. I mean I think everybody that goes
Speaker 2: on is like I want to make it to the end. Maybe,
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe not like Geraldo, but right, I think
Speaker 2: most people, if you're really serious about it, or you
Speaker 2: have any kind of dance or you just are loving
Speaker 2: the show, like I really want to make it to
Speaker 2: the end. But no, I I was really proud of
Speaker 2: how hard I worked. I was really proud of what
Speaker 2: Kio and I did. You know some of the things
Speaker 2: that we fought for to get for set design and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. You know, it's you, you are, You
Speaker 2: have a lot of input. You and your partner have
Speaker 2: a lot of input and sometimes you got to really
Speaker 2: fight for what you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And I was just really proud of of what we
Speaker 2: did and what we accomplished, and I thought it looked
Speaker 2: great except for my Disney Week.
Speaker 1: I hated my Disney Week. What was Disney Week?
Speaker 2: What did you do? God?
Speaker 3: This Shakira song from Zouotopia it still gives me nightmares.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh no, it was so Disney Week because like
Speaker 2: they do a big you know, Disney whatever crossover or
Speaker 2: did when it was on is it's still on it,
Speaker 2: It's still on ABC. Yeah. So yeah, they do like
Speaker 2: a big Disney crossover week or whatever, and they give
Speaker 2: you Disney songs to do stuff to. And that fricking
Speaker 2: Zutopia song.
Speaker 1: That Oh that was the week.
Speaker 2: I think it was week three or four, And that
Speaker 2: was the week that my brain uh less, I had
Speaker 2: my melt down.
Speaker 3: I could for whatever reason that dance.
Speaker 1: It was that week I was.
Speaker 3: Broke you no, we're not, No, we're not.
Speaker 2: And so I got out there and in the middle
Speaker 2: of the dance, at one moment, it was like my
Speaker 2: entire mind just went.
Speaker 3: Wow, blank blank, And.
Speaker 1: I will never forget ko sees the terror in my eyes.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I forgot and he's like, just
Speaker 2: keep going, just keep going, just give it thing okay,
Speaker 2: and turn. I turned and then we're like communicating the
Speaker 2: whole time and he's just telling me step by set
Speaker 2: because I it was it was like someone snatched.
Speaker 1: My brain out of my body. Can you hear him?
Speaker 1: Even with the loud music? Can you hear your broth
Speaker 1: when you're right here? You can he yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're like in each other's here. The only
Speaker 2: thing you can really hear is them, Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's you.
Speaker 2: Come to rely on them very yeah, because you're like,
Speaker 2: if all, if I fail, you're the backup engine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you have to. You're the copalt here.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to throw me around and jar something
Speaker 2: loose till I remember where my feet are supposed to be. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I and I remember I got I think that
Speaker 2: was one of our lower ones.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 2: And of course, when you get a low score on
Speaker 2: something that you're already kissed about, you know what I mean, You're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, damn, I know, I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I know, we get it, we get
Speaker 1: we can just speak through it. Just you know, just
Speaker 1: just I'm just gonna go backstage.
Speaker 3: That was kind of how that one fell. I was like,
Speaker 3: I know, you don't need to rub it in that
Speaker 3: it sucked and I forgot, you know.
Speaker 2: But that was the week that was like the mid
Speaker 2: because I did I made it to week eight, so
Speaker 2: that was it was like week three ish for was
Speaker 2: the midpoint where my body and brain went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you doing? What are you doing ma'am,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you four weeks of this.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know what to take in any
Speaker 3: more information.
Speaker 1: We'd Would you do it again if you were given
Speaker 1: the chance at an All Star season? Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an idiot. Well you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: I'm a glutton for punishment. I am.
Speaker 3: I'm a glutton for punishment. And you know I did so.
Speaker 2: I've done three different like reality show competition ones like that,
Speaker 2: and it was because they were all three things that
Speaker 2: I really wanted to learn how to do ballroom dance yep,
Speaker 2: cook yeah, and push myself physically to the limit like
Speaker 2: on a survival sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did that, but.
Speaker 2: I would definitely go back and dance again. It would
Speaker 2: be interesting to see. I mean, I I feel like
Speaker 2: I would do Okay, now that it's been long enough
Speaker 2: from my injury, like that doesn't really interfere anymore. But
Speaker 2: for a long time it was, you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been able to dance in heels or do anything
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: That was from the the B injury. From the B.
Speaker 3: Yeah, from the the B injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was the It was the small to
Speaker 1: the fence and the ex which, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, Zoe and her dad because they were it was
Speaker 2: Zoe's soccer tournament that we were at when this all happened.
Speaker 2: Zoe's dad and her went and retrieved the little toy
Speaker 2: and put it in a shadow box, oh, framed, and
Speaker 2: that was like Christmas present, and it's sitting upstairs on
Speaker 2: my Yeah, oh, to remind you if you remind me.
Speaker 2: But also don't remember the broken ankle, you know what
Speaker 2: it was? Uh, that broken ankle led to a lot
Speaker 2: of reevaluation of a.
Speaker 3: Lot of things.
Speaker 2: So if anything, I look at that little thing as
Speaker 2: like remember to be still before life forces you to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, good lesson to take from that.
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't learned it.
Speaker 2: It's probably still you know, but I look at it
Speaker 2: and I think about.
Speaker 1: It, right, you think about it, I should do that
Speaker 1: memory memory there. Do people still talk to you about
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars everywhere you go when the season
Speaker 1: is on? Oh yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2: Again we're like, I mean I get a lot of
Speaker 2: people like you and Keio should have gone further, you know,
Speaker 2: And yeah, there were we had a lot of really
Speaker 2: great support on our season and a lot of really
Speaker 2: great fans. And you know, at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like there's how well you do, which is its own thing,
Speaker 2: and then there's the popularity contest of it, all right,
Speaker 2: and that you can't account for.
Speaker 1: If if it's a sports person that has.
Speaker 2: A bazillion fans, they're gonna get a lot of you know.
Speaker 2: So there's part of it that you're like, I can't
Speaker 2: take that. This isn't personal, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like it exactly. There's also the aspect of people
Speaker 1: who were thinking like, oh, that dance was so good,
Speaker 1: I bet they don't need the votes, like people thinking like, right,
Speaker 1: they're safe, they're safe. I'm going to put my vote
Speaker 1: over here. So yeah, there's so many things you can't
Speaker 1: account for. Also, you know, they don't tell you what
Speaker 1: the math is they don't tell you like it's here's
Speaker 1: how much of it accounts for the judges, and here's
Speaker 1: how much are the fans. It's based on the week.
Speaker 3: Before your elimination, right right, So so you're not so
Speaker 3: like I.
Speaker 2: Knew I didn't get eliminated for the perfect score for
Speaker 2: the job, exactly.
Speaker 3: I got eliminated for the week before, which I was like,
Speaker 3: oh I could have done that, you know. But that's
Speaker 3: the thing is you're you're like, oh, I'm gonna get eliminated.
Speaker 1: But I had my best night and I just did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just told me like they're a strading part, but
Speaker 2: also kind of the part where I was like, Okay, good,
Speaker 2: I got my perfect score and.
Speaker 1: Now I can leave exactly, thank you. I am going
Speaker 1: out on a high.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that honestly we did. We went out on
Speaker 2: such a high with that dance. And we had so
Speaker 2: many we had like people's you know, in like the
Speaker 2: little choir that we had all the dancers with us,
Speaker 2: So it was a big number and it was high
Speaker 2: energy and just it was so much fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got to wear tennis shoes.
Speaker 1: I think that's why I.
Speaker 3: Did so well, because I didn't have to dance.
Speaker 1: In those stupid heels.
Speaker 2: I had plant refeshion, I had plantifetchitis. By the end
Speaker 2: I had, my feet were a nightmare. Oh gosh, by
Speaker 2: from all the dancing and heels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how are your feet now? Uh?
Speaker 2: Still a nightmare. I've had a bunyan ectomy on my
Speaker 2: right foot. I've had yeah's, you know. Take care of
Speaker 2: your little tootsies.
Speaker 3: I will tell you, voltairean.
Speaker 1: Gel yeah, buy it now, buy it nowel it is.
Speaker 2: It's like an anti inflammatory gel. It used to be
Speaker 2: prescription only. Now you can get it over the counter
Speaker 2: at a IT. I would rub that on the bottom
Speaker 2: of my feet to help the inflammation from my ankles
Speaker 2: and my feet because you're dancing, as you know, in
Speaker 2: two to three inch.
Speaker 1: Heels, five hours a day, six days a week.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it becomes a lot.
Speaker 2: O comes a lot on your feet. Okay, Voltaire, I
Speaker 2: will I'm I'm telling you, I yeah, I should have
Speaker 2: been sponsored by them when I was.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm just putting it my whole body, my
Speaker 1: whole body everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I get another? You will also love the
Speaker 2: spray tanning.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: Every week you get SPRAYTND. But let me tell you
Speaker 2: there's some interesting things that happen. One is, uh, your
Speaker 2: body really only holds onto so much spray tan, so
Speaker 2: by like week three, it's your gross and they will
Speaker 2: tell you go to the Korean spa, go get everything
Speaker 2: scrubbed off of you and start over. And you literally like,
Speaker 2: by week three you gotta just We're like, I need
Speaker 2: a whole new layer of skin. And with all the
Speaker 2: physical therapy because you're constantly seeing the physical therapists for like,
Speaker 2: oh my shoulder hurts, my me this, so you're getting.
Speaker 1: Taped up with all this physiotape.
Speaker 2: Well, the physiotape is sort of that weird like wavy
Speaker 2: thing and you put it on your shoulder or on
Speaker 2: your back or wherever. Then when you take it off,
Speaker 2: some of that spray hand and now you have all
Speaker 2: of these strange patterns all over your body that you're.
Speaker 3: Just gonna spray over again. Yeah. Like, and you are
Speaker 3: never your hair, girl, I don't know how, oh no,
Speaker 3: what what your hair?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that I my one of my best friends,
Speaker 3: Brooke that you met in San.
Speaker 1: Francisco for the live show. Brooke came to the show.
Speaker 2: One night and he was staying with me, and of
Speaker 2: course I get home and I'm having.
Speaker 1: To take my hair out.
Speaker 2: There were over eighty bobby pins.
Speaker 1: On my Oh my gosh, because to mention it, not
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: Anything of the extensions. So I had all kinds of extensions.
Speaker 2: Plus for the last group number we did the Beyonce
Speaker 2: Medley thing, I had a half leg clipped to my hair,
Speaker 2: plus extensions in the front.
Speaker 3: Like my head.
Speaker 2: Not only did the does a dress weigh twelve pounds?
Speaker 2: You don't have your hair done and all everywhere until
Speaker 2: dress rehearsal right, So now all of a sudden, you're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, my head, my head weighs as a
Speaker 2: ton because my hair's piled up and you're sprayed, like
Speaker 2: I mean, there is nothing moving.
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying that because you got hair.
Speaker 2: Me and my three strands of hair, it was heavy
Speaker 2: because they had to attach a bunch of stuff. It
Speaker 2: might be okay for you because there's no room to
Speaker 2: attach any more hair to your head, but for those
Speaker 2: of us who are follically challenged, it was a lot
Speaker 2: of extensions.
Speaker 1: This is good for me to know because I hadn't
Speaker 1: even thought about, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Your hair will be so dried and crispy and fried
Speaker 2: from the gel and the heat styling and the hair
Speaker 2: spray and the bobby pins.
Speaker 3: And the yeah it's yeah, your skin and your hair.
Speaker 2: Basically the outer shell of you when you're done is
Speaker 2: just you're just gonna want to just scrub it all off,
Speaker 2: just in an air fryer.
Speaker 3: Internet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just crisp yourself, peel it off, start over.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, this was all very good advice. But as
Speaker 1: my last question for you, if you could just give
Speaker 1: me like one piece of advice as I prep for
Speaker 1: episode one, what do you think is the most important
Speaker 1: thing specifically for week one?
Speaker 2: I would say the most important thing is oh god,
Speaker 2: that now to see I've had like three ideas. But
Speaker 2: I would say have fun, okay, and connect to the audience.
Speaker 1: Both in the room and at.
Speaker 2: Home, okay, because that those are the people that like,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You have to give them
Speaker 2: an interesting story, give them, you know, you got to
Speaker 2: give some reality TV.
Speaker 3: Moments that they love, because that's you know, the show.
Speaker 1: But have fun.
Speaker 2: And the more you're having fun, the more the audience
Speaker 2: at home sees it, more, the judges see it, and
Speaker 2: also the less you beat yourself up right right, which
Speaker 2: is and I know you and you're like, it can
Speaker 2: be you can be like I'm an idiot, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: could I screw that up?
Speaker 1: You stupid? Just have fun, And that is the hardest part,
Speaker 1: is overcoming that when that happens, when you, like you
Speaker 1: said in your example where you were like that Disney
Speaker 1: week and you kept wanting to turn it right once,
Speaker 1: I'm upset with myself and I'm and I'm so else
Speaker 1: talking in such a negative way to get it, forget it.
Speaker 1: I'm never I can't I can't learn anything. I can't
Speaker 1: pay attention to anything. Things I knew for sure I
Speaker 1: had locked in a second ago. Now I no longer have.
Speaker 2: Well, you will probably also have a tantrum, but I
Speaker 2: suggest just check the door handle first.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So it really.
Speaker 3: Ruins the mood when you're like, I'm pissed, door handled,
Speaker 3: door handled?
Speaker 1: Right, I can't get out of their Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, have fun because it is really fun, Okay,
Speaker 2: and it's unlike anything you've ever done in your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Okay, good, I'm still very excited. I can't
Speaker 1: believe how nervous I already am leading into week one.
Speaker 1: But it does make me feel a little better knowing
Speaker 1: that even you, who it was such a good dancer,
Speaker 1: is such a good dancer that you were that nervous,
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, maybe I'm just a dummy for taking
Speaker 1: this on knowing I have no dance experience, but yeah,
Speaker 1: even though a dance experience, i'd be this nervous.
Speaker 3: But people your topanga girl.
Speaker 1: People love you. Scott, You're gonna you're you, You and
Speaker 1: your hair will go far. I just want me and
Speaker 1: my little Crispy here to go far.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, that's it, you and your nine thousand
Speaker 2: Bobby pins.
Speaker 1: But no, it really is.
Speaker 2: It's fun, but it is I think more so. It's
Speaker 2: not even the dance necessarily. I mean, that's one thing,
Speaker 2: but it's the live show of it all. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean watching what happens in between commercial breaks or what's
Speaker 2: going on over here as they're hosting, and there's a
Speaker 2: set being built and there's like things flying in and
Speaker 2: it's kind of incredible to watch.
Speaker 1: And be a part of. Like I love live theater.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a fun you know, So in that regard,
Speaker 2: it is it's really exciting because you're like, we're we're
Speaker 2: on the razor's edge of like if something goes wrong,
Speaker 2: what then?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You know? Oh so great, Jody, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for agreeing to be my friend for this hour.
Speaker 1: You're so welcome.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad. I can go back now to not
Speaker 3: talking to you.
Speaker 1: Your number you can block me again. I love you
Speaker 1: so much.
Speaker 2: I love you too.
Speaker 1: I really so appreciate you, and thank you for the advice.
Speaker 1: And will you will you come visit me?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was like not to invite myself,
Speaker 2: but I will watch you.
Speaker 1: I would love to.
Speaker 2: I would love to come sit in the audience and
Speaker 2: support you and cheer and be screaming for your hair
Speaker 2: and for you, but no, mostly my hair, but mostly
Speaker 2: your hair.
Speaker 3: No, I would absolutely be honored to come support you.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much. And I will bring I will.
Speaker 2: Bring all of the kushlings I can find. Bring all
Speaker 2: the cush lings and instead of roses, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: kushlings at you when you do it, when you when
Speaker 2: you have a great number.
Speaker 1: Perfect yeah, yeah, fact, just aim low. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get hit in the face with a cushlin.
Speaker 2: No, no, you'll have like four sets of lashes on.
Speaker 2: We don't want to do that now, you'll just kind
Speaker 2: of at the you know, at.
Speaker 1: The floor, per your feet, at my feet. I love it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jodi. Always always a pleasure to
Speaker 1: see you. Thank you so good to see you too, Danielle.
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