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Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spinoff show Popping Off,

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Speaker 1: where we are digging deep on this season of Vanner

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules. Welcome to another episode of Popping Off with myself,

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Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the finale of Vanner Pump

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Speaker 1: Rules and we'll talk about the valley. But before, of course,

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Speaker 1: we have had lines, okay, which the first one is

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Speaker 1: we get a first look at the three part vander

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Speaker 1: Pump Rules Reunion Bravo video. It's revealed that the cast

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Speaker 1: will be watching the season finale together so we can

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Speaker 1: get their real time reactions to the episode. From the

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Speaker 1: sneak peek, it's clear that there will be a lot

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Speaker 1: of tears, people will feel betrayed, and Lisa tells someone

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's okay to walk away.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I watched the So I watched the trailer

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Speaker 2: for the reunion. So they so none of them watched

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Speaker 2: the finale episode going into the reunion. It wasn't just

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Speaker 2: like a clip that they showed or they showed the

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Speaker 2: entire finale episode.

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Speaker 1: My guess is they're showing bits and pieces of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I think what we've seen throughout Watch What Happens

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Speaker 1: Live this year is a lot of these people they're

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Speaker 1: not watching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't, like I don't watch ocy, so

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Speaker 2: I got it.

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Speaker 1: But I mean we heard Arianna say that she hadn't

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Speaker 1: had time to watch. Even last night on Watch What

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Speaker 1: Happens Live, it was Jax doesn't watch. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Andy's like, no, no, we need everybody

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, here's your assignment. We're gonna we're gonna take

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Speaker 2: We're gonna put you all together, and you're all gonna

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Speaker 2: sit here and you're gonna watch it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna watch it because it's the only way we

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Speaker 1: can trust that you're all going to see this go down.

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Speaker 2: So I would think that they probably just showed that

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Speaker 2: maybe the last five minutes or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the last ten minutes, I would say, like the

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Speaker 1: last ten minutes kind of where it starts. But even

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Speaker 1: before we get to that, Katie went on Off the

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Speaker 1: Vine podcast and had this to say about vander Pump

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Speaker 1: Rules season. She says, you know, she doesn't know what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen with vander Pump Rules.

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Speaker 2: She calls the cast.

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Speaker 1: Broken and says they don't know if they're getting picked

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Speaker 1: up for another season until it's public news. She's unsure

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Speaker 1: if they're done or not.

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Speaker 2: What's your what's your gut thought on that?

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Speaker 1: Well? I at first my true thought was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this felt like when they showed all like their like

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Speaker 1: first season confessionals and like how they've changed throughout the

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Speaker 1: years or not changed or whatever it may be. It

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Speaker 1: felt very much like an end. So I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that means it's an end to Vanner Pump Rules

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be moving some of the van

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Speaker 1: pub Rules people to the Valley, or if it means

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Speaker 1: they're gonna just do a big cast shake up because

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Speaker 1: some of these people, and I'm not saying there's some

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Speaker 1: but some it really makes these people would make sense

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Speaker 1: on the Valley at this point. Yeah, but they don't

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Speaker 1: make sense to what the original show was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean watching it, I felt like

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just a season finale, but a series finale. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But then I thought maybe it was edited that way.

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Speaker 2: So so it's open to interpretation, and then if it

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Speaker 2: it was a good ending for the series in total. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I do feel like the

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Speaker 2: Valley is the next extension and it makes sense. I mean,

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Speaker 2: bar anymore, They're they're not on the same page anymore.

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Speaker 2: They're not in the same place in their life. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, I do think it makes sense that like

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Speaker 1: Even if the Toms went over to the Valley, that

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Speaker 1: all of that kind of can mesh together. My question though,

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Speaker 1: Because clearly what I got from the end of that

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Speaker 1: healthy boundaries. I think they're What it's actually showing is

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Speaker 1: and some of us aren't. And that kind of divide

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Speaker 1: I mean, Brittany says to Lala on the after show,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's something where the majority of them can transition.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Lala works on the valley too. You're

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Speaker 2: stepped over into the valley where we're talking more about couples, families,

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Speaker 1: But then what does that say for Katie and Arianev

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Speaker 1: Do they have their own just the two of them

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Speaker 1: type show? But I think watching them clearly they have

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Speaker 2: I agree because I feel like in the end, in

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Speaker 2: feel like Arianna's in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not necessary. Here's the thing, because I'm

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Speaker 1: watching it from both sides, and I guess we can

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Speaker 1: get into it more when we start to recap the episode,

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Speaker 1: but watching it from both sides, I see Arianna wanting

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Speaker 1: to put her boundaries down. Also see where you know

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Speaker 1: some of the people are like, this is crazy, you know,

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Speaker 1: like what happened to Like we're all having to still

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Speaker 1: but like you still signed up and you're still getting

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Speaker 1: the same paycheck, right, we got to do this, So

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting question, and I mean you can actually

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Speaker 2: I feel like that even segus over into other housewife shows,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. Where do you draw the line with boundaries

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Speaker 2: when you're on a reality show? Like can you have boundaries?

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Speaker 2: Are you allowed to put boundaries in place? Are you

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Speaker 2: allowed to say, you know, I'm still going to take

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Speaker 2: a paycheck, but I'm not going to film with that person.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be around that person. Like, well,

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Speaker 2: is that fair?

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Speaker 1: Well, let me put it to you this way. You

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Speaker 2: I probably can't go out.

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Speaker 1: I can't, but I'm going to say if I was

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Speaker 1: have said to the network or the production company, if

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Speaker 1: interested in doing this show. However, you then have to

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Speaker 1: be okay with getting the answer you may not want

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Speaker 1: don't think if you're going to remain on a show,

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Speaker 1: you get the option of who you're going to film

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Speaker 1: with or who you're not. I mean, even we're watching

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Speaker 1: Melissa Gorga and Teresa, they're not having scenes together, but

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Speaker 1: and it's going to lead to more issues because of that.

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Speaker 1: But I think what people saw at the beginning was

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Speaker 1: Arianna pretty much saying no, like there should be no friendship,

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Speaker 1: there should be nothing, there should be no crossover. But

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Speaker 1: then both people were hired on the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what do you do? You do your job.

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Speaker 1: You either do your job or you walk away, and

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Speaker 1: not walk away at the end of the season, you quit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with that, so I mean, once.

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Speaker 1: We read through exactly what they said, we can kind

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Speaker 1: Hello Drama. Instagram posts that Zach Wickham's interview When Reality

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Speaker 1: Hits reveals new info. Zach tells Brittany that producers were

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Speaker 1: interviewing the Valley cast for two years before started filming.

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Speaker 1: He did a lot of interviews with Kristin because at

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Speaker 1: the time he was prepared to donate his sperm to Kristen.

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Speaker 2: Did she think about that hairline when she asked for that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean we even went back to see what

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Speaker 1: his hairline looked as a teenager. It's always been the same.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that happened.

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Speaker 1: What about Jack's removing Lori k Did you see this? Oh?

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Speaker 2: He removed her from his Instagram bio. Yeah. At the

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Speaker 2: Bravo investigator says the audio in this post is from

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Speaker 2: an interview Laurie did on the When Reality Hits podcast

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Speaker 2: on July fifth, twenty twenty three. In this episode, Brittany

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Speaker 2: says she has access to both Jack's and Britney's Instagram accounts.

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Speaker 2: You know, I did see Jackson watch What Happens Live

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Speaker 2: and when Andy asks him as there been in any infidelity,

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Speaker 2: Do you believe him absolutely not? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I found that interview. I wanted them to kind of

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Speaker 1: You're either going to be a fucking asshole and you're

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Speaker 1: But I think they both tried to do both, and

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Speaker 1: to me, that's a problem. Yeah, you can't. You're either

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Speaker 1: the show, that interaction was also very strange to me.

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Speaker 2: So do you think they're broken up. They've unfollowed each other,

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Speaker 1: Some blogger posted that they unfollowed each other and that

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Speaker 1: Billy Lee unfollowed them, and blah blah blah, And all

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Speaker 1: I can think is like, who did this? Is this

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Speaker 1: something Jack said? Did they go somewhere afterwards? Did Jack's

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Speaker 1: know because now she is private Victoria is, so I

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Speaker 1: can't see who she follows. So have bloggers ever gotten

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Have bloggers also gotten it right? Yes, but we do not.

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Speaker 1: We cannot give a definitive answer on this question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but she did seem aw not as awkward as Joe,

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Speaker 1: but she seemed quite awkward in that audet.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the epenome of awkwardness. This is Joe. Joe's

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know. Maybe Jack's was not

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Speaker 1: then or what about this? What about I was like,

434
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I respect the questions though I'm a

435
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: big question ask her.

436
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: So I respect that Lala, thank you for asking all

437
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: the questions that I would ask.

438
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: But did you notice that we didn't really get any answers.

439
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, I don't know if it was

440
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: the editing or what, but I feel like it showed

441
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: a lot of Lala asking the questions and then Dan's

442
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: answers were very yes, no, maybe yes, Like I don't

443
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't feel like I didn't learn a bunch about that.

444
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: I didn't either, But I don't know if he elaborated more,

445
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: but they edited to just make it short answers. I

446
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: don't know, but I didn't feel like there was any

447
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: emotion in any of his responses. I felt like he

448
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: just felt like he was going through the motions to

449
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: get through this, like yeah, when are we done with this?

450
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: Like okay, I showed up. Let's move it or lose it.

451
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: Right then we're back at the hotel and I had

452
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: a jump scare because I did not know that Joe

453
00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 1: was going.

454
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: To be there. I didn't either. I was like, where

455
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: did she come from? Like did she just she just

456
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: popped in?

457
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: And is she in shorts room? Or is like and

458
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: then when watching them iron and like awkwardly was that flirting?

459
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: I I don't know what Joe. I don't a lot

460
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: of her actions I feel like are just a little off.

461
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: But then he's like, Joseph make up, and then he's

462
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: like it's like when a little kid like grabs their

463
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: mommy's makeup and puts lipstick on, And all I can

464
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: think is, like, Joseph, he's not your person. If he's

465
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you like that, it's just and now

466
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: you're this is what is making me feel like Schwartz

467
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: is being a touch of like a vagin, Like if.

468
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 2: You're not inder her, don't invite her to this thing.

469
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: You know she's gonna cry and get upset when the

470
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: girls treat or shitty.

471
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: You're not putting her in a situation to shine.

472
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: You're also now instead of telling her she looks beautiful

473
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: and wow, like you made such an effort, your makeup

474
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: looks great, You've now made her feel awkward because of it,

475
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: Like why why is she here? Do you think he

476
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: invited her to come?

477
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: Or was it it's because it's a finale so production

478
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 2: was like, hey, we got to get you in there

479
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: a little bit at the end to wrap up this.

480
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: Still, you have to remember this is out of Los Angeles,

481
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Like I need to know if she paid her own

482
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: way to get there, or if production was like, you

483
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: know what, No, we're going to pay her a day

484
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: rate and we're going to fly her there and we're

485
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: gonna get her glam because I don't think so.

486
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: See, my guess would be they flew her there, they

487
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: paid her a day rate, and they wanted her there

488
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 2: and just a little bit at the end, just to

489
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: wrap up that storyline, because that's what they want to

490
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,239
Speaker 2: do in a finale. If Joe's not there, then it's like, well,

491
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 2: what happened to Joe? What's going on? So I feel

492
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: like they just needed her to get that, just that

493
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: little bit of story. But it's like she popped in,

494
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: like she just beamed there. Yeah, okay, we're back at

495
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: the hotel. Shorts visit Sandoval in his room next and

496
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: gives a quick recap of the day, adding that he

497
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 2: really likes Dan. Lisa facetimes Shena as she's getting ready

498
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: for tonight, and Sena admits that she still loves Sandoval.

499
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: La La tells Katie that Sheena is under a lot

500
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: of pressure. She needs to know Arianna will still be

501
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: her friend if she remains friends with Sandoval too. Katie

502
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: doesn't think Sheena deserves to be the exception to Arianna's rule,

503
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: Sandoval wants the tention to dissipate, so he's willing to

504
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: apologize to Ariana. So that's where we're at.

505
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: Sandival essentially was like, I know this is a finale,

506
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: so I'm going to create my perfect finale moment, like

507
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: I am going for it. Yeah.

508
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 2: That was so awkward though. I was like, don't do it,

509
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: don't do it. Did you want it to? Like did

510
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: weren't you just like what I was watching it? I

511
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: was like stop, no, no, no, don't do it, no

512
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: walk away.

513
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: But also did you see how messy his hotel room was?

514
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it was gross.

515
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: So much food everywhere and like so much junk.

516
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: See. And we've been blaming Ariana this whole time, calling

517
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: her a hoarder, and maybe maybe it's her and Tom,

518
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: Like maybe that's why the house is always the disaster.

519
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: It's both of them.

520
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I need to know did they always live

521
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: in this kind of chaos or is this just, like

522
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, like a post breakup chaos post breakup,

523
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: like you can't even call downstairs at the hotel and

524
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: ask them to pick up your breakfast, lunch, dinner for

525
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: the last three days.

526
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

527
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Then everyone starts to arrive to Kyle Chan's party. Sand

528
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: of all paid for the sound engineer for his band

529
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: to come up here and help with sheena set. These

530
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: gestures mean a lot to her. Sheena is nervous for

531
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: her performance. She's never done something like this. We get

532
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: a flashback to twenty thirteen of her singing on top

533
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: of a bar. At this point, this may they may

534
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: have just well made an announcement that this show is

535
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: the reboot all around Kyle Chan like this to the

536
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Chan Show.

537
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: It's the Kyle Chan Show. Yes, I actually love Sheena's

538
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: song though, no love it. It's a banger man. I

539
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I'm going to download this. This is good.

540
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: We should be a real to it. Don't act like

541
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 2: you know how to download music, You're so full of shit.

542
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't. But what I meant by download is I'm

543
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 2: going to try to find it on Instagram somewhere in

544
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: a reel somewhere.

545
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Then James brings Ali outside to watch the sunset. He

546
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: clarifies that Ali will always be his priority. She says

547
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: she's not ready for marriage yet, but when she is,

548
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: she wants it with James James gets emotional because his

549
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: life hasn't gone to plan, but he wouldn't change anything.

550
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: This was very like Paige and Craig from Summerhouse, like

551
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: they just had this moment and it really shows the difference,

552
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: and you know, just different mindsets, like listen, I love you.

553
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: The plan is right now that yeah, you're going to

554
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: be the one. But Ali is significantly younger than j James.

555
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think, I mean, even though she's younger, she

556
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: seems very mature though. I mean for her to say

557
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to jump into anything, I don't want to,

558
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, talk about marriage right now. I don't know

559
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: about kids right now. I feel like that's actually a

560
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: mature move on her part.

561
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: It is a very mature move because they have had

562
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: a surprisingly perfect edit this season. So I always worry

563
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: that whenever a couple has a perfect edit that it's

564
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna get trickier. They normally don't just want to show

565
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: bliss all of the time. Exactly like her, even saying

566
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: she missed hippie all this stuff. I was like, Okay,

567
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: well guess what, We're back to Joe.

568
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: We're back to Joe.

569
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Joe and her confessional, she clearly states she would have

570
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: liked her in Shorts to become a couple. Joe follows

571
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Ali and Shortz into the lions Den, and maybe she

572
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: should have thought out this apology first, Like she gives

573
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: a half apology to Katie, who then essentially Katie's like,

574
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: that's you're weird. You're maybe gonna apologize, like you're just weird,

575
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: And then things are starting to heat up and you

576
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: can see like the death in Katie's eyes, Like and

577
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: Joe's apologies she checked to Katie right after the divorce

578
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: meant nothing because she moved in with Shorts right after.

579
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I enjoyed Katie in this moment, because like,

580
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: what does Katie owe Joe?

581
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: What when Joe says, do you do you think you

582
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: should apologize now? Or whatever however she said it? What

583
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: apology was she looking for from Katie? Did she tweet

584
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: something about her calling her a crackhead?

585
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Oh?

586
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Should you apologize for calling someone a crackhead?

587
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're not a crackhead, then I think

588
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear that this is a joke, Like she

589
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: doesn't clearly thinks that she's actually a crackhead. But I

590
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: don't the fact that she thought she was gonna walk

591
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: over there not apologize and get an apology is obscene.

592
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: Like if she.

593
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: Could have just walked over there and been like, hey,

594
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: I know, it's awkward that i'm here, and I'm really

595
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: sorry for the way I handle things. I probably should

596
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: have never even messaged you like it just it was

597
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: messy and gross and like I'm sorry.

598
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think that's where she went wrong. I

599
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: don't think her relationship with Shorts she has to apologize

600
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: for or anything like that, but I do think the

601
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: apology is messy because of the message. She's Syndicateie trying

602
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: to convey that she was somehow a girl's girl and

603
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: that she had her interests at heart. Meanwhile, she's evolved

604
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: with Shorts and living with him, et cetera. She should

605
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: have just left the message out. Yeah, you can't be

606
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: with someone's ex and try to be friendly with the

607
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: ex wife. It doesn't work, like pick aside and just

608
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: go that way.

609
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: But also, this is where I'm a little bit confused

610
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: in regards to Schwartz, because he's down just gotten in

611
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: pretty good with Arianna and Katie and now he wants

612
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: to throw this into the mix. But in the worst

613
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: possible way.

614
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: Why you mean him just kind of walking Joe over

615
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: there like here we go, yeah.

616
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: Like and half apologize and don't even like he's not

617
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: like he was standing up for her even making it

618
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: better or just like, hey, guys, Joe's part of this

619
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: friend group, liked.

620
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted Katie in that moment to tell

621
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 2: Joe that Schwortz asked her to have like a one

622
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: night stamp with her him.

623
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a missed opportunity, right, the real missed opportunity.

624
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I I mean, she was just going at

625
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: her heart, so why not just like just get in

626
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: there and just finish it. Then, h Sena's dress breaks,

627
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: du dah.

628
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: Like Sena's dress breaks, which I thought was gonna be

629
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: a pretty big deal until I realized that's not the

630
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: dress she was gonna wear on stage. So that was

631
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: the pre dress, like she could have easily just you know,

632
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: thrown on the other dressed a little early.

633
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: But then Brock is running around trying to find.

634
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: Her for a coat. But then did you this part

635
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: made me? I saw this actually on somebody else's Instagram,

636
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: and I had already thought it, and then I saw

637
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: it on a daily dose of Donna's Instagram. But it's

638
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: she zooms and on Brock's dance moves when he's just

639
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: like going at it, like when Sheen's looking for him

640
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: and he is like in the gold suit and.

641
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then.

642
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: I was really hoping that wasn't Brock, like I was

643
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: hoping I was the friend of like the drunk guy

644
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: who kept trying to dance with Laala in them.

645
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Like what what are you doing?

646
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Oh my gosh. Our producer just

647
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: said I find Brock very attractive.

648
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: I do too. I agree, I know, but I don't

649
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: like I like.

650
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: No, no, Like I had a real issue with like

651
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: Jackx's pants last night, Like I don't like when like

652
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: guys were tight pants like that. It's it's a it's

653
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: a no for me.

654
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: And wait, so you did not like Brock's gold suit?

655
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: No, I would like you can see the guy's ankles, no, Like,

656
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: I really, I don't want to see the gold pants.

657
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the ankles. I don't want

658
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: to see the bulge.

659
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: You don't want to see the bolts. So maybe you

660
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: just don't like brock style. I think so, I I.

661
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Think I don't love his style or his like heeled boots.

662
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: I think Brock and just like a head confessional is

663
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: like can be funny and charming and but like he's

664
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: he's not my like type. I've never been with a

665
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: Brock type. You're not a cheat a speedo type. I'm

666
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: definitely not a cheat a speedo type.

667
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: Can you imagine Shane and a cheet of spido?

668
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, Edwin made me tell him last night

669
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: when we were watching Watch What Happens Live because I

670
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: was making him watch with me. He was like, so,

671
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: who's hotter to you? Jack's or Sandoval? And I was like,

672
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: hotter in what way? And He's like hotter, like you'd

673
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: have to hook up with one of them? And I

674
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: was like, is this a lose lose answer. He's like, no,

675
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: you just have to answer it. And I had to

676
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: say Sandoval.

677
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 2: I would say Sandoval too, Yeah, okay, I mean if

678
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: I had to pick yeah, right, Like JACKX just seems

679
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: like he always seems we masty, Like he always seems sweaty.

680
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he always seems sweaty and stressed and like,

681
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: but I'm so confused what he stressed about. But then

682
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: we get to Sena crying and her confessional again saying

683
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: things with Sandoval aren't so black and white. Then Sandoval

684
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: introducing himself to Dan. This was pretty amazing because they

685
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: had already like the hands were already like Arianna and

686
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: Dan were I guess sharing a group text like they

687
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: were together texting.

688
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: So Dan wasn't on a to lift his.

689
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: Hand up shake his hand, but they had already said

690
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: in the introduction like that. He would not shake his hand,

691
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: but I thought he was plenty pleasant enough. He was.

692
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know if there had to

693
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: be an introduction, but I feel like Tom was going

694
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: out of his way to try to, you know, make

695
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: amends or at least look like a good guy in

696
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: the finale, So he goes up and introduces himself. But

697
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: I mean Dan handled it well. He wasn't. I mean,

698
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a lot of emotion anyway. We saw

699
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: him at the at lunch. He didn't answering questions from

700
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: La Law. He didn't have much emotion, so you know,

701
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: I think he was civil.

702
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: Well, I learned about a term. It's called a gray rock,

703
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: and a gray rock is how you're supposed to behave

704
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with narcissists, and I think Dan has

705
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: studied this method and his goal was I'm going to

706
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: be a gray Rock this entire episode.

707
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: So do you think Dan is the one that taught

708
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: Arianna about the gray Rock? Possibly because she doesn't mention

709
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: it in her confessionals.

710
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think Dan, whether she taught him or

711
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: he taught her. I think they are going like there

712
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: was never going to be a moment like we saw

713
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: the one time Ariana kind of lost it at the

714
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: beach that one day I kind of talk to him,

715
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: But other than that, she hasn't okay.

716
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question, though, if you're

717
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: on a reality TV show, is going into like a

718
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: gray Rock mentality a good idea?

719
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: No, not unless one of the person is people are

720
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: going to get booted. But most of the time what

721
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: happens is there will be a choice that will be made.

722
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: So let's say I think they wanted one year to

723
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: play this to play out going into next season. If

724
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: next season is going to happen, I do think if

725
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: it's coming back with this cast, for the most part,

726
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: it will be Ariana or Tom. I do not think

727
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: it'll be both of them because I don't think there's

728
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: one person watching this show that cares about those two

729
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: having a reconciliation. No, I an, I don't care. I

730
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: don't care.

731
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Which one would you pick? If you're a producer, which

732
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: one would you go with?

733
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: I think Arianna has more ability to get other types

734
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: of shows, especially if she's a good actress and on Chicago, like,

735
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: I think she has a really the opportunity for her

736
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: to really grow as a human being, is there she

737
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: had like when this all happened, especially because they've talked

738
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: about her mental health issues in the past. When this

739
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: all happened, she could have gone into a very dark place,

740
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: kind of disappeared, not you know, and really fallen into

741
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: a deep depression. And instead she turned that negativity into booking,

742
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, every commercial, even bringing her friends

743
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: in on her commercials, promoting Good as Gold, like every

744
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: single one of those things like brought It Together, Chicago,

745
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: you name it. She's capitalizing on what happened and building herself.

746
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: So whether I think I loved her this entire season,

747
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: I didn't because it didn't give us the best TV.

748
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: But I think her future is bigger than the show.

749
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: At this point. Yeah, I would agree with that because

750
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: if I had to pick, if VPR is going to continue,

751
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: and I had to pick one or the other, I

752
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: would pick Tom. I mean, he still has connections with

753
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: people on this cast. He and Sheena seem to be

754
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 2: in a good place. They can go forward. La La

755
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 2: seems to be good with him. Clearly, he and Tom

756
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: are still friends. He and James, I don't know where

757
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: they're at after the reunion, but I mean, at least

758
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: by the finale, they seem to be in a good place,

759
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: so I feel like he can continue on on this

760
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: show with those people. I don't know about Ariana though

761
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: she doesn't seem connected to any of them at this point.

762
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: And then I mean for Katie, because I do think

763
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Katie is that like voice that we need on the show,

764
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: especially now that we see her utilizing her. But I

765
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: don't know that she is doing that show without Ariana,

766
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: and what does that mean about something about her?

767
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they have a spin off with

768
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: the two of them and they're They're Sandwich Shop. Okay,

769
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: this just in.

770
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I've gotten a text back from a from a source

771
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: close to the show, just Teddy Walters, and this is

772
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: what it says. Non primary cast members usually get a

773
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: flat rate for season. No clue how much that is for. Also,

774
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I know that production paid for the rooms, but I

775
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: am not sure about a non primary cast members travel travel.

776
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense, So that makes sense.

777
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: So a Rock or a Joe or whomever else came

778
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: and did whatever. They've got their rooms paid for, they

779
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: got a flat rate for the season, which I doubt

780
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: is exorbitant, and we go on from there.

781
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to guess they paid for her to travel.

782
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: We've gotten conflicting sources from conflicting info from two different sources,

783
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: So this is pretty juicy. I mean, and I kind

784
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: of trust what both sources have alleged, but maybe that

785
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: one of the sources didn't know if this person was

786
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: paid as a non primary cast member. But long story short,

787
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: we've got a couple of sources letting us know most

788
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: likely she didn't get paid to be there.

789
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: It's time for Shena's performance. She performs Apples first, and

790
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: everyone loves it, even Standibal. When she performs Good as Gold,

791
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: everyone goes crazy. Brock even goes on stage and puts

792
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: the guitars on his shoulders. Sena asked the twenty sevens

793
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: if she's in their band, to which they say yes.

794
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: I enjoyed her performance. I thought she was great. I

795
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: thought it was fun.

796
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: I thought it was fun. I thought she was happy.

797
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: I thought the band was excited to have like their

798
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, like this is this could be something big

799
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: for them. And a lot of people watched that that

800
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: show and it was good and it was a banger

801
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: and it was fun and you did legitimately see Tom

802
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: look proud of her. But know who else looked proud

803
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: of her? Ariana? Yeah, like in that moment where we're

804
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: all trying to see Ariana is only caring about herself.

805
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Shed No, that's not how it appeared. Why she was watching,

806
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: She not on stage. It didn't look like she was

807
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: mocking her. She's excited. She grabbed the little too too

808
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: and put it on herself like she was in it.

809
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: So whether they want to say she's not in it

810
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to support people, she was there and she could have

811
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: been at Applebee's earlier.

812
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

813
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: Why what was the Applebee's reference.

814
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because they were building the Applebee's Martini's.

815
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to plug Applebee's like that was

816
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: probably already in the works.

817
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was Chili's.

818
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, it was Chili's.

819
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what's Appleby's pretty much.

820
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, if you had Chilis, I

821
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: love that. I just confused the two is the same. Yeah,

822
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Applebee's Chili's, you know. But then this is where it

823
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: gets dicey. Arianna doesn't even so, so sheena once again

824
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: like she's just now had this great moment. She finds

825
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: out she's in the band of course, yeah, and reality

826
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: television world. Now She's like, now's when I should go

827
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: and fuck everything up and talk to Arianna about some

828
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: of the growth I've seen in Tom, like you know,

829
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: and like, I appreciate what you're trying to do, Sena,

830
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: but this is not the way.

831
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: Quit making it about you. But I do think.

832
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: Arianna in this moment is very clear. She's like, I

833
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: don't want to breathe the same air as him. I'm

834
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: fine if you want to be friends with him. I

835
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: do not need an apology from him. I am done,

836
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: Arianna says, sure she and she will never lose her.

837
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: They kiss and riat her at how much they love

838
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: each other, but then.

839
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: Up king no, no, like and also did you hear

840
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: her go, I guess we can't kiss anymore now that

841
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: Brock said we can't kiss anymore or something.

842
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: I did hear that, and I was like, huh. I

843
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 2: was like, did I catch that? Is he is that

844
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: that's a no? No? Huh?

845
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean if I was, I don't think.

846
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't wan would be cool if I was like kissing.

847
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: You, well, I feel like it's it depends on the

848
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: type of kiss, Like is it just like a quick,

849
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: like funny between girls kiss or are we making out

850
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: with tongue like, I mean, there's a difference.

851
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm not a well, I'm not a hugger or a

852
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: lip kisser to really anyone like i'll kiss on the

853
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: cheek or like other than my husband. Like, I'm not

854
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: one of those people that's like so good to see you.

855
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not.

856
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: It's not so that would be completely out of character

857
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: for me, right, except when you have those awkward times,

858
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, when you like go in and you think

859
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: that somebody's trying to kiss you on this cheek but

860
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: it's only here, and then all of a sudden you're.

861
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, that happens to me a lot, because

862
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: she like all of Shane's family are Persian and they

863
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: do the I never know what to do. I'm always like,

864
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: I don't know where to go. I just put my

865
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: hand down. Nice to meet you.

866
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: But then Ariana walks up to Jeremiah, who's the executive

867
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: producer on the show. I used to work with Jeremiah

868
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: at one of the talent agencies. So every time I

869
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: see him, my laugh and we hear her say it's

870
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: not happening. As he tries convincing her not to do this,

871
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: she tells him fucking walking up on me talking to Shina,

872
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: he didn't give a fuck if I fucking died in

873
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: a ditch or got fucking deadly sdds. The way he

874
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: was fucking around me behind my back, that is non

875
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: informed consent and he does not deserve to speak to me.

876
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: The EP is begging arian And not to end it

877
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: like this, and she tells him it's about a performance

878
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: for the audience. He wants thirty seconds with the audience.

879
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: She calls a lift and leaves the party. Jeremiah, you

880
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: might want to turn your comments off for a while,

881
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: because I know these fans are gonna find you.

882
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: It's gonna give me a lot okay. I feel like

883
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: there's a lot to unpack here. I did you okay.

884
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 2: As a producer, your job is to make the best

885
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: show possible, and a lot of times you need to

886
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: wrap things up in a finale. And I understand that

887
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: you need these conversations. You need this, you need a resolution.

888
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 2: We need to wrap it up. So I don't know

889
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: if someone said to Tom, hey, you need to go

890
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 2: over there to Ariana and try to have a conversation

891
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: with her, that had to have happened. I agree, especially

892
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: because she's talking to Sheena. It was an awkward moment.

893
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't know why he would choose to do it then.

894
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: To me, it feels like someone went up to him

895
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: and said, Okay, the night's almost over, everything's whining down,

896
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 2: Yet you have to do it now. So he does

897
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: the you know, awkward walk up. She loses her mind.

898
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: I guess my question is, in this circumstance, do you

899
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: think she should have just had the conversation because that's

900
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: her job and that's what she's getting paid to do.

901
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: Or is it okay that she left and started yelling

902
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 2: at production saying this isn't gonna happen.

903
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the point, I think if she

904
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: is done with this show, she made her point, I think,

905
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: but where because I can't help but go back and

906
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: forth on things that they also said, because she does that.

907
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: And then Sandoval is fuming once he hears Ariana is

908
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: calling him performative. Santoval tells Billy that she's unwill willing

909
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 1: to film with her act she shouldn't be doing this show.

910
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Sandaval storms up to the rest of the cast, yelling,

911
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm pissed that she's fucking saying that shit, because Ariana

912
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: she doesn't fuck with you guys. She's fucking talking shit

913
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: about all you fuck her. She doesn't show up for shit.

914
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: She's not gonna come to your fucking thing. I am.

915
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: She yells back and tells him that she knows and

916
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: that's why it's been so hard for her. And then

917
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Live, Tom said he was exaggerating

918
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment and didn't have any

919
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: real receipts of Ariana talking shit, but something he did

920
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: say was something she did say. And then he said

921
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: that this is too conflicting the information. She said he

922
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: has never once reached out to me to talk to me.

923
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: Off television, and he is saying, I have tried numerous

924
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: times and she has never been responsive.

925
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, who do you believe in this point? Because I

926
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: watched it too about the same thing.

927
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of believe he probably sent her

928
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: some stupid ass text and she's like, fuck you.

929
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's where I'm at. I feel like

930
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: he probably did reach out, Maybe he did make an effort,

931
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: but the way her mindset is and the way that

932
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: she's acted all season, there's no way that she would

933
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: have accepted anything. So her saying he could have written

934
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: me a letter. He could have written me a six

935
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: page letter, and I would have read it. No, you

936
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't have. You wouldn't have read it. You would have

937
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: ripped that You would have ripped that shit up into

938
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: a million pieces and thrown it all over the floor.

939
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have read it. And good for.

940
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Her if you're not on a reality show, so good

941
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: for her. Like I would love to be able to

942
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 1: have that strength. Unfortunately I'd be the one that would

943
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: like rip it up and then pull it out of

944
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: the tape it back together, have to tape it back

945
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: together and try to decipher what that chicken scratch handwriting.

946
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: He used it from his journal from Rachel. But then

947
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: it kind of keeps going because then Lala's has to says,

948
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, i haven't wanted to break the fourth wall,

949
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: but I'm deciding to do it now. She yells about everything,

950
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: rallying behind Arianna to the point where she thinks she's Beyonce.

951
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: It's bullshit that Arianna can't film with Sandoval, yet she's

952
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: sleeping down the hall from him. She understands he did

953
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: a really shitty thing, but he did not kill someone.

954
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: She reminds everyone that Ariana moved on eight days later.

955
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: Sheina openly agrees with everything Lala saying and Lala's confessional.

956
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: She says she loves filming the show because it's real

957
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: and finds it to be healing. She thinks it's such

958
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: a slap in the face that Ariana left like this,

959
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: because this is what they do and have done for

960
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: most of their lives. On the after show, Arianna said,

961
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: if you think I'm doing a bad job as a

962
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: reality star, I was Reality Star of the Year, so

963
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: maybe I know what I'm doing. But this is what

964
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: I want to talk about.

965
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, All that aside.

966
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: Last season, Lala was adamant that Schwartz couldn't play pickleball

967
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 1: with Randall. She said he had to pick a side.

968
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: Now does that matter that Randall wasn't a cast member?

969
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Is it different because we followed Tom and Arianna for

970
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 1: ten years on the show, or do you think Lala

971
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: is being hypocritical?

972
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: I think there's a difference. I think you can differentiate

973
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: the two. Randall's not a cast member, and she moved

974
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: out of that house, and she moved out of the house,

975
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: she removed herself. She wasn't involved. He's not a cast member.

976
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: He's not getting paid to be on the show. I

977
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: think he won't even be on the show, right, I

978
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 2: think is not even allowed to be on the show.

979
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: It's a completely different set of circumstances.

980
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: But I feel like Lala is going to get a

981
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of shit for this because people can't see that

982
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: breaking the fourth wall aspect.

983
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: But like that, there is a.

984
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: Big part of it, like Randal. Once she left Randal,

985
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: like we saw those videos, like we saw her like

986
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: two best friends going with her getting ocean, she was

987
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: in a hotel, like she was done, completely moved out,

988
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: she was blindsided, she left it. It did not carry

989
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: on into another season of her and Randall fighting and

990
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: trying to get back together, try.

991
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: None of it.

992
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: It was done right, So her boundaries were done off

993
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: the show. If you choose to be paid to be

994
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: on the show, are you required to bend your boundaries?

995
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: I agree? I agree. I mean I kind of when

996
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Lala said all that she said, I agreed with what

997
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: she was saying. I mean, I might get backlash for that,

998
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: but don't. I thought everything she said was profound and

999
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: had a lot of weight to it. Well.

1000
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: I think also the part that they're not all saying,

1001
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: but they are all saying, is they're all fucked. If

1002
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: this show does, it goes away. So they're all doing

1003
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: the most that they can to keep this show going.

1004
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: There's only one person really on this show that is

1005
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: going to at this point really skyrocket away from it,

1006
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: and they're going to be annoyed by that.

1007
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1008
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: Does that make it right? No? Does it make it

1009
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: feel like that they're you know, they've lost some of

1010
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: their empathy to what has happened to Ariana. Yes, but

1011
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: I think that's the end thing is like this is

1012
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 1: a job that they've had for whatever over ten years,

1013
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: and they want to secure that bag. Yeah.

1014
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: I mean, but Ari, I think, like you said earlier,

1015
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: she's in a different spot. She has so many opportunities

1016
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: now that she's not as invested in this show anymore,

1017
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 2: and that has to be irritating for people that are

1018
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: invested in it, that is their thing and their bread

1019
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: and butter. Then they're going to be irritated and frustrated

1020
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: by someone who doesn't share that same amount of you

1021
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm trying to say, like, isn't as invested

1022
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: fully as they are because they have other things going

1023
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: on that are paid well or whatever. She has this

1024
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: rise up above, But I mean that has to be

1025
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: frustrating for them. And I think Laala was just had it.

1026
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: And then I think Sheena agreed with everything Laala said

1027
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: because these are probably things that she'd want she'd been

1028
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: thinking for an entire season, but she never had the

1029
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: guts to say it.

1030
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: So she's been just wishy washing.

1031
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 2: Yes, she's been trying to like, yeah, she's trying to

1032
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: play both sides and not you know, and then all

1033
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 2: of a sudden she's like, yes, what she said.

1034
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think there are also is a

1035
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: point to be made that Arianna is the one who

1036
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: called production to pick cameras back up when Sandoval went down,

1037
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: so she wanted all of that filmed, and Tom and

1038
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Rachel agreed to film. So you get why she doesn't

1039
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: want to interact with Tom and don't think he should

1040
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: get redemption. But you got to see both sides of this.

1041
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: Okay, let me here's my other thought on this. I

1042
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: understand that what happened to Arianna is very deep for her,

1043
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: but when it comes to everyone else, I understand that

1044
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 2: in the moment when they learned about it, it was deep.

1045
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: It was frustrating it when they were angry, they were mad.

1046
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 2: But when you're not in it, I feel like as

1047
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: time goes on, you move away from it, you're not

1048
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: as heavily invested anymore.

1049
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: Especially when like you have to also think like Lala

1050
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: and randall have kids together, they have a daughter together.

1051
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: They you know, regardless of how many years or how

1052
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: each relationship started, which I think both relationships allegedly started

1053
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: with cheating. There's no like who's right and who's wrong

1054
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: in this situation, but it is definitely more stressful to

1055
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: have a breakup with somebody who's cheated on you allegedly

1056
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: when there is a child involve and then you have

1057
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: to share custody of a child, not a pet, with

1058
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: another human being. So I just think there has to

1059
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: at least be that like point of view as well,

1060
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Like that is that's major. Then they show all the

1061
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: flashbacks of everybody throughout the years, and the producer announces

1062
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: that's the end, and then Schortz calls. Schortz is like, well,

1063
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: that was a fucking flot twist, and Sandoval says he

1064
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: loves it because it was good for him. But then

1065
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: on Watch What Happens Life, he said he meant it

1066
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: was good for him because what he did is his

1067
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: job that came together. He felt good he at least

1068
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: showed up and did his job.

1069
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 2: Do you think that's what he really meant when he

1070
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: said it's good for him?

1071
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh? I was like, listen, Tom, it actually was good

1072
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 1: for you until they kept that last line in and then.

1073
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: You can't say it's good for you. You have to

1074
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: just keep your mouth shut. At that point, you just

1075
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: have to let it play out on its out. You can't.

1076
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: You can't re like verbally recap your own reality show.

1077
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I can't. Wow, we really nailed it this season.

1078
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that was awesome of me. Did you see

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Speaker 2: how good I looked?

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Speaker 1: I loo was beautiful?

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Speaker 2: Yeah you did?

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00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: So you think you look beautiful?

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00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, that was great.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Valley. So here we are. We

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Speaker 1: are back Talk Valley Season one, episode eight recap starts

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Speaker 1: out where once again, Jack seems pissed at Brittany.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's permanently pissed.

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Speaker 1: Like I feel like this episode name should just be

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00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: Jack's is always pissed at Brittany.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he just wakes up and he's pissed.

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Speaker 1: Wakes and pissed. Brittany's talking to her mom, saying now

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00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: she and Jack's are unsure about having a baby number two.

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Speaker 1: Her mom things opening a bar is a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be mean, but at some point

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Speaker 1: during this conversation, I was like, I should have put

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Speaker 1: my subtitles song because I'm having all the time what

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Speaker 1: they're saying I did.

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Speaker 2: I missed some of that conversation too, I was like,

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Speaker 2: what did her mom? What is she just that? What?

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Speaker 1: Man? Let's go with south And I'm not on I mean,

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Speaker 1: but I do feel like her mom is you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty accurate. But this leads me to another question. If

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Speaker 1: you are having problems with your significant other, who is

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00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: the person you go to to talk about it with?

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00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: Is Like, would it be a parent or does Shane

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: talk to his parent?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: Or is it a friend or do you just keep

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Speaker 1: it on the cusps? Like what do you do?

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Speaker 2: Well? For me, it would be my sister. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't really have a close relationship with my parents,

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00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 2: so that's a that doesn't happen. But I have one

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Speaker 2: sister and we do talk all the time, so it.

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Speaker 1: Would probably be her. Do you think then that makes

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00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: her judge Shane for stuff when you've moven. Sometimes I

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00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: feel weird about sharing too much stuff because then I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna have to I'm super annoyed right now,

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: but most likely I'm gonna get over it. It's not that

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Speaker 1: big of a deal.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's what I think. I think if you share

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00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: about your significant other, you have to share with the

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Speaker 2: good and the bad. You can't just share the bad.

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Speaker 2: It has to be a good balance. Yeah, So when

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Speaker 2: he does great things, when he's good with the kids,

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Speaker 2: when when he does something nice for me, I make

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Speaker 2: sure I share that as well, So it's not always

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Speaker 2: just calling to vent about something bad that annoyed me.

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Speaker 1: You mean when he's telling his son to keep licking

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Speaker 1: the window, Yeah, before.

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Speaker 2: Go s lick it again, lick it again and again.

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Speaker 1: Then Janet's having Habachi night. She invited everybody but Kristin

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Speaker 1: and Luke listen. I'm sorry, Janet, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: have you on, and have you changed my opinion? But

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Speaker 1: since when are you the number one girl in the

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00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: group and you're calling these shots?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree with that one hundred percent. I actually

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: was like irritated by that. First of all, Kristin has

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Speaker 2: been on reality TV for a long ass time, so

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, Shell wouldn't exist without Riston at

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Speaker 2: this point. And then I don't know, cutting her out

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Speaker 2: like that, I didn't like it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it. But also I wanted to be

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Speaker 1: like Janet. I know you think that your main character,

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Speaker 1: but unfortunately you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: You are incorrect in your assumption.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then Jasmine and Chrisma, Christmin, Chris, Jasmine and Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Jasmine and Kristen for wine. Kristen saysn't a confessional that

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: Michelle was texting another woman having an emotional affair. We

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00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: see that jacks told Kristen at their previous lunch that

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00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: he was told Michelle was cheating with an actor celebrity.

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: Then they flashed back to the scene where he's like,

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Speaker 1: you don't think they're filming us, right, and she's okay, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: are on or the eight guys standing around with the

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Speaker 1: cameras in our faces filming? Like, is there a reason

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Speaker 1: we picked this jacked up place to lunch that we

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01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: get a freaking permit here? But it's clear, like Jackson's

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: moving storyline and Kristen, you know, Kristen is too, But Kristin's.

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Speaker 2: Not anymore in the wrong than Jack's. No, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: But let me just clarify something. So what JACKX knows

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Speaker 2: about Michelle came from Brittany, correct, Okay, So.

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Speaker 1: Then Jackie told Kristen and said, don't tell anyone, right,

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Speaker 1: don't tell anyone, but he said it on camera.

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Speaker 2: Right to these things work? Are those things on? Yeah?

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01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: But then texted Kristen afterwards after they just filmed a scene, right,

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: and said, don't say anything to anyone. I don't want

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: to ruin a marriage or a life or blah. Blah,

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01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: and she's like, what the hell are you talking about?

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01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: You just shared this on camera. So at that point,

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Speaker 1: this is where it's so bothersome in the world of

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Speaker 1: reality television that anyone at this point isn't realizing what's happening, right.

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Speaker 2: And why Kristen is the scapegoat for all of this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, not to compare it to myself, but I

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Speaker 1: was considered the scapegoat when it came down to the

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: Brandy and Denise stuff. But I was not Randy and

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Speaker 1: Kim came to a place where I was and told

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Speaker 1: me this information on camera. I wasn't like out on

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Speaker 1: the streets looking for this information like I was told.

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01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: It came to you. It came to me on camera.

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: At that point, it's already out there. Did I have

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Speaker 1: the choice to not share it?

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01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: Did I still share it?

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01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

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01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: But the point is it was already out there, so

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01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: it's already going to be.

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Speaker 2: Out there exactly. I mean, anything on camera's fair game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can't really you can't get upset at

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Speaker 2: somebody for sharing something that they was shared originally.

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Speaker 1: On camera, but then it's Hibachi night. Jesse removed Kristin

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Speaker 1: from the group chat. Jack says he blocked her. Then

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Speaker 1: Janet's all so happy to taught me how to block,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Janet, like, you don't know how

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Speaker 1: to do that, Janet, I'm sure you've been blocked plenty

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Speaker 1: of times.

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Speaker 2: It's time to learn.

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Speaker 1: Then Brittany leaves because she is sick from the sake.

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Speaker 2: Jack stays. But then Jackson is.

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Speaker 1: Like not very nice to her when she like, she

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01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a dick about it, she was just like she

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Speaker 1: took it. Then four minutes later you see her kind

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Speaker 1: of feel sick.

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Speaker 2: And he's like they're drinking. They're drinking that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, she wasn't pounding. She had one drink that

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Speaker 1: everybody else had. I guess there was a you know,

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Speaker 1: she had an ulcer back on vander Pump Rules and

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01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: the doctor told her not to drink. Who knows if

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01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: she still has that ulcer or not. But also, like Jax,

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Speaker 1: she's married to you, she's bound to need a couple

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Speaker 1: beverages before.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was the also the also the result

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Speaker 2: of being married to Jack's that's right, that also has

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Speaker 2: Jax's name on it.

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Speaker 1: Or decide if you're going to marry Jax after he's

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Speaker 1: cheated on you again, Like it's it could really be

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. I doubt it had to be

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: like a skinny margarita. But then they played drag your

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Speaker 1: Heart how well you know your partners? This kind of

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Speaker 1: was boring to me.

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Speaker 2: This, Yeah, well, I feel like it's like the same

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Speaker 2: thing over again. Here here's my take from that whole

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Speaker 2: game with the couples. What was it? They asked, like

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 2: who you would have a threesome with? And Danny I'm

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01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: sure he would answer, but Nia won't let him answer again.

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Speaker 2: I know we had this conversation before. But I like

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Speaker 2: them as a couple. I think they're very sweet. But

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Speaker 2: if they're not going to get messy, if they're not

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Speaker 2: going to answer questions, if she's going to stop him

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Speaker 2: from talking, and she's going to find everything inappropriate and wrong,

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01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 2: like I don't know if reality TV is for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be hard to continue

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Speaker 1: on because even that, I mean, we play that game

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01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: a thousand times, like, right, who would you rather? Like

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01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: everyone is not getting mad at me for it, But

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Speaker 1: then I was like, but you're comfortable sharing that you've

1237
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: boned on top of the rooftop and your knees are

1238
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: still bruised.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hmmm, but I just feel like there's

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01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: too many circumstances of her being like offended because things

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: are inappropriate. She doesn't want to answer, and she doesn't

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01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: want to engage, and she doesn't want to respond. It's

1243
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 2: like it's it's a reality TV show, like you got

1244
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: to get in there. You can't Everything can't be inappropriate

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01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: to you.

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01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think those are you know, do I think

1247
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: the other couples answered one hundred percent? Honestly, probably not,

1248
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: but Michelle did. Michelle was like, you know what I'm

1249
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna answer. I think Jesse'd pignea. But you do really

1250
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: see through this how much Michelle can't I mean, the

1251
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: amount of how much she can't stand Jesse is.

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Speaker 2: It's it's palpable, it really is.

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01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: It Like I get nervous watching him talk. I do.

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Speaker 2: I agreed a hundred percent. I'm like, I'm afraid she's

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 2: gonna like, like the switch is gonna flip and she's

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: just gonna like attack him or something. Yeah, it's always

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01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: so calm.

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: But then but also she never really shows any excite.

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01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like with the actor if she shows excitement

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: because I get being kind of monotone and whatnot, but

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01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: at some moments you would think there was like joy

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01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: or excitement or laughter. Even with one of the girls,

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01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: you never really see it. It's like so controlled and just.

1264
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: But even if you're having marital issues, like, don't you

1265
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: find moments with your friends or other people that you

1266
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: might find some joy or laughter in? Have we seen that?

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01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 2: I would think, I don't know. That's why you said

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01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: she was like an Ai.

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: She may we need proof that she's not. Is she

1270
01:05:54,160 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna get recalled like those new cyber trucks. Then Zach

1271
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: meets with Kristin to go over her James mat clothing

1272
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: line relaunch and his confessional. Zach says Janet is getting

1273
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: away with being messy because she is pregnant. He tells

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01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: Kristin there's no reason for her not to include people,

1275
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: just to do it. Then Jesse is getting ready to

1276
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: go away for his spiritual treat It's outside of his personality,

1277
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: but he thinks it will help repair his marriage. Then

1278
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: if Jesse goes, what would you like me to change?

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01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: And she said your personality.

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01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,959
Speaker 2: I know that's a good answer. Just everything about you,

1281
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, like you, how you are? Could you just

1282
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: come back a totally different person? That would be great,

1283
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: like listen, is Jesse great?

1284
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? But asking someone to change their entire personality.

1285
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: Feels borderline emotionally abusive to me. You may say, like,

1286
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 2: you know.

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01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: Teddy, I wish you'd talk with your hands a little less.

1288
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 2: But if you want me to completely shift who.

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Speaker 1: I am to my core and I'm married to you, like,

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Speaker 1: this is a problem.

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: It is a it's a problem. But could Teddy, could

1292
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: you change everything about you? Please? I'll work on could

1293
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 2: you go on the spiritual retreat before our next podcast?

1294
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: But will you do absolutely nothing to change yourself? Will

1295
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: you stay exactly the same and trigger me exactly the

1296
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: same way and hope I come back different?

1297
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay?

1298
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: This ayahuasca better work wonders for me next Wednesday.

1299
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: Before the pod, I kept thinking that she's probably pissed

1300
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: that it's only one night. Damn it.

1301
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: Can you lead for three weeks?

1302
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: It isn't like a different like a platinum version you

1303
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 2: could go, so it's like a week long.

1304
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: Because my actor dude, he's like, you know, he's in town.

1305
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: I got to pretend to sell him a house, but

1306
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: we've got an available one near Chateau Marmont.

1307
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: Like it's just constant.

1308
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: But then we get to the James May event, where

1309
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: did everybody realize it was not gonna be one thousand degrees?

1310
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: Everyone was sweating through their clothes and wearing the wrong.

1311
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 2: Colors, Like, don't that sweat on Jackson's shirt? That was

1312
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: just he didn't so he didn't just spill a bottle

1313
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: of water on him and he was that sweaty.

1314
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: That is why I don't wear colors like olive green

1315
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: or like dark blue when it's sweaty, or like a

1316
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: gray T shirt. I would be like, I'm sweaty human being,

1317
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: and I would really be pitting out. My first couple confessionals,

1318
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: I was like pitting out so bad that I was

1319
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: like having to talk and like panic that I've I

1320
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 1: lit my armpit. But this entire event doesn't fully make

1321
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: sense to me other than it's just a way to

1322
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: let Kristen and Zach know they're not invited to a

1323
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: baby moon. First question, who the fucking invites other people

1324
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: on baby moons? I didn't know that was a thing.

1325
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 2: It's not a thing. I feel like they should have

1326
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: it should have just had a different reason that they

1327
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 2: were going somewhere, because that doesn't make sense.

1328
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: Like called the last hurrah with friends or something. But

1329
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: a baby moon is normally like the two people having

1330
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: the baby together get away for their one last time alone. Right,

1331
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: not invite all their dysfunctional friends.

1332
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 2: Exactly, just call it something else. But then Zach cried, oh,

1333
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: because he wasn't invited.

1334
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 3: He took he took that hard, a hard hit for him.

1335
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: He took it so hard that Kristen didn't even have

1336
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: a response. Was just like, sorry, Zach, sorry, I fucked

1337
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: you over on this new TV job.

1338
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: But okay, but what's the reason Zach's not invited? Because

1339
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 2: he's friendly with Kristin.

1340
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: He thinks it's because he set up this event. He

1341
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: hung up these T shirts and told her to write

1342
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: restroom on the restroom door. But I think he probably

1343
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: wasn't invited. I mean, because I think it's a couple's trip.

1344
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, that makes sense.

1345
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: I also think that Janet and Michelle really thought the

1346
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,799
Speaker 1: audience was going to react differently to them while filming,

1347
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: so that's why they thought this could all happen. But

1348
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know this. They we got some

1349
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: work to get through. But yeah, you can see Jack

1350
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: spiraling like they're going to kill our show if they

1351
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: don't all figure this out. Right, Zach says, Janet is

1352
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: only inviting him because he Yeah, is only is not

1353
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 1: only inviting him because he's talking to her about Christna. Yeah,

1354
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: so that is what it is.

1355
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 2: But other people are friendly with Kristen and they're invited, right,

1356
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't understand the cutting. I

1357
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: still again, I know we talked about it before, but

1358
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand the cutting Kristen out, Like those are

1359
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 2: big moves.

1360
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't understand the cutting. I don't know why Michelle

1361
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 1: and Jesse and Janet think that they're in the place

1362
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: to be cutting people out exactly.

1363
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: And Janet and how she keeps just getting by with

1364
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: being the one that does a lot of the crap

1365
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: talking and no one seems to call her out for it,

1366
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: Like Kristen's always just the messenger ding dong that just

1367
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: messes up stuff.

1368
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kristin like will repeat things Jack told her, but

1369
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: she'll get the words wrong and then everyone will get

1370
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 1: mad at her. But what I do wish Kristin would

1371
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: do a little bit of is in these scenes where

1372
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 1: you see whether it's Luke or Zach or whomever trying

1373
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: to or even Brittney trying to talk to her about

1374
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: what she needs to do to mend this relationship, she

1375
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: just looks like forlorn, Like she's not even responsive, Like

1376
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: I don't think she's listening like she's Do you think

1377
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: that's because her feelings are hurt and she doesn't want

1378
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: to cry because she's like worried about getting kicked off

1379
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: the show or iced out, or she doesn't want to

1380
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: fully double down and say worse shit and get herself

1381
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: even more trouble.

1382
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, if she was truly worried about getting iced out

1383
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: and getting kicked off the show, she would have invited

1384
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: them to her T shirt thing. Was she not really

1385
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: selling T shirts?

1386
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: Was it just like, yeah, it was not to sell

1387
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: T shirts? She said it was just to hang him

1388
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 1: out there. It was a gifting thing because they're going

1389
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: to launch her new line and she wanted to gift

1390
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: it to people and take some pictures and YadA, YadA, YadA.

1391
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, but she did not invite Janet or Michelle and

1392
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 2: Michelle right, So I mean I feel like at that point,

1393
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 2: it would have been better for her to invite them,

1394
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 2: because then you can say that she's consistently trying to

1395
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 2: make sure that the group is together. I don't know.

1396
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: About a group event, but I think by this point

1397
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: Kristin probably should have reached out. I don't know what

1398
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Janet has to do with any of this, if I'm

1399
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: being honest, but should have reached out if she really

1400
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: wanted to fix things to Michelle, say sorry, I got

1401
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: things twisted in my delivery.

1402
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: And actually out of Jacks. Jackson is the one that

1403
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 2: told me this.

1404
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 1: Said I heard from Brittany, like get it, wake up, Kristin.

1405
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: If you're going to move story, then moving you should

1406
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: have found right to Michelle outed Jack's and then we'd

1407
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 1: be in a whole different Jozy of a sitch.

1408
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: Exactly Why do people not out Jacks? Why do they

1409
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: They just kind of brush over him and blame everything

1410
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 2: on Kristen. I don't really understand that.

1411
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe I started thinking that it's

1412
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: because everybody trusts Brittany, and people tell Britney things, and

1413
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 1: then clearly Brittany tells Jacks, and Jacks can't be trusted.

1414
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 2: Exactly don't dunt dunt dunt dund dum. But until next week, guys,

1415
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.

1416
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the reunion of vander Pump Rules and

1417
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: for the Valley to continue. And I hope they stop

1418
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: not inviting people to everything and they can work through this.

1419
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to stop doing that. Also, is there

1420
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: no reunion for the Valley? I keep reading there's no reunion?

1421
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: Is that a confirmed thing?

1422
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be a reunion. I had

1423
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 1: another question, would you Oh, Kristen said there's no reunion,

1424
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,440
Speaker 1: but I don't. Kristin also gets things wrong, so Christill.

1425
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 2: Also thinks that that Jesse's leaving Michelle, so really Michelle's

1426
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: leaving Jackse.

1427
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: But Kristen also tasted a piece of the Lizard's food

1428
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: or the get Ghos food, and you know, I liked it.

1429
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 1: I liked it, said it was delicious, and I'm not

1430
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: over it. So that's really where I stand. But I

1431
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: feel like Kristen, it's Kristen's time now to kind of

1432
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: throw Jack's under the bus.

1433
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: Let's do it.