WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Jazzy Jeff (Part 1) 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.679 Of Course. 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:04.720 Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:09.360 was produced by the team at Pandora. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.600 Welcome to QLs Classic Episode ninety seven with DJ Jazzy 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:18.120 Jeff August twenty eighteen. What can I say, Jazzy Jeff 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.440 is simply the best, most creative DJ of all time. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.239 There is no DJ today worth their grain of salt 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.400 that doesn't worship from the altar of Jeff Towns. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.880 And you know you know, so, without. 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.360 Further ado, I present you the goat of all DJs, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.200 straight out of Philadelphia, DJ Jazzy Jeff. 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.199 Here we go. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:55.560 Supremo Sun Suprema Roll Call Suprema Sun Supreme, A roll 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:02.800 call Suprema Sun Sun Supreme A roll call Suprema So Supreme. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.880 Roll another episode without Fonte Unpaid in Bostonville and I'm 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.120 stuck with Stephen my ear. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:19.360 Yeah, Suppreva Supreme, roll Call Suprema So Supreme, Rode. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.520 This dude can spin, yeah, this dude mixed tracks, yeah, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:29.560 this dude can cook, Yeah, this dude can act. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:35.400 Supreme Supremo Supremo roll. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:37.440 Yeah. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:42.319 And it's okay easy, oh Ship Jeff, Yeah, Jazz Love 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.240 Hillary Supreme. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:51.600 SUPREMEA Rod Car Suppreva Son SUPREMEA Role call. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.520 My name is Fast, Yeah, my crew is new still Yeah, 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:56.960 it's called the Trinity. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:57.520 Yeah. 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.080 We don't fight like Drew Hill. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:07.080 Supreme Supreme Supreme Supprime Role. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.680 My name is Jeff, his name is Fest. Yeah, it's 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.000 Stephen Laia. Yeah, and that's my brother Quest. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:23.600 Well Suprema Subprema Role, came Surema some SUPREMEA Role Calm 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:30.959 Suprema Suprema Role Supreme Supreme Roll. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:37.920 Oh man, yo, I have to say that of I mean, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.000 we're not one hundred episodes yet, but we're at least 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.880 at eighty something eighty something. Yeah, that is probably the 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.160 quickest sneaking of the feat. I mean, I've had well 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:49.640 renowned mcs just like. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:59.480 Dum you you might, I think your body should. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:02.600 I wrote that for him. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.079 I wrote that. That's my ghost racking right there. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:13.560 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another anemic episode of Quest 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.919 Left Supreme, only on Pandora. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.760 Uh, I'm still here with what's left of Team Supreme. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:21.119 Damn. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.359 You know when you gets hot outside, niggas start disappearing. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.320 Well, su Steve's still here, even though you know your 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:28.880 your your network star. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.600 Now, Wes, I have every excuse to call him sick, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:34.639 you know, mentally ill, among other things. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.480 Yeah, I see, well, thank you for still sticking. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:37.840 I never missed a shot. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.200 I assume that Fante is still working on his uh 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:45.440 uh his basement counter Yeah, his countertops is week number 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.440 five working on his miswork to work on your house, 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.120 hey man, bathroom. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.840 Tiles are important, you know, it's extremely important. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:54.720 Mean, while both Bills have medical conditions, So. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:55.080 There you go. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.960 I thought Bill's not at Assessame Street right now. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.480 No, Bill's getting his wisdom teeth out. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.640 Okay, I guess I can excuse that. All right, shout 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.000 out to Boss Bill, who has a headache right now. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:11.480 So wait, I don't know because if something happens in 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.080 the future, I don't want this to sound bite to 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:14.600 be play. 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.240 He has a severe headache right now. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:21.160 Yes, shout out to Boss Bill, and is a many headaches, 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.840 so I just want to make sure that I'm not 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.599 the source of the headache. So all right, less stressed 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.160 in your life, Bill, I promise to be better, but 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.600 you got admit I am improving since the beginning of 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:33.839 of course. 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:34.560 Love you have. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.599 But then you stop sugar and you back, so you. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.039 Know, oh okay, Yeah, Layah is claiming that I'm evil 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.200 because I'm day fifty one without sugar. 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.800 So I'm still here for it. 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.920 Thank you, Steve. Is that possible if you want to 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:50.880 live it? Is? I'm just saying that. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.560 You know, twenty twenty three, twenty four to twenty five, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.400 your concern was like getting shot at the club. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.600 Yeah, the new getting shot at the club is that 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.400 is getting the stroke. Yeah, like I don't want. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.440 To be I mean, you still got your boyhood figure, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:06.640 jeff So how you do it? 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:07.239 Listen? 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.160 I do one hundred and sixty dates a year and 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.400 walk like nineteen miles through the airport. 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:11.920 Wait. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.240 I was gonna say, wait a minute, time out. Uh, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.440 we're doing this ass backwards, ladies and gentlemen. I forgot 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.240 to introduce our actual guest of the show. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.760 Ladies and gentlemen. It could be Jeffrey Osborne if we 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:26.000 already he was. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.440 He was our last guests not bad yo. Did you 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.440 know he played drums with Smokey Robinson. No, you know, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:32.960 we forgot to ask Jeffrey Osborne. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.720 And we do this often. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.360 We often rabbit hole ourselves and introduce like a half 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.120 hour down the line. I forgot to even talk about 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.920 Whitney Houston's didn't we almost have it all? 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.520 He wrote that? 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:43.240 Oh shit? 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.320 Oh wow, yes he wrote that for it anyway, Uh 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:54.080 lazy Okay. Introducing Joff. Uh yeah, if if God were DJ, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.880 he'd be named Jeffrey Towns. Uh and wow, that's all 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.120 I have to say. It's gonna be the shortest intro ever. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:02.840 Uh. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.120 We have God himself of turntables Philly, his own DJ 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.400 Jazz Jeff the legendary DJ Jazzy Jeff on Quest left Supreme. 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:12.400 I would also hate that. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:18.720 It would also uh uh be remiss if I didn't 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:22.960 also mention that, uh, you're here with a very special guest. Yes, 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:29.520 another guy in his right Grammy and Oscar Oscar Winner 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.040 that was sermon now was paid Bill was here? 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.279 We have somebody that yeah his O but his get. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:44.440 Well yeah, because you know, well, I think what paid 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:44.919 Bill is a. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.159 Right one of our co hosts. He has a Grammy, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:50.880 Emmy and a Tony, but he missing. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:51.479 He's missing. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.839 Oh so if he was chilling with uh paid Bill 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.440 right now, we'd have a ghetto not an ron festers here, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:00.120 Lady John. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:06.000 The world uh. And also I should mention your. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:10.080 New project M three yes, uh in well right now 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.560 digitally available, but when will it be in store? 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.200 Will it be the stores? It's hard, hard U No 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.120 hard copies are coming. Listen, I'm doing this all independence. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.520 I have to come a little bit later. They're they're 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:23.080 on the way. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.160 Okay. Good, that's good dimension, that's good dimension. Yeah. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.600 So you you were saying that you keep in shape 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:36.040 because you just run across airports NonStop. See, but that's 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.040 the thing, my Achilles hill is being on the road 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:46.560 because you know, for every coffee shop in every airport, hotel, food. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.960 It is it is. 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.320 So how do you resist that? 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:58.400 And I know you live at home in Lynette's kitchen, yes, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:01.240 which you know, as far as I'm concerned, you guys 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:05.720 catch your fish and all your seafood in the backyard 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.520 of where you live. 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:11.520 So, like, how just just remain inactive. It's not even 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:15.280 an exercise thing, you know. It's really when you got 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.880 sixty pounds on your back because you try to take 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.440 every gadget in the world and you're pulling a little 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.520 portable studio on a pull bag and you're in London 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.840 Heathrow and your gait is thirty five minutes away. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:30.280 I know that. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:31.640 Yeah, you know that feeling. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.679 So it's a lot of walking. You know, you get 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.520 mad when you first go out because you wind it 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:38.880 and you're tired and you're mad. Your knee hurts. But 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.679 by the time you come home, I would say, you're 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.959 Oj Simpson. But you know what I mean, You know, 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:44.720 I know what you mean. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:45.920 Yo. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:47.280 Wait have you ever. 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:53.480 Have you ever successfully to me, like to successfully navigate 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.440 through Heathrow without them thoroughly checking my back Like Heathrow 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.480 is one of the yeah, most anal retentive airports in 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.240 the world. Yes, Like you can have a piece of 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.480 like gum in your bag and if you don't take 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.040 it out to let them know that, then they're they're 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.560 taking your whole entire fiber part of that bag. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.920 Or you just wait for your bag to go on 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.040 that separate lane. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.080 It's the worst. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.520 Then that separate lane you realize that there's nineteen people 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.480 in front of it, right, you're missing your flight. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.199 So y'all travel too much? 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.440 That whole thing was like, no, it's. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.160 For real, Like he Throw is one of the most 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.160 anal retentive, I mean most of them quality rhymed about 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.880 that even even on their first record, like the first 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.280 time I ever had to have. 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.600 The check he throw. 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.520 Has there been between the two of y'all? Y'all been 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.240 around the world like fifty thousand times. Has there been 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:47.280 anywhere you haven't been yet? 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.280 I just went to Kenya? That was That was your 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.240 worst time in Kenya? What was that? 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:54.480 Like? 0:09:55.480 --> 0:10:00.320 That was probably top three experience of my life? Why listen? 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.920 First of all, I was, you know, I don't change. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.839 I don't change the way I play anywhere in this 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.439 world at all. Because let me, let me give you 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.240 my reasoning. You don't go to Africa and play Afro beat. 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:16.439 That's the ship that they hear all the time. And 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.920 that's the biggest mistake that I think a lot of DJs, 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.120 because think about it when you get DJs that come 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:22.640 to Philly and be like, oh, I'm about to play 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.480 Crown Rulers and you kind of like, come on, dude, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.959 I came to see you play. I didn't come to 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.880 hear you play how you think I want you to play. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.120 So I never changed the way that I play because people, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.120 you're a seasoning in the restaurant, you don't change the 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:38.560 dish you. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:39.360 Called me out. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.640 I mean, listen, you know it's never too late though. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.120 Right, Yeah, but because you know what it is. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.280 It's kind of like imagine going to your favorite restaurant 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.959 and they changed the menu every week. You upset, you like, 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:52.880 I came for the fish. I want to fish in 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.880 the corn bread. What what's the meat loaf? 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.679 Okay, but I'm going to ask you about the Kansas incident. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.800 That's always my worst nightmare. 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:03.319 Well, you know what it is. 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:07.760 Kansas was me walking into that didn't have anything to 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.199 do with me playing. That had more to do with 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:16.240 the wrong event in the wrong place, you know, Like 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.439 you can't you know, because I had situations like that 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.040 when you know DJ Am passed away. I did one 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.360 of his memorials in Las Vegas, and I did it 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.080 in a place that they didn't want you to play 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.520 hip hop And I'm kind of like, how do you 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:36.040 have me do a tribute to a hip hop DJ 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.640 and not play hip hop? Like I'm kind of like, yo, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:39.800 so you're trying to do this ship. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.719 My name only wait that's still going on, Like, well 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.360 not now, but it was what was the name of 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.160 can you name? What was the name of the club? 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.959 What's the situations. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.720 Well, I don't want to start with the bad DJ 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.440 gig verse. I wanted to start with the early god 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.240 I did. 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.439 I was on tour with Sion and Sion was doing 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.240 these parties all over and we went to Kansas City 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.040 and played in the Power and Light District and it 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.679 was funny because I got there. Z Trip went on 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.120 before me and I came out and we started playing, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:20.920 like five thousand people outside we started playing and people 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.920 are rocking, and you know, my sets are very eclectic, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.480 like I'm gona playing some hip hop, I'm gonna go here, 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.199 I'm gonna do this. You know, at the end of 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.200 the night, you're gonna get a little bit of everything. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.000 And my road manager at the time came out and 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.280 put a towel on my table and walked off. So 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.480 I looked, and I'm looking at the tower that I 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:41.959 already have, and I was just like, why did you 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.320 bring a towel over? So he came out and brought 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.240 a bottle of water, and I had water on the table, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:49.400 so I knew something wasn't right. So he ended up 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.280 coming over the third time and he leaned down and 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.760 he said, listen, they're about to cut you off because 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.880 they're saying that you're playing too much hip hop. And 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:01.160 before they cut you you off, I wanted to let 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.120 you know so that you can make the decision. I said, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.640 oh shit, tell Skills, we're out of here. So he 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.839 went and leaned and told Skills, and Skills turned and 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:12.480 looked at me and was like word, and it was 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.000 like yeah. So right in the middle of everybody rocking, 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.880 I just said, so we were rocking. Oh listen, it's 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.600 non stop, non stop, like I think I was playing 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.199 Rihanna at that. So I hit the stop button and 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.199 Skills said, hey, I'm sorry, Kansas City, but we just 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.199 got word that they don't really want us playing hip 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.600 hop in here, and they were about to cut Jeff off. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.040 So before we let. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:36.599 Them do that to us, we wanted to make the 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.199 announcement to you that we apologized and we hope that 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.319 we can come back and play for you soon. And 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:44.880 took everything off and I walked our stage. Everybody thought 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.320 it was a part of the show, so they still 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:51.839 for about two minutes, and when the road managers started 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:56.440 coming out and breaking my equipment down, people went off wow, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.960 And I went downstairs in the dressing room skills standing outside, 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.480 and they kicked skills out the venue because they were mad, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.600 like they were this is the behind the scenes thing 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.800 that you weren't supposed to pull a curtain back. So 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.880 the hotel was across the street. I ended up walking 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.959 across the street and had no idea how big this was. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.960 And I remember this is early Twitter. I posted Wow, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.040 right party, wrong place. I was like, this is the 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.480 first time that I ever someone ever threatened to kick 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.720 me off in twenty five years, and went and checked 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.320 into the hotel. I called, you know, my manager at 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.200 the time, and he was like, change your flight. You know, 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.000 we had like a nine o'clock flight. He's like, get 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.400 on the six o'clock flight, he said, because I guarantee 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.240 you they're going to be pressing everybody at the airport. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.320 So I changed my flight and we got on the 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.880 plane and flew at six o'clock and I landed. By 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.240 the time I landed, Associated Press had called me like 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.040 it hit everywhere, and I was just like, like, it 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.280 got so bad that the owner of Power and Light 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.680 was the owner of the land of forty forty cloud 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.960 and it got so bad that he called Jay Z 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.120 for Jay Z to call Will for Will to call 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.280 me because he wanted to talk to me, and he 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.600 was like, listen, I need to meet with you so 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.240 I can officially apologize. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.960 Didn't you win the first Grammy for hip hop? 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:16.560 Hey? 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:17.200 Listen? 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.200 They was trying to get me to come back, Like 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:20.920 what did they? 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:23.120 It was just the area of. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.360 No, No, it had nothing to do with that. It 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.480 was kind of like, you know what par and Light 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.520 is like, paring Light is kind of like I don't 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.520 want to say Infinity Live. It's like one of those. 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.120 But it was kind of like, we're not really trying 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.440 to have that hip hop element because from what I 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.520 heard after I left was they were like, you know, 0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:49.680 we don't normally come down here. They don't like you 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.280 in sports jerseys and baseball hats. And it was one 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:57.440 of the yeah, yeah, basically, let's setting that tone this 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.720 code talk. But you know how it is you kind 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.560 of times you skate under the radar because it's like 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:04.840 that's Jazz from Fresh Prince of bel Air not knowing 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:05.880 that I'm playing mob deep. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.080 But what was z Trip playing like? 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.120 Because Trip was playing mash up, so he was sneaking. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.480 He was sneaking, but understand. No one said that, like 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.720 all of these days that we did, no one said 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.560 when you come here that you have to play like this, 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:23.960 Like you know, a lot of times people tell you 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.440 how you want to play. I'm like, I'm cool. Like 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:26.120 if I can't do. 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.640 Me, then how do you How do you handle it? 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.760 Because I don't. I don't. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.960 I don't that. I don't accept that at all. Even 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.200 at the most prestigious get I won't take them. If 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.880 you don't want me, then don't book me. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:41.560 Always, your whole career. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.880 Always, if you don't want me, don't book me, man 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.240 I because you know, you know how this is Vegas. 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:51.680 Vegas got like that, you know, Vegas got to the 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.960 point that it was kind of like where we kind 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:55.960 of want this, Like I remember, do you Vegas? 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:56.400 Listen? 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:57.680 I don't do Vegas anymore? 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:58.640 They listen. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.920 I get a million offers to do Vegas and I 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.080 turn them down. But you remember, like we we you know, questioning. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.760 I had a resident residency at the same spot and 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.320 I never forget the first time that I did it. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.880 When I was done, they came down or someone said, well, 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:17.720 we'll have a report for you, and I was like 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:22.440 a report I ain't never had a report. What's the report, Like, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.879 we're gonna give you a report, you know, And it 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.760 got to a point that you know, oh yeah, you 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.480 were great and this was cool, but it was kind 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.000 of like, so you got people down here like checking 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.040 on me, like I've been DJing in Vegas before. Everybody 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.119 who works here, yeah, you know, but it's you know, 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.640 I might at the end of the day, if everybody's 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.320 having a good time and they buying drinks and everybody's cool, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:42.920 leave me alone. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.600 This is weird now because it's like the variety that 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:51.440 you have that allows you to DJ in spaces that 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:58.480 your average your your your your average guy. Okay, well 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.879 I'll be honest, because I mean it's the white elephant 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.240 in the room. Obviously, you and Cash are Philadelphia gods. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:08.960 And. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:14.240 Your level of celebrity has allowed you more oxygen and 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:17.480 more leverage and where you are now. And it's also 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.000 on how you you freak it and how you handle 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.080 your business that part, you know, so I can't ignore that, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:30.920 but it's like, are you I'm the type of person 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.040 that dreads when November comes around because in my head. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:37.960 Usually when December. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:43.399 Gigs come, I'm always like damn, January is coming, and 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:50.840 it's going to be another year where someone born in 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.800 two thousand and two or you know, someone born in 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.720 nineteen ninety nine who will be twenty one or whatever, 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:03.520 you know, won't know what don't stop till you get 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:04.520 enough is more. 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:10.600 It's like those records that used to be instant, they changed, 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.679 like you you remember how like you would play the. 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.680 Opening horn riff of like Troy Yep and it was 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.600 like chaos, and then the moment you mean when it stopped. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.399 You mean when that stopped, yo, when I had one 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.200 of the worst incidents, well my first incident of that, 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.120 I did it Howard's Homecoming. Oh no, And I remember 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.520 when you do the whole you know, I remember when 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.679 you would play all of the current stuff and then 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.720 you would kind of into your ERICB for President and 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:42.480 everybody would lose their mind. And I dropped Eric B 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.919 for President and everybody just stood there and I was like, wow, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.520 like because now Eric B for President is the entrance 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:52.879 to where I'm going. So I'm like, oh shit, you 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.080 don't know the door that I just opened up. I 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:56.560 don't know if I can go in the house now. 0:19:57.720 --> 0:19:59.600 So I was kind of you know, and I remember that, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:02.879 but that was the first time that I learned the 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.120 lesson that you have to pay attention because every few 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:12.960 years the timeline slides, you know what I mean. Like 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.480 it was I remember, you know, a couple of years 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.520 ago going overseas playing and somebody dropped Eve who's that girl? 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.560 And the club went crazy and I was like, oh shit, 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:24.760 this is their classic? Now that was So you just 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.720 have to keep you just have to keep your music 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:29.200 set up in a way that you just have to 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.439 slide it, slide it like you got to pay attention 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:32.760 to who's out there? 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:36.919 But are you ready to mint that front and by Pharrell? 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:41.160 Is now the new message? By Graham Asters? 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.000 Yeah, like that's old school now, well you know what 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.399 it is. This also comes down to who are you 0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.520 playing for? You know what I mean? 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.920 And so are you playing for yourself? Are you playing? 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:56.040 Oh no, no, no, no, no listen. I do a 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:02.040 very very good mixture of playing. I take enough met 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.960 gigs to make to make me happy. But my job 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:05.920 is to play for the people. 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:09.000 So wait when you went to Kenya, because we started 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.399 with Kenya, So now I want to know and reference 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.920 to Kenya, like what made the what made the crowd 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:14.560 go crazy? 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:15.240 And what was there? 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:16.640 Like they throw back down? 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.040 So we where we played it was a restaurant, so 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.280 we went and ate. Like when the club opened up. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.399 When I was telling you, they was playing Mary J. 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:30.639 Blige album cuts like it was one hundred percent pure 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.840 black music and deep black music. They appreciate it to 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.359 the point that I was kind of like, oh, if 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.640 that's where y'all go, oh, I'm good, I'm good. 0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:41.359 So you know it was. 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:43.320 It was everything from. 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:50.040 Some classic house stuff to mob deep to like they 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.000 they I couldn't stump them. 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:54.600 What were you saying about it? 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.440 Like, you know, like so I danced a little bit, 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:00.440 you know what I'm saying, But when you go to Africa, 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.879 like you're just insecure, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:05.640 you're like, man, it ain't no dance that I can 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.560 do that's gonna impress nobody out here. And yeah, but 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.680 when Jeff played that music, they're all it's like you're 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.880 at You're in the home of where rhythm started. You're 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.480 in the home like when you when you get I 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.040 heard the black people in America was from West Africa, 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.160 But when you go to Kenya, they'd be like welcome home, 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.320 and you look around like really like you know, like 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.240 this is amine too like and and you know, just 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:32.120 the welcoming atmosphere. But you know they got like bodily 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.720 and musical superpowers if they want, because that's where it starts. 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.080 How many how many days or weeks were you guys there? 0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:42.119 We were there for three days? Really three days. We 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.399 we played like the first day we got. 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:47.000 There coming straight from America or no, no, no, no. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.760 We were for a mom Okay, I was about to say, 0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.160 like for three days. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.320 It's like that lag do the gig. 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:56.080 Have some food and well listen that. Yeah, it gets 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.080 like that. We were in Dubai and we flew from 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:07.080 Dubai to Kenya. Food was amazing, the seasoning to see. Yeah, 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:10.560 you know, because everybody has this whole thing of when 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:15.040 I'm going to Africa, I'm going to eat necessarily African food, 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.920 like they have their food and then they have food 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:20.560 that everybody eats. 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:22.320 You know, it's weird. 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.960 When I went to South Africa, there was a place 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:33.159 that it's almost like they know what foreigners are looking. 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.720 For, like that Africa. 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:41.520 Africa, you know, like they're looking for that, and they 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.399 actually made they have a restaurant that plays up to 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:46.040 that whole thing. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.160 But I could tell it's just like for tourists. 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:51.760 Like I asked the guy, I'm like, Africans wouldn't eat 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.440 the spot, right, And he laughed like, no, this is 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:54.119 just for tourists. 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.840 Like they went. How they took They took us to 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:57.480 the real deal. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:02.040 We ate at a restaurant that was overlooking an African 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.960 preserve that if you sat at your table and squint 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:07.240 it you could see a giraffe. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.880 What it was deep? It was deep, Like I asked. 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.879 There was a big security guard that was with us, 0:24:13.320 --> 0:24:14.720 and I was like, let me ask you a question, 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:19.639 like how close are we to the lions? Like and 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:25.440 he was like not so far, Like he said yeah, yeah, 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:27.520 like they they'll come in the hood. 0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:29.240 Yeah. 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:35.119 They told stories about gorillas that crossed the road and 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.800 if one of them get hurt, the cars got to stop. 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.359 And if you try to ride past the gorillas to 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:44.040 jump on the car bang your window that you have to. 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:52.240 Yeah, you gotta stop and let them. It was, oh, listen, 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:56.880 we went to a we went to an African animal. Yeah, 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.960 that was first of all. Let me explain it, Michael Jack. 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.240 He The guy was telling us that when a lion 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.119 roars in full voice, you can hear him ten miles away. 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.240 Said the lion will roar into the ground and vibrate 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.960 the gout. That's how he lets everybody know. Get out 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.679 my way. But that's a dear Listen, they were feeding 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.800 the lion, and the female lion came over to try 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.840 to grab a piece of meat from the male lion, 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:25.240 and the roar. 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.040 That he let out. 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.760 I let a little bit go, That's all I'm gonna say. Like, 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:35.000 I ain't never heard no ship like that piece of chicken. 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.040 Listen like that roar. I was kind of like, I'm cool, 0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:39.840 I'll take my lions in the zoo. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:41.600 That was a little deep. 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:44.800 I gotta I gotta got experience. 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:46.359 I gotta figure out way to get over that. 0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.680 Anyway, I'm glad that I'm here because they are greatly 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:53.800 wanting you to come down. I greatly want you to 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:54.560 come down and play. 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:59.840 I'm saying that no one has ever carried on a 0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:06.520 string teased me more than the entire continent of Africa. 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:08.520 But you've been a couple of places in the South. 0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.320 I've been to South South. It's different. 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.159 I've been to South South. He's in South Africa. You 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:15.800 almost don't get cool points from going. 0:26:15.720 --> 0:26:17.000 To South Africa, North America. 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.359 Where you're going, I'm going to South Africa. Yeah, okay whatever, 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.880 Like I got props when it was like I'm going 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:28.200 to Kenya right over they just called really called, was 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.000 like listen, and it was crazy because once I accepted Kenya, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.280 then Tanzania, card and all these other people, and it was. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.000 Just like it was it was a little too late 0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:36.240 for that. 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.119 Now that I know what I know, I gotta you know, 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.680 you need to go like going to beIN or my 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:43.720 what Nigeria? 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:43.840 What? 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.200 I will tell you you will absolutely body that. Like 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.800 they asked, They were like who who who? 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:50.360 Who? 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:52.760 Do you want to come down and play we Love Premiere. 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:54.840 It was like we would love quest Love. We don't 0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:56.240 know if we can get him. I was like, I'll 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.480 talk to him because I'm like, oh, he's. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.360 Not that I don't want to go. You will matter 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:01.680 that time. 0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.719 Well, wait a minute, I know you're meticulous about your 0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.159 back line, So do you just take do you now 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:10.600 just travel with all of your equipment? 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:11.280 No? 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.960 I just so they have Pioneer turntables there or Pioneer 0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:15.560 just ships them. 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.920 Yeah, they have Pioneer turntables, had an s no mixer 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:19.560 what yeah that. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:25.520 Man? Okay, well yeah listen hown I. 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:28.560 Said when I was there, they had the Flintstone Bird. 0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.879 I'm just saying, back in two thousand a date, you know, 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:41.000 if I had just send a carrier pits and send 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.719 a few break beats over to me, Yeah, now they 0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:46.280 were they were okay, they were cool. 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.840 They gave me a bunch of music too, Okay, So 0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.399 you know, I go down there, I was. 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:54.280 Getting tired of people giving you, like all their twelve 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.120 inches and the forty five's and everything. 0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.320 You can't say that outright because you know, just you 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.800 almost need to carry a bag for the stuff that 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.600 people give you on a tour exactly because you just 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.280 kind of come home and it's kind of like, you know, 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.440 and I will really really appreciate this T shirt, just 0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.280 like I appreciate the twenty two thousand T shirts. I 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.000 get that you want me to take the T shirt 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.520 with your album cover artwork home. 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.760 What It's almost like you can travel like a Navy 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:26.960 seal now like you probably could just you know, live 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:27.960 off the swag. 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.040 That's given to you on the road. 0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:30.879 Pretty much and pretty much. 0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:31.240 That's that. 0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:36.800 I will kill myself. 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:40.680 But I don't start the way I always out like, yeah, 0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:45.160 we always started the beginning. But it's also been a 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.720 long time since we had an episode of. 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:54.520 So Jeff. As as as as the. 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.240 Music extraordinary that you are and being one of the 0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:03.760 many one of one of the first pioneers to actually 0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:09.640 introduce jazz samples to hip hop. Uh. We do a 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:14.000 game called but You Guessed It, in which I will 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.520 play a quarter of a second of a particular song 0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:18.960 and you have to even guess. 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.160 The artist or the song he said. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:21.640 A quarter of a second, yes, quarter of a. 0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.120 Second, quarter of a second, yes, some are easy, some 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.840 or not. There is no you. This is this is 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:34.080 I'm just saying this. This is round one of Okay, 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:37.960 can you name this break. 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:40.320 Bracket in the pocket? 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:41.600 You are correct? 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:47.440 This, I know it. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.120 That's the who who makes it. It's the original. I 0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:52.040 don't want to be a player. 0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:55.320 Thank you. 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:56.560 The first Monday. 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.720 I might need help because I may not know the names, 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.800 but you don't know that I know what I'm talking about, 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:01.240 all right? 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:02.080 Number three? 0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:06.560 Yeah, brand new or a bouncy lady. 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:12.560 Yes, I love how you just that pleasure break. 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:14.840 Mm hmm. 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:17.280 Do that one more time? 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:18.640 Mm hmm. 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:22.320 Yeah that's do do. 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:30.760 Together? Do the message by yes, me and the beers. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.360 You ready? Number five? Yeah? 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:41.520 Oh one more time? Yeah, you might stamp me with 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:43.760 that one. Wait a minute, one more time? 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.040 No, one last time? 0:30:50.760 --> 0:31:00.240 Yeah, nope, mhm. 0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.760 Uh that was Ohio players singing in the morning. 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:13.200 See yeah, yeah, he got biggies. 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:19.320 Uh ready to up? All right, you're allowed to strike? 0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:21.400 Number six? 0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:22.520 Mm hmm. 0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:32.600 Is that Parlem with Funkadelic, Yes, the number seven? Oh, 0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.120 that is it. 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:34.600 The bird is playing Johnny Guitar. 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.400 Watson Superman Lover. Yes, number eight. 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:40.400 Mm hm. 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.800 That is the original be a Father to your child 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:45.600 EDLG and the Bulldogs. 0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.920 You're close wrong single? Yeah? Yeah, not be a father 0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.520 to your child? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:54.200 I gotta have it. 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.200 Yeah bo Hannon burn that song singing. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.080 A song from my mother being five to your child? 0:31:59.240 --> 0:31:59.760 Was that ship? 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:00.840 All right? 0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.440 Two more left? Two more left? Last one? All right? 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:04.320 Second and last one. 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:15.320 The original dre ship? Yeah, chick moaning I want to 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:16.520 do something freak. 0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.880 Uh. Side note, I actually thought that was my mom. 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:27.360 Oh no, only because Dre uses my parents sample and 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:31.240 that ship too, So I thought that you. 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.200 Knew your mama were weird. 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:39.160 I'm sorry, mom, the like, sorry, my mom has a 0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:44.000 similar s side. 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:50.920 I'm not that oxygen oxygen technique tale on her record, Yeah, 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:56.000 excel on her record. So yeah, I was very relieved 0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.880 to find out that, no, that wasn't my mom, but yeah, 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.840 she does something something anyway. 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.200 Your last song all right, this this is the comic 0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:15.480 kaze one more Time, M one more Time. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.760 That's not h one two, three, four, five, six, seven, 0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:30.120 eleven twelve. 0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.640 Only did that because of your connection with Jill Scott 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.680 and getting in the way and her dropping. 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.160 That anyway, Uh, even though I know it. 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:45.560 Uh, Sir Jeff Towns, could you please tell our audience, 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.240 almost three hours into the show, where you were born 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:48.800 in what city? 0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.240 Osborn in West Philadelphia? 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:54.280 We're in West Philadelphia, Like, are you allowed to talk 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:55.800 about your old neighborhood. 0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:56.239 Now that you don't live there? 0:33:56.400 --> 0:34:00.160 I am. I'm from fifty seventh and Rodman, which which 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.640 is right next to fifty seventh and Cedar, which is 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:08.000 between Baltimore Avenue and Market Street. Which is funny because 0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:10.680 you know the north side is basically the north side 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:14.680 of Market Street south side is south of Market Street, 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:19.920 but before Baltimore Avenue, so not southwest past Baltimore Avenue southwest. 0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.040 So in eighty five, how close were you to that 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.720 move fire? Oh man, behind those sage. 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:30.920 Yeah, it was. I was about five blocks away, like 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.080 literally heard the gunshots. Like the night before. You know, 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.160 everybody in the neighborhood was just like, yo, something's going 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.680 on because you knew move were there, you know, just 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.200 going on a block. I went there, be outside with 0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:42.760 the ballhome. 0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.360 Jack Junes was like yeah, crawling on the floor and it. 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.480 Was crazy because that night they were like, Yo, something 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.040 is gonna happen. And we went up to Kyles Creek 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.720 Parkway and it was I've never seen as many cops. 0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.200 I've never seen a swat team, you know, in real life, 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.680 and they all were out there the big flood lights, 0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.800 and you know, we stayed up there for about two hours. 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.840 I mean you couldn't get but three blocks close to it. 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:12.120 And then we went home and I never forget it 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.400 had to be about five o'clock in the morning. I 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:22.120 have never in my life heard twenty minutes of sub 0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:27.000 automatic weapons being fired in your neighborhood. Like it was 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.360 nine stop and you you know, you didn't know, like 0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:33.920 you're hearing this through your window, not knowing what's going on, 0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.319 and you turn on the news and you know, so. 0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:40.000 You had no clue that in twenty four hours entire 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:41.120 blocks will be burnt. 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:42.239 No exact. 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.319 Like we saw the helicopter fly over, and we saw 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.960 when it dropped it, and we didn't know what it was. 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.120 We saw when it dropped it and you heard this 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:55.520 incredibly loud boom that shook everything in the neighborhood and 0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.000 we were just kind of like, what was that? And 0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:58.560 they were just like they must have dropped some kind 0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:03.160 of explosive and then fire started, and like to realize 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.960 this might have been three o'clock in the afternoon, and 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:12.520 no one came, like, there wasn't a fire truck around 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.279 for a good five to six hours. So to watch 0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.480 it burn a complete blockdown, and you know how the 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.000 blocks are that they're connected, So it burned a blockdown, 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.800 it went through the alley to another block and burned 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.240 one side of another blockdown. 0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.400 As a whole cider. I'm still surprised how y'all let 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:28.719 this go down, But I'm just gonna say that I 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:32.120 don't understand Philly, y'all you are a Philadelphia I am, 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:33.600 but I was in DC at the time, and I 0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.160 just know I felt like if it would have happened 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.360 in DC, a bunch of black people would have took hands, 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.719 went grew and got around the neighborhood and been like, 0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:41.279 I'll be damned if you go out to bomb these 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:42.240 black people and these babies. 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:43.040 No, you didn't know. 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:46.800 You didn't like understand this is all news media, and 0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:51.360 this is after all of this gunfire, and what happened 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:56.080 was people didn't know, which I personally believe that I 0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.680 don't think anybody from move shot. I think this was 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:03.200 the least shooting at each other because all it takes 0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:07.000 is one shot, and and it was just gunfire that 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:11.360 no one was kind of like known to have shot 0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.160 somebody you didn't know, So it was just kind of 0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:16.400 like nobody moved. You didn't know what was going on. 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.439 And to be honest with you, in nineteen eighty five, 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:30.480 black Christian Conservative outlook was was hot and black Christian Conservative. 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:36.160 I think it's almost a step ahead of racist, redneck 0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:44.200 Southern Bible Christian Conservative. It's almost like, you know, I remember, 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:49.000 like practically everyone in the neighborhood saw the move people 0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:55.359 as heathens. Yep, they eat raw meat, they homeschooled their kids. 0:37:56.719 --> 0:37:57.799 But I remember the move. 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.240 My brother used to live on forty fourth from Paltain, 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.880 so I remember the first move with seventy seven Yeah naked, 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.920 so you you you know, you knew about the organization 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.480 and what it was, and they had a standoff there. 0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:13.239 I was just a little bit too young to really 0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.080 understand what it was. So when they kind of moved 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.640 up in the neighborhood, you kind of it was still 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.960 the same chatter, and you know, you're getting the information 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:22.800 off of television. 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.920 So yeah, I was also that was I was heartbroken 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:30.439 that day. I just got dumped by like my first 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:31.239 high school girl. 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.840 The only time a bomb been dropped in the country 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:35.439 you talk about. 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.040 I'm just saying, man, none of that. She's like I 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.040 had a bomb dropped on my heart. Yeah, man, Like 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:42.960 I came home. 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.640 Seriously, like the second they dropped that bomb in like 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:52.920 three thirty, I was right on my porch and I 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:53.239 was just. 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.800 Like, yeah, let me go watch the last Cosby episode. 0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:01.880 For those of us who weren't there, can somebody just 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.440 give us a brief about move not only about move, 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.040 but about this bomb that was dropped. 0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:08.720 I've never heard. 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.239 Loost Bill will be played by Steve Mandel. All Right, 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:15.920 so basically move, I wouldn't know how to how to 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.000 exactly I kind of get to move. 0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.000 Or he's asking about the correlation between the bomb. 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.680 And the bomb there. Okay, so according. 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.560 How Philadelphia people really explain this, this is not a mirror. 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.920 He's don't I don't want I don't want to leave that. 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.439 I don't want to be the all sides guy. 0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:44.719 But so basically, I guess there was tension between the 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:48.320 neighbors of the fifty eight one hundred block of Osage 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:54.000 Avenue and the Africa family, which all their last names 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:56.440 were Africa, similar to like having an X. They all 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.040 took the last name of the Africa and it was 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:03.200 like fifteen people in the house. Everyone had a similar 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.759 look dreadlocks. They were more like a primitive I mean, 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.239 the thing is that it would be totally normal now 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:10.680 in the times that we live in, but back then 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:13.520 you saw someone dreadlocks, you were just like snakes in 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.760 your head and you must move drugs like Bob Marley 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.120 and you know. And they didn't believe in They just 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:25.520 didn't really believe in the westernized colonization of where America 0:40:25.719 --> 0:40:28.120 was their education system and all, so they want to 0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:29.160 homeschool their kids. 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:30.080 They armed themselves. 0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.640 Well right, yeah, they armed themselves. So it was like 0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.880 part part uh uh, part black. 0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:44.480 Panther ideology, educate your kids live like vegetarians. It's I 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.640 think the complaint was mainly a noise complaint. And then 0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:51.399 they would they would they were us on the roof 0:40:51.719 --> 0:40:55.680 with a bullhorn and just preached their message. 0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.879 And they occupied homes. They didn't boy the home. 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.759 Oh yeah, like and see, I think one of the 0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:04.680 things that was different was this was in a residential 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:08.239 neighborhood like so they were in the middle of the 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.279 block like this. It wasn't like they were in the 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:14.240 suburbs or had a farm. They were your next door neighbor. 0:41:14.760 --> 0:41:17.600 And not to mention, they were already targeted because in 0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:23.680 nineteen seventy seven, our mayor Frank Rizzo, who was like, 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.359 I mean, if you think like Giuliani era New York 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:33.640 mixed with Donald Trump mixed with I mean, just think 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:33.960 of the. 0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:39.600 Worst racist police state mayor you could have. 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.879 They had an incident on forty fourth and Palatain where 0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:49.680 it was like because of a disturbance there, and then 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.719 there was a shootout and he made them all come outside. 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.320 I just remember the picture of them all naked, like 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.360 twenty of them, hands in their naked and. 0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:02.600 Some of them died. 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.880 And so there was already tension between the Philadelphia police 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:11.120 and the Africa family. So once once complaints and protest 0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:17.600 uh were happening with the residents, the cops were sort 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:18.840 of like, you know, and get out the house and 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.120 they're like, no, this is our property, YadA YadA, yadda, 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.239 And there was a standoff. It was like a four 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.239 or five days standoff where they just seal off the 0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.880 block and you saw news cameras and news people like 0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.640 bending on their knees like you know this Jack Jones live. 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.800 Oh no, k y w N Now we're outside of 0:42:35.800 --> 0:42:40.200 the Africa home. And and then on May thirteenth, man, Yeah, 0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:45.520 the commissioner decided to just fly in helicopter right over 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.640 their rooftop. I'm trying to figure out, like what was 0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:49.200 so distinctive about their rooftop. 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.240 They had something on top, they had a bunker. 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:56.759 Yeah, but you've realized how precise your aim has to 0:42:56.840 --> 0:43:00.239 be to drop like, so they basically I don't know 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.080 if it's a grenade or whatever, but they dropped some 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.480 sort of device that just they dropped a bomb. It 0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:07.360 was a it was a legit bomb. 0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:09.680 First and last time ever on the United States story. 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:11.000 So they dropped a bomb. 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:14.919 And you see how like row homes are in Philadelphia, 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.239 so it's not like there's a separation. 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.640 And so they let this house. They tried. They were like, 0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:22.400 we're going to burn you out the house. So they 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:23.239 burned them. 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.520 Well, they literally killed them all but two, but then 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:30.320 the fire spread and then the next two houses, and 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.279 then two hours later the entire block was dummies. But 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:39.960 then five hours later that one big ass block hit 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.640 the next block, and then that entire block hit the 0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:46.279 block across the street, and then that spread. So at 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:50.880 some point around nine o'clock we gotta knock saying there 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:53.840 was like the block. Captain was sort of like, okay, 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:59.080 just be prepared to I lived on the fifty second 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:02.120 block and this is the eight hundred blocks. So around 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.480 like nine pm, even though we thought they would contain 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.880 the fire, there was like concern that the ship just 0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:10.240 might spread and spread and spread. 0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:13.600 Yeah, it was just it was. 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.560 It's crazy that I'm asked that anywhere I go in 0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:23.239 the world, because everybody's kind of like, yo, didn't weren't 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.880 you guys that the people that dropped the bomb on 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:30.320 a residential area. Yeah, it ain't like some ship you 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:31.160 want to be known for. 0:44:32.080 --> 0:44:39.880 Yeah. So records, yeah, yeah, no, So how did you 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:40.560 how did you. 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:47.640 How did you start your your I guess that even 0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.560 before DJ you have to love records. So what was 0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.360 the first record you ever purchased? Or were you like 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:54.480 the youngest I was? 0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:58.680 Yeah, you know, well, you know what it is, like 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.479 my brother played bass for the Intruders, So they would 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:06.040 actually rehearse in our basement, which was a little deep 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.560 because you know, you're so young that you're not allowed 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.239 in the basement. That I would sit on the top 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.400 step and they would rehearse, and then I would slide 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:15.840 down to the next step and slide down to the 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:18.080 next step till they finally see me and let's say 0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:22.080 get back up, you know, get back upstairs. But then 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:26.600 my dad was an MC for count Basie, So yeah, 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:29.279 like my dad, like I grew up with seventy eights 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:33.000 in the house, West Montgomery. Jimmy Smith and Arthur Price sock, 0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.839 so you had those. So it was almost like being 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.279 the youngest, I had the best of everything. I had 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.320 the seventy eights. You know, my brothers were you know, 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.240 my brother was the weather report, Maha Vish New orchestra person, 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.280 and then of course your sisters how many years older. 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:55.840 I'm oh man, I was the mistake, okay, Like I 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:57.840 was the one that was a little bit of farther 0:45:58.000 --> 0:45:59.480 gap that it was kind of like, yeah, this was 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.319 a hot and every night with my mont and dad, 0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:05.320 because everybody was like, you know, one person was this 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:10.319 you know, you know, forty nine and fifty one, fifty three, 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:12.400 and you know, it got to the point that it 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:14.000 was kind of like, yo, there was like an eight 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.880 year gap with me, Like I wasn't supposed to be 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:20.160 his right, right, but you know, but I was. I 0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.440 was the sponge, so you know, and and what I 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.280 give more credit to was my you know, at about 0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:29.719 seven years old, my brother showed me how to take 0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.680 records in and out of the sleeve. Don't put your 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.080 hands on the records. You hold your thumb at the end, 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:36.839 you put your finger in the middle, bring it out, 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:41.160 don't don't touch touch the vinyl like that, and he 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.600 had you know, he had a set, he had a 0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:49.480 receiver records now now like we've used I think I 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:50.640 think that ship out the window. 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:51.560 My parents were like that. 0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:54.279 But he, you know, he was kind of like, listen, 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.320 if if you, if you take care of it, I 0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.239 will let you use my stere system when he was 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.160 at work, what like seven years old. But what I'm 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.640 gonna tell you was crazy. I'm seven years old and 0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:11.440 I'm making chick corea tapes cassettes, like he gave me 0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:14.719 a blank cassette and I'm listening to music, not really 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.520 understanding what is attracting me to this music. But I'm like, 0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:20.960 oh my god, I want this chick career song and 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:23.759 oh look, you know, return it forever and I want that. 0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.759 And because the his music was my music, and I 0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:32.000 would make these, make these tapes, and I got sucked in, 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:33.880 like I didn't understand it was the chorus structure. I 0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.560 didn't understand what it was. It was just the it 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.640 was a pure attraction of music. And then the Stevie 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:40.600 Wondering and Marvin Gay. 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.840 So that's what makes you different. You didn't have the 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:47.960 don't touch my stereo. Oh no, I had the exact opposite. 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:51.360 I had the exact opposite. 0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:52.720 See, I had. 0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:55.920 Don't touch my stereo. But I also lived in the 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:59.600 house with three collectors that hove the stereo. So I 0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:04.759 was forced by will too, you know, by force. I 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:09.759 had to listen to their music and don't touch my 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.440 stereo on the car and none of that stuff. So 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.879 I was that music was forced upon me. And then 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:17.320 I guess Stockholm syndrome. 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.799 I just like I used to do this weird thing 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.080 that this is probably the first time that I'm ever 0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:26.640 admitting admitting this. But I would have a radio and 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.959 I would go and take a bath, and I would 0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.239 take the radio in the bathroom and I plug it 0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:33.200 up and I would sit the radio on top of 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:36.759 the toilet and I would grab the plunger because you 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:40.839 got to understand a plunger microphone, it's a microphone, it's 0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:45.200 a horn, it's a bass, it's a guitar. Oh, I 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.759 would mimic every but you know what I did. It 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:53.960 made me memorize every guitar solo, lick for lick, every horn. 0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.879 So listen, I was switched. I would have that ship 0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:57.719 out playing. 0:49:00.560 --> 0:49:06.839 Look the whole entire room just turned against. 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:08.360 The first thing. He says, I use a plunger for 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.800 a mic, like but no, no, no, listen, what was that? 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:16.040 Literally everything everyone in this room, the people across the street, 0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:16.680 that froker. 0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:24.880 Listen, man, you know your imagination and music is basically 0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.480 while I'm sitting here, because you. 0:49:27.600 --> 0:49:28.759 Look ill meant the same thing. 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:31.799 When James Brown was on Dinah Shore doing body Heat 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.080 and that's the first time I saw him do the 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:34.920 microphone tricks. 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.600 I got the toilet punch and start doing the microphone tricks. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.480 And then my mom was like, so. 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:42.640 See I didn't do it in front of my mouth. 0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:44.040 I had a lock on the door. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.080 Oh you knew better? Oh yeah, yeah. 0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:48.920 Yeah. 0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.960 And I didn't put the plunger near my mouth. 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.520 You know you plunge, slash, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:59.799 You listen, But but the top like, I wasn't doing 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:03.400 it the rubber part, which was the horn, and you know, 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:05.279 you would grab a roll of toilet paper and that 0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:09.680 would be your muzzle on your on your trumpet. So listen, 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.320 I went to what was Steve was just like, wow. 0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:18.520 Where were you busy in the bathroom? When were you 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.280 allowed to curate. 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:26.640 The first backyard barbecue or like what you consider your 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:27.919 first DJ gig. 0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.840 I started making mixtapes for all of the dancers, not 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:34.960 necessarily mixtapes. If you had a cassette that had a 0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:39.480 spring loaded pause button that it did it instantly. You 0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:42.400 could like you know how sometimes you would have the 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:44.560 pause buttons that you would hit it and then it 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.800 would engage. If you had a spring loaded pause button, 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:51.200 it would stop automatic. So I would just make the 0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.000 love the Life you Live break that all of the 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.520 dancers would dance off of. I was the one that 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.560 had it that went for ten minutes. Yeah, so I 0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.480 would go to the end, and you got known for that. 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.000 And then it just turned into you know what, I'm 0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:08.480 gonna steal some of my brother's records and not eat 0:51:08.600 --> 0:51:11.520 lunch the whole time. I'm in school and I'm going 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:15.360 downtown because you remember funkal Mart had three five for 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:18.840 you know, two dollars, and I would just I started 0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.239 a record collection like that's I realized that the record 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.640 collection is the most important thing as a DJ. 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:27.640 What was the first because I did when Rappers a 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:31.560 Light came out, I begged I think twenty people for 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:35.640 a dime mm because there's like seventeen. 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.520 So yeah, listen, I had, like, what was the first 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:45.880 record that you like, bar Kay's Holy Ghosts Moving by 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.399 Brass Construction because I was a little pre hip hop. 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:51.600 So that's what they play at the block parties. I 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:53.560 just want to make your dream come try by mass production, 0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:55.600 and you know, it was it was all of that. 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.120 It was the funk and soul bands. 0:51:57.520 --> 0:51:59.040 When did you play your first block party? 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:09.040 Probably about eighty seventy nine eighty. I know, I was 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:10.080 still in school. 0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:13.359 Too, so I know Philly is known for these DJ 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:16.680 crews like astrou Oh yeah, this was this was way 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:17.200 before that. 0:52:17.560 --> 0:52:22.359 This was super before that, like enough to go off 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.719 the block, so let alone have a crew. But it 0:52:24.800 --> 0:52:28.040 was it was older DJ's on the block, and you know, 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:30.680 and that's the first time that you got in front 0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:35.879 of two turntables and a mixer with headphones mix. 0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:39.640 Oh yes, I had nothing, and they trusted you. Yeah. 0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:42.200 I mean, listen, I was the guy that when they 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:43.400 had to go pee, I played. 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:46.600 Yeah, you were like, I was gonna say, have you 0:52:46.680 --> 0:52:47.960 ever been someone's record? Dude? 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.080 Always? That's all I was to all of the older guys, 0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:54.240 and it was just you know, I don't remember what happened, 0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:57.000 but I gotten to a point that I would do 0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.680 stuff by myself. And you I know from growing up 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:05.800 in West Philly that we have an iconic public enemy 0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:10.280 type flavor flave figure named Crazy D that if Crazy 0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:13.000 D was at your block party, your block party was 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.560 guaranteed to be a success. So people would go and 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.680 recruit him. And they had a block party on fifty 0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:21.360 seven Cedar, which is a big block to two Way Street. 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.800 And I remember looking at all of the DJs in 0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:26.960 the neighborhood. You had Disco Doc, you had Disco Rat, 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:30.400 you had Email Disco, and all of them had no 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.839 block parties. They were all there. So it was kind 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.600 of like when you don't have any other competition and 0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.680 they're all they're watching you and you're fourteen fifteen years 0:53:39.719 --> 0:53:42.359 old in the street with four or five hundred people 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:46.400 and you're controlling them. That was the That was the signal. 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.600 That was the signal in the neighborhood that that he 0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:50.320 got it. 0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:52.160 Like that was it. 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:53.520 It was that one block party. 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.440 So how long was it before you were able to. 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.359 Because I know turned, I mean I had to get 0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:04.400 a record budget to buy my turntables and my mixer 0:54:04.480 --> 0:54:05.239 and that sort of thing. 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:06.880 So like I was in a lot of crews that 0:54:07.000 --> 0:54:11.560 had equipment, so one guy, you know, it was kind 0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:17.799 of like you practice, though I would mentally practice, no, Jeff, listen, 0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:21.040 I'm I'm dead that serious. I would practice in my head. 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:23.440 That was the only way that I can get ten 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:28.719 spent in my head project. Well that was before that. 0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.160 That was before that, but you know what it was. 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:37.520 What helped was if you cut Grand Master Flash super 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:41.160 Wrapping at a party and you killed it. The next week, 0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:44.120 the DJ in your crew is going to cut that record. 0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.640 He's not gonna leave it for you. There wasn't there 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.839 wasn't favoritism or any of that. So what happened then 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.319 you learned how to cut at the party by Treacher's Three, 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.120 and then the next week he would cut Grand Master 0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.719 Flash and the Treacher's Three. So you systematically kept going 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.719 through records finding root teens to do off of these 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.600 records because it was it was that competitive, you know, 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.960 you you know the back in the day parties, you know, 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:11.400 Grand Master Flash super Wrapping was paid twenty times because 0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:12.719 everybody had a routine off. 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:18.960 Of it, right, who who was the first? Like did 0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:21.759 you pioneer the whole let's dance of the drummers beat? 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:23.040 Like what that was? 0:55:23.280 --> 0:55:24.120 That was a classic? 0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:27.719 Like I don't think anybody necessary like that's what was 0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:29.799 the record that the drummers beat? 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.640 Like that to me is is that's Philly? 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:34.719 Like that was one of the things that I would say, 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:38.360 like that didn't belong to any DJ specifically, that was Philly. 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:42.040 That was DJ Spinbad, Lightning Rich, that was every DJ 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.960 and Philly cut pumped me Up, they cut dances, drummers beat, 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:51.040 they cut, it's time, they cut, you know, clear they 0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.840 cut Like there was just a staple of Philly records 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:55.520 that all of the DJs cut. 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.880 But I mean, who was the first cat that was 0:55:57.920 --> 0:56:02.160 just like, yo, just pump me up normal, I'm gonna 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.759 bump the bump up, bump, bump me out like. 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:08.359 Ways to every You know what was funny? I think 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.640 when I saved up enough money and got twelve hundred, 0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.640 because I understand all of this early stuff was done 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.920 on belt drive turntables, which I think helped me a. 0:56:17.960 --> 0:56:21.040 Lot because the record goes fat okay, but you know 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:21.319 what it. 0:56:21.400 --> 0:56:23.920 Was, it helped your hands. You know that's my hands 0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.800 got light because they had no choice but to be 0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.360 like because I was on the wackiest equipment in the world. 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.840 So so without butter rugs, how were you able to 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:34.759 wax records under wax paper? 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.080 You would go in your moms and pull out some 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:39.560 wax paper, put a record down, you cut it out 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.120 and poked a hole in. You start scratching too much. 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.319 The wax paper would get too big and start sliding off, 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.600 and you gotta get some new wax paper. There wasn't 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.880 We didn't have any of those tools. We didn't have 0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:52.960 butter rugs. Felt mattch You. You know, you bought a turntable, 0:56:53.000 --> 0:56:54.719 you had the big rubber mat on it that you 0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.080 just tossed away, and you know, forty five made the 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:01.600 record wobble, which you had to have really light hands because. 0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:02.520 You would cut forty five's too. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:06.240 Well, No, you would put a forty five underneath the twelve, 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.840 and oh but that didn't work. So the wax paper 0:57:09.960 --> 0:57:12.560 was it. Or you would cut an album cover and 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:14.840 try to use that. You try to get a glossy 0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:17.160 one because it was a lot more. He would spray 0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.560 WD forty in your mixer, which I know Steve is 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:23.880 just like, oh, my god, you would spray it in 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.200 the mixure. You knew it was going to destroy your mixer, 0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:29.360 but it would make your crossfader cool. So you know, 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.520 it was kind of like listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:57:31.560 --> 0:57:34.200 kill it for about three weeks and then the here 0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:36.960 comes the static and it's time to retire, and you 0:57:36.960 --> 0:57:39.040 would just sit it on the cell shelf and let 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:40.960 it dry out. By time to dry it out, you 0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:41.919 could do it all over again. 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:44.880 Can I ask you all a question, just in a 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:48.480 DJ culture question, like what is Philly DJ culture and 0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.200 history mean to hip hop versus other cities? Well, of 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:53.800 course people would say New York, But what do y'all 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.880 think that it really means to the culture. 0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.680 Well that leads to my next question, because I think 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:06.400 that yes or no, did you invent the Transformer scratch? 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.920 I don't. I don't give that. If I had to 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:11.360 give that credit to anybody, I would give that credit 0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.800 to DJ Spinbad, the original spin Bad who used to 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:15.560 DJ Forbell. 0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:18.560 Yeah, he's from Philly, Yes he was. 0:58:18.800 --> 0:58:23.000 He was the first person to do something that sounded 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:24.520 like that. There was no name. 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:26.800 He was doing it with the up and down. It 0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.000 was no rhythm to it. 0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:31.440 But he was the first person that did it forward 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.040 and did it backwards and then basically. 0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:35.800 It did the light bulb go off in your headlight? 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:37.880 Oh completely, But you know what it was when you 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:41.960 think about it, what Graham was the Theodore invented. You 0:58:42.160 --> 0:58:45.360 took and you said, okay, Flash added some rhythm to it, 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:49.240 you know what I mean? Okay, who decided to use 0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:52.200 the crossfrader and cut the scratch on and off? Like 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:55.280 it was all of these add ons that people did. 0:58:55.440 --> 0:58:57.720 So when he did it, it was kind of like, Okay, 0:58:57.880 --> 0:58:58.280 he did it. 0:58:58.400 --> 0:58:59.000 That was dope. 0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:01.040 But he didn't put any kind of rhythm to it 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:06.200 like everybody. You know, everybody's rhythm is syncopated. Nobody was 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:11.520 like everybody's that that. 0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:14.800 Okay, So see that right there. So if I was 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:17.280 to say what alt Philly DJ's hip hop would be, 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:19.280 what it would be something like that, Like it would. 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.920 Be technique is something that Philly is definitely invented. 0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:29.320 Technique Like most people credit spendbad Uh you cash money? 0:59:29.880 --> 0:59:35.400 There's a fourth one. Uh, we don't play what is miss? 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:40.200 I would say that, well, okay, I'll ask you who 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:45.480 without hurting people's feelings who's in your Mount Rushmore? 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:49.080 Oh you're already there. 0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.920 Who Now is this Mount Rushmore in Philly or just 0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:54.160 in general Philly? 0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:55.600 Cash? 0:59:55.800 --> 1:00:03.200 Absolutely crazy thing. It would be cash grand Master Neell 1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:04.000 and Cosmic keV. 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:05.480 Well, I knew you was gonna say keV, but I was, 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.240 that's wow, that's awesome. 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:10.640 Like and it's ken my idol. Listen, keV keV. 1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:13.880 keV. 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.960 keV was incredible. Cosmic keV is the fastest DJ ever 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:23.200 heard him? Like he was he was, he was incredible. 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:26.160 Like I like, we get mad at keV because keV 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:28.640 don't beat keV no more. And I'm like, come on, dude, 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:30.840 I know you got that ship that don't. 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:31.360 Ever go nowhere. 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:32.520 Wait he doesn't do it anymore. 1:00:32.920 --> 1:00:35.479 No, No, I ain't saying like that. I'm saying like, listen, 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.520 like I said, I get mad that this generation of 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:41.360 people who know Cosmic keV don't know the cosmic keV 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:43.960 that I know. Oh you know what I mean, Like 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:47.280 you know, keV grand Astonell, like everybody kind of had 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:48.880 something and it was you know, and it was really 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:53.320 dope because you know, when cash wasn't necessarily from Philly, 1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:57.800 cash from Yaton and you know, we brought Cash into 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:00.080 Philly and introduced him to all of the promoters and 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:00.680 all the rest of that. 1:01:00.960 --> 1:01:05.960 Wait, you don't consider Yayden, Well, well I do, I do. 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:08.320 I mean, you know, it's kind of like you you 1:01:08.560 --> 1:01:10.200 kind of count Sharon Hill as Philly. 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:12.840 Yeah, okay, back in the day, used to think that 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:14.600 was a suburb. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it. 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:17.600 But you know, but you know, like you know, Nell 1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:19.600 used to bring us to South Philly because you wouldn't 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:22.000 go to South Philly without knowing somebody. You wouldn't, damn it, 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:23.240 trying to go down there and DJ. 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:24.160 So you. 1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:29.680 Listen, it wasn't like that, Like I listen, I remember 1:01:30.240 --> 1:01:33.440 keV bringing me to Mount Airy to DJ at a 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:38.240 block party, and someone snatched this guy's glasses right next 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:39.960 to me. He had a pair of Neil Styles on 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.320 just like I did. And they snatched his glasses and 1:01:43.480 --> 1:01:46.240 didn't snatch mine because I was up there with keV. 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.280 I forgot you grew up in the era of snatching. 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:58.560 Listen Gazelle's Space Invader hats I remember, Yeah, I forgot 1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:01.600 about that era. It was rough, you know, and and 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:05.800 I understand I needed glasses. So my ship wasn't for show. 1:02:07.000 --> 1:02:09.600 You got transitions before we even had transitions. 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:09.919 Listen. 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:13.160 So somebody snatched my glasses. I don't know if I'm 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:15.760 a beer fire. I got robbed too, and somebody took 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:18.080 my gazelle. They took my glasses, took my sneaks. 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.160 What at? 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:21.080 Noah? 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:24.600 Listen, I was coming home, coming home, and you saw it. 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:27.720 You saw the whole thing being set up. We were walking. 1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:32.080 Funny is I was with a friend of mine and 1:02:32.240 --> 1:02:35.040 we stopped and was talking to this girl and these 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:40.080 two guys walked past, and they walked back past. So 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:41.960 it's kind of like the second pass was kind of 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:43.640 like that's when you kind of cut your eye, and 1:02:43.800 --> 1:02:46.320 the third past they came back and we kind of 1:02:46.360 --> 1:02:48.320 looked at each other like okay, you know what this is. 1:02:48.920 --> 1:02:53.080 So as they walked left, we walked right. And what 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:55.320 he did is he looped around and came through the 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:56.960 alley and jumped out the alley with a gun and 1:02:57.120 --> 1:02:59.640 was just like give me your glasses. And I'll just 1:02:59.720 --> 1:03:01.680 repeat did everything that he said because it was in 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:04.160 broad daylight. So he's like, give me your glasses. I 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:08.760 was like, glasses, Like give me a chain, give me 1:03:08.880 --> 1:03:11.640 my chain because I'm like, I'm stalling because my man broke. 1:03:11.880 --> 1:03:12.320 He broke. 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:15.600 I mean, listen, I wasn't mad shit he had a gun. 1:03:15.600 --> 1:03:17.600 I would have broke too, damn it will I'm playing, 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:21.880 but he broke, and you know I was. I was 1:03:21.920 --> 1:03:24.880 two seconds away from like, Okay, he doesn't look too 1:03:24.960 --> 1:03:27.520 confident with his gun, so I'm about to suckle punch 1:03:27.560 --> 1:03:30.160 the ship out of him and run. And what happened. 1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:31.959 Then his man came up, So now it's two people. 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:33.240 So it was kind of like, okay, all right, let 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:35.800 me just give my glasses and give you my watch, 1:03:35.920 --> 1:03:36.960 and and it got caught. 1:03:37.600 --> 1:03:38.080 Oh they did. 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.720 Long story short. He came to court with my sneakers on. 1:03:42.840 --> 1:03:45.640 You You remember how you used to lace the sneakers up, 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:48.400 that how all one side would be red and one 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:49.240 side would be blue. 1:03:50.360 --> 1:03:52.520 I knew how to lace my sneakers to New York 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:53.960 strings in the same suit. 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:56.280 I knew how to lace my sneaks up, that this 1:03:56.400 --> 1:03:58.479 whole side will be red, this whole side to be blue. 1:03:58.840 --> 1:04:01.200 He came in to sneakkers that he wribbed me in. 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:05.320 I let the judge know. He said they were his sneakers. 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:07.400 I told him take the laces out and let him 1:04:07.440 --> 1:04:08.680 lace them up, and. 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:09.240 Did he do it? 1:04:09.280 --> 1:04:12.320 And he couldn't do it. Wait, the judge made the 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:14.800 judge made him do it. He couldn't do it, and 1:04:14.920 --> 1:04:16.400 it gave me the sneakers back, and I took the 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:17.040 sneaks and throw. 1:04:16.960 --> 1:04:17.520 Him in the fass. 1:04:17.560 --> 1:04:18.680 It's just like, I just don't want you. 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:22.440 To have Yeah, it'd be such a great episode. 1:04:22.040 --> 1:04:25.880 Of C S I or l A Law Like you're 1:04:25.920 --> 1:04:39.760 so old, you said, l A. 1:04:40.320 --> 1:04:40.880 I love that. 1:04:41.320 --> 1:04:42.200 No, I get it. 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:45.400 That is you should sell that episode. 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:53.680 How did you first hear about the d mcs? 1:04:54.920 --> 1:04:55.439 Oh man? 1:04:56.040 --> 1:04:58.520 How many? How many belts? Is that a real thing? 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:01.120 Or just where is that? Folk Awards? 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:03.720 It wasn't belt. I got a cup. I didn't get 1:05:03.720 --> 1:05:04.040 a belt. 1:05:04.920 --> 1:05:05.920 Was it the very first one? 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.520 No, it wasn't the first one, but I got I 1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:10.120 got a cup. 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:12.600 What year did you win yours? 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:14.120 Eighty six? 1:05:15.160 --> 1:05:17.160 Okay? And how many years were they in existence? 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:17.680 Oh man? 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:17.920 It was? 1:05:18.400 --> 1:05:20.600 It was there for a couple of years before that. 1:05:21.000 --> 1:05:23.960 But it was funny because when I got in, fifty 1:05:24.000 --> 1:05:27.720 percent of the DJs were mixers. So they got really 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:29.720 really mad at me because I kind of changed the 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.560 whole landscape of the DMC. So before you can listen, 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:37.320 before listen, the dude was playing and he I need 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:42.520 Love and he's mixing the next record, and I came 1:05:42.600 --> 1:05:45.760 in like no technique lass Lassan, and it was just like, 1:05:46.520 --> 1:05:47.680 we can't keep up with that. 1:05:48.400 --> 1:05:50.680 What's the d MCS DIC mixed Club? 1:05:51.400 --> 1:05:52.480 Yeah, I never knew that's what. 1:05:52.560 --> 1:05:59.040 DMCs do think about it just mix, Yes, But so 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:02.840 you're saying that before you came in, Before you came in, 1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.560 it was just about who had the hottest mix in 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:07.120 five minutes pretty much? 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:11.240 Who were the previous winners before? I don't know, so 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:12.880 who was going up against you now? 1:06:15.840 --> 1:06:17.720 I want to say, well, because it was two it 1:06:17.840 --> 1:06:19.800 was the New Music Seminar and it was the Disco 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:22.600 Mixed Club, Disco Mixed Club. I remember Van dy C 1:06:22.880 --> 1:06:25.600 was in it, and it was a couple other dejits. 1:06:25.640 --> 1:06:28.520 I think wiz Kid was in it. I don't know 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:33.040 the mixer. The mixer guys it was from Philly as well. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:34.600 He's not from Philly, he's from Jersey. 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:36.840 He was he was, he was. 1:06:36.920 --> 1:06:40.080 I was in the New Music Seminar with him. He 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:44.240 was the he was the d m C World champ 1:06:44.520 --> 1:06:46.320 at the time, and. 1:06:46.400 --> 1:06:47.360 How did you defeat him? 1:06:50.520 --> 1:06:53.560 What do you mean how I was better? 1:06:53.920 --> 1:06:57.200 Okay, but you know what, like listen and and and 1:06:57.560 --> 1:06:58.840 he's he's he's cool. 1:06:59.080 --> 1:06:59.240 You know. 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:01.600 I love that brother. It was just funny at that 1:07:01.760 --> 1:07:04.760 point in time. I was never really I never really 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:08.640 considered myself a competition guy like listen, I like, I 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:10.480 like to do it. I was just kind of like, damn, 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:13.080 I'm really mad that everybody's trying to put this person 1:07:13.160 --> 1:07:15.080 up against you. It's just like I enjoyed doing this. 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:17.800 I ain't playing basketball to win the dunk contest. I 1:07:17.960 --> 1:07:20.160 just like playing ball. But that was a way to 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.600 get your name out. So when I got into the 1:07:22.680 --> 1:07:26.520 new music seminar, being from Philly, what did you cut with? 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:29.400 I did? 1:07:29.520 --> 1:07:31.680 That was when I did the bought a mansion for 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:36.920 your mother thing and broke it down. But it was 1:07:37.000 --> 1:07:41.280 kind of like he right before we went on, I 1:07:41.360 --> 1:07:44.040 went to shake his hand and he didn't shake mine. 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:45.680 I was just like, hey, man, what's up. Good luck? 1:07:45.720 --> 1:07:46.960 You know, because I was like, man, I like you 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:49.160 got the King cut record out, and he didn't. He 1:07:49.200 --> 1:07:52.360 wouldn't shake my hand, you know. But it was just 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:55.400 it was literally one of those things that I'm kind 1:07:55.440 --> 1:07:58.600 of like, listen, the equipment was messing up. I realized 1:07:58.640 --> 1:08:02.320 that nobody was using their own needles. Nobody was using 1:08:02.840 --> 1:08:07.960 I won that with technology because the equipment that everybody 1:08:08.080 --> 1:08:11.080 was using, everybody lost on the side, like it was 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:14.200 two setups to set up on the left. Everybody lost 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:18.400 because it was jumping. And when he didn't shake my hand, 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:23.040 I deliberately walked to the left side. You know, I 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:26.840 was like, no, I'm going to show you that. I'm 1:08:26.920 --> 1:08:29.000 going to show you completely. And I reached. 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:32.639 I purposely took the bad side. 1:08:32.760 --> 1:08:35.760 Like Will was pissed off because everybody was like, when 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:37.240 you go out there, go to the right side. 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:38.479 And I walked up and. 1:08:38.520 --> 1:08:40.600 Went to the left side, and I reached in my 1:08:40.680 --> 1:08:42.599 bag and I put my own needles on. I had 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:46.000 some ADC needles with quarters on top. And I reached 1:08:46.040 --> 1:08:48.679 and I put my wax paper on and I put 1:08:48.760 --> 1:08:52.040 my record on. And the funny thing with Steve was 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:54.679 gonna kill me. I reached in my bag and while 1:08:54.720 --> 1:08:59.960 everybody was looking, I took the long straw and said crossfader, 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:02.320 and as soon as it got loose, I went my 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:05.400 headphones and I tested the left turntable and I tested 1:09:05.439 --> 1:09:07.439 the right one, and I looked out at the crowded 1:09:07.520 --> 1:09:08.200 Will and I was like. 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:11.000 Yeah, that's it. 1:09:11.160 --> 1:09:14.519 I was like, like, none of those DJs even thought 1:09:14.920 --> 1:09:19.760 knew none to wait their ship, not or balance none. 1:09:20.240 --> 1:09:24.080 Only you were doing that just me. And once I knew, 1:09:24.160 --> 1:09:25.160 I was kind of like, I'm good. 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:29.280 And I started breaking breaking stuff down, doing rhythm scratches 1:09:29.360 --> 1:09:32.280 with job rhythm scratch and you know, just stuff that 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:35.040 people hadn't seen or heard before. 1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:40.400 And that's how you won. That was it? I see, 1:09:40.880 --> 1:09:44.160 all right, Uh, I gotta get to your your production phase. 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:44.479 I know. 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:47.320 Jeff was like, this is got We're gonna have to 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:49.679 have him back for an whole mon like production phase. 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:53.000 I told you before he got here, I was like, 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:54.040 I don't know how we're gonna do this. 1:09:56.520 --> 1:09:59.800 This is a two parter that's waiting to happen. I'm 1:09:59.840 --> 1:10:03.280 not stopping the story is no, I'm just I'm I'm 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:03.879 just saying. 1:10:05.080 --> 1:10:06.760 I see he's let's go. 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:08.880 You know, we're gon we can get and then we're 1:10:08.880 --> 1:10:10.120 gonna make him come back again. 1:10:10.560 --> 1:10:13.760 Yes, okay, So how did you partner with Will? 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:19.400 You know every day everybody had a rap group, everybody 1:10:19.439 --> 1:10:21.000 had an MC, everybody had a DJ. 1:10:21.600 --> 1:10:24.519 Wait before I asked that, how did I heard a 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:27.839 mixtape once of you battling Victor do play. 1:10:31.280 --> 1:10:31.479 Dick. 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:35.200 It wasn't who put that mistake one. 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:38.560 It wasn't a battle. It was people just recorded. But 1:10:38.640 --> 1:10:40.759 it was kind of like people used to do calling 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:42.120 responses with records. 1:10:42.439 --> 1:10:44.320 But I thought he was your record dude. 1:10:44.720 --> 1:10:48.120 No, you know, Vic, Vic was the young guy that 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:49.720 used to come over the house and I would show 1:10:49.800 --> 1:10:50.200 him stuff. 1:10:50.800 --> 1:10:53.080 Yeah, but then what happened with this thing like your 1:10:53.200 --> 1:10:54.880 battle with Jeff and Vic. 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:55.479 The dick. 1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:57.960 Telling that title. 1:10:58.080 --> 1:11:01.559 What happened was Vic when on at a Central High 1:11:01.640 --> 1:11:05.120 party and as a joke, he took a he took 1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:07.960 a jab at me with records because we're all cool, right, 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:10.000 he took a jab at me with records. So it 1:11:10.080 --> 1:11:11.479 was kind of like, Okay, you're gonna take a jab 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:14.360 at me. You don't understand that I got this laundry 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:16.880 list of things that I can do to you. And 1:11:17.439 --> 1:11:20.479 and Ice, my MC at the time was the one 1:11:20.520 --> 1:11:22.560 that was like Victor Dick. So now to show you, 1:11:23.320 --> 1:11:26.960 because it came out on a mix tape, you don't 1:11:27.000 --> 1:11:29.240 get a chance to see what actually happened. You only 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:31.960 hear it, so everybody's like, oh my god, you killed 1:11:32.040 --> 1:11:34.920 Vic and it was like it wasn't like that stage. 1:11:35.000 --> 1:11:35.200 Yeah. 1:11:35.360 --> 1:11:37.240 Can I give a millennial footnote real quick to all 1:11:37.240 --> 1:11:40.040 the millennials Victor Dick aka Victor Cook aka Victor to 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:42.000 do play. You may know him from a party called 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:42.719 Kissing Grind. 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:47.760 Yeah, there we go, the god Kissing Grind. Yes, that's 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:48.600 that's come up with the. 1:11:48.640 --> 1:11:50.320 Century and one of the producers, one of my favorite, 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:52.680 Eric Eric green Eyes. I always like to put that 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:52.960 in there. 1:11:54.320 --> 1:11:57.479 Victor Cook, Victor Victor, I'm a call him Cook. I'm 1:11:59.560 --> 1:12:00.680 no he. 1:12:02.400 --> 1:12:07.840 Wait, Actually you mentioned something very crucial, uh for Philadelphia 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:12.880 hip hop heads. The the high school jams. How were 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:16.400 they booked? Because those were like on level of college jams. 1:12:16.479 --> 1:12:18.880 But you know what, all of the DJs were from 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:23.120 Central High Like Vic went to Central Where did you 1:12:23.160 --> 1:12:26.679 go to high school? I was, but you know I was, yeah, 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:29.280 I was out of school by then. Oh, but it 1:12:29.400 --> 1:12:31.080 was just kind of like I got booked because of 1:12:31.120 --> 1:12:33.599 my affiliation with Vic and everybody else. 1:12:33.720 --> 1:12:36.960 So you was there an agent that just had y'all 1:12:37.000 --> 1:12:43.280 going on to high school was an agent. An agent six, 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:48.600 I thought an agent was a guy that you know 1:12:48.800 --> 1:12:49.400 did these things. 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:51.240 Now you just you know, you knew that you knew 1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:53.679 the guy who was throwing a party, and you wanted 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:55.600 to kind of be his favorite because he would, you know, 1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:58.560 and then if he knew that people followed you, you 1:12:58.680 --> 1:12:59.960 know they were they were booking. 1:13:00.120 --> 1:13:02.519 But you never desired to be on like Lady b 1:13:02.680 --> 1:13:04.920 Street beat on Power ninety nine or like like what 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:05.479 was your goal? 1:13:05.600 --> 1:13:07.960 I got the radio one, you know what, I didn't know. 1:13:08.720 --> 1:13:10.880 I didn't know, Like this was weird because this was 1:13:10.880 --> 1:13:13.880 at a point in time when I'm out of school 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:16.720 and I don't tell anybody that I'm a DJ, Like 1:13:17.040 --> 1:13:17.800 what kind of DJ? 1:13:17.960 --> 1:13:18.120 You know? 1:13:18.240 --> 1:13:18.519 You were? 1:13:18.680 --> 1:13:21.160 You were a radio DJ then, so you know, my 1:13:21.240 --> 1:13:22.080 mom's friends come to. 1:13:22.240 --> 1:13:23.360 Oh, Jeff, you at of school. 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:24.080 What are you doing now? 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:28.240 You kind of like a college or you didn't okay, okay, it's. 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:29.240 Kind of like what are you doing now? It's like 1:13:29.240 --> 1:13:31.920 I'm a DJ and you don't tell somebody I do 1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:34.759 block parties and you know, house parties that I'm setting 1:13:34.800 --> 1:13:36.519 up on people's washing machines and all of that. 1:13:36.640 --> 1:13:40.559 Like that that wasn't a viable. So back then, if 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:43.639 I wanted to book Jazzy Jeff, Oh, listen, I had. 1:13:43.600 --> 1:13:46.880 My cool in eighty three or eighty. 1:13:46.320 --> 1:13:48.800 Listen, you find your man who worked at the printing store, 1:13:48.840 --> 1:13:50.639 and you would get the car and then somebody would 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:52.960 design it and you would put your home number on it. 1:13:53.840 --> 1:13:57.320 So in eighty three, how much could I book you for? 1:13:57.840 --> 1:13:57.960 Oh? 1:13:58.080 --> 1:14:00.439 Man, I was a cool thirty five hours? 1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:02.640 Wait what come on? 1:14:02.760 --> 1:14:02.920 Man? 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:04.120 We was just trying to five bucks. 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:05.959 We was trying to get money to go to McDonald's 1:14:05.960 --> 1:14:06.920 on Fortier Street. 1:14:07.960 --> 1:14:09.600 Like a COAE episode. 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:13.880 University like you wasn't getting I got to pay you 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:15.000 two hundred and fifty bucks. 1:14:15.760 --> 1:14:17.800 Man, I wish somebody paid me two hundred fifty bucks. 1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:20.559 But you wear and your kicks was right. 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:22.599 I mean listen, because I had a job. I worked 1:14:22.600 --> 1:14:23.320 at Roy Rogers. 1:14:23.400 --> 1:14:24.000 Okay, there we go. 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:26.360 You worked where? Which street? 1:14:26.439 --> 1:14:27.080 How do you think I know? 1:14:28.680 --> 1:14:30.920 I lived at Roy Rogers? Come on, I was, I was. 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:33.880 I was the chicken cook. Makes a lot of sense, now, 1:14:33.960 --> 1:14:34.400 don't it you? 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:38.600 Yes, it totally there you goes, Oh my god, this. 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:44.120 Totally makes sense. This absolutely makes sense. Now wait, you 1:14:44.280 --> 1:14:49.760 worked at that that? Yes, dude, I guarantee you, I've sixty. 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:52.080 Five percent of all my nutrition. 1:14:53.320 --> 1:14:53.639 Was a ship. 1:14:53.720 --> 1:14:55.679 I worked at the Roy Rogers, and then I moved 1:14:55.800 --> 1:14:57.800 up the street and started working for Steve's ice Cream. 1:14:59.600 --> 1:15:01.920 Ice Cream. Yeah, with the mixed man. 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:03.120 I was the king of the mixing. 1:15:03.320 --> 1:15:05.000 So y'all knew each other, but y'all don't know each 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:05.879 other obviously. 1:15:06.160 --> 1:15:06.760 I guarantee you. 1:15:06.760 --> 1:15:10.280 Ever asking for some free ice cream, He's like, no. 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:12.080 You know you all right, wait, let me let me 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.799 bring the move down real quick. Uh side note Philadelphia tribute. 1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:16.400 Uh. 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:20.799 Gary Heidnick used to oh damn you guys started frowning already. 1:15:21.160 --> 1:15:27.720 Gary Heidnick uh would often lord his the women inside. 1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:30.840 Of that Roy Rogers on forties? Really to do? 1:15:30.920 --> 1:15:32.160 What? Who is he? 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:32.479 What to do? 1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:36.599 Disorder? Are Who's Milwaukee? Yeah? 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:39.040 I hate to do that. 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:42.320 Noise, yeah, silence and lamb dude. 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.080 Who's Milwaukee? Yeah? Yeah, I'm. 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:47.519 Not. 1:15:47.720 --> 1:15:50.840 David Banner, David David. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:58.760 He got killed in jail. David the blonde everybody. Yeah, 1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:01.360 he liked it. He liked it. 1:16:01.400 --> 1:16:03.880 Brown his name. We had a we had we had 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:07.960 a version of that in Philly. I didn't know he 1:16:08.280 --> 1:16:13.680 lived at eighth and Butler at that and he in 1:16:13.800 --> 1:16:16.839 the he used the bar to Jeff. 1:16:18.720 --> 1:16:23.320 So Gary was our Jeffrey Domer side note at his trial, 1:16:23.600 --> 1:16:26.560 you know his key hip hop history, you know it 1:16:26.680 --> 1:16:28.240 was a key witness at his trial. 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:29.600 At Gary Hidnik's. 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:33.280 Trial said G from Ultra Magnetic for. 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:38.880 Some reird, weird reason either said, G used to talk 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:41.680 to this girl in Philly, but he lived. 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:44.439 Crashed in North Philly. 1:16:44.920 --> 1:16:50.880 Uh eighty six eighty seven, like between his ultramatenetic gears 1:16:50.960 --> 1:16:51.240 or whatever. 1:16:51.439 --> 1:16:56.360 But he had to for some reason. He was testifying 1:16:56.479 --> 1:16:58.880 in the in that Gary hiding truck. 1:16:59.120 --> 1:16:59.920 Yeah, that's a little weird. 1:17:00.520 --> 1:17:03.040 Yeah, why I just bring the mood down. 1:17:03.160 --> 1:17:03.920 No, it's fine. 1:17:05.640 --> 1:17:12.679 Just completely destroyed my Rory Roger days. I gave oh man, Gary, Wow, 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:14.000 I'm fixing chicken. 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:19.439 This is not funny. Just killing chicken. 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:22.240 I heard you good? 1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:30.720 So uh yeah, from doing those those central This is 1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:35.120 weird because this actually takes us back to the beginning 1:17:35.600 --> 1:17:41.760 of this conversation with pleasing yourself musically and serving. 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:50.080 The crowd musically. I noticed that, uh, there's there's sort 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:53.120 of a running theme with most of the. 1:17:53.120 --> 1:17:58.679 Guests that are on QLs in which high pressured dj 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:07.120 uh uh scenarios make better producers. Jimmy Jam would often 1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:12.040 talk about having to DJ for two thousand kids in Minnesota, 1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:16.360 but that made him more in tune to become Jimmy 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.000 Jam And of course Doctor Dre his story. 1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:21.320 Is that you know, if you played the wrong record, 1:18:21.360 --> 1:18:22.080 you could get shot. 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:24.280 Yeah, I know that part, So. 1:18:26.240 --> 1:18:26.600 I don't know. 1:18:26.880 --> 1:18:29.439 I feel like I'm in such a privileged era because like, 1:18:29.560 --> 1:18:35.320 my celebrity allows me to do silly shit, like I 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:37.040 could play a Sesame Street record if I want to, 1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:39.360 and it's like, oh, of course, loves you know, I'll 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:42.479 play the Curly Shuffle, three Stooges, shit whatever. But it's like, 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:47.560 how are you able to experiment or is it just 1:18:47.640 --> 1:18:49.320 like yo, I got to play the hottest record right 1:18:49.400 --> 1:18:52.640 now and that's it. You got, Like I assume these 1:18:52.680 --> 1:18:55.800 gigs are like three to four hours, correct, No, you do. 1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:58.760 Three to four hours. I do two. I'll do you 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:01.720 can make a point in two hours, yes, Like I 1:19:01.760 --> 1:19:04.600 can make a point however long. But it's one of 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:07.120 the most important things is for me to know how long, 1:19:07.560 --> 1:19:10.080 because for me to tell the story, I have to end. 1:19:10.760 --> 1:19:14.479 I get absolutely pissed off. I am not able to 1:19:14.760 --> 1:19:17.400 end because everything, you know, it has a beginning of 1:19:17.479 --> 1:19:21.040 middle and an end and you just you once I 1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:23.080 know how long it is, I kind of know where 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:23.280 to go. 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:25.280 But how can you tell that story in two hours? 1:19:25.320 --> 1:19:28.639 Though, because it's so it's possible to tell that story 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:31.600 in thirty minutes, like it all depends. 1:19:31.320 --> 1:19:33.800 You know, it might not like it. 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:36.000 It's not easy. 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.360 It's like it's actually harder to do it in a 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:41.920 shorter amount of time. Yes, it's hard to tell, you know, 1:19:42.120 --> 1:19:44.640 because you you don't get a chance to build up, 1:19:44.720 --> 1:19:47.760 you don't get a chance to kind of get into it. 1:19:47.880 --> 1:19:50.120 You only so when you do these gigs around the world, 1:19:50.120 --> 1:19:54.000 it's only for two hours. Yep, got even three? 1:19:54.320 --> 1:19:55.840 Well, see, you know what it is. You got to 1:19:55.920 --> 1:20:00.160 keep in mind. I play really really high impact. When 1:20:00.160 --> 1:20:03.800 you play high impact, you can't high impact people for 1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:07.680 over two hours. Like, there was so many lessons that 1:20:07.800 --> 1:20:13.240 I've learned. I remember doing an MSU homecoming and it 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:15.599 was one of those things that I just was hitting 1:20:15.640 --> 1:20:18.160 them and hitting them and hitting them, and I remember 1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:21.120 paying attention to this guy. He was a little bit 1:20:21.200 --> 1:20:23.920 heavy and he was dancing and it was almost like 1:20:24.479 --> 1:20:27.080 you were trying to get off the floor and I 1:20:27.280 --> 1:20:30.000 keep playing something that and when I tell you, he 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:33.400 was dripping and soaking wet. And it got to a 1:20:33.479 --> 1:20:36.799 point that I was like, you're not enjoying yourself anymore, 1:20:37.760 --> 1:20:41.519 Like you're at a fucking health reason, You're You're at 1:20:41.560 --> 1:20:44.120 a point that you're not enjoying. And it was kind 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:45.920 of like, wow, Jeff, you know what you have to do. 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:48.400 You gotta take people on a roller coaster ride. You 1:20:48.520 --> 1:20:51.200 got like it's cool to send people to the bar. 1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:53.600 You know what I realized a long time, like I 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:58.160 didn't come up playing reggae because like, and I'm gonna 1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:00.960 tell you why, there was so many me reggae records 1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:04.200 you get. You know, I'm coming from funk, soul rock, 1:21:04.320 --> 1:21:07.240 all the rest of this. I couldn't add reggae into 1:21:08.200 --> 1:21:11.360 my set because it was way too much and it 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:14.280 was so many rhythms that changed that it was just 1:21:14.360 --> 1:21:16.040 kind of like, you know what, I'm gonna leave that 1:21:16.240 --> 1:21:20.720 to someone else. But what I realized is if I 1:21:20.800 --> 1:21:25.000 didn't play reggae, people didn't leave who wanted to hear reggae? 1:21:25.439 --> 1:21:28.920 Once you get them in, nobody's leaving. That's the first 1:21:29.040 --> 1:21:31.720 lesson as a DJ that you have to understand, Yeah, 1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:33.920 I'm not paying twenty dollars and a DJ suck to 1:21:33.960 --> 1:21:36.559 the point that I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna be mad 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:39.680 at you, but I'm gonna stay so because I know 1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:43.559 that you're there. My job is, you know what, if 1:21:43.640 --> 1:21:47.719 you satisfy everybody in the room for forty five minutes, 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:51.600 they walk out saying I had a great time. So 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:55.479 it gives me the ability to satisfy three different groups 1:21:55.520 --> 1:22:00.200 of people for forty five minutes. Everybody walks out like, yo, 1:22:00.560 --> 1:22:04.519 he killed it, because you can't think. Case in point, 1:22:04.960 --> 1:22:10.000 how long do people dance at a wedding reception? Twenty minutes? Yeah, tops, 1:22:10.920 --> 1:22:12.560 a boy, get on the floor with the bride and 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.160 the groom. You boom boom, boom, boom boom, and it's 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:17.320 kind of like, okay, cut the cake and we out, 1:22:17.960 --> 1:22:21.439 and I'm good, like we not at the You know, 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:25.240 this ain't dance materia because people who went to those 1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:28.840 marathon dance things they went there to dance all night. 1:22:29.360 --> 1:22:32.320 That's not the average club. The average club is I'm 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:34.920 a drink, I'm gonna find a girl, and I'm ana dance. 1:22:35.960 --> 1:22:37.120 It's not it's not the whole thing. 1:22:37.560 --> 1:22:39.400 And as I'm just gonna say, as the person dancing 1:22:39.479 --> 1:22:41.519 on the floor, we appreciate the break to go get 1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:43.400 the drink, to not mess up your hair and sweat 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:45.120 your hair out and shit and be like, oh good, 1:22:45.560 --> 1:22:46.320 he's gonna let take it. 1:22:46.400 --> 1:22:46.680 Oh good. 1:22:46.680 --> 1:22:48.920 I can breathe for a second, like we just appreciate it. 1:22:49.040 --> 1:22:51.599 You know what, It's funny you said about reggae because 1:22:52.720 --> 1:22:55.080 I feel as though reggae is the one genre that 1:22:55.240 --> 1:22:56.640 will never die and that. 1:22:56.760 --> 1:22:59.040 Is universally loved by everyone. Yep. 1:22:59.479 --> 1:23:02.559 My first ten records are always the reggae records because 1:23:03.640 --> 1:23:07.280 I have to test the room. That's the one like murder, 1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:10.320 she will will never die in my lifetime, So that's 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:12.400 usually like my first record. And with the stuff that 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:14.200 Drake is doing now, that's sort of like close that 1:23:15.200 --> 1:23:17.360 it fits in. So usually my first ten records of that, 1:23:18.080 --> 1:23:21.160 and it buys me time to see. Now it's weird 1:23:21.280 --> 1:23:24.120 because I used to be the DJ that like came 1:23:24.160 --> 1:23:27.479 out the box hit hit, hit, hit, but then I learned, 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:28.120 like after. 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:29.840 Seventeen, there's fatigue yep. 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:34.280 And then I started feeling myself to the point where 1:23:35.760 --> 1:23:41.320 I got off with playing the worst shit. 1:23:41.439 --> 1:23:45.519 Ever, No, only because I knew what I had around 1:23:45.560 --> 1:23:46.000 the corner. 1:23:46.280 --> 1:23:50.840 But how great is that feeling? I tell people, it's amazing. 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:53.360 If I got two thousand people in front of me 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:57.280 and I know I got you, I know what the 1:23:57.479 --> 1:24:01.080 next five records are going to do to you? Like 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:03.400 you don't know, Like I'm sitting there like, oh my god, 1:24:03.880 --> 1:24:06.600 my ass like fast when we were in when we 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:09.920 were in Africa. And because I have this thing that 1:24:10.160 --> 1:24:14.920 I play the original of Annie Up the Soul System, 1:24:15.000 --> 1:24:16.160 so you know it's fast. 1:24:18.960 --> 1:24:19.759 And Soul System. 1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:22.400 So everybody's kind of have this look because it's kind 1:24:22.439 --> 1:24:26.320 of like you just changed the tempo, like it's almost 1:24:26.320 --> 1:24:27.320 like damn, did he fuck up? 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:28.840 And I'm playing it and you. 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:31.280 Gotta sell it like we're selling it. That's over there 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:35.479 dancing Dane dancing, and when it when it morphs into it, 1:24:36.160 --> 1:24:41.320 the look on everybody's face, oh oh shit, oh and 1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:45.959 it's pandemonium. But so when I drop that, I'm excited 1:24:46.000 --> 1:24:48.360 because I'm kind of like I'm looking at the dude 1:24:48.439 --> 1:24:50.320 just kind of like, what's he doing? Man, this dude? 1:24:50.479 --> 1:24:52.519 And I'm like, and I'm just staring straight in his face. 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:55.720 Just wait because you know, Annie up is kind of 1:24:55.840 --> 1:24:59.599 like with all the ladies, and right, yeah, that's that's 1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:00.360 the be say. 1:25:00.439 --> 1:25:06.200 For dudes, I'm sitting there like, okay, go ahead, stand 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:07.560 there with that stone face. 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:10.240 And then he loses his mind. 1:25:10.280 --> 1:25:16.280 Oh absolutely, okay, so listen. Dis inclosing because I also 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:20.040 want to get listen. You said for the record, we 1:25:20.600 --> 1:25:21.439 are doing part two. 1:25:22.040 --> 1:25:26.559 Okay, but part two gonna be real long too. We're 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:27.920 talking touch of jazz, We're. 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:31.800 Talking we gotta get to the production stuff and then 1:25:32.000 --> 1:25:34.679 but I do want to talk about the M three project. 1:25:34.760 --> 1:25:37.040 Explained to me how it came to be. 1:25:38.160 --> 1:25:40.360 I wanted this to be the last installment of the 1:25:40.439 --> 1:25:43.160 Magnificent Series, not the last record that I'm gonna do. 1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:47.120 The Magnificent Series was always a trilogy to me. I 1:25:47.200 --> 1:25:49.439 wanted to be the Magnificent return of Magnificent M three. 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:52.760 I needed to let the music industry kind of get 1:25:52.840 --> 1:25:55.760 completely out of my way. There's certain ship that just 1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:59.760 didn't make sense to me that I wanted to kind 1:25:59.800 --> 1:26:02.640 of You know, the first thing that I fixed was 1:26:02.840 --> 1:26:05.519 having your own studio. Because now I can control the 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:09.040 creative process. I can make whatever I want. Nobody can 1:26:09.080 --> 1:26:12.000 tell me that I just didn't have it down to 1:26:12.080 --> 1:26:15.000 how to release your music and get it to everybody. 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:18.720 So social media and just the changing world that we 1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:21.679 live in allowed all of that to happen, and that's 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:24.840 why I was eleven year gap between the Return of 1:26:24.880 --> 1:26:28.200 the Magnificent to this one. But I also wanted to 1:26:28.280 --> 1:26:30.960 do a record because I made the mistake by making 1:26:31.000 --> 1:26:35.640 the prototypical let me have all of these guests on 1:26:35.800 --> 1:26:38.639 my record, only to realize that there's no way humanly 1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:40.439 possible that we're ever going to do a show. 1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:42.840 Isn't that frustrating? 1:26:43.080 --> 1:26:45.160 Wow? So it just got to a point that it 1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:47.760 was kind of like, listen, I'm you know, as many 1:26:47.880 --> 1:26:50.080 dates as we're doing, how can I make this record 1:26:50.160 --> 1:26:52.920 to the point that we can go out and support you? 1:26:53.400 --> 1:26:55.040 But did you do that with the other Magnificence? 1:26:55.520 --> 1:26:58.719 Oh listen, I had method man cls move and everybody. 1:26:58.720 --> 1:26:58.800 You know. 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:02.439 It was just kind of like, yeah, so this will 1:27:02.520 --> 1:27:06.320 never be live, That's what I meant, Like the tour ever. 1:27:08.280 --> 1:27:11.080 And yeah, so you know, it was kind of like, 1:27:11.240 --> 1:27:12.800 you know, me and Dane have been on the road 1:27:12.920 --> 1:27:16.479 for six seven years. I've made fest was on the 1:27:16.600 --> 1:27:19.960 Return of the Magnificent. The funny thing was when I 1:27:20.160 --> 1:27:24.559 made the Return of the Magnificent, my son Amyra was five, 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:28.639 so you know, it was all and then just sitting 1:27:28.680 --> 1:27:31.479 down kind of piecing it together. You know, I was 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:33.600 kind of like, listen, you know what I want to do. 1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:35.800 First of all, I want to bring back the era 1:27:36.400 --> 1:27:38.120 of Cold Crush. I want to bring back the era 1:27:38.280 --> 1:27:40.639 of tried, bring back the era of Day Last Soul 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:45.719 of MC's going back and forth with each other because 1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:48.200 one of the things that I realized, especially being in DJ, 1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:53.599 is when you've been around doing a cycle. When AM 1:27:53.720 --> 1:27:55.960 and I would DJ together and we would do two 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:58.200 by four sets, which basically both of us are playing 1:27:58.240 --> 1:28:00.800 at the same time, people would lose their mind. And 1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:02.760 I'm like, I did this twenty five years ago with 1:28:02.880 --> 1:28:05.320 cash money, Like it's not new. 1:28:05.560 --> 1:28:08.360 Wait, you DJ with cash money before? Yeah, we would 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:10.599 do two by four style. I never knew that. Yeah, 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:13.120 That's why I never asked the question, Yeah, we would 1:28:13.120 --> 1:28:14.960 do that, but it's just what it did. 1:28:15.120 --> 1:28:17.080 Is it kind of let me know, when you have 1:28:17.360 --> 1:28:21.080 when the cycle has repeated itself, everything starts over. 1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:22.240 You know. 1:28:22.360 --> 1:28:24.439 It's kind of like the person who's like, oh my god, 1:28:24.560 --> 1:28:26.839 transformers and you're kind of like, oh, wow, you completely 1:28:26.880 --> 1:28:29.599 missed the cartoon. Huh, like you think it started now. 1:28:30.280 --> 1:28:34.160 So it's from knowing that. From the DJ side, I'm 1:28:34.280 --> 1:28:39.080 kind of like, you know, migos don't actually tag team 1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:41.599 when they rap, like they're not doing day La Sola 1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:44.880 cold Crush stuff, so no one understands about that. So 1:28:44.960 --> 1:28:48.600 I was like, yo, I'm just reinventing the wheel that 1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:51.679 what I think is really dope is I had three 1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:56.080 generations of MC's that I have Fest who's forty, Dame 1:28:56.160 --> 1:29:00.280 who's twenty, and am Here who's eighteen, but they all 1:29:00.400 --> 1:29:01.080 are MC's. 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:03.280 They all spit and you can hear their different perspectives 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:04.400 and the songs I was listening to it, I was like, 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:04.600 this is. 1:29:04.640 --> 1:29:08.200 Kind of like everybody's kind of like, oh man, you 1:29:08.280 --> 1:29:10.120 know is it that this is? This is kind of 1:29:10.160 --> 1:29:14.200 like I hate categorizing music. I got two categories. There's 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:17.200 good music and bad music. I don't care the genres 1:29:17.320 --> 1:29:19.519 all the rest of that ship, because you know, you 1:29:19.560 --> 1:29:22.120 would go into a tower records and you couldn't find 1:29:22.160 --> 1:29:25.200 a ship that you wanted because you classified it as 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:27.720 one thing and they classified it as something else. And 1:29:27.760 --> 1:29:29.760 I just kind of wish that the entire store was 1:29:29.800 --> 1:29:32.439 in alphabetical order, because I could probably find everything that 1:29:32.520 --> 1:29:36.400 I wanted. So it's just it wasn't genre specific, you know. 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:38.920 I took two weeks and we came in and we 1:29:39.040 --> 1:29:40.840 made all of the music. All of the music on 1:29:40.920 --> 1:29:44.840 the album is live instrumentation, and I did it in 1:29:44.920 --> 1:29:46.600 a way because it was kind of like, Okay, you know, 1:29:47.280 --> 1:29:49.200 I don't necessarily want you to know. I want you 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:51.439 to feel the music. I'm not I don't want you 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:55.519 to dissect it. And then invited Dane ron Fest and 1:29:55.560 --> 1:29:58.200 I'm Mayr to come in and Aaron Camper and we, 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:01.479 you know, recorded all the vocals and it was like 1:30:01.600 --> 1:30:01.960 that was it. 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:04.240 Shout out to Aaron Camp. 1:30:04.600 --> 1:30:09.920 Shout out to Aaron Camp. So I'm about to say 1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:14.160 and then we cheat because traveling around the world, if 1:30:14.200 --> 1:30:16.479 you watch any of the videos that we put out, 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:20.320 we cheat and shoot videos and all of the places 1:30:20.360 --> 1:30:23.519 that we go. So the first video, Skaters Paradise, which 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:27.240 is actually about traveling around the world and how some 1:30:27.360 --> 1:30:30.280 people would rather spend a thousand dollars on the strip 1:30:30.320 --> 1:30:32.400 of the dance instead of spending one thousand dollars on 1:30:32.479 --> 1:30:36.800 a trip to Japan. You know, we we cheated and 1:30:36.840 --> 1:30:38.200 shot the video all over the world. 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:39.920 That's good business. 1:30:40.920 --> 1:30:41.679 That's good business. 1:30:41.840 --> 1:30:45.400 Good business. Well, Jeff, I'm holding. 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:45.360 You to. 1:30:46.920 --> 1:30:50.280 Yes, we have two actually we have two extra episodes 1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:51.680 to do. We have to do Jeff, and then Ryan 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:53.920 Fast he got to come back to his own episode 1:30:54.640 --> 1:30:56.080 talk about how he be trying to say the world 1:30:56.120 --> 1:30:57.080 and shit exactly. 1:30:58.240 --> 1:31:00.400 Yeah, Fest, I take Fest around the world with me 1:31:00.840 --> 1:31:02.880 because he saves the world as we go. 1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:06.080 I don't. I don't. 1:31:06.479 --> 1:31:08.960 I've never been that person that just kind of ventures 1:31:09.040 --> 1:31:12.200 off and we would come down and I'll say, dang, 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:13.760 where's Fest And he was like, I don't know, and 1:31:15.000 --> 1:31:16.960 Fests just be like, yo, I just got with some 1:31:17.080 --> 1:31:19.680 people and they took me out and Kenya, and I'm 1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:22.640 kind of like, yeah, I wouldn't have did that. But 1:31:22.800 --> 1:31:26.080 Fest comes back and listen. We we were in Bali 1:31:26.200 --> 1:31:28.920 and Fest came back after being gone all day that 1:31:29.040 --> 1:31:31.400 we're almost about to send a search party out, and 1:31:31.520 --> 1:31:34.439 Fest was like, yeah, I went to a brothel and 1:31:34.520 --> 1:31:37.720 I was sitting outside talking to three prostitutes and a cop. Yes, 1:31:38.360 --> 1:31:41.080 And he had like a five hour conversation, but came 1:31:41.200 --> 1:31:47.000 back with the entire information on the country of Bali, Indonesia, Indonesia, 1:31:50.280 --> 1:31:56.479 potato potato patata. So yeah, you know, fest is our culture. 1:31:58.080 --> 1:32:01.439 Yeah, how's Obama doing? I just figure you know him. 1:32:02.600 --> 1:32:06.720 You know, actually we were having some issues in Chicago 1:32:07.760 --> 1:32:11.240 because you know, they got the the the Obama Library. 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:12.639 It's coming to the South Side. 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:16.160 It's a five hundred million dollar project, is gonna projected 1:32:16.439 --> 1:32:17.400 three billion. 1:32:17.120 --> 1:32:19.320 Dollars for the for the South Side of Chicago. 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:24.600 But Obama, who was a community organizer, wouldn't sign a 1:32:24.680 --> 1:32:29.439 community benefits agreement and that that community benefits agreement that 1:32:29.840 --> 1:32:33.320 makes sure people don't get harlemed out and brooke them out, 1:32:33.439 --> 1:32:35.519 you know what I mean. Like when you see what's 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:38.040 happening in New York, it's coming to your neighborhood soon. 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:39.679 I'm from Dcy. 1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:42.160 It didn't already happen in Chicago because where did the 1:32:42.240 --> 1:32:45.000 council voted on it today and pushed it through and 1:32:45.160 --> 1:32:50.599 so like, you know, basically, you know, the preachers and Obama, 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:52.559 they got to get like it's Obama, just trust them. 1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:54.840 And the community is like, hold on, wait this three 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:57.639 billion dollars, we need this in writing, and they're like, nah, 1:32:57.680 --> 1:32:59.640 you're not getting it in writing a lot of times too. 1:32:59.760 --> 1:33:02.720 You know what's interesting when you this is what black 1:33:02.760 --> 1:33:05.599 people got to be careful of when we make big 1:33:05.720 --> 1:33:07.120 money and do big projects. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:10.120 Who's in the middle of us in the community. It's 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:11.360 always the middle man. 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:13.240 He usually don't look like the man. 1:33:13.320 --> 1:33:14.960 He don't look like the one at the bottom of 1:33:15.000 --> 1:33:15.720 the at the top. 1:33:15.840 --> 1:33:16.360 Sometimes. 1:33:16.960 --> 1:33:21.000 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I mean Steve Cools, No, 1:33:21.120 --> 1:33:24.519 he is right now. 1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:28.200 Hey, I'm going to get him an endorsement deal with 1:33:28.360 --> 1:33:29.200 w T forty. 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:33.240 Okay, don't but you know my mix is no more 1:33:33.240 --> 1:33:35.599 because now they got a nob to make it tight 1:33:35.800 --> 1:33:36.160 or loose. 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:40.640 I heard you Ryan over there. Watch out for the 1:33:40.680 --> 1:33:43.280 middle man. You know he talks to rich people. I'm 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:45.240 not there yet, but for you and Jeff, y'all should 1:33:45.240 --> 1:33:46.120 watch out for the middle man. 1:33:46.479 --> 1:33:48.320 If you see a rich person. You know what I'm saying. 1:33:48.760 --> 1:33:51.400 I couldn't say wealthy, at least rich. Come on, Negroes, 1:33:51.439 --> 1:33:52.639 don't try to play a player. 1:33:53.720 --> 1:33:55.960 Got wind this episode so I can go to my job. 1:33:56.760 --> 1:33:58.400 You can be rich with culture. 1:33:58.479 --> 1:33:59.880 Goodbye. I can't look. 1:33:59.880 --> 1:34:01.120 I'm just spending on my mama house. 1:34:01.160 --> 1:34:02.320 That's okay. 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:09.799 On behalf of j DJ Jazzy Jeff, Ron fest Sugar, 1:34:09.840 --> 1:34:12.080 Steve Fantigolo and his countertops. 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:16.519 Oh man, I love we speak like he real salty 1:34:16.600 --> 1:34:18.840 day he didn't, Yeah he real salty is he? 1:34:19.080 --> 1:34:19.320 Yeah? 1:34:20.040 --> 1:34:24.559 His countertops exactly should have been here, but Ron that's 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:25.560 coming back. So there you go. 1:34:26.040 --> 1:34:28.840 There you go, all right, And also Unpaid Bill on 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:37.280 Testamont Street and uh uh Boss Billy Steve. Yeah, everyone, 1:34:37.520 --> 1:34:40.920 this Questbow Supreme and this Quest Love only on Pandora. 1:34:41.040 --> 1:34:42.280 We will see him the next go round. 1:34:42.320 --> 1:34:46.080 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:49.439 You hate to hear it happen, but you know that's 1:34:49.520 --> 1:34:53.240 part one of the Great Jazzy Jeff. Stay tuned for 1:34:53.479 --> 1:34:56.400 Part two, where we get more stories of his life 1:34:56.439 --> 1:35:01.679 with Will Smith making records, DJing, making music, Follownists, Passion, 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:05.920 the Greatest Ever Jazzy Jeff QLs Classic Part two coming 1:35:06.000 --> 1:35:12.760 up next time. 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