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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Hey, everybody, what's up. It's Vanessa Marshall,

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Speaker 2: the voice of Harrison Doula Specter two. Welcome to Pod

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Speaker 2: of Rebellion. We are so excited to be here today.

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Speaker 4: Thrilled to have you guys here, and we are not

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Speaker 5: It's Johny Brody, your friendly neighborhood moderator for the Potter Rebellion.

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Speaker 5: And today we're going over Star Wars Rebel Season two,

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Speaker 5: a little bit. Uh, here we go, and as always, everybody,

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Speaker 2: in both parks, he was definitely drumming it up.

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00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 5: He went Forwardingo in the booth, is what you're saying that,

436
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 5: you know, Vanessa, I know how big of a Clone

437
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 5: Wars fan you are, so can you recall what it

438
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 5: was like when you found out Honda was going to

439
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 5: make an appearance on Rebels.

440
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 8: You know, here's the thing.

441
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so when it's similar to what we already described

442
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 2: at that celebration in Anaheim when we all got to

443
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: watch the trailer for the show and they fans saw Rex,

444
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: but then the fans also saw Hondo, so as much

445
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: screaming as there was for Rex, equally, the fans were

446
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 2: freaking out, you know that Honda was back. Hondo just

447
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: cracked me up all throughout Clone Wars. I mean there's

448
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: a particular arc where he works with Obi Wan and

449
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 2: but you know, he he's totally hilarious. I was thrilled

450
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: to see him back. You just want to listen to

451
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: him and his little quippy jokes that are sort of

452
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: tucked under, like Tia was saying, So yeah, I completely

453
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: freaked out.

454
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 5: Honda reminds me of this is for the boxing fans

455
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: out there. He reminds me of Don King, the old

456
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 5: boxing promoter, you know, and and for a multipude of reasons,

457
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 5: because Don King was a very showy, very loud personality.

458
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: Even when he didn't speak, he was very very loud.

459
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 5: I've had the pleasure of knowing a lot of pro

460
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 5: boxers and Taylor, you and I were trained by a

461
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 5: former you know, Olympic champion and you know pantomweight champion

462
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 5: and Wayne McCullough. So I'd ask people about it because

463
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 5: there was Bob Aram back in the day and there

464
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 5: was Don King, And I was like, well, what's the

465
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 5: difference between the two, because that's a very confusing business

466
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 5: to be in as a boxing promoter. And Raymoncin and

467
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 5: he shout out the Ray Boom Woomansini, the former lightweight

468
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: champion of the world. He told me, He's like, well,

469
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 5: here's the difference. Bob Aram would be trying to be

470
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 5: your friend. And then at the end he would screw

471
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 5: you on the deal. Don King would to look at

472
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 5: your face, going, you don't want to screw you on

473
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: the deal?

474
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: Right?

475
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 8: And that's not like that's Hondo. He's like, you lied

476
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 8: to me. Oh, I knew I liked you.

477
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 6: He's like, I can think of someone else, like Debt.

478
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 8: Oh, here comes Taylor's hot take. Everybody.

479
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm not gonna say it.

480
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: Wait, I have no idea what you're talking about.

481
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: Oh, in the world, but Vanessa is that you'll probably

482
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: know the answer to this.

483
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 6: Then I didn't know. I thought Honda was showing up

484
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 6: in this episode in Star Wars. That was my take.

485
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 1: So when he goes, when he goes, uh uh, I

486
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: had another Jedi friend or something. Now that I'm hearing say,

487
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: is was he talking about obi Wan or Ahsoka.

488
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: Obi Wan, obi Wan and Anika or sorry obi Wan?

489
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's who when he goes, when he says that

490
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: line where he's like, oh, I can think of another.

491
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: Friend, yeah he I think he they fought Dooku and

492
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 2: then he later had issues with Grievous.

493
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 7: Got got you.

494
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure j C can regale you with the specifics. Yeah, Okay, cool.

495
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: Maybe j C could also tell us where well maybe

496
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 4: you know this Fanessa or John, where's Hondo from?

497
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: Laura?

498
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 5: Well, that that's where he was known as, right, that

499
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 5: was That's where his onaka gang was in uh In

500
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 5: Cone Wars, as I remember, if I recall correctly. But

501
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 5: this is also why we have JC.

502
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 4: Well, I just so, I'm so you I love accents

503
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: and I love dialects, and so I was just tickled

504
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 4: pink by wherever Hondo is from? Or or was it

505
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: one of those situations where where Dave was like, you

506
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: know Jim.

507
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Do you think, yeah, yeah, like you know, entrusting.

508
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: Someone with you know, of Jim's caliber to come up

509
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 4: with something really fun and really colorful and really entertaining

510
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: and interesting and unusual and like and he did. So

511
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: maybe it was one of those situations.

512
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not exactly sure. Yeah, I don't know, but

513
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: I think they know what he brings to the party,

514
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: and I mean they just kind of they trust him.

515
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: And obviously they have so much hillary together from the

516
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: Clone Wars. So I mean, if he brought back Rex

517
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: and he brought back Hondo, you know, I mean obviously

518
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 2: entails the underworld. He brought back assage Ventris, like I

519
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: love it when he does this. I love it when

520
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: he does this. So and he knows that clone war

521
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: bands love that.

522
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, I had a thought, just one. I'm

523
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 4: just kidding. We've talked about this at length. I feel

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: like over very you know, in various episodes of this podcast.

525
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 4: So what now? Ezra completely understands Chopper.

526
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: Honestly, this has been killing me. The logic of this

527
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: makes no sense.

528
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 6: Like whenever I brought this up.

529
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: Like you and Chopper are like on the level, Like

530
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 4: just a few episodes, You're like, what is he saying?

531
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, you know whatever, Like you have

532
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 4: no idea what he's saying. And now you spend a

533
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: whole day together and you're in this pickle and you're

534
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: communicating and you understand every last beepy boop and like,

535
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 4: I don't unders I don't understand when it happened.

536
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 6: This is what.

537
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I'm out there doing and while I'm scrubbing

538
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: and cleaning, which I'm glad they did that because that

539
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: was the thing. And when I was asking, like do

540
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: they go to the bathroom, do they do chores? Did

541
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: the rush their team yeah, and the fact that gives

542
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: him chores. I was like, I like that, but yeah,

543
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: I do not understand, and then I guarantee and handle

544
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: episodes I wont understand again or something.

545
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Yeah, no, for sure, I don't know

546
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: that you understand him. I know that you give him orders.

547
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: No, but I feel like in this episode, am I wrong?

548
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 4: Where like he'll like chirp, chirp, chirp something back and

549
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: he's like, no, no, yeah, because I.

550
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 6: Ask I asked, like how he got something and then

551
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 6: he says.

552
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: Something and you ununderstand it?

553
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yeah, maybe I I don't know.

554
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 7: I guess.

555
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: I also said two episodes go with the inquisitors. He

556
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: says to me, goes, wait, you understand it, remember when, right?

557
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Because ZEB does understanding, And I'm like, okay, but it's

558
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: all I'm sure people.

559
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: Like when he says like Chopper had some of the

560
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: best moments, but like when he held up one gun

561
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 2: and then the other gun, I was like, how do

562
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: you want to die this way?

563
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: Or this was so good?

564
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said exactly, but I got

565
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 2: the gist of it. So I don't know if it's

566
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: a matter of like getting a sense. But if he

567
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: did say, like if you asked a specific question, got

568
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: a beep and then understood it, then I have no answers.

569
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 8: I don't know.

570
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he did the gun thing, I imagine him saying,

571
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: say hello to my little friend, say a load to

572
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: my literal friend.

573
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't matter.

574
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: Really, that's the beauty of Chopper because no matter what

575
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna get the gist of what he's saying.

576
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: But then people, depending on who you are, like in

577
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: your humor and whatever you you fill in the lines

578
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: in different ways, which is kind of like what makes

579
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 4: him such a fun character.

580
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: That one soldier that got thrown in the air and

581
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my god.

582
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: That is that technically a Wilhelm scream?

583
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: Is that?

584
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: Well? J C could say, but that's a that's a

585
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 3: Wilhelm scream, right.

586
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,239
Speaker 8: Was it?

587
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: I don't think it was. The will is a specific.

588
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 5: I think that's just somebody doing that scream. Wie is

589
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 5: a very specific sound bite?

590
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 8: You know that was? You know that jac gave us

591
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 8: the history of that. I think. Yeah.

592
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: One other fun line when Hondo's like I'm rich and

593
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: then he's like, wait, I.

594
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: Back to the Wilhelm stream. Something can't be a Wilhelm scream.

595
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: It's just there is.

596
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's maybe if anything was probably like a homage

597
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: the Wilhelm scream, but the actual Wilhelm scream is a

598
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: specific Soundbitey.

599
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: You can either be you can either use the Wilhelm

600
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: scream or you can sort of it can be Wilhelm scream.

601
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 8: Ass, yes, let's all do.

602
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: Let's not it's early in the morning. I have a

603
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: question that maybe JC, maybe Vanessa, maybe John knows, maybe Wow,

604
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: where is this going? Does he does Hondo know that

605
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm not Lando.

606
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: No, not sure. Probably, I mean when.

607
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Like he knows and it's he's just playing along, and

608
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: then he continues on with it to a point where

609
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, here's the thing.

610
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 6: He doesn't.

611
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. I mean, he wouldn't let you know

612
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: if he did know. Anyway, he probably does. But but

613
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: the fact that he's so amazed that you lied to him,

614
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: he probably does believe you and and doesn't think you

615
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: would lie to him. He's I don't know. I don't

616
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: think it matters. But his character is such that he

617
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: would know and not and play.

618
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: You that he that he didn't.

619
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 4: But at the end, he's like so impressed that he

620
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: was lied. You know that this kid lied to him?

621
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: So I showed him I've saved. I grabbed him from space.

622
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: He had to be gone, right.

623
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: Right, I'm going to believe that. I would like to

624
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 4: believe that he genuinely bought it hook Line and Sinker,

625
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: Which is funny because you just keep picking on these

626
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: like iconic Star Wars characters to use as aliases of

627
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: the Lando Clorisian. I think he he bought it, and

628
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: then when he realized he'd been duped, he was like,

629
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: A right, you're you're not so bad with me?

630
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's pretty impressed.

631
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's more likely. But also he's the type of

632
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: person who would know that and play you. So in

633
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: a way it doesn't really matter because he's he's not

634
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: your friend, right, But so it's hard to say if

635
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: he knew or not. I mean, I'm trying to think

636
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: maybe Jada, I guess JC would know. God, he's gott

637
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: has work cut out for him, doesn't he do?

638
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 8: Well?

639
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: While we're on it, I'll give him My one philosophical

640
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: thing that I always will have on each one is

641
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: what does it mean at this time?

642
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 6: JC?

643
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Of rebels like this time in Star Wars to know

644
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: for someone to know that someone else is a Jedi.

645
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 6: Is it like like points in history.

646
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 1: In the world you wanted to hydro identity because of

647
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: what the circumstances of the world are.

648
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: Is it not that big a deal? Is it a surprise?

649
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, I didn't I thought maybe there

650
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: might be a couple, but I don't know, like currently

651
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: now I have zero clue, like it does everyone need

652
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: to hide their identity as a Jedi or what threat

653
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: is that?

654
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 6: I guess, Well, yeah, I was curious if you had that.

655
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Speaker 4: Well, it's well, it's it's a really interesting question because

656
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 4: obviously what that's in our very first episode right where

657
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: where you know they find out he's Canaan's like, I'm

658
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: about to let everyone in all the secret kid, and

659
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: then he you know, reveals that he's a Jedi, and everybody,

660
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: including Callous, is like completely stunned that there is a

661
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 4: real life's Jedi alive and well in front of them, right,

662
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: So at that time, it was obviously like Canaan wasn't

663
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: advertising the fact that he's a Jedi. So it's interesting

664
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: that you ask now because doesn't he say Hondo says, like, well,

665
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 4: what I do know is that you are a Jedi,

666
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 4: which is like a huge revelation.

667
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: So I don't know, is.

668
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: Your our our Jedi at this time in the timeline,

669
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 4: our Jedi's lives actively at risk if just anybody around

670
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: knows if they reveal themselves to be Jedi, because obviously

671
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: Order sixty six has happened and then now or doesn't

672
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 4: know that.

673
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like Canaan knows this ever you

674
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: everyone on the Ghost probably is, but unless they got

675
00:33:55,280 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: to know, does he it does Kanaan literally.

676
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: Look, I don't know if like well, on screen Canaan

677
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: did give him the story of this is what happened,

678
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: and that's why he hated the Clones. You would have

679
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: to assume that in between episodes maybe there would have

680
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 5: been more details and answer your question my own personal

681
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 5: interpretation and jac may negate all of this, which is

682
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: why we had the fact checker at the end. But

683
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: to me, it's like, this is a time where it

684
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: wouldn't be safe for you to be out in the open,

685
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 5: which is why Canaan as the collapsible lightsaber, which is

686
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: why as there was a lightsaber, I feel is like

687
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 5: disguise as a blaster that can actually also be a lightsaber,

688
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 5: you know, And I feel like it's just it reminds

689
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 5: me of like The Incredibles or Watchmen, when superheroes are

690
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: in the open, but then it came a time where,

691
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 5: like the Incredibles had to hide until they were able

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 5: to be superheroes in public. Again, that's kind of how

693
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 5: I view the Jedi in this point in like the

694
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: years before Battle of Yavin Star Wars timeline. But again, JC,

695
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 5: if this is all on negated by all means, I

696
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 5: won't be offended because I want to be correct, but

697
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: that's how I personally interpret it.

698
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: I agree.

699
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: I have a quick question. Oh sorry, go ahead.

700
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: If there are If the Clones have a chip in

701
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: their head that is programmed to murder Jedi Order sixty

702
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: six happened, I believe that chip is still there. If

703
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Hondo finds out that you're a Jedi, that's a piece

704
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: of information that he can use against you. The minute

705
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: he lets the Imperials know that you're a Jedi, your

706
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: days are numbered. The reason Canaan doesn't love the Clones

707
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 2: is because they have that chip and could kill him

708
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: at any time. He watched his master die. There's it's

709
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: not a good vibe. And definitely, if you survive to

710
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: Order sixty six, you better keep a low profile because

711
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: you're not in a good place. You're in the minority,

712
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 2: and if people know that about you, they own you

713
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: to a certain ex So I love that he said

714
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 2: it and then laughed because I was like, ugh, not

715
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: so well.

716
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: Then my question is to that is okay? So then

717
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: what was the what happened? Like? Is was there an

718
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: event that happened that then changed all that?

719
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 5: For the Jedi battle y Aven would be like that.

720
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, the death of battle y abn

721
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 5: that I would have to think.

722
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: So.

723
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: But again, Jac, now that tropparts and it really fall

724
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 5: back there, uh uh yeah, real quick. So I have

725
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 5: a question for you, Taylor, because I know at the time,

726
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, because you talked about this when

727
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: d was on, you were studying philosophy when you were

728
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 5: recording the show, and you still study for I think

729
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: we're all philosophy students one way or another. And I

730
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: see a lot of like I see Plato's allegory, I

731
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 5: see kreker Guard stages of life, I see Carl Young's

732
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 5: confronting the shadow. I see Nietzsche's a turn of recurrent.

733
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 5: So I'm sure that came to mind for you now,

734
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 5: But were you consciously thinking about that, especially at the

735
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 5: end when and of course jow So Campbell too, when

736
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: as I was like, yeah, I Hondo is kind of

737
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: like the path.

738
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Speaker 8: That I was, and I'm not that anymore. I know

739
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 8: where I'm supposed to be.

740
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 5: Was any that come into your mind at that time

741
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 5: as a philosophy student, be like, oh, this is Joseph Campbell,

742
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 5: this is this and that fuel of your performance.

743
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 6: That's such a funny question because it's it kind of

744
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 6: goes to that thing that I was.

745
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: It's a good question, that thing I was saying, like

746
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: a handful episodes where I don't know how much all

747
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: the characters we've played have affected us, Like you got

748
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: to think. I was maybe twenty one. My bachelor's greet

749
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: isn't philosophy. So I chose at that time to study philosophy,

750
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: and if it comes from some of this or if

751
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: it's the other way around. I had been setting philosophy,

752
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: and then because I would be reading during these sessions

753
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: often I remember I would just sit down and I

754
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: would be reading some of stuff that I was going through.

755
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: But then like when I hear this last scene, it's

756
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: like the last thing you'd study. I had been doing

757
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Shakespeare not long ago, and my mind's been in that,

758
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: and I saw it as like the end of Sonnets,

759
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: where there's a rhyming scheme, a couple that sums up

760
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: everything that was said, and that with Freddy, that conversation

761
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: felt like the end of like, here's where we're at

762
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean. He came in,

763
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: you met this team at the very episode one, and

764
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: then he could have gone this way, and he's saying

765
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: he's saying this way, and it's like the exact sort

766
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: of Shakespeare and structure of okay, and now we're here

767
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: and we'll go to the next one type of thing.

768
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: But I mean, the whole thing is so Joseph Campbell right,

769
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: like he could go this way and it's interesting and

770
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: I like that. He even says it's a little among those,

771
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: but he's like that old meat would have done that

772
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: and knew me does that? Like I feel like you

773
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: did get that. When he's talking with Hondo and it's

774
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: like pirate Jedi sounds pretty sick. I think he says

775
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: something of the sort, and I was even like, yeah,

776
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: that'd be really cool. But that's maybe the growth of everything.

777
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: But to your question, I think, yeah, I think you

778
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: can sort of what I'm realizing is relate everything to rebels,

779
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: whether it be philosophy or psychology or Shakespeare, any any

780
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: story sort of any decent story kind of mirrors itself

781
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: in a way. But it was definitely standing out this

782
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: because I remember the only conversations I really had with

783
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: Dave were about Joseph Campbell.

784
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 6: He was the one who told me to read.

785
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: That refuse all of the call. That's that's I mean, that.

786
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 6: Was Yeah, it's taking the next box.

787
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 8: That's awesome.

788
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: I love that, you know, and it's I'm sure it's

789
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: like you appreciate even more, like ten years removed and

790
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: all this stuff, and I still continue to study it.

791
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 8: I think.

792
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: I just think that's why shows like this are special,

793
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: because you can see like the foundation that's laid in,

794
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: But then as you grow as a person and you

795
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 5: understand a little bit more about the world than yourself,

796
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 5: you see those themes right there, and they made it

797
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 5: very accessible, like you could be someone who's you know,

798
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 5: in elementary school and you're going to get the lesson

799
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 5: because they laid after you're like, oh, I see my

800
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 5: old self and I'm not that anymore. But then as

801
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: you get older, it's like, oh, even though like he's

802
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: not using expansive vocabulary, the themes and the layering and

803
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: implications are so rich and deep that as an adult like,

804
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 5: oh wow, like using those simple words to give this

805
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 5: very complex uh evaluation, O where you are? I think

806
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: that's just really cool. And that's the beauty of this show.

807
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 5: I think, and you know, I think this show is

808
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: pretty good. I guess, is what I'm saying. You know,

809
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 5: let's talk about Visago real quick and has a quick

810
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 5: thing uh and Keith and I don't know how to

811
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: I know his first name is Keith and I'm blanking

812
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 5: on his last name, but he always just kills it

813
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: as Vizago and he's hysterical in this episode and when

814
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: he sends Chopper and Azra and the escape his guy

815
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: hate kids and me and that Bernie Mac thing where

816
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: I can't say it because we're a kid friendly show,

817
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 5: but if you look at the Bernie Mac gift for

818
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: me and you'll you'll know what I'm talking about. But

819
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 5: that's that's where my brain went, and I just thought

820
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 5: we should uh talk on that little comic relief of

821
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 5: the episode. And we also need Ezra's dual lingo score.

822
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 5: Maybe that'll shed light on why he's further along and

823
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: understanding Chopper than zeb Is.

824
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I mean.

825
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 3: We're just suddenly able to you know, understand that perfectly.

826
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I don't think you can lodge it.

827
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: What I'm realizing is I want to logic out Star

828
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: Wars and he can't do that, like the force. The

829
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: force is whatever we want it to be, seemingly, because

830
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: if you can do so many of these things physically

831
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 1: and also mentally, if you can Jedi mind trick someone

832
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: or a group of people, why could you not just

833
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: understand them. It's that to me, he goes, it's so

834
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: much easier to understand someone than to Jedi mind, you

835
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, but there aren't really rules

836
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: to it, because the biggest roles you have to false

837
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: story structure and then you know what I mean exactly

838
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: higher gyme.

839
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 6: Everything is plot's got to work.

840
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: So therefore this and I think that's why you have

841
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: such fun, fruitful lively debate within Star Wars fans and

842
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: any big fandom that keeps growing and wanting to add

843
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: pillars to the capitalist structure that is, and so when

844
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: you put them in, you gotta kind of shoehorn in

845
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: with well, we said that it works this way, but

846
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: now it's going to work that way.

847
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 5: I love you, just like Goodwile Hunting basically Star Wars

848
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 5: just with all that logic. You know, it's like you

849
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 5: forgot about Vickers, you know, work in EXAs County kind

850
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 5: of that. Let's just I'm just going to give you

851
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 5: that credit. So I think, like, I don't know, if

852
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 5: there's anything else you want to cover, Remind everybody it

853
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 5: was something.

854
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh As Morgan.

855
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 8: Hello, that's right, James Hong, Oh my god, how do

856
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 8: I forget?

857
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he you know, I love him so much,

858
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: and I just I remember, I think as I don't

859
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: know if you were a tailor sign, I don't know

860
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: if you were in New York or that was the

861
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: first time that As Morgan was the part of this,

862
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: but I know he usually joined us via Zoom, and

863
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: it was just sort of like he he was on

864
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: Zoom or the equivalent thereof at that time. But I

865
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: don't know, he just really got into it, like with this,

866
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, as far as like patting things a little

867
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: bit like Hondo. He he really just like chewed the

868
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: scenery and crushed it. But I just remember all of

869
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: us kind of going.

870
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'p had it even more.

871
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: I remember looking at Humanisa I was sitting like he

872
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: was sitting in a chair.

873
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 6: He's an older gentleman.

874
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: He's fantastic, and I was standing behind him and we

875
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: were on zoom, but I don't think he even knew

876
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: the zoom was going.

877
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 6: He was doing all this.

878
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: I remember look at you guys being like I can

879
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: feel what's happening, and it is wild is it coming

880
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: through that way? But it's then when you see the animation,

881
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: you're like, it's perfect.

882
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: It works so well between James being like that cooky

883
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 4: kind of diabolically kooky, hilarious as Morgan and Jim being.

884
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: That like just smooth like he's it's so funny.

885
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: His performance is Hondo, and then you've got Psycholorevizago. I

886
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: feel like we just had like these gem performances of

887
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: these like supporting cast members and characters.

888
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, like let him cook.

889
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: I would watch a show just the three of them

890
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 4: just bouncing around up to no good around the galaxy.

891
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 7: Yes.

892
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: Last thing that I was curious of is I saw

893
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: that a character and Skeleton Crew is Hondu and Naka

894
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: the same uh species as as the guy from Skeleton Crew.

895
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: I don't know which I want. The guy that looks

896
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: very similar as like a pirate.

897
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: Might be the same race because there were a bunch

898
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: of pirates who looked exactly like him in if you

899
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: ever watched Clone Wars, you'll see a bunch of them.

900
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: It's possible. You know, a lot of them are like

901
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: bounty hunters and scoundrels and this and that, but it

902
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean they knew each other.

903
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the music is it the first time we've

904
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: heard the do It wasn't the Rebels theme.

905
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: It was the you know what?

906
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like the like the original

907
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: Star Wars roads.

908
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: You you on?

909
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 6: Yeah?

910
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: I feel like we might have heard piccolo versions of that, Yeah,

911
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: I'd like, could be wrong.

912
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 7: I don't.

913
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 8: I don't know if anything.

914
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 5: Maybe in Spark Rebellion because that was like a direct

915
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 5: tie end to kind of bridge a gap between Star

916
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: Wars fans and non, but I don't know. That's a

917
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 5: great question because I know for sure they used the

918
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 5: Skywalker thing that I'm for sure to use that, but yeah,

919
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't even think about that. That's that's

920
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 5: a that's a JC question. And I love and I

921
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 5: love the uh the Skeleton Crew call out because that

922
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 5: was actually one of my favorite shows to release, and

923
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 5: a lot I just because I love the Goonies and

924
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 5: I love E T and that whole eighties Spielbergian sort

925
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 5: of feel, and I felt like it captured that. It

926
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: was it was fun, So I do appreciate that, and

927
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: uh what, Okay, one last thing, I just realized, like

928
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 5: we have like a Hall of Fame lineup of voice

929
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: actress present company included obviously, but you think about the

930
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 5: fact on paper you got Jim Cummings, Deep Bradley Baker,

931
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: James Hong and then Vanessa Marshall, Ain Steve Bloom as

932
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 5: series regulars, and then you got Taylor, then you got Tea,

933
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 5: then you got Freddie. This is a hall of Fame lineup,

934
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 5: like dream team of actors on this episode. It's I

935
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 5: just thought of that now, like, wow, look at this cast.

936
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 5: This is stacked and this is like episode six of

937
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: season two. That's that's awesome.

938
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's one other thing that I kind

939
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: of want to acknowledge that at the in this episode,

940
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: Ezra is questioning things. I've got Jedi practice, I've got this, ah,

941
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: come on, you know, you know, stuff like that.

942
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 4: But no.

943
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: But but what I love about Ezra is that he rebels,

944
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: or he questions things, or he doesn't just accept, oh,

945
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to Jedi school. That I love when he

946
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: wrestles with things and then comes out the other end.

947
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: I think we've had other versions of this where we're

948
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: not sure if he's going to continue being this sort

949
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: of miscrant kid who gets along fine on his own,

950
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: or if he's going to join this family to see

951
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: him go From the beginning of the episode, you know,

952
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: really not loving this experien of learning to be a Jedi,

953
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: the responsibility of at the classes and cleaning, it's just

954
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot. But that he sees Hondo so clearly as

955
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: out for himself and he says, you know, I used

956
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: to be like that, and now I have you guys,

957
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: it was for me another delightful return to my faith

958
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: in Ezra's ethical makeup. But I also really respect that

959
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: when he doesn't just accept things, he needs to kind

960
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: of wrestle with it. I mean, Rex says, what's his problem,

961
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: and Canaan says like, I don't know. This is a

962
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: new thing. So for me, I just love that your

963
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: character had so much integrity to just question everything and

964
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: is almost tempted in one second to go be with

965
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Hondo because you grew up that way to a certain extent.

966
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: But I just wanted to acknowledge that because that was

967
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: very fulfilling to watch that he sort of came back

968
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: to his family at the end of the episode. I

969
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: thought that gave me the feels. I love that.

970
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree, And I think it's cool because

971
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: now knowing where the whole show goes, I'm like, oh,

972
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: you need these to show rungs of the ladder of

973
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: being able to get to a place where you could

974
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: make a sort of ultimate sacrifice.

975
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hey, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

976
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 6: Well, you could just be sacrificing his meal. I don't

977
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 6: say what it was.

978
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was to go back to your question.

979
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 5: No, no, I was just going to say the piggyback

980
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 5: of Vanessa said, and it's like, that's reminded me of

981
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 5: like the high school Kid. It's almost like an episode

982
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: of Glee. Like I like singing, but also I'm really

983
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: good at basketball, Like which one do I do? I

984
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 5: do band practice or basketball practice? Uh, It's like it's

985
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 5: that was like my other pop culture comp but ahead

986
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 5: in the game and hit that high sea.

987
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 4: I was just gonna answer your question or I don't

988
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 4: know if it was a question, but to your point

989
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: that you were making, I genuinely like felt I mean,

990
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 4: I felt like I hit the jack pop for like

991
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: you know, I had done like a couple of voiceover

992
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 4: things where I did like one episode of Phineas and

993
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 4: Ferd That was the very first thing I ever did

994
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 4: voiceover wise. And then I did a movie which I

995
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: think I've told you about. If you like dinosaurs, please

996
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: check it out Walking with Dinosaurs.

997
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 3: Very sweet.

998
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: But so then, you know, to be on a show

999
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 4: like as a series regular on a show, an animated

1000
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: show that just happens to be Star Wars, no big deal,

1001
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 4: can't really get bigger or better than that, And then

1002
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: to be surrounded with like the talent, the caliber of

1003
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: talent every week with like you know, my my co stars,

1004
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 4: and then to like.

1005
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 3: Week after week.

1006
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: To get the types of guest stars that we had

1007
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 4: was just like, I mean, I felt like truly i'd

1008
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: like hit the jackpot or won the lottery, like to

1009
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: get I was trying, you know, to be as much

1010
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 4: of a sponge as possible and just like soak up

1011
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: as much knowledge or just just to watch, you know,

1012
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 4: their performances and see what they were able to do

1013
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 4: and the places they could go. And I say, they,

1014
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 4: I'm talking about all of these guys. But then you know,

1015
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: then we get Dee or James Arnold Taylor or you

1016
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: know Jim who can do like one million voices and

1017
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 4: you know it's just the And then you've got like

1018
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: David o' yellowo is far callous, like and he came

1019
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: in and recorded.

1020
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: Did he record with us? You guys? Yeah? And I

1021
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: was like, what's happening this? I mean, what is happening?

1022
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 4: This is just amazing to be surrounded with like such

1023
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 4: incredibly talented and gifted voiceover actors on camera actors people

1024
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: who do both. You know, we like to not differentiate here,

1025
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 4: but and then just like really really nice people. They

1026
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: all turned out to be really really nice people. It's

1027
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: kind of hard to believe, So I agree with you, John.

1028
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 3: It was always just.

1029
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: Like just banger after banger would be like, who's coming.

1030
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: The only thing is that.

1031
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 4: I feel like Dave didn't trust us with a couple

1032
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: people like James Earl Jones did not. He did not

1033
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: let him.

1034
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 6: Record New York. He was in New York Theater at

1035
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 6: the time.

1036
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah.

1037
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: And then Billy d Williams. We were like, let's cool,

1038
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: are we recording with him? And he was like, no,

1039
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 4: absolutely not, you are not. I felt like there were

1040
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: certain people that he was like, I'm not gonna I'm

1041
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,919
Speaker 4: not gonna subject this person.

1042
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: To this group.

1043
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 5: But I think also Billy de was on Dance with

1044
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 5: the Stars and I'll do the thing over there. That's fine,

1045
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 5: that's so cool. I love that, And I imagine you

1046
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 5: know that had to serve to you. And one because

1047
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 5: you obviously continued doing voiceover roles but also live action roles,

1048
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 5: and because to me it's like the voice is so powerful.

1049
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 5: Obviously an animation because that's going to fuel everything going there,

1050
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: but like live action too, Like I'm always drawn to

1051
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: actors who have like obviously interesting faces and features, but

1052
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 5: their voices, like the voices drive everything, and I would

1053
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: imagine being in this like masterclass with these power players

1054
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 5: was like, oh, I even know more ways to level

1055
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 5: up and layer what I'm doing on camera, and I

1056
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 5: think that's just so cool.

1057
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I mean, there's such different animals.

1058
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys would agree, there's such

1059
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: different animals, and you utilize such different parts of your

1060
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: kind of toolkit, I guess, but certainly there's like one

1061
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: informs the other and vice versa.

1062
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: Like there's you know ways that I feel like.

1063
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 4: Playing Subine for all those years, only getting to use

1064
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: my voice was really helpful to you know, which is all.

1065
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: It's all helpful, right, it's all. It all informs the

1066
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: rest of what you do, and it's all like additional

1067
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: tools in your toolkit.

1068
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely, And getting just just just as a.

1069
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: Fan to get to see, to get to like an

1070
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: up close look at these performances was such a gift.

1071
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine when you get to see the masters up close,

1072
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 5: it's cool. It's like, I don't know if you've ever

1073
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: been able to watch like an NBA or NFL practice

1074
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 5: up close and it's like wow, like you see why

1075
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 5: this is the one percent, you know what I mean,

1076
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: Like you don't understand its really see it up close.

1077
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 5: But then once you see, like holy let alone working

1078
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 5: with it and seeing their process, and it's just so

1079
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: inspiring but also motivating, and it gives you something tangible

1080
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: to look at to go, oh, I know how to

1081
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 5: level up now, Like I can visibly see the other

1082
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: level that I can build towards. And you have all

1083
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 5: you know, masters of their class setting the example. So

1084
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 5: which is something we can all take an hour of

1085
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 5: a day life, I think to bring it back to philosophy,

1086
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 5: uh and all that good stuff. So I think it's

1087
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 5: I think it's that time. I think hopefully Jac's had

1088
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 5: enough time behind the scenes to compile of his notes.

1089
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 5: It's time for fact check with our guy JC. Here

1090
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 5: comes the next hour of the show. Because you've got

1091
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: a lot.

1092
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 7: Okay, I apologize, I have I have the baby again today,

1093
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 7: so she may start yelling, but we'll try to get

1094
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 7: through this quick.

1095
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 5: If you get a fact wrong, she's gonna.

1096
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 7: The thing I noticed, the one note I had on

1097
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 7: the show, which I'm sure nobody else in the world noticed,

1098
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 7: is when Ezra steals the ship and is taking off,

1099
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 7: he flies past a ship. Did anybody clock what ship

1100
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 7: that is?

1101
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 3: I saw that past the ship, But yeah, I know.

1102
00:54:54,080 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: But I want you to say JC, yeah, I don't

1103
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 6: want to trust me, you.

1104
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: Don't want to steal J.

1105
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 7: Well, it's a Soro sub corporate personal luxury three.

1106
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 6: Thousand corporate person area.

1107
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 7: Now why is that?

1108
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 2: That's not a word?

1109
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 7: Here's here's sure you got it. But here's why it's

1110
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 7: so interesting. And this is how you know that the

1111
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 7: people who made rebels behind the scenes were on it.

1112
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 7: That is the model of ship that Lando Kelisian flies

1113
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 7: in the Star Wars Legends. Timothy's on books called the

1114
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 7: Lady Luck, so Ezra literally flies by Lando's ship the

1115
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 7: Lady Luck on his adventure and then uses the name

1116
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 7: Lando Kelorisiane.

1117
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: That's the coolest part of this entire episode what you

1118
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: just said, and that is stuff that I'm obviously right

1119
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: over my head.

1120
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 6: That's incredible, Lady lady.

1121
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Timothy's on In the air to the Empire series,

1122
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 7: Glenn Davis did go to LSU. You guys mentioned the

1123
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 7: Millennium Falcon Ride. The proper name is Smuggler's Run.

1124
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 6: Smugglers.

1125
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,959
Speaker 7: We talked about Hondo, so Hondo is a week Way

1126
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 7: from the planet sree Lure, which is uh not the

1127
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 7: same as Florum, which is the planet where his pirate

1128
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 7: base was. Week Ways come from a harsh desert planet,

1129
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 7: which is why they were kind of like Jaba's henchman,

1130
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 7: because Tatuin is a harsh desert planet. The I believe

1131
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 7: that Hondo and his vocal patterns we never we met

1132
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 7: Weekways in Return of the Jedi, but I think Hondo

1133
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 7: is the first one to ever speak, so Jim was

1134
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 7: not taking something that had happened before. This seems as

1135
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 7: if it was a invention of Jim and Dave Filoni

1136
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 7: at some level of each random fact, because I know

1137
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 7: we all are. We all like to think of ourselves

1138
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 7: as intellectuals. The name we Quey was dubbed such for

1139
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 7: that species, based on creek Way from Herman Melville's Moby Dick.

1140
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 9: Whoah, yeah, but just because just that they were originally

1141
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 9: called like creeek Ways on the set of Return of

1142
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 9: the Jedi, and then when Pablo Hidelgo or whoever went

1143
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 9: in and named.

1144
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 7: The species, they just changed it to a week So

1145
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 7: we quay. Yeah, that does Hondo know that Ezra is

1146
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 7: not Lando? Well? If he was paying attention to the episode,

1147
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 7: he'd know that Lando's ship flew by, and but I

1148
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 7: don't think he was. My gut was that he didn't

1149
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 7: know specifically. But obviously Lando at this point is notorious

1150
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 7: enough in the underworld as a name, but likely his

1151
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 7: image isn't all over the place, you know, like think

1152
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 7: about us. We all know who al Capone is, but

1153
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 7: have you ever seen an image of al Capone that

1154
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 7: wasn't like Robert de Niro from The Untouchables. Probably not,

1155
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 7: so I think that he probably thought it was plausible

1156
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 7: that this was Lando and was going to go with

1157
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 7: it until otherwise. Just for the people paying attention at home,

1158
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 7: Lando and Hondo actually do meet about a year after

1159
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 7: the Battle of Yavin on the Halcion Galactic star Cruiser

1160
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 7: in Halcion Legacy, episode four comic book. So they did

1161
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 7: meet and go on a little adventure together on board

1162
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 7: the Galactic star Cruiser, which we all could have gone

1163
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 7: on at some point, and I did go on, which

1164
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 7: was a podcast for another episode Life Changingly Awesome. But

1165
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 7: so they did meet, but they meet a few years

1166
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 7: after the events that take place in this episode. Taylor,

1167
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 7: you would ask how do you know if someone is

1168
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 7: a Jedi at this point.

1169
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 6: Or like, what does it mean?

1170
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 8: What is the threat?

1171
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 7: So, as Vanessa touched on, Hondo spent time with Jedi.

1172
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 7: So a lightsaber, telekinesis all of those things, Hondo is

1173
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 7: going to look at that, and I'd be like, Oh,

1174
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 7: this is a magic trick. He's going to look at

1175
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 7: it and be like, Oh, I know Jedi and you're

1176
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 7: a Jedi. Then we talked about did Jedi need to

1177
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 7: hide their abilities? What's the threat? And again for people

1178
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 7: listening at home, I'm pulling a lot from like Legends

1179
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 7: and pre million Disney comic books, but I would compare

1180
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 7: being a Jedi right now almost to be like a

1181
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 7: Jewish person in nineteen forty two Germany, where you don't

1182
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 7: want anybody to know that you are you have these

1183
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 7: abilities because you will be hunted and you will be killed.

1184
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 7: And you see a little bit of that in Tales

1185
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 7: of the Underworld with Oris Singh and that Jedi kid

1186
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 7: that is in that. But you also have to think

1187
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 7: that most people in the galaxy have never crossed paths

1188
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 7: with a Jedi. If there are millions of worlds and

1189
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 7: tens of thousands of Jedi. You're probably never going to

1190
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 7: cross paths with that. You know, think like how many

1191
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 7: how many people in the United States cross paths within

1192
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: a list celebrity? Not very many, right, you see them

1193
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 7: on TV. Hear about it a coffee. But yeah, yeah,

1194
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 7: but you're not You're not going to know. So then

1195
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 7: when the Empire takes over and it's been a handful

1196
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 7: of years, and I'm sure there's no historical precedence for

1197
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 7: this whatsoever, but like you can start to erase history. Hey,

1198
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 7: you've never met a Jedi. The Jedi were construct of

1199
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 7: the Old Republic to keep you in line. Jedi weren't real.

1200
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 7: Those weren't magic abilities. It's like the Ghostbusters they use

1201
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 7: light show and things like that. The Jedi are not

1202
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 7: a thing. Because nobody knew that Palpatine was a Sith Lord,

1203
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 7: and Darth Vader was not the vice president of the

1204
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 7: Empire like Grandma Tarkan was more in that. Darth Vader

1205
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 7: was kind of like the boogeyman of the Empire, and

1206
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 7: you know, maybe you heard about him, but he was

1207
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 7: not front and center in public Holinnet broadcasts. So you know,

1208
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 7: at this point, again, like Tia you mentioned, you know,

1209
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 7: Canaan's hiding. Why do you think Canaan takes his lightsaber

1210
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: apart so it doesn't look like a lightsaber on his belt,

1211
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 7: looks like a calmlink and a whatever.

1212
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: Is.

1213
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 7: I think being a Jedi at this point is a

1214
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 7: very very serious thing that you don't want anybody to know.

1215
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: It makes it even cooler than whenever like that in

1216
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: the early episode he does pull it out, or anytime

1217
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: they expose it because there it's a real danger.

1218
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 6: To do that.

1219
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1220
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're risking their lives.

1221
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1222
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 7: Joh. You guys mentioned Visago, John you mentioned Keith was

1223
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 7: his first name. I'm going to butcher his last name,

1224
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 7: trying to spell it. Last name is Zara Baca s

1225
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 7: z a r A b A j k A place

1226
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 7: vis Ago. We talked about languages again and Chopper and

1227
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 7: uh not trying to head like out logic the plot.

1228
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 7: I will say there is president to show that the

1229
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 7: Force can help you translate foreign languages to you, and

1230
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 7: I think a lot of that. And what they talk

1231
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 7: about is that the Force connects you to other living

1232
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 7: things on an emotional level. Right, life creates it makes

1233
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 7: it grow so in a way like if you and

1234
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 7: I experience emotions in the same way. It makes it

1235
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 7: easier for me to Jedi mind trick you. It makes

1236
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 7: me easier for me to understand what you're saying, even

1237
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 7: if I don't understand the nuance. Perhaps I don't get

1238
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 7: the joke you're telling, but I know what you're trying

1239
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 7: to get at when you're communicating through the force, which,

1240
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 7: to take it one step further is why why is

1241
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 7: it so difficult for you can't Jedi mind trick a hut.

1242
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 7: You can't Jedi mind trick a toyd Arian like Watto.

1243
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 7: Why is that? Well, it's perhaps the way that they

1244
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 7: experience life and emotions and connect to life is so

1245
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 7: divergent from the way that like Obi Wan Kenobi or

1246
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 7: Luke Skywalker another humanoid does that you can't bridge that gap. Well,

1247
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 7: that's cool.

1248
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: Interesting, So you would you? Sorry? Do you mind if

1249
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 3: I ask you a quick question? Does that mean? Like it?

1250
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 4: It's what you're saying is true? Which I believe everything

1251
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 4: you tell us uh to be. You know, the gospel,

1252
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: basically the Star Wars Gospel. So does that mean that Taylor, Taylor, Sorry,

1253
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: now I'm doing it in reverse, that Ezra's connection to

1254
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 4: the force or his you know, ability to you know

1255
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 4: that his force sensitivity is is growing exponentially, and that's

1256
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 4: why suddenly he can understand Chopper, because not to not

1257
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 4: too long ago, he'd be like, what did this guy say?

1258
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: What's he saying? Blah blah blah.

1259
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: And now they're just like conversing, having full on conversations

1260
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: in the middle of like a needing to escape and

1261
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: you know, blah blah blah.

1262
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: And and they are both able to communicate with each other.

1263
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 4: So is that because he is getting stronger with the

1264
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: force or the force is stronger in him.

1265
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 6: He couldn't even grab anything and I can hold someone.

1266
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I will say a couple of things vious legends

1267
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 7: cannon droids are not alive. Thus they are invisible in

1268
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 7: the force, and you would not be able to gain

1269
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 7: that ability to understand adroid or something through the force

1270
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 7: because the forces of energy feel created by all living things.

1271
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 7: Life connects, it makes it grow, So a robot would

1272
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 7: exist outside of that. However, in Disney canon, that kind

1273
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 7: of was swept away. What I think we can find

1274
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 7: the happy medium is is Ezra's just been with spent

1275
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 7: a lot more time with Chopper, right and it's like

1276
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 7: I have a six month old baby who's yelling over there.

1277
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 7: I start to understand what the baby is saying and

1278
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 7: needs based on the fact that I've been with them

1279
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 7: for six months instead of one month, or similar to

1280
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 7: like a dog, right, you know how you just sometimes

1281
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 7: know what your dog needs or oh you're not like, hey, Taylor,

1282
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 7: I think your dog needs to go for a walk.

1283
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 7: Oh no, he just wants to eat. How do you

1284
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 7: know that? But you just know based on proximity and

1285
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 7: time spent with them. So there's my happy medium to

1286
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 7: bridge the gap between my retcon, my Star Wars story

1287
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 7: team explanation for that, and then the last thing we have, Taylor,

1288
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 7: you asked about Skeleton Crew. The character you were referencing

1289
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 7: is named Vain. Vain is a Nitgo nickto, not a

1290
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 7: week Way. You can differentiate, and it's a little confusing

1291
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 7: because Honda's always wearing a hat. A Nitgo is also

1292
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 7: part of job as stooges, but they have horns on

1293
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 7: their head and are Reptilian, whereas a week Way is

1294
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 7: like a really really bad, like South Beach type tan

1295
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 7: leathery skin wrinkle.

1296
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 6: When I thought I couldn't like Hondo, more.

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Speaker 7: The character Vain also appears in The Mandalorian First and

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Speaker 7: there's an episode of The Mandalorian where his kind of

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Speaker 7: Mandalorian pirate gang goes gets wiped out, and then he

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Speaker 7: goes and must join Crimson Jack's Mandalorian gang for Skeleton Crew.

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Speaker 2: One quick question back on the Jedi and needing to

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Speaker 2: keep a low profile, is Ezra aware of that? I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, given that Canaan just explained his trauma in

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Speaker 2: the in the episode with Rex, I thought he would

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Speaker 2: be aware and and sort of deduced from that, like, wow,

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Speaker 2: you know that we're not We're I don't know, because Ezra,

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Speaker 2: you asked if he understood all that. I mean, Taylor, Sorry.

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Speaker 7: Here's I mean, here's my here's my again, my head

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Speaker 7: cannon explanation for it is that Ezra I got I

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Speaker 7: almost screwed it up again. Ezra at this point is

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Speaker 7: fourteen years old. Fifteen years old. I know when I

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Speaker 7: was fourteen or fifteen, I was invincible. I was like,

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Speaker 7: I'm on a plane. If this plane crashes, everybody's going

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Speaker 7: to die but me. This does not apply to me.

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Speaker 7: I am invincible. I know everything about everything there is

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Speaker 7: to know, look at all of these great abilities I have.

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Speaker 7: Now I have a gun lightsaber in my hand. Who

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Speaker 7: out there? What little person out there without these abilities?

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Speaker 7: Is my abilities are growing so fast? Is going to

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Speaker 7: be able to Who do I have to worry about

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Speaker 7: because he doesn't have the weight of life behind him

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Speaker 7: that Canaan does to be like, Oh no, what you

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Speaker 7: don't understand is I lived through the slaughter of thousands

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Speaker 7: of Jedi. I watched it with my own eyes. This

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Speaker 7: can happen, and it can happen by clones who who

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Speaker 7: We're grown in a lab. You don't need this is

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Speaker 7: just you can be out numbered, you can be this,

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Speaker 7: You can be this. So I think it's more like

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Speaker 7: youthful arrogance than it is, uh, you know, not understanding,

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Speaker 7: not intellectually understanding the threat that it poses.

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Speaker 2: Got it cool? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Wow, JC, we really are well, Don really, you gave

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Speaker 4: you a lot and you crushed it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 6: No surprise there will don JC.

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Speaker 5: Can I appreciate your Stanley Kubrick like noncommittal answer to

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Speaker 5: some of those things? You know, you left it out

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Speaker 5: in the open, as supposed to Spielberg, who likes to

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Speaker 5: just wrap it up. You did find a happy meeting

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Speaker 5: between those two, So yeah, that's good. And I like

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Speaker 5: that you ended on the whole arrogance and ignorance of

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Speaker 5: youth sort of thing. I think that's an important lesson

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Speaker 5: to take out of it, because sometimes as a younger person,

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Speaker 5: when someone more experienced you may have been the same field,

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Speaker 5: tries to tell you like, hey, lit's this is my experiences.

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Speaker 5: You can't understand it until you experience it yourself sort

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Speaker 5: of thing. And I think, if I'm not mistaking, and

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Speaker 5: that's what you're alluding to just now. But also it's

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Speaker 5: something that as I've gotten older, I realized, oh, that's

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Speaker 5: what they.

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Speaker 8: Meant when they were telling me this. Yeah, when you

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Speaker 8: get older twenty years old.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a lot of reflection that takes place right

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Speaker 7: where you're just like, oh ah, I was told that

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Speaker 7: by somebody, but I really just made it, made myself

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Speaker 7: learn it the hard way, didn't I yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: D a million times, But until I touched it, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the one for me is just like my

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Speaker 7: grandfather told me when I was twenty one, He's like,

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Speaker 7: start saving money now, invest money now. And I was

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Speaker 7: like I know everything. I'll be rich, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: And then you're at like, all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 7: thirty nine years old and you're like, oh, well, it's

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Speaker 7: this camera is getting really heavy on my back. I

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Speaker 7: don't know how lo is it longer? I'm going to

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Speaker 7: be able to shoot events all day. I wish I

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Speaker 7: had some money in the bank, right, But when you're

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Speaker 7: twenty one, I had told me.

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Speaker 8: Ira and VT side.

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Speaker 6: So this is for early kids out there. Invest your

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Speaker 6: money now.

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Speaker 5: And there's our financial lesson from our fact checker JC.

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Speaker 5: To cap it all off, We're just going to keep

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Speaker 5: having subcategories. Well, this was well, you know, it's funny

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Speaker 5: with the episode was pretty light. It's not like a

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Speaker 5: lot of big things happened. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: the layering and and everything with it. I thought this

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Speaker 5: was going to be a quick episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 5: We ended up a lot more to talk about. So

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Speaker 5: I think that's just goes to testament to the writing,

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Speaker 5: but also just everything that everyone puts into it.

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Speaker 8: So quick shout out.

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Speaker 2: There were a couple other people this weekend in Houston.

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Speaker 2: There's an incredible artist named Anna who sometimes has even

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Speaker 2: further fact check information, and I invited her in person

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Speaker 2: to give us further fact check in. But we were

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Speaker 2: looking to her during our panel that we did. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember what exactly the detail was to. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you remember.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I remember, hi, Anna, if you're listening the oh

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Speaker 4: we were doing a panel and our moderator asked, was

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Speaker 4: Sabine royalty j The answer is no, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: they were like a noble family, the Rens, but they

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Speaker 4: weren't technically royalty like Stine or whatever.

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Speaker 7: I don't think so. I mean Kreese is the the

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Speaker 7: lineage right, Satin and Bocatan and all of that. But

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Speaker 7: also I mean I'm not sure, but is Mandalorian kind

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Speaker 7: of like most royalty where it's a little inbred to

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Speaker 7: the point that you're like, well.

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Speaker 6: That makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: I've been trying to figure this character out for a minute,

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Speaker 1: no kidding, And.

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Speaker 7: Could you trace the linea sure?

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Speaker 6: I wonder why they wear helmets.

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Speaker 2: Well, anyway, Anna, you can Anna, you can always at

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Speaker 2: us moving forward with any further information that you have

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Speaker 2: that you know, if we left any stone unturned. I

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Speaker 2: we love interacting with fans. We love getting sports jerseys

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Speaker 2: that are going to help us have more fun at

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Speaker 2: a convention. If anyone has any ideas or anything like that,

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Speaker 2: we're open our email again. John is part of Rebellion

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Speaker 2: at Gmail or part of a rebellion podcast, is that right?

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Speaker 8: The second what part of rebellion podcast at gmail?

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Speaker 4: Gmail? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So everyone keep continuing to write in and give us feedback, questions,

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Speaker 2: all that good stuff because we love communicating. So thank

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Speaker 2: you for that, Anna, and we look forward to seeing

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Speaker 2: you soon and thank you for your gifts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, love that.

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Speaker 5: Thank you Mike Kennedy too, and also to our listeners,

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Speaker 5: think of the football equivalents of the characters, because I

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Speaker 5: think that's a fun exercise. And Mike Kennedy, if you're

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Speaker 5: gonna make football jerseys, my one request I would have

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Speaker 5: and I don't want to speak on half anybody else here,

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Speaker 5: but if you're going to get football jerseys, I prefer

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Speaker 5: the lineman cut. And if you are a football player,

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Speaker 5: you know what that means. The lineman cuts the ones

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Speaker 5: that are elastic here and it's a little more you know,

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Speaker 5: cut off, like that's the cut you want. Usually the

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Speaker 5: standard cuts like a T shirt cut.

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Speaker 2: The more.

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Speaker 5: I learned this my freshman year at Illinois. When one

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Speaker 5: of the savvy seniors is like, yo, make sure you

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Speaker 5: ask for the lineman cut.

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Speaker 8: Like what you mean, He's like, just trust me.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, those are the ones that look cooler

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Speaker 5: with the shoulder pads and everything. So always asks for

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Speaker 5: the lineman cut. There's a little football jersey hack for

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Speaker 5: the day. But until then, I think, and now we know,

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Speaker 5: and knowing is half the battle. I can't say the

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Speaker 5: last part because I think that's protected by IP, so

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Speaker 5: we'll just say the magic words that Taylor gets his

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Speaker 5: out on you.

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Speaker 6: The music.

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Speaker 5: Otto Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcast Producing

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Speaker 5: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, TiO Surkar, Taylor Gray and Johnny

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Speaker 5: Brody Executive producer and and how Star Wars guru slash

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Speaker 5: factchecker J C. Reifenberg. Our music was composed by Mikey Flash.

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Speaker 5: Our cover art was created by Neil Fraser of Neil

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Speaker 5: Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Holly Frian, Aaronkauffman over at iHeart,

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Speaker 5: Evan Krastglorie Willie Morris, Endeavor, Trasy Canobio, George Lucas for

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Speaker 5: creating this universe we love so much and of course

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