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Speaker 1: pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch. Well, it is a game week

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Speaker 1: edition of the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Kyle, we have

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Speaker 1: not been able to say that since January. Okay, it's preseason,

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Speaker 1: but it's still a game. As you get into week

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Speaker 1: three training camp, I'm beginning to feel like a lot

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Speaker 1: of the players just need to see a different colored

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Speaker 1: and discussions on Yeah. Absolutely, for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 1: One we saw another little and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: on the field today. So you do get sick of

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Speaker 1: you said, I'm sure the players are looking forward to

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Speaker 1: playing against other people. You, I, everybody else, every Cardinals

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Speaker 1: another team, regardless of how you feel about preseason games

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Speaker 1: intrigued about some of these younger players to see because

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Speaker 1: carry over to a game type atmosphere. Yeah. It's one

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Speaker 1: thing to do it in practice in front of very

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Speaker 1: the next part of the evaluation Friday coming up on

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Speaker 1: four thirty. In the afternoon on Friday, Cardinals at the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. But you referenced Tuesday's practice full pads,

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Speaker 1: which is always good to see, but once again, a

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Speaker 1: what the numbers have been, and we just feel like

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Speaker 1: if we continue to play the way that we play

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Speaker 1: and the guys that have gone before them, you know,

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Speaker 1: the standard they set. If the next guys come up

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Speaker 1: and continue to build on that culture, then those numbers,

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Speaker 1: numbers will come affecting the quarterback with the rush obviously

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Speaker 1: could help the back end as well. How much are you?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're all working together, but looking at all? Right,

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Speaker 1: if we can get to that quote back quicker, then

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Speaker 1: they've got less time to look, and obviously the guys

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Speaker 1: have less time to cover the wide receivers out there.

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Speaker 1: You kind of work in tandem. I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: like the chicken in the egg. What comes first? You

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Speaker 1: need good pass rush or good secondary. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: they work hand in hand. There's a couple couple one

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Speaker 1: liners on that, you know, the cornerstones or a three

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Speaker 1: four defense. Our rushers in corners. You know, every good

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Speaker 1: three four over the history of the game has had

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Speaker 1: both of those. And then we like to say it's

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Speaker 1: a rush between the pass rushing coverage. Can we get

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Speaker 1: home before their coverage breaks down and they cover? Can't

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Speaker 1: they cover long enough to let us get home? So

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Speaker 1: we definitely operate accordingly knowing that that's how they work together,

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Speaker 1: and the passing game, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: is all about timing. So a good rush, a good

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Speaker 1: coverage is not always an resulting in an interception or sack.

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Speaker 1: Is did we disrupt the timing? And so our our

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Speaker 1: goal as a rush unit is we got to do that.

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Speaker 1: If it results in a sack, great, But we can

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Speaker 1: move the quarterback off the spot, get them to you know,

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Speaker 1: reset in the pocket, or take his eyes off his

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Speaker 1: primary read that type of thing. So for sure they

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Speaker 1: work together. So talked to large degree about Saxon. I

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Speaker 1: could talk about rushing the quarterback all day, but you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that kept popping up last year

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Speaker 1: was just some of the holes in the run defense.

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Speaker 1: And is there certain things that you're doing adjustment wise,

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Speaker 1: alignment wise, scheme wise to account for that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the outside linebackers are a huge part of that, setting

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Speaker 1: a hard edge in the run game being a part

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Speaker 1: of that front. Is there certain things that you're doing

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Speaker 1: in camp this year a little bit different to emphasize

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Speaker 1: stopping the run, putting teams in second, in third, and long,

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Speaker 1: to give yourself an opportunity to rush the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: would say, you know, technique wise, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a continuation of training the techniques that we've we've

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Speaker 1: trained you know for a long time, but we have

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Speaker 1: put an emphasis on just hearing the call, getting the call,

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Speaker 1: and executing at all level veterans on down, you know,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes younger players who had to play last year,

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Speaker 1: you know, as they're getting a field for the scheme

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Speaker 1: and that type of thing, some of the looks that

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Speaker 1: they see or reactionary elements of the game that they're

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Speaker 1: exposed to can be ought, you know, for them. So

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Speaker 1: I think some of that was you know, just younger

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Speaker 1: guys working through it. But you know, we just feel

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Speaker 1: like if we keep pushing, you know, with more time

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Speaker 1: on task, well we'll be fine having fun out there.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's a great time of year. It's all ball,

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Speaker 1: all the time. Charlie, we appreciate it. We can keep

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Speaker 1: you for the entire hour here, all the rest of

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Speaker 1: the hour here, but I know you got a lot

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Speaker 1: of work to do, but we appreciate a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciate you, guys. Charlie Bullen, outside linebackers coach for

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Speaker 1: your Arizona Cardinals. When we come back. More from Cardinals

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Speaker 1: training camp, Powered by Cox here on the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Radio Network. JJ Watt in the backfield with the takedown

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Speaker 1: penetration on the backside, that is J J Watt, baby,

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Speaker 1: tip and complete. It was tipped and it was JJ

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Speaker 1: Watter Who's got it? And the Cardinals stop him on

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Speaker 1: purchdown again. I think I'm always on, but he is

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Speaker 1: always on. Like I've never seen that guy not be

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Speaker 1: dialed in, intense, locked in, know the right thing to say,

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Speaker 1: go as hard as he can go. It's like I

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Speaker 1: don't know some superhuman type qualities that he's got. Just

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Speaker 1: didn't make sure JJ Watt is on the field for

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Speaker 1: all seventeen games this season. That's the key, as we

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Speaker 1: walcome me back here to the Cardinals Red Sea Report

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Speaker 1: presented by SIK get your seat in a seat Craig

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Speaker 1: Reel Lou and Kyle Vannibosh. Special thanks by the way

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Speaker 1: to outside linebackers coach Charlie Bullen for joining us here

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Speaker 1: and giving us a couple of minutes of his time,

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Speaker 1: specifically to talk about those young players Cameron Thomas, my

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Speaker 1: j Sanders and Jesse Looketta. Looking forward to seeing those

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Speaker 1: guys in action on Friday. We will not see J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt in action on Friday. Haven't been told anything, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not expecting to see Number ninety nine on

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Speaker 1: the football field. I'd much rather see him week one

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Speaker 1: because let's not forget he was only on the field

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Speaker 1: for seven games they won all seven last year. Didn't

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Speaker 1: have the stats, but teams have to account for Number

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, even at his age where he is as

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Speaker 1: far as experience, because he can still make things difficult

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Speaker 1: for offenses. Now there's no question he is. You know,

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Speaker 1: at least in my lifetime, he's on the mount rushmore

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Speaker 1: of defensive linement. I mean, he He's done some amazing

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Speaker 1: things throughout his career, and you know, going into a

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Speaker 1: season healthy, you still expect that type of production from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talked about how because of the shoulder injury,

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Speaker 1: and you know his remarka will come back to make

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Speaker 1: it back for the playoff game. He only played seven games,

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Speaker 1: but even prior to that, he was dealing with an

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Speaker 1: injury and training camp and it took him some time,

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Speaker 1: I mean to get his legs back to get a

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Speaker 1: field for the game. And you could really see prior

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Speaker 1: to that shoulder injury he was really starting to make

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Speaker 1: a bigger impact on games and getting back to his

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Speaker 1: old form. So it's important. I mean, you see it

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Speaker 1: out here in training camp. You see him doing some

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Speaker 1: of the things that only JJ Watt can do, so

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Speaker 1: a lot like we talked about with Kyler, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's vitally important that he enters that first regular season

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Speaker 1: game feeling good, feeling healthy, and ready to be the

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt that we all hope he can be. And

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Speaker 1: it's been fun watching Watt during eleven on eleven because

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Speaker 1: from field level you can see him go one on

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Speaker 1: one against Kelvin Beacham or and then sometimes if there

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Speaker 1: is an outside linebacker to Watt's left, Beecham takes the

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker and all of a sudden, Watt is moving

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Speaker 1: inside against Will Hernandez. And we know earlier in training

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Speaker 1: camp number seventy six and number ninety nine mixed it

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Speaker 1: up a little bit, but those are valuable reps. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's one hundred percent full speed, but

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Speaker 1: certainly getting the body ready for week one, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And you know one of the things that he can

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Speaker 1: do that other people can do, he can rush from

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Speaker 1: anywhere across the offensive line, and we had talked about

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Speaker 1: this before. You know, he can rush as a defensive

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Speaker 1: end as good as any defensive end in the league.

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Speaker 1: He can rush from a three technique as good as anybody.

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Speaker 1: He can line up head up on a center. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he can do just about anything and take advantage of matchups.

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Speaker 1: And you talked about how teams need to account for

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Speaker 1: him or they're gonna be in trouble. Well, you don't

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Speaker 1: know where he's gonna be. I mean, you can draw

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Speaker 1: up stuff on the blackboard. You can talk about stuff

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Speaker 1: on the sideline and anticipate, Okay, we need to slide

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Speaker 1: our protection this way because this is where he's been

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Speaker 1: lining up, and then he comes out the next series

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Speaker 1: and he's lined up someplace completely different players like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, with that type of versatility, you can do

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things with This is watts twelfth season.

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Speaker 1: His teammate Zach Allen entering his fourth season. It is

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Speaker 1: a contract year. You can talk about help with Zach

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Speaker 1: Allen as well. Did not miss a game last season

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Speaker 1: due to injury for the first time in his career,

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Speaker 1: but that second half of the season, those last handful

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Speaker 1: of games he was playing on a bad ankle, in fact,

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Speaker 1: the end of one offseason ankle surgery. But now Zach

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Speaker 1: Allen says he is about as good as he's felt ever.

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Speaker 1: Looking back at last season, just how bad was that

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Speaker 1: ankle After playing a game, I legitimately couldn't walk on Monday,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I would be you know, my girlfriend

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Speaker 1: would have to help me down the stairs and then

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Speaker 1: you know, just it was kind of a mess. But

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Speaker 1: you know, just trying to get it ready, and towards

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Speaker 1: the end of the season, I wasn't even practicing, you know,

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Speaker 1: it would be kind of hopefully that Friday practice at

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Speaker 1: least get some reps in. Now it's it's amazing, and

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Speaker 1: I just I feel like an athlete again. You know.

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Speaker 1: Last year is kind of like the fact that I

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Speaker 1: was able to kind of do what I did with

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Speaker 1: it was you know, obviously gave me some confidence about,

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Speaker 1: you know, playing this league. And that's why I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited about this year. You know, knock on wood, stay

592
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Speaker 1: healthy and just show what I could do with all

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Speaker 1: this progress. Zach Allen earlier the Big Red Rage. He

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Speaker 1: also when he addressed the media, Kyle talked about tape

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Speaker 1: basically holding his ankle together. It was bone on bone,

596
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: not much like Evince there. Yet he still was very productive.

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Speaker 1: And I can only imagine looking across the table you

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Speaker 1: as far as how many times maybe that happened in

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Speaker 1: your career where you you play every single snap that

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Speaker 1: your numbers called upon, You're there every single Sunday, yet

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Speaker 1: it's going to take you until Thursday Friday of the

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Speaker 1: following week to get ready for that week's game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the things the average fan

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Speaker 1: doesn't completely understand. You know, there's plenty of people sitting

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Speaker 1: at home saying, hey, I could do that, I could

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Speaker 1: do that. You couldn't. I mean, players will recover or

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Speaker 1: not fully recover, but they will play through an injury

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Speaker 1: that it might take the normal person, you know, four months,

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Speaker 1: six months to recover from. It's just part of the game.

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Speaker 1: It's what you do, and you know, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of that those stories go untold. And talking specifically about

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen, you talked about, you know, he dealt with

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Speaker 1: the ankle last year, he dealt with the neck the

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Speaker 1: year before. You know this, like you talked about, he's

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Speaker 1: entering a contract year. He has never really been fully

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Speaker 1: healthy and you know, getting him fully healthy because we've

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Speaker 1: seen flashes, we've seen him make big plays, we've seen

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Speaker 1: him be consistent for a game or maybe back to

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Speaker 1: back games, but we haven't seen that through his career

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Speaker 1: here with the Arizona Cardinals. Again, just drawing on my experience,

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Speaker 1: you know, I blew out both my knees my first

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Speaker 1: four years in the league, and I was not a

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Speaker 1: good player. I was just a guy. But once I

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Speaker 1: got healthy, you know, that's when my career took off.

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Speaker 1: And I can kind of see that with him. You

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Speaker 1: see him have that spring in his step. You see

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Speaker 1: him being explosive today at practice. I saw him run

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Speaker 1: down the screen thirty yards down the field. Those are

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Speaker 1: the types of things you can do when you feel good,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, I really expect a big jump

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Speaker 1: for him. I expect that consistent play. I expect those

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Speaker 1: flash plays. And you know, we talked about with coach

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Speaker 1: Burke last week and he was one of the players

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Speaker 1: that came up. You know, for him, this could be

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Speaker 1: his year he could take that big step because you know,

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Speaker 1: basically playing on one leg, he should be commended for

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Speaker 1: what he did. It doesn't get talked about enough, but

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Speaker 1: for him to feel healthy. I really expect him to

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Speaker 1: be a really good player and contribute to this defense

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Speaker 1: this year. Zach Allen, coming off a career year, could

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Speaker 1: potentially Lucky fote To and or Rochard Lawrence take those

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Speaker 1: jumps as Zach Allen did in his third year. Pote

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Speaker 1: Too and Rochard Lawrence twenty twenty fourth round draft picks

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Speaker 1: still kind of waiting for one or both to really

645
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Speaker 1: have that breakthrough season. For Lawrence, it's just been a

646
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: question of health last season ay calf injury. He missed

647
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Speaker 1: six games, same injury he dealt with the season before.

648
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Speaker 1: Lawrence understands what he needs to do to be able

649
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Speaker 1: to be a consistent player that the Cardinals hope they drafted.

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Speaker 1: That's the number one thing is just consistency that I'm

651
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Speaker 1: looking forward to doing this year. It's just being more consistent.

652
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Speaker 1: I feel like when I am playing, I am one

653
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Speaker 1: of the best nose tackles. But if I can just

654
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Speaker 1: be more consistent and stay healthy, That's the number one

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Speaker 1: thing that's on my mind this year. Consistency is a

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Speaker 1: lot for any young player, Kyle, because you have to

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Speaker 1: be available one and then do it not just for

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Speaker 1: one week or every other week, but every time you're

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Speaker 1: on that football field. Yeah, And consistency isn't just hey,

660
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I've been in my gap the entire game. It's about

661
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: making plays, it's about being an impact type player. And

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Speaker 1: it's again looking back at last week, it's part of

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Speaker 1: the conversation we had with coach Burke is you know,

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Speaker 1: I see and he sees the big step that this

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Speaker 1: defense can take him And we have all these dynamic players.

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00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: We have tremendous safety tandem. We have linebackers that can

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00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: make plays all over the field. But the biggest step

668
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: that this defense can take is if we get more

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Speaker 1: of a contribution from the inside guys. And that you know,

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Speaker 1: again talking to coach Bowland, what's talking about, Hey, which

671
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: one of these young guys can step up and get

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00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: hits on the quarterback, get sacks on the quarterback. Nothing

673
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: kills an offense more than inside pressure and quick inside pressures.

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00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean we see that twice a year, last time,

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Speaker 1: three times against the Rams when you have I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously you know Aaron Donald is not on this roster,

677
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: but we have guys that have that ability. They're quick.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Richard Lawrence, I mean he is an explosive, explosive, powerful,

679
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Speaker 1: compact player and if he can, you know, get that

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Speaker 1: quick penetration or even put a guard in the quarterbacks lap,

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Speaker 1: it affects how offenses are able to operate. Looking at

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Speaker 1: some of those younger players as Wall specifically with Friday's

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Speaker 1: preseason game, Michael Dogbee, Manny Jones and undrafted rookie free agents,

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Speaker 1: and just watching some of those defensive line drills and

685
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Speaker 1: how coach Burke preaches the quickness as far as being

686
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Speaker 1: able to be as small as possible as you can

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Speaker 1: work around those defenders or those offensive linemen in front

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Speaker 1: of you. Something to look forward to on Friday again,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Bengals four thirty kickoff, twelve thirty pregame

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Speaker 1: coverage here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, and don't

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Speaker 1: forget the regular season right around the corner. Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: single game tickets available now. Visit easy Cardinals dot com

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Speaker 1: slash tickets for more information. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: stay in the trenches, the offensive line and some of

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Speaker 1: those younger players we hope to see flash play well

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Speaker 1: on Friday. This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. I

697
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: want a good job at the mortum attack right there

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00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: and saying like DJ Humphrey's got a nice block. DJ

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Speaker 1: Humphries pumping his chest and his fist and after the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals move the sticks. Yeah, DJ Humphries really has been

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Speaker 1: a plus. Has a hole in the middle to the

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard line. Huge hole. Great job by DJ

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Speaker 1: Humphrey's At the point, have you told me this fifty

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Speaker 1: in that first you know, I mean that first rookie minicap,

705
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Speaker 1: that distance is gonna be the case eight years later,

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Speaker 1: I probably would have laughed at you, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But build on this side of him, and

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely sweet man. Being able to you know, secure

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Speaker 1: my future here and know that I'll be able to

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Speaker 1: be here. I always wanted to play for my team,

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Speaker 1: So knowing it, I'm able to be in a physician

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Speaker 1: to continue to keep that dream of eyes. Excuse me,

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: hear players talk about it all the time, that second contract, Well,

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: how about a second contract extension with the team that

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Speaker 1: drafted you. Tip with a cap to DJ Humphreys for

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Speaker 1: getting that extension and Kyle he did it himself, sat

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Speaker 1: down across the table from Generalmanders, Steve Khan, and negotiate

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Speaker 1: that deal. He did admit that he probably wouldn't do

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Speaker 1: it again, but at least wanted to go through at

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Speaker 1: once post playing career could kind of get some business experience.

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Speaker 1: It's impressive. You know, when I was playing, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even balance my own check book. I could only focus

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Speaker 1: on one thing. So for him to do that, that

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Speaker 1: is impressive and it's good. I mean, he's such a

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00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: not only good player, such a good locker room guy.

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00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: He's become one of those vets that the younger players

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Speaker 1: turn to um and you know, to have some sort

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Speaker 1: of continuity. You know, there's gonna be you know, not

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Speaker 1: to look too far down the road because we're talking

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Speaker 1: about this season, but there's gonna be some changes in

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Speaker 1: this offensive line. I don't know exactly where, but you know,

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Speaker 1: an infusion of a lot like Coach Bowling was talking

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Speaker 1: about with his room. It's a good mix of vets

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Speaker 1: and young players. That's what we're seeing with the old line.

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Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a bit of a changing of

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Speaker 1: the guard. But you have that stalwart m at really,

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Speaker 1: you know, other than probably quarterback, it's it's for most

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Speaker 1: teams one of the most important positions on the offense

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Speaker 1: and to have that consistency, have the guy you rely on,

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Speaker 1: and honestly, you know he's his play has ascended throughout

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Speaker 1: his career and he's still in the prime of his career.

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Speaker 1: You could put Humphreys' name in ink when you talk

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Speaker 1: about that starting left tackle spot. In fact, the rest

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Speaker 1: of the projected starting lineup. According to offensive line coach

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Speaker 1: and run game coordinator Sean Kugler, the starting group is

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Speaker 1: just about set. You know, I think our starting five's

747
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: close to being set. They're still guys battling for spots,

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Speaker 1: but most of the battles are for backup spots and

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Speaker 1: trying to be that seventh or eighth guy on game

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Speaker 1: day and then making the active rosters. And again we

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Speaker 1: get a lot of really good battles at those spots,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't tell you which one of those guys

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Speaker 1: is gonna stand out. It's really going to depend on

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: the preseason games. Well, let's talk about it. Left to right.

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Speaker 1: You got Humphries, Pugh, Rodney Hudson, Will Hernandez, and Kelvin Beecham.

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Speaker 1: Those are your projected starting five. The question now that

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00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: Kugler alluded to is the backups your draft picks, Mark

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00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: Keith Hayes, Lassida Smith. It's two that I'm looking forward

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00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: to seeing in game action on Friday to see whether

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Speaker 1: they have something that this team can count out. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not this season, Kyle, but down the road, because aside

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Speaker 1: from Humphries and Hudson, those are your only two starting

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Speaker 1: offensive linemen that are signed past next season. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking forward to. Um. You know, see

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Speaker 1: how these young guys do. I from what I've seen

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Speaker 1: in practice, they're doing a good job. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: been even today a number of times that the quarterback

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00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: had plenty of time but they had a clean pocket.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it seems like, you know, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, getting the opportunity to be on the field

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Speaker 1: level for some of these practices. I love just standing

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Speaker 1: by coach Coogler and see how he works with his players.

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Speaker 1: What a great teacher. He does a tremendous job, especially

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Speaker 1: with the development of some of these younger players. While

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Speaker 1: there's a transition periods throughout practice and sometimes there's special

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Speaker 1: teams and around the league, you'll see the offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: all just kind of sit in a group and chat

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00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: about stuff. They're working non stop. Any chance they get,

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Speaker 1: Coach Coogler pulls them aside and they're working on them,

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Speaker 1: either their technique or working on their blocking assignments. So

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00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous opportunity for these younger players to develop

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00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: and learn because, like he talked about, the starting lineup

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Speaker 1: is set and so they don't have to feel this

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Speaker 1: pressure that they're going to be thrown in early. But

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Speaker 1: they have an opportunity to learn not only from the Vets,

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Speaker 1: but from one of the best teachers in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Smith a three year's daughter at Virginia Tech, but playing

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Speaker 1: center for the first time in his career. Hayes, seventh

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Speaker 1: round draft pick out of Oklahoma, a left guard, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen him get some run with the first team

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Speaker 1: when Justin Hugh has had a vet day or two.

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Speaker 1: So Markus Hayes and Lucida Smith keep an eye on.

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Speaker 1: We'll also get a chance to see in game action

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Speaker 1: for the first time wearing a Cardinals uniform, Will Hernandez

795
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: quickly becoming my favorite player on this Arizona Cardinals team.

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Speaker 1: And of course, the reunion with Sean Coogler, his college

797
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Speaker 1: head coach at Utah here's Will Hernandez on being back

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Speaker 1: with his head coach. He's taught me a lot since

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Speaker 1: I started playing football at the collegian level. So going

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Speaker 1: back to all that in those you tube days, a

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Speaker 1: lot of it was coming back and came back pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously I love being coached by him.

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Speaker 1: You know, a great coach. Guys love him, and he's

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Speaker 1: made my transition a lot easier. Six three, three thirty two.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old. We expect him to be

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Speaker 1: on the field a little bit on Friday. But here's

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Speaker 1: someone given his age and maybe you find something in him.

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Speaker 1: He's only signed for this season, but that reunion with

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Speaker 1: your college head coach who got you drafted in the

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Speaker 1: first place, and now all of a sudden, maybe a

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Speaker 1: jump start to your career. I'm excited to see what

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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez can do. Yeah, he's he's physical, you know,

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Speaker 1: just just a tough player. He's smart and you know

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Speaker 1: what I love is again hearing coach Coogler say our

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Speaker 1: old line is set. They we don't look at that

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Speaker 1: guard position and say, well, there's a couple of guys competing.

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Speaker 1: We hope one of them steps up and go and

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Speaker 1: wins the job. Because you look around the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: there's probably twenty five teams that their old line is

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Speaker 1: not set, that there is question marks at one of

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Speaker 1: those positions, and he solidified that guard spot. So you know,

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Speaker 1: we can feel good about this offensive line entering the

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Speaker 1: season and not have any question marks about you know,

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Speaker 1: this guy. We're hoping he steps up. He may be

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Speaker 1: a liability. You know, I feel good about this offensive

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Speaker 1: line entering, you know, going into playing against Kansas City

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Speaker 1: in Week one again, the preseason opener coming up on Friday,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Bengals for thirty is the kickoff. Curious

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Speaker 1: to see who else might emerge as far as some

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Speaker 1: depth in the cornerback room as well. When you have

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Speaker 1: Byrin Murphy, Marco Wilson, Antonio Hamilton, and Josh Jackson, those

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Speaker 1: are your experience guys. But can a Christian Matthew your

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Speaker 1: late round draft pick step up and Nate Brooks or

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Speaker 1: Jays Whittaker. Curious what happens on Friday? Maybe, Kyle, if

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Speaker 1: we don't see it, or if the front office doesn't

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Speaker 1: see it, is that a position now all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden that we get that time time sign which we

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Speaker 1: all anticipated having already happened, but hasn't happened as it yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. It seemed like, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: still an open competition. It's an opportunity for one of

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Speaker 1: these cornerbacks to step in and win the job. And

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Speaker 1: it hasn't happened yet. You know, there's still is time.

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Speaker 1: But that's what the preseason games are for. You want

844
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Speaker 1: to see which guys are gonna take advantage of the

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00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: opportunity handed to him, and you know it all starts

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Speaker 1: on Friday four thirty is the kickoff twelve thirty. Pregame

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Speaker 1: coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. It's also

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Speaker 1: televised on twelve News. As I mentioned that, you can

849
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: turn on the television, but turn up the radio and

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00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: listen to Paul Calves and Drew Stanton on the play

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Speaker 1: by play passion. Well, if they always get they always

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