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Speaker 3: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid Verba Boys and Girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty Hildebrandt. Joining me over there on the

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Speaker 1: far side of the podcast the one and only Dan Rubinstein. Sir, sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good, Ty. We're recording later than usual this

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Speaker 3: Sunday as we record things because we waited for the

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Speaker 3: what the best television program of twenty twenty?

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Speaker 1: Queen's gam Queens Gambit, Yes Session, the college football playoff

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Speaker 1: selection show, which aired a ESPN at twelve of Eastern.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want to record before that because typically when

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Speaker 1: wait a little bit longer. Now we know what the

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Speaker 1: playoff rankings are, what the matchups are looking like. We

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Speaker 1: talk about those, Dan, if you can stay tuned into

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Speaker 1: And certainly there is more news to be broken as

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Speaker 1: discuss again as that news breaks. But welcome back in. Hello,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm ty He's Dan. We are the

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Speaker 1: solid verbal Thank you so much for calling in over

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Speaker 1: some of our wonkye selections. I'm excited about the direction

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Speaker 3: Dan, about to dive in. I wanted the full season

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Speaker 3: winter wonders amazing prop bet challenge that we've set up here,

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think that's right. So let's

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Speaker 1: let's play the news sound let's do it. Here's what

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Speaker 1: we got. They announced the playoff rankings. Dan, Yeah, your

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Speaker 1: Rose Bowl semi final, which is not going to be

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Speaker 1: but will instead be the Rose Bull at Arlington. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be Alabama versus Notre Dame. Notre Dame squeaks

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Speaker 1: between number two Clemson and number three Ohio State. Any

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Speaker 3: Do you have it in front of you?

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Speaker 1: I have it in front of me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so in what it's in New Orleans? You said

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Speaker 3: It is the Rose Ball in Arlington? Okay? Soy, Sugar

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Speaker 1: Your number five team was Texas A and M. Your

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Speaker 3: The Athletic calling the playoff and invitational. That's a nice

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's all about a matter of how you

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Speaker 1: Look, what you've made a case for is that there

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Speaker 3: Right, Notre Dame, for all of it's good, is going

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Speaker 3: now of evidence of that on Notre Dame. No Ver Dame, Ty,

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Speaker 3: how do you like that branding? Ring spice Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 1: We have.

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Speaker 3: It's a charade. It's a total charade.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, I'm not gonna I'm not going to pretend

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Speaker 3: I hope they do.

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Speaker 1: I hope we don't, but I'm not going to pretend.

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Speaker 3: They're the first team to lose a conference championship game

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Speaker 1: Correct, correct. I'm also not going to pretend that one

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: How many how many touchdowns did they score once again

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Speaker 1: It means a lot less than it did before. But

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Speaker 1: an undefeated since ned because they're a group of five team.

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Speaker 1: So tell me who would you put in as number four.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I totally disagree with you.

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Speaker 1: Look it, we're mem If it were me, Dan, you

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Speaker 1: if it were me, I'd leave Notre Dame ount just

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Speaker 1: for spite. And then if I were a Notre Dame fan,

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Speaker 1: I would hope that they opt out of the bowl

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, thirty four to ten felt like

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Speaker 1: They claim that's not their motive, they claim my motive.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that in due time. Let's play your

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Speaker 4: This is Alex calling from saying Hi, Hi, it's shortly

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey Ti, It's t Jane Cleveland. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: it's Nathan from Indiana as a ball State alum who

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Speaker 2: Even though it's twenty twenty and there is and that's

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Speaker 1: Stop the Doctor Pepper tuition giveaway. Hey. This is Tim

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Speaker 3: Really in the starter?

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Speaker 1: Get the Bearcat in there. I think Trince Sermon might

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Speaker 2: This is Derek callings from a fridge to Nebraska Prairie.

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Speaker 2: You know that feeling when you open a huge, huge

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Speaker 2: That's what I felt like when Nebraska needed six hundred

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Speaker 5: Dan tie Patrick in Atlanta Quick Coaching Search comment after

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Speaker 5: seeing Alabama put chicken cho up fore night, but it

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Speaker 5: was a close game. But I really want Sarka. I

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Speaker 1: I think would be perfect.

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Speaker 5: Enjoy the show, looking forward to bull season, knockdown wood

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Speaker 5: that most teams can play in playoff. We've made it,

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Speaker 5: everyone has an awesome haughty he's a married Christas happy Honka,

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Speaker 5: happy Quanta, happy customers, cheers. You get to each other

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Speaker 5: and take him.

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Speaker 2: You see A Stanford is almost over and I thought

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Speaker 1: All right, that was a cheerful note. I love it

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start with the I guess first big

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever you want to call Oregon sure, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: Championship game, champions Conference champions. I mean that they won

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Speaker 1: And USC opted out, Yeah, USC optate al Keton slows

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Speaker 1: Twelve Championship. Dan. They did do the tuition throw.

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Speaker 3: Remember, well, did you see the Pac twelve tuition throw situation?

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma goes from here. They're obviously not going away anytime

437
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Speaker 1: soon on the national stage, but you know, nice win here,

438
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 1: nice win way to close it out for them.

439
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Speaker 3: Yeah, held on, I think, well they had three points

440
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty yards or something like that the

441
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: second half, so really did hold on, trusted their defense,

442
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: which certainly took another nice step forward. To me, though,

443
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: when we knew coming into this game, like we assumed

444
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Speaker 3: at least in Clemson Notre Dame that it was going

445
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 3: to be relatively tight given the previous matchup, I thought

446
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 3: it was a really clear example along with Notre Dame

447
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: Clemson and to a lesser extent, Florida Alabama, just because

448
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: we hadn't seen them play each other this season, that

449
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: it was a game that was going to come down

450
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: to moments and rising to the moment or shrinking away

451
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Speaker 3: from the moment. And for Iowa State, it was, you know,

452
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: the kick coverage issues that we saw against Louisiana, right

453
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 3: that Oklahoma was able to return the ball out pretty impressively.

454
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: It was the penalty issues we had, the false starts late.

455
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 3: It was the getting a key fourth down conversion then

456
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: immediately throwing an interception in the end zone. It was

457
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: dropping an interception. Like the universe, the college football gods

458
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 3: hand you options, they hand you opportunities, They hand you

459
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: chances to seal your fate in good or bad ways.

460
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Speaker 3: And when Iowa State drops that interception, bobbles it and

461
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: then the Oklahoma's dude, Oklahoma dude catches it, and then

462
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: that's the end of the first quarter, goes into the

463
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Speaker 3: second quarter, and then Spencer Rattler immediately bombs it downfield

464
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Speaker 3: for a touchdowns. It crystallizes so clearly, they're just like,

465
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: you either can capitalize on the opportunities that the college

466
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 3: football gods give you, or you can't. And Iowa State

467
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 3: was not quite big enough for the moment, whereas Oklahoma

468
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: managed to grow to that moment in a year of growth.

469
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Speaker 3: You know, losing to Kansas State, they're on what a

470
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: losing streak to the Cats now, right, Oklahoma is but

471
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Speaker 3: they grow, they learn after that Texas game, and even

472
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Speaker 3: though it was an uneven performance, what Iowa State did

473
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Speaker 3: to Iowa State was ultimately to me, the story of

474
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Speaker 3: this game. As good and as impressive as Oklahoma was

475
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Speaker 3: in this game, for stretches, it was Oklahoma, it was

476
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Speaker 3: Iowa State just like, we're not there. We just don't

477
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Speaker 3: have the ability to say, Okay, here's a key moment,

478
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Speaker 3: We're going to be our best possible selves here. Iowa

479
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: State just wasn't. They just weren't. And I hope they

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Speaker 3: get there. But that was what was evident in watching

481
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Speaker 3: this game.

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Speaker 1: The other game that was played early in the day,

483
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship game, Ohio State twenty two Northwestern

484
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Speaker 1: ten dan What a weird freaking game. Do you watch

485
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Speaker 1: this game?

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Speaker 3: I watched all of it. Yeah.

487
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Speaker 1: If you would have told me that Peyton Ramsey would

488
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Speaker 1: finish with more passing yards than justin fields, or even

489
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Speaker 1: that Northwestern was going to lead at halftime, yeah, I

490
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Speaker 1: would have called you nuts. You're crazy.

491
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Speaker 3: Play of the Day goes to Northwestern that pick Brandon Joseph.

492
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Speaker 3: Brandon Joseph.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the normal version of this Ohio State offense where

494
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields goes out there and just destroys your hopes

495
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Speaker 1: and dreams and rips off the arms and legs of

496
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Speaker 1: your defense. That did not work in this football game

497
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Speaker 1: at all.

498
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Speaker 5: No.

499
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Speaker 1: Instead, Ryan Day had to build the whole plane out

500
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Speaker 1: of Trey Sermon and it worked. That worked. That worked.

501
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Speaker 3: Really, it took him a while to realize the ideal

502
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: construction of a Big Ten Championship of the aircraft.

503
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Speaker 1: Right, but twenty nine rushes, three hundred and thirty one

504
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. It breaks Eddie George's single game record.

505
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: It also sets a single I guess game record in

506
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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship game for rushing yardage.

507
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Speaker 3: This is a slog individual We all remember what Wisconsin individuals.

508
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Speaker 1: This was a slog for Ohio State. You say, win

509
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Speaker 1: your clunkers, win your clunkers. They were down guys, twenty

510
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: two guys in this football game due to COVID, including

511
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: Chris Olave. Justin Fields also spraying to thumb, so throwing

512
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: later in the game was no bueno. Master t got

513
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Speaker 1: hurt in the first half. There was a lot that

514
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Speaker 1: was linebackers. They were down there, punter, I believe, Yeah,

515
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: they were abound a bunch of key dudes, a lot

516
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Speaker 1: a lot working against them here. They still managed to

517
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Speaker 1: win the clunker to pull it out. As we said

518
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Speaker 1: at the top, they're now going to be number three

519
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: in the playoff rankings, square off against Clems. They're not

520
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: going to preview that game now, but they're going to

521
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: get their shot as seven point dog in that football game.

522
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Speaker 1: Let me go to the Northwestern side for just a second, please.

523
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Speaker 1: I think they acquitted themselves pretty well here. Same they

524
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: acquitted themselves well. This is a second time you're a

525
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: homer now, second time in three years where they look

526
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Speaker 1: pretty good in the Big Ten title game against all odds.

527
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Speaker 1: I saw reports this morning that Pat Fitzgerald is allegedly

528
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: going to be a target by some of the NFL

529
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Speaker 1: looking for a coach. He has certainly had other opportunities

530
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Speaker 1: to leave. We'll see if this one's any different. But

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Speaker 1: I just can't say enough good things about the job

532
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: he's done at Northwestern. It's never been a sexy team,

533
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: but they do find ways to play well. As a

534
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: team to impose their will with defense and find ways

535
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: to at least make games interesting, as they have a

536
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: couple times now in the Big Ten Championship. So not

537
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: the result they wanted. They only scored ten points, but

538
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: certainly equit themselves pretty well here.

539
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Speaker 3: I don't know, by the way, why we're positive Ohio

540
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: State is good. Like, we're positive that there are individual

541
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Speaker 3: players who are good. We're positive they have really impressive stretches.

542
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Speaker 3: But given their schedule this year, given where Penn State

543
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 3: sort of was when they played and where they ended up,

544
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: that's less impressive. Indiana, it was their best opportunity to

545
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Speaker 3: pull away from a team we are positive is at

546
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: least pretty good, and they didn't. Right, they have up

547
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Speaker 3: thirty five points and a ton of yardage through the air. Like,

548
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: what is it about Ohio State this year and their

549
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: performances this year that leave us positive that they're I mean, look,

550
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 3: they haven't lost in a major conference, so they're going

551
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: to make the playoff. But where are you most sure?

552
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Like what gives you that confidence that this year's specific

553
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: performances by the coaching staff and players is really impressive?

554
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: Beyond reproach, Like beyond questioning Ohio State.

555
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, And look, I tweeted

556
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: it out shortly after that Notre Dame game last night.

557
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: The most interesting storyline for me right now is actually

558
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Speaker 1: who is the third place team? Who's the third place team?

559
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: And somebody pointed out, well, that would be the BCS.

560
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: You could do the BCS again. Maybe this would be

561
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: a good year for that. I don't know. But in

562
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: my view, Clemson and Alabama are far and away one

563
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: two in what order, I don't care, but they're the

564
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: top two teams in the country. What's interesting is Ohio State,

565
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Texas A, and m Oklahoma. You can throw

566
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Cincinnati in there. Why not. Let's throw Oregon in there

567
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: just so they can lose and I can have some.

568
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: Fun with you. But and make no mistake, they will.

569
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: But my point is, like I would be more comfortable

570
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: having a playoff between those teams. Let them play it

571
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Speaker 1: out for third, because that would at least be interesting.

572
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: And you're right, I don't know about Ohio State. I

573
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: didn't know about Northwestern going into this game.

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Speaker 3: That was sort of my Northwestern was crazy impressive to me,

575
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: the way that they came together and they actually in

576
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: those moments, right on those third and elevens, on those

577
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: fourth and threes in the red zone, look good.

578
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: They gave.

579
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Speaker 3: They gave Ohio State.

580
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: Hell they did.

581
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Speaker 3: They absolutely They forced Ohio State to try and kick

582
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 3: the ball and that didn't always work. And Northwestern went

583
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: downfield a little bit with Peyton Ramsey. I know, he

584
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: threw those two picks which ultimately were back breaking, but

585
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: they ran the ball and you know they converted you know,

586
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: fourth and short, third and short whatever. So they were

587
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: never going to have enough firepower to score twenty plus

588
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: points versus Ohio State, but to be up like they

589
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: were at halftime, to just look as fearless as they did.

590
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Speaker 3: And I say that implying that there's some sort of

591
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: like underdog rodent or of some kind, but like this,

592
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 3: this is a really strong defense. They just and they

593
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: made that change at offensive coordinator after last season. They

594
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Speaker 3: went out and got Peyton Ramsey, which I thought was

595
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 3: really really smart and that paid dividends. Their offense still

596
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: wasn't good, but it wasn't actively terrorizing their chances, which

597
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: is an improvement. And so what in a very strange year,

598
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: of course, and normal year as you like to point

599
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: out everybody says Northwestern finishing the regular season as a

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Speaker 3: top fifteen team and up on Ohio State at halftime,

601
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: it's it's nothing if not a full on testament to

602
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: the character of this team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, I completely agree, and good on them. Good

604
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: to Ohio State facing its own batch of challenges here.

605
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I you know, we'll find out. We'll

606
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Speaker 1: find out.

607
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Speaker 3: I think of State might be beaten down by Clemson.

608
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean, not like that. That's something we haven't already seen.

609
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 3: I think we're going to see two blowouts in the semifinals.

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Speaker 3: I hope I'm wrong. What was it? What did Urban J? T?

611
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Barrett?

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Speaker 3: It was like twenty sixteen? Was that thirty one? Nothing?

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00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: I think that was the number against Ashan Watson? I believe.

614
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll see. Congratulations to Ohio State

615
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: Alwonkee year you win the Big Ten title. Let's move

616
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: to the ACC game. I have a lot to say

617
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Speaker 1: on this, So if you'd like to get anything off

618
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Speaker 1: your chest, you can just go ahead and say that

619
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: now and just give me the runway that I need

620
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Speaker 1: to get this off.

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Speaker 3: As Mike catharsis, well, Okay, So to what degree. I

622
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: guess look between one and five, do you want my

623
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: Notre Dame? I told you so about their offensive rundown

624
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: from the one I tried to warn you about last year.

625
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: You didn't warn me about anything. Get out of here.

626
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: Wait? Did I not tell you? You're trying to tell.

627
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Me something that I don't know about Notre Dame? Is

628
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: that what you're trying to do?

629
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Speaker 3: You disagreed when I told you that Notre Dame makes

630
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 3: life hard on itself against good defenses by the way

631
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: their offense is constructed without Winter Wonder type playman.

632
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Speaker 1: You're not. You're not warning me of anything. I didn't know.

633
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: This is my point is you might disagree.

634
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: I disagree with you.

635
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: My point to you, my point to you a few

636
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: days ago, was that it could just be that this

637
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: is the offense. Not that you're wrong, but that this

638
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: is the offense. This is not to you. It's not

639
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: that it's not performing optimally. It's that this is what

640
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: the offense is. This is the optimal version of the offense. Dan,

641
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: that's what I well, yes and no, I told you

642
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: it was the offense. The architecture of the offense was

643
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: missing a lot. When you don't have those like crazy.

644
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Speaker 1: I think it was a manualaco and I love this phrase,

645
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: like I think he used it with regard to Ohio

646
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Speaker 1: State Northwestern where he thought it was me a close game,

647
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: but then when it got down to like it was

648
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: called cat defense or cat ball, like this cat on

649
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: that cat like Northwestern couldn't hang. So that to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was already obvious when you look at

651
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Speaker 1: the construction of both of these rosters that Clemson was

652
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Speaker 1: more talented, more experienced, more ready for those moments. But

653
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: when you watch Notre Dame in practice with a pretty

654
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: good offensive line with Ian Book who made plays all

655
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: year long and took a really nice step forward and

656
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: became a good quarterback, that watching Notre Dame, even when

657
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: they were beating teams like North Carolina and Clemson that

658
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: first time, it was obvious that they were leaving a

659
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: ton of points and yards on the field because of

660
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: the way this offense was constructed. And when you watch

661
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: them against Clemson, and when you watch Ian Book and

662
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I actually I didn't think it was fully Ian books fault.

663
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: They didn't. I think it was fully the offensive line's fault.

664
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: When he was he had happy feet when he was

665
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: trying to extend plays. It's just that he was playing

666
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: against better players and the offense left Notre Dame basically

667
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,479
Speaker 3: no wiggle room, so that when they do drive down

668
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: the field, when they do what they had a really

669
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: nice interception it was Drew White tipping it to Kyle Hamilton. Boy,

670
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 3: when they Drew dive it down the field, yeah, my guy.

671
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: That they're getting the red zone and they just don't

672
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: have anything. They don't have anything when the moment grows,

673
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: when they are you know, when they have that. I

674
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: think it was a fourth and three when Ian Book

675
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: rolled out and tried to hit was it Avery Davis?

676
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: He threw it a little bit behind where they turned

677
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: it over on downs. That's a that's a tough play.

678
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: Like handrging over whether or not it was on Avery

679
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: Davis or Ian Book.

680
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: It was probably a little bit of both. All that

681
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: matters is that they didn't convert, but right, so, it

682
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: was just it was another example to me of early

683
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: on Notre Dame what they missed a guppy of a

684
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: field goal. Twenty five I think was the number. Uh

685
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: They're presented with moments to hang around with Clemson, and

686
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 3: they fail in those moments and then it just you know,

687
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: it loses. I told you that I thought Drew White

688
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: was a pretty good linebacker, but in space he could

689
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 3: be picked on. I think both of those the touchdown

690
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: runs from Travis Etn and from Trevor Lawrence. Do you

691
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: know whose gap it was in? It wasn't Drew Whites.

692
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: So I just I'm here, as you know, I'm trying

693
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: to shine a light, Tye. That's all I'm saying.

694
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: Well, you're not I don't think you're not wrong. I've

695
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: been watching this team for a long time.

696
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: I know I'm I'm telling you anything you don't know.

697
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: I was telling you things I don't think you were

698
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: ready to make peace with. Well, I've made peace with

699
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: these things many times over.

700
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And it was it was some of

701
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: our trusted verballer hood that pointed out to me that

702
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: I needed to lower my expectations for Ian Book, that

703
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: it could just be that this is the kind of

704
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: quarterback he is, and putting him on the run, and

705
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, that little happy feet thing he likes to

706
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: do in the pocket, maybe just part of his game

707
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: that they need to scheme in. So I sort of

708
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: made peace with that A while ago, I've been a

709
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: happier fan for it, I think, But it was a

710
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: frustrating game to watch. Like I said, it was over

711
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: after six drives because they started off looked really solid,

712
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: kicked the fifty one yard field goal, should have done

713
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: better than that, but made it by about three feet,

714
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get some early points off the pick,

715
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: missed the twenty four yard field goal, as you said.

716
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: And then there was that fourth and three, where again

717
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: they mounted a pretty good drive against a Clemson defense.

718
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Fourth and three. You gotta convert, you gotta convert. We

719
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: talked about on the preview show, Dan, they didn't play

720
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: their first or excuse me, they didn't play their best

721
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: game the first time they scored off against Clemson. The

722
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: postgame win expectancy at forty two percent would indicate, Yeah,

723
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: there were a lot of inefficiencies in that forty seven

724
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: to forty win. Still counts as win, but they left

725
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: a lot on the table, and they left even more

726
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: on the table this time. After that point, this game

727
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: was effectively over. This game was over. Six drives into

728
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: the game, clems against the ball back, they go down,

729
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: they score a touchdown. Before you know it, they're down

730
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: thirty four to three in this football game, we get

731
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: to garbage time to get it to thirty four to ten.

732
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: But so the question is what changed, what changed? The

733
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: obviously answer is Trevor Lawrence changed. Trevor Lawrence changed because

734
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: he played and he doesn't miss big throws and they

735
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: sit on the broadcast a million times. He's got wheels

736
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: for a dude who's sixty six fourteen rushes ninety yards

737
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: in a touchdown. That added dimension wasn't there the first time.

738
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: The ability to kind of, you know, hit a guy

739
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: in stride as you're falling back a fade away throw

740
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: over the middle. It's Trevor Lawrence. It's it's the epitome

741
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: of Trevor Lawrence. It's what he does.

742
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: He reached just waiting that extra half second for the

743
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: guy to open up on that crosser.

744
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: He just knows what he's doing. So that's why he's

745
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: going to be the first overall pick. That's why he's

746
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: the best quarterback prospect I've ever seen as a college

747
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: football fan. Why whoever gets him at the next level

748
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: is going to be perpetually lucky good on them. That's

749
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: the first thing. The second is Trevor Lawrence wasn't the

750
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: only one running the football. How about Travis etn ten

751
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: for one twenty four. He had twenty eight yards the

752
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: first time around, he was a complete non factor. This

753
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: time around he got his to great avail. So that

754
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: was another dimension that Notre Dame had to scheme for.

755
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: They couldn't scheme for all of these things at one

756
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: at once. Beyond that, when they were on offense, they

757
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: just couldn't get anything down the field well.

758
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: And they could afford to scheme even though dj Oeungo

759
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: la Lay was incredibly successful in terms of his yardage

760
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 3: and production that they were happy to let the game

761
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 3: go good or bad on Dju's arm, where right understandably

762
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 3: they they were more skittish to say, oh, well, just

763
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 3: let Trevor Lawrence be No, you.

764
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: Can't do that. You can't do that. And you know,

765
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: on the flip side, I think Clemson was more than

766
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: content to put her on the arm of een book

767
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: to go it beat us, rush will rush for we'll

768
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: still find a way to get pressure. And they did

769
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: against a good offensive line and they played a lot.

770
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: Of coverage and nobody was open. Yeah, and they actually

771
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 3: they disrupted the offensive line a good deal. They got

772
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: to ian Book happy feet or not, I remember, you know,

773
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: it was almost almost the perfect example, Like I think

774
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 3: they got to a second and one and immediately sacked

775
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 3: them for third and eleven. Like that sort of made

776
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: sense to me as the big picture of this game

777
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: where Notre Dame would show something promising and then something

778
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: would go terribly wrong.

779
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well so you know, ian Book under duress was

780
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: kind of the story of the day. On offense, Notre

781
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: Dame could not mount a charge to get themselves back

782
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: in this football game. Like I said, it felt like

783
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: it was over early. It is a frustrating game to

784
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: watch as a Notre Dame fan. Where I disagree with

785
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: you is that it invalidates the season.

786
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't invalidate the season. They had a very

787
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: good year. It invalidates the Clemson win.

788
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: They had a very good year. And as it relates

789
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: to this playoff, we are on unfortunately at a place

790
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: where we're not picking great teams to make it into

791
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: the top four. We are simply picking the next best team.

792
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: The good teams are really all we had to pick from,

793
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: and of the remaining good teams, you can make a

794
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: credible point for Notre Dame. That does not mean they're

795
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: going to beat Alabama or even contend with Alabama for

796
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: that matter. It doesn't mean Ohio State's even going to

797
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: go anywhere close to Clemson. But in a land of

798
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: good teams, Notre Dame is in that top four.

799
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: Do you think there's a stronger case if you look

800
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: at the regular season for Notre Dame and you take

801
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 3: away that Clemson game, which my point, so you're gonna

802
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 3: have to indulge me here. My point is, yesterday invalidated

803
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: the Clemson win, Okay, because it just it left no

804
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: it left nothing, nothing to doubt based on where these

805
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: teams ended up as teams at the end of the year.

806
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: That like that as a resume item means basically nothing.

807
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: So if you look at the rest of Notre Dame,

808
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: do I just don't agree.

809
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: That I don't agree with is a It was a

810
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: different version of Clemson that Notre Dame beat. It was

811
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: a different version of Clemson. It was not as good.

812
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: It was Clemson White without Trevor Lawrence, without three big

813
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: guys on defense. That is still better than most teams

814
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: in college football. All Right, that is not a credible

815
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: case to be in the playoff. Okay, but right my

816
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: only point is that it does not invalidate that win.

817
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: It was still a very good win. It just was

818
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: it definitely got a little steam knocked off it by

819
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: virtue of the fact that they got drilled by the

820
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: actual full fledge Clemson.

821
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I would say so. So outside of that, like

822
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: the what's the strong case twelve to seven against Louisville,

823
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: they destroy pitt Georgia Tech was fine BC. They eventually

824
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: separated from Syracuse. They start slow, but eventually separate from

825
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: and you're it's basically all rested on that North Carolina win.

826
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: To say, yep, Notre Dame belongs North Carolina team lost

827
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: to Florida State, Yeah, Boston Virginia, I hear.

828
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: I Look, I'm just saying in the land of good teams,

829
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: Notre Dames in the top four.

830
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: I just if we're deciding things on the field, I

831
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: think a lot decided yesterday. Well I would agree with that,

832
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: But as somebody who doesn't like the playoff, I want

833
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: to be clear, I wonder name I had a very

834
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 3: good year. It's a very good team. They just don't

835
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: belong in any sort of meaningful conversation, and that's what

836
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: I think the playoff represents.

837
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the SEC game. This was

838
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: actually a fun game. Maybe we should have loved this one.

839
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: Maybe we should have started with this. Where's my shootout?

840
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: Sound came through really loud on the earphones. Dan, I apologize,

841
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: but it's okay. Fifty two forty six.

842
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 3: Huh what a game, real good one.

843
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: Stats are gaudy, over a thousand total yards. We had

844
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: monster games for both quarterbacks, for Najie Harris, for Devonte Smith,

845
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: Darius Tony, big Old Kyle Pitts, who is a serious problem.

846
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,919
Speaker 1: He is a serious problem. He's a winter wonder. He's

847
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: a four seasons wonder. The dude is uncoverable in college football,

848
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: and he got his in this football game. At half,

849
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: it looked like it may get out of hand. But Florida,

850
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: to their credit, man, they kept running their offense. They

851
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: found ways to be really effective against Alabama. Bama had

852
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: just enough padding to feel like they had the Gators

853
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: at arm's length pretty much for the duration of the

854
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: second half. Florida couldn't stop Bama, but Bama couldn't really

855
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,959
Speaker 1: stop Florida either, And that's something to keep in mind

856
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: as we get to our inevitable Alabama Clemson national title game,

857
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about a couple of weeks from now.

858
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: But Florida was like an on side kick away from

859
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: making this thing really interesting at the end. Didn't get

860
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: the bounce. But like I, I have mixed emotions on

861
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: this game. On one hand, Alabama is so dominant on offense,

862
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: there's so many ways that they can beat you and

863
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: will beat Notre Dame. And on the other side of things,

864
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: I do wonder what happens if they go up against

865
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: a really dynamic offense like a Clemson. I think it

866
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: probably has a score like this. Frankly, another fifty two

867
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: to forty six thriller is what we're going to see

868
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: in the national championship game. This is how you beat

869
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: a team like in Alabama or a Clemson in twenty twenty.

870
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: It's got to be a shootout. You can't so much

871
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: worry about trying to stop their offense all the time.

872
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: You just need a couple a couple key stops and

873
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: you got to hope for just an ounce of separation

874
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: that you can somehow exploit. But Florida came very close

875
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: to doing that. They came very close to doing that.

876
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Perhaps if a couple things go their way earlier in

877
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: this football game, it's a different story. But fifty two

878
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: to forty six to your final what are your thoughts here?

879
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean Alabama was obviously sensational and Florida

880
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: was Florida right. They struggled on defense, but they had

881
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: they had a better trio of pass catchers and Kyle Pitts,

882
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 3: Kadarius Tony and Trevon Grimes that I think then, I

883
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: think Alabama will face at any point in the playoff

884
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: whoever they end up playing Notre Dame, Clemson, Ohio State.

885
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: I mean, they're playing Notre Dame, but in the national Championship,

886
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 3: as we believe will happen, and that gave Florida the

887
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: best chance. We saw Trevon Grimes go up on that touchdown,

888
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: we saw Kyle Pitts own the middle of the field,

889
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: We saw Caadarius Tony blow by Alabama DB's and it

890
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: was not a surprise given what we've seen from the

891
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: Gators all year long.

892
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: But it was.

893
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 3: A refreshing performance to say, well, this is what Florida

894
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: can do, and it's what they did do They just defensively,

895
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: they didn't have the guys, the four quarter guys. They

896
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: had some stops. They really owned that third quarter. They

897
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: took a nice step forward in that third quarter after

898
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: going out to what was it thirty five eighteen, thirty

899
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: five seventeen, something like that at halftime, when Alabama drove

900
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: down the field pretty quickly in a minute and change

901
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: or something like that or under a minute somewhere around

902
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: there to score. I came away most impressed because I'm

903
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: always going to be crazy impressed by Devonte Smith. I'm

904
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: always going to be crazy impressed with that trio of

905
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 3: Florida pass catchers and both of these quarterbacks Najee Harris

906
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: in an all purpose performance. It reminded me he's a

907
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: much bigger version. But it reminded me of how I

908
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: felt about Clyde Edwards Alaier last year, maybe against Alabama

909
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: in the National Championship, in those big games where it's

910
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: just like, man, every time they give this guy the ball,

911
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: he just gets a little bit extra and he is

912
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: just he has to be so disheartening to the other team,

913
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 3: whether it was splitting him out wide and having those

914
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: delayed crossers. It was just such an impressive day, an

915
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: all purpose day once again from Najie Harris. That was

916
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: to me where they leaned on this guy with his experience,

917
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: with his talent, and he more than came through. He

918
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: was the difference maker in this game. Mac Jones was good,

919
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: Devontae Smith was really good. None of those things. And

920
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: it's not a surprise that Nagie Harris was good, but

921
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: it surprised me the way in which Alabama won was

922
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: just feeding that hot hand hot hand as often as

923
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 3: possible and him fully surpassing expectations. He was the MVP

924
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: to me.

925
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: I don't remember him having these kind of excuse me,

926
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: these kind of moves in.

927
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: The past, and it was maybe it just wasn't needed

928
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: thirty five.

929
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the patience that he shows and

930
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: his ability to sort of dance around in traffic is

931
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,959
Speaker 1: really impressive to me, and I just we haven't really

932
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: seen it on display before this season. He's gotten better

933
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year and that shows vision,

934
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: that shows patients obviously, it shows incredible agility. So he's

935
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: a weapon and they used him a lot coming out

936
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: of the backfield too. We think about this game coming

937
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: up against Notre Dame talk about a nightmare. It's one

938
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: thing if you've got a guy like a Trevor Lawrence

939
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: who can run, Mac Jones isn't so much a runner.

940
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: But if you've got a guy like Najie Harris coming

941
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: out of the backfield sort of accomplishes the same thing, right,

942
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: it's still going to demand someone's attention and take a

943
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: guy out of presumably the middle of the field. So

944
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic that I think we saw in

945
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: full display, obviously against the Florida defense that has not

946
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: been great throughout the course of the year. Huh, that

947
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: is put it very mildly. However, for their part, I

948
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: think they did what they needed to do to keep

949
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: this game close. They obviously lose by only six points

950
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: and had to run at this thing late, so I

951
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: thought they acquitted themselves quite well. They were what a seventeen.

952
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: Point dog going into this game something like that.

953
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: We both we both felt that was a little too aggressive.

954
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: Indeed it ended up being the case. But fifty two

955
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: to forty six was your final score here in the

956
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: SEC title game.

957
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 3: Elsewhere did this legitimately Alabama giving up what they did

958
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 3: what was forty six points? Did that alter your bulletproof perception.

959
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 3: What I assume was your bulletproof perception of Alabama. I

960
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: don't think so. Okay, did it alter yours a little bit? Yeah,

961
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, because until this point, at like, who

962
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: are the best quarterbacks Alabama faced this year? It was

963
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: probably like the best quarterback was probably Matt Corral Yeah,

964
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: and he lit him up. He had a really strong

965
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 3: game against Alabama. So they faced another very strong definitely stronger,

966
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: but probably around the same. You know, Kyle Trask is

967
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 3: a better version of Matt Correll, but that Kyle Trask

968
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: and represents something that Trevor Lawrence also represents an even

969
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 3: higher version of Kyle Trask. That to me makes it

970
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: a lot more interesting. Whereas previous Alabama teams are like, yeah,

971
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: he's really good, but this Alabama defense is better Right now,

972
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. And I know Clemson Alabama are the

973
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: two best teams in the country. I know Trevor Lawrence

974
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 3: of the remaining three quarterbacks more so than justin fields

975
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: or ian book, gives his team the best chance against Alabama.

976
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: But no, I it affects the bulletproof nature or the

977
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: bulletproof lens that I look through looking at Alabama.

978
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess for me, it doesn't have quite the

979
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: same impact because I just expected we would see a

980
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: game like this against Florida.

981
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: I think the Florida's offense been great.

982
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: The offense has been so good, and you know, some

983
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: of the projections we looked at said ten points, like

984
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: a ten point game. I thought seventeen was too much,

985
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: and so six the way it finished up felt about

986
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: right to be.

987
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 3: And not running the ball at all once again, Florida.

988
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I just I think Alabama's versatile enough that

989
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: they can play any kind of game that they need

990
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: to in order to win. And that's what scares me

991
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: about them. If they need to air it out fifty

992
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: times and feed DeVante Smith and that receiving core, they

993
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: can do that to win. If they need to give

994
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: it to Naji Harris thirty five times, let him get

995
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: two hundred yards, they can do that to win. So

996
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: they just so many different ways that they can beat you.

997
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: That the defense has been a bit of an observation,

998
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: let's say, throughout the course of the year, and something

999
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: that will keep tabs on as we move forward into

1000
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But now I still feel pretty good about

1001
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: where Alabama's.

1002
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 3: At Yeah, I feel really good.

1003
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 1: I still think I picked Clemson over Alabama.

1004
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 3: For what if you take Clemson over Obama?

1005
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: I think I take Clemson over Alabama. But wow, wow,

1006
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 1: some other games we got to talk about other games?

1007
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: Quick, Clemson wasn't even tested. We don't even know how

1008
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 3: Clemson responded. Clemson faced Notre Dame twice.

1009
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, they faced Notre Dame twice. This win completely

1010
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: invalidates their loss.

1011
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 3: Right, not only does invalidate their loss, it makes me

1012
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: think Boston College they gave him much more of a

1013
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: shot than Notre Dame yesterday.

1014
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, some other games we got to talk

1015
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: about these other games here, the American Championship. Do you

1016
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: watch this game at all? This was a diggible, unbelievable watch.

1017
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: What a miserable football game this must have been to

1018
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: be to play in thirty.

1019
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: Nine degrees rain, Oh oh, soggy moist damp.

1020
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: Man twenty seven to twenty four year final Cole Smith

1021
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: kicked a game winning field goals time expired gave the

1022
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: Bearcats the w. They finished an undefeated season. Look, they

1023
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: were rusty. I love when you start thoughts with that. That's

1024
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: one of my all time favorite ah Louck. Listen, listen.

1025
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: I haven't played since November the twenty first. Right the

1026
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: rust was there. They had twelve penalties, nine pre snap penalties,

1027
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: which is always like something to keep an eye on.

1028
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: That tells you where a team's at and two fumbles.

1029
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: Lost a miserable game. You win your clunkers. They should

1030
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: have won by more, they should have gotten I thought

1031
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: more consideration for the playoff, even though I knew realistically

1032
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to happen. This is a good year

1033
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati, is a good year for them, really good,

1034
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: a good year for Luke Fickle. I don't care about

1035
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: the playoff. I don't care about any of that stuff.

1036
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has been damn impressive this year and they deserve

1037
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: all the credit.

1038
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was actually really impressed with Tulsa as well,

1039
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 3: hanging around making plays. You know, Zack Smith didn't have

1040
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 3: a great game. He threw those two picks, by the way.

1041
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 3: Shout out to Cincinnati's linebackers. What a crew. I you know,

1042
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: Cincinnati was undisciplined. They are elements of watching Cincinnati where

1043
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: you're like, it's a really good team, it's a really

1044
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: good year. They would get absolutely wasted by the country's best.

1045
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 3: And that's okay, because it's still okay to have a

1046
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 3: really strong year. And I'll put it in that context.

1047
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 3: I was impressed with Tulsa, you know, falling down like

1048
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: they did early on, and even though z Axsmith wasn't

1049
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 3: all that accurate in the elements, he still made plays

1050
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: downfield late and Cincinnati just made more. I like that,

1051
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: by the way, the visual of the all black and

1052
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 3: all white, yes, as visual, but I was. I came

1053
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: away very impressed with Cincinnati and very impressed with Tulsa

1054
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: and Desmond. Ritter took a very nice step forward from

1055
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: last year. I mean, if we're talking big pictures of

1056
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 3: Cincinnati through the air was making plays downfield once again.

1057
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: So an incredible year and if nothing else, to me,

1058
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 3: going undefeed in the American is more impressive than losing

1059
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 3: two in the Big twelve.

1060
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: It's good to have you aboard now here at the

1061
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: altar of des Ritter. I'm always glad to have you here.

1062
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: We welcome you with open arms. This is an over

1063
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: minded church. Yeah, welcome, welcome.

1064
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 3: A Deserterian church, Esetarian church, thank you. Yeah no. And

1065
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 3: Jerome Ford, who I think was Abama transfer made plays,

1066
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 3: he had a long run. I just Cincinnati's a really

1067
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: good team, and it's it's a shame we have to

1068
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: talk about them being jypped by the playoff committee. It's

1069
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 3: a shame that we have to like sort of stretch

1070
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 3: to make arguments because once again, you go undefeed in

1071
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 3: the American It's better than going through a conference with

1072
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: two losses. Just not even in the lens of the playoffs,

1073
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: just in general, I am more impressed with you if

1074
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: you go through the American undefeated than I am a team,

1075
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, Georgia with two losses or Oklahoma with two

1076
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: losses or Oregon with two losses. It's just better. It's

1077
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 3: going undefeated. It's really hard. Cincinnati just did it.

1078
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: Mount West the real Sparty, the real Sparty Dan. San

1079
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: Jose State thirty four, this one too, Boise State twenty

1080
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: three touchdowns for Nick Starkle. You remember Nick Sarkle. Of

1081
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: course they outgained Boise four ninety eight to two twenty four.

1082
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Broncos had three yards rushing as a team. There's a

1083
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: big win, a big turnaround story here for San Jose State.

1084
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: Huh, it's a big deal. I mean not over the

1085
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: course of this season, they've been nails this now.

1086
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: They've been great this season I've seen in general. This

1087
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: is a hell of a turn story.

1088
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 5: Man.

1089
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 3: Well, no, they really performed well under Mike McIntyre and

1090
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: turned things around before he left for Colorado and then

1091
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: Brent Brandon. You're right, I mean they they're ranked now.

1092
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: They finished the season undefeated, a tough conference in its

1093
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 3: own right, the Mountain West. And you're right, Nick Starkle

1094
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: had a crazy impressive game and he's had an up

1095
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: and down year. But just I mean the receivers. I

1096
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 3: think it was Trey Walker once again, he had an

1097
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: amazing day. They went, they went downfield. This was not

1098
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: a team that nicol and dimed, a pretty good Boise

1099
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: State team. They went at them, they succeeded, and so

1100
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 3: San Jose State one of the quieter amazing stories in

1101
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 3: the sport this season. This very strange season.

1102
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: Conference USA. You abb twenty two.

1103
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't see this coming.

1104
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: No, Marshall, thirteen Blazers led this one wire to wire.

1105
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: They outgained Marshall by two. Hundy. This is a program, literally, Dan,

1106
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: this is a program that the university eliminated. They eliminated

1107
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: the program after the twenty fourteenth season. They were off

1108
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: for two years. They came back to FBS. Bill Clark,

1109
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: their coach, has done a tremendous job building this program backup. Yeah,

1110
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: resuscitating it from the literal death of FBS and twenty

1111
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: two to thirteen.

1112
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 3: Yea, say Brown. I feel like I've been singing Spencer

1113
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 3: Brown's praises for a while now, but once again they

1114
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 3: leaned on him. He performed. I scrubbed through this one quickly,

1115
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 3: and yeah, wire to wire really impressive. And then there's

1116
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: the mac who didn't see this coming?

1117
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: No, did we? Whoo? Ball State, they had been sneaking by.

1118
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: Ball States scored three touchdowns in the final five minutes

1119
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: and fifty five seconds of the first half to jump

1120
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: out to a thirty five to twenty one lead. Lot

1121
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: of first half points here.

1122
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 3: Big week for Middle eight. By the way, have you

1123
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: did you see that? Ping? Discussed everywhere?

1124
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: Middle eight?

1125
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, though four minutes before halftime, the four minutes after halftime,

1126
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: like the team who wins the middle eight? There's another you.

1127
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: Know number whose thing was that? Who is using that?

1128
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: I saw it all over the place. I saw a

1129
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 3: couple of different writers. I saw our friend Yogi Roth

1130
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: talking about it on Twitter. I saw middle eight, maybe

1131
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: even Urban Meyer. I forget, somebody in a prominent TV

1132
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: position was talking.

1133
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: We call it eight ball. Sure, middle eight?

1134
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: Middle eight?

1135
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: How did I miss that?

1136
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? You just you gotta have your your fingers on

1137
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: the pulse. Tie, do a better job fingering.

1138
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, balls Day keyed on Jarrett Patterson. Yes, he's

1139
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: a star running back for Buffalo. He was held to

1140
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: forty seven yards.

1141
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they forced Buffalo to succeed through the air,

1142
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: which they largely did, but they just weren't able to

1143
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: control the game. They could. No, that's it.

1144
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: The Cardinals controlled the entire game. They win thirty eight

1145
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: to twenty eight. The other bummer I guess this week

1146
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: was there were a bunch of games that were canceled, obviously,

1147
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: but the Sun Belt Championship was canceled. Yeah, so Coastal

1148
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: did not have a chance to have that rematch much

1149
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: away to rematch the real rematch against Louisiana to try

1150
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: and invalidate the game from earlier this season. Other action

1151
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: around college tripball. Very quickly, we had three games in

1152
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Penn State Big Over Illinois, Wisconsin in

1153
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: ot Over, Illinoia who hired Brett Beilama, Dan, I don't

1154
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: have a sound. I don't have it.

1155
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 3: What do you want to do it?

1156
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: What I do?

1157
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 5: I do?

1158
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 3: Capella Ortlana rotig ort Alana Rotig.

1159
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: There it is, there's Bert. He's back baby, Brett Bilima

1160
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: hired by Illinois.

1161
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about that.

1162
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: Higher what the hell I'm at.

1163
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm generally good. It's not like he was just fired

1164
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,959
Speaker 3: a week ago and took this job, or even last

1165
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: year by Arkansas went to the NFL. Maybe you gained

1166
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: some perspective. Maybe you just sort of realize what you

1167
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: miss about and what you would do differently. Lovey Smith

1168
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 3: didn't have that in terms of here's what I would

1169
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 3: do differently than my last stop as a college coach.

1170
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: Billma potentially has it. Everybody's in a point to like

1171
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: all the power offense that he ran, His offense evolved

1172
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: at Arkansas. They ended up throwing at a ton by

1173
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: the time he left, and I look forward to him

1174
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: hopefully being able to evaluate develop and you know, bring

1175
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: in You're not going to bring in, you know, huge

1176
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: classes at Illinois, but I think I think they can

1177
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: be interesting, and they haven't been interesting in a long time.

1178
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: Short of that Wisconsin win last year. For stretches, Illinois

1179
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: has not been interesting for a long time. And I

1180
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: think just the competence floor, I think rises significantly.

1181
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: What life is all about content?

1182
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: Right?

1183
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, If Auburn came out this afternoon and say, guys,

1184
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: we just hired Brett Bilima, right, but put your hands

1185
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: together for the next coach at all like that would

1186
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: not go over.

1187
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: He's not failing upwards going to Illinois, that.

1188
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: Would not go over well. But Illinois, if you're Illinois

1189
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: not a traditional college football power. It's a part of

1190
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: the country that Brett Bilama is from. He knows well.

1191
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: He had a lot of success in that big ten

1192
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: West climate.

1193
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great move. Is he from? Where's he from?

1194
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: From Illinois? He's from He's from Illinois. Okay, an Iowa tattoo?

1195
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 3: Is it Brett Bilama who has an Iowa tattoo? I'm

1196
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: verifying this now, Brett Biolama Iowa tattoo? I believe he

1197
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: does Okay, correct, he does well. Believe achieve with the Hawkeye.

1198
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: His old team, Wisconsin want and overtime over Minnesota twenty

1199
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: to seventeen and Nebraska one. On Friday night twenty eight

1200
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: to twenty one over Rutgers. They overteam four turnovers to

1201
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: do so.

1202
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 3: By the way, I think Minnesota and Penn State opted out, right.

1203
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Penn State both opted out.

1204
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Minnesota and Penn State opted out the trophy. Minnesota

1205
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 3: Wisconsin is ax right, Paul Bundy's ax. Yeah, they get

1206
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: the ax. Wisconsin gets the acts. I mean, look, it's

1207
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 3: gonna feel like an afterthought of a week, but those

1208
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 3: wins still are meaningful to those fan bases, to those players,

1209
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: to those coaching staffs, and so really cool to see Nebraska.

1210
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 3: I didn't watch any of against Rutgers. I learned for

1211
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 3: the first time that they outgained the Scarlet Knights thanks

1212
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: to a bunch of turnovers keeping it closer than it

1213
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: should have been. So hey Nebraska.

1214
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adrian Martinez and Ddrich Mills deserve it themselves.

1215
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 3: Nice days, Okay, they both had good days. Okay, Where

1216
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 3: are we going next? Where'd you say se?

1217
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say Texas A and M did

1218
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: what it had to do thirty four to thirteen over Tennessee.

1219
01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a lot of A and M,

1220
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: who are wondering, why are you talking about the Aggie's

1221
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: an hour into the show? Why not sooner given controversy.

1222
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: The truth is that there wasn't a whole lot of controversy.

1223
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Everyone I think had a pretty good idea for whether

1224
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: this playoff thing was going to go. That does not

1225
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: at all supersede the fact that you guys are bumped

1226
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: and I hear that. I hear that point. I take

1227
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: that point. Weird year AM did what it had to

1228
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: do here. They want Big Volz drew first blood. Harrison

1229
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Bailey had a nice touchdown pass to start this game off,

1230
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: but it was all downhill from there and AM zoomed

1231
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: into the lead. They never looked back. Jimbo Fisher tried

1232
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: to be as outspoken as possible and politic for the Aggies.

1233
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: It was obviously not meant to be here as they

1234
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: are left out as a number five team. Again, I

1235
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: know it's a consolation prize, probably not what A and

1236
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: M fans want to hear. I honestly believe that there is,

1237
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: and we haven't seen the matchups yet. Maybe they're out

1238
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 1: by the time we get done recording this thing around

1239
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: two thirty now, Yeah, I think there is potential for

1240
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: a more interesting bowl game now that they're outside the playoff.

1241
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: More interesting playoff game be against the Cincinnati that could

1242
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: be interesting.

1243
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: I think Oregon might be playing Iowa State. Okay, here's

1244
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 3: North Carolina versus Texas A and M in the Orange Bowl.

1245
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: That could be a fun game.

1246
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 3: Feels like it should be a fun game. Miami's in

1247
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: the cheese At Bowl, NC State's Negator Bowl, Wake Forest,

1248
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: and the Duke's Male Bowl I think formerly the Belk Bowl.

1249
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: That's that's the only thing. Oh Nebraska opted out. I

1250
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: did see that earlier Michigan State opting out, which they

1251
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 3: actually could have made a bull game. Given twenty twenty,

1252
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 3: they have opted out. That's that's all I'm seeing right now.

1253
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: I'll keep updating you if I see other matchups.

1254
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 1: We had LSU and a comeback effort. Yeah, winning fifth

1255
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: three to forty eight over Ole Miss. Big game for Kishan,

1256
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: butte fourteen grabs threeh eight, so freaking good.

1257
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: I did not watch a lot of this game. I

1258
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 3: saw that that's one on my list for later today,

1259
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 3: just because I wanted to get through a couple times

1260
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 3: the championship games. But sounded like everybody had a ridiculous

1261
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 3: time watching this game.

1262
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: Four to thirty five passing for Max Johnson, another good

1263
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: game for him. Missisippi State wins fifty one to thirty

1264
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: two over MISSOO. Pretty much had control the whole way here.

1265
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: Three touchdowns for Will Rogers, your.

1266
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: Boy to whom to whom did to whom did he connect?

1267
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jade Wally, A nice little dude day.

1268
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: And finally in the Pac twelve, we had Stanford winning

1269
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: in double overtime. We had Utah winning by seventeen over Wazoo,

1270
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: and we had ASU winning by thirteen a lot of points,

1271
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 1: six to thirty three over Oregon State.

1272
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: Watched some moments from Stanford UCLA, and I did see

1273
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 3: Stanford did not have a single positive COVID test among

1274
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 3: players or coaches this year, which is its own accomplishment.

1275
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 3: Davis Mills to see me Forojoco. I know Mills had

1276
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: those interceptions. He claims he had the first pick six

1277
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 3: of his life. I think I saw that. Okay, it's great,

1278
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: but UCLA tried to go for it, to go for

1279
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: two for the win and did not get well. Ultimately

1280
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: it do as well. But Davis Mills largely got it

1281
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: done outside of the turnovers. But see me for Hoko

1282
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: in a year. In the last two three years, I

1283
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: suppose since Bryce Love, Stanford hasn't really had a game

1284
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: changing offensive player. See me Fajoco quickly becoming that guy

1285
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 3: out wide.

1286
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: Sixteen for two thirty and three touchdowns.

1287
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dimitric Felton did not play in this game

1288
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: and DTR got hurt SOTR challenging for both.

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Speaker 1: Mitrick Felton didn't play. But Stanford couldn't stop Britton Brown.

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Speaker 1: Correct the duke transfer couldn't stop Britten Brown on the ground.

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Speaker 1: And Chase Griffin had a good game in relief, the

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Speaker 1: smaller quarterback really good four touchdowns something like that. Had

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Speaker 1: a good game against Oregon and had a good game

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Speaker 1: against am This two passes to the touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: So yep.

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Speaker 1: Good look. We had a bunch of games to get canceled.

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Speaker 1: We talked about those on the preview at time of recording.

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Speaker 1: We've got something like eighteen or nineteen teams that have

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Speaker 1: opted out of bowl game, some bigger name teams from

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Speaker 1: Arizona State to Florida State, Penn State, UCLA, USC, Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, Washington. Washington's like there are a bunch of

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Speaker 1: big name teams. I would expect that list is going

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Speaker 1: to grow, So we'll do our best to keep you

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Speaker 1: up to date as that list continues to grow, as

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Speaker 1: we will when we actually have Bowl announcements out. We've

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Speaker 1: already got some of them starting to trickle in, but

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to do our best here to

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: keep you up to speed. Don't forget play Winter Wonders

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: is where you can play our cool Bowl prop pool.

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01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: You have to meet Patreon subscribe or to do that.

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: You can also go on out to ESPN dot com.

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Speaker 1: I did launch the confidence pool. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: tough to do a confidence pool this year.

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Speaker 3: I have no confidence in anything.

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Speaker 1: I have no confidence that the games are going to

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01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: be played, which makes it difficult. But games actually start

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Speaker 1: up on Monday, so there is a chance, as many

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Speaker 1: of you are listening to this very podcast, there will

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Speaker 1: be a game being played between app State and North

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Speaker 1: Texas Hope so so.

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Speaker 3: No Jalen Darden unfortunately for North Texas he opted out,

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Speaker 3: but we will.

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Speaker 1: We will preview as many of those games as we can.

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Speaker 1: But it's a little bit of a different schedule this year,

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Speaker 1: given the fact that the conference championship games we played

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Speaker 1: two weeks beyond when they normally would be and they

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Speaker 1: have to start the bawls otherwise we're not going to

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Speaker 1: get them all in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Some sad news here. Landon Dickerson, the Alabama center

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 3: who left that game and people were pretty pessimistic about

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 3: his chances moving forward. He did. Indeed, I think he

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Speaker 3: had MRI and it was I get I'll get the

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Speaker 3: injury correct here, ligament damage. So I don't know lig

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Speaker 3: him in it is, but he is going to miss

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Speaker 3: the playoff and so I suppose now Notre Dame and

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Speaker 3: Alabama will both be without their starting centers. It was

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Speaker 3: like Jared Patterson a few weeks ago before the North

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Speaker 3: Carolina game. So that sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, there you go. We've got our

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Speaker 1: playoffs set. We will continue to update in preview as

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01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: more bowl games are set in stone as well. M hmm,

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Speaker 1: I guess this concludes kind of our regular season. Dan,

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01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: can you believe it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You want some dudes? I can you?

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: I love some dudes.

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Speaker 3: There are so many who we got wow. Uh, Najee

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01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 3: Harris should probably be retired. Devonte Smith obviously has already

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01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 3: been retired for Florida. I'm gonna go with Cadarius. Tony

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01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 3: just so dangerous with the ball every single time he

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: had the ball in his hands. Nick starkle San Jose

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01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 3: State ty M, we're showing some love there. Spencer Brown

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Speaker 3: for U A B. Trace Sermon goes without saying as

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Speaker 3: was it ba?

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Speaker 1: I looked it up. Yeah, I promised to do better

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: with this one than dj Uyangala.

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Speaker 3: That was pretty good, but that was prescied. I mentioned

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 3: Hoko Stanford Kevon Thibodeau for Oregon all over the damn place.

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Speaker 3: I think at one point I had to leave him

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Speaker 3: go to the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Uh us.

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Speaker 3: He was scrambling to try to make a place while

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Speaker 3: he was gone. Didn't really didn't really work out all

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Speaker 3: that well really, the whole Oregon defense. Jamal Hill also

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Speaker 3: came up big for for Oregon elsewhere in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Trey Sermon the Big Ten Championship game. I'm

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Speaker 3: looking through everybody submissions. Johan Dotson apparently had a great

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Speaker 3: game for Penn State against all any game.

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Speaker 1: John Dotson be like, bye bye bye, He's gone, bye

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Speaker 1: bye bye. I don't think he's I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: declared yet, but if he doesn't go to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: I would be very surprised.

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Speaker 3: Ty Jordan for Utah. I suppose Trevor Lawrence. I mean

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Speaker 3: those a lot of performances for Clemson, but he's been retired.

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Speaker 3: Anybody else jump out to you as having particularly huge days?

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Speaker 1: Did you say, Garrett Groshek.

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Speaker 3: For oh Wisconsin? Yeah, he had a nice one.

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01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: He needed to get every ground, every yard on the ground.

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Speaker 3: For Brendan Joseph, by the way, with the one handed

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01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 3: pick of the year against Ohio State for Northwestern right

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Speaker 3: before halftime. Definitely a dude there. Otherwise, I went through

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Speaker 3: everybody's submissions, a lot of really good ones, and those

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Speaker 3: are the ones that still jump out to me as

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Speaker 3: being perhaps the most meaningful.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, we appreciate everyone writing, in, calling, in

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: subscribing to the show. The show continues throughout the entire

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01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: course of the off season, as we always have. We

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: would encourage you all again to go on out to

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01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: play Winter Wonders dot Com. Play along in our Bowl challenge.

1389
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of fun. Got a

1390
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: normal against spread picks. We got some player props. We

1391
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,560
Speaker 1: got some podcast original props that you're also going to

1392
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: find in there. You can find more details on how

1393
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Speaker 1: to join. I am ready to talk about bowls. I

1394
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: am ready to talk about new coaches. I am ready

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01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: to talk about wherever this college football season takes us next.

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Speaker 1: Wherever this college football season takes us next, Dan, But

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: it has been a pleasure going through this season with

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Speaker 1: you man as always.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, didn't know if it was going to happen, didn't

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: know what it would look like, didn't know how it

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01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: would go, how long it would go, and so yeah,

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: my highlight is just being here with you, Being here

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 3: with all the verballers, virtually love it here here, brother,

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01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 3: all right, for that guy over there, my good friend

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01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hill, and Brandt, thank you

1406
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: so so very much for hanging with us in this

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: weird year of a college football season. Stick with us

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01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: as it gets even weirder. No doubt through the postseason.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to y'll soon.

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Speaker 1: Stay solid.

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Speaker 3: Peace,