WEBVTT - HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 10 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:04.400 This is live coverage of the twenty twenty six Steelers 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:09.640 Training Camp or the Steelers Audio Network, presented by bud Light, 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.920 Easy to Drink, Easy to Enjoy, and brought to you 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:17.560 in part by your neighborhood Ford Store Creator, Pittsburgh Community 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:22.000 Food Bank, First National Bank. Let's Get Started Member FDIC 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:28.720 West Shore Home Remodeling Reimagine by Leecom Digital, Dons Appliances 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:34.400 Visit Donsappliances dot Com guaranteed lowest prices, free next day delivery, 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.479 CGR Wholesale and by Hassa's Steak and Seahouse hass is 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:41.919 Is Hospitality. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.159 Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, and welcome back to the campus 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.440 of Saint Vincent College. Here for another day of Steelers 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.440 training Camp coverage on your twenty four to seven home 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.160 of the Black and the Gold. We Matt Williamson with 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.000 you here. Matt on a little bit of a different 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:00.279 Saturday on Cape oh Verry nice and aough quiet here 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.000 at this time. You know, normally there'd still be some 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.720 some conclusion of different things going out on the fields 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:08.959 in front of us due to practice. But if you 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.360 are on your way to Saint Vincent College now, do 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.920 not come here you want to go to downtown Latrob 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.680 Latrob Memorial because tonight is, of course the annual evening 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.679 practice MATT used to be called Friday Night Lights. Now 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.520 it's on a Saturday, and that will be tonight at 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:24.120 six o'clock. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.120 Yeah, and it's a good time. I urge people to 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.119 check it out. I mean, it can be a mad house. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:32.160 It's a very upbeat, fun situation. You get pretty close 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.800 to the players that are usually really good about autographs 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.319 and interacting with the fans. But I think campus is 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.560 so weird this day too, you know, Like I woke 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.960 up to the hotel and my first job for SNR 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.480 was being here with you at three, and we decided 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:52.040 would have a quaint little pre show lunch. We did, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.160 and we we'll meet you about two fifteen over the 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.960 cafe here. All right, sounds good. I get there before you, 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.240 and I'm the only non worker in there, just kind 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:02.920 of sitting here. I'm like, am I am I the 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.960 last guy at the bar, and everyone's. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.320 Like get this guy out of here. 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.040 And like get out of here. They're flicking the lights. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.760 And then you came strolling NFL a little better, and 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.120 then TJ. Watt came in with another player. So I'm like, well, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.320 if TJ's here, they're staying open. But I mean, like 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.040 the campus is just so different. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.360 I texted Mat. I was like, I'm walking into the 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.920 cafeteria now. He was like, I don't think you have 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.560 any trouble finding right, Like it was the only literally 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.720 other than the workers, he was the only one in there. 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.320 And then yeah, buffling the floors and like I better 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:30.799 get out. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.840 Of here, like geez, Louise. It's like it's like it 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.760 felt like the last day when we're when we used 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.320 to stay at the Combine like a day like everybody else, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.560 and they'd be tearing down all the radio row stuff 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.480 around us while we were doing shows. Yeah, yeah, quiet one. Today, 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.000 some players did start to trickle into I don't know 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.840 if you want to call it lunch at about you know, 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.840 closer to three, when you and I were heading back 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:49.320 over here. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.280 There was nourishment available. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.000 Yes, which makes sense because I know I think they 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:54.880 all slept in a little bit today. I know it 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.360 was a more of a brunch than a breakfast for 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.200 the team to make share makes sense. And obviously they 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.760 have practice at six o'clock, so I'm sure you know 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.520 a two thirty three o'clock kind of light lunch slash 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.919 early type dinner for these guys have a little snack 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.440 before practice, and then of course tonight, I'm sure they 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.440 feast after They will feast afterwards. Tonight. There'll be all 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.720 kinds of food around campus, like there're all always is food, trucks, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.680 Taco bell, pizza, you name it. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.840 And what is miss though in the dorms when you 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:29.320 came back from Yeah, boy, there is so much pizza 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.440 and so much taco bell thanks to the Steeler folks 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.760 that do that. We're not gonna enjoy it this year. 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.000 But you come home at eleven or midnight, or if 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.400 you go to a little watering hole before go down 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.160 the right wing, and it's like here, take thirty tacos 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:44.800 because we can't eat them all. It's nuts. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.920 And then you could almost you could almost double all 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:49.400 the amount of people in the dorms and there would 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.720 probably still be enough food for everyone in there. Yeah, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.760 and typically you know, Friday night lights and then a 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.040 Saturday practice and so we would all be back here. 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.120 But with the day off tomorrow, unfortunately, Matt and I 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.480 will not be gorging ourselves with a free taco bell 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.320 and pizza and stuff. Later this evening we'll be heading home, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.240 but we have plenty of ground to get to before 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.440 we get there. Matt, I, I don't know if you 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.000 and I have ever really discussed this on air, but 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.320 I when I have time to kill, like when I'm 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.600 traveling somewhere, but I'm not in a hurry, a lot 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.280 of times I like to take a different route. I'm 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.520 a back roads guy when I can be Okay, that's 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.200 probably that's probably the best way to put it. So 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.200 today when I was driving out here, instead of getting 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.120 on the turnpike, I kind of took the the longer 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.840 way to get heretra exactly right, like Paul McCartney. It's uh, 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.640 it's an extra way, extra, you know, fifteen to twenty 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:38.719 minutes to get here, but it saves me a few 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:41.480 bucks on turnpike tolls. And I wasn't in a hurry anyways. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.360 I was a little ahead of schedule, So the way 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.440 that I took, Actually. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.520 I would never do that, No, I don't. I don't 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.279 even know. I had no reason to be here early, 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.320 but I just got to get there fast possible. See, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.159 that's that is bad mentality by me. That is, enjoy life, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:55.000 enjoy the journey. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.599 But see, I'm most of the time I'm like you. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.440 I'm like, I have to get from I've been in 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.400 a car with you. I am shocked hear this. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.320 But today I left plenty early, like you and I 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.800 were meeting for a two fifteen lunch. I was like, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.880 I've got some time. So I took the roundabout way, 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.240 save a little money on some turnpike tolls to get here. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.120 And the way that I took on ways brought me 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.920 through Latrobe actually, so I kind of came in through 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:19.640 downtown Latrobe on the back side. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.680 Of camps and yes, oh it's awesome, yeah. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.520 Very very scenic, very pretty. And so it was a 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.560 little before two o'clock when I was pulling, you know, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.760 probably one fifty ish when I'm humming through Latrobe, and 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.880 already there's all kinds of people lined up, there's all 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.080 kinds of oh, and there's already traffic. There's already like 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.520 police officers on every corner like directing traffic and telling 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.520 people where to go. And that was four hours before practice. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.880 It's a long time back. That is a very beautiful 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.479 scenic route. You know, I often have come from a 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.720 family camp that we go to. Then I come through 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:54.720 all the way through there and there's some beautiful areas. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.000 But I see what you're saying. I hadn't thought of 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.520 that though. I mean, like the whole town is going 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:03.400 to be in and parking can Parking can be difficult, folks. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.480 It's probably difficult now already. Yeah, you know, almost still 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.240 three hours away here, not surprised. And again it's always 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:13.000 a mad house down there when it's on a Friday night. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:15.840 With this being a Saturday, I can only imagine it's 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.600 gonna be quite the scene there at Latrob Memorial. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.480 Getting there earlier, there. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.920 Were already a few dozen cars there lined up ready 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.360 to go at at two o'clock, you know, about four 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.000 hours before things get going. Uh, it's always a lot 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.279 of fun. As Matt mentioned, that's probably about as close 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.800 as you can get to the guys. Uh. They usually 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.160 do autograph sessions and fireworks and all that fun kind 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:40.920 of stuff with it as well too. So big night 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:43.839 down a Latrob Memorial. If you're heading to campus here 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:47.400 for practice tonight, do not re route. It's only that don't. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:47.760 Come to campus. 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:48.440 Don't come to campus. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:49.400 Someone always does. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.400 Somebody always I'm sure when we get close at the 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.000 end of the show, we'll see some people coming up 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.240 here in campus security turning them around. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:56.200 They'll be unhappy. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.919 They'll be unhappy. The good news for them is it's on. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.560 It's only about five minutes down the Yeah, it's not 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.800 like your way out of your way. But do not 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.240 come to Saint Vincent College this evening. You're headed to 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.800 Latrobe Memorial High School or latrob Memorial Stadium. Part of 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.160 me there at Latrobe High School Stadium because that's where 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.760 the Saturday Night Lights proceedings will begin at six o'clock. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.200 Matt and I have you up until six. We've got 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.120 plenty to get to Between now and then we will 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.360 hear from some Steelers coordinators who spoke earlier today. It 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.360 was kind of coordinator Day, which is always an interesting 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.720 time because those guys, Yeah, we hear from them regularly enough, 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.080 but not obviously as. 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:32.840 Much as kind of special occurrence as you. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.920 Hear from Mike McCarthy and some of the players. So 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.640 we'll get to some of that as we roll along. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.280 We need to wrap up our exercise last days of 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:44.640 comparing last year's roster positioned by position too. Yeah, this 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.240 year's roster. We still have a offensive line and defensive 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.040 line to discuss, so plenty of ground to cover. But Matt, 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.760 some news of the day items here as we get started, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:57.920 and I think two, you know what, actually, before we 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.400 go across the commonwealth of Philadelphia, let's stay our very 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.520 own division here where Zay Flowers, who, of course ravens 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.679 wide receiver, just signed that contract extension a few days ago. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:13.160 Day to day now after a quad contusion in practice, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.720 left leg left quad day to day after colliding with 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.080 a teammate in this morning's practice. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.520 Yeah, and who's to say, I mean, day to day 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.040 doesn't sound bad when you're looking at a star player 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.520 who just signed a new deal like last week. Yeah, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.920 like very very recent, just tried. Yeah, I think just 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.360 dried now it is a new offense. But still Lamar 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.800 and Zay are gonna probably be fine. I doubt he 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.240 would have played one snap in the preseason anyway, So 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.240 I don't think this is, at least according to initial 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.640 reports that happened today, right, I thought so this morning. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.240 I would not overreact to that. I assume they shut 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.160 him down. He's too important, far and away their top 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:51.880 pass catcher. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.800 Yes, and that's I mean, that's kind of what Jesse 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.440 Minter said, is that he's going to miss a little 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.760 time here, but we don't think it's going to be 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.520 anything long term, but certainly something to keep an eye 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:05.040 on here from around the league today. Also, Matt, little 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:07.880 scuffle between Kirk Cousins and mac Max Crosby. Did you 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:08.400 hear about this? 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.280 And I did? 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.360 They both sat out practice today. They benched them both 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.680 for a day after their scuffle yesterday. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.920 Tin foil hat if I'm the team that picked first 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:23.080 overall last year and a highly respected new guy, Kirk Cousins, 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.959 been around the league, model citizen. Nothing wrong with this guy, 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:33.319 squeaky clean defensive player. You're clearly best player and foundation 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.760 of that defense since he's been there and not much 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.080 around him. I would have scripted this fight. I'm serious. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.040 I want to I want you know, I want to 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.360 cause waves between you know, cause commotion and hey go 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.120 take a shot at Kirk and Kirk Hey be be aware. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:50.319 You know. 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.480 I'm not saying it's like WWE, but it's not a 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:55.400 bad thing. But those when when when I heard it 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:59.360 was those two on that team, new coach, they were 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.360 terrible last new culture new area, right right right. I 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.400 want my guys fighting for me on both sides of 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.160 the ball. Like if it had been some backup guard 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.360 in mac Crosby, I wouldn't even thought twice about it. 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.880 If it's Kirk Cousins, like Cousins fighting any backup linebacker. 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.360 Yeah right, interesting. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.320 I bet you Max didn't take him by the face 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.199 and throw him on the ground and stomp on his neck, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:17.640 you know what I mean? 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.320 I bet he did not, right, I bet he did not. Though, Yeah, 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.120 it was a wonder if he told Kirk Cousins you 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.200 like that, you like that? But I thought that was 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:27.520 the notable they had them sit out today. You might 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:28.319 be onto something there. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:29.800 So it just seems a little fishy. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.520 Setting a bit of a new culture out there in 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:33.000 the desert in Las Vegas. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.600 Could be good for all. You see those two battling out. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:35.520 I'm gonna battle it out. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.720 Heck, hey, that's ain't that the truth? If your if 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.920 your top dogs are uh are putting that much into it, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.320 everybody better be putting that much into it, Matt. 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.360 And we don't want Fernando throwing so we'll just. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.040 Like Kirk, we don't want him taking a taking an 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.400 unnecessary shot to the face or anything throwing hand. And 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.120 then Matt I think two pieces of news today just 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.839 worth mentioning from across the commonwealth in Philadelphia, the first 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.160 lane Johnson saying that twenty twenty six is probably my 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.560 last year. So he didn't say definitely, but he said 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.840 this is probably my last year. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:06.000 Certainly not surprising. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.600 And the Eagles also is Sean Mannion saying today new 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.360 Eagles offensive coordinator that they will plan to continue to 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.000 lean into the push push in their new offense. 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.640 Okay, there has been a little bit of speculation if 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.800 it would be Hurts Stower's. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.360 Yeah, Eli Stowers out of Vanderbilt. 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.600 Has a background playing quarterback. I think Goddard has taken 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.800 snaps of times before. Yes, Godard, I mean, Hurts is 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.920 so good at it. I don't know why you change. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.000 But there is theories out there that whyever give your 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.480 quarterback an unnecessary hit or in a big pile and 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:41.640 somebody's chewing on his ankle or whatever. 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:45.880 Right, Yeah, nothing, And I don't know because I didn't 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.920 obviously hear the full audio. You just see some of 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.120 the quotes, but I don't see anything about you know, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.040 was there a follow up of his Jalen Hurts still 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.960 going to be primarily the guy in those duties, but 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.560 basically he said, you know, it's something that we've executed 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:59.679 at a high level. It's something that will be part 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:01.920 of our our offense here in twenty twenty six. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.240 It's been pretty unstoppable for what like five years. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.400 I mean, in a large part there is not I mean, 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.040 there's been a couple of individual times where they got stopped, 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.679 but overall it's not like anyone is nable success right, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.520 exactly right, exactly right. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:16.680 Especially when Kelsey was there no. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.720 Doubt, no doubt, one of the one of the better 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.160 centers of his generation. But that's kind of it. In 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:22.720 terms of news of the day today, a little bit 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.080 of a quieter day obviously today Gold Jacket Day. So 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.840 congratulations to all those guys that was it that was 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:33.040 at noon out in Canton, Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Adam Vinteri, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:36.520 Luke Keigley and of course Roger Craig, the five that 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:41.640 were enshrined this afternoon. Congratulations to those guys. Always always 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.520 a really cool day there and kind of another one 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.360 of those it's another one of those benchmarks in the 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.800 off season. That man, we are really getting close to 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:48.440 this thing here. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.760 Yeah, they just inducted them and we have played a 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.079 football game. It's not the greatest one ever. But this 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.880 week we have preseason games coming. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.160 We do, yeah, regulars play and what five days here? Thursday, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:00.760 Thursday against the past at. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.079 The earliest of any game this week, I think. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.520 So, I don't know if there's ones on Wednesday or not. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.760 That's a that's a good question. Let's see here. No, Thursday, Ursday, 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.040 Thursday is the first one. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:11.920 The start of week one of the preseason. 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.880 It is correct. There's games Thursday, there's games Friday, there's 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.440 games Saturday. And I think these interesting, even a couple 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:18.040 games Sunday. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.120 I mean, like I've been kind of joking all along. 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.839 You know, the Hall of Fame games super anti climatic, 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.520 These aren't. I mean there's a lot of rookies, in 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:29.480 particular that you evaluated Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt and like, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.199 what's he looked like in the pros? You know, so 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:32.200 these are important. 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:33.680 I think by the time we get to that third 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.199 preseason game, you're kind of like, oh, kind enough that 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.240 I've had the first ones. You're absolutely right, We especially. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.679 For two weeks. I feel like I can't watch enough. Yes, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:43.719 Like even if I'm just sitting home doing nothing, I'll 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.160 put on the NFL network and they replay the games 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.800 all day and everything. It's like, I just want to 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.160 get a little more glimpses of everybody, But you can't 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:50.520 do it all. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.440 A lot of guys that we spend the whole offseason 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.280 talking about through the you know, the combine and the 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.160 draft process and all that stuff that you get your 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.160 first look at in an NFL stadium. And yeah, it 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:02.280 gonna be fun on Thursday when we when we finally 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.280 get some some real tangible action between the Steelers and 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.360 the Packers. So with that, Matt, I mean, this is 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.119 a pretty important night tonight because the team is off Tomorrow, 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.400 Sunday day off, Monday, Tuesday practice, and then that's it 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.720 before your next preseason game. So you only have three 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.000 practices here before your first preseason game because the guys 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:23.760 will be off Wednesday, obviously game Thursday, they'll be off Friday, 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.240 and then back to campus for kind of the final 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.280 stretch of the Saint Vincent College proportion a portion part 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.600 of me of training camp here. So an important one 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.320 starting tonight in these kind of last couple of practices 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.160 to really show something before you got to get out 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:39.360 onto the field in the game setting. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.720 Yeah, I mean, if you're a borderline roster guy that 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.640 the clock is ticking very rapidly. You and I you know, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.400 at lunch brought this up too. It's like, we really 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.000 don't have that many more nights here. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:50.320 We don't. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.480 Yeah, I mean, there's to be some back and forth 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.440 and we're gonna be at Akushore and we're gonna be 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.080 doing things like that, but we don't have that many 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.360 more nights here. No. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.400 I think in fact now, in terms of a number 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.600 of practices, I think we are now over halfway. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:04.840 I think we're definitely over half way. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.480 Yeah, night will be nine of four fourteen or nine 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.960 of fifteen, so we're still we're we're definitely. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:12.400 It's an even number. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:17.520 Definitely over halfway. And and where again it always happens 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.120 so quickly this time of year, but you're starting to 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:22.640 run out of real opportunity to make a name for 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.880 yourself in these settings. If you're one of these guys 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.680 who's uh, who's vying for some of those spots at 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:27.120 the bottom of. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:28.720 The roster, Yeah, you got to hit the ground running 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.960 if you're those guys and make an impact. And I'm 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.640 not being critical of the way camp is run nowadays, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:36.920 but I think it's harder now than it was back 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:37.280 in the day. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:37.920 I would agree. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.840 By this point in Jalen Warren's rookie career a rookie season, 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.560 Dale and I were like, he's a teammate or his 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.640 number thirty, he's been great and backed on backers, How 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.000 do you keep him off the roster? There aren't those 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.560 undrafted dudes. Maybe we just missed them. Maybe the staff 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.800 is like, there's two or three of these quote no 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.360 name guys that are really good slaughter the corners the 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.280 guy people have been talking about. Okay, but it's not 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.080 as glaringly obvious as it used to be. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.200 Things have changed around here a little bit, Matt Williamson, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.960 some some of us are still trying to have a 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.480 full grasp on all the different movement and shaking here 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.280 all the grounds. But we are getting closer and closer, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.320 I think, to figure in that whole thing out here, 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.960 and obviously tonight a big step in the process. Hopefully 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.520 everybody who's maybe you're in the car now getting ready 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.480 to head down this way. Maybe you're sitting in the 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.280 car over at Latroe Memorial. 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See Okay on this Saturday. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:09.959 Pretty hard yesterday, but I'm ready to dig in. 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.440 We sure did I think we did like a whole 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.719 fantasy football hour yesterday. Yeah, we'll just do a segment 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.639 here today. But uh, Matt, I can never remember if 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:19.879 it's Okada I think is how he pronounces his last name. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.360 Of NFL dot Com. I'm not sure if you're familiar 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:23.840 with him, but he's the fantasy He's one of the 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:28.879 fantasy writers for NFL dot Com. He gave fourteen of 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.160 the best breakout fantasy football candidates in twenty twenty six. Okay, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.160 so a few quarterbacks, running backs, few wide receivers, et cetera. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:37.760 And I just want to roll through the sky. 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.120 Think you take a lead this guy. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.159 Yes, exactly right, guys who were as you can imagine, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:44.760 most of the name on this list are like second 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.920 and third of your guys. But you know who who 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.000 is maybe undervalued in a little bit in this sense 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.680 from fantasy football perspective. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.199 Along these lines, a big topic of conversation in the 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.440 fantasy community is who's this year's Jackson Smith and the 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.000 jigbo the very good player, the guy you take in 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:05.880 the fifth, sixth round it's a starter, but can become 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.840 a league winner totally, you know, totally. Or there's guys 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.359 that are unrosterble last year that all of a sudden 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.720 you get super late that or every week starters for you. 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:14.680 That's how you went. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.639 That is one hundred how you win. Like I told you, 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.120 I mean Justin Jefferson was in my big money league 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.080 with my buddies, the one that I really care about, 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.359 Justin Jefferson. I got him like fourth or fifth overall, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:28.720 which I was stoked with at the time. He obviously 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.199 has having by his standards, a very poor year. But 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.200 I also got Trey McBride way late in the draft. 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.080 And he had an unbelievable year, So those things kind 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:36.560 of balanced each other out a little bit. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.040 And frankly, there's not a lot of skill to drafting 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.000 in the first two rounds. I mean, anyone that really 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.560 doesn't know anything's working off a list. Whether I wrote 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:45.719 the list or you wrote the list, it's still you're 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.000 gonna take basically the same. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.200 People, Yes, albeit maybe just in a little bit of 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:49.840 a different order. 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:50.480 Yeah. Yeah. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.000 So two quarterbacks listed as Fantasy football breakout candidates for 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.280 this season, Matt, I think I like one of these 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:57.840 and I don't know how I feel about the other. 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:59.959 Let's start with the one. I'm not sure about Jackson 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:01.639 Dart although. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.360 Yeah, he's better for fantasy than the real world. 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.600 And that's something I always have to remind myself when 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:06.800 we have these conversations. 0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:09.760 Runs a ton. I don't know if Harbaugh will be 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.800 his you know, last year's head coach was basically trying 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.280 to save his job and the offense is falling apart, 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:19.960 and he's calling a lot of design quarterback runs and 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.600 it wasn't real smart, you know. I mean, in terms 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.040 of big picture for the Giants, I would think Harbaugh 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.080 with much more job security calls, fewer runs, but the 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.480 lines better looks like neighbors is healthy. By all accounts. 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:40.080 I think he's a fine Fantasy's player, and I understand it. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.320 I don't love the player overall, but it's not like 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.600 he's gonna get bench this year either. If he's not 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.080 the long term answer, so what, he'll be fine. I 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:50.920 think he also durability worries. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.800 Durability is worrisome, but he's got a better supporting cast 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.159 around him, or real least should this year. That is 0:20:56.200 --> 0:20:58.960 an interesting angle, though. Will Harbaugh run him as much? 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:03.400 Probably not, But you know, I mean, even if he's 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.240 still I guess similarly close, he could still. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.840 Do things on his own. One note, though that works 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.800 in darts favor is at quarterback in a traditional like 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:18.160 one quarterback league, I'm not real worried about their ability. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:19.800 I can always find if my guy gets. 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:21.919 Hurt in week four, here's Trevor Lawrence out here. 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.000 Somebody or I can make a deal with it. You know, 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.760 they're not that hard to acquire. Somebody that can keep 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:27.479 me alive. 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:30.200 Tell you what, though, it is while twelve starts last year, 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.120 Matt he had almost five hundred rush yards for eighty 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:36.760 seven and nine touchdowns rushing in twelve and twelve starts. 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.800 I mean, even if he has had in seventeen games, 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.040 that's a massive fantasy commodity. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:42.800 If he does that again, he could end up being 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:43.600 one of the top. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:44.680 He could be a top three or four. 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:46.760 Here, four or five fantasy football quarterback. 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.280 Never underestimate rushing for quarterbacks. It's a cheeka. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:54.280 The second the other and the second quarterback on this 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:55.919 list is cam Ward. 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.240 Yes, but he's still a long way from being fantasy relevant, Like, 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.479 is he really even a top twenty four guy? I 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.199 love him, you know, I think if he told me 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.359 the Steelers first round pick could turn into cam Ward 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:10.159 next year, sign me up. I think he's gonna be 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.280 really good. Might have the worst oh Lion league, still 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.280 have subpar weapons, doesn't run like you think he does, though, 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:22.240 even though he's a pretty athletic dude. I probably could 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.560 come up with twenty quarterbacks. I'm still drafting ahead of him, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.280 you know, Like, do you take him or Stroud? I mean, 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:30.119 like Stroud's a much better player and more established, but 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.679 they're both a long way from being. Like we were 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.879 talking about Schuck yesterday, he makes more sense to me 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:37.800 than Ward, even though I think Ward is a better. 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.040 Prospect fantasy football versus. 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:41.600 Yeah, exactly, They're two different worlds. 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.240 The one thing that they outline here about cam Ward 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:48.040 is that after his Week ten bye week last season, 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:52.160 he threw ten touchdown passes just one interception, nearly doubled 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:55.479 his Fantasy football points per pass attempt down the stretch. 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:57.639 That's a great point. I didn't realize it was that strong. 0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.239 I do. You got better as the season went on 0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.840 despite having a horrible situation. I mean, the old line 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.640 was crumbling, there was no one to throw to. Those 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.440 things are a little better now, but I mean, imagine 0:23:07.440 --> 0:23:10.080 being the first overall pick and your head coach gets 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.840 fired in like October. I think it was. 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.200 Yes, oh man, that's a rough. 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.719 That's tough sledding, and he did recover and put up numbers. 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.800 Four running backs listed here, Matt the first, Quinn Shawn 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.800 Jenkins of the Cleveland Browns earned ninety three point three 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.959 percent of his rushing yards after contact last season. 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:30.480 That's funny he went down there. I was about to 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:31.320 say the same thing, more. 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.840 Or less, the highest of anyone in the top fifty 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:35.520 of rushing attempts. 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:38.680 Like if you look at I don't think offensive line 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.280 stats are a real thing. You know, pressures and all 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.040 you know, but they are at least a guideline. They're 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.639 not cutting dry like catches and yards or blah blah blah. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.840 But if you look at the Browns run game last year, 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:56.520 yards before first contact a distant last it was not good. 0:23:56.760 --> 0:24:00.119 And they and they threw away their whole line h. 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:02.440 Four new O line starters this year. 0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:05.320 Yeah, and I love this player. I think Judkins is 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:06.080 really good. 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.399 And they're young, but some more viable wide receivers ye 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.040 to take some attention away too. 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:13.879 The problem with the Browns though, or Judkins, to me, 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.399 is all that change isn't necessarily good. It's probably better 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.960 than last year, but I always be careful to say 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:22.040 that things can always. 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:23.920 Get could always get worse, or they can at least 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:25.800 take a good amount of time to get. 0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.840 Better or a tiny step better and go from thirty 0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:30.480 second to thirtieth. And that's still not where I want 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.920 to be in terms of churning out touchdowns and first 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.040 downs and those type of things. But they pulled Judkins 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.080 off the field a lot in passing situations, and if 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.240 they're losing in the fourth quarter, he might just sit 0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.119 there with holding his helmet on the sideline. You know, 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:45.320 it gets frustrating. 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.800 Another one second one on this list, Matt is A 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:50.760 is a one of those, as you would have kind 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:52.840 of just described a few minutes ago, almost out of 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.840 nowhere type guys. Jonathan Brooks running back of the Carolina Panthers. 0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:00.480 He has just twelve career touches for forty five yards 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.240 and has yet to score his first NFL touchdown at 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.840 this point, but apparently they've been raving about him in camp. Yes, 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:11.040 and obviously there's a lot of room for growth in 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:12.320 that Carolina backfield. 0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.120 Yeah. And I mean he was the first draft back 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.800 drafted several years ago out of Texas. He was kind 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.800 of overshadowed by Bejean for a while and then he 0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:25.080 stepped up and had a huge role there. Unbelievable injury history, 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.600 but he looks like he's over it, or at least 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.159 has been totally cleared. Having a great camp. I mean 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.159 that's come from multiple sorts as national people, local people, 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.520 and I like Chewba Hubbard, but he's not the hardest 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.600 guy to go past, you know, I mean, on their 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:42.400 best day, Brooks is the more talented player, so he's 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:44.719 a target of mine too, because you can get him 0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:46.199 late enough, like, oh, you. 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:47.399 Can get him real late. 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:47.680 Yeah. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.480 Yeah, He's an interesting one to keep an eye on. 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.280 Write that down class at home. Third one maybe a 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:58.560 similar type conversation. Jordan Mason is his third running back 0:25:58.600 --> 0:25:59.160 listed here. 0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.040 I think it has a chance to be a very 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.760 good offense. He's a Viking by the way, folks. Aaron 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:06.119 Jones is up in age. 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.600 But turns thirty two this season. 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.880 He also never seems to die either. I mean he's 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.440 still hanging around in effect that he used to be productive. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:16.240 And they drafted this kid, Clayborne out of wake Forest 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.520 who it is a smaller scat back type that can fly. 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.880 But his reports have been really good. I get it, though. 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.640 I would think Mason's going to be the short yardage guy, 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.800 be your touchdown getter. It's fine. I just don't think 0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:32.040 he's a real high ceiling I would rather roll the 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.680 dice on backs like Jonathan Brooks that might hit big, 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:35.920 hit big Yeah. Yeah. 0:26:35.960 --> 0:26:38.439 This next guy, Matt the last one running trying to. 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.600 Come in second here. I should have said that when 0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:42.880 we start talking fantasy regularly. Like I'm trying to build 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.440 a team, not to like get in the playoffs. I'm 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:48.320 trying to win the league by far and embarrass my friends. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.160 You're not trying to hit doubles into the gap. You're 0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.399 trying to smack grand slams out of the park. 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:55.040 Every pick needs to be swing for the fences because 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:56.480 I need four or five of them to hit. 0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.199 Last running back listed here Matt and he might be 0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:02.720 the most boom or bust Fantasy football candidate this season. 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.000 It's Cam Scataboo old Johnny Knox Bell himself. 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.360 Yeah, he puts up numbers when he's out there. He's 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.360 not for me, but he catches the ball more than 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:14.000 you think they are gonna They have a better row 0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:17.200 line there. They're trotting out Patrick Ricard and know it's 0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.719 gonna be a bunch of big people. But his injuries 0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:22.520 hurt you more than darts, you know, Like if you 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.280 only get five games out of him and you use 0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.560 the fourth round pick and in your league for him, 0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.840 because he's not super cheap, I don't know. I mean, 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:30.880 he's a little bit of a shy away. 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:33.520 He scares me, he does. And he's another one that 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.080 could absolutely hit massive, but he could he could play 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.200 four games and be out for the rest of the season. 0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.000 Those would be running backs on the Fantasy Football Breakout 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:46.800 Candidates list, Matt Now. Wide receivers first up on the 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.159 list here. This is actually a name I think we 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.280 discussed maybe a week or so ago. It's Parker Washington 0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:51.920 of the Jags. 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:55.400 Yeah. He's just a really good football player, and he's 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:59.359 gonna get extended here soon. I would imagine people be like, Wow, 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:03.240 that much money for Parker Washington. Yeah, he's checked every box, 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:07.320 good after the catch, kind of a Golden Tate type 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.400 of power, shorter slot guy, really good with the ball 0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.359 in his hands. I think he's a real good player. 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:18.240 It's just we mentioned this yesterday with Jacksonville wide receiver. 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.400 Because some people are saying to stay away crowdide receivers. Yeah. 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:22.800 I mean, I like the player. I wish he was 0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.000 a Steeler. It'd be like a great number three here, 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:27.840 But I just don't know where the ball's going in Jacksonville. 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.520 I probably staying away from all Jag receivers. 0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.280 Second wide receiver Listen is a name that we just 0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:40.760 discussed from the AFC North Zay Flowers. Yeah, fine and everything. 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.800 For him to make a leap and really fit the 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.959 title of this article, he needs to go from like 0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.160 four touchdowns to ten because he still gets the ball, 0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.280 it's just he didn't. He's not getting in the end 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:52.800 zone a lot. 0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.640 One of the stats that you liked, Zay Flowers ranked 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.240 third in yards per route run among players with three 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.400 hundred plus routes last year, only behind JSN and Puka Nakula. 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.920 And I think there's some misconception that he's just a 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:09.440 little gadgety type dude. He runs the big boy routes. 0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:11.960 He does in breakers, he runs deep outs, deep ends. 0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.480 I mean, so he's a pretty developed player. 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.480 He's just smaller third wide receiver listed here heading into 0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.840 his sophomore season fresh off the NFL Offensive Rookie of 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.240 the Year tet McMillan. 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:25.680 Yes, and what I really like about him, and I 0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.840 hope the Brasle injury doesn't get in the way of 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.400 this is they're gonna move him around a lot more. 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.560 He was just like the big outside X running you know, 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.360 outside the number of stuff, and then they got Brazzle 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.840 to be that tall take the top off dude. But 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.600 now he's out. But I assume the offense will all 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.800 go through McMillan in more of a Ceedee Lamb type 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.680 of way. And he's really good. He's he's exceptional. 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.000 He gonna has a chance to be special certainly. Number three, 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.840 maybe not maybe not quite to the Jamar Chase type tier, 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.560 but I think he could be in that, in that 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.800 next uh, that next grouping firmly by the end of 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.360 this season. Number three, Matt a guy who's gonna have 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.920 more opportunity because Michael Pittman Junior is no longer in Indianapolis. 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:07.080 It's Josh Downs. 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.800 I love Josh Downs. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.480 T You've been talking him up since last year. 0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.200 Him and Jaden Reid are two guys that are smaller 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.160 that have been slot only or slot mostly than now. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.800 Some of the guys have kind of gotten either way. However, 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.360 Josh Downs is like one hundred and seventy pounds. I mean, 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.040 there just aren't many one hundred and sub one point 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:30.680 eighty wide receivers in this league. They're consistently putting up 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.840 points week after week for you. But I love the player. 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.360 I think he might start to get over valued. 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.720 Here's an interesting one, Matt. It is Michael Wilson Cardinals 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:41.440 wide receiver. 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:42.960 That's a tough one for me. 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.600 Just because of like, he had a really good back 0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:49.000 half of the season, phenomenal and you know, some some 0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.920 speculation around Marvin Harrison Junior's future and just not another 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.200 a lot of other than Trey McBride kind of pass 0:30:56.280 --> 0:31:00.240 catchers in that offense. But that's a volatile situation. 0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:05.160 Fattal situation because their passing pie was so large last year. 0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.680 They threw all the time, partially because they were losing, 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.760 and that might keep up too, but it was almost 0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:15.200 an unsustainable amount of pass attempts. And Wilson really came 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.400 on when Harrison was out. McBride was great top to bottom. 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.640 I have no worries about McBride, but I wonder is 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:26.280 that Wilson or Harrison and can they coexist? And I 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:27.920 also think Love's going to catch some balls. 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.560 He better better? Right, you drafted draft drafted that highly? 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.320 You better? And then Matt last one on this list, sorry, 0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:37.000 two tight ends here to round out this list. The 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.360 first and there's a lot of giants on this list. 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.400 Isaiah likely maybe. 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:42.719 Maybe, I mean I think they went out of their 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.640 way to get him to feature him. He's a dark 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:50.720 friendly guy. Obviously the Ravens connection with Harbaugh, I'm fine 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.440 with it. I don't know that he'd be my starter. 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.400 Like if I was waiting on tight end, I might 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.440 take likely and another one quickly after and kind of 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:00.000 platoon hum until see who emerged. 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:05.240 Then the last one, Matt is Chiggy Oconquo of the Commanders. 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.560 I really liked him as a super late like last 0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:11.240 pick in the draft type of guy, especially before the 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.600 step one Diggs situation. 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.560 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because. 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.240 Now I think he was. He went from two on 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.760 the pecking order to three, which still makes him relevant, 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.840 and he is a pass catcher. He's not a bad 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.720 late flyer though. That gave him decent money. 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:29.320 That is a good point though, because a few days 0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.480 ago he was probably their number two, number two, number 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:32.960 two target, and three is still good. 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:34.400 It's so fine for a tight end two. 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:36.680 You could see some real value there if you. 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.600 Can find tight ends that you're pretty confident or the 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.720 two I mean there's like Bowers is the one that's rare. 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.240 Of course, you're usually not going to be unsatisfied. 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.360 With that little fantasy football focus for you all on 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.600 this Saturday. As we get closer and closer to draft season, 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.680 we'll round out the first hour of the show when 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.920 we return. 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And I do think 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.239 that that is a that is an errator there right now. 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.719 I think they're just doing that really rough beat up 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.560 brown spot right between the hashes. 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:39.480 Field still looks really good in front of us, but 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:41.920 between the hashes there are some beat up brown spots, 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:45.799 as Matt mentioned, particularly between the thirty yard lines to 0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:46.600 the center of the field. 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.799 Yeah, just on one side, but yes, the other side, 0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:49.879 the little but it's like. 0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:51.799 The thirty to the fifty yard line there. That must 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:54.120 have been where the big boys we're doing some hamhocking. 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.359 I'm wondering if that's where they usually kick field goals. 0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.080 That way too, I bet you that's part of that's 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.960 part of the definitely, yeah, definitely, Matt. 0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.440 We have an exercise to wrap up that we started 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.680 at the beginning of camp. That was a pretty simple one, 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.520 just picking a position group or two and going through 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.600 the steeler man. That machine is moving. 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:12.800 Yeah, it is a lot going on there, right. 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:17.560 A position group and comparing where they're at this year 0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.160 to where they were at, you know, three hundred and 0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.919 sixty five ish days ago last year. Yep, we still 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.360 have to do the offensive line and the defensive line. 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.640 Let's take a look at the offensive line here, Matt. 0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.960 We'll start on the offensive side of the football. A 0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:34.160 lot of familiar names still, but certainly there's been some change. 0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:34.920 Yeah. 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:39.440 Last year in twenty twenty five, it was Broderick, Sayamalu, Frasier, 0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.520 Mason McCormick, and Troy Faltanu from left to right. 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.000 That was our starters at this point of the season. 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:46.760 That was your starters at this point in the season. 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.440 You had Spencer Anderson, You had Calvin Anderson as as 0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:54.160 depth pieces there as well as Dylan Cook. So that 0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:58.600 was the twenty twenty five group. This year obviously similar names, 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:01.560 but in different order left to right now Troy Falton, Who, 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:06.560 Mason McCormick, Zach Fraser, Spencer Anderson, Dylan Cook, Maxie Honatcher, 0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.760 brock Hoffman, Jennings, Dunker, Broderick Jones. 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:12.200 You know, I don't think it's close. 0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.480 I don't think it's close. 0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:15.759 Yeah, I mean so if you kind of go through 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:20.720 it super quick, my opinion of Fraser or McCormick certainly 0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.840 hasn't dropped. I mean, at a minimum, it's the same. 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.120 I mean, at the worst, if you're trying to fight 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:29.799 for last year's group, it's like, well, they're the equals. Well, 0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.399 I probably even like them more now. 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.520 In last year's group too, we had barely seen anything 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:34.680 at Troy Faltone at that point. 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.080 That's what say. He was much more of an unknown, 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.840 and you're much more confident or happy where he is 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.600 in his career too, so that he blows the doors 0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:46.680 off his former self. Broderick, Unfortunately, you have to think 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:48.560 less of Yes, I mean you have to, Yes, you 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.080 have to, there's no doubt about it. 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:51.839 But he might be the only one that's kind of 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.600 done the arrow down thing with the rest. 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.600 Are I mean, Spencer is an arrow up Dylan Cook's 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.640 an arrow. Dylan Cook's a monster arrow up, no question 0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.160 on those guys. See them all as a good player. 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.560 And Arizona I think he's a really nice signing for 0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:09.880 them on a rebuilding team. You hope you can replicate 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:13.160 that from the guard not named McCormick. That's really the 0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:16.520 only place you can stand that one of the guard 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.880 spots might not be as good. Okay, yeah, that's fine, 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.280 And see them all as a good player, very useful 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:24.560 around here. But then you add two draft picks to 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.040 the mix. I mean, it's really the only camp of 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.120 note that Omar has been in charge of that you 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:35.160 can't have the rookie optimism last year. I mean, so 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:37.640 I don't think it's close. 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:38.279 I don't think. 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.080 And then you throw a Hoffman in there for fine. 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:42.320 I think particularly when you consider the depth. 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.160 Yeah, because last four tackles. 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:46.840 Last year there was a lot of unknown with the 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.680 depth and there were questions about Progerick on the left side, 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:52.440 and yeah, questions about Faltanu is he was kind of 0:37:52.480 --> 0:37:56.279 still very wet behind the ears. This year, I think 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.960 you're right, four of the five starters you have to 0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.480 feel better about, or at least still good about. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.320 Yeah, yeah, at least, but I think I would say about. 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.520 Four feel much better about the depth. I mean, Matt, 0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:11.080 you could if you had to, you know, break glass 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.920 in case of emergency, worst case scenario, you could start 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:16.799 a game with Roger Jones, Jennings Dunker, Ryan McCollum, Brock 0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:20.480 Hoffman and Maxie Honachor. I mean your second team offensive line. 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.279 Those five there might. 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:23.960 Be not a bad player. By the way, he never 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:24.640 gets brought up. 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.759 He's limited in the sense that he only plays center. 0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.360 It really hurts you, but you know, and so ideally 0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:31.400 at that position, you like to have someone like a 0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:34.959 Hoffman who's more versatile, but just for a backup center 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.560 and a vacuum. He's he's more than fine, he's more 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:38.120 than adequate. 0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.440 I mean, he's better than like J. C. Hassenhower was, 0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.080 you know, and some of the guys that were center 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.600 only backups over the years. 0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:46.239 I think that that second unit for the Steelers. Heck, 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:47.400 there might even be a couple of teams in the 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.960 NFL that would trade their their starting five for that 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.240 second five for the Steelers. 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:52.440 I'm not quite there yet. 0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:53.839 But we need to see, we need to see more 0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:54.800 from Max and Dunker. 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.239 But yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. It's a 0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:01.279 really a lot of riches that are all playable. They 0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:04.600 are all NFL players. So people might be like, well, 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.319 why does it hurt to be center only? Because on 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:09.600 game day only one guy can get hurt for you 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.600 to get in the game. You know, like, that's unless 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:15.600 you're one of the best thirty two centers walking the 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:20.320 planet and all you can do is center. You bet, Yeah, 0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.239 that's that's really rough. I'm sure some really really good 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.960 center only zone over the years have kind of gotten 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:30.040 washed away because they're five eleven six foot or whatever. 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.560 No one ever thought they could play guard, but they 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:36.200 weren't the best center on their team. It's like, what 0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:38.600 value to me you have on game day? 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.200 So you want the brock Hoffmans who can play all 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:43.480 interior spots, the Nate herbigs who could play alls. 0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.360 We always talk about BJ Finney and those type of 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.600 dudes too. I mean, you must be great, but you 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:51.359 have to play all three because even you know, even 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:54.040 if the death star was really thin, if you lose 0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.640 a guard, you're not putting McCallum in and moving Fraser 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.799 to guard. Ever, No, that's just not right. 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:05.840 That ain't happening. No defensive line, Matt. Let's take a 0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.480 look at this this year as opposed to last year. 0:40:08.520 --> 0:40:13.040 So last year's defensive front you had Derek Harmon, Keanu Benton, 0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.960 Cam Hayward, hy A Black, Logan Lee, Isaiah Loudermilk, Dean Lowry, 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.200 Daniel Kualley to Marvin lel is that the right I 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.600 think that's the right nine to mention there of guys 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.799 who were involved on that. I'm talking true defensive lineman 0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:31.920 right right, right now, not edge rushers. This year you 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:35.520 have Derek Harmon, why A Black, Cam Hayward, Keanu Benton, 0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:39.800 you add Sebastian Joseph Day, you add Gabriel Rubio, Logan 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:44.400 Lee still around as Z's AUTUMNWAYO is here. And I 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.439 think those are probably the eight guys there that deserve 0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:48.279 a mention at this point. 0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:51.440 I think it's better now, but I think guys like 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:55.799 Lowry and Lee probably his book has been written. And 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:58.560 I thought the same thing a year ago about louder Milk. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:01.000 Its like, I've seen you for three years and you 0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.359 never broke out, and you were never horrible, but you're 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.360 always a borderline roster guy and kind of a roster clogger. 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:09.279 I know he's a year older, so we should say 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.319 we feel slightly worse about Cam. He's coming off an 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.000 awesome video, I mean, right, I mean. 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.319 Even if we're just plateauing, I think we're still in. 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:22.520 The exactly it's a great plateau. So that's probably a wash. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.000 You got to think about though, when you have a 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.760 first round pick, you know, like put your mind around 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:31.160 like a haunted chore. Now you're super excited about Benton 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:35.840 or Harmon Harmon, And I wouldn't say he disappointed, but 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.799 it wasn't like that. It's that box that that that 0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.080 box of the unknown, you know, like, boy, he may 0:41:41.120 --> 0:41:42.920 be Aaron Donald and we don't know it. You know, 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.920 like you have a little bit of unrealistic optimism around 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.160 a first round pick. And by no means I think 0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.279 he's disappointing, and he actually having a very good camp. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.680 I used to podcast this morning about how good he 0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.960 and Black have been of just shutting down the Steelers 0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.359 run game. Black is definitely more valuable. 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:03.640 His arrows straight up, Ben and I don't know what. 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:07.200 To do with because there's a little position change there. 0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.080 So I have a lot more optimism because I don't 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.000 want him on the nose at all. No, I still 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.360 think he has a lot of value, and I wouldn't 0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.200 be shocked if he gets signed in the next two 0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:20.000 or three days. Even you know that, I think they 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:24.360 like him, and so I think he's equal. Just Sebastian 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.239 and Joseph Day by himself is enough for me to 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.879 say I like this year better. If he's your fourth 0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:30.880 or fifth guy off the bench, that's way better than 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.799 it's been in a long time for that for a 0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:34.640 fourth or fifth guy. 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.840 I think in terms of your sixth and seventh guys, 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.600 the arrow is probably pointing down. I think in terms 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.000 of your top guys, Cam Heyward kind of his own 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.520 unique case, the arrow is pointing up. Sebastian. Joseph Day 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:49.600 is a real he's a legit, he's a he's a 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.960 real he's a real kind of change change up in 0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:56.919 this in this group compared to last year. But I regardless, 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.680 and even if your point is as well, like even 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:05.640 if you have to factor in some decline for Cam Hayward, 0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.920 which hey, let's see it before. So but at this 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.520 point in his career, you know, at some point it's 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.200 gotta happen like father Tomas, Yeah, undefeated? Why a black 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.360 arrow up? Hopefully? I think you're right. You make a 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.359 good point about Derek Harmon, that we were all very 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.239 excited for him last year, whereas now it's a little 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.040 bit more of a wait and see approach. We know 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.880 he can play, but how good can he be? 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:28.480 Like next year, we might be like, boy, Ohannacher had 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.560 a really good rookie year, but remember how unbelievably excited 0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.879 we were, which is probably not fair. But that's thirty 0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:36.520 two first round picks around the league. 0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.919 Right, that box of unknowns. Like you say, there, I do. 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.279 So there's been a couple of people that have really 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.000 gone another way to mention on a way though they 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.200 think he's a keeper, he's making this team, that he 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.960 has talent, that they might have found a sort of 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:54.080 diamond in the rough, like not a diamond, but a yeah, 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.839 some just cheaper gemstone in the rus, a cheaper gem stone, 0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:58.440 right right, that he paid nothing for. 0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:00.879 Hey, he's gonna have an opportunity, I think. 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:02.359 Because I don't know if like Lee and Lowry are 0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.799 making this team if you only keep seven, I. 0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:07.879 Was just gonna say Rmon's making the team. Why he's 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:11.520 making the team. Cam Hayward's making the team. Fashion, Joseph Day, 0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:12.560 Keanu Benton. 0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:14.200 That's five, that's five guaranteed. 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:19.120 Gabriel Rubio, I mean he's round pick, he's probably making it. 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:22.520 That would be six, could be your seven, right right right, 0:44:22.680 --> 0:44:24.720 that's that would make some sense to me. That's starting 0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.000 to come together. 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.480 There because those two guys on the way you and Rubio, 0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.919 I don't think their books written. They may never turn 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:35.120 into starters, but they won't be that louder Milk guy described. 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.600 I think Lee's quickly becoming that where it's like. 0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:39.800 You just someone who's just taking up a scholarship. 0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.200 Yeah yeah, Like we can trot you out there for 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.759 ten snaps, but you'll probably never be more than that, 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.960 and you're just an ending eater that you know, the 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.520 other team says, thanks for putting out there. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.240 Is that the Dan mccullor's memorial scholarship there. 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:55.680 He got He got too many more, He got more 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:56.399 years than he should. 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.560 He was he was on scholarship for a while. That 0:44:58.600 --> 0:44:59.000 big guy. 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.680 One out of ten plays looked really good. 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.640 One out of ten. That's like me on the golf course. 0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:06.840 Matt Williams and one out of ten swich, dang that 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:10.000 kid could be on the corn ferry tour. And then 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.319 Banks spray one right into the woods baby, and start 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.480 over hour of the books. Two hours to go, we'll 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.200 hear a little bit from offensive coordinator Brian Angelico, and yeah, 0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.600 in the four o'clock hour, keep those tweets rolling in. 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.560 We've got a lot of ground to cover. West Jeweler 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.440 Matt Williamson. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the 0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:27.680 Steelers Audio Network.