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Speaker 1: Drink up mother, what it could be? Hope?

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Speaker 2: When we started this show, we started and we said,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna give the people play hours, you know, to legends,

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: It's a handful that you know, you can count count

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Speaker 2: but that's really a part of the culture. When I

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Speaker 2: I feel like I know my whole industry life. They

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Speaker 2: have been down. They have been sincere They have been

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Speaker 2: involved with everything quality. I remember at one point, you know,

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Speaker 1: Entered that reggae throne culture. Now you look at that

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Speaker 2: Now before they used to holler, I went to film

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Speaker 1: And they just swiped it. They did what they had

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Speaker 2: Now rigaton is one of the biggest genre of music.

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Speaker 1: In the world because of our contributions. I'm taking some

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Speaker 2: I love the humble beginnings of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 2: Yes, he was your Dizel Washington, Yes, and you was

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Speaker 5: He was a Yeah, I was trying to be Denzel too,

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Speaker 5: and at that time, like nobody thought about being an actor.

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Speaker 1: You know who was famous Latino actors at that time?

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Speaker 5: Because what I'm saying, he was playing the Latino caters

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Speaker 1: That's how I would do it. I was like, this

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Speaker 1: He killed it, but but people still recognize you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we started making on them. Every day was Super

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Speaker 5: And then we got tired of making movies and video

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Speaker 9: They suckered men, and.

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Speaker 2: Very seldomly we get to speak to people that's behind

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Speaker 2: what exactly is casting, right, Like, like if a person

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Speaker 8: Mean, you know, I don't know what anyone needs to

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 8: So when I came to the cast and like, yo,

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Speaker 8: And when she was developing that, she had us do

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Speaker 1: Like you know, because that was like a Latino movie somewhat.

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Speaker 8: Rappers, right to hear that part, that part we used

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Speaker 5: Probable cause big just fly, probable cause the probable cause

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Speaker 8: Anyway, anyway, you would chase your voice right there, I'm

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Speaker 8: they couldn't get it, so we missed the opportunity. It

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Speaker 8: do something. Won't you do an internship on this to

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Speaker 5: I worked for free on on. I like it.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well there's two levels of casting. Principal casting, which would

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Speaker 1: Cats that don't spak number one man number.

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Speaker 5: One, the guy that gets seen but he you know, he.

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Speaker 5: Once they open their mouth. If it's a Union movie,

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 5: So like let's say if I was here and I

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Speaker 1: How to pay you?

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Speaker 2: So what he teach us, because it's it's it's.

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Speaker 1: You all know. He said that there's a there's a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So that doesn't really exist though. Something happened years

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Speaker 1: Union and union. Yeah. Yeah, that's so.

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Speaker 8: It was like a you know, a long time ago

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Speaker 1: So we're dying right now. So we had to be able.

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Speaker 8: But if you call the union, they tell you five

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Speaker 1: But people do it.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know how real it is.

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Speaker 8: All the time that five cord in there on their picture.

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Speaker 5: So the problem is when you go wait, when you

444
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 5: go back to that era of like the Juice era,

445
00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 5: that was like the explosion of all the black films, Jews, men's,

446
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 5: the society boys in the hood, all these urban movies

447
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 5: were being done.

448
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,160
Speaker 1: Were they considered indie at the time those films or no.

449
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,720
Speaker 7: There was studio finance. It was studio finance.

450
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 5: But you know, like Friday, those movies are still no budget.

451
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,720
Speaker 5: Friday was like hilf a million dollars six hundred thousand.

452
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 5: It might have been a budget that had like two

453
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: three million, but that was the music, that was other

454
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 5: stuff that was costs on top. So so that was

455
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 5: like the explosion when you saw like Hollywood say, you

456
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 5: know what, hip hop was getting so big. They needed

457
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 5: things simrrored to the culture. So they started making these

458
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 5: movies that were like.

459
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: Geared with urban people.

460
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 5: And then when they started casting those movies, they weren't

461
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,640
Speaker 5: enough people in the Union, so they were like, you know,

462
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 5: there's no black extras in the Union, there's no Latino

463
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 5: extras in the Union. So when people were trying to

464
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 5: do authentic projects, they couldn't find the people. That's where

465
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 5: casting directors like my brothers started to grow because they

466
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 5: had the access and the authenticity to say.

467
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 7: You know what, I know people.

468
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 5: When people were making music videos, Dan Martell, you know

469
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 5: recipe exactly, Dane. That's how he started working with Dane

470
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 5: because the Anne like the raw videos and she didn't

471
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 5: find those kind of casting.

472
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 2: And she just started working with Diane Martel because you

473
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 2: WoT money power respect.

474
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, but we were working with her before because he

475
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 5: started working.

476
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: With the casting.

477
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 5: That's how I meant everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, Diane

478
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 5: you know best way recently too. Yeah, she's you know,

479
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 5: she was sort of my first mentor in the in

480
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 5: the in the music video.

481
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 7: Space, and he was working with cast.

482
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Dane's videos were rass, like I

483
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 5: was a crackhead and then he'll bring somebody. He was like,

484
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 5: I don was an actor crack and I was a

485
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 5: real crackhead, Like I want you to go.

486
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: Performing for the fire and I was like, not fake fire.

487
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: I was. I did Like, I was like, I don't

488
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: want you, don't want to take ship? Like no, keep it?

489
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

490
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 1: I was sweat and everything.

491
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 5: So she was you're super raw. So what happened was

492
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 5: that somewhere along the lines there was a moment where

493
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 5: I was like around her and people that worked with her,

494
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 5: and she had an assistant at that time where I

495
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 5: found out that they were writers and music videos. I

496
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 5: didn't know that like that there were other people that

497
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 5: wrote concepts right for directors.

498
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: Like the Treatment, so you could write the contract with them.

499
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 5: So so one time I was like, oh, ship, there's

500
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 5: like people involved. So like one time we were somewhere

501
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 5: and she was on the phone and I think it

502
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 5: might have been puffed and she like the treatment, like

503
00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 5: the treatment.

504
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: That's you know, it was like Diane, it was hype.

505
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 5: It was like all the big directors well for those

506
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 5: kind of jobs, Like I wasn't directed, and you know,

507
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 5: like I even hustled this.

508
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 7: So I heard like the convoy a little bit.

509
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 5: So I tried to jump in and I was like,

510
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 5: you know, I think I like she was hard course,

511
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 5: and she was like what fuck you know, fuck you

512
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 5: know you're so small. Don't you write this ship? And

513
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 5: I was like, uh, you know, I saw I wrote

514
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 5: the concept. So she submitted it and then she got

515
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 5: the video. So the production company she was signed to,

516
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,439
Speaker 5: she's like, oh, maybe the Dominican kid knows something. And

517
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 5: then after she did money Power respect, I started getting

518
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: music right, like yeah, herself, the production color which I

519
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 5: just signed, we started sending me music. So then I

520
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 5: saw write this concept. Yeah, and you know, I would

521
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 5: talk to her first, so she wasn't like just letting

522
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: me work right blind, and she was like, study this movie,

523
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 5: study this movie, look at these scenes in this movie.

524
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 5: She would give me references. I would look at the movie,

525
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: come up with a concept. She might hate fifty percent

526
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 5: of it. I rewrite it. And then she was big.

527
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 5: Then when I started to work with Dance, she was

528
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: already here. So you know, everything we was doing was

529
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 5: like big ship Wu Tang Mariah. It was like all

530
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 5: big Christina Agro. It was all big stuff. And then

531
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 5: at some point I got approached by some reps and

532
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 5: they were like, yo, we just signed this kid out

533
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 5: of Baltimore named Chris Robinson exactly, and that sort of

534
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 5: got me in the world with Chris, and I started

535
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 5: writing with him, but he was at a different stage

536
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 5: because Chris was on the come up, which sometimes people

537
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 5: feel the impact more in the come up, not on

538
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 5: the top. So with Chris, when I started working with him,

539
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 5: Chris didn't let me write solo.

540
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: So they would fly together and we were sitting there we.

541
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 7: Would rock out a bunch of treatments.

542
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: And then Chris's career started going and I was like

543
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: part of that wave. And then Ultimately, Chris signed me

544
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 5: and the rest is history, you know, right.

545
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: So, by the way, this face a noise that so

546
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm bounce around a little bit.

547
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, So you know Lena with I know who

548
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 5: she is.

549
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, she has the Syrians called the shot right yes

550
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: on the showtime. I absolutely love it. I absolutely I

551
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 2: hate giving any critique to anybody, especially people I love.

552
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: But I had to tell her one day. I said,

553
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: it's one thing about the shot that I just can't

554
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: get with. I said, you showed, you know, the streets,

555
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: you showed the police, show, the political thing, you showed everything.

556
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: The one thing that I didn't see in the shot

557
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: that bothers me.

558
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: There's no Latino, especially Chicago, Like I'm like from Puerto Rican.

559
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: First off, a Puerto Rican should have.

560
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Been there, Like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You look at

561
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: so many Mexicans in Chicago and I'm like, you know

562
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: this is my homegirl too. By the way, So I

563
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: just was my only critique other than that, I I

564
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: believe that series is like it's up there. I believe

565
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 2: that inventially it would be a labeled a classic.

566
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: But my only thing is there's no Latinos.

567
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 5: And that's always been the tough struggles that like we

568
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: never had a unified voice in Hollywood. You know, the

569
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 5: African Americans got unified and was like, Yo, we don't

570
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 5: see ourselves winning Oscars, we don't see ourselves doing this,

571
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: We don't see ourselves at the awartions. We don't see

572
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 5: enough in Hollywood answered, But with us, they have never answered,

573
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 5: you know, like for us to make up you know,

574
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 5: twenty percent of the population. You know, we're one in

575
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: five people, but we're one in twenty on the acting side,

576
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 5: you know, in terms of roles like and the writers, directors,

577
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: it's like we're minuscule, and Hollywood has never opened the

578
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: doors to say, hey, it's on their mandates, Like we're

579
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 5: supposed to make Latino projects because the Latino movement is there,

580
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 5: but they don't really make them, you know. And if

581
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 5: I was like a director, i was complaining and then

582
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 5: I'm out here on your show. But then you can

583
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 5: point out to six directors that got mad, the Latino wire.

584
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: Got Latina power, but it ain't there. It don't exist.

585
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give you all your props because again,

586
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 2: I just want to say.

587
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 8: One thing, and the reason behind that is because we

588
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 8: don't support like the Mexican's rule because the Mexicans support Mexicans.

589
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 8: There's a Puerto Rican film or Dominican film or Columbian film,

590
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 8: you don't support the Latinos all got together and support

591
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 8: great content.

592
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: Then then there's too much infighting within and that's the problem,

593
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: so much hate against each other.

594
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 8: But it's like if the if the studios saw hints

595
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 8: after hints after hits, it's a no brainer. That's why

596
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 8: right now we're putting all our ships and so I'm

597
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 8: just I'm sure you heard about it. We're doing the

598
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 8: Fat Joe series next year.

599
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh ship, you know that?

600
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: No, like like some more time because you get me,

601
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: you got got goosebumps. Okay, because I'm gonna be honest

602
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: with you. When y'all just said the wire, the closest

603
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 2: thing that I saw that I compared like a Latin

604
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: wire was the Nikki Jam Shit Like that ship is

605
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: so good, yo, Like I watched that.

606
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: It's like three tired. I don't even know how I

607
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: know was bothering you. I called you mad. I was like, yo,

608
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I was asking questions.

609
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: I was like because it was just so like God

610
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: blessed me. I heard it young brother, not not. I

611
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: don't credit Nikki Jam, obviously, I credit Nigga Jam is

612
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: his story. But what I'm saying is what made me

613
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: fall in love with it was the cinem photography. You

614
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. That's how it was shot because

615
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: you can just shoot anywhere. But like it's fucked up

616
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: for me because I've been in this game twenty five years,

617
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: so I could tell I know where you put on

618
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: the camera at. I know where that dude right there.

619
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: He didn't belong in the film. He was walking his door,

620
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: but you know it look good. So they kept feeling

621
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 2: like I can see that, you know what I mean.

622
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: So when I'm watching it, like I went through the

623
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: whole thing, this is how good the series is. I

624
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 2: watch it three times, let's fit it goss. I kept

625
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: going and I kept I was like I missed something right,

626
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: and I kept this is how good this series is.

627
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: You know, Nikki Jam makes it out of it.

628
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: You know that he becomes successful, but as you watch

629
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: it you go through it you like you're hoping, hoping yesterday.

630
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: But that's how good the series was. Like you know

631
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: like in real life, you know he's okay. But watching

632
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: the series, you're like so into it. You're like, man,

633
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: what does he do next?

634
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: Like what is it? Like? How? How? How? How?

635
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: How was that first off? How did he even get

636
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: How did you all get even approach to do this project?

637
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Was it Netflix? Or wasn't Nikki James?

638
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 5: Uh? What really happened was that for years, as when

639
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 5: I pivoted from hip hop videos to start doing reggae

640
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 5: tho videos, I was looking at what happened in hip

641
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 5: hop and what happened that Regato seeing if I can

642
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: repeat right, So, like we said, when that era of

643
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 5: hip hop was so big, Jews learning his boys in hood,

644
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: there was a moment where like all these TV shows

645
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: were coming out. So I was like, okay, get thought

646
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 5: was about to be America's new hip hop. So if

647
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: I follow the same trend, that means we need the

648
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: same movies, we need the same content.

649
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 7: But I couldn't get anything sold.

650
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: I was trying. I was trying. I was trying. I

651
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: was trying.

652
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 5: I couldn't get everything sold. So even at that time

653
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: Daddy Yankee had signed to in the scope.

654
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: He was at first Yeah yeah, three three inch was

655
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: the one that got me working with Daddy Yankee.

656
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 7: So when Daddy Yankee came and signed the Gangsters.

657
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: With snow Dogg in Puerto rican Yes, we're.

658
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 5: Three h right, come on yeah yeah yeah yeah. So

659
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 5: so he brought me into that fold. So it's like

660
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 5: when Yankee had did a movie called Talento Barrio, right.

661
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 7: That was his movie. So they did eight Mile, right, they.

662
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 5: Did Get Rich of I Try and and then they

663
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 5: were gonna do Talento, then Bodia, and they were trying

664
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: to figure out something with that movie, but they just

665
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 5: never got behind it the same.

666
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: And it never came out. He came out. It was

667
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: the top grossing movie in Puerto Rico at that time. Okay,

668
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean it was a huge hit.

669
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: Okay, so there was a so to me, it's like

670
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: when and this is a story that that I'm not.

671
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Sure it is true, but it helped me get Nikki Jay. Okay.

672
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: Right at the time I did Wangston fifty right, And

673
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: what happened with Wangster was that I was already working

674
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 5: the enniscope. So dj who was Jimmy's nephew that worked

675
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: the enniscope when fifty got signed. You know, I'm from Jamaica, Queens,

676
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: so he was on fire in Jamaica Queens. So when

677
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 5: he got signed, I told I told DJ, I said, yo,

678
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: I think I was doing styles P or something, and

679
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, I want to I want to

680
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 5: work on the fifty project. It was a guy's coming

681
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: down the line. I said, y'all, I want to work

682
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Speaker 5: on the fifty project.

683
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Speaker 1: So he kept his words.

684
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 5: So when the fifty project came out, he he reached

685
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: out to me to write on Wangston. And when he

686
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: reached out for me to write on Wangster, all the

687
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: big directors, because the budget was lowered, didn't jump in.

688
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 5: So I had like an opportunity to do Wangster.

689
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: Right, so it was right on it. But actually director.

690
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 5: Direct the video right, So so I you know, because

691
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 5: at that time I was directing video, so I got

692
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: to do that.

693
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 7: So I did Wangster. A lot of people don't.

694
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: Know that doctor Dre is a director too. No, doctor

695
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: Dre's a director in videos, okay, right him and he

696
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: had a partner fill out Well you know guys, yeah,

697
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 5: you know, I love Phil and Dre. So Wangster was

698
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 5: like the low budget video. It was the warm one

699
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 5: because fifty had that song out for a while. So

700
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 5: I did Wangster. Then twenty one questions came, No in

701
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: the club came and Dre was like, oh I got

702
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 5: this one because was like five times. And then the

703
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 5: next one was twenty one questions. He was like, sit

704
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: this without my friend Phil got this here, don't catch

705
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 5: the big And when the budgets came back down on

706
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 5: a little bit, they reached out to me again and

707
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: they said, we got.

708
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: This other record menument that's the movie style you did.

709
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

710
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: So then when take the intro to get Richard trying,

711
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm doing your interview for you.

712
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

713
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 7: Yeah. So when when.

714
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 5: I spoke to fifty about get rich and I trying,

715
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: I mean maybe man, he was like.

716
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: Oh, that's fifty making sure he's saying something good about him.

717
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: So so anyway, so I ended up writing a concept

718
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 5: that was like loosely telling his story how he got shot,

719
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 5: how other casts kind of came up his shooting where

720
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: they involved blah blah blah. And I wrote this thing,

721
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: and at that time I had relationships with a lot

722
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 5: of actors, So I hacked this from YPD Blue people

723
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: from Cside Miami, and I really cast my Kai Fifer.

724
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 5: We really cast This was like a little short film

725
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: and this is where it's So someone told me that

726
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: they took that to Paramount and said, hey, this is

727
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 5: the next movie. Get Richard. I trying.

728
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 7: But the thing was is that they didn't see any.

729
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: Directors of color at that time, right, So like there

730
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: was nobody on the list of the directors that they

731
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 5: went on. And I'm not knocking the director that did it,

732
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 5: but he was a director that did a movie called

733
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: My Left Foot that was a huge movie, was nominated

734
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 5: for an Oscar. So they felt like, you know, marrying

735
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: like urban with an art director, yes, but you know

736
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 5: with them. And then they went with a really artie

737
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 5: director for eight miles. So they were like, you know what,

738
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 5: maybe that's the move. But I would have assumed if

739
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: I never thought it was going to be me, but

740
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: I would have assumed there was John singletony f Gary Greg,

741
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: guys that were like in that moment, happy a moment

742
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: when someone told me that they showed that there was

743
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: to sell the movie. That's what they told me, don't

744
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 5: I wasn't there, so that's why I said, But that

745
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 5: always stuck in my mind. So for years I was

746
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: trying to figure out a story where we see Ndell

747
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: figure out a story with this person trying to sell stories.

748
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: But I couldn't tell a story. And I was doing

749
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 5: the video with Nikki jam and I asked him. There

750
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 5: was like a gap where Nikki was hot and they disappeared,

751
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: and then he was hot again, and I was like,

752
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 5: what happened? He was telling me about the drugs and

753
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 5: this and that, and I was like, I didn't even

754
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 5: know none of that story.

755
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 7: And I was like, wow, that story is amazing.

756
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: And he had a song called Ganda Door that was

757
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: similar to many Men. So I said, you know what, Nikki,

758
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: let's shoot a music video with that Ganador. I'm gonna

759
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 5: put you in the in the suit, put the hair

760
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: back on you. I'm gonna do this ship. We're gonna

761
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 5: shoot it like I did many man. I feel like

762
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: I'm having deja vu. I lived this morning and we're

763
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: gonna take that to the studios. And I shot the video,

764
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 5: sat with the Netflix exexpress Play pitched him the show,

765
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: and that's how I sold it. Evon Diesel was in there.

766
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 5: Oh Diesel the cameo.

767
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: No, but that series? So how true to that series?

768
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Is it?

769
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: Like?

770
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: Because one thing that I didn't know this whole time,

771
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: is that you write.

772
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: I always thought you just directed, and I always thought

773
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: you just cast it. I had no idea that you

774
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: guys were actually writing.

775
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 5: The show was sold with my vision. What happens in

776
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: television is that you build a writer's room. Okay, So

777
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 5: I had people a writer in Puerto Rico, ne Marii

778
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 5: that was an incredible writer. And Netflix had wanted a

779
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 5: showrunner with experience, and they brought a.

780
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 7: Mexican show running.

781
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 5: Now.

782
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Showrunner for people that don't know, can you break that down?

783
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, showrunner is typically a writer who has experienced in

784
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 5: television that can run the entire show right where he

785
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 5: can see the vision. Because usually television shows are done

786
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 5: with a writer's room where there's like six writers. There's

787
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 5: one person that controls the vision of what the show

788
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: could be. He's the one that can track the story

789
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: and tell you, you know what, we could do five seasons.

790
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: We could do four seasons because.

791
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 5: When you saw the TV show, they asked you for

792
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 5: what's called the bible, and then that TV Bible it

793
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 5: tells you what five seasons look like. Okay, and everything

794
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 5: budget but just like story because like a lot of

795
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: people don't want to buy a show that's going to

796
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: die in one season, so you need to show them

797
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: whether they make the five seasons. Typically you're dealing televisions

798
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: for five seasons. Yeah, so so the show runner can

799
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: help shape that and control so like it's just not

800
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 5: random stories that don't make sense. He's seen a bigger vision, right.

801
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 5: So Netflix was like, we need a guy that can

802
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: show run the show. You know, like I was considered

803
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 5: a non writing show runner. They were buying into my vision,

804
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 5: but they were like, we need somebody with experience on

805
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: the writing side. So I brought this writer from Puerto

806
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 5: Rico and they were like, he doesn't have experience, and

807
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 5: I was like, nobody's.

808
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: Born with experience.

809
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 5: You get somebody the chance and they fucking prove themself.

810
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 5: But they weren't going for that. So they wanted this

811
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: writer in Mexico named Jorge Dudante. But Jorge had a

812
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: vision too, So I went to Mexico. I told the

813
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: right idea, said let's go to Mexico. And then Jorge

814
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: he had a vision, he understood and he gave us

815
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 5: a respect to say, you know why, I know this

816
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 5: is your show.

817
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 7: I know you got a specific vision.

818
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: But he helped us crafted that's why you see created

819
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: by me and him. Okay, and then we designed the

820
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: show and then one week in Coach in Mexican Coaches

821
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: is not the same. People don't know that I shot

822
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: the show in Mexico. I did not know that no

823
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: I lived in Mexico seven months.

824
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 5: I shot out Nika Jam.

825
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I only went to week for two weeks. How about

826
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: how about how about the.

827
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 5: People went to Columbia. We went to Columbia for about

828
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 5: a month. We shot all the Boston scenes, Lawrence, and

829
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 5: in Mexico City.

830
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: You said, the Boston scenes in Mexico to fuck up,

831
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

832
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: Then you got me yea. And then we came to

833
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: New York for a week. Wow, So is that saving

834
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: the budget?

835
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 5: Because a production company I did to deal with, they

836
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: were they had a great relationships in Mexico. They were

837
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 5: in Mexico, they had studios in Mexico, and financially, you know,

838
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 5: you gotta know what people don't understand is that, like

839
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 5: you look at Netflix today and it's Netflix. Right at

840
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 5: that time, Netflix hasn't didn't break into Latin America, right,

841
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: so they were the Netflix that they are today. So Tessaranas,

842
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: when we were shooting prepping Nikki jam. He had a

843
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 5: huge party in Mexico to announce that they were bringing

844
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 5: all this content to Mexico.

845
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

846
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 5: The only thing outside of content they were just buying.

847
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 5: They did the Luise Miguel story, right, So, I don't

848
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: know if you know Louis Miguel is a huge iconic

849
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: Mexican singer, but they did his story.

850
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 7: So when I went to.

851
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 5: Netflix, they were like, look, the way we're doing these

852
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 5: deals is that Netflix takes the rest of the world

853
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 5: and we need somebody else to take the US. So

854
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 5: they wanted me to make a deal with Telemundo because

855
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 5: they were in my mind, I was like, I don't

856
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: know if I want to do a deal with Telemundo

857
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 5: because you know, no knock to Telemunda, but I.

858
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Felt like this wasn't the right show for that.

859
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: Wait, Netflix wanted you to deal a separate deal with Telemuno.

860
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: I'm not understand. So Telemundo will have.

861
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: A some of the broadcast he rights in the US.

862
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 5: Yes. So, so basically the way they wanted to design

863
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: it was that Telemundo we're released first in the US. Right. Well,

864
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: people don't understand when you do a deal with Amazon Netflix,

865
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 5: they only could buy one territory sometimes, so you do

866
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 5: a deal with Netflix, they would only buy the US

867
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 5: if you if you had a meeting in the US.

868
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean it'll be on Netflix in the entire world.

869
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: You could block out the rest of the world. You

870
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 5: can say, yo, you're not giving me enough money. I'm

871
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: only giving you US rights, and then you go to

872
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: Amazon and.

873
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: Sell the rest of the world. So genius.

874
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know that, So sometimes don't

875
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: make the deal like Netflix and they give them the

876
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 5: world and they don't have to you know what I mean,

877
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 5: because they can they can block out.

878
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: So Netflix was like the actually say Netflix, I'm making

879
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: a deal with you for for said said cup, and

880
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: but this set cup.

881
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: Can only be on the East coast for instence, right.

882
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: And then Netflix says, yes, so you can sell this

883
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 2: whole other cup on the West coast and it's and

884
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: it's no conflict.

885
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: Like places like cam Finfields. So they do a lot

886
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: of those deals like that. Yes.

887
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 7: So so the thing is when you go to car and.

888
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 5: Those are sale markets, right, so they sell they sell

889
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 5: foreign so and they come to buy they're saying, you know, France,

890
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: Italy everybody's biddy, So everybody has their own version of

891
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 5: some channels. So you can be on Hulu here, you

892
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 5: can be on Amazon here, you can be on Apple here.

893
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: You don't have to be in one platform across the world.

894
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 5: So at that moment, Netflix, in the conversations I had,

895
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: they didn't have the power in the US with latinos,

896
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: so they were like, hey, can you make the same

897
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: deal Luise Miguel made where Telemundo takes the US first,

898
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: So in the first six months it lives on Telemundo

899
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 5: and then Netflix will play it in the rest of

900
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: the world six months after that they would come back

901
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 5: into the US because they felt like Telemundo had ten

902
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 5: million homes that they pumped content to latinos, they can pump.

903
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: It like introducing it now.

904
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure that was the right deal.

905
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: And would have commercials right, it wouldn't wait a little

906
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: bit different, it won't have no curses.

907
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 5: But you know, I mean, that's a big story. If

908
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 5: you want to hear it, it's a good one. That's

909
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: a tough one because what happened is that sometimes people

910
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 5: make a generic deal. When I say a generic deal,

911
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 5: is that Luis Miguel is like a.

912
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 7: Iconic pop star.

913
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: Right, he dated Mariah Carry like he was in that

914
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: was out there. He was out there, but you know

915
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 5: he's like he's singing love songs. He's you know, he's

916
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 5: an iconic figure and he's Mexican.

917
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Non Doug.

918
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. Right. So they say, because it's another Latino project,

919
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 5: similar music artists, music artists, they say, hey, do the

920
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: same deal.

921
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: Yea.

922
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: So my partner is Alejandro Rinco, you know, Sergio piece Olante.

923
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 5: They were like, okay, we can make a deal with Netflix.

924
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: So when I mean with Telemundo.

925
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 5: When Netflix told us they wanted us to make this,

926
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 5: they were like, we'll put up half the money. Can

927
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 5: you go get a deal with Telemundo? Sergio Alejandro was like, oh,

928
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 5: we can make that deal.

929
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: Happen.

930
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: My partner's on the show. And they made the deal

931
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 5: happen like that. So to Mexico and there was all

932
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 5: of a sudden we had this deal with Telemunda. I

933
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, these guys is moving this stuff. We

934
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 5: started in production and I started working in Mexico. I

935
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 5: didn't see any Puerto Ricans. So I had like all

936
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 5: these actors come in and they were like playing Daddy

937
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 5: Yankee was like, no, Mama is way and I was

938
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: like and it was like, do you sound like you know,

939
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 5: no mama is and I'm not, you know, I love

940
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 5: the Mexican culture. I'm just saying well.

941
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he can't play that yet. I

942
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: was like, he can't play daddy Yankee and they were like, Jesse,

943
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 1: don't worry. These are really good actors.

944
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 5: We're gonna get them a voice coach or like an

945
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 5: accent coach.

946
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 7: I'm like all the coaches in the world.

947
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna make this dude.

948
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 7: So I told him.

949
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 5: I said, look, honestly, I don't care where they come from.

950
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 5: I don't care the Mexican Ecuadorian but I don't care.

951
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 5: But when they come to the casting they should just

952
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 5: sound Puerto Rican.

953
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: Now, if I.

954
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 5: Believe it, they got the park, but they weren't coming

955
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 5: in like that.

956
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 1: They weren't method acting.

957
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, great, look on the older around

958
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 5: artists from the UK they come in and kill.

959
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: The access yea, the West coast, Yeah, they killed.

960
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you do? And you can so.

961
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 5: So what happened was what do you do in can't fire?

962
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 5: I was like, I call my brother.

963
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: You got guy, yes in Mexico. Okay, I found some

964
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans.

965
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 5: So one of the writers, he was like, yo, you

966
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: knew mad Puerto Rican actors that were in Mexico.

967
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: But they were like living as Mexicans.

968
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: You know, because they changed their accent because if they're

969
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 5: not going to work with their Puerto Rican. So he

970
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: started calling a bunch of them like, yo, there's a

971
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: Puerto Rican project. So they started showing up. So the

972
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 5: girl that plays one of the lead characters that he ned,

973
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: she's a huge star in Mexico Colombia, but they don't know.

974
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: She came like she was like I could be Puerto Rican.

975
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 5: She was like killed it, wow, you know. And there

976
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: was a lot of cats and it was interesting. There

977
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 5: was one cat that played the one of the Nikki's

978
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 5: friends in Lawrence's Dad and he was a black Puerto

979
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: Rican and we called him because he was working he

980
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 5: had did to sell a cruise doc the show. We

981
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 5: called him and he was like his agent said that

982
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: there's nobody his type in our project. I was like, yo,

983
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: who the hell are these agents?

984
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: So so it was a fight. It was a fight.

985
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: I kept fighting.

986
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: I kept fighting, and I would get these calls where

987
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 5: people like on the Telemundo side were like, well, I

988
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: know you're not casting a bunch of Puerto Ricans in

989
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: this state. And I was like, what are you talking

990
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 5: about something Puerto Rican story? But they were like, yeah,

991
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 5: you gotta understand, Like, you know, Telemunda has a thing

992
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: where they do like a neutral accent, you know. So

993
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: they were like, you know, we have to like open

994
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 5: it up, like and they were showing me characters from

995
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: Spain or different countries to play like the cat. I

996
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 5: was like yo. I was like, Nikki, jam daddy, ain't

997
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: they're still alive. I can't do a show and look

998
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 5: these guys in the faces.

999
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 7: This ship ain't authentic. So it was a lifetime story.

1000
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 7: It was a huge fight. It got to a point

1001
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 7: where I.

1002
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: Quit the show to get out of here.

1003
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 5: There was a Mexican female producer like that they have

1004
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 5: put on the project and she was fighting with me,

1005
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 5: and then I was like yo, I'm out of here.

1006
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 5: And then she was like, well you should go because

1007
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: you're damaging the whole project.

1008
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: And I was like I'm gone.

1009
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 5: Left Mexico went home, and then she was like good ridding.

1010
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 5: She called the right I d my boy and she

1011
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: was like, if you want to direct this thing, and

1012
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 5: he was like, you know, Jesse, he was calling me.

1013
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: I'm like I was already in La. I'm like, I'm good.

1014
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 5: And then a week later some lawyers called him were like,

1015
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 5: I think you forgot that Jesse owns the rights to Nikka.

1016
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 5: So it's like, Jesse has the rights to the life story.

1017
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 1: He was not the guy you should fire.

1018
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 5: Well.

1019
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: They were like okay.

1020
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 5: So I was like, told my lawyers. I was like, yeah,

1021
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 5: we got to fix this. And I was like, I'm

1022
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 5: not coming back to Mexico unless I see Puerto Rican actists.

1023
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: And then they were like okay. They started lining up

1024
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: people and then I started calling. I called my brother.

1025
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: I brought him in. I said, we need to find somebody.

1026
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: He found the kid that play Daddy Yankee in Philadelphia. Wow,

1027
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: get placed to us. He didn't need that hair.

1028
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 5: He was a young kid losing his hair. It was

1029
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: like thirty something and you just showed me. I was like,

1030
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: he looked like the Yankee, but no hair like the

1031
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 5: wig guy him. Got him a fucking wi. I put

1032
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 5: him in acting class and we started doing that. Yeah,

1033
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: we started doing all that stuff. But it was tough

1034
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 5: because when I was getting ready to release the show.

1035
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: If anybody knows about the show, the show never came

1036
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 5: out the way it was supposed to. It was supposed

1037
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 5: to come out like the same day on Telemundo, same

1038
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 5: day on Netflix. But because I didn't listen and I

1039
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 5: made an authentic show, the Netflix guys came down and

1040
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 5: they were like, Jesse, what's up, what's going on?

1041
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: We're hearing all this What did you eventually do it

1042
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: on Netflix?

1043
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: First? I mean I didn't control that deal. It had

1044
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 5: to release on both. But when I showed the first cut,

1045
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: then the mundo responded.

1046
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: First all the producers that were like, Yo, this shit sucks,

1047
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: It's not gonna.

1048
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: Work, blah blah blah blah blah. So for like a week,

1049
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 5: I was like the worst direct in the planet. So

1050
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: like all my part, it was like this mother, he

1051
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 5: knew he was crazy because they never saw the episodes

1052
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 5: because I was shooting episode thirteen eight seven.

1053
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: They were all blended. They were like they didn't know

1054
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: what I was doing.

1055
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 5: So they were like, yo, this is a disaster, right

1056
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 5: because Telemundo says a disaster. Then a week two weeks later,

1057
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 5: Netflix called and they said, oh, this ship's gonna be

1058
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 5: ahead right.

1059
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: Okay, the exact opposite.

1060
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 5: So there was a huge fight and it was funny

1061
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 5: because I'll never forget this and shout out to my

1062
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: boy and young Go Flow. But Yanngo Flow did a

1063
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 5: scene in the prison. So Telemundo one of the calls

1064
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 5: was that they didn't understand the language.

1065
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: They were like, what are they speaking? And they speaking.

1066
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 5: Spanish, because you know what is wrong with yes, so

1067
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 5: they would he might have to subtitle Spanish for real Spanish.

1068
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 7: I'm like, and I was like, you can't do that.

1069
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 5: If Nikki talks or somebody talked, you can't put like

1070
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: fucking Spanish subtitle. So I was fighting against that and

1071
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 5: I remember going to the edit and I slammed the

1072
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 5: fucking door and they were like, they don't the standing

1073
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: and I put play on the Nango Flow seem in

1074
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 5: prison and he was talking. I was like, damn, I

1075
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 5: don't mistake. But I told him, I said that's what.

1076
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: And I thought that. I thought, so Mundo never released it.

1077
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 5: They said, fuck it, they never released a show, okay,

1078
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: So when we came out, it only came out in

1079
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: the world, was not available in Puerto Rico or the

1080
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 5: United States.

1081
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: So when it came out only on Netflix in other territories,

1082
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: not six months but six went out.

1083
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 5: He came out of Netflix six months later in the US,

1084
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 5: so people will watch it. Why come out at first

1085
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 5: Netflix in the world.

1086
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: In the world Puerto Rico, US, So I had to

1087
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: have the.

1088
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 5: First kind of Puerto Rican show. But it wasn't available

1089
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 5: in Puerto Rico. So everybody was watching it on YouTube,

1090
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 5: stolen versions of it, so we would get like a

1091
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 5: million views and then they would drop it off a copyright.

1092
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: But that would helped the hype too.

1093
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: It helped the hype and it helped it hurt us

1094
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: because it didn't have the boom at the same time

1095
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 5: the six months later on like eight months later during

1096
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: the pandemic. It came out during the pandemic. A lot

1097
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 5: of people started during the pandemic.

1098
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 8: One of the word combined, so it was like these

1099
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 8: us here, these use here.

1100
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: It wasn't like when you combined the views, it would

1101
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 5: have been a huge hit.

1102
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: The TELEMORI will wind up, they come back.

1103
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: They they released it late at night as like it's gotta.

1104
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Throw away like a video like.

1105
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 5: So what happens is that you have to understand that

1106
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: universal old Mundo's like one big.

1107
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: Things and and Nikki signed the Universal correct no.

1108
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 7: No, he signed to Soldi.

1109
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: But OK, when it talks about corporate in Hollywood, Mundo

1110
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 5: has a show that for them didn't work right, and

1111
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 5: for Netflix it was a hit.

1112
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 7: But Hollywood Netflix doesn't.

1113
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 5: Show numbers, so Hollywood haves like you know you conversals, Telemundo,

1114
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 5: fucking NBC. You know, it's all the same thing. So

1115
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 5: I would go to meetings where someone would tell me, y'all,

1116
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 5: I heard you did a show called Nikki James. I'm

1117
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 5: like yeah, man, And somebody like maybe a nine person

1118
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 5: in the Moom's like, y'all, the show was great, it

1119
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 5: was ahead. And then I tell the other guy, yeah,

1120
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 5: you know, it was a huge boon blah blah blah.

1121
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 5: Then he will make a call the next day the

1122
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 5: Teimundo Andundo will.

1123
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Say it was a disaster. Did it work there?

1124
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: So then they would call my agents and be like, yeah,

1125
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 5: Jesse's a liar.

1126
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: They sabotaged it. Man, well in Telemundo, okay, yeah.

1127
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 5: But moons the US though, so you'd have to understand

1128
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 5: that it doesn't matter, like what We feel like when

1129
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: we understand the streets of culture, then they understand corporate.

1130
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: So if they're if the biggest Latino distributor in the

1131
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 5: US is telling you a show to Latino.

1132
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: Did it work, you don't You're not listening to it.

1133
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 4: Like they're one of the big credit unions, and that

1134
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 4: credit union was scoring.

1135
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 5: Said equal fact says credit is good.

1136
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like love, I can't hate at the same time.

1137
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 5: So I couldn't get the rested in Hollywood because how

1138
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 5: it saying I didn't show that didn't work? And then

1139
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 5: I'm going out and the coach is like, yeah, the fucking.

1140
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: Chose to both.

1141
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: So it was it was crazy, you know.

1142
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, right, because one of my

1143
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: favorite shows that ever in life is the show called

1144
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: Kenny Powers right, uh, East Bounding down right, And one

1145
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: of my friends that I know who worked on the set,

1146
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 2: they said it was too dangerous for them to film

1147
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: in Mexico, so they they swapped Mexico for Puerto Rico.

1148
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: What made you swap Puerto Rico for Mexico.

1149
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: Uh, it was really a cost. I love Mexico. Mexico

1150
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 5: City is one.

1151
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: Of the best cities. It didn't appair dangerous to you

1152
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 1: at all.

1153
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: No, Okay, you know, I think honestly, you know, a

1154
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 5: lot of that is hyped. You know, a lot of

1155
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: Latino countries when it comes to certain things are dangerous.

1156
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 7: So you can't take that for granted.

1157
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: Just got to respect where you go.

1158
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 5: If I if I'm in Puerto Rico and I got

1159
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 5: love in Puerto Rico, I like I might be more

1160
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 5: concerned in Puerto Rico than I would be in Mexico. Really,

1161
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: at least in Mexico City, Like you know, maybe there's

1162
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: other parts of Mexico, but you know, Puerto Rico is

1163
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 5: like the South.

1164
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: In Mexico City with the little girl got kidnapped, the

1165
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Dinzel winning gotta.

1166
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Hell man, you know.

1167
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 5: You know, look, I think Mexico gets a bad rap.

1168
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 5: Now there's real stuff, Like Mexico's real. Like you know,

1169
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 5: the thing is when you look at most land artists

1170
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 5: and some of them that grew up in the ghetto

1171
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 5: and grew up in the streets, like they're not singing

1172
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 5: about the streets in the ghetto because like if they

1173
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 5: sing about that violence, the violence is right there. Like

1174
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 5: they can't like have like this fake image and then

1175
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: do a tour through Mexico and promote themselves like they're

1176
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 5: super gangster, because Mexico's real people will come knocking on

1177
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 5: your door. But what I'm saying is just not a

1178
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 5: random thing. If I'm shooting in Mexico, you know, we're

1179
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 5: not worried about equipment getting stolen. Women are not worried

1180
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 5: about It's not people like.

1181
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 2: You gotta go through the cartels or something like that

1182
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: to get permission.

1183
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 5: No, you know, maybe not at my level. Maybe if

1184
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 5: you're an artist and you're moving through I think you

1185
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 5: got to worry about stuff. It's like people talk about

1186
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 5: all the cartoons involved in the music and the noncoddos

1187
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 5: in the Mexican music, and it was like, okay, what's

1188
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 5: not the streets involved in hip hop?

1189
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, reality is like it's like people hearing

1190
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: about the US outside of the US town. This is

1191
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: crazy to people in other country.

1192
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 8: Like I'm saying, in the beginning of the music videos

1193
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 8: face before there was agencies and that stuff, they would

1194
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 8: send me first to the to that city to look

1195
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 8: for the cast agencies, so.

1196
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: Cast locations as well, you know what I mean, look

1197
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: at social media. Okay, that's like people in st Louis.

1198
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 5: We would saying, Yuli, like go to Saint Louis like

1199
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 5: two days earlier while.

1200
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: The tick video, Yeah you go exactly.

1201
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 8: So they would always send me because the agencies, why

1202
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 8: would they be agencies in Saint Louis who's doing videos

1203
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 8: and he's.

1204
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: Doing recom from real.

1205
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 8: Yes, what I'm saying, we did Tennessee cash and every

1206
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 8: city I would go to it was the same ship.

1207
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 8: Like a matter of fact, we shot a hire lea

1208
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 8: you know video something years ago, right and we shooting

1209
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 8: and seeing these drug dealers come like, yo, we're losing money.

1210
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 8: You can't shoot hit them. I'm like, yes, because we

1211
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 8: got a permanent go yeah. Like you know what I'm

1212
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 8: saying that this movement, Oh ship, what do we do?

1213
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: So the great story, you know, he'll be a whole ship,

1214
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: you know know what I'm saying.

1215
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 8: So so you know, got shut down in l A

1216
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 8: like that, so don't matter. So so that's what people say. Mexico,

1217
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 8: it's the same ship that around the world anywhere.

1218
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1219
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 8: If the outside has come, if you go to the Bronx,

1220
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 8: you can shoot the man.

1221
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: Matter.

1222
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 5: Remember the thing is in Mexico Colombia mad a year.

1223
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 5: I ain't never anywhere it's the same ship. I never

1224
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 5: felt that energy that you would feel here. Like we

1225
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 5: were shooting on the block something with Romeo side and the.

1226
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: Dudes were like, yo, you sometimes.

1227
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is that in New York is

1228
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 5: more aggressive Atlanta, Texas, you know, La, like it's more aggressive,

1229
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 5: Like I never felt that in Mexico, right, But in

1230
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 5: La I got shut down with people are like yo.

1231
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 5: And I had cops on set where the cops walked

1232
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 5: on set the dude that I was telling them, I said, Yo,

1233
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: why are you trying to shut us down? He said, yo, man,

1234
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 5: this is my block. And I'm like, yo, this group

1235
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 5: is from here too, you know. They were like a

1236
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 5: nice kind of like you know, R and B soul

1237
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 5: kind of group. And I was like, yo, they're from

1238
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 5: here too, and he was like, I don't give a fuck.

1239
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 5: And every time I was trying to shoot like.

1240
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: The girls close ups, he was like in the back throwing.

1241
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: Up gangs and I was like, yo, why you go

1242
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 5: do that? And he's like, yo, you're a ben cousin.

1243
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 5: I was like, yo, chill, I said, Yo, I'm just

1244
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 5: trying to shoot a video, and then the cops walked up.

1245
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: You know in LA you don't have real cops, you

1246
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 5: have retired cops. So the old cop walked up and

1247
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 5: the dude and the duo just turned into the old

1248
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 5: copy said what the fuck you do? We got ghost

1249
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 5: to wow And then he was like nothing, we're.

1250
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: Sets closed and I have to leave myself.

1251
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 7: And I was like, what kind of ship in that

1252
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 7: in New York would have happened?

1253
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Said, wrap it up, wrap it up? No bro, in

1254
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: New York, you got it's like, get the funk out

1255
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: of here. It's hard core.

1256
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 5: But you deal with that here, You deal with that

1257
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 5: in other cities. You deal with that in Atlanta, like

1258
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 5: you know, I don't in Mexico. You don't see that.

1259
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 5: You gotta think that, Like, it's not corner drugs in Mexico.

1260
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 5: It's not corner gangsters, not guys that on blocks. It's

1261
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: guys on cities, you know, coming out, you know what

1262
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean, Like they're different.

1263
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 8: We only had shootouts in New York, right yeah, yeah,

1264
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 8: nowhere else.

1265
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think now because I'm looking.

1266
00:56:54,880 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: At that play with that. Tell me bust the rhyme, said.

1267
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: D j K slay.

1268
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: Oh I heard about this was.

1269
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Uptown in the projects and and okay, what happened?

1270
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Tell us you don't know, I think I was that video.

1271
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: Let you but what what what?

1272
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: What?

1273
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: What? What? What? What?

1274
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: What does that happen? Because obviously I know the artist

1275
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: point of view.

1276
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with us.

1277
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 5: Okay, they had nothing to do with us, and that's

1278
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 5: that's that's the problem. But this is where the city

1279
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 5: kind of puts you in the bad situation.

1280
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 7: You know, and you know better than me.

1281
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 5: Kase slave had his apartment and where you had to

1282
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 5: go mistake, so he would throw.

1283
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: You the keys out the window. You grabbed keys out

1284
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: the window and you go upstairs and you recording.

1285
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so it was him, it was case It was

1286
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 5: Nas Piece, Yes, yes it was Nas. It was I

1287
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 5: think Baby from Cash Money. There was a bunch of

1288
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 5: people on the song. So when we put in the

1289
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 5: permit for the city, they denied the permit on case

1290
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 5: Lay's block because basically, like some of the precincts, they

1291
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 5: have to approve. So like when the permit they call

1292
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 5: the preescinct like, hey, then we get a permit. They

1293
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 5: want to shoot it and people that might hate that

1294
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 5: a lot of rappers come to his house.

1295
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: Said no.

1296
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: He was like, we don't want to deal with that headache.

1297
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 5: So they canceled our permit and the video was like

1298
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 5: two days later.

1299
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: Wow.

1300
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 7: So we're like, shit, what do you do?

1301
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: So then somebody was like, then I hired a location

1302
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 5: scout that got us a project in Yonkers. Wasn't his neighborhood.

1303
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 5: So we go to Yonkers to shoot the video. So

1304
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 5: we're shooting the video and you have all these artists

1305
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: coming up in case. They had a bunch of people

1306
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 5: coming up because I remember he bangs this that like

1307
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 5: people got weren't on the song right, well, like people

1308
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 5: were just showing up, nor repotential, but all these people,

1309
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 5: all these people were showing up. So it drew out

1310
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 5: the whole projects when it happened, it drew out other problems.

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00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: But that wasn't probably getting love exactly.

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00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 5: So it started getting hectic in terms of crowd and

1313
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 5: and and I remember my boy Dana, who was a

1314
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 5: you know, a kid that grew up in my neighborhood.

1315
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 5: When he came out, when he came home, I gave

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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 5: him an opportunity to start working on sets and security

1317
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 5: or no.

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: He was working one.

1319
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 5: He ended up starting to work as a grip, like

1320
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 5: dealing with like the you know, the electricity and the

1321
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 5: sort of function the functionality of the set because you know,

1322
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 5: he couldn't interact with the people. And that's another story.

1323
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: He was a gangster dude. Okay, I get it, you know.

1324
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 7: So, but he came up to me.

1325
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 5: He was like, yo, jess man, it's about to be

1326
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 5: a problem. And I was like, what are you talking about.

1327
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 5: He was like, look at the playground and like everybody's

1328
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 5: grabbing the kids and like bringing them inside. And I

1329
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: was I was like, yeah, what kind of problems is

1330
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 5: this sounded like they started let off. She just cleared

1331
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 5: out and I just remember because my boy Dana like

1332
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: he dunk me under a bench. He was like, she

1333
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 5: was crazy. Somebody got shot. They put him in the car,

1334
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 5: they took off. We had cops on set. They didn't

1335
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: do nothing but be on the floor like us. Yo,

1336
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 5: shoe was over. They were like sets over. And Foxy

1337
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 5: had got there late. I'm not saying that she shows

1338
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 5: him labor. She got there later this time. So I

1339
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 5: remember going in the trailer and she had wanted me

1340
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 5: to shoot her before I was shooting A Marie and

1341
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 5: she got there later and I was shooting a Marie.

1342
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: So I was like, yo, let me finish your a marine.

1343
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 5: And you know, I was like, Yo, don't worry about it, man,

1344
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 5: We're gonna get to your part.

1345
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 7: And then the shoot I happened, So then I had.

1346
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: To go in there.

1347
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 5: Her brother, pretty boy or whatever, he.

1348
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: Was like yo, and she was like this is what

1349
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: mother Like, she started.

1350
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 5: Going off on me.

1351
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: This video was fucking.

1352
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 5: Over and I was like looking at her brother, like, yo,

1353
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: I got a man of doing this. And then she

1354
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 5: was like, he got shot in the leg.

1355
01:00:55,000 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: This is him. Hop's keep it going.

1356
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: Our show is about giving people their flowers or they

1357
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: could smell them. It drinks while they could drink them,

1358
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: they thoughts while they could think them. We wanted to

1359
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 2: give y'all y'all flowers face to face man, man, because

1360
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: we don't have a lot of people in this field.

1361
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: Uh do what you're doing again. You know, I'll let

1362
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 2: this promote to these kids or to these people that's

1363
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: following the culture. There's people that want to be involved

1364
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: with the culture that it's not always you know, to

1365
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: be behind the camera.

1366
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There's so many other jobs.

1367
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: That's why I definitely we know about the director call,

1368
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't

1369
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: know about even a casting thing even exists like that.

1370
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: I don't even think that you know what I'm saying.

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01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: So there's so many people. So that's the reason why

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: we which we just really wanted to give your flowers, man,

1373
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: and let y'all know, man, how much.

1374
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 1: We are shiates y'all, man, and let's keep it going.

1375
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1376
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 1: What do you How do y'all feel about AI?

1377
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: No?

1378
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: Dealing with one of my boys in my crew, Michael Garcia.

1379
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 4: He's a big music video director as well, and I

1380
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: talked to him all the time about this, and he's

1381
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 4: conflicted about the technology and what it's going to do.

1382
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 5: You know, I would say that I'm conflicted too. But

1383
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 5: it's like if you see a tsunami coming at some point,

1384
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 5: you got to leave the beach, you know what I mean.

1385
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 5: So it's like you don't want to be on the

1386
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 5: other side of the bridge when it's the wrong time, right, so.

1387
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: You have to adapt.

1388
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: Is it going to change the way we see cinema

1389
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 5: to a certain extent? Right? I think the consumption of

1390
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 5: content is different, you know, you see like the younger

1391
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: kids consuming streamers or there's consuming different type of content.

1392
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: But it's like there's a certain bracket of people that

1393
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 5: still consume content the way we can some content. So

1394
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to eliminate talent, you know,

1395
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 5: So like I think AI, you want to use it

1396
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 5: as a tool to enhance what you're already doing now

1397
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 5: in some in some regards, if you're whack or you're mediocre, yeah,

1398
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 5: it's gonna replace you, right because it's like if you're whacking,

1399
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 5: your mediocre is going to replace you. But at some

1400
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 5: point it's like people are going to look at who

1401
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 5: can take the AI and do better stuff.

1402
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, what that also means is that.

1403
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 5: If they used to pay one hundred dollars for something,

1404
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 5: they want to pay twenty because the technology you could

1405
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 5: do feel the eighty. And that's hard because as a filmmaker,

1406
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 5: as a person that has a team, how do you

1407
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 5: eliminate people from your team? You know? How do you

1408
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 5: eliminate the value of certain things? You know? So, does

1409
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 5: AI do great stuff? Yes? Is it there where sometimes

1410
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 5: you watch on the internet the commercial of AI. So

1411
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 5: we all work in the business and commercial didn't have

1412
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 5: it yesterday. They did six months with this campaign. So

1413
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 5: when they roll out the campaign, they make everybody think

1414
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 5: that you can do that. Then everybody pays the twenty

1415
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 5: nine ninety nine, the thirty nine ninety nine, and then

1416
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 5: they're there and they realize they're not editors and they

1417
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: can't fucking.

1418
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: Do it, and shit looks weird. And then they just.

1419
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 5: Already got the money, they already got the thirty nine

1420
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 5: ninety nine, they got the membership, and then maybe six

1421
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 5: months from now it'll do something that you really wanted

1422
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: it to do. It's an amazing tool and it is

1423
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 5: going to shift the game. So you have to really

1424
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 5: figure out how to implement it into your lifestyle.

1425
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 7: You cannot push it away.

1426
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 4: You don't think that the big studios, though, would eventually

1427
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 4: phase out the traditional filmmakers for just people who.

1428
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: Got TPT, people directors that know how to use the

1429
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: AI systems potentially.

1430
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 5: But today there was a thing that I saw about Lionsgate,

1431
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 5: who did a deal with Runway early, and there's an

1432
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 5: issue with copyright.

1433
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 7: So there's an issue, a.

1434
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: Huge issue with covering right.

1435
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 5: It still hasn't been figured out So I was uploading

1436
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 5: a song, you know, I have my own record label,

1437
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 5: to our own music group, let me shout it out.

1438
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 5: But we were onboarding a song with Symphonic and they

1439
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: were like, what parts of this have been AI driven?

1440
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: Right?

1441
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 5: Like what part of this song is AI? And I

1442
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 5: was like, what is that about? I asked them and

1443
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 5: they were like, it's not about anything. But we wanted

1444
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: to get ahead of it because what could happen in

1445
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 5: six months is that if your song is AI driven,

1446
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 5: they might ask what was your prompt? And if your

1447
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 5: prompt was like I want something that sounds like Timberland's record,

1448
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: then Timblan's going to get paid off your ship because

1449
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 5: you use this, you.

1450
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 4: Know, as what the AI actual model was was mining from.

1451
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: Because that's the other problem exactly. So I want to

1452
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: say one thing. This is when I hated.

1453
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: And loved AI for the first time. Sopranos. I remember

1454
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: the mom died, yes, and you can tell that she

1455
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 2: didn't finish her script, so they do you remember that

1456
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 2: when the mom died and they used her, but they

1457
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 2: used her where you could tell it was AI.

1458
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you don't remember that was visual effects.

1459
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't touch it.

1460
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 2: Wasn't a vial effects because remember she died in real life, Yes,

1461
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: and they had.

1462
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: These visual effects like see there's a there's a big difference.

1463
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: AI.

1464
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 5: Visual effects is somebody controlling the atmosphere.

1465
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: And that's what they had Tupac doing on stage right,

1466
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 2: that was visual effects, and they had.

1467
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 5: They created AI is something like where if we're here

1468
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 5: and I want to I took a picture and I

1469
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 5: wanted to change the environment, I just pressed one button

1470
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 5: and it does it on its own without the huge

1471
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 5: the use of another completely Wow. So so look, the

1472
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 5: I is incredible. It's about consistency. But you know what

1473
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 5: happens sometimes too, is like who owns it? So imagine

1474
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 5: I do an AI and I say, yo, I want

1475
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 5: to make an AI about this, and you know, and

1476
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 5: then I created something that's cool, starts going viral, and

1477
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 5: then you say, I want to make the AI about that.

1478
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: AI is gonna make you the same thing.

1479
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 7: You can sell T shirts and the same thing.

1480
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: That I just created, but I don't own it because AI.

1481
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: So none of us isn't copy infringement if we do

1482
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: it like that.

1483
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying.

1484
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 5: It's like who owns the I P that's the big thing. Okay, Right,

1485
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 5: So that's why the studios are suing mid Journey because

1486
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 5: they're like, you're telling people. People are typing in I

1487
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 5: want a show that looks like Pixar, and they're creating

1488
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 5: characters in the style that they created. So it's like,

1489
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 5: how do you own it if you're copying this?

1490
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: You remember, think about the sample of analysis done. He

1491
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: goes no, mine is dun. That's little different than trying

1492
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: to say no. It's not the same.

1493
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: It's like somebody like pulling up a beat and saying

1494
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 2: I want so on to sound like, oh, you're makando right.

1495
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: I told the the other guys I want I want

1496
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: what what what? I didn't want that, and they came

1497
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: in your voice.

1498
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 8: I know somewhere now that they're in London. I mean,

1499
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 8: I gotta say London. They're somewhere now, and they have

1500
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 8: the actors. They're talking to AI because they're doing the

1501
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 8: whole movie AI generated, so the actors are licensing.

1502
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 5: They like this.

1503
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: For the movie. They like this, So it's all you

1504
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: gotta do is basically go to the studio.

1505
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 8: And they're talking, they're drinking, they're hanging out, they're chilling

1506
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 8: so AI. And then and then the AI is gonna

1507
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 8: do the movie with the images in it, So the

1508
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 8: whole entire movie time movie is gonna be a I the.

1509
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: Whole time time are these actors acting when they're talking

1510
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 2: to AAR.

1511
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: They're just chilling sounds. They pick up that man reference.

1512
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 8: So they're getting paid right now, a lot of money

1513
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 8: to hang out, chill, drink, fight, And then they'll talk

1514
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 8: to AI in different tones, different energy, so so I

1515
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 8: can get their mannerisms so they can recreate them in

1516
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 8: this movie that's not going to be real. And then

1517
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 8: another thing that's sorry, and another thing that's happening now

1518
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 8: with AI as a casting director. So now women or

1519
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 8: actors are doing I a AI reels. So they're like

1520
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 8: in action movies, running, chasing, fighting aliens and stuff, and

1521
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 8: they're sending me their reels or something they've done before,

1522
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 8: but it's all AI generated and they look incredible, so

1523
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 8: I love them.

1524
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: I have to come up. I have to come into

1525
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: the cast. Oh my god, come to the cast. And

1526
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, who are you guys, gentlemen.

1527
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 8: No, I'm Jenny from the I'm like Jenny, and I'm

1528
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 8: like Jenny, do you look.

1529
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: Nothing like that knows a little polish palace. Oh, you

1530
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: ain't seen the thing with the podcasters.

1531
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: It's all over Instagram where they show a dude, yeah,

1532
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,919
Speaker 4: and he shows himself as a as a chick doing.

1533
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: A podcast or live streaming, and he looks like a chicken.

1534
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: He sounds like a chick and everything. You know, it's

1535
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: no yah, this hard cord of them.

1536
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 5: And sometimes you'd be like, Yo, come to my acting class,

1537
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 5: and like like, let's say we're in a room like this,

1538
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 5: and there's a door that opens the acting class, and

1539
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: he'll put like a hundred chairs like stacked it. Like

1540
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 5: if the acting class starts at three pm, three or one,

1541
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 5: he puts like a hundred chairs like stacked against the door.

1542
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 5: So like I'll be there and I'm like, what are

1543
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 5: you doing? Then he'll be like stacking all these chairs

1544
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 5: and then someone comes in at three or two in

1545
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 5: those chairs. I just go there, let's see what the

1546
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 5: excuse this person? You were busy? Oh the traffic on

1547
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: the train.

1548
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: Did anybody else think the train? It's hard?

1549
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:43,879
Speaker 8: Good's acting rehab classes.

1550
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 2: I've been doing about that because you have acting classes.

1551
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: One of my homegirls As soon as I told her,

1552
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: she was like, yeah, like her friends, go to your

1553
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: acting classes.

1554
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: If this is in New York City, No, I do it.

1555
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 8: I used to do it in person, and then when

1556
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 8: when virtual, when COVID happened, somebody's east side, not just

1557
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 8: with the zoom, So then I started zoom things. I've

1558
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 8: done it all lover place, New York, for Rico, La whatever, Miami.

1559
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 8: But then zoom happened, and then my classes sell out

1560
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 8: in two seconds is three people from Queens, they go

1561
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 8: from La and that, so.

1562
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: It's been zoom.

1563
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 8: But but then I would cast people and then they

1564
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 8: would come to sit and freak out because they were

1565
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 8: just great on TV, not in person. So that's one

1566
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty people, a crew, lights, camera action, they paniced.

1567
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 8: So then I do pop ups every once in a while,

1568
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 8: like two months in I would have a pop up

1569
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 8: and do an in person, so see what happens or whatever.

1570
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 5: But acting rehab was creative. It's a tough tea.

1571
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's not tough. It's that people tell you no, no.

1572
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 5: He could be right on the border of Kansabe like

1573
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 5: that in a good.

1574
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: Way, in a good way.

1575
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 5: But he's hard because you know what happens is that

1576
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: like in our culture, and that's why he started acting

1577
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 5: class in our culture, everybody just think they now true.

1578
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: Bring him in the let's go anywhere, let's go. He

1579
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: was a actor rehead.

1580
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 2: I was like, no.

1581
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 5: Actor drink.

1582
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what ahead to drink. You had to drink,

1583
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: you know.

1584
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 5: Part of but part of that was was started because

1585
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 5: like a lot of times, my brother was the one

1586
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 5: that I had to get like Latino actors, and you know,

1587
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 5: a lot of people come in and they're just like,

1588
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 5: have you study people?

1589
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 1: I think I'm natural, you know that, And.

1590
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 5: They have like one sentence, they can maybe do one

1591
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 5: sentence as their persona, and and they can't go beyond that,

1592
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 5: and you know, because they don't have the ability to

1593
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 5: don't have the structure to work. So he's tough. I've

1594
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 5: been in his act. He's tough on the people, and

1595
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: I think they like it because he's like, you know,

1596
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 5: he four base, he's terrible, you're whack.

1597
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,520
Speaker 1: It's hard.

1598
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 8: I'm just like you got nobody likes it. Everybody hates

1599
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 8: me into two years later, I get the focal. Oh

1600
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 8: my god, I just got that casting and this happened,

1601
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 8: and I did that, and it was so a person.

1602
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: I got the job, like love you love me, but

1603
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: you hated me for two years, motherfucker. And I tell everybody, well,

1604
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta love me late that's school. You

1605
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: hung up the phone this way.

1606
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll tell you the birth of actor Rehab Ahad.

1607
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: So I did.

1608
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 8: We did a casting for a movie called Prison Song.

1609
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: Prison Song, that's what in nineteen ninety nine, r right,

1610
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: And it's crazy.

1611
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 8: I still have the v A tested okay, and everybody

1612
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 8: came in for that eve half.

1613
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 5: It's five people did in that in.

1614
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 8: That and I was like the videos like six months

1615
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 8: ago and it's like five people passed away. Prodigy, Murder, Santana.

1616
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 8: Once you go on that anyway, So so that was

1617
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 8: they said it was in the eraror that no Mary

1618
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 8: direct that movie.

1619
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: Me.

1620
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 8: I was casting and Jesse came in, tell me what Yeah,

1621
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 8: so she didn't arcing like that. She brought me, she

1622
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 8: gave she filed the studio to let me cast the movie.

1623
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 8: They wouldn't let me do it. He said, well I'm

1624
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 8: not doing the movie. Then you know, she held me

1625
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 8: down like that night. So then Jesse was in the

1626
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 8: lad So I was like, Jesse, come to New York prisons.

1627
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 5: But side started to jump in when I got so plain, okay,

1628
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 5: I told him that my brother was gonna cast it,

1629
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 5: and he had mad credits at this point, and they

1630
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 5: said the same ship that he couldn't cast it. They

1631
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 5: were like, and I was like, you know what, he

1632
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 5: wanted to see a different face. So those ladies I

1633
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 5: work with, I called Sheila and I said, Yo, Shila,

1634
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 5: I'm doing this movie. They're trying to hate on my brother.

1635
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 5: Can you come in and do it with my brother,

1636
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 5: you know, blah blah blah, And she said yeah, got

1637
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 5: She said, I got you.

1638
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 8: No, we've been fighting for thirty four years, right, you know,

1639
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 8: it was still fighting for Latinos to get in the

1640
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 8: build anyway, So we do a prison soon, right. So

1641
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 8: I saw everybody in New York that was black, that

1642
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 8: called themselves an actor, and every rap star, every rap star,

1643
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 8: anybody that was anybody in New York. Originally it was

1644
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 8: New Line Films. It was like it was like fifteen minutes.

1645
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: That was a big deal for New York.

1646
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 8: Right, So I saw everybody, right, and everybody that came in.

1647
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 10: Was terrible, right, Sugar Stars. I was big fans and

1648
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 10: they were terrible. No, they know right, even by Jovi came.

1649
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 10: Oh my god, what I'm saying from.

1650
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: End up getting cast? No, it was we had no

1651
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,640
Speaker 1: No Jovi didn't do it.

1652
01:15:55,680 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 9: This didn't do it far Yeah, yeah he got he

1653
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 9: got Joey.

1654
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1655
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 8: You know, it was everybody. Nobody was an actor. This

1656
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 8: was in the nineties. Nobody was acting. Nobody knew how

1657
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 8: to do it. So then this guy walks in. Okay,

1658
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 8: let's talk about it.

1659
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: I was walking. I don't even know. Tell her. This

1660
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 1: is what drink Chems started. Yeah, drink Champs store. Okay.

1661
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: I came in drunk, No you okay? What he came

1662
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: in sober?

1663
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 5: Okay, came in sober, came in sober, and it didn't

1664
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 5: work out, Like the.

1665
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: Scene didn't agree.

1666
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 8: Right, I was so I was like, yeah, man, yeah, no,

1667
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 8: I'm not sure if it worked out.

1668
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: Give me a minute. He left, you.

1669
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 8: Left, like, then he comes back in.

1670
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: He's like, it's like.

1671
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 5: Okay, She's like Santa Lights was like, yo, what's up, brother.

1672
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: What's good. He's like, yeah, what's up, brother, what's good?

1673
01:16:59,200 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: You smell me?

1674
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 8: You're like, you know, that's not in the script that

1675
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 8: come on, you don't smell met And I'm like.

1676
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: You me and the director they say no, I like that,

1677
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 1: smell me. Let me keep doing that.

1678
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: And we're like cool, cool me so that I've never

1679
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: read of the script of my life.

1680
01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: Smell me thing right, So she's like, I love to

1681
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: know me think let's cast them, let me cast them.

1682
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 8: He comes to said like a couple of weeks later,

1683
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 8: when Lebronch somewhere him in.

1684
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: The trade, he pulls up, he gets into his trail.

1685
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, where the fucks to Hennessey.

1686
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 5: I'm like.

1687
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 1: You're talking about Remember when.

1688
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 5: He came back.

1689
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, list.

1690
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 5: Something like six, yeah.

1691
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 1: And you do else.

1692
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: I remember they tried to get me a car, and

1693
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: I was like that, use my own car, Use my

1694
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: own car.

1695
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: That's my uncle. But you know, let me tell you

1696
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: a funny story about that. That's funny. Man. When when

1697
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: they cast cast this this ship, I'm not gonna cast

1698
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: Excuse me, excuse me.

1699
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 2: When they do like a secret a screening premier just

1700
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: for the actors or whatever, so I don't know, it's

1701
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 2: Mary J. Blise right in front of me. So I go,

1702
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: I go in there and Marry jay Blies and a

1703
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,640
Speaker 2: couple of other I believe Q Tip is there and

1704
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 2: this was like a private screening and you know, I

1705
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: love myself, so I was.

1706
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I killed this ship.

1707
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm sitting there and I'm kicking the

1708
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,600
Speaker 2: chair the whole time, like you know, like you're like,

1709
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 2: I'm in the real movie to but I'm not.

1710
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: Realizing it's someone in this chair. Not only I'm not

1711
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 1: realizing someone.

1712
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this was this is one of those

1713
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 2: like I don't think she felt it, but I'm sure

1714
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: she heard it, and I'm sure it's like something. And

1715
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 2: then at the end of the day she was like,

1716
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 2: you know what s calling And I was like, oh,

1717
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm so star stroke. I was like, oh she that's married,

1718
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 2: and she was like, and by the way, you didn't

1719
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: even say hi to be the whole time I was.

1720
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: Married. I'm sorry. I was so struck. Moments Marry was

1721
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: the biggest star in that movie.

1722
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 8: Since that nobody can talk to her, just just me,

1723
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 8: I was.

1724
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: I was like, this is great, but that is great.

1725
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 1: So now moving on.

1726
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: Now, this is a question, why isn't that the latinos

1727
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: and soul playing there is the biggest question.

1728
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 5: That's a good question. But there's one that's a good question.

1729
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 5: I told that we tell this story. So, Okay, when

1730
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 5: I was working on the project, you know the movie

1731
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:36,879
Speaker 5: Trading Places.

1732
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 2: Trading Places, got that girl movie Murray Trading Okay, yeah.

1733
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: I was working on that for.

1734
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 5: I was I wrote a concept.

1735
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: You saw the.

1736
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 5: So I wrote a concept that was like Trading Places

1737
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 5: about this kid who like these rich guys were like

1738
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 5: the airline was down and they gave them there.

1739
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

1740
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 5: So I sent it to my agency.

1741
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: Because because they had soul playing already, right.

1742
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,680
Speaker 5: I didn't know it that I wrote this idea and

1743
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 5: I sent it and they were like, oh my mom,

1744
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 5: we think it's a cool idea. And then as they

1745
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 5: talked to people in Hollywood, it was like, oh, there's

1746
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 5: a project called soul Plain.

1747
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: They didn't like.

1748
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 5: I didn't like the name. So I was like, yeah,

1749
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 5: soul Plaining, like you know, got to be called that

1750
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. So they were like, yo, but this

1751
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 5: movie is already going that n Gail, So you want

1752
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. Take a meeting with them. So I

1753
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 5: took a meeting with them and then ended up getting

1754
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 5: the movie.

1755
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: Right, so you wanted up get did you could buy

1756
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: your movie with that movie? And that's what so playing is.

1757
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 5: I tried to a certain extent and yeah, but they

1758
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 5: didn't buy your script or anything like that, or they

1759
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 5: didn't buy my script, but they might hate me for

1760
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 5: this stun.

1761
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 1: Sol playing to your script.

1762
01:20:54,520 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go.

1763
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 5: So so, you know, I felt the story needed rewrites.

1764
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 5: So I was like, yes, the movie needs rewrites and

1765
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 5: rewrites and rewrites. And they had me me with a

1766
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 5: bunch of writers. So I met with these two black

1767
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 5: writers and the Asian kid. They were like a team,

1768
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 5: and I was like, these guys are the guys. You

1769
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 5: know this is the funniest version of the movie. And

1770
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 5: I was, we're going with them. They pictured the movie,

1771
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 5: it was fucking great, blah blah blah, and then cut

1772
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 5: to like a month later. Cut to like a month later,

1773
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 5: and I'm sitting in a room in the conference room

1774
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 5: and it's like, dude, that's not them on the other

1775
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 5: side of the room. And he's like, yeah, we're gonna

1776
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,719
Speaker 5: do this changes.

1777
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: The writer Yeah, okay, okay, when do these changes. He's

1778
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: telling me everything.

1779
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 5: These three kids didn't tell you the same thing they

1780
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 5: told me. Yeah, So I was like yo. So this

1781
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 5: was like like first like Hollywood moment. I was like, yo,

1782
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 5: I can't do this like you know these kids. I

1783
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 5: was just like, yo, got you you know what I mean.

1784
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 5: I gave us the best idea and this dude is

1785
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 5: giving me.

1786
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: All the this.

1787
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 5: So I call my agent and I was like, Yo,

1788
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 5: this don't feel right. You know what I'm saying, Like

1789
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,520
Speaker 5: this is not right. This kid just stole their ideas.

1790
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 5: So when I went to the studio, they were like,

1791
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 5: he's just a better writer like me. Of these kids

1792
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 5: were so young then I could writers. So I said,

1793
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 5: why the fuck did you have the me with me

1794
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 5: to steal that ship?

1795
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:38,559
Speaker 1: That the concept here?

1796
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 5: So I was like ya, I told my agent and

1797
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 5: he stuck by me, you know.

1798
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: What I mean.

1799
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 5: Charles King, you know, Charles King's incredible fucking dude. And

1800
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 5: we fought it.

1801
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: And then they let those kids write the movie. So

1802
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: the kids came back.

1803
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 5: They didn't rewrite, you know what I mean, because I

1804
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 5: was like, yo, I can't. I couldn't have stomach this.

1805
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: I get it.

1806
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 7: So we started writing it.

1807
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 5: So at some point I was like, before we catch

1808
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,840
Speaker 5: Kevin or whatever I was. You know, I was working

1809
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 5: with Chris Robinson. So let's go back to that story, right.

1810
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 5: So I was working with Chris Robinson writing concepts. So

1811
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 5: Chris would do like a retreat every year that He's like,

1812
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 5: let's do a retreat for the Robot films.

1813
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Let's go to Brazil Fire. But but it didn't happen

1814
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: that way. What happened was.

1815
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no no no. But that particular story.

1816
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 5: What happened was that Chris was like when I saw Snoop,

1817
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 5: And this is another story. I met Snoop outside of

1818
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 5: the music business on some street ship. I met him

1819
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 5: outside of the music business. But I go to the

1820
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 5: MTV Awards, I'm nominated. I'm fucking with Chris. I see Snoop.

1821
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 5: So we were like talking to Snoop's like, YO, I

1822
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 5: got you my brother. I'm gonna give you a bag tomorrow,

1823
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 5: call me, you know, blah blah blah. Chris was like yo,

1824
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 5: like he had never been to Snup's house before. Stud

1825
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 5: was like, come to his house tomorrow. We had the

1826
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 5: MTV Awards. He was the biggest artist in the world.

1827
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 5: So Chris was like, damn, I did like four videos

1828
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 5: of stud I've never been to his house. So Christ

1829
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 5: was like, y'all, I'm I'm a rocket. You go to

1830
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 5: the house. So we go to Snoop's house and Snoop

1831
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 5: was like, he starts playing a bunch of music and

1832
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,839
Speaker 5: he gives me a job. Well, where is I going.

1833
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: To the story that wasn't going He was asking you

1834
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: about the wife. No, latinos and soul. That's where it

1835
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: else starts. Yes, so so this is where it's going.

1836
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure that's good. No, no,

1837
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: but this is where. This is where it's going.

1838
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 5: So so Snoop is like, he plays me a song

1839
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 5: that he gives me out of his heart one hundred

1840
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 5: and fifty grand in that.

1841
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Era, I think I know where you might be going this.

1842
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 5: It gives me one hundred and fifty grand in that

1843
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 5: era to do a video for him. I was nominated

1844
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 5: at the MTV Awards for Joe Scott long Walk and

1845
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 5: I and I see Snoop at the TV.

1846
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: Well he was the biggest rob in the world. He started.

1847
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 5: He sees me and me and Snoop like I said,

1848
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 5: I met him in the streets. He shows me mad

1849
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 5: love and everybody's like, yo, how do you know Snoop?

1850
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: You know?

1851
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,560
Speaker 5: And Snoop's like, yo, he says random stories like he

1852
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 5: ain't just fuck the same bitches, but it was just

1853
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 5: maybe he was fucking some bitches. I didn't know about it,

1854
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,679
Speaker 5: but he just said that as a joke. But everybody

1855
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 5: was confused or how I knew Stoop but I hadn't

1856
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 5: met him. They couldn't connect, you guys, they couldn't connected.

1857
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 5: But when he invited me to his house to take

1858
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 5: care of me and Snoop showed me the love. He said, Yo,

1859
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a video. Come to my

1860
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 5: house tomorrow. Chris was like, yo, ship, you're going to

1861
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 5: Christ's house. So Chris came with me and he played

1862
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 5: the song. He wanted me to do the video Snoop

1863
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 5: out of his you know, Snoop, I love Snoop Dump.

1864
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 5: He gave me the money out of his love and said, Yo,

1865
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 5: I'm ana fucking push Jesse throw forward. He gave me

1866
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 5: a job. I did it, but while we were at

1867
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 5: his house, Chris Robinson at that time Damn Martel.

1868
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 7: Which I worked at the video.

1869
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 5: For that album, and then Chris was like, yo, what's up,

1870
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 5: Like you know Chris was working with Snoop and was like, yo, Christmas,

1871
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 5: I saved the best ship for you, and he pressed

1872
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 5: play it's beautiful Wow.

1873
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: And when he played beautiful, we were like holy ship.

1874
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, let's go to d R.

1875
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: We were talking about a bunch.

1876
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 5: Of places and nobody had ever been to Brazil, so

1877
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 5: we were like, fucking, let's go to Brazil. So we

1878
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,919
Speaker 5: ended up going to Brazil and snow and Chris Robinson

1879
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 5: that moment said you know what his retreat for every

1880
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 5: year was going to be Brazil.

1881
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 2: I would have changed it to that too, Brazil.

1882
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: So we went to Brazil.

1883
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 5: So when I was in Brazil, that's when the news

1884
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 5: of Soul playing was coming out, and Snoop was like, yo, Jess.

1885
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 5: We was like having a Snoop session and he was like,

1886
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 5: I do want to fly the plane Dog. And at

1887
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 5: that point we had already cast John Witherspoon with a

1888
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 5: spoon was going to.

1889
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: Box right, You're already it was cast, okay.

1890
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 5: So Sup was like, y'all, I want to fly the

1891
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 5: plane Dog. So you know, we were so fucked up.

1892
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, we were hire a ship.

1893
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 5: I was like, you know, I talked to you don't

1894
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 5: want to fly the plane, but he was like going

1895
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 5: to fly the plane. So I went back to GM

1896
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 5: and ILL said yo, and damn gym guys were like

1897
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 5: there were you know, Mass super Corporated and they were.

1898
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Like, oh, he's the gang banger, he's this he d

1899
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 1: I was like, have you have.

1900
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 5: A mess Snoop dog? Like what are you guys talking about?

1901
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 5: Like I was like, look, do me one favor.

1902
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: Let's go to Snoop's house.

1903
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 5: I meeting with Snoop and if you feel different than whatever,

1904
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 5: so then I'm Snoop invited us to the church.

1905
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: You know he has his house here and invite us

1906
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: to the church.

1907
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 5: And you know they were getting searched on the way

1908
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 5: and so.

1909
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Like, and we went in there and stupid, so funny.

1910
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 5: They had an incredible time with Snoop, so they were like, yo,

1911
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 5: so they went with Snoop. So after we cast out,

1912
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 5: I had a little more strength because it's like now

1913
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 5: I got Snoop because Kevin Hardy, you got to think

1914
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 5: about it, he wasn't a star at that moment.

1915
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 1: I caught for Kevin because I only had paper soldiers.

1916
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: That's for me too.

1917
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was supposed to do people.

1918
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, yeah no. So when when we ended

1919
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 5: up catching Snoopy at John Willerspoon, Monigue a bunch of people,

1920
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 5: Kevin was one of the last pieces too, because Kevin

1921
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 5: wasn't a star at that time. So I told the studio,

1922
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 5: I said hey, And this was crazy because I told him.

1923
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: I said I was Latino.

1924
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to tell the studio he was Latino. Didn't.

1925
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 5: No, let me tell you when I told them, because

1926
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 5: why is this over the phone?

1927
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: No? No, in my meetings I had an office at MGM.

1928
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 5: Yes, almost their eyes were like, holy ship.

1929
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 1: What you're saying that. I was like, okay, okay.

1930
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 5: I can I do a movie if I'm not black,

1931
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 5: it's a black movie.

1932
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 7: They were like hide me because I was doing hip

1933
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 7: hop videos.

1934
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 1: They thought I was black. And when I told them

1935
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: I was luck you know what I like.

1936
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, yo, chill, it's gonna be okay.

1937
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 5: But they were so worried, and I was like yo.

1938
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 5: But I did tell them because they were like that said, look, man,

1939
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 5: I can't do this movie if I don't put Latino.

1940
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 1: Characters in it.

1941
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 5: Because I got at least show part of my culture

1942
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 5: and so I wrote, uh, stewardess that had one line,

1943
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 5: and I wrote these two Latino kids that worked like

1944
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 5: baggage check and and and they were like fuck that.

1945
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 5: They were trying to go on the plane. So they

1946
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 5: snuck inside the baggage plane ship. So and Jim was like,

1947
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: you know, we read your changes in the script and

1948
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 5: the Latino two male characters. There are no goat but

1949
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 5: the hot latinus she's a goat. Oh the one line.

1950
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 5: So so I was like, okay.

1951
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 7: So, so I told.

1952
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 5: The casting director, you know with u Leid. They were like,

1953
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 5: what do you want? I say, I sent them a

1954
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 5: video with Sophiaba God because she was popping in Colombia.

1955
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 5: I said, yo, I wanted so fielverd guy that tight

1956
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 5: m And then all of a sudden they worked it

1957
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 5: out and and she came into the castle.

1958
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Wow. And I'm like, oh, ship fucking so Feaver got it.

1959
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 5: And then the real one, the real when she was

1960
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 5: you wanted to she wanted, you.

1961
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Wanted one life. I just won that cray she was

1962
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: she was a little red life start. Now she had this.

1963
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: This is her first twenty years ago, a classic. It

1964
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 1: feels like it came out last year every year when.

1965
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 5: They when they when she walked into the womb, I

1966
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 5: was like, it's so fever got I wanted the field

1967
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 5: got it tight. So I was like, you know, you

1968
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 5: miss's you know, following time. But they got her to

1969
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 5: come in, so I was like wow. And so I

1970
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 5: told Sophia, I said, you want to be in this movie?

1971
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 5: She said, you know, her son had read it, but

1972
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 5: she had she you know, I had a son young,

1973
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 5: so she had a son that had read and she

1974
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,479
Speaker 5: she hadn't done American movie. So she was like, I

1975
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 5: want to do it. So I said, you know what

1976
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 5: you want to be in this movie, I'm gonna put

1977
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 5: you in this entire moo now rewrote the movie and.

1978
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: That's why she's.

1979
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm looking for like Latino Presidence. And I was like

1980
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that because she was in but

1981
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 2: you know, you know, she's so embedded in my brain.

1982
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: Get up.

1983
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:49,839
Speaker 5: Princess wrote.

1984
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:56,880
Speaker 1: To the movie my brother because they try to hate

1985
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:57,679
Speaker 1: on him. And then.

1986
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 5: Right, you're the code signe and she had the studio

1987
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 5: comfortable and he ran the whole thing.

1988
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 8: And I still have the video of that too. Her audition,

1989
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 8: she had like true lines it's a mind blowing below

1990
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:10,559
Speaker 8: two lines.

1991
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 5: And just she was like, now I tell you, I

1992
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 5: mean Sophia because she was a novella star at the time.

1993
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,719
Speaker 5: She was gigantic, beautiful, fucking you know, she was ready

1994
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 5: to be a star. She would come to set and

1995
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 5: because maybe in the Spanish television they did whack makeup,

1996
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, she would do her own

1997
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 5: makeup and I would tell her like, yo, there's makeup.

1998
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: Artist in the trailer.

1999
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 5: This is a you know, it's a studio movie, you know,

2000
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,840
Speaker 5: at and she was just chill and she didn't you know,

2001
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 5: she had this thing where it was it was beautiful

2002
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 5: because she was like beautiful and hot, but she had

2003
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 5: this like force field that made you feel like I

2004
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 5: want to.

2005
01:32:54,320 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Be cool and that no stupid respect was she white people?

2006
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 5: You know what just saying? Is that an interesting end though,

2007
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,679
Speaker 5: is that when I worked with Diane, she did Methody

2008
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 5: married during the time Diamon and methan Man is in

2009
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 5: soul Play.

2010
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: But let me ask you something about that. Well, I'm

2011
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 2: sorry to cut you off. It was a rumor that

2012
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 2: medde Man took that role very very serious.

2013
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,879
Speaker 5: Tell us, so look, we see the way Mathea Man's career.

2014
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: Is because we have methany on here and we had

2015
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 2: Snoop on hair and we both asked them.

2016
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 1: So now we got to act. Now, by the way,

2017
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,479
Speaker 1: this is you, the guys behind the camera. So how

2018
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: did this come use? Is now like we get really serious.

2019
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 5: Let me tell you everything. Metha man is done. He

2020
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 5: takes serious. They're both similar in terms of work ethic.

2021
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 5: But what happened was that, you know, I was already

2022
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 5: fighting for Snoop. So people don't understand the fights for

2023
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 5: a methane man, you know what I mean. They just

2024
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 5: see like you call the agents. But I'm like on

2025
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 5: the other side telling them a methand man could be

2026
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 5: a star for a comedy, you know, I mean it's tough.

2027
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 5: And you know, like I built a fucking platform for

2028
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 5: Kevin Hard to walk on so he could be tall

2029
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 5: enough to fit in the frames of people because they

2030
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 5: didn't see.

2031
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Him a leading man. He did tall and so playing

2032
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:38,640
Speaker 1: somebody pulled up the post he was he was.

2033
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was heidening like that what they let me google.

2034
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: But so so all right, so the first person who

2035
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: cast or soul playing, you know, there was different people

2036
01:34:58,720 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 1: we cast, so Okay.

2037
01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 5: What I'm saying is that when Snoop cons the trip

2038
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:06,440
Speaker 5: to Brazil, I thought for Snoop, he got cast.

2039
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Okay, but met the man. He put in the work,

2040
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: so he had the audition.

2041
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 5: No, he put yes, he put in the work, met

2042
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 5: the man as an actor, And it was about being

2043
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 5: serious because you at that time, rappers weren't serious, so

2044
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 5: we don't know what we're gonna get. So part of

2045
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 5: like what the studio might have asked from like a

2046
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 5: method man at that time, was that you can't smoke. No,

2047
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 5: we no this or that, because they were like, yeah,

2048
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 5: we don't want that ship on our set right right,

2049
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 5: we want to control it. We want to be cool,

2050
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 5: like we want to be pro special or whatever. Snoop

2051
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 5: we got for five days and he was one of

2052
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 5: the big stars of our movie.

2053
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:50,480
Speaker 1: He smoked every day. So so when we got Snoop.

2054
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 5: And I was able to close that deal, we had

2055
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 5: to try to figure it out that Snoop had a

2056
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 5: big altercation at the time with sug and a bunch

2057
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,839
Speaker 5: of that happened, so we had a lot of police

2058
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 5: and people after us, and so we had to create

2059
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 5: this environment. So we built an environment inside the studio

2060
01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 5: because let's say Snoop was in the in the trailer,

2061
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 5: he was smoking weed, the cops could maybe enter because

2062
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 5: he's doing something illegal.

2063
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 7: So we had to build something.

2064
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,400
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, it's not what people thought, Like Meta

2065
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 5: man might have thought we gave him like extra privilege,

2066
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 5: but it wasn't because Snoop was under like a different situation.

2067
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 5: So we built inside the studio a room for Snoop

2068
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 5: that had fucking ventilators and a bunch of shit because

2069
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 5: we know he was gonna smoke, but he couldn't smoke

2070
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 5: in the trailer because he had a mad drama and

2071
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 5: there was this drama. Sugar was a bunch of stuff.

2072
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 5: So we shot maybe four or five days with Met.

2073
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 5: He was on point, like smoking this today Memphis. For

2074
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 5: some motherfucker's discipline was.

2075
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,799
Speaker 1: That I saw.

2076
01:36:57,320 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 5: When Snoop got there and Met hooked up with Snoop

2077
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 5: and he saw this room we built with right, So yeah,

2078
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 5: it wasn't about that, But you know, I felt bad

2079
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,679
Speaker 5: because it wasn't about that, but it was about Snooper

2080
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 5: was in a tough situation.

2081
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 7: We were just trying to make the best situation we could.

2082
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, but for me as a director, I

2083
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 5: also didn't want the artist to be perceived a certain

2084
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 5: way from the studio because I'm trying to protect them too,

2085
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 5: because I'm like, we want to.

2086
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Make more movies like this, you know, so let me

2087
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: ask you, right, because you know I don't I don't

2088
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: want to.

2089
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 2: I never claim that I discovered Para because I didn't

2090
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 2: discovered Parral, right. I just worked with him on a

2091
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: come up and he became who he is. But that

2092
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 2: was like his first you know right here was with me.

2093
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: Let me tell you to tell you it was with

2094
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 2: him not to cut you out?

2095
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 5: Far is incredible, right, I discovered him from this kid,

2096
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 5: from that fracticity. So so and then the last story,

2097
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 5: the story I just told about.

2098
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: Snoop, Yeah, who came with us in Brazil. That's around.

2099
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Check it right. So I never like kind of like

2100
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,040
Speaker 2: claim that, but I do claim the fact that you know,

2101
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: we both took that that journey together. You know what

2102
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like like first hit record that he's in

2103
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: the video like outright, well this arguably like Kevin Hart's

2104
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 2: first like hit movie, right, like you know, like he

2105
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 2: was in Paper Soldiers before that. And I don't I

2106
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: don't remember what else, but this is outright. Uh is

2107
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 2: a cult following right to this day. But so you

2108
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 2: got nothing, man, you got snoop? How did you cast

2109
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 2: Kevin Harden? And what what made you cast? For lack

2110
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,759
Speaker 2: of a better term, unknown at that top incomer instead

2111
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 2: of you know, you could have got Westy Snipes, you

2112
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 2: could have got you know what.

2113
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 5: I would say that that it's a gift in the

2114
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 5: courage sometimes that you just want to do shit from

2115
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 5: your heart, you know, because the studio gets pissed off

2116
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 5: and you don't do the shit they asked you to do.

2117
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: And I had a lot of.

2118
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 5: Negative energy around MGM because I cast Kevin Hart. But

2119
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 5: I was aggressive in terms of my strength, in terms

2120
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 5: of I felt he was a guy. They showed me

2121
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,719
Speaker 5: a lot of guys and I won't talk about everybody,

2122
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 5: but some of the comedians that they showed me at

2123
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:35,599
Speaker 5: that time were what they called uninsurable. There's like when

2124
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 5: you do a movie, it has to be insurable, like

2125
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 5: meaning like I put a fifteen million dollars, Who's going

2126
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 5: to ensure my fifteen right? So somebody, a company, insurance

2127
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 5: company comes and insurance that money.

2128
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 1: Wow, Because they're no their liabilities. Oh and like personal

2129
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: life their liability. Okay, so so let's say, let's use

2130
01:39:58,600 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: Noria as an instant.

2131
01:39:59,479 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 5: For my store.

2132
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: Who you don't want to lose. Mister Lee. Let know

2133
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: what this story.

2134
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:15,520
Speaker 2: Dominic the Dominican. Yeah, that is mister Lee is uninsureable.

2135
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,560
Speaker 2: He's unsureble Jesus.

2136
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,280
Speaker 7: Was the star of my movie.

2137
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay, he is already.

2138
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 5: Though let me tell you, mister leeds alradio stuff the

2139
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 5: fucking call. Let's imagine mister Lee, right, so imagine miss Lee.

2140
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 5: I cast him in the movie. But we have to

2141
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 5: raise capital. So the Capitol raising guys like us, it's

2142
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 5: corporate motherfuckers. And they going, you see, it's the Capitol people, right,

2143
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 5: They're like, we're gonna put three four million dows on

2144
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 5: mister Lee.

2145
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 1: And they checked mister Lee. Miss Lee's out there doing

2146
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: ship that mister because he's in booby trapped. He's in

2147
01:40:59,240 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Booby trapp.

2148
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 4: But let me ask this question, though, isn't this already

2149
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 4: a studio film or this is no I'm talking about studio.

2150
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: The studio has to raise the money like that.

2151
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 5: Well no, but what I'm saying is that sometimes they

2152
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 5: have insurance against the movie gotcha. So when we were

2153
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 5: trying to cast sole playing, there was a lot of

2154
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 5: people that I liked.

2155
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: That were risky. So Kevin Hart was safe.

2156
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 5: No, Kevin Hart was no one in the equation. Okay,

2157
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 5: there with other people that were popping at that time.

2158
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Mike EPs.

2159
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't say Mike's my guy, but I got to

2160
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 5: some guys were risky at that time.

2161
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: I'm trying, thinking it's than three. Yeah, it might be, man,

2162
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 1: we don't need to see them. This is the show.

2163
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: Got that.

2164
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 7: So Kevin was new, it was new when he was little.

2165
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: He's still I mean like little, he's still likewise, That's

2166
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is the tallest cast of all time.

2167
01:41:57,479 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 1: Makes you tell me? Now you don't. You don't see Kevin.

2168
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Every heart is hilarious. He takes pictures on his Instagram

2169
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: and if you're told, and then it was so funny

2170
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,559
Speaker 2: about it. He tags the people, so I just click

2171
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 2: on the people that he cut off and then never

2172
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 2: have the picture like the picture exists. We're doing together perfectly.

2173
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm saying, this is your four being told.

2174
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: This is crazy, you know, to everybody that was super choy.

2175
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Everybody was told to me. Yeah, everybody had to give

2176
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: Kevi Clint he was He said he built.

2177
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 5: Two options right, so that there was one option to.

2178
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: Do like heels.

2179
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:43,000
Speaker 5: Was like, I'm not wearing heels, and there was an

2180
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 5: option to do the like. We called it the K board.

2181
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 5: And then we bring the board in. He cans stand

2182
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,559
Speaker 5: on it because the girl, the lead girl was five

2183
01:42:50,720 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 5: nine mental this is like sixty three snoops like six four,

2184
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 5: you know, so it's hard to fit them in the

2185
01:42:56,439 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 5: frame one, right, I don't know love Ken Yeah, he

2186
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 5: sure so I could definitely don'gle him in the basketball game.

2187
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 5: He could not be a So the thing is that,

2188
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, we had to make those adjustments in the studio.

2189
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,920
Speaker 5: Hated me for so then I was bringing snoop but

2190
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 5: it was just so much stuff. But I told him,

2191
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 5: I said, I had to have latinos in this fucking movie.

2192
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:24,400
Speaker 5: And the only person that gave me was Sophiel And.

2193
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: Because playing I.

2194
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 4: Think it's like, how did you were able to actually

2195
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 4: finesse him ends of the film though?

2196
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 1: You know what it like?

2197
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 7: Kevin Hark came to an audition.

2198
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:48,480
Speaker 5: My brother brought him in and he was incredible, incredible,

2199
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 5: he was the best thing that I saw, incredible, and

2200
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 5: I was like, fuck, this guy's so good. And that

2201
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 5: one time gam I went to the studio and they

2202
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 5: were like, he's not a leading man, he's I did this?

2203
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 1: Is that that?

2204
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 5: And I'm a short dude. Maybe not a shote Kevin,

2205
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 5: but I'm a sure dude. And I said that, like,

2206
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 5: am I going to remove his talent because of his height?

2207
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:26,160
Speaker 1: So in Hollywood racism very is is it great as

2208
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 1: for you? Man? No? No, this is called choices. You

2209
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:40,560
Speaker 1: have a choice. I made a choice yesterday. I was

2210
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 1: like you today.

2211
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: Time, But there really is like people like cast role form.

2212
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm playing around, but is that something that

2213
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: really exists? If you're like too small like question, let

2214
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 2: me speak for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's go.

2215
01:44:59,640 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 5: Let's go.

2216
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: Let go something you said, you.

2217
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 5: Have an advantage to say something.

2218
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 8: Man casting casting his race, casting his races. So I say,

2219
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 8: Tom Cruise, he's little five.

2220
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 1: The time? Who's a star?

2221
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,600
Speaker 8: Anybody five stick and over? They're not cast? They have

2222
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 8: to be five six? Oh wait, it's the tea show.

2223
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Wait wait, hold on, hold on timeout tomorrow you can

2224
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: set the cast and show you set the castle.

2225
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: If he's he's. They gotta cast everybody.

2226
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 5: Like this longs my height. They cast everybody short. Yeah,

2227
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 5: the tea is short. Everybody short to make you.

2228
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: You said, mister t is short because the loan as

2229
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 1: my height. Yeah yeah.

2230
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 8: Mess the busters alone with him and I was like,

2231
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 8: I was, I was like, well, but but but casting,

2232
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 8: why as you do this they look like.

2233
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 5: To cast accordingly like ben Affleck, guys, I got a

2234
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 5: tall so you can't up some guys. You gotta asked,

2235
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 5: real ship.

2236
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:07,560
Speaker 1: This is where I really could help, just automatically. So

2237
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: so that to go with casting now right.

2238
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the same thing that happened in our fucking house.

2239
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: Didn't let me have no love to see the move life.

2240
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:23,959
Speaker 1: I love to get older them. That's right, that's right, Ad.

2241
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:29,520
Speaker 8: So casting casting, right, I started casting.

2242
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:30,599
Speaker 1: To change the game.

2243
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 5: Right, let me get the sweat.

2244
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: I want to fight later. Let me do that. You

2245
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,679
Speaker 1: got sweat, but you don't.

2246
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 5: Want to know.

2247
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: He make up it the way. I just wanted to

2248
01:46:53,120 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 1: know that out there to take care of my brother. Ad,

2249
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 1: you're casting because of the like.

2250
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 8: So casting is racism, so I said, So I got

2251
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 8: in to change the game. So Mike Crossover movies. The

2252
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 8: movie called Kids, right, yeah, classic, I did that right,

2253
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 8: you can't yeah?

2254
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow.

2255
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 8: So this was ninety five ninety six. So they cast somebody.

2256
01:47:19,400 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, they cast someone to do the casting. And

2257
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 8: she got Telly and she got Chloe, the two leads, right,

2258
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 8: and then everybody else was the writer's harmon these friends

2259
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 8: Rosario adult and your friends, right, and then I cast

2260
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,720
Speaker 8: everybody else, you know what I'm saying.

2261
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: So, Mike, my credit was additional casting.

2262
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 8: I cast everybody else, the vibe whatever, So that that

2263
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 8: that became a multicultural little because before that it was

2264
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 8: white kenon Barbie, that was Louis on TV.

2265
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,639
Speaker 1: So Kids was so realistic it was everybody's, oh shit,

2266
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I want that.

2267
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 8: Then they will hire the girl, she'll get the job,

2268
01:47:56,560 --> 01:48:00,120
Speaker 8: and she couldn't deliver. Then they'll call the director, you know,

2269
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 8: so no, was you listening and they'll call me now.

2270
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 8: So so that's when things started changing whatever, right, But god,

2271
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:08,240
Speaker 8: damn switching to not.

2272
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: Know what I was saying. What was the direction we

2273
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: were talking about?

2274
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 9: We were talking about Cassie, Yeah, you racism and talked

2275
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 9: from racism. So anyway, so let's shure you know.

2276
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 8: So then the game started changing and they started putting

2277
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 8: real people in there, and nobody had it. And that's

2278
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 8: how my birth came about, because they were like, you

2279
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,479
Speaker 8: need real Cassie, you gotta call me or whatever.

2280
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 5: Right, And then I started.

2281
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 11: I was on the you know, all the urban films,

2282
01:48:40,320 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 11: all the commercials, all the crazy smoking Lord anyway, so

2283
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 11: no so.

2284
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:14,759
Speaker 1: You want to see sir. So I started doing all baby.

2285
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 8: I was working on all the crossover movies that made

2286
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 8: the noise. Like I said, Above the Rim, they hired

2287
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 8: me the extras casting on it.

2288
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: They're like, you the Juice did, yeah?

2289
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:30,280
Speaker 8: You knowicgo, Yeah, can we pay you to go pick

2290
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 8: him up at the airport?

2291
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: I was like sure, why not?

2292
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 5: It was terrified of him, So I paid him at

2293
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:38,800
Speaker 5: the airport because he might not tell that. So the

2294
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 5: same way, but you know, Tupac doing Above the Rim

2295
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 5: caught a bunch of the charges God during that movie

2296
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 5: and they would call him like, yo.

2297
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:50,680
Speaker 1: You want to go meet him?

2298
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 5: And because the studio was better than but it was

2299
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,879
Speaker 5: a crazy time, you know, it was insane.

2300
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: Then everybody started getting biggers.

2301
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,840
Speaker 8: All the hip hop videos started crossing over, and I started.

2302
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 8: I got in the commercial space and then that's when

2303
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 8: the money started coming.

2304
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 5: And that's why he's not talking to me.

2305
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 1: I got no one's I've seen this guy. This guy.

2306
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 5: The world that doesn't know this guy's already.

2307
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Welcome to Drinke Shad, Welcome to Drake James. You got

2308
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: you guys got a castle right now. No one, no one,

2309
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:34,680
Speaker 1: no one see this guy. I'm this guy and he's

2310
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: doing corporate brother. I'm the one of the I wonder

2311
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:38,600
Speaker 1: one of those streets. He's the one of.

2312
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 5: Corporate people anyway, So we're not when I talking that ship.

2313
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 5: He's been in there, He's been in the tweets. I've

2314
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 5: been in the streets.

2315
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: I got a twist. Oh going got him? No you

2316
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: got him? No recorded? You got you got record? You

2317
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 1: got him that. He's gotta be easy. You gotta not

2318
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: drink so much, you gotta you know what I'm saying.

2319
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: Don't say what you think.

2320
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 5: He's got the time doc.

2321
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 1: He said, some crazy ship. Please be easy. You know

2322
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 1: what I'm say. It's a big show. People see this ship.

2323
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he got the show. We got the show

2324
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,320
Speaker 1: coming out, so we can't get the show blocks. You

2325
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,519
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. No, I was gonna say that stuff.

2326
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: Don't say this stuff anyway.

2327
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 8: The show when we crossed over work and the money

2328
01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 8: started poinding.

2329
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 5: I was five thousand videos on.

2330
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 1: Three videos a week. I was doing commercial fifty fifty

2331
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: dollars video.

2332
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 5: I'm a young guy.

2333
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 1: All this money is coming.

2334
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 8: That got the big office, the big staff man sure,

2335
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 8: mad dudes, hell mad things. Of course, yeah, of course.

2336
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to get the job with Norm because

2337
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 1: of my office. Not man dudes, no job, not bad

2338
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 1: things walking I had. I had to use these angels.

2339
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 1: You know that music. It was like the best business

2340
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 1: card in the world. I give him that. He was Marke.

2341
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: He was on marketing anyway, so lo shore.

2342
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,400
Speaker 8: When I got into the big space, start doing the

2343
01:52:18,439 --> 01:52:21,280
Speaker 8: big jobs, right then that's when it all changed.

2344
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 1: But we're like like this is the best actor here

2345
01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 1: that yeah, but but he's dark skin. What do you mean?

2346
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:34,680
Speaker 8: No, No, he's dark skin. So we're talking about you know,

2347
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 8: we need more like commercial skin.

2348
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:38,160
Speaker 5: Is that.

2349
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: Was that?

2350
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: You know?

2351
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 1: No, like like him, you know, like not us like

2352
01:52:48,680 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: like there, like listen you like my brother Sandy, you

2353
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean that you my mother's side, my

2354
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: mother was like this you you the me exactly exactly, No, no,

2355
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 1: you know exactly, show im talk about the black guy.

2356
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 1: You're the black guy. There wasn't the black guy. He

2357
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: lost me.

2358
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 5: Came out the.

2359
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: Casting casting you a cat guy casting. I was telling

2360
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:39,400
Speaker 1: the morning wanted you to be the lead guy. So

2361
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: the like they thought he wasn't Latino for so play

2362
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 1: like that.

2363
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,800
Speaker 8: This is exactly right, you know, and I'll tell another

2364
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 8: side story, so you move and Belly of course, all right, so.

2365
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: Our whole life. So I got hired a cast Belly,

2366
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I read the script. I like, yeah, Williams,

2367
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 1: I was so excited to make a Queens.

2368
01:53:56,920 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 12: I was there for thirty years, right like, yeah, guys

2369
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 12: at that time, you there for like six seven years

2370
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:07,760
Speaker 12: another years today okay, sorry Jesse seven and a half years.

2371
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 1: He's easy.

2372
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:23,600
Speaker 13: He who came, Yeah I did that right, he just

2373
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 13: dated and games like, yeah, I was trying to be cool.

2374
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,760
Speaker 1: He said, don't be cool. You deserve your props. You

2375
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: deserve your props and all this guy, my dad, this

2376
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 1: is incredible. This is that's right, no bt, just for

2377
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: my name, bro, this happened. I swear you. When I

2378
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: looked at it, I sure it is gonna be wrong. Yeah,

2379
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 1: I don't mean I play my name wrong.

2380
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I'm gonna be honest. You know what

2381
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: your name is? Like, your name is like Wistchester Sauce,

2382
01:54:53,720 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 2: Like don't one care, no one, no one knows how

2383
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 2: the right Winchester Sauce, Like send somebody to go slow,

2384
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 2: like winch Saw. You don't want to say it straight up, Like,

2385
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 2: how's about your name?

2386
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I was like, that's like Winchester saw this shout with

2387
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:22,720
Speaker 1: the Paul Paul drink just flower, shout out to the Flowers.

2388
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,480
Speaker 8: Movie credits that come up, movie credits. My name is wrong,

2389
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 8: raising victimage peace South.

2390
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:30,000
Speaker 5: I see?

2391
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: Is that a Dominican names? You know what the Milligans

2392
01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: do is like they try to give their kids.

2393
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 6: American name, Yeah, so they can fit in. Like that's

2394
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 6: that's like, you know, that's a that's a name. It's

2395
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 6: a drink American. Un listens, Jesse Shandy Leslie. That's our

2396
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:49,120
Speaker 6: whole family.

2397
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Grants right here. Apparently it was Americans. We can fit in.

2398
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:56,400
Speaker 5: They work there.

2399
01:55:56,480 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 8: You were.

2400
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,320
Speaker 1: The mother. Let me for the other ship. The name

2401
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 1: you the belly, the belly, the name ship.

2402
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,760
Speaker 5: The main name was the name stuff.

2403
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: Oh there has to be your name.

2404
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 5: No, I say, oh the names to Rick and.

2405
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:15,200
Speaker 1: You got them live.

2406
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 5: The guys. I'm sorry Jesse again, yea that the gangster

2407
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 5: shiped my brother. He was like, yo, b you got

2408
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 5: him active out of character yo, Jesse said, say he

2409
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 5: does the older brother ship.

2410
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 1: He's like, Ya'm the real talking. You don't do that.

2411
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 14: He was like, no brother out here, Kurry, he's a

2412
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 14: low bro. Yeah you shut him, brother. I'm doing until.

2413
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 14: It's a just story about reason. It's thirty four years.

2414
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 14: But like I said, we grew up the bulls.

2415
01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 8: We were never blocking up whoever Spanish enough. I was

2416
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 8: a white screw, wasn't white enough.

2417
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Were owned.

2418
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 8: The guys just never accepted. I'm saying a whole life

2419
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 8: never accepted. So I was always fighting so Belly. They

2420
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 8: hired me to do Belly. I was so excited or whatever. Right,

2421
01:57:27,320 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 8: So these are.

2422
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 5: People I've been working for for years. Okay, but yeah,

2423
01:57:30,160 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 5: they just pauses. Sometimes it's like it's assistant just ro

2424
01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 5: just ain't.

2425
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:39,800
Speaker 1: Involved, Williams. Jesse's not involved. It was just me telling

2426
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: me this ship it's different. That was just me, not Jesse.

2427
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 5: Good.

2428
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 1: He's repping for the but hey, I thought he was looking.

2429
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Actually ship, you should it's just my shoes. I feel

2430
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:52,120
Speaker 1: like you're doing it because you want me to take

2431
01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 1: a cheesecake to Brooklyn. We out here with together, you

2432
01:57:58,120 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean? We got lord.

2433
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 3: It is brother, just the right way. Turned out like Diddy,

2434
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:10,920
Speaker 3: and he tried to kill me on here.

2435
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: Brother. I love him, But everything I've done is because

2436
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 1: of this motherfucker, because I goddamn.

2437
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I didn't want to I

2438
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 5: want to want to be at that.

2439
01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: He didn't let me.

2440
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 5: So I begin a director.

2441
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: Boom he said, I stopped. I stopped his acting dreams.

2442
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm just that was fire. You want to fit this belly?

2443
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: I love you.

2444
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 8: I'm just saying this Anottle story about the struggle about

2445
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,440
Speaker 8: you're saying. Latinos just would never fucking accept it. So

2446
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,360
Speaker 8: I get hired to do Belly. The cast cast Belly,

2447
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 8: the people producing it. I've done their jobs for fifteen years.

2448
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:02,480
Speaker 8: I'm there back to so Plain. I'm their black guy. Okay,

2449
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 8: so I do all that black ship.

2450
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: Not much they do. They're a big white company.

2451
01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:09,680
Speaker 8: But the two three black things they called me right Hey,

2452
01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 8: you listen, you know Robbie Reed just quit on this movie.

2453
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 5: And that's what she showed me.

2454
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 1: The facts. You don't know what do want me to do?

2455
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:23,919
Speaker 1: I would walk around Paramount get one, might try Paramount.

2456
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2457
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 8: We're doing the own ship right now. Anyway, we're doing

2458
01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 8: the own show now. We're creating a new platform right now.

2459
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,880
Speaker 8: But anyway, so they were like, yo, can you come on?

2460
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,920
Speaker 8: Boy and dudes what we call belly. They send me

2461
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 8: the script whatever. They sent me the budget. It was

2462
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 8: fifty bands. I'm like, okay, yeah, fifty mans.

2463
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 5: I was nice.

2464
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't show him like this script. I read the script,

2465
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 1: reading the script. I read the script the script. He

2466
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 1: still thinks I don't read scripts anyway. So I read

2467
01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:56,080
Speaker 1: the script. I I was feeling it to make.

2468
01:59:56,000 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 5: The queensls according to the bands, Yo, I say, what

2469
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 5: made a reading for it?

2470
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 8: Okay, good squid, that's the fact. Listen, two thousand dollars.

2471
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 8: I ain't reading no script. Things like this fun out

2472
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:11,720
Speaker 8: of here, That's what I'm saying.

2473
02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:12,520
Speaker 1: I even reading that.

2474
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,640
Speaker 8: It's like it was a joke today with these cats

2475
02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 8: talking about I won't say their names.

2476
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:18,680
Speaker 1: They were like, they called me from my movie, and

2477
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:20,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you can't afford me, and you know

2478
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,040
Speaker 1: who they are. But anyway, so let me story be short.

2479
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:24,360
Speaker 1: So I took the job.

2480
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 8: I was excited, so I started preparing or whatever. Then

2481
02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:29,880
Speaker 8: they called me two days later. It's like listen man

2482
02:00:29,960 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 8: was shard man, but please don't don't force us with

2483
02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:34,960
Speaker 8: a cancelation fee, because you know.

2484
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 1: We got you. We hold you down.

2485
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 8: But then I have to release you from this project.

2486
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 8: They said from the start, we have to release you

2487
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 8: from this project.

2488
02:00:43,720 --> 02:00:46,040
Speaker 1: So if you get hired, you start working, and they

2489
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 1: fire you, you gotta.

2490
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 8: You get a cancelation fee. So they're like, man, that's

2491
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. That's what I said told them. I

2492
02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 8: would have told him I'm not unreleasable.

2493
02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:55,600
Speaker 1: That's what I told him.

2494
02:00:56,880 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 14: Anybody say that the fuck he talks about your you're responsible.

2495
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:10,840
Speaker 1: They would see that He's just say I'm unreleasing.

2496
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 5: For many they.

2497
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 8: Fed me for many years. I loved them to this day.

2498
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 8: I still work with them. But anyway, they were like,

2499
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 8: please don't was a cancelation fee.

2500
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 1: He's a good guy, my brother, you see him.

2501
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:22,160
Speaker 5: The people down.

2502
02:01:22,520 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't shipting on them because.

2503
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 5: Of me, what are you talking about that? You you

2504
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,400
Speaker 5: want to shipping in your people? You know, I mean

2505
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 5: it's real talk. I says, Yo, you love me, but

2506
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 5: you just was holding it down for your people. I

2507
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 5: was showing you love.

2508
02:01:37,840 --> 02:01:39,360
Speaker 1: Nobody's even saying that story.

2509
02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 5: What do you know that in the story.

2510
02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is got released.

2511
02:01:44,720 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 8: It told me not to give him a cancelation fee,

2512
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,520
Speaker 8: and then I was like, why are you releasing me for?

2513
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 8: They were like because when they told the director who

2514
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:57,040
Speaker 8: is casting a movie, he was like, Torrero, where is

2515
02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:57,600
Speaker 8: he from?

2516
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:00,840
Speaker 5: And they were like, he's Latino? And then he was

2517
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,360
Speaker 5: like Latino. We need a fucking black casting director.

2518
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 8: The fucker Latino know about fucking Jamaica queens, like he

2519
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 8: lives there, he's been there for there for twenty years.

2520
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 8: We thought he'd be a great choice. Yo, yo, I

2521
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:17,720
Speaker 8: need a black casting director. Wow, fuck that ship.

2522
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And then is that a

2523
02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:22,280
Speaker 1: white dude saying that too? No, this is Hype Williams

2524
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:22,880
Speaker 1: telling that.

2525
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, there's a facts like like Hype we

2526
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,280
Speaker 8: just met last year I think or two years ago.

2527
02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 1: We hit it off.

2528
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 8: But anyway, so long story short, that's a tough one

2529
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 8: because I like hype. I don't I love hype. I'm

2530
02:02:35,160 --> 02:02:37,320
Speaker 8: a big hype fan. So long, soy short.

2531
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:40,720
Speaker 1: They they released me, They released me.

2532
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,800
Speaker 8: Then they called me back the next day, Hey, do

2533
02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 8: you have any recommendations, like for what to cast the movie?

2534
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:47,720
Speaker 1: You're like, what do you mean?

2535
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 5: He was like, you're our black guy.

2536
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: There's a white company. They're like, we don't know how

2537
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: many people that do black stuff. So I was like,

2538
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 1: you know what, the fact they talk like that is crazy.

2539
02:02:57,000 --> 02:02:57,839
Speaker 1: These are my friends.

2540
02:02:58,520 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 5: I worked them.

2541
02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: I worked the fact that they talking in those terms.

2542
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:05,640
Speaker 1: Do you recommend Wisdom Sinclair? So she gets to cast

2543
02:03:05,680 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: the credit she's doing the hide Us and Juice.

2544
02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 8: So I said, you know what, I know somebody and

2545
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 8: I and I wis Wisdom gets the casting credit of Belly.

2546
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah.

2547
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 8: So I'm just saying, but like I can tell you

2548
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 8: eight hundred stories, eight hundred stories of like being Latino

2549
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 8: just Saint the waves, you know what I'm saying, like saying,

2550
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:26,840
Speaker 8: when the whole black lives matters, like we were the

2551
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:30,320
Speaker 8: Kings in Atlanta and say, dude, all the cheesy I did.

2552
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 8: I did trap and Dye. Then he did the many

2553
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 8: fresh joint. Then I did, uh, the what did I do?

2554
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 5: Though? The there's a big one. I did the big

2555
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:48,000
Speaker 5: one that he did. Stop.

2556
02:03:48,920 --> 02:03:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm making a point. I got you.

2557
02:03:52,160 --> 02:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm making a point. Was j chs.

2558
02:03:54,200 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 5: Baby the boy don't tell them her messages. She said, Yo,

2559
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 5: listen the show fucking a line with the ship that

2560
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 5: we do.

2561
02:04:08,200 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 8: Okay, I don't know what's happening show shot shout out.

2562
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:15,200
Speaker 1: Just didn't want the brothers fighting. Let me let me

2563
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 1: a woman this. I gotta fix this. I gotta fix that.

2564
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:19,200
Speaker 1: We're good with Chance.

2565
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:23,800
Speaker 5: Let me tell you, let me tell you you're going

2566
02:04:23,840 --> 02:04:24,240
Speaker 5: what do you do?

2567
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:26,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you.

2568
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 5: Let me tell you you don't have a top level

2569
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 5: show like this. You don't have control of the edit.

2570
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 5: This motherfuck got seven cameras stopped you Like, yall, we're

2571
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:49,680
Speaker 5: fucking around. Yeah, but who's sucking drink chan Chance ship

2572
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:52,240
Speaker 5: you saw says like showing the stories.

2573
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 1: Don't want to sit through ship.

2574
02:04:56,560 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 5: Okay, Shot, I got.

2575
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 1: I got just I'm just wrapping up, I said, Jeezy,

2576
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm wanting just finish it. Everyone was.

2577
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 5: I trying to tell you what the kid look get to,

2578
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:10,240
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't.

2579
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm no, just my brothers and ain't get touchy like

2580
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm just shouldn't tech you give me the rules before

2581
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:20,680
Speaker 1: the rules. Yeah, yeah, we're together.

2582
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're together.

2583
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:23,680
Speaker 1: I was just saying. I was just saying, there's a

2584
02:05:23,720 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: new show family matters. Like I tried to do a podcast.

2585
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 1: He was hating on me. You don't want to do it.

2586
02:05:34,040 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 7: We should do it here, man, I'm out here every day.

2587
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 7: I told her, But I gotta.

2588
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 1: Finish this statement. I mentioned G's name. We love Gez.

2589
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying, like the point was, we were

2590
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 1: in Atlanta doing a lot of stuff. T I man.

2591
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 1: Then a c l out there. You know we're out

2592
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 1: there early early the movie.

2593
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I cast statue my title, get additional castie, but

2594
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 8: I can't.

2595
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,640
Speaker 1: What's here's the story. Here's a catting story. Here's a

2596
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:06,000
Speaker 1: cat story. So killer Mike right?

2597
02:06:06,480 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 3: Uh?

2598
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 8: Emanuel Panico used to be a video commissioner at Atlantic Records.

2599
02:06:11,320 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, she hit me up.

2600
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 8: I was like, yo, you that's why I directed the video.

2601
02:06:13,640 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 8: He said, Yo, you should direct this guy killing Mike's video.

2602
02:06:17,240 --> 02:06:19,400
Speaker 8: Whatever And if she mentioned the number was and I

2603
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 8: was just like at that time, I was like you

2604
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 8: know that don't make sense for me right now? She said, Yo,

2605
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 8: this guy's the godfather, right should you know? I'm telling

2606
02:06:27,480 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 8: you should funk with him? And I was really do

2607
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,520
Speaker 8: a rap. I was making the transition to when he

2608
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 8: was on his mixtape run. It was the atl whatever

2609
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 8: that year was like two thousand and five, and think

2610
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 8: something like.

2611
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:41,160
Speaker 4: That, because this is when he came out with a Deers.

2612
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 4: He was on the record label and then he had

2613
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 4: the crazy mixtape Run.

2614
02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:45,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't remember.

2615
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 8: But so anyway, so she's like, yo, look, trust me,

2616
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 8: you should meet this guy and you should do his video.

2617
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 1: So I meet with him or whatever. He takes me

2618
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: around in Atlanta.

2619
02:06:54,800 --> 02:06:57,080
Speaker 8: I don't know who he was, but this guy where

2620
02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 8: he went, they rolled the red carpet out right, I'm like,

2621
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:00,880
Speaker 8: who the fuck is this guy?

2622
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 1: He got mad jewelry. It's just me and him, yeah something, Hey,

2623
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 1: you're not scared they might take your change?

2624
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,280
Speaker 5: And shit, I don't.

2625
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 8: Remember, because if I tell the end of the story,

2626
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:11,720
Speaker 8: you understand why.

2627
02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 5: But so we go.

2628
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: We get every club.

2629
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 8: Every club was like the Master's here, red carpet love

2630
02:07:17,720 --> 02:07:19,120
Speaker 8: and I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?

2631
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 7: Then we at five in the morning.

2632
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 8: We go to this place called body Tap, right, and

2633
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 8: we sit down with these pools uh floid Atlanta, Atlanta.

2634
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:29,080
Speaker 1: It's called Body Tap.

2635
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:31,800
Speaker 8: And we walk in there and then we were these

2636
02:07:31,880 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 8: grool dudes and somebody gives me a stack of money

2637
02:07:34,440 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 8: and they're like.

2638
02:07:35,120 --> 02:07:37,360
Speaker 15: Just throw it in the air, and I was like, why,

2639
02:07:40,520 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 15: I don't want to do that. A lot of money

2640
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,600
Speaker 15: it's doing the air. So I'm like, okay, I'm so upset.

2641
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 15: There was a strip club those.

2642
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 1: A little body Tap.

2643
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 8: Now everybody knows the body Tap, so you know, I'm

2644
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 8: upset throwing in the air whatever. There's money everywhere. I

2645
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 8: went to the bathroom, I fell because I trimped on money.

2646
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 8: It was insane. It was insane. What the fuck is

2647
02:08:05,240 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 8: that ship? He was insane. That was like, hey, guys,

2648
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 8: just give me some of it. There's just so much money.

2649
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 8: I was just I couldn't stand it anyway. So so

2650
02:08:13,920 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 8: then when we leave, asked Killer Mike, I'm like, yo,

2651
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:18,280
Speaker 8: who is that good?

2652
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:22,840
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, that was Big Boy, like from Outcast.

2653
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:25,920
Speaker 1: He's like yeah. I was like, oh ship.

2654
02:08:26,160 --> 02:08:28,880
Speaker 5: They passed on him for at L because they thought

2655
02:08:28,880 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 5: he was like the happy rapper guy.

2656
02:08:30,840 --> 02:08:32,600
Speaker 1: So then he dropped me off at the Georgia.

2657
02:08:32,760 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 8: Tell ain't tell the movie, so let me tell you

2658
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:38,600
Speaker 8: the story. Guy.

2659
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:42,640
Speaker 1: He was no, he was nobody. He got who said

2660
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 1: for the drug dealer? Dude, okay, so.

2661
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 8: Let me finish the story. You know, tell me this

2662
02:08:49,480 --> 02:08:51,200
Speaker 8: was the icing on the cake. Thank you for sting

2663
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 8: the story anyway. So so so he dropped me off

2664
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 8: and tell me I gotta go so long the story. Okay,

2665
02:08:58,480 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 8: sorry guys.

2666
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:02,280
Speaker 1: So long story. Sure the table.

2667
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:07,360
Speaker 8: He drops me in the george ter cugarettes, spoken sing

2668
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:08,120
Speaker 8: as I passed out.

2669
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 1: It's seventy a m. Somebody wakes me up, as Chris Robbinson.

2670
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:14,480
Speaker 8: He's like, you, what's going on? I was like, I

2671
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:18,080
Speaker 8: got to the drug jailer. It's it's it's fucking big boy.

2672
02:09:18,120 --> 02:09:19,760
Speaker 8: It was you know, it's a gangster.

2673
02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:23,040
Speaker 1: Do I like I was yesterday? It's gangster? Trust me,

2674
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 1: I said at the meeting big boys, and.

2675
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 2: Probably should have asked you this earlier, but I'm gonna

2676
02:09:33,520 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 2: ask you it to you now.

2677
02:09:36,360 --> 02:09:37,280
Speaker 1: That was the perfect time.

2678
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,720
Speaker 2: You're known of this hip hop director. But you get

2679
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:45,280
Speaker 2: an opportunity to work with Roberts and Narrow right, and

2680
02:09:45,560 --> 02:09:48,080
Speaker 2: I even read somewhere that he even told you to

2681
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 2: call him Bob on the set. You got so personal?

2682
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:53,400
Speaker 2: How was that, like, you know, on working with a

2683
02:09:55,400 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 2: prestigious acted like that coming from you know, hip hop

2684
02:09:58,200 --> 02:10:00,720
Speaker 2: where people you know, No, you usually get a chance

2685
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:03,360
Speaker 2: to be in the same let a known director.

2686
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 5: I think what's interesting is that m at some moment,

2687
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:12,960
Speaker 5: like you don't expect us to be on a certain

2688
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:15,800
Speaker 5: level on the filmmaking game. They don't expect us to

2689
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:20,600
Speaker 5: be like on that high level for us to have

2690
02:10:20,840 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 5: like a guy like that, like how many Dominicans shot

2691
02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:32,160
Speaker 5: Robert de Niro? Probably any? And you know, I'm not

2692
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:34,280
Speaker 5: trying to make it up, and you're trying to be honest.

2693
02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:36,760
Speaker 1: Like you No, you don't get that real talk. Now

2694
02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:40,200
Speaker 1: you get that real talk. They didn't take directions? Do

2695
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 1: you take direction from you will? Okay, let me say,

2696
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:45,640
Speaker 1: tell him about the meeting, Tell him about the meeting,

2697
02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 1: about the consolection that that's a good way.

2698
02:10:51,760 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 5: Outside to whatever the direction you were going. I'm sorry,

2699
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:57,240
Speaker 5: I go back to that direction. I don't believe you

2700
02:10:57,320 --> 02:11:03,320
Speaker 5: were fucking the ship. Yeah, this is the best person

2701
02:11:03,400 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 5: in my life.

2702
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:04,120
Speaker 1: Man.

2703
02:11:10,920 --> 02:11:13,920
Speaker 5: Know what it's like, you know, we out here for like,

2704
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 5: if you want to judge your life and who is

2705
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 5: there the entire time, there's people that are in sections

2706
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,840
Speaker 5: that they're fucking were there at the sections where your

2707
02:11:22,920 --> 02:11:26,200
Speaker 5: life was needed that person, so you can't deny them

2708
02:11:26,240 --> 02:11:28,520
Speaker 5: as being the fucking guy that rolled you to the

2709
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:29,960
Speaker 5: fucking pain, right.

2710
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 1: But.

2711
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:36,160
Speaker 8: There's probably when you look at that section, different sections

2712
02:11:36,200 --> 02:11:38,800
Speaker 8: of people that are engulfed in your life. And maybe,

2713
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,840
Speaker 8: if you're lucky, you have one person, one person that

2714
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 8: maybe took the whole journey, two three people, and this motherfucker.

2715
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:56,520
Speaker 1: Took the journey. How about robbing the narrow Doome journey?

2716
02:11:59,200 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 1: How's that? Working?

2717
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:07,120
Speaker 5: This ship was crazy because it was you want I

2718
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:10,240
Speaker 5: don't know, bro, I think you're good. I need the

2719
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,280
Speaker 5: drinks at least having something.

2720
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:21,720
Speaker 1: Said, we don't give no more dreams. I heard that

2721
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 1: champ a drink can.

2722
02:12:29,880 --> 02:12:35,280
Speaker 2: Cancel, kid, but have an opportunity to even be in

2723
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 2: the same room with Robert and he's the director himself.

2724
02:12:37,480 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 1: So that was that intimidating.

2725
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 5: It's tough, you know, I think it's a it's a

2726
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:47,440
Speaker 5: different situation. It's imagine I was like someone that wasn't

2727
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:51,280
Speaker 5: Latina all right, Sometimes you should up in front.

2728
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 1: Of Robert de Niro.

2729
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,000
Speaker 5: If people judge you because of the way that you look,

2730
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 5: the way that you dress, the way that who you are,

2731
02:12:56,920 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 5: you know, they think that that who you are and

2732
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:02,440
Speaker 5: put them in the same level on the film level

2733
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 5: and the conversations about film.

2734
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:07,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you study film. You know, fucking broke.

2735
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,040
Speaker 5: Down film, you cut the ship when you were shooting

2736
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:11,480
Speaker 5: your short film. It doesn't matter anything you did. But

2737
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:13,720
Speaker 5: you just Latino and they look at you and they say,

2738
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 5: you know, fuck this motherfucker. You don't know shit about film.

2739
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 5: When I was there cutting this motherfucking film, doing this

2740
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 5: shit that I needed to do. But they see you

2741
02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:24,760
Speaker 5: sometimes and they fucking judge you for that, you know

2742
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And they don't show us the love.

2743
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,840
Speaker 5: And they're like, yo, what are you gonna do. We're

2744
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:30,600
Speaker 5: gonna do this, we can do that, We're gonna do

2745
02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:32,720
Speaker 5: all these different kinds of things. But they don't do anything,

2746
02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:33,200
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

2747
02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 1: And Robert dear felt that way.

2748
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:41,600
Speaker 5: No, So when sometimes they make you feel a certain way.

2749
02:13:41,840 --> 02:13:44,520
Speaker 5: And Robert de Niro, even though they offered him a deal,

2750
02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:47,840
Speaker 5: they were like, unless he says yes, he has to

2751
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:52,280
Speaker 5: meet the director and they call me and they you know, no,

2752
02:13:52,600 --> 02:13:56,240
Speaker 5: come on, man, It's like, I'm not a dude who

2753
02:13:56,440 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 5: likes just like losing an imagine a world like Jesse

2754
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:02,720
Speaker 5: Churl's dope, Like I know I'm ill. So while I'm here,

2755
02:14:02,760 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 5: it's dring Chines. Maybe it's the number one show. I

2756
02:14:08,840 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 5: know why I'm fucking here because it's string Chinese.

2757
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,280
Speaker 2: But you didn't want to wear a suit because you

2758
02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:14,880
Speaker 2: didn't want him to think you a corporate when you

2759
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:15,640
Speaker 2: was being Yes.

2760
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:18,120
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, it's Robert de Niroal, I never

2761
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:21,120
Speaker 5: never in my journey, in my life that I think

2762
02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:23,960
Speaker 5: by you had me Robert de Niro moment killing it

2763
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 5: and that was out there like like suffering on Big

2764
02:14:27,280 --> 02:14:31,360
Speaker 5: Ship the game like we did ship.

2765
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:41,400
Speaker 1: That was dope. I walked you to that meeting. No.

2766
02:14:41,640 --> 02:14:42,840
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is.

2767
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:45,440
Speaker 5: Like, let's say I was a white American person or

2768
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:49,200
Speaker 5: white I wouldn't worry about nothing but meeting Robert de Niro.

2769
02:14:50,040 --> 02:14:52,000
Speaker 5: But when you're like Tina, you gotta worry about the

2770
02:14:52,040 --> 02:14:53,960
Speaker 5: way you look, the way you dress, the way you

2771
02:14:54,440 --> 02:14:56,120
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, because people judge you on that,

2772
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:58,200
Speaker 5: like and then they just don't give you the respect.

2773
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:00,240
Speaker 5: So I told my brother, I said, what am I

2774
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 5: supposed to do here? I caught you, you know, I

2775
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:10,240
Speaker 5: mean like I'm doing this shit for real, Like we

2776
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:11,240
Speaker 5: affect this ship.

2777
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 1: So I told him, I say, you know, but you're

2778
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:22,560
Speaker 1: like holy ship. Get to the point into the point.

2779
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:28,400
Speaker 1: We lost him? He lost it, I tell him here

2780
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:30,640
Speaker 1: so anyway, so and you can pick it up what

2781
02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:32,680
Speaker 1: you want to, right, So so you know.

2782
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:33,200
Speaker 5: Where I was here.

2783
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:38,200
Speaker 8: So I try to come with him and like to director, no, brother,

2784
02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 8: not like that woman that was with him.

2785
02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:45,760
Speaker 1: You gotta fall back. It's one on one, okay, But

2786
02:15:45,880 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 1: I got a spot walk or watch his watch.

2787
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:51,480
Speaker 8: I was excited anyway, just went in there and to

2788
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:56,040
Speaker 8: tell him how Robert de Niro came at you with

2789
02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 8: the optionals.

2790
02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:01,640
Speaker 5: No what it was interesting because it's like all of

2791
02:16:01,680 --> 02:16:03,640
Speaker 5: a sudden, you come into a position like that, and

2792
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 5: you know, you got to sit with someone that he

2793
02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:09,960
Speaker 5: might see the world different. So you started talking to

2794
02:16:10,040 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 5: him about different things. And the one interesting about Roberts

2795
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:17,640
Speaker 5: and all is that because most of his marriages, the wives.

2796
02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:21,080
Speaker 1: Have been African American kids is black too, right.

2797
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:24,879
Speaker 5: So I think he understands that he knows what's.

2798
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:34,480
Speaker 1: Uping with a chocolate box. For a long time, I said, what.

2799
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:36,760
Speaker 5: Was that?

2800
02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:39,280
Speaker 1: Like a dream come true? Like that dream come true?

2801
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you there was one point.

2802
02:16:46,360 --> 02:16:49,840
Speaker 5: It was a different actor and the way that business works.

2803
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:52,320
Speaker 5: Sometimes it doesn't work like us, like we love something

2804
02:16:52,840 --> 02:16:55,400
Speaker 5: and we just love it, and then the money tried

2805
02:16:55,480 --> 02:16:56,760
Speaker 5: to like make us think different.

2806
02:16:58,200 --> 02:17:00,840
Speaker 1: But with him, it was something different because it was

2807
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:03,640
Speaker 1: like we had the money. No, I liked him.

2808
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:04,760
Speaker 5: He was part of the money.

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02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:09,360
Speaker 1: He had the money. He had the money already. He

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Speaker 1: didn't need the money for it, he didn't need the role.

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02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:12,959
Speaker 1: So he's just doing this out of love.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. But sometimes for us, just like

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02:17:15,360 --> 02:17:17,840
Speaker 5: we want the priject that makes sense, and sometimes it

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02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:18,560
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: It just like about to break. Oh yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: it now.

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Speaker 8: You know this. It's just he said, even though he's

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02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:30,680
Speaker 8: feeling nice, he's still corporate and safe. And you don't

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02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:31,960
Speaker 8: want to shet sartain information.

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Speaker 1: It's a big movement.

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Speaker 5: See what I'm saying, and say, Bobby, here's it.

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Speaker 1: Bobby, you know what I'm saying. They might hear it,

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02:17:44,120 --> 02:17:46,160
Speaker 1: and you know, he's cool. I'm not saying anything.

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02:17:46,240 --> 02:17:47,320
Speaker 5: You know, they know what it is.

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02:17:47,600 --> 02:17:51,240
Speaker 1: So what what what's next? Because we see DNA right

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02:17:51,600 --> 02:17:56,800
Speaker 1: and and my b y'all doctor narrow and five bits

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02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:00,320
Speaker 1: post of y'all. So that's that's We just wrapped yes today.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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02:18:01,080 --> 02:18:03,720
Speaker 5: So it's called Spanish Fly.

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02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:09,879
Speaker 1: That was like Bins Drinks. That's what it was back

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02:18:09,920 --> 02:18:16,520
Speaker 1: in the day. Was back in the days. That was

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02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:23,280
Speaker 1: the original. It's called the Pill Cosy. It's a comedy

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02:18:23,440 --> 02:18:29,959
Speaker 1: that Dundee Netto wrote. He did, he rode in, he produced.

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02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:31,840
Speaker 8: He put the money off him and his nephew and

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02:18:32,680 --> 02:18:36,440
Speaker 8: we just wrapped yesterday. It's it's like a it's like

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02:18:36,520 --> 02:18:39,400
Speaker 8: a Friday teaching chunk, you know what I'm saying.

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02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:41,560
Speaker 1: So we just finished that and I said, it was

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02:18:41,720 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 1: me jokes bly something, jokes man, but he was. He

2839
02:18:46,760 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 1: was the main horse on that. He was he was

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02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:55,400
Speaker 1: like the ghost director man jokes just no, that's homie.

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02:18:55,760 --> 02:18:58,400
Speaker 8: But but like I said, you know, this could be

2842
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:01,800
Speaker 8: the first thing we see for the first time. I said,

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02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:07,080
Speaker 8: it's a Dominican and a porter.

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02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:10,840
Speaker 1: And a Cuban a Cuban and yeah, Cuban Cuban. Bet

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02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:13,879
Speaker 1: you a whole bunch of.

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02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:16,800
Speaker 8: Diversity in it, Like it's pretty funny, Like we think

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02:19:16,879 --> 02:19:18,920
Speaker 8: we might do something with this, and that might be

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02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:20,680
Speaker 8: the first time you see the culture.

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02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:24,279
Speaker 5: Don he really enforces the culture.

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02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:29,160
Speaker 1: He deserves his process for sure. Before we get ub

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Speaker 1: out of here, I got a movie for y'all that

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02:19:30,480 --> 02:19:32,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna do together. We're gonna do that, We're gonna

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02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: do together. Guess what it's called? Handballs? What's that? The

2854
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:45,600
Speaker 1: movie about handball? Handballs? Handballs?

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02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:50,959
Speaker 2: The title gets you off top of it, but it's

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02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 2: about a god named Gotam Queens.

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02:19:53,480 --> 02:19:54,359
Speaker 1: He plays handball.

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02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:57,640
Speaker 2: He becomes the ills handball guard in the world, and

2859
02:19:57,800 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 2: he goes to Turks and Caicos.

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Speaker 1: He it's you. I'm the handball guy, I know, said

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Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, yeah, I'm from Coliseum. I'm fro to

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02:20:17,200 --> 02:20:18,600
Speaker 1: Coliseum and you know what I mean.

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02:20:18,680 --> 02:20:21,320
Speaker 2: And then he goes away, and then there's these guys,

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02:20:21,520 --> 02:20:24,480
Speaker 2: the LA guys come in because you know, because you

2865
02:20:24,520 --> 02:20:26,720
Speaker 2: know New York, we have our certain style of handball.

2866
02:20:26,920 --> 02:20:28,840
Speaker 2: Then you then Miami has a certain style of handball

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02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:31,840
Speaker 2: where they play on racket courts and tennis ball of course.

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02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:33,680
Speaker 2: Then they have the l A style where they played

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02:20:33,680 --> 02:20:35,840
Speaker 2: on a totally different thing. But I want to migrated.

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Speaker 2: Noel g will play the people in l A how

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Speaker 2: they do it, and then they give me back. Coming

2872
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Speaker 2: from church and K goes, I have to beard on

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Speaker 2: like about hundred pounds and then I get in the gym,

2874
02:20:48,280 --> 02:20:51,240
Speaker 2: I start jogging and then I come back to win

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Speaker 2: my hands back.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's cool. Hands you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: O God.

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02:21:05,320 --> 02:21:08,960
Speaker 1: Going besides that? Because did we talk about the documentary

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Speaker 1: that I'm in for y'all? Oh the hems temper. That's right,

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Speaker 1: you ain't talking about that? Yeah? Where was it at Amazon?

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Speaker 8: Prime? Yeah? Okay Prime here I'm gonna say, but thank

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Speaker 8: you for give me?

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Speaker 5: That so fun?

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02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:27,039
Speaker 1: It was so fun. You know, we got to roll

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Speaker 1: the stones.

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Speaker 5: It was right.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, hell no, welcome. I'm gonna started walking me

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02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:38,960
Speaker 1: a little one. He gave me one. Everybody was like photos.

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Speaker 5: Then can I go from my brother life fifteen hundred dollars,

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Speaker 5: you can have mine.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have anything else coming out you want

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Speaker 1: to promote? Yeah, So for me, active rehad the future.

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