Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with
Speaker 1: Reason Choice Media. Welcome home, y'all, this is episode one
Speaker 1: twenty four of Native Lampard, where we give you I
Speaker 1: breakdown on all things political, with a little bit of
Speaker 1: culture sprinkled in there every now and again. I'm your
Speaker 1: host today, Andrew Gillum, and of course I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my amazing co host, Angela Ryan Bacari Sellers. But then
Speaker 1: there is the truly truly incredible, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing.
Speaker 2: They've already introduced me one time, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Second, second only to not Bacari. We are joined today
Speaker 1: by an extraordinary broadcast journalist, co hosts of Flagrant and
Speaker 1: Funny with our other sister friend, Jamil Hill, and the
Speaker 1: host of her own Very Naked.
Speaker 3: With Yeah, very naked, now always it very It's not
Speaker 3: very naked.
Speaker 4: You said very I.
Speaker 1: Said very own with a very own with Carrie Champion.
Speaker 1: Y'all please help us welcome Carrie carry Champion, the amazing,
Speaker 1: the incredible, the indefeakable co host for today.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 5: Carrie?
Speaker 6: First of all those words, I need you to explain
Speaker 6: them all to me. You're so small.
Speaker 1: Indefatigable is a.
Speaker 4: Word you did not say. Indefatigable you say that, No,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: With that one, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Oh many, Welcome Carrie, Welcome, welcome, welcome home.
Speaker 4: Thank you, also a machete. We didn't say that part.
Speaker 6: We saved that for me, he said, Hi, friend, thank
Speaker 6: you so much for having me on. I appreciate y'all
Speaker 6: so much. I know you're busy folks. Thanks for squeezing
Speaker 6: me in here.
Speaker 1: Oh please, thank you for saying yes. All right, So
Speaker 1: before we get in today's show, and we got a
Speaker 1: lot of topics that we got to cover with you
Speaker 1: all because we want to make sure that none of you,
Speaker 1: our listeners, at least are caught unawares about what's happening
Speaker 1: not only here in the country but around the world.
Speaker 1: But before we get going, I just want to make
Speaker 1: a personal, personal, personal plea invitation to all of our
Speaker 1: listeners to please join me this upcoming Monday, that'll be
Speaker 1: March thirtieth, for a very very special town hall meeting
Speaker 1: with mayors and leaders from across the country, people who
Speaker 1: we know and respect and love, have love for as
Speaker 1: we talk about some of the challenges that continue to
Speaker 1: rain down from this federal administration as they try to
Speaker 1: reign power over everybody and everything and every institution. How
Speaker 1: it is that cities, localities are fighting back. What we
Speaker 1: are doing on the front lines those your local leaders
Speaker 1: to make sure that democracy still stands at the end
Speaker 1: of the four years. Okay, So that'll be on Monday,
Speaker 1: March thirtieth. Begins streaming at two pm Eastern Standard time,
Speaker 1: and of course if you miss us live at two
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Standard you can catch us on the podcast feed.
Speaker 1: We'll make sure it gets right up for your listening pleasure. Now, y'all,
Speaker 1: we are headed into for your situational awareness. I want
Speaker 1: to kick off our conversation or at least our topics
Speaker 1: for our situational awareness with the fact that all of
Speaker 1: us have heard Donald Trump talking lately about the Save
Speaker 1: Act is really Save Donald Trump from Accountability Act. But
Speaker 1: but but he is putting all of the pressure on
Speaker 1: the Congress to pass no other legislation because he refuses
Speaker 1: to sign any until his voter suppression bill, the Save Act,
Speaker 1: is passed by the House of the Senate and sent
Speaker 1: to his desk for signature. He is invoking a power
Speaker 1: he concedes is even greater than him and trying to
Speaker 1: push this over the finish line. Let's hear it directly
Speaker 1: from the President.
Speaker 7: I'm tying homeland security into voter identification with picture and
Speaker 7: proof of citizen citizenship in order to vote, and those
Speaker 7: who are the most important thing having to do with
Speaker 7: homeland security. So it's part. It should be part of
Speaker 7: the Homeland Security bill, and I'm requesting that the Republican
Speaker 7: Senators do that immediately. You don't have to take a
Speaker 7: fast vote, don't worry about Easter going home. In fact,
Speaker 7: make this one for Jesus. Okay, make this one for Jesus.
Speaker 7: That's what I tell.
Speaker 1: Him, y'all. He called and on them come. My question
Speaker 1: is does he know them?
Speaker 6: No, No, he.
Speaker 3: Knows two Corinthians. You have to say nothing on this one.
Speaker 3: This is this is all a part of you know
Speaker 3: what he's been doing. He's been holding the Senate hostage
Speaker 3: to forcing the saveack down the throats of the American people,
Speaker 3: ensuring TSA workers are not getting paid for doing the
Speaker 3: hard work they do every single day, sending an ice
Speaker 3: to monitor and pass out water. I don't know if
Speaker 3: y'all saw that video. I wish I would have pulled that.
Speaker 3: But this is like all a part of this overall
Speaker 3: scheme to hijack American elections and to still continue to
Speaker 3: steal because the ain't a new still continue to steal
Speaker 3: democracy out of our hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'll tell you. I didn't put this in
Speaker 1: the announcements, but there were elections this week, and one
Speaker 1: such election took place actually in the area of Florida
Speaker 1: State House seat that represents mar A Lago and thereby
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the Florida Legislature, where a Democrat actually
Speaker 1: picked up that seat representing the president of the Florida
Speaker 1: Legislature and had about a fourteen point swing between their
Speaker 1: victory and the Republican who last held that held that seat.
Speaker 1: And I'll just mentioned just parenthetically to this save accents,
Speaker 1: he's uh.
Speaker 2: The today he's.
Speaker 1: Railing against mail and voting, y'all. But guess how Donald
Speaker 1: Trump voted in this election. He used mail and voting
Speaker 1: to cast his vote against his new Democratic representative. So
Speaker 1: I just thought that was They're crazy, thought that that
Speaker 1: that that was interesting to note. We're going to get
Speaker 1: a little deeper actionally into some of the suppressive tactics
Speaker 1: that that we're confronting a little bit later, but right now, Bakari,
Speaker 1: I hear there's some news on the on the Taylor
Speaker 1: family front.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first of all, I hope that we
Speaker 2: all take time to acknowledge those that we've lost in
Speaker 2: this kind of battle for soil rights and justice. People
Speaker 2: think that that we forget about them, But I just
Speaker 2: want Breonna Taylor's family to know that we remember her
Speaker 2: in a mode Aubrey and all those names that have
Speaker 2: been forgotten. People confuse justice and accountability all the time.
Speaker 2: And justice is Breonna Taylor still being here. Justice is
Speaker 2: George Floyd still being here. But here is Breonna Taylor's
Speaker 2: mother talking about her daughter and criticizing the Department of Justice.
Speaker 2: But she she says in our quote, she was killed
Speaker 2: because of their lives and negligence, and somebody should be
Speaker 2: held accountable for that. And that's as we look at
Speaker 2: d o J dismissing the charges for the officers that
Speaker 2: killed Brionna Taylor. In one of the words she uses
Speaker 2: in this which I think is so powerful, is accountability.
Speaker 2: And I think that we have to remember the difference
Speaker 2: between accountability and justice. But let Brionna Taylor's mother please
Speaker 2: have a moment where she's able to get that accountability.
Speaker 2: And the work that I do all the time, it's
Speaker 2: very ready that you get accountability or justice that civil
Speaker 2: cases are usually thrown out and the officers run scott free.
Speaker 2: And so here we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean this is heartbreaking. Our listeners will
Speaker 1: remember that the Department of Justice, under the most unjust
Speaker 1: Attorney General, Pam Bondi, has moved to see those charges
Speaker 1: against those officers dismissed. Since the Trump administration has come
Speaker 1: into power, I believe a judge still has to make
Speaker 1: the final decision on allowing those charges to be done
Speaker 1: away with. And you know, I think at home, let's
Speaker 1: just lift our lift ourselves and collective prayer that the
Speaker 1: right thing can be done.
Speaker 6: At this point, the right thing I don't know what
Speaker 6: that is anymore. Do we get to.
Speaker 4: Definitely isn charges?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure. Well, continuing along this theme of
Speaker 1: justice and what's right, Angela, I hear that there's a
Speaker 1: court case that that's moving.
Speaker 4: That wron afro Man. So shout out to Kerry Champion
Speaker 4: for calling this out.
Speaker 3: Our dear sister joy Read recently interviewed Afroman, whose government
Speaker 3: name is Joseph Foreman. It's all behind a lawsuit related
Speaker 3: to a twenty twenty two search warrant of Afroman's Ohio home,
Speaker 3: one of the homes. More on that in just a moment.
Speaker 3: It was executed by the Adams County Sheriff's Office and
Speaker 3: in response to them raiding his home for kidnapping and narcotics.
Speaker 4: The kidnapping and narcotics investigation, there were.
Speaker 3: No charges filed from Man did something that jay Z
Speaker 3: said maybe we should be done with.
Speaker 4: He brought fourth a dish track. Jay Z said, you
Speaker 4: don't know about these dish tracks no more. But Afroman
Speaker 4: had a little something on that. So maybe we can
Speaker 4: run part of the dish tract Nick and then.
Speaker 3: We can get to what he said about his second
Speaker 3: house from joy Riche.
Speaker 6: So let's tell let's start the surf in the beginning.
Speaker 6: I gave my rundown on a twenty twenty two How
Speaker 6: did you were not home?
Speaker 4: Were your wife and kids home?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: They were like, so, like, I have I have two houses.
Speaker 8: This this house is it's my company and it's my
Speaker 8: house when me and my ex get along, I'm gonna
Speaker 8: right there.
Speaker 2: It's anhinga.
Speaker 4: Got you the fact that he stopped.
Speaker 8: Joy.
Speaker 4: He tells you all you need to know. I want
Speaker 4: to hear from you on.
Speaker 6: This, Joyce said. Joyce. Joy's being a journalist, she said,
Speaker 6: and so were your wife and kids? Told he was
Speaker 6: like a damn, damn down, damn. My lady mad. My
Speaker 6: lady's sitting over here in the back. My lady not
Speaker 6: my wife, but my lady is mad. She's like, how
Speaker 6: is what?
Speaker 4: Two houses?
Speaker 6: I got an ex ye.
Speaker 4: I got a check it in a safe and.
Speaker 6: How it works is I was like, oh, she I've
Speaker 6: done that before. I have interviewed, you know, I ate
Speaker 6: the world of sports. I've interviewed certain athletes and I've
Speaker 6: asked about their family, thinking it's a it's a perfect,
Speaker 6: perfectly question, yeah, and they just get real uncomfortable, like
Speaker 6: I'm going through a divorce. How do you know? You're like, oh,
Speaker 6: you're cheating? Got it?
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 1: Angela say, if if if your husband, your boyfriend ain't
Speaker 1: posting about you on Valentine, he.
Speaker 4: Got he definitely got a whole other piece. Afro Man said, I.
Speaker 6: Got two hous I got two houses.
Speaker 4: I loved it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and my girlfriend's right here and now now I
Speaker 6: got to explain to her when I get off this line,
Speaker 6: Joy read.
Speaker 4: You got did you guys speak that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: That one of them green? That was a green screen backdrop.
Speaker 3: That greenhouse was not the house she was over in
Speaker 3: high behind that angela.
Speaker 1: How did the case turn out?
Speaker 4: So he didn't They did not win for defamation.
Speaker 3: They they tried to sue him over a dish track,
Speaker 3: and fortunately, I guess the jurors understand the assignment.
Speaker 4: They know that a dish track is not real.
Speaker 3: Uh, this is about you know, he said, I think
Speaker 3: the woman was a man, and that the uh that
Speaker 3: the the other officer was the son of a bitch,
Speaker 3: And I think, you know.
Speaker 2: It's just he was banging, banging exactly exactly his wife.
Speaker 6: He said, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only the only witness that afro Man called to
Speaker 2: the to the stand was the ex wife of one
Speaker 2: of the officers.
Speaker 1: Wild.
Speaker 2: The trial was fascinating. I would I think legally it's
Speaker 2: afro Man is just as consequential as Uncle Luke for
Speaker 2: music in the first Amendment.
Speaker 1: That's all right, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 4: That is amazing.
Speaker 6: And I love I love Afromn. I loved I love
Speaker 6: this entire didj Okay so did y'all listen to the
Speaker 6: There is a y'all need to listen to some of
Speaker 6: his greatest hits.
Speaker 2: The pound because I Got High is the best song
Speaker 2: he ever made.
Speaker 6: Oh no, but Poundcake got over like four four and
Speaker 6: a half million streams, like because the officer he literally
Speaker 6: watched the He literally was watching them go through his
Speaker 6: entire house while they were raiding his house. He was,
Speaker 6: he said, he pulled over to the side of the
Speaker 6: road and watched everything they did. He was like, this
Speaker 6: is the only way I can get these people back.
Speaker 6: Man stole his pound cake. That's just respectful. The officer
Speaker 6: ate his pound cake while they raided in the house.
Speaker 3: If it was a seven upcake, he would have died.
Speaker 3: If it was a seven up cake, he would have died.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't. I would look at those videos so
Speaker 1: long as they have septime.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you that you can understand we
Speaker 3: this is great and it might might have should have
Speaker 3: been a mini pot.
Speaker 4: But we gonna go to the next hot topic of.
Speaker 1: Winning or not winning. Okay, I hear Carrie, you've been
Speaker 1: following a particular team in her face, and I.
Speaker 2: Probably disagree with Carrie on this, I said, I probably am,
Speaker 2: but I want to hear what you got to say.
Speaker 6: You're talking about Yukon, and uh, well, you're talking about Syracuse.
Speaker 6: So so here's the deal. As everyone knows, March madness
Speaker 6: is happening right now, and there's one particular coach. Her
Speaker 6: name is Lagette Jack. She is a very well known coach.
Speaker 6: He's done well for herself. Before she was at Syracuse,
Speaker 6: she was at Buffalo, but she's in a particular part
Speaker 6: of this region where her bracket always finds her facing Yukon. Yukon,
Speaker 6: as we know, is one of the most dominant women's
Speaker 6: programs in women's basketball, and so essentially after the loss,
Speaker 6: she says that she's upset and she doesn't know why
Speaker 6: she has to continue to face Yukon. Take a listen.
Speaker 9: For us to do what we've done, to continuously have
Speaker 9: to come to Yukon and every single school that I
Speaker 9: go to, from Buffalo to it's unfair to the young people.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is.
Speaker 9: Somebody said, is there something that they might have against me?
Speaker 9: If that's the case, and we need to communicate about that.
Speaker 9: But for us to be what we've done and our
Speaker 9: body of work to have to come and play that
Speaker 9: best team in the country. I mean, Gino has this
Speaker 9: thing going and he is. I love what he's done,
Speaker 9: but we I thought deserved a little more respect after
Speaker 9: being in this business for thirty seven years and to
Speaker 9: have to come and be in this particular bracket every
Speaker 9: freaking year.
Speaker 3: Love shut up, brought you you.
Speaker 6: Nice. In my mind, I'm like, yeah, you know, you
Speaker 6: have to face Yukon. That's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You want to be the best right.
Speaker 6: You want to be the best right, So here cruise
Speaker 6: like you have to have these people, just just like
Speaker 6: Don did. Don got tired of getting her ass beat
Speaker 6: by that particular team I'm talking about Don Staley, and
Speaker 6: she got people behind her and recruited and did what
Speaker 6: she had to do. While it may not be that easy,
Speaker 6: right because it does. It sounds easy, but everybody can't
Speaker 6: do it. In my mind, I'm like, coach, I hear
Speaker 6: you you. But she's making it. She's almost making.
Speaker 3: It about her, she said, And she went on to say, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, if they got sign against me, why is.
Speaker 6: It about you? Why is it if it isn't really
Speaker 6: about these young ladies that you are trying to teach
Speaker 6: to be better humans. You're teaching and she and she said,
Speaker 6: I did a little further research. She said she knew
Speaker 6: they was gonna lose it two thirty because she couldn't
Speaker 6: simulate the surroundings of playing on you, playing in Yukon's
Speaker 6: arena and being with those fans. So the girls were
Speaker 6: already afraid. It was really a poor showing. But I'm
Speaker 6: like they learned that from you, Like I feel that
Speaker 6: that's set energy that they got from you. You may
Speaker 6: disagree with me Becaari, but I.
Speaker 2: Agree production car I did. I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: I just think that now that the reason that they
Speaker 2: are there, people need to know is that they they
Speaker 2: place people regionally so that fans can travel because in
Speaker 2: women's basketball, they're not neutral sites. The top sixteen teams
Speaker 2: get home teams. Except for the fact that usc did
Speaker 2: travel they little ass all the way over here to
Speaker 2: Columbia on Monday night and got smacked by forty points.
Speaker 2: So there are exceptions that are made to every rule there.
Speaker 2: So she may have a point, but you got to
Speaker 2: play the game. You got to strap up and go
Speaker 2: out and win.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm confused about what The point might be, if
Speaker 1: you eventually have to go through the better of the
Speaker 1: best teams, if they were the champions, they.
Speaker 2: Could have they could have swapped her out and made
Speaker 2: her the nine seed in our regional and the result
Speaker 2: was in the same.
Speaker 6: Right she could have been, but she would still have
Speaker 6: to face the best.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you still have to be it's a
Speaker 1: widowing process that if you keep winning, you will ultimate
Speaker 1: to get to the next best winner, who may be
Speaker 1: better than you, or they may be worse than you,
Speaker 1: but I'll carry them with you on the attitude that
Speaker 1: if you are setting your players up, all jump like,
Speaker 1: oh god, how we gonna play them again? They on
Speaker 1: our calendar again. That's that's that's no way to approach
Speaker 1: competitive sports. It's unsportsman like, unsports woman behavior. And then to.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, I know I was gonna take a detour
Speaker 2: because I was going to talk about I was gonna
Speaker 2: see if Carrie wanted to talk about some of the
Speaker 2: mess we saw on the W that came across my
Speaker 2: feet this morning.
Speaker 4: You guys can't do that because topic.
Speaker 2: If you saw that that new relationship that then the
Speaker 2: W they broadcast himself online. We'll talk about the gossip
Speaker 2: Jackie and DJA.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean maybe the listeners want to hit the gossip.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I'm gonna leave, y'all.
Speaker 1: I want to hear the load.
Speaker 6: Like she said, it's a holder.
Speaker 4: We got to.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you, the w is a mess and
Speaker 6: the relationships are even messier. And I'm here for all
Speaker 6: of the drama.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about We'll talk about it on the side.
Speaker 4: Y'all need to text in this studio chat.
Speaker 2: With Jackie and DJ and A. And you know she
Speaker 2: still has teammates with Well, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, as we are flying onto a new topic. As
Speaker 1: we lay, y'all, y'all can fly. Okay, We're gonna fly
Speaker 1: on to the to to what the heck is happening
Speaker 1: with these priced gug geam come up with a new category.
Speaker 1: You gotta buy your crackers and your soda and your
Speaker 1: water and you in your leg room. Apparently on the airliners. Carrie,
Speaker 1: what is this that we hear about?
Speaker 3: She might not be able to talk about United she
Speaker 3: can hit down to let me tell you this one
Speaker 3: hates United I will just say in economy they have
Speaker 3: a new class. Nick, do we have that picture of
Speaker 3: the United States so now you can buy three seats,
Speaker 3: and they got the seats that have flipped the legs
Speaker 3: up so you can make it a bed, so they can.
Speaker 4: Charge you a little more. Just so Carrie, Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: another layer.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Nick will play the video. Let's do that? Are you
Speaker 4: lying down?
Speaker 3: It says nope, they shut here. Well you're about to be,
Speaker 3: so you lift up those arm rest, boo, and then
Speaker 3: you kick that seat up like a recliner like popos.
Speaker 4: In the middle of the plane. Lay it out, got
Speaker 4: a blanket to pillows.
Speaker 3: You can fly by yourself, or you could cuddle with
Speaker 3: your boo, naptime with your kids, family time.
Speaker 4: Just for carry carry you.
Speaker 6: Know, I came full with United. And that is such
Speaker 6: a lie because they're not even giving you a real simulation,
Speaker 6: because y'all know what it's like in the in the
Speaker 6: in the economies. Y'all know how funch it's back there.
Speaker 6: There is no yeah, there's no breathing room. That's not realistic.
Speaker 6: That's so unfair, that's so unfair for tiny people.
Speaker 1: Really sure you know what that was for Trump? That
Speaker 1: that's why he went out the Greenland. He saw it
Speaker 1: on the map. It was huge, and he's like it's.
Speaker 4: So big, it's huge.
Speaker 1: Well, didn't the US.
Speaker 3: Happy with Delta Delta snatching the members of Congress? That's
Speaker 3: the play said. If ts A can't do it, then
Speaker 3: you're not getting no perks.
Speaker 1: I don't explain it listens from from the top, what
Speaker 1: is doing.
Speaker 6: So if you are a member of Congress and you
Speaker 6: fly Delta, you get perks probably to the line. First,
Speaker 6: you don't have to go through certain certain areas of security.
Speaker 6: They take care of you in various ways. But they said,
Speaker 6: you know, the upgrades and such, and so they're saying
Speaker 6: Delta's like, you know what, until you all figure this out,
Speaker 6: you don't get any perks if you can't. If you can't,
Speaker 6: and I think to me that was much more of
Speaker 6: a political statement. That's why I said, that's why I
Speaker 6: forol Delta. I am ade Delta. Okay, so you get it.
Speaker 6: Not only is it the best airline. I appreciate them
Speaker 6: being bold enough to say we don't have time for this.
Speaker 6: It's like, guess what if you can't figure this out,
Speaker 6: no more perks. You wait just like everybody else, You
Speaker 6: get harassed by by ice like everyone else. You you
Speaker 6: sit with the pedestrians, nothing special about you. We'm putting
Speaker 6: you back in Jim Pop, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: We do have the video from Delta CEO, so let's
Speaker 4: take a quick listen.
Speaker 10: It's inexcusable that our security agents, are frontline agents that
Speaker 10: are central to what we do, are not being paid.
Speaker 10: And it's ridiculous to see them be used as a
Speaker 10: political chips.
Speaker 2: So you know, we're our age, you know.
Speaker 10: And if there's a call to action here, and I
Speaker 10: think open ninety percent of the American public support most
Speaker 10: people getting paid. Ask our folks right here in Washington
Speaker 10: to do their job, get our people paid. They can
Speaker 10: do it.
Speaker 1: That's leadership.
Speaker 6: Do your job.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I think that's Ed Bastian is his
Speaker 1: name in correct me if I'm wrong, But I appreciated
Speaker 1: during the George Floyd protests the statement that came under
Speaker 1: his signature from Delta remembory pretty distinctly, and I also
Speaker 1: appreciate it. This is a little selfish and personal, but
Speaker 1: the great links they went through through COVID and recognizing
Speaker 1: that a lot of folks weren't flying for people who
Speaker 1: were regular flyers, and it achieved certain levels and statuses
Speaker 1: and points and that kind of thing. They like, rolled
Speaker 1: that thing over for three years. They sure did, you know,
Speaker 1: gave you opportunity after opportunity away. I just think that's
Speaker 1: the way that corporations can stand up during the age
Speaker 1: of Trump and Trump is to say that they matter.
Speaker 1: It may not seem like a big thing to regular folk,
Speaker 1: but those members aly on that thing when they're running
Speaker 1: from the Capitol trying to catch a flight to get
Speaker 1: to you know, back to their homes and enjoy their
Speaker 1: weekends and so on and so forth.
Speaker 6: Waitness line waiting is to our line wrapped around the corner.
Speaker 1: If y'all can't do your business, you can't do the
Speaker 1: work in Washington. Do it.
Speaker 2: That's just for just for people who were watching. The
Speaker 2: people need to know that you can fund t s
Speaker 2: A cleanly without funding the rest of homeland security. So
Speaker 2: that was the agreement, you know, if they want to.
Speaker 1: Know, that was the Republicans and the Democrats agreement that
Speaker 1: that soon took to Trump.
Speaker 2: Trump and Trump said no. So, I mean there have
Speaker 2: been bills. There have been seven bills, clean bills, clean
Speaker 2: funding bills to fund the fund TSA that Democrats have
Speaker 2: sponsored that eleven. Now I'm sorry side. Yeah, that's but
Speaker 2: there's been an objection from at least one senator each time.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, people should know that this can be done cleanly.
Speaker 2: Republicans are objecting to that, that's right.
Speaker 1: And just you know, while we're on this to say,
Speaker 1: and I know we'll talk about TSA. We will be
Speaker 1: flowing into that real quick. But he used TSA because
Speaker 1: he knows the disdain that Democrats and the American people have,
Speaker 1: the fear that has now been instilled in so many
Speaker 1: of us about what people can expect when they encounter TSA.
Speaker 1: He used that as a weapon to basically say, Okay, Democrats,
Speaker 1: if you won't agree, if you won't come to the
Speaker 1: table and do what I want you to do, how
Speaker 1: about we dispatched TSA. And I think Angela, you've got
Speaker 1: a little bit more drilled down on how they're showing
Speaker 1: up in airport, what's around the country now.
Speaker 3: What we are really starting to see, y'all is this
Speaker 3: overlap between the actions of the Save Act and Andrew,
Speaker 3: That's why I was kind of mumbling under my breath.
Speaker 3: It's actually a little more complicated than that. That compromise
Speaker 3: that Senator thom brought to Donald Trump was because what
Speaker 3: they're hoping for is that they can get at least
Speaker 3: most of the elements of the Save Act thrown into
Speaker 3: the reconciliation process, so they still force this thing down
Speaker 3: our throats. A lot of Democratic senators don't support that methodology,
Speaker 3: but they were trying to figure out a way to
Speaker 3: get the TSO's paid. Yesterday, you all may know, my
Speaker 3: solo pod was on this topic. Talked to the AFG
Speaker 3: president Everett Kelly, and then one of the local presidents,
Speaker 3: Aaron Barker, who was also ASO le' sorry American Federation
Speaker 3: of Government Employees, and they represent I think it's twenty
Speaker 3: seven thousand of the tsos, although there are a little
Speaker 3: under fifty thousand total, and so what I think is
Speaker 3: really important here is the overlay. So they are doing
Speaker 3: a dry run, as we'll see in this next clip
Speaker 3: from Steve Bannon. And then I'll yield to y'all of
Speaker 3: what it might be like to deploy ice where they
Speaker 3: do not belong outside of the jurisdiction as originally intended
Speaker 3: in that initial Homeland Security Authorization Act. If we deploy
Speaker 3: ice around the country in places where we can instill
Speaker 3: fear in the American people, at the airports, just to
Speaker 3: see if you have your papers, at election sites, just
Speaker 3: to see if you have your papers, and everywhere else
Speaker 3: that doesn't have anything to do with enforcing immigration the
Speaker 3: immigration laws of this land. So let's roll this clip
Speaker 3: from Steve Bannon because I think it's important, and then
Speaker 3: let's tie this into Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: Let's roll it.
Speaker 11: We can use what's happening with these ICE helping out,
Speaker 11: helping out at the airports. We can use this as
Speaker 11: a test is a test case to get it's really
Speaker 11: perfect ICE's involvement in the twenty twenty six midterm elections.
Speaker 2: Sir, Yeah, I think we should have ICE agents at
Speaker 2: the polling places because if you're an illegal alien, you
Speaker 2: can't vote.
Speaker 11: The ICE agents at the airports to help out. And
Speaker 11: remember they said they're not going to work the X
Speaker 11: rays is too complicated and they're not trained for it.
Speaker 11: But they're trained to wait for it, check IDs. That's
Speaker 11: what it's perfect training for the fall of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 11: This is why it's such a brilliant This is another
Speaker 11: five D chess move for President Trump. Let's get ICE
Speaker 11: into the airports to help out to the lines. And
Speaker 11: they can't work the machines, you know, what they do
Speaker 11: is walk them down. Hey, we're gonna speak things, SOO
Speaker 11: can we check your IDs? That's what's going to happen
Speaker 11: in the follow twenty six because folks, we're tired of
Speaker 11: having an election stolen. So ICE is going to be
Speaker 11: there in the in the fall of twenty six, just
Speaker 11: like they're in the airports today. So from the war room,
Speaker 11: suck on.
Speaker 4: That, Jesus Christ. Right, So there's that, and then I
Speaker 4: want it.
Speaker 3: While you guys are responding to this, Nick, if we
Speaker 3: can put up pages one fifty eight and one fifty
Speaker 3: nine of Project twenty twenty five where they reference TSA.
Speaker 3: They are at the same time where they're trying to intimidate
Speaker 3: American citizens, they also are working to make TSA clunky
Speaker 3: so they can privatize it. Why would they want to
Speaker 3: do that? They also want to deunionize it. Why would
Speaker 3: they want to put all of this in place around
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty sixth elections so that we are forced
Speaker 3: to have our IDs check? So it's in alignment with
Speaker 3: what the Save Act calls for. Even if they don't
Speaker 3: pass the Save Act, And all of this is happening
Speaker 3: with the backdrop of what happened in the Supreme Court,
Speaker 3: so we can hold that. But I want y'all to
Speaker 3: be able to respond to this.
Speaker 1: So if I could just say, for the benefit of
Speaker 1: our listeners, that there isn't a jurisdiction that I know
Speaker 1: of in the entire United States that does not have
Speaker 1: an ID verification when you go and vote, either an identification,
Speaker 1: a legal identification, or you would have to vote what
Speaker 1: is known as a challenge ballot, which is an affidavit
Speaker 1: that swears that you are who you say you are,
Speaker 1: and that vote then gets investigated and counted or discounted
Speaker 1: after the election day is done. That's part of the
Speaker 1: curing process. So when you hear the President say that
Speaker 1: it's just an ID, he's playing with you. It is
Speaker 1: not just an ID. We already have that in the
Speaker 1: fifty states and in the four territories in which voting
Speaker 1: takes place and is run by those respective states or territories.
Speaker 1: What he is suggesting, not suggesting, what he wants to mandate,
Speaker 1: is that we now not only have to show our identification,
Speaker 1: whatever that legal idea may be, but that we have
Speaker 1: to show our papers. And what do we mean when
Speaker 1: we say show our papers? It means that you need
Speaker 1: to have a birth certificate, a government issue birth certificate
Speaker 1: that you produce in order to register to vote. And saying,
Speaker 1: millions of people, millions across this country, including and I
Speaker 1: would say especially and Republican areas, do not have line
Speaker 1: of sight access to their birth certificates. I have had
Speaker 1: to requisition my own information from my state's government. And
Speaker 1: I mentioned before on this show, was sent two different
Speaker 1: Social Security cards with two different middle names for me
Speaker 1: on it, right, So the government, it's not as if
Speaker 1: they have the perfect solution for all the problems. I
Speaker 1: had to go through and get other documentation to cure that,
Speaker 1: and then get a single number and card that had
Speaker 1: my first, middle and last name actually accurate.
Speaker 6: And you know who doesn't have that? A lot of women, married,
Speaker 6: women divorced, they change their name often, and also older people.
Speaker 6: My friend is trying to get a passport for her dad,
Speaker 6: he's seventy some years old. She can't get his birth certificate.
Speaker 6: It's impossible to get his birth certificate in California, in
Speaker 6: Los Angeles County it takes her for the paperwork and
Speaker 6: the amount of time, and it's so intentional, and I'm
Speaker 6: thinking to myself, this is so disgusting, and it feels more,
Speaker 6: and it feels more to me. You think of women
Speaker 6: who have been married and they changed their last name,
Speaker 6: or they didn't change their last name, or they got
Speaker 6: a divorce and they didn't change it back, and it's
Speaker 6: impossible to find that to happen. And I think about
Speaker 6: that for so many women because that is the case,
Speaker 6: that's real.
Speaker 1: And you know what else, I think that's a brilliant point.
Speaker 1: I would also add, particularly in the South, the geopolitical South,
Speaker 1: but also the actual South, you have elders who were
Speaker 1: given a name, hospital changes it. They end up with
Speaker 1: different documentation that does not include the name that they
Speaker 1: go by. And so if you force those people to
Speaker 1: track down the ID that matches then the birth certificate
Speaker 1: name and have those be identical in spelling and in
Speaker 1: every other forms, we would run into some serious situations.
Speaker 1: And again that is at the hands of the government.
Speaker 1: That's at the hands of the government, not the fault
Speaker 1: of the individual. So when we hear the President talk
Speaker 1: about this, and everybody says, well, yeah, I mean, it
Speaker 1: makes sense to have an ID. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: an ID. That's not what this is about. This is
Speaker 1: about show your papers. And what they're creating is a
Speaker 1: problem in search of a solution, rather than a solution
Speaker 1: in search of a they have a solution that they're
Speaker 1: creating a problem.
Speaker 6: This is not a real problem. This is not a problem.
Speaker 6: It's not a problem.
Speaker 1: We're talking about fourteen people in what ten years who
Speaker 1: voted illegally as non citizens of the United States, and
Speaker 1: we're able to prove that it was an intentional act.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's incredible. One of the things that we
Speaker 2: are seeing right now, and I wanted to toss to a
Speaker 2: clip from Senator Ed Markey from Massachusetts, is that you
Speaker 2: highlighted this because a lot of people who watch the show,
Speaker 2: and a lot of my friends, barbershop friends, a lot
Speaker 2: of black men I talk to ask the question, like
Speaker 2: why is it difficult to show your ID when you vote?
Speaker 2: They think that's what this is, and it's not. It's
Speaker 2: a citizenship test, right, it's proving your citizenship. Those things
Speaker 2: And again we go back to the same point that
Speaker 2: we made last week and the week before lasted. If
Speaker 2: your vote went and so important, they wouldn't work so
Speaker 2: damn hard to take it from you. And along those
Speaker 2: same lines, one of the things that I found to
Speaker 2: be true is that if the Save I passes, it
Speaker 2: will be easier to buy an AR fifteen in this
Speaker 2: country then it will be to vote. And Ed Markey
Speaker 2: right here, Nick toss it up actually went to the
Speaker 2: well and illustrated this.
Speaker 12: The new requirement to present a photo ID at the
Speaker 12: polling place is more stringent than laws already on the
Speaker 12: books in all but one stake in the country. If
Speaker 12: to Save Act, if to Steal Act passes, it will
Speaker 12: be easier to buy a gun in many states than
Speaker 12: to vote. Can I say that again? The NRA does
Speaker 12: not want it to be difficult to buy a gun.
Speaker 12: Republicans go along with that. Red States standards are very low.
Speaker 12: To buy a gun, but to vote, Oh, now they're concerns.
Speaker 12: Now we need standards which make it almost impossible for
Speaker 12: tens of millions of Americans to.
Speaker 2: Be able to comply. So just let that sink in.
Speaker 12: It would be easy to buy a gun than to
Speaker 12: exercise the most fundamental right of citizenship in our nation.
Speaker 1: But KR, you say this all the time that none
Speaker 1: of these things are high happening in isolation, separate and
Speaker 1: apart from each other, That all these things, these systems
Speaker 1: at every level, are working together in conspiracy to produce
Speaker 1: a particular outcome. Angela. Before we go to the or
Speaker 1: arguments that were before the US Supreme Court this week,
Speaker 1: give us an example of how out there on the
Speaker 1: West Coast we are seeing the local leaders take it
Speaker 1: into their own hands to try to bear down again
Speaker 1: on this intimidation tactic around voting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that what we're seeing is states across
Speaker 3: the country are emboldened by what we are witnessing Republicans do,
Speaker 3: which is to make it more difficult to vote and
Speaker 3: to intimidate voters. So the Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco,
Speaker 3: who also happens to be a front runner on the
Speaker 3: Republican side in the California governor's gouvenatorial race, is trying
Speaker 3: to seize more than six hundred and fifty thousand ballots
Speaker 3: under the auspices of conducting a recount effort.
Speaker 1: I believe he already sees Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4: He already sees them.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, and I think that what is fascinating here
Speaker 3: is the Attorney General, Rob Bonta, said that this sheriff
Speaker 3: has no probable cause for such an investigation. The court
Speaker 3: actually did not agree with the Attorney General. What I
Speaker 3: think this does is put people in harm's way. They
Speaker 3: are afraid about what is happening Again, Andrew, you talked
Speaker 3: about a solution in search a problem. They're going on
Speaker 3: looking for voter fraud when in fact it says there
Speaker 3: have only been seventy one cases a voter fraud in
Speaker 3: the past thirty two years in California, and those are
Speaker 3: voter fraud convictions despite California County more than eleven point
Speaker 3: five million ballots in November in the special election alone.
Speaker 3: So that, I think is what is an issue here again,
Speaker 3: then being emboldened by the Steve Bannons of the world,
Speaker 3: by the Heritage Foundations of the world by Project twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five that also deals with voting. So yes, what's
Speaker 3: happening in Mississippi and why this case was before the
Speaker 3: Supreme Court have everything to do with this. So from
Speaker 3: Mississippi to Cali, we see this problem happening.
Speaker 1: So in California. Just so that listeners, all of us
Speaker 1: can let this sink in a sheriff of a county
Speaker 1: is able to not off of a referral from the
Speaker 1: prosecutor's office. Right, that's genuinely generally how a investigation out
Speaker 1: of nowhere thin air comes in to formation, because you
Speaker 1: don't just investigate for no reason. You investigate with the
Speaker 1: intention to prosecute and hold accountable people who have done
Speaker 1: something wrong.
Speaker 4: Or unless your intention is intimidation, which.
Speaker 1: Is who are guided by other intentions, that's extrac That's
Speaker 1: exactly right. So all I'm saying is that if imagine
Speaker 1: where you live, your county sheriff deciding that they have
Speaker 1: the power to go and seize the ballots of another
Speaker 1: constitutionally elected officer. Almost in every place, Supervisors of elections
Speaker 1: are elected, Secretary of states in some cases are appointed,
Speaker 1: but many of them are elected going into that jurisdiction
Speaker 1: off of a right wing conspiracy. That's right, that the
Speaker 1: votes that were tallied don't match what they believe the
Speaker 1: actual turnout numbers represented in that county.
Speaker 6: Right, Andrew the Attorney general not to cut you off,
Speaker 6: even said no, he said, please, let's let let me
Speaker 6: let me investigate before you, before you continue down this path.
Speaker 6: Let me see where these allegations are coming from, if
Speaker 6: it's even founded. He's like, no, I'm all sat, I know.
Speaker 6: I haven't talked to and I'm like, this is wild
Speaker 6: the world that we live in. Again, to your point
Speaker 6: about literally creating a solution for a problem we don't have.
Speaker 6: This administration is good for that, Maggan is good for that.
Speaker 6: I think of the trans issue in sports, there really
Speaker 6: isn't an issue. There isn't if this is a big
Speaker 6: issue and trans boys are taking over girls' sports in
Speaker 6: high school and in college. But you ran on that
Speaker 6: like it was such an issue. These are not real things,
Speaker 6: and people are being sit in their mind, They're like,
Speaker 6: this is happening. One is too many? By fourteen people
Speaker 6: who voted illegally? Is too many? Forty seventy seven people
Speaker 6: throw out these random numbers. It's just too many. And
Speaker 6: that's what's happening right now in real time.
Speaker 1: I'm curious from y'all's perspective whether or not you think,
Speaker 1: and again we'll get to the Supreme Court cases. Is
Speaker 1: really important that we all stay abreast of this. But
Speaker 1: what do you think democrats forget democrats, lovers of democracy,
Speaker 1: people who value the rights that we have and want
Speaker 1: to see them expanded and not constricted. How should we
Speaker 1: be talking about this if we know that most reasonable people,
Speaker 1: but Car, you invoked this folks in the Bibles are saying,
Speaker 1: what's the problem with you're being able to produce ID
Speaker 1: when we know it's more complicated than that. How should
Speaker 1: we be talking about this in a way that validates
Speaker 1: some of the reasonableness of the of the argument around
Speaker 1: identification with what is draconian and what they are doing
Speaker 1: as as repult. If we had advice and somebody was
Speaker 1: on the listening end of our advice, what would it
Speaker 1: be around how this thing ought to be argued innovated?
Speaker 12: Car?
Speaker 1: If you're talking, you're muted.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry my house phone was ringing, so im mute
Speaker 2: at myself. But I don't even know what we got
Speaker 2: no house.
Speaker 4: I'm impressed you got a house, got some new headphones.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I go through? Do you see
Speaker 2: what I got through? I've actually talked to hr at iHeart,
Speaker 2: and they said they just said stick with it. I mean, r.
Speaker 3: Okay, Michael bar Jordan, every name, his name is Andrew.
Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, all right, all right, anyway, back in two thousand.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and six when I first read for office,
Speaker 2: ran against Thomas Road, who was eighty two years old,
Speaker 2: have been in office for twenty six years. And on
Speaker 2: election day at one of my biggest precincts in Denmark,
Speaker 2: we actually had two white guys pull up to the
Speaker 2: precinct and a pickup truck and they got out of
Speaker 2: the pickup truck with the shotgun and they literally just
Speaker 2: sat in front of this all black precinct for hours
Speaker 2: with a shotgun, like counting key. It's not open carry,
Speaker 2: but it's Denmark. Were close enough to open carry right.
Speaker 2: We're open carry now, but at the time you had
Speaker 2: to have a license. But weren't nobody gonna bother them.
Speaker 2: It was that type of intimidation, that kind of overt intimidation,
Speaker 2: we're gonna see you up with physical I'm sorry, Nick,
Speaker 2: we're gonna mess you up with physical vie violence type
Speaker 2: of intimidation that we could see, and we just built
Speaker 2: our mindset to say that nobody was going to stop
Speaker 2: us from getting to the polls. Black folks always say,
Speaker 2: you know, we're going to overcome this, whatever hurdle they
Speaker 2: put in our way. We're going to overcome this. So
Speaker 2: my first piece of advice is one that nobody's really
Speaker 2: going to like. Right The first piece of advice I
Speaker 2: have is begin now working for what the possible outcome
Speaker 2: may be. So with our seniors, with our older people. NAACP,
Speaker 2: by the way, shout out to Kristen Clark for being
Speaker 2: the new announced as the news General Counsel of the NAACP.
Speaker 2: Begin organizing right now, helping people get their papers for
Speaker 2: November of twenty twenty six, Begin working on what the
Speaker 2: possible outcome may be, so we're not scrambling in November
Speaker 2: doing provisional ballots and having all of these ballots and
Speaker 2: a very consequential election tossed out. That's first and foremost.
Speaker 2: The second thing is we're in the middle of filing
Speaker 2: periods right now. In a lot of states. People are
Speaker 2: fire to run for office. We need to make sure
Speaker 2: that one of the biggest and most sexy races that
Speaker 2: people run for a secretary of state. You know, for
Speaker 2: a long period of time, we haven't focused on secretary
Speaker 2: of State. We haven't focused on judges, we haven't focused
Speaker 2: on Supreme Court justices, and that's coming to bite us
Speaker 2: in the ass Supervisors of elections, supervisors of elections, those
Speaker 2: things matter. And actually what we're seeing right now because
Speaker 2: of the West Coast the sheriffs. Because if the sheriff
Speaker 2: has the audacity to walk into a precinct and seize ballots,
Speaker 2: what is he doing on the side, He's probably sprinkling
Speaker 2: a little coke on your son when he pulls them
Speaker 2: over for a minor traffic violation, right, So I mean
Speaker 2: there is a direct correlation, trust me. So I just
Speaker 2: think that we have to begin to prepare ourselves for
Speaker 2: what the endgame is. Work backwards and preparing for an election,
Speaker 2: running for office, electing to people, and right now, it's
Speaker 2: important for our local elected officials mayors. Shout out to
Speaker 2: all the mayors we love, but they're going to have
Speaker 2: to utilize their platform to raise their voices about this
Speaker 2: issue because they are closest to the ground. Mayor, city
Speaker 2: council people, school board people need to be teaching people
Speaker 2: about what the Save Act is. Of course, you don't
Speaker 2: have a vote on it, but Randa Woolfin's voice is
Speaker 2: probably more powerful in Alabama than even those people who
Speaker 2: are federally elected. Frank Scott's voice in Little Rock is
Speaker 2: more powerful than people who are federally elected, and so
Speaker 2: I empower all of those local elected officials where we
Speaker 2: still have some success. Chris Hollins in Houston, Texas. I mean,
Speaker 2: make sure that you're raising your voice using your platform
Speaker 2: so people really understand what the Save Act is when
Speaker 2: we talk about it and mention it. So those are
Speaker 2: my three kind of tangible things that we have to
Speaker 2: do to prepare for what is this tsunami.
Speaker 1: Carrion Angela as well as Bikari speaking of the preparing
Speaker 1: for what may be right, the potential, the inevitable, the possible,
Speaker 1: the plausible, and.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.
Speaker 1: This week, the United States Supreme Court heard or arguments
Speaker 1: based on a case coming out of Mississippi where the
Speaker 1: state of Mississippi, run by Republicans during the COVID era,
Speaker 1: passed the law that allowed for ballots that were mailed
Speaker 1: and postmarked by election day to be counted in the
Speaker 1: total count of the votes that are cast. And just
Speaker 1: so that folks know, it's about thirty days or so
Speaker 1: after the election the actual election day takes place that
Speaker 1: those votes then are formally certified, which then leads to
Speaker 1: whatever the official outcome is of that race. So there
Speaker 1: is already a period that is built in for the
Speaker 1: curing and the certification of the votes that are cast. Well,
Speaker 1: the National Republican Party took issue with the Republicans in
Speaker 1: Mississippi taking their marching orders from Trump and are saying
Speaker 1: no election days. One day you vote, you count those
Speaker 1: ballots on that one day. In any that comes in
Speaker 1: the mail after that should not be, should not be,
Speaker 1: should not be counted. So that's a very hairy, just
Speaker 1: sort of picture of what the case is. That is
Speaker 1: before the courts and the jurists had their opportunity to
Speaker 1: ask questions, which oftentimes gives us a window into how
Speaker 1: they might decide the ultimate case. Let's hear a little
Speaker 1: bit of what we here heard from the justices this week.
Speaker 13: Should ballots that arrive after election day be allowed to
Speaker 13: be counted even if they're postmarked by election day? Mississippis
Speaker 13: Solicitor General says yes.
Speaker 5: States have allowed that for over a century. Congress has
Speaker 5: respected it, no one challenged it until now. The question
Speaker 5: is whether Congress in eighteen forty five blocked that practice.
Speaker 5: The answer is no.
Speaker 13: Fourteen states plus Washington, d C. As well as the
Speaker 13: territories of Guam, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands
Speaker 13: accept late arriving ballots, a practice lawyers for the Republican
Speaker 13: National Committee and the Trump administration say should be banned.
Speaker 2: I would say that the day of the election is
Speaker 2: the days the last day in which all the ballots
Speaker 2: are cast and they are received into official custody.
Speaker 13: The three liberal justices raising concerns about ballots received from
Speaker 13: those serving in the US military, also citing the long
Speaker 13: history of counting them after election day and the lack
Speaker 13: of federal laws prohibiting it.
Speaker 3: Congress just said, whatever the state has decided with regard
Speaker 3: to ballot received dead lines is going to apply here.
Speaker 2: Correct, And that's been the case for one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty years.
Speaker 1: Y're on, So one hundred and eighty years. This has
Speaker 1: been a practice in the United States of validating and
Speaker 1: counting those votes so long as they've been postmarked. And
Speaker 1: y'all may remember this with joy. When the Joy was
Speaker 1: appointed the Postmaster General by Donald Trump, and we had
Speaker 1: all these delays and then shut down enclosures of post
Speaker 1: offices around the country. A lot of us were really
Speaker 1: operating in fear that they would use the postal service
Speaker 1: and mail in ballots as a way to slow down,
Speaker 1: potentially the delivery of mail from some places, so that
Speaker 1: if fail outside the reasonable period for votes to be counted,
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So what you could depend on,
Speaker 1: and by the way, the federal government depends on this
Speaker 1: when it comes to our taxes, that so long as
Speaker 1: your taxes are postponed by the date that taxes are due,
Speaker 1: they are technically on time at the point that the
Speaker 1: federal government receives that mail and to their offices. The
Speaker 1: federal government already recognizes postmark date as a legitimate date
Speaker 1: to meet the deadline. Right, but in this case, somehow
Speaker 1: the law's been transfigured. What do y'all thay, what's your
Speaker 1: take on this case and what you think may happen?
Speaker 6: The overall issue for me, and when I listen, and
Speaker 6: I'm glad that I'm a guest, but when I listen
Speaker 6: to you all talk, and I know that everyone at
Speaker 6: home who's watching and listening understands that the issue is
Speaker 6: is that this man is trying to steal the election.
Speaker 6: It is in place, and it's happening, and we can
Speaker 6: talk about all these different specific ways in which it's happening,
Speaker 6: so that we can be well informed. But all I'm
Speaker 6: saying is that I sit here and I watch in
Speaker 6: real time, and I almost and I don't want to
Speaker 6: use the H word, but it feels very hopeless. It
Speaker 6: feels like and that's when you said, where do we
Speaker 6: get this? What kind of advice? And then McCary says, Okay,
Speaker 6: we should make sure that we pay attention to different
Speaker 6: different elections and make sure that we are putting people
Speaker 6: in places and positions where they can stop this from
Speaker 6: happening in real time, but preparing for the worst. I
Speaker 6: am watching that no one has any real integrity, No
Speaker 6: one within this no one within this administration is a leader.
Speaker 6: Everyone is following suit and it terrifies me in real time.
Speaker 6: And for someone who grew up in California and it's
Speaker 6: always late, trust me, my ballot was just right on time,
Speaker 6: and put it right. It's six fifty nine. You still
Speaker 6: can come and get it whatever time it was. That's
Speaker 6: what it is. And I'm watching every single thing put
Speaker 6: in place across this nation to make sure that this
Speaker 6: man stays in this position of power. And it's terrifying
Speaker 6: to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that should be, I mean it should be.
Speaker 2: It should be terrifying. But with that, with that terrifying,
Speaker 2: terrifying feeling, it should not necessarcessarily be hopeless. But I
Speaker 2: would articulate that we should hope that people have a
Speaker 2: sense of urgency. And I think and I think that
Speaker 2: the urgency is missing from this discussion because we have
Speaker 2: been so beat up and put upon for the past
Speaker 2: eight ten years, and you know, and black folk much longer.
Speaker 2: But just since Trump came down that escalator in twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen and just a degradation and the language and you know,
Speaker 2: calling Mexicans rapist. That's how he came out the gate, right,
Speaker 2: you know, all of these things that we see. And
Speaker 2: I was telling people, I was describing people about being
Speaker 2: on CNN when when when I got higher, Barack Obama
Speaker 2: was still president. It's like we had one new cycle
Speaker 2: a day, right, you talked about one issue a day.
Speaker 2: Now it's like perverbably drinking out of a fire hose.
Speaker 2: You have eight nine news cycles in a day. So
Speaker 2: it becomes exhausting. And what we're asking people to do
Speaker 2: is and it's hard. The audacity of us sit in
Speaker 2: these beautiful homes and sit in the comfort of our chairs,
Speaker 2: and people are trying to make ends meet, they have
Speaker 2: kids that are sick. You know, they are trying to
Speaker 2: make sure that they work there forty hours a week
Speaker 2: and still work their other job and do all of
Speaker 2: these things. And we're still asking them to have urgency
Speaker 2: about a process that they now see is so fragile.
Speaker 2: Democracy is so fragile. The audacity for us to do that,
Speaker 2: I think also lacks some self awareness, because we have
Speaker 2: to be empathetic enough to understand what they're going through,
Speaker 2: but also understanding the preservation of democracy is of the
Speaker 2: utmost importance right now, and there.
Speaker 1: Is push back there. Yes, I agree with you that
Speaker 1: there is a need to recognize what people are feeling
Speaker 1: and how they're being put upon. But I think part
Speaker 1: of our jobs here is to one distill as best
Speaker 1: we can what folks have coming at them so that
Speaker 1: they're not surprised, called unawares, and then retreat because they
Speaker 1: weren't prepared for it. I think part of what we
Speaker 1: have to do is not only make people feel urgency,
Speaker 1: but also help people to build a plan of how
Speaker 1: they're going to navigate all these challenges that are coming
Speaker 1: at us to still get that vote done. Because if
Speaker 1: we disconnect in any way, shape or form the struggles
Speaker 1: folks are having to make their forty hours a week
Speaker 1: to keep their kids fed, to keep a roof over
Speaker 1: their head. If we disconnect that from the people who
Speaker 1: are in the positions of power making those decisions, shame
Speaker 1: on us. Because if you think you can sit where
Speaker 1: you sit, wherever it is you sit in this at
Speaker 1: this time, in this conversation and disconnect your issues, your
Speaker 1: highest hopes, ambitions for your family, or your deepest, darkest
Speaker 1: fears that that for you, yourself and your family. If
Speaker 1: you can disconnect that from the politics that are at work,
Speaker 1: then you are a fool, because they are not disconnected.
Speaker 2: They are one in sense. I hear you and I
Speaker 2: agree that not you. No no, no, no no no no no,
Speaker 2: I mean I mean no. You just do that off
Speaker 2: air consistently and it hurts you. Oh no, I thank you,
Speaker 2: But but I wanted to I want to thank you.
Speaker 2: I wanted to quote. Let me let me quote Mike
Speaker 2: type in here to respond to you. Okay, I think
Speaker 2: it was Mike because.
Speaker 4: That gets us into sports. Keep going.
Speaker 2: But Mike Tyson, I think is the one who said
Speaker 2: it best. Everybody has a plan until they get punched
Speaker 2: in the face, right, And so you know, we talk
Speaker 2: about it on this show a lot of giving. Carrie
Speaker 2: asked me for some things, and I gave some tangible things,
Speaker 2: and her response is is very on point and correct,
Speaker 2: like those plans sound good, but day after day we're
Speaker 2: getting punched in the jaw like we are. It's hard
Speaker 2: and when you take those beatings consistently, we have to
Speaker 2: find some way. My only point is I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's through uh you know, a charismatic figure in leadership,
Speaker 2: or I don't know if it's through continuously preaching the
Speaker 2: same message we're preaching. I don't want people to have
Speaker 2: a Messiah complex by any stretch, but we have to
Speaker 2: find some way to kind of bridge that gap of
Speaker 2: that hopelessness with that urgency and find find a way
Speaker 2: for people to meet somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I would just say, imagine how many
Speaker 1: punches Tyson was able to avoid because he anticipated, right,
Speaker 1: we know the ones that landed and must have done.
Speaker 1: They were few.
Speaker 6: And probity that it takes both. Everyone takes both.
Speaker 1: It takes both. But the last thing that I think
Speaker 1: we can do is in any way delude people into
Speaker 1: thinking that this is going to be a walk in
Speaker 1: the park, watchewing gum. It's not gonna be that.
Speaker 3: It's not, And neither is the month of March in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five or in twenty twenty six. There March
Speaker 3: madness means something completely different these days. We spoke a
Speaker 3: lot about the March madness happening politically, but we got
Speaker 3: Carrie Champion.
Speaker 4: Here, Andrew, So what you say we pivot to March madness?
Speaker 6: Beautiful transition?
Speaker 1: What's your gay? From madness to madness.
Speaker 4: From madness, from bad madness to good madness? Andrew? Unless
Speaker 4: we talk about that Syracuse clip from earlier? So are
Speaker 4: we are we gonna hit these brackets, y'all? Carrie cheat,
Speaker 4: We get these brats.
Speaker 6: So look, So yesterday during the production meeting, which Cary
Speaker 6: did not attend, I said, I want to give this
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 2: I don't work. I'm taking notes.
Speaker 6: He goes, get you, go get me. So I said,
Speaker 6: why don't we all do just a little, you know,
Speaker 6: a little final four, just your final four. You don't
Speaker 6: have to walk us through the whole tournament. Because everybody's
Speaker 6: bracket is busted, no matter what so I want to
Speaker 6: know one on the men's and the women's side, And
Speaker 6: it's pretty easy if you just say the final four
Speaker 6: teams that will ultimately be vying for the national championship,
Speaker 6: and then it's dumb down to two. You can have
Speaker 6: a prediction if you want. It's up to you. I
Speaker 6: I don't mind. But Bakari, did you submit? Because I
Speaker 6: know you.
Speaker 4: I know you didn't do his homework.
Speaker 6: He didn't do his homework. He can guess though, right
Speaker 6: he said, he said, give me your final four on
Speaker 6: the men's side, we'll start there, unless you want to
Speaker 6: go on the women's first.
Speaker 2: No, we I want to save the women's but I
Speaker 2: can do the men's because my final four is busted.
Speaker 2: Just the f y I have climb because I had.
Speaker 2: I have Florida going back to back and winning national
Speaker 2: championship on the men's side, but on the man I
Speaker 2: have Michigan, Arizona, Houston and Yukon uh, South Carolina huh.
Speaker 2: And on the midside, no, and then I have Arizona
Speaker 2: winning it all. I think Arizona has been the best
Speaker 2: team all year.
Speaker 4: That's fair, okay.
Speaker 6: And then on the so on a women's side, you
Speaker 6: want to do it.
Speaker 2: That on the women's side. On the women's side, the
Speaker 2: final four is gonna be amazing. I think South Carolina
Speaker 2: has to go through ukon next Friday if we do it,
Speaker 2: we're supposed to do this weekend in Sacramento. And then
Speaker 2: on the other side, I think you have l s
Speaker 2: U and Texas. The LSU beat U C l A,
Speaker 2: And I think L s U and Texas and I
Speaker 2: think I think LSU have they beaten Texas this year,
Speaker 2: So I think LSU wins that game. And I think
Speaker 2: South Carolina beat you, Khan, and I think you have
Speaker 2: a l s U South Carolina matchup in the National Championship,
Speaker 2: the highest rated TV women's basketball in the history of
Speaker 2: all things, all things, and we beat l Shit.
Speaker 6: He's doing emotion, that's all emotion. You go emotional, that's all.
Speaker 2: Why is that emotion? Give me some give me some
Speaker 2: locker room material.
Speaker 6: First of all, I'm going to tell you I think
Speaker 6: LSU is going to lose a duke. I think Caro
Speaker 6: losson and when he's doing that duke is something special.
Speaker 6: You got to watch that game for a lot of
Speaker 6: different reasons. And I think and also Flaje, who who Well.
Speaker 4: Now you better do your bracket care a.
Speaker 6: Minute, You're right, okay. I just think they're going to
Speaker 6: I'm going with the men's side really quickly. So I
Speaker 6: got and this is just truly my and I and
Speaker 6: I'm doing this because on the men's my men are out.
Speaker 6: I went to U c l A so in Michigan
Speaker 6: and Michigan State Houston, Arizona, Michigan. Those will be the
Speaker 6: final four. And in the big game, I'm going with
Speaker 6: Michigan State in Arizona, and I think Bakari is right.
Speaker 6: I think Arizona's gonna win it all. That's on the
Speaker 6: men's side. On the women's side, I'm clearly going to
Speaker 6: go with my team U c l A Texas. And
Speaker 6: then on the other side, we're gonna have Ukon c
Speaker 6: and I think at the end of the day it'll
Speaker 6: be Yukon U c l A and U c l
Speaker 6: A won it all. Let's go Bruins, get them fours
Speaker 6: up and no, at least I got Yukon making it.
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, I mean they are dominant, they
Speaker 6: haven't lost all year.
Speaker 4: Andrew bracket, Nope, I want you to go, no problem.
Speaker 4: Andrew's last all right.
Speaker 3: So for my men's bracket, I have Duke in Michigan
Speaker 3: and then Arizona and Purdue. I have Michigan and Arizona
Speaker 3: and the championship Arizona winning at all.
Speaker 4: For the women, I have.
Speaker 2: Three Arizonas, three Arizona.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know, I was like, dang, y'all saw my answers,
Speaker 3: but maybe we just let the stats do that.
Speaker 4: Okay. For the women's I have Virginia and Yukon and
Speaker 4: then South Carolina u C LA carry and then.
Speaker 3: I have you know, I gotta have some West Coast
Speaker 3: come on, and then the championship game. I have South Carolina, Yukon.
Speaker 3: I have South Carolina with Don Staley winning it out.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, well, since I.
Speaker 4: Have a click click, I promise.
Speaker 3: I know we've running out of the mini pot, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to play this because I think that money
Speaker 3: makes the world go around, and apparently it does with basketball.
Speaker 3: To Alexis o'hannian, that's how you say that man's last name, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: he gave a significant donation to Virginia women's basketball.
Speaker 4: And I want to run this clip really quick.
Speaker 14: I called up, I said, hey, I want to I
Speaker 14: want to make you via a contender, let me know
Speaker 14: what to do, and so very grateful to be a
Speaker 14: big donor there the women's basketball program. I think, look,
Speaker 14: what is undeniable here is you're seeing this professionalization of
Speaker 14: sports at so many different levels in college. I think
Speaker 14: it will be a net positive. It has already been
Speaker 14: a positive in women's sports because the free market doesn't
Speaker 14: care about your feelings. The free market just wants to
Speaker 14: put dollars to where it thinks it can generate value.
Speaker 14: And when you have, for instance, women of basketball in
Speaker 14: college making millions of dollars, my friend Flage Johnson, she
Speaker 14: stayed an extra year at LSU because she was getting paid.
Speaker 2: So well, there, God blessed. That's amazing.
Speaker 14: And again, it doesn't happen because of feminism. It doesn't
Speaker 14: happen because of social issues. It happens because the free
Speaker 14: market is saying you and your following are so worth it,
Speaker 14: I need to give you money in exchange for your audience.
Speaker 3: I just wanted the part where he 're clear that
Speaker 3: he's invested into University of Virginia with Virginia's women's basketball program,
Speaker 3: and it did make a difference, and that's why they're
Speaker 3: in my final four Andrew Guild.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, like I said, I'm dutiful in my assignments,
Speaker 1: except I fell off on this one. So I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna decide which if you had the best bracket in
Speaker 1: the one that I think is going to go all
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: Hell for not miss missing a production.
Speaker 4: That's the smart complete But she threw you off on
Speaker 4: U C l A. That's the only place to bring it.
Speaker 4: That is gonna They're gonna be in the four. I
Speaker 4: don't know about that.
Speaker 6: They will be in the four. And then this is
Speaker 6: let me tell you, let me tell you the best.
Speaker 6: What people are betting on and what neither of us
Speaker 6: said is everyone thinks Texas is actually gonna upset Yukon.
Speaker 6: That's that's where the betting money is right now. Because
Speaker 6: Texas been that would.
Speaker 2: Be in the national championship. That would be in the championship.
Speaker 6: I would be a national Championship's what people are saying.
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, South Carolina to go.
Speaker 2: But listen, we're going.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: Speaking of basketball, the NBA has decided that you know,
Speaker 3: they're going to take a hard look at Vegas and Seattle.
Speaker 4: So I might get my son.
Speaker 2: You're gonna You're gonna have the fire anyway, don't you?
Speaker 4: Ain't she the fire?
Speaker 6: The new they have Seattle storm, which is already there, set,
Speaker 6: already there fire fire.
Speaker 2: Maybe I missed up maybe as somebody else.
Speaker 1: Of me being on fire and fire. I want to
Speaker 1: invite you guys, is uh, what are your what are
Speaker 1: your ct as? What do you want people to know?
Speaker 2: Things?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 12: Uh?
Speaker 1: As we as we wrap this episode, and by the way,
Speaker 1: before y'all start those, I want to invite everybody to
Speaker 1: please join our mini pod on Friday. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: having a little conversation about what age is too young
Speaker 1: or too old to be dating?
Speaker 4: You know nothing but another?
Speaker 1: So here is debate the question.
Speaker 2: Who cares about truth?
Speaker 15: In the last morning?
Speaker 4: Seen it.
Speaker 1: Carry? You're our guests and amazing guess you've been what's
Speaker 1: your CIA?
Speaker 6: First of all, I'm so grateful that I get an
Speaker 6: opportunity to sit with your change makers and what I
Speaker 6: have what the call to action will be based, especially
Speaker 6: on this conversation today. It's let's add some urgency to
Speaker 6: making sure we understand what's going on in the world today.
Speaker 6: I need you to be urgent. I need you to
Speaker 6: talk about this like you need it for rent money,
Speaker 6: like you needed to keep your lights on. I need
Speaker 6: you to share this information with your friends with a
Speaker 6: sense of urgency, because there is it's so easy to
Speaker 6: get caught up to your point in the day to day.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to make ends meet. But at the same time,
Speaker 6: we need to be nuanced. We need to be we
Speaker 6: need to be a multi hyphenate. We need to be
Speaker 6: able to be aware of everything that is going on.
Speaker 6: We can't escape this. I can't turn on Paradise and
Speaker 6: watch the entire season one and season two and enjoy
Speaker 6: myself like I like to do. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I'm asking people to be urgent because it is important,
Speaker 6: it is necessary, it is needed, and I don't want
Speaker 6: to be I don't want to feel I feel guilty
Speaker 6: for feeling hopeless and helpless because there is an answer.
Speaker 6: We've seen this done before, there is a blueprint. But
Speaker 6: my call to action is urgency.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you be what you got.
Speaker 2: Want people to run for office?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 2: I mean I think the Carrier struck a chord today
Speaker 2: when she talked about the lack of moral fiber and
Speaker 2: character of the people who are representing us right now,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people feel some contempt for Democrats,
Speaker 2: maybe not having that same issue of a lack of
Speaker 2: uh moral character or fiber, but just a lack of
Speaker 2: or courage on our side. So I want more good
Speaker 2: people to run for office, and don't run for office
Speaker 2: thinking that you're gonna lose a race and end up
Speaker 2: on TV, or that you're gonna that you're gonna end
Speaker 2: up with people. People. People think that they're gonna run
Speaker 2: for office just so that they, you know, can improve
Speaker 2: their lot in life. But I want people to run
Speaker 2: for office because they believe not in politics, but they
Speaker 2: believe in public service.
Speaker 1: Perceive that what you got now, how you do it.
Speaker 2: That's how you do it? Are it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: You know because I eat that. I hate that. That's
Speaker 2: an etymology for it. That's eight that you go.
Speaker 4: Man, Is you finished? There? Is you done?
Speaker 2: Done?
Speaker 4: Is you finishing? Okay?
Speaker 3: So mine is And I'm sorry because it's a little
Speaker 3: more somber. I learned yesterday that a good friend of
Speaker 3: mine from high school, Aqua Jamal you Moorn, was killed
Speaker 3: tragically in a motorcycle accident in Dallas, UH this past weekend,
Speaker 3: and he's forty five years old, and so my my
Speaker 3: call to action is twofold.
Speaker 4: Please stay off these motorcycles. Please.
Speaker 3: I know that a lot of people find a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, find it enjoyable, the need for speed,
Speaker 3: all of that, but y'all, I know too many people
Speaker 3: close to me who have been tragically hurt or killed.
Speaker 4: In motorcycle accidents. Just stay off of them.
Speaker 3: I know I'm get hail raised from all the people
Speaker 3: that like the bikes, but I just please, y'all. My
Speaker 3: other peace is to enjoy every single day like it's
Speaker 3: your last, you know. Again, watching my mom battle cancer,
Speaker 3: losing loved ones, it just deepens you into the preciousness
Speaker 3: of each and every single day. Taking that moment to
Speaker 3: ask someone you love how they are doing and really
Speaker 3: waiting to hear their answer is so important, and so
Speaker 3: I would ask you all to cherish the days you
Speaker 3: spend and cherish your loved ones on each day.
Speaker 4: Jamal, rest in power.
Speaker 1: Love that I'm sorry for your loss. Sorry, And to
Speaker 1: the family, of course, my CTA, y'all is one starting
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