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Speaker 4: She literally sent him a.

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Speaker 5: Cold damn like, can you agent yet?

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Speaker 6: How many times guys shoot their shot at you, like

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Speaker 1: You're talking about quarterbacks, and like Burrow comes up and

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Speaker 2: He looks like becaue covid. I know what, Evan, You've

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Speaker 5: You know, that's your job. I just do the words.

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Speaker 2: I was going through the wide receivers and there's a kid,

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Speaker 1: The question I would do man, I would do Mayo

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know how he does all that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Evan, you put together a book, a mini

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Speaker 2: You have to start getting them all the template done

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Speaker 1: The great thing about that is that they have all

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Speaker 2: Like when you get interested in a guy, you still

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Speaker 2: You know, well I have heard that, like you know,

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Speaker 2: That doesn't include you know, you can go to as

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, well you're drafting maybe ten guys, I mean

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Speaker 2: And there's the misinformation, the whole smoke screen thing. You know,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, but just reading the Tee Lea's of

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Speaker 2: I think one of the imagine that though, if you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're training your current quarterback at that point.

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Speaker 2: Oh you think so?

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Speaker 2: You don't have the competition of competitions in camp.

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Speaker 5: No, I think that's a waste of assets to have

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Speaker 1: I mean he isn't exactly opposite of Mac Jones, but

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Will Evis could start right away. I

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Speaker 2: So I mean, well, the guy like that, if you

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Speaker 5: That's the biggest thing for me and the hardest part

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Speaker 5: But I think the biggest thing that stands out to me,

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Speaker 5: That's fi like you can train mechanics, you can train

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Speaker 2: The unbelievable It's a little bit like Garoppolo, but even stronger,

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Speaker 5: I'm glad I did it because I was sold, Like,

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Speaker 5: I felt a lot better about his valuation because going

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Speaker 5: watching Zach Wilson two point zero and it really wasn't

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Speaker 2: Was interesting, okay, but I will.

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Speaker 5: Say this, the best cut, the worst cupt secret right

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Speaker 5: And I can imagine that the people in that building

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Speaker 2: So you'd think including Richardson all four go before the fourteen.

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Speaker 5: I would assume. So I think Richardson is way too

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Speaker 2: Okay, a very interesting There's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 2: So I can't wait for that. It's always you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Uh And I think the Patriots pick

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Speaker 2: If they stay at.

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Speaker 5: Fourteen, right, it'll be closer to midnight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah on Friday.

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Speaker 5: Well yeah, what do we do if they trade out altogether?

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Speaker 2: We just keep going just power We just power through

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Speaker 5: I'm just messing they're not going to trade out from

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Speaker 1: Exciting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh so that's there's some you know, get

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Speaker 5: There's a two Starbucks kind of day.

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Speaker 1: because kind of COVID we were coming out of that

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Speaker 1: whole thing, but just having Mac on the field and

440
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, just that renew kind of excitement. That's what

441
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for, that that they make a kind of

442
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,919
Speaker 1: pick that has that kind of energy about it and

443
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,679
Speaker 1: we can get on the field, you know, beautiful day

444
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,400
Speaker 1: and get him out of here, get them in here,

445
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,439
Speaker 1: you know, to chat them up a little bit. But

446
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,720
Speaker 1: I think that's what's really exciting. You know, you get

447
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,280
Speaker 1: to this point, all these NFL teams, you get these

448
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,000
Speaker 1: new players, and there should at least be some hope.

449
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: I know that we'll have callers that are like, but

450
00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 1: this is what it's all about, getting these young kids

451
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 1: in and remaking the team. So it's it's exciting. I

452
00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 1: can't believe that how quickly it seems to go. Now.

453
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,320
Speaker 1: It's just like the off season starts and you're like boom,

454
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Speaker 1: Combine owners meeting and here we are draft.

455
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Speaker 2: Okay, so anything else going on? You know, last show

456
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Speaker 2: on Tuesday, you know, the Jalen Hurts deal had been announced,

457
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: and you know that was really interesting, and OBJ went

458
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Speaker 2: to the Ravens, and everyone just assumes that because of that,

459
00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 2: Lamar will eventually be going back. You know, have we

460
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 2: heard anymore on the Lamar Jackson front.

461
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Speaker 1: It's been getting quiet, right, And I feel like this, Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with that. I just I feel

463
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Speaker 1: like we've entered a little bit of a void here

464
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Speaker 1: and I wonder if early next week Tuesday, Wednesday, we

465
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Speaker 1: might get I think, what was it two years ago

466
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 1: was when that was, like when Gronk got traded, Like, yeah,

467
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: was that even in the hours leading up to the draft?

468
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Speaker 1: I remember that. So we have a weird little period

469
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: here where it seems like I mean, I think Evan

470
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Speaker 1: with the Colts and that that whole thing with Levis

471
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Speaker 1: that's been one of the rumors.

472
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Speaker 5: But otherwise it's been it's been pretty quiet. Well, I

473
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 5: think the big thing is right now is down the

474
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Speaker 5: hall here and in every other facility in the NFL.

475
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 5: This is when you really finalize your board. So until

476
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Speaker 5: you set your board, trading upper back or down or

477
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 5: whatever in the draft, you're not gonna you're trading up

478
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Speaker 5: or down for specific player in mind right to get

479
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 5: in arranged to draft a specific player. So until you

480
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: finalize the board, then teams don't really know one hundred

481
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Speaker 5: percent what they're trading up for, right So I think

482
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 5: that that's the big thing right now is trying to

483
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Speaker 5: figure out that. And I would also say, like different

484
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Speaker 5: they do mock drafts, like not on the PFF simulator

485
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 5: like all of us casuals do, but they do mock

486
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 5: drafts to simulate different scenarios. And I think that that's

487
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 5: where Will Levis comes into play, where it's like, if

488
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Speaker 5: we're adding the clock on fourteen and he's there, still,

489
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: what are we doing? Are we taking him or are

490
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Speaker 5: we not taking him? And I think that's the type

491
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 5: of the discussions that go on right now is Okay,

492
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Speaker 5: we're this is our board. Now, okay, now this is

493
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 5: our board. Now this is our board, and we have

494
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 5: this team calling, you know, offering this package to trade down,

495
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 5: and you try to figure out exactly what you want

496
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Speaker 5: to do.

497
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Speaker 2: You know, and like like Kevin said, you know, you're

498
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: finalizing your board now, but in terms of like trading up,

499
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 2: like you said, you're trading up for a particular player.

500
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Speaker 2: But unless it's like unless you're trading up to the

501
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: top three in the drop. You have no idea of

502
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: how the board's going to unfold in front of you.

503
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 2: And I think that's the one thing that people don't understand.

504
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 2: Why can't they just like say that they're interested in

505
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 2: a certain guy or a certain position, or you know,

506
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 2: like why don't they know? Why don't they know? They

507
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: honestly don't know. When Bill Belichick says I have no

508
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: idea who we're gonna draft, he's he knows who they like, obviously,

509
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: but you have no idea what's gonna happen in front

510
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: of you. And that changes everything. Yeah, you know, you

511
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: don't have control of that, and and uh, you know,

512
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: and even with trades, well just trade up, Well it

513
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: takes two people to trade, you know. It's so it's

514
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 2: it's not as easy as people think it is now.

515
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Speaker 1: But I think that there are also calls going on

516
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: right now of you know, hey six overall, what would

517
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: you think here? Who do you like? You know, those

518
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: kind of like feel out calls, which you know then

519
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: it's going to be next week, you know, the Patriots

520
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: have make calls about trading up, which I just I

521
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: feel like every team should make a call see who

522
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 1: got what teams, you know, four or five six spots

523
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: ahead of you. Who are they looking for? What would

524
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 1: it take? You know, those kind of things. You have

525
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: those in place. To Evan's point, if it starts to

526
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: evolve and you're like, all right, maybe we got to

527
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: make a move here, you already have some roundwork laid of. Hey,

528
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: we know we could probably get to this spot and

529
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: this is probably what we would have to give up.

530
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: Hope.

531
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Speaker 1: I hope they're going to be aggressive like that. I

532
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: mean I think that's we've talked a little bit about it.

533
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a trade up kind of

534
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: a draft, but maybe you trade down and then you're

535
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: and then you're talking about trading up like they did

536
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: with Barmore. You know, the being aggressive more in the

537
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: second round. Yep, that's the biggest thing I've just taken

538
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: away from. You know, you make that pick at fourteen,

539
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: it's a long way to forty six, and you see

540
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: a lot of players that you really like go in

541
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 1: that range from fourteen to forty six, So it's you know,

542
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: can you fill that gap a little bit? And I

543
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: think everybody would pretty much be okay with Hey, we're

544
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: going to drop down to twenty twenty one, twenty two.

545
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: But you're going to pick up another pick somewhere in

546
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: that thirties, forties, maybe even early fifties, like that little

547
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: range in the second round to you know, really just

548
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: get a couple of these guys.

549
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 2: It's just fun to be active. And even Bill says it.

550
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you know, after each day you

551
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: restack your board, you know, and you want to be

552
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: in the action. You know, like if you have if

553
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: you don't have a pick in the fourth round, maybe

554
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 2: you do something to try to get that pick back,

555
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: just so that you're you're involved. You know, you're not

556
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 2: just watching the parade go by. And you know, if

557
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: you don't have a pick, there's no reason for people

558
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: to call you. But if you have assets, then you're

559
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: more in the mix. So this is all I mean.

560
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: I would really love to, you know, be in that

561
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: draft room on draft day, just to be in a

562
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: fly just to watch and not to even you know,

563
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: report on it. And I was lucky enough to do

564
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: that years ago, when Pete Carroll first came here. I

565
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: was able to sit in the draft room on draft

566
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: day and it was pretty cool. Now I wasn't back

567
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: then it was at the old Stadium, and where they

568
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: made the phone calls was a separate room, So I

569
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: was sitting in the room with like all the scouts

570
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,959
Speaker 2: and everybody, but like when they did the wheeling and dealing,

571
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,479
Speaker 2: that was in a separate room, so I didn't get

572
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 2: to overhear all of that, but it was pretty cool.

573
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: It was like big Cat like more like that year,

574
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: one of those.

575
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: Years, and it was his first year. And I remember

576
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: he came out and he looked at me and he's like,

577
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: what's he doing here?

578
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 5: Like he's fine, Yeah, I just I really do wonder

579
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 5: what those conversations are like for real, when if there

580
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 5: is disagreement about who they're gonna take, is it? At

581
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 5: that point, Macro lays down his sword and says, I

582
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 5: know that I'm not making the final call, and I've

583
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 5: said all I could possibly say. Or are there moments

584
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 5: of contention? I'm not saying that there definitely is. I'm

585
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 5: just saying, is there moments of contention where it's like,

586
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 5: you know, Bill's leaning towards this guy, but the scouting

587
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 5: staff is saying that guy, and like, how do you

588
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 5: kind of work that thing out? Because I think that

589
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 5: That's what all of us on the outside looking in

590
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 5: feel like it's happening right before our eyes sometimes, is

591
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 5: that Bill takes his guy when the board might have

592
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 5: been set a little bit differently by the scouting staff.

593
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: I gotta imagine that during the Rutgers years, when Schiano's

594
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: first stint at Rutgers, there was a lot of him

595
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: there he goes again, you know, like yeah, and I

596
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: can't imagine that that's just happened to be how their

597
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: board felt. You know, he was doing Chiano a solid

598
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: when he took all those guys, you know, I.

599
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Mean, you know, we do it the way we do it,

600
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: but even we get attached to guys or develop opinions

601
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: on guys, whether they're right or wrong. You imagine that

602
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: these scouts who do it professionally and do it year

603
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: round and have traveled to see these guys in person

604
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: multiple times, have maybe visited their families, I don't know,

605
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, talk to their coaches, like the amount of

606
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: work that they put into these prospects and the amount

607
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: of investment that they must have. To Evan's point, it's

608
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: it's fascinating because you imagine that there are whenever they

609
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: make a pick, there's going to be a cross section

610
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: of people will probably are pissed. Like there's probably a

611
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: few people that No, I didn't like that one. You know,

612
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: whether it's build taken over or not, there's always going

613
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: to be I think that kind of because even you

614
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: see it with us, like you know, the punditsary, I.

615
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: Get to imagine it's like you know, your former career.

616
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: You know, like when you debut a show. You've worked

617
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 2: all all these months and months on the show, the writing,

618
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: the directing, the acting, and then you actually see it

619
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: on the screen, you know, and that's what like draft days.

620
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: You've done all this work and now it manifests itself

621
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 2: into the picks that you actually make. You know.

622
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: Well, the funny thing about that is that you're totally right.

623
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's such a process, and I mean I

624
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: still don't know how anything actually makes it to the

625
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: air with how hard the process is at every step

626
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: of the way in entertainment, publishing it, or you know,

627
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: putting a TV show together. It's just everything is a war.

628
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: And then it premieres and you get those first numbers

629
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: of how it did, which you know is so much

630
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: more reflection of Okay, the team gets out there and

631
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 1: they play and maybe they lose, but it's not just

632
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: an entire reflection upon this one little thing.

633
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: And that was always so interesting. You know, how much

634
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 5: of your leading.

635
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: Did you hold? What was it like at the end, Well,

636
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: how did the show after you do those kind of things.

637
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: The immediate feedback you would get, Yeah, you know, we'll

638
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: get a little bit of it at OTAs, I guess

639
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: and kind of you know, get a little bit of

640
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: a sense. But it's it's hard unless we were talking upstairs. Yeah,

641
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: they get a receiver, you're gonna.

642
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 5: Be like, hey, OTAs, let's go.

643
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Let's see how the quickness is. You know, last year

644
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: with cold Strange, it was like, I don't know, he's

645
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: out there, right, he's a left guard? All right?

646
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 2: There it is.

647
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 5: We were also talking about them just being a little

648
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 5: bold in this draft, and I feel like that's something

649
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 5: that as much as I like a lot of the

650
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 5: tackles in this draft, it's not that that's a that's

651
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 5: a safe pick, right, that's to get it on the fairway,

652
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 5: you know, tires on a car. Like you like to say, dude,

653
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Speaker 5: like that's what that pick is. Where at this point

654
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Speaker 5: in the organization's rebuild. I feel like they need to

655
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: be a little bit bolder than that. Like I think

656
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: tackles and things like that are just you're not you're

657
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 5: not swinging the pendulum far enough, if that's what you're doing.

658
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Speaker 5: So I've really gravitated towards corner. I feel myself as

659
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 5: the days get closer, feeling like, all right, if they

660
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: can get a revis a Gilmore level guy that just

661
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: shuts down his assignment, how big that is for the

662
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Speaker 5: whole structure of the defense. And then obviously the receivers

663
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: like those are the two position is that it really

664
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Speaker 5: feels like that's a splash, that's something that's going to change,

665
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: potentially change, but it's bold. You know, there's a chance

666
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Speaker 5: that that receiver might be a bust. It's a chance

667
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: that Zay Flowers can't play. I don't think that, but

668
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: there's a chance, you know, And I think there's maybe

669
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Speaker 5: a little bit more of a chance at those spots.

670
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Speaker 5: And let's say tackle, Yeah, I.

671
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Speaker 2: Think corner is your safest impact pick. Wide receiver would

672
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Speaker 2: be your boldest impact pick, and then tackle is your

673
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: safest yeah pick.

674
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Speaker 1: And then I throw edge in there as like kind

675
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Speaker 1: of the dark horse, And to Evan's point, like, maybe

676
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Speaker 1: if you believe one of those edge guys is you know,

677
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Speaker 1: because you could probably theoretically get the second best guy

678
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Speaker 1: I would guess after Anderson, might you know, could possibly

679
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: be available that if you really feel like, hey, this

680
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: can be a game changing three down edge for us

681
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: and we know exactly where we could put them, then

682
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: I like that's one that will be a little bit

683
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: of a head scratcher for a second. But I think

684
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Speaker 1: after that you'd say, all right, well, if they really

685
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: believe that jo Don's getting a little old and wo

686
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Speaker 1: j is what he is, if we can get another

687
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: three down kind of I like that who can do

688
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: it all? Then I think that that could be worth

689
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: it two. But otherwise, one of those four positions, it

690
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: feels like if it's off outside of that beaten path,

691
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Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised.

692
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Speaker 5: If you want to get bold. And I've been kicking

693
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: this around since they've been meeting with all of these

694
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 5: edge rushers and bringing them in for visits, and if

695
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: they want to get me back on board, which is

696
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 5: the most important thing, right that's all that matter. If

697
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 5: you want to get me back on board and me

698
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: saying that they're playing chess again. You draft the best

699
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 5: available edge at fourteen, and then you package josh Uj

700
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Speaker 5: in a trade for a wide receiver, Like that's that's

701
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 5: like how you really go about that? In my opinion

702
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: level is that that's the four and D chess that

703
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: they used to play, right that they know that they're

704
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 5: not going to pay josh u j long term extension

705
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 5: because he is this one trick pony pass rusher. So

706
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 5: they go and they get Nolan Smith, or they draft

707
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 5: Tyree Wilson or Miles Murphy or one of these top

708
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 5: edge guys, and then by the end of day too,

709
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 5: you have Miles Murphy and Jerry Judy on the roster

710
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Speaker 5: with your first two picks in.

711
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Speaker 1: The draft, which is like versus Ouch or Ze Flowers,

712
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, like like exactly right.

713
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 5: Those are the types of things that I I with

714
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: them meeting with all these edge guys. I'm like, oh,

715
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 5: maybe if they do love one of these edge rushers

716
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 5: so much that they feel like they have to take

717
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 5: them at fourteen, maybe then j becomes a trade chip

718
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: that they can use because he is a valuable young player.

719
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 5: Like getting guys that can put up double digit sack

720
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 5: numbers in the league nowadays, is a valuable commodity, even

721
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 5: if he is just a pass rush type of play.

722
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he's not von Miller, but like

723
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: that role that Buffalo brought von Miller in. Like I

724
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: could see a team saying, he's not von Miller, but

725
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: this is, you know, that kind of guy. We could

726
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: come in and be that closer.

727
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: You can make the case that you know, had they

728
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: had von Miller not got hurt, they might have been, yeah,

729
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: going further than they did. All right, eight five to

730
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Speaker 2: five Pats five hundred is the Ace ticket Hutline web

731
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Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com. It's the email address. Let's

732
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: get to some of the listeners. We'll go to Dominique

733
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: in New York on the Ace ticket hut Line. What's up,

734
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 2: im an Ache?

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Speaker 4: Hey, how a y'all doing?

736
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Speaker 2: All right?

737
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Hey?

738
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Speaker 9: Good good.

739
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: You were mentioned a little bit earlier. We know Matt

740
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 4: Jones obviously is in Bill Belichick's favor right now, and

741
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: there might be intrigue at least in the draft to

742
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: look at different options. You were mentioning Will Levis, but

743
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 4: I was wondering and to kind of get your thoughts

744
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: and feels on this is. I know you have like

745
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 4: Ndon Hooker, who might go round three out of Tennessee,

746
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: a little bit older, but you know people are pretty

747
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 4: high on him. And then you have Adrian Thomas Roberts

748
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: Thompson Robinson out of U C l U C l A.

749
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Speaker 4: Do you think, I don't know, it's even worth maybe

750
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Speaker 4: even looking at and picking up one of those guys

751
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: with the later picks maybe or onward. Is it even

752
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: worth it just to look at something maybe in the

753
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: drafts opposed to externally, which I think is unlikely.

754
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I do said up plenty of times.

755
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: I just I think it's just good business. Thank you

756
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: would always you know, not every year, but I would

757
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: just about I would take a shot.

758
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 2: What do you think of the kid from Stanford McKee?

759
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, big, I thought Paul would

760
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: like him two blood though, but you know, kind of

761
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: a big throwback guy. I think dtr he mentioned him.

762
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's get somebody who's a little different, you know,

763
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: somebody who can who can provide value at least as

764
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: a practice squad member getting ready for all these mobile

765
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you have to see. So I'd like that

766
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: part of it. But you know, Jake Hayner was a

767
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: guy that won the Senior Bowl. You know, m v P.

768
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 5: Scrappy, you know, little scrappy guys.

769
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: But just not unprecedented that the Patriots have four quarterbacks

770
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 2: on the roster. They've done it.

771
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: Before now And I mean ZAPPI, I mean, who knows

772
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: what what the guy they just they brought in, they draft.

773
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Speaker 5: The quarterback with the high picked, then they're just gonna

774
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: cut mcsorly the next day. Yeah, like that, I don't

775
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: even think it's worth bring mc sorely to camp at

776
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: that point.

777
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: But he's kind of a mobile guy, right, Like, Yeah,

778
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: that's like.

779
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 5: The one thing he's good at is he can run

780
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 5: around a little bit. But uh, with Hooker, Hooker is

781
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 5: the third round. Like he's gone well before the third round.

782
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 5: He's gonna be a top fifty pick in the draft.

783
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 5: But I'm not sold on Hooker at all. I think

784
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 5: that he's a player that a just tours ACL in November,

785
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: so he's out for his entire rookie season and he's

786
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 5: got a long way to go. That Tennessee offense is

787
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 5: very gimmicky. It's very it's a spread offense. They run

788
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 5: a bunch of different, unique, very very unnfl like things.

789
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: Their progressions are really just one read in a progression

790
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: or in the balls out, so he's not reading the

791
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 5: full field. He's coming from a weird offense. They play

792
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: with a ton of tempo, a ton of spacing, things

793
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 5: like that. And he's twenty five years old and he's

794
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: coming off of torn acl So I just think there's

795
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 5: a lot of things against that pick to me that

796
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 5: I just don't really make much sense of it. I

797
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 5: think he could have a chance to sneak into the

798
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 5: end of the first round. You know, he's somebody that

799
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 5: has the raw physical tools that somebody could convince themselves

800
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 5: that he's the next Jalen Hurts or the next one

801
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: of those types of guys I like DTR. I think

802
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: that he's more of a of a dart throw. At

803
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 5: the end of the draft, I compared him to Tyrod

804
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 5: Taylor when we did quarterback, So I think that there's

805
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 5: a little bit of a value there. But I'm not

806
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 5: a big hooker guy.

807
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Patty and Ago on. What's up?

808
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: Patty Loo's up? Guys?

809
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 8: Hold on, let me take you out boluetub real quick.

810
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 7: And expect to get picked up so quickly. So when

811
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 7: I say, I'm kind of with you, Evan, I want

812
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 7: to see them be a little bit aggressive. You know,

813
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 7: if let's say at twelve, if Christiana Zalez is there

814
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 7: and you know the Texans aren't going to be taking

815
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 7: another cornerback. I mean, and if you've really liked the guy,

816
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 7: why not move up and take them and another guy

817
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 7: that's really intriguing the more time goes by, is man.

818
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 7: I think Darnel Washington would would be a real great

819
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 7: fit in this offense because, like you guys have said,

820
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 7: they don't have that kind of player on the team

821
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 7: right now, Like this big mauling blocking tight end that

822
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 7: has a lot of upside that could be a you know,

823
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 7: that could possibly potentially be a big receiving threat in

824
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 7: the passing game. Yeah, and I'm just excited. You know,

825
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 7: this is one of my favorite times a year. And Fred, Yeah,

826
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Speaker 7: the draft shows generally are our a plus every year.

827
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Speaker 2: That's good, thank you, And that's all I got. All right, thanks, Patty.

828
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: Very exciting. All right, let's see, let's get to some

829
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: of these emails, Tim writes in Our Friend from Duncan.

830
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: He says, for Evan, sounds like you're high on Will Levis,

831
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Speaker 2: So hypothetically, would you take Levis at fourteen if you

832
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Speaker 2: were able to get a second round pick for Mac.

833
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it myself, but curious what you would do.

834
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: I also agree that draft shows are a must listen

835
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: second round for Mac.

836
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: Huh, I'm gonna call. I'm gonna take a cop out, admittedly,

837
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: but I just don't know enough about Will Levis the

838
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 5: person to make that call.

839
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: Well, Barth just tweeted out that I guess he was

840
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: a training camp here and yeah, he's from Cannelly and

841
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: at four I didn't realize with some good pictures of

842
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: little Will Levi's here at camp.

843
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: Yeah he's from Connecticut.

844
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Speaker 1: We'arn a Brady Jersey.

845
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you're telling me that all of

846
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 5: the intangible stuff checks out. And he has a great interview,

847
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: and O'Brien's on board, and he's got that that factor.

848
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: You know.

849
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: I was listening to to Bill Pollion talk about their

850
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 5: meeting with Peyton Manning before the draft and in that draft,

851
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 5: and he said that Peyton told them if you draft me,

852
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 5: I'll see you the next day and Poleon said, well,

853
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 5: there's NFL rules that you can't you know, I think

854
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: it's five days after the draft that we can't bring

855
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: you in for workouts and for five days after the draft.

856
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: And Peyton said, figure it out, you know, I'll be

857
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 5: there the next day.

858
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: He's a rare breathe.

859
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: Right, And then there you also mentioned that Peyton. It

860
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: felt like Peyton was interviewing them, not the other way around.

861
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 5: And for a guy at the top of the draft

862
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 5: like that, you can understand you're going where you want

863
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 5: to go. Hey, this ain't about you know, anything else really,

864
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 5: and uh, it's like.

865
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Speaker 2: John Elway, I'm not going on the court, right.

866
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that Will Levice needs to be

867
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: like that wow me. But that type of mentality that

868
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Speaker 5: you know Brady had the same thing, that hunger and

869
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Speaker 5: that drive. If he's got that, then I would be

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Speaker 5: on board with taking him in the first night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna say it this way. I think

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00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: Mac deserves another year. I don't think that he got

873
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, a fair fair treatment last year. I think

874
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Speaker 1: that he is deserving of another chance this season. But

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Speaker 1: that said, if you don't believe that Mac Jones is

876
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Speaker 1: going to be the answer of taking down Josh Allen,

877
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you feel like, all right, well, we're

878
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Speaker 1: going to tread water for a few years with his kid,

879
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: and he'll be okay. He's not going to lose us

880
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: any games. He's probably not gonna win as many games too.

881
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: There's something that's appealing to me of saying, look like

882
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: we're stuck behind the bills right now, we have to

883
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of do something. But are we ever going to

884
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Speaker 1: get there?

885
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: With Mac?

886
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: I don't know.

887
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 2: A I agree with you that he deserves another year,

888
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 2: but I'm not getting a guy in the first round

889
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: unless I absolutely love him. It's not just because I

890
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: don't I don't have one hundred percent confidence in Mac.

891
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: It's because I can't miss on this guy. I gotta

892
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: get him. Short of that, I'm not wasting a first

893
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: round pick on a guy who's a maybe.

894
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: If this is another kind of middling season from Mac,

895
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: even with you know, with Bill O'Brien there, it still

896
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: kind of looks like maybe at best twenty twenty one.

897
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: I think next draft this would be a real conversation

898
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: for me of saying, look are we are We just

899
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: gonna try to make it happen with Mac or are

900
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: we gonna finally maybe just make a decision. Look, it

901
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: might it might blow up, It might blow up in

902
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: your face. You might not be able to get him

903
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: to be that Josh Allen guy. But at least you know, hey,

904
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: if this guy does happen to put it together, we

905
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: might really have something. We might actually compete with the Bengals.

906
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 1: And like I just I have a real hard time

907
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: right now imagining, no matter what you get around Mac,

908
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: that this offense is going to be able to be

909
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: on that level. You know, unless they find a dynamic

910
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: playmaker guy that just kind of changes things like Gronk.

911
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Did you know those kind of guys, it's just do

912
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: it alone.

913
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: I have a hard time thinking that they think that.

914
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: And if they don't, I think that if they don't

915
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 5: think that Mac can get them to where they need

916
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 5: to be to compete with the Bengals and the Bills

917
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: and the Chiefs and all these top teams in the AFC,

918
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: then every single day that goes by, you're just wasting time, right,

919
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 5: You're just spinning the wheel. And to me, that's why

920
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: you bring Will Evison. I would also say that maybe

921
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 5: they should be bringing in Anthony Richardson at this point

922
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: because one of those two guys is is gonna fall

923
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 5: within range. Like, I'm not saying that they're all gonna either.

924
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 5: One of them might fall away to the fourteen, but

925
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: somebody's getting picked at the end of the top ten, nine, ten, eleven,

926
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 5: somewhere in that range. I mean, Justin Fields was eleventh overall,

927
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 5: and it's probably a better prospect coming out than those

928
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 5: two guys. But if you really feel like Mac is

929
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: not it, then wasting more time on developing Mac is

930
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 5: a road to nowhere, right, And That's where I'm at

931
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 5: with it.

932
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like, I guess, you know, obviously they

933
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: know a hell of a lot more than we do

934
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: about Mac. But I can't believe believe that right now

935
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: they think he's not the guy. I gotta believe that

936
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: they think that if we get everything right he gets right,

937
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: we can win with him, you know, but we'll see

938
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: action speaks louder than words. Richard writes in about will Levis,

939
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: to quote Simon from early American idol, It's a note

940
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: from me. Will Levis has no drive and desire. He

941
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: didn't play in his team's bowl game in the Senior

942
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: Bowl for a guy from a small time football program,

943
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: he didn't take those opportunities to show his talent on

944
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: a big stage.

945
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean it's I mean one of the

946
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: things I liked about Mack was that he went right

947
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: after it, after his Alabama season ended, he went to

948
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl practice for a couple of days, had

949
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: two throwing days. I mean, I've always really admired those

950
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: things about him. But you know, to Evan's point, I

951
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: don't know enough about will Levis the guy if you're

952
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: willing to make that investment in him. But I think

953
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: next year a guy like Will Levis could possibly be

954
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a Maybe this is something

955
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: they should really consider.

956
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 5: Opting out of a bowl game is the least to

957
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 5: my worries when it comes to these things. I mean,

958
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigba basically just opted out of his

959
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 5: entire season last year. And I don't know if the

960
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 5: emailer is out on Jackson Smith and Jigba or a

961
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 5: couple of years ago when Jamar Chase opted out because

962
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 5: of COVID, like we don't like Jamar Chase now, or

963
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: how many guys just don't play in their bowl games, right,

964
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: I mean just that in itself too.

965
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that just who cares?

966
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you're playing for a national championship.

967
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: Right then the car's car friends stock.

968
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 5: Is Look I get it though. I mean, you know,

969
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 5: Bryce Young played in the Sugar Bowl and he tore

970
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 5: it up and killed Kansas State in that game. Was phenomenal.

971
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 5: So it can help your stock if you play good,

972
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: but it can also credit your stock if you play poorly, so.

973
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: You get hurt.

974
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: But there is something you know to be said about

975
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: the guy who accepts every challenge and every opportunity, and

976
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: you know.

977
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Thrives on competition. Se cell competition.

978
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael writes, and he doesn't say where he's from.

979
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: Eric would not like that. Why all of a sudden,

980
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: is there no need for a stand up linebacker? Bentley

981
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 2: is average? And who is the other starter? Any guys

982
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: in the draft? You like?

983
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 5: Bad draft for linebackers?

984
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I mean, as much as this

985
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: isn't going to be what you want to hear, I

986
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: think they're I think they're pretty set there. I mean

987
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I think they might maybe take a third day flyer,

988
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: camra Groan, probably a special teams type guy. But just

989
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: because it's not what we want is not doesn't mean

990
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: it's not what they want. I think they love Juwan

991
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Bentley or you know Mayo talk about him already. I

992
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: think they really like to Vay. I mean, I think

993
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I was surprised by Tavai mac Wilson, Ray Kwa McMillan.

994
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: I think that they're they're trying to develop this group

995
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: and they're trying to build some continuity with it. I

996
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: just don't see the need lining up as much as

997
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, a guy like Drew Sanders, I do think,

998
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, maybe in a perfect world would fit in

999
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: their defense and could be useful. And there's probably a

1000
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: few of those guys, but it doesn't move the needle

1001
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: enough for me overall on the defense, and I think

1002
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: they like what they have and how they're gonna do

1003
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: it with those guys, mixing them with all the strong

1004
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: safeties they have.

1005
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: Chad in Atlanta, I'm not sure if you talked about

1006
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: the Patriots will lives. You know, we just did talked

1007
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: about the visit. But even if the visit was for

1008
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 2: strategic purposes to check out a potential opponent, which I

1009
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: don't buy, it isn't a good look for Mac in

1010
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 2: my opinion, unless they let Mac know about the visit beforehand.

1011
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: Oh he's not a baby, Like, come on, this is

1012
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like, you can't. I mean, if they're having

1013
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: a call Mac Jones every time, they're even gonna like

1014
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: bring in a rookie quarterback to look at like he's

1015
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: not long for this this league.

1016
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: Well it is a little different though, because he's a

1017
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 2: He's a rookie quarterback projected to go in the first round.

1018
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: You know, if when Brady was here, they brought in

1019
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: a guy who was a first round talent, Brady wouldn't

1020
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: have liked that.

1021
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 1: I can tell you that in a good way.

1022
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't even like it when they drafted

1023
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: Garoppolo and he wasn't even first round.

1024
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: You know, I think Brady has earned the right to not.

1025
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: Lie absolutely, But I'm still saying that whether or not

1026
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 2: Mac has earned the right. Oh, man, I.

1027
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: Hope he can't.

1028
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: You can't you say you shouldn't feel a certain I'm hearing.

1029
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting Sophie now, Like, oh, Mac.

1030
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Did you see this? They got will Levi's coming in hock.

1031
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 5: This will outstand how she's in my impression I heard

1032
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: that sort of. That's it interesting.

1033
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: All right, We're going to take a break and we'll

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Speaker 2: come back. Caleb is gonna tell us why Evan is

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Speaker 14: Now great moments in.

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Speaker 2: History's let's hear what Pat Nagawam has to say about

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Speaker 2: the pick You're on the ace sticking outline, Pat, I

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Speaker 2: can't we have nice things?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Ed, I'm hitting up the river with a boat and

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Speaker 7: a pedal note pedals, and I'm handing them beat down?

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Speaker 1: There is it?

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Speaker 2: High?

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Speaker 1: Tide or low tide.

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Speaker 9: It's load tid, but you've gotta make sure you don't

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Speaker 9: want to run a ground in the river.

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Speaker 1: It's never been in a river.

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Speaker 2: He has no idea where tides, you fat head.

1201
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Speaker 15: No, I know they do, because I need to know

1202
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 15: whether it's tigh tide or low tide where I If

1203
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 15: it's low tide going going in the ocean. You don't

1204
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Speaker 15: know the difference between the river and ocean. And it's

1205
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 15: embarrassing for somebody who's different entire life. It's an embarrassing,

1206
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Speaker 15: idiot that you haven't own up as a rich kid

1207
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Speaker 15: on the cave and never learned anything about the water

1208
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Speaker 15: around you are. It is an embarrassing You should just

1209
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Speaker 15: go home.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Pat. About five minutes later, there.

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Speaker 2: Is a tide.

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Speaker 1: No, yes, there is.

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Speaker 2: There is no tide chart for the Quabbin River.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're an idiot, No, there's no.

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Speaker 15: I'm not the one saying blanket statements.

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Speaker 2: That are absolutely there's no tide chart for the bat

1218
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Speaker 2: and Kill River. I don't know where any of these

1219
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Speaker 2: rivers are there.

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Speaker 15: If they are close to the coastline, they all have

1221
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Speaker 15: massive tides. Three to four foot, three to four foot

1222
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Speaker 15: tides every six hours. All right, three to four foot

1223
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Speaker 15: tides every six hours. It changes a little less than

1224
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Speaker 15: an hour every day. I know how tides work. You

1225
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Speaker 15: need to know how tied.

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Speaker 2: Andy A river doesn't have a tide. You guys are morons.

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Speaker 2: This is unreal.

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Speaker 14: Whoa whoa?

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Speaker 5: Alright for something that's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Don't look at me.

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Speaker 1: I'm not involved in this whatsoever.

1232
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Speaker 14: I have no idea about like like, I've never I

1233
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Speaker 14: got myself up PEPSI like.

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Speaker 2: This is I did not drop in the US. We

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Speaker 2: drive on the left side of the street.

1236
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Speaker 5: No, we don't.

1237
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Speaker 2: Like there's facts.

1238
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Speaker 15: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: That's not why the draft shows are great. But yeah, hot,

1240
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Speaker 2: oh yeah yeah.

1241
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Speaker 1: Did something happened earlier on the show that got him

1242
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Speaker 1: triggered because it seems like he was ready.

1243
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Speaker 2: He thinks he knows everything the draft. I got it

1244
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Speaker 2: all right back here in Patriot's unfiltered eight five five

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Speaker 2: past five hundred is the ACE ticket hotline. Web radio

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Speaker 2: at patriots dot com is the email address. Caleb, who's

1247
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: from Knoxville, of course, says, as a Knoxville native, I've

1248
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Speaker 2: watched every snap of every football game under the current

1249
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Speaker 2: coach here at Tennessee. Evan is hands down incorrect about

1250
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Speaker 2: Tennessee's offense having no progressions and receivers running nothing but

1251
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Speaker 2: go routes. Every receiver on Tennessee's offense has three plus routes.

1252
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Speaker 2: They always have the option to run based on the defense.

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Speaker 2: Hooker was touted as being one of the best decision

1254
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Speaker 2: makers in the nation last year due to all the

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Speaker 2: progressions he has to make every play. I really don't

1256
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Speaker 2: understand how having your quarterback make multiple decisions through their

1257
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Speaker 2: progressions every play is gimmicky.

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Speaker 5: Cause that okay, that just couldn't be more further from

1259
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Speaker 5: the truth. Well, he watches every game that I think

1260
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Speaker 5: the biggest thing is is that like people associate progressions

1261
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Speaker 5: and decision making with interceptions, like if guys don't have

1262
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Speaker 5: big interceptions numbers, that means that they are these really,

1263
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Speaker 5: really good field processors and things like that, which Hooker is.

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Speaker 5: That's fair. Hooker doesn't throw many picks and he doesn't

1265
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Speaker 5: put the ball up for grabs. They have three routes

1266
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Speaker 5: that they could run on an on any play. They

1267
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 5: have conversions on their vertical routes, So if they have

1268
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 5: a conversion at the top of the break at about

1269
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 5: twelve to fifteen yards where they make a decision. Am

1270
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 5: I going to run a post? Am I going to

1271
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 5: run a goa? Am I going to run a corner

1272
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 5: or a fade or something like that based off the defense.

1273
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: But it's all vertical routes right, whatever way you slice it.

1274
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: I don't even think I ever mentioned go routes. But

1275
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 5: whatever way you slice it, you're running a vertical some way,

1276
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: shape or form. So their offense is the nature of

1277
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 5: their offense is not a full field progression offense, and

1278
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: the route conversions that they run or are just vertical

1279
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 5: rout conversions that pretty much every team has in their playbook.

1280
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 5: Thank you for the email, though.

1281
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: You go, Caleb, I don't know. I got a feeling

1282
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: we're going to get another call or email from Kleb.

1283
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: But uh, let's go to the Ace ticket upline. Chris

1284
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: is in Scottsdale. What's up, Chris?

1285
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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, how you going good?

1286
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Speaker 2: Good good?

1287
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 8: I joined the show a little bit late today and

1288
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 8: heard about the Will Levis You know snippet of the

1289
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 8: Will Levis discussion. Is he coming in for a visit

1290
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 8: or something.

1291
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: According to the report. According to the report.

1292
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Speaker 8: Got you, got you.

1293
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him, but.

1294
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Speaker 8: You know, if I have an opinion so much on that,

1295
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Speaker 8: I don't think that. I think that's just due diligence.

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00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 8: I don't think we'll be drafted him or anything. I

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,959
Speaker 8: wouldn't mind drafting him over Jones for sure.

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Speaker 2: But why do you say that?

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00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 8: Just why do I say that? I think it's a

1300
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 8: draft now?

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00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: Why why do you say you would you'd like to

1302
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: draft him? Why do you say that?

1303
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 8: Because I just think that he has more potential than

1304
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 8: Jones in terms of physical ability. Uh, he's more to

1305
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 8: you know, match the NFL game today, Fred, you know,

1306
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 8: compared to Jones being sort of the immobile, not that

1307
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 8: he can't move what the lever, but again he's he's

1308
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 8: in line with with sort of yesteryear in my opinion,

1309
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 8: you know, reading due and if you're not going to

1310
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 8: do that well and if you don't have enough strength

1311
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 8: behind your throws to squeeze it into the windows in

1312
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 8: the NFL, you're you're really limited, right, I mean, I

1313
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 8: don't even think that's arguable.

1314
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're looking at that high ceiling and right, right,

1315
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: all right.

1316
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 8: And I have an off season question. So who's there today?

1317
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 8: Who's on the panel today?

1318
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 2: It's just Deuce, Evan and myself.

1319
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 16: Okay, so this is produce. Deuce has our Hollywood correspondent,

1320
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 16: so to speak. Why do you what happened with with

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00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 16: the old show The Office that used to be one

1322
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 16: of my favorite shows. Do you think that they disbanded

1323
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 16: and split that up because of like movie career opportunities

1324
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 16: and they just couldn't stay cohesive or did it just

1325
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 16: have its run or you know what's your thought?

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 8: Oh?

1327
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it just had its run. I mean

1328
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: it went a while, right.

1329
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get the ten seasons.

1330
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get the ten seasons.

1331
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 5: I don't think there's you're asking for much more.

1332
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Nine seasons. Yeah, that's Ten's usually the magic number when

1333
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: when all the producers then make all their money and

1334
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: in selling the shows off into syndication, which is that's

1335
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: where the big bucks are.

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01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 17: But were you show yourself?

1337
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 8: Oh?

1338
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of the show, and I

1339
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: mean I I you know, not to be all this,

1340
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: but I love the British version first, which was what

1341
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, Ricky Gervais did, which was brilliant. And then

1342
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: when I heard that they were making the remake of this.

1343
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was just maybe my first

1344
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: or second year working for the production company, but I

1345
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: wanted to get on the show so bad. I love

1346
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: the mockumentary style, like going back to spinal tape, Like

1347
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: I've just always loved that that style, and I was,

1348
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: I was desperate to try to get on that show.

1349
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I tried hard enough obviously, But yeah,

1350
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: my son's watching it now, so every morning it's on

1351
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: our TV, so I get to relive all of them.

1352
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: But I think they should have had one show because obviously,

1353
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 2: like the premise of the show is like someone's filming them,

1354
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 2: you know, like do a show about the crew that

1355
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: was filming them, Like, like what they think of this

1356
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: office that they were assigned to to cover for ninety.

1357
01:00:58,800 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: Less season of the show?

1358
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: What pretty much less they did that they did?

1359
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 5: It incorporated him at the end, they actually did.

1360
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I watched the last season. I think

1361
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: I always kind of like the mystery. You didn't even

1362
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: know what they were actually shooting.

1363
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 8: Remember remember the and and again. Because it's off season,

1364
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 8: we had the latitude.

1365
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 18: To talk about something like this.

1366
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 8: But but well, you know, do so, and I'll get

1367
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 8: off the line here so that we can keep moving.

1368
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 8: But remember duc and you can tell part about this

1369
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 8: or or we could share this together. They had that last,

1370
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 8: well one of the last episodes where Pam was attacked

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01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 8: by the guy that ruined her mural with painting butts

1372
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 8: on her mural. Uh and and the the camera guy

1373
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 8: like saved her from because she painted his trunk over

1374
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 8: like to vandalize this truck.

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01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 1: In response, I was out of the show.

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01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: I saw that one. I don't think I saw the

1377
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: last because I think it kind of jumped the shark

1378
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: a little bit.

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01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 9: For me.

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01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 2: It is for me, yeah, yeah, yeah, with.

1381
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 8: Like Will Ferrell and all.

1382
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that came, I know it all.

1383
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: That's why.

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, they for indulging me on the off season snippet.

1385
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 2: There no problem.

1386
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you guys enjoyed the show off force. Paul's

1387
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 8: missed whenever he's not there.

1388
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: So all right, thanks Chris.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow, I love the the British version so much.

1390
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 5: The big Hollywood's over there, like, dude's got to remind

1391
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 5: me of the British. I like the American version better,

1392
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 5: the purest.

1393
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: No, the American version did end up being better. The

1394
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: pilot was a total rip off of just what the

1395
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: BBC version was, but it's uh, the guy who was

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01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: Dwight is this character Gareth that is just his own unique,

1397
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: weird brilliance as well. But a lot of it, a

1398
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of it is very similar. But it's a great show.

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01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 5: Also, Pam's the worst. Pam's like Pam, Pam is the worst.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really care all that much either.

1401
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: Pam is honestly, hands down one of the worst like

1402
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 5: TV characters in terms of, like if you actually look

1403
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 5: at her story arc and how much of an a

1404
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 5: hole she is to everybody in her life, like she's

1405
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 5: She's just not you know. It's one of those things

1406
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 5: were like, She's supposed to be this sweet, you know, secretary,

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01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 5: nice girl, and then you actually, like so you were

1408
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 5: engaged and then you clearly were cheating on your husband

1409
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 5: to be.

1410
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: With Motions with the new guy, and then.

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: You know, you threw him away to go to art

1412
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 5: school for like a year. I know, I like this.

1413
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: I like the Evan.

1414
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: I think he really likes the problem.

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01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 5: The first girl that Jim was with before Pam.

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01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh uh yeah, yeah, you know, Casey Jo and Brashida Jones.

1417
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and like breaks that relationship up when he

1418
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 5: was actually happy with Rashida Jones. But just you know,

1419
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: Pam's got to get hers, so breaks that relationship up.

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01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this to my son today. See

1421
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: what he thinks about this, since he's in the thick

1422
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: of the office right now.

1423
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pam is bitch. I'm bitch Chris and Virginia. My

1424
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: bull takes are there will not be a cornerback or

1425
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: a wide receiver in the first two days, and if

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01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: they don't make the playoffs next year, then Bill will

1427
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: not be the coach in twenty four ps. I love

1428
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: the Evan edition, especially this time of the year with

1429
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: the draft. So he's saying the Patriots will not pick

1430
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: a cornerback or wide receiver of rounds one, two, or three.

1431
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Speaker 1: I would I would be pretty bummed out about that.

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think those are two positions

1433
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: along with maybe tight end, that I feel like they

1434
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: can't miss out on in this draft, just for the

1435
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: long term needs. I mean, I guess I would listen

1436
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: to an argument with receiver. I wouldn't like it, but

1437
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, I could listen to the fact that, Hey,

1438
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a slot who's gonna come in

1439
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: here and be the guy right away? I guess. But

1440
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: if you don't get a cornerback on a tight end

1441
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: from this school, from this class, I think you're missing out.

1442
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 5: I agree.

1443
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: Alex and Charlotte had a quick question for Evan. We

1444
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: can agree tackle, cornerback, and wide receiver are the major

1445
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: needs this year, but edge and linebackers can be a

1446
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: secondary need later in the draft. I know Bill has

1447
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: been hesitant to add small or more athletic linebackers to

1448
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: the team, but a while back, Evan mentioned about how

1449
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: Bill in a way came up with the moneybacker position

1450
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: that we see Dugger play and occasionally as a hybrid

1451
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: safety linebacker. Could this be a way for Bill to

1452
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 2: flirt with the idea of having a smaller linebacker or

1453
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 2: have or dive deep down or is this diving too

1454
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: deep in the rabbit holes exactly?

1455
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 5: Well, I think that the problem is I should phrase

1456
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 5: it that way. I think that his argument is based

1457
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 5: off of his actions, is that he would rather give

1458
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 5: up that, let's say ten pounds in weight to have

1459
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 5: a more dynamic coverage player. So the higher, you know,

1460
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 5: the prototype at linebacker. Now the Fred Warner is the

1461
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 5: two thirty two thirty five linebacker that can cover and

1462
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 5: can move in space and things like that. I think

1463
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 5: Bill looks at that and says, would I rather have that?

1464
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 5: Or would I rather have Adrian Phillips, who is a

1465
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: coverage guy by instinct, you know, and by trade, instead

1466
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: of trying to make it happen with a linebacker who's

1467
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 5: a little bit heavier. That's why I think that they

1468
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 5: have all these safeties, Like I think that's why they

1469
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 5: have Dugger, and that's why they have Phillips, why they

1470
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 5: have Peppers, is because they feel like, well, we're giving

1471
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 5: up in a little bit of size is worth it

1472
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 5: because we're getting a more dynamic coverage player.

1473
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: The dialogue between Evan and Caleb continues. Caleb counters. He says,

1474
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: agree to disagree, Evan, You're absolutely correct about the variations

1475
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: of the deep routes to run. However, I hard disagree

1476
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 2: that they primarily run deep routes. Only Jalen Hyatt and

1477
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: Princeton Fant have some of the cleanest catches running a

1478
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: curl En route or slant in the middle. I never

1479
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 2: mentioned inter separ ratio with Hooker. I said he was

1480
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 2: touted as one of the best decision makers, which he was,

1481
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 2: But hey, I'm not the professional who watched two hours

1482
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 2: of film between Hooker, Hyatt, and Tillman. Just the guy

1483
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: who's seen every snap they've put on the field in

1484
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 2: the sec OK strenuously.

1485
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 5: Do me a favor, Go read Caleb about the Art

1486
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 5: Briles Baylor offense and the history of that offense and

1487
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 5: the progression res for quarterbacks and things like that, because

1488
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 5: that's the offense in Knoxville right now. It's the Baylor

1489
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 5: offense from yesteryear that lit up college football with Art

1490
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 5: Briles before all that went up in flames. So that's

1491
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 5: the offense that they're running. It's not a progression full

1492
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 5: field read offense. Just isn't like that at the core

1493
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 5: of it. It's that's just not what it is. They

1494
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 5: do run some quick game concepts. I'm not saying everything's

1495
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 5: a go route, and I don't even think I said

1496
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 5: go route. They do run some quick game concepts and

1497
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 5: some RPOs that I guess could lend themselves to some

1498
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 5: of those slants and ins and things like that that

1499
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: he's talking about. But the nature of the the art

1500
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 5: Briles Baylor offense is a one read type of offense,

1501
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 5: and that's that's a big concern that I have with Hooker.

1502
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 5: That's it. Thank you, Okay, thanks for the emails.

1503
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: There you go. Claire Rights in Hello everyone, Hello Marine,

1504
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: Hello Marine. I have no question, but I'm just writing

1505
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 2: to ask if you guys would please please give a

1506
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 2: show out to my buddy Hutter. It's from Manchester. He's

1507
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: a huge fan of the show. But you already know this,

1508
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 2: and it's his birthday weekend, so could you please wish

1509
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 2: him a happy birthday? Now? People have weekends now weekend birthday, Yeah,

1510
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 2: week the whole weekend is devoted to you.

1511
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sounds.

1512
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: Like I just want to I just wanted to get breakfast.

1513
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 1: That was my thing. Oh no, that I need a

1514
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 1: good breakfast and a good dinner.

1515
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 2: But anyway, happy birthday, Shutters.

1516
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: Happy birthday for.

1517
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: Whenever it falls.

1518
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 5: Happy birthday.

1519
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole week would be nice. It's the month

1520
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:30,440
Speaker 2: of deuce.

1521
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Now as we get to Ori, it's fred. I just

1522
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: I hope my birthday just falls by the wayside and

1523
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: people leave me alone for a day and I can

1524
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: eat what I want.

1525
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty much my hopes for Okay. Speaking of shout outs,

1526
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 2: Barton Poland says Doug Kayite is one of the best

1527
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: Patriots reporters out there. Unfortunately his daughter has cancer. Yeah,

1528
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 2: so if anyone is willing to help and support his

1529
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: daughter and his family, there's a go link on gofund

1530
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 2: me set up by his friend on Doug's Twitter. So yeah,

1531
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 2: we were talking about that before the show. Really tough

1532
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: his daughters too, I believe. So yeah, if you feel

1533
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 2: like you want to support, go to Doug Kaites Twitter.

1534
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: It's tough.

1535
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: Doug's a great guy, I mean, and he's like Evan

1536
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: and me. I think he was one of the like

1537
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: any Patriots draft bloggers like two thousand and seven, two

1538
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, he's, you know, somebody who started this

1539
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: like we did with his passion A long time at

1540
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: Nelson was a pff but he's he's a great guy.

1541
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, it's I want him more around

1542
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: because I think he's a great you know, member of

1543
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: the media here in New England. But yeah, if you

1544
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: guys can can help him out at all, definitely, he's

1545
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: a great guy and could use it.

1546
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: Bart also says he's talking about Dane Brugler's beast, and

1547
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: he's got a seven round mock for the Patriots, and

1548
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 2: he believes it's one of the best that he's seen

1549
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: for the Patriots.

1550
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 1: See about that.

1551
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: He's got Broderick Jones going in the first round. Then

1552
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: Josh Down's wide receiver out of North Carolina. I mean

1553
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: that's the second round. That third round, Clark Phillips the

1554
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 2: third cornerback out of Utah small, So he goes o

1555
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: T wide receiver, cornerback for the first three picks. Then

1556
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 2: he goes defensive tackle Byron Young out of Alabama. And

1557
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: then with the he's got two more fourth round picks.

1558
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: The Patriots have Blake Freeland another tackle, this one out

1559
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 2: of b b YU, Dylan Horton, edge rusher out of TCU.

1560
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 8: Uh.

1561
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: Then he goes to the sixth round. Elijah Higgins wide receiver,

1562
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: tight end out of Stanford. D Winters, linebacker out of TCU,

1563
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,799
Speaker 2: Alex Forsyth corner winter a center out of Oregon.

1564
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Oregon centers of interesting.

1565
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 2: Alex Forsyth, Kenny McIntosh running back out of Georgia in

1566
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: the sixth round, yep in the sixth round, and Kavon

1567
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: Merriweather Safety out of Iowa, last pick on the seventh round.

1568
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 5: I definitely think that some of those guys are going

1569
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 5: to be guys that are interested. And I'm with you

1570
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 5: on Clark Phillips though, do five eight small line. It's

1571
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 5: how many more of those can we possibly have? But

1572
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 5: McIntosh is saying running back prospect. If Dan has him

1573
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 5: going in the sixth round, then maybe the league is

1574
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 5: a little bit lower on him than some of the

1575
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 5: consensus points that I have seen. I've seen more like

1576
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 5: fourth or fifth round. But he uh, he's just like

1577
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 5: that classic like Ben Jarvis greenellis just gonna not fumble,

1578
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,440
Speaker 5: get the yards that are there, run tough between the tackles,

1579
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 5: finished runs.

1580
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: Here for four years, Yeah, than gone.

1581
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, just not going to do anything flashy or special.

1582
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 5: But he's a solid rotational back, so I can see

1583
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 5: them interested in him too.

1584
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: Floyd has issue with me. He's out of Redford, Michigan.

1585
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: He says, Fred, I like you, but a couple of

1586
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: your jawd male discussions bothered me. At a time when

1587
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,480
Speaker 2: the NFL needs more African American coaches and general managers,

1588
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: you seem more concerned about discussing Steve Belichick please see below.

1589
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: When word came out about Girod Mayo having a schedule

1590
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: interview with the Carolina Panthers for potential head coach opportunity,

1591
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: you brought up his title, his job title, and what

1592
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 2: he actually does. But if Steve Belichi Check ever came

1593
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: up for a head coach opportunity, would you bring up

1594
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: his job title and what he actually does? To be fair,

1595
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: maybe you would.

1596
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 1: Sure.

1597
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: I when it comes to Gerard Mayo, I just don't

1598
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: know exactly what he's done. I'm sorry, you know, that's

1599
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,600
Speaker 2: just it. You know. That's the problem here is like

1600
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: he's kind of like you know, been all around the place.

1601
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 2: And when it came to like just recently, like now

1602
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 2: he's assistant head coach, what does that mean? What does

1603
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 2: it mean? And I've always said, like, okay, you get

1604
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 2: the interview as a head coach. My first question is,

1605
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: you know, Gerard, what is it that you've done that

1606
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: makes you believe that you, you know, are ready to

1607
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 2: be a head coach.

1608
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he thinks he's ready to be a

1609
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 5: head coach off of his commerceation the other day.

1610
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 2: That's the thing, you know. And he also says on

1611
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: Tuesday's recent show, someone brought up Girard Mayo talking and

1612
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: somehow you redirected the conversation with Steve Belichick again. I

1613
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 2: was surprised that he was talking on behalf of the

1614
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: defense because now he's assistant head coach, and I thought

1615
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 2: Steve would talk on behalf of the defense. You know,

1616
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying here. It's not it's it's not

1617
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: Girod's fault. It's like how they've handled his role here.

1618
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: You know, It's like we just don't know, Like we

1619
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: hear that he's the guy that presents the defense in

1620
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: the meetings. What does that mean, Like, who's the guy

1621
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: that decides what the defense would be week to week?

1622
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: You know?

1623
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 5: Belichick?

1624
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,600
Speaker 2: Well, okay, but like so so, then exactly what is

1625
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: Girod doing?

1626
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 5: I just don't know exactly what is any of that

1627
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 5: staff doing. Ye Like, not to say that none of

1628
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 5: them are doing anything of value. I'm not trying to

1629
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 5: say that, but that's my biggest thing with Gerard, with Steve,

1630
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 5: with Brian, with Mike Pellegrino, go right on, at least.

1631
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: We on game day, you see Steve calling the defense.

1632
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: You see, all right, he's play calling. He's calling the plays,

1633
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, Gerard's Mayo's name has been in the

1634
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 2: news as possibly being bill successor, which to me as

1635
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 2: an African American, is a big deal. But instead of

1636
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: leading the discussion that direction, Steve Belichick was somehow brought

1637
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 2: up again. I don't know, you must have missed the

1638
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 2: shows where we talk, like, you know, for a long

1639
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: time about Gerrod being the successor. So I don't know,

1640
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 2: you know.

1641
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's really any comparison to what Gira

1642
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: Mayo and Steve Belichick are doing right now, like I mean,

1643
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think it works well as

1644
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: a partnership and you see them always together. But even

1645
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: what we just kind of speculate about what we know

1646
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: is that he is the team guy. He's talking to

1647
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: the team. I mean, Steve is probably in the game

1648
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: calling the plays, you know, but if you had to

1649
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: look to a leader of the defense, it feels like

1650
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: it's JIROB. Mayo. I'd also just point out DeMarcus Covington,

1651
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: who coached down at the Senior Bowl. He's another rising

1652
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: African American coach here in New England as well. That

1653
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, as much attention as GIROB Mayo gets, I

1654
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: think DeMarcus Covington is another guy that deserves some of that.

1655
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: And he finishes up, he says, may I ask, why

1656
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: do you bring up Steve Belichick's name during GIROD Mayo discussions?

1657
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: Because they're tied to the hit.

1658
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: They are they're always together, you know.

1659
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: They're always together. And I think part of the issue

1660
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 2: is is Bill wants to have Steve as the DC.

1661
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 2: But maybe it's perception, you know, the whole thing. But

1662
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 2: like I liked Geron Mayo's great, you know, like he's

1663
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: he's a smart guy. But whenever I ask people, okay,

1664
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 2: like what has he done to show that he's been

1665
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: a head coach? A head coach you know, can be one,

1666
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: Like well, he worked at Putnam and he went into

1667
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: the business world. So I don't want to hear that anymore.

1668
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: Like and and again this is Bill's fault, Like we

1669
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what Gerard does here, and maybe he

1670
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: has behind the scenes proven that, wow, this guy is

1671
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 2: head coach, timber, but like we don't know that, Like I,

1672
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: you know, there's no evidence that I have of it

1673
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: except for you know.

1674
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: No, But but all we can speak to is what

1675
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: we've We've been in his presence and spoken with him,

1676
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: and I mean he has everything. Oh he possibly wants

1677
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:58,879
Speaker 1: to lead your team to leave your franchise.

1678
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're told that he definitely has leadership qualities, you know,

1679
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 2: and that's great. And like, if you're gonna tell me, like,

1680
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: between Steve Belichick and Gerard, who's the next head coach,

1681
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be Gerard Mayo, no question. I mean,

1682
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 2: there's not even a question there. Steve Belichick is miles

1683
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 2: away from being ready to be a head coach. And

1684
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: you know, but like the reason why those two guys

1685
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: come up in the conversation is because they're both kind

1686
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: of doing the same job.

1687
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: They're playing catch before every practice out there together like

1688
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: talking to also.

1689
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 2: Like as just outsiders looking in, we've for the last

1690
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 2: few years we've been trying to figure out who does

1691
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 2: what when it comes to the defense, and I thought

1692
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 2: this year would be the year where Gerard would kind

1693
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 2: of be elevated above that and really be truly an

1694
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 2: assistant head coach and Steve would be more just focused

1695
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: on defense and Gerard would be more getting the experience

1696
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: I need to be a head coach. So one day,

1697
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm with special teams, I'm hanging out with the offense,

1698
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 2: I'm with the I'm with Bill, I'm with Bill O'Brien

1699
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: and with the court. You know, like he's doing kind

1700
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: of all of it. I thought he would do more. So,

1701
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 2: like so when he was representing the defense in that

1702
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: recent availability, I was a little surprised, Yeah, because I

1703
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: thought he was above that.

1704
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: Now you wonder if he was more involved in the

1705
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: draft process this year. I mean, these are all things

1706
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: that would happen behind the scenes that we would have

1707
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,839
Speaker 1: no idea where he's gotten, you know, all new access

1708
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: this spring that we have.

1709
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: Right you know, you know when McDaniel's famously said Bill

1710
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 2: is going to open up his world to me, that's

1711
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 2: what the picture we had is draft room. You know,

1712
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: all the things that Bill does, you know, and I

1713
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 2: figured this year Gerard would be kind of doing that.

1714
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 5: He did mention scouting a couple of times that he

1715
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 5: loves to scout, and so maybe he has been watching

1716
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 5: a little bit more film on some of the college

1717
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 5: guys and helping out in that regard. But in terms

1718
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 5: of what he does from everything that I've gathered, it's

1719
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 5: like I said on Tuesday. It's a lot of the presenting,

1720
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 5: a lot of the forward facing stuff, right, he's kind

1721
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 5: of the face of that all you know, what's it

1722
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 5: in restaurant world, like the guy that's yeah. And then

1723
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 5: I think the other thing is is that because he played,

1724
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 5: he has a really good teaching side of him out

1725
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 5: on the practice field where he can say to Juwan Bentley,

1726
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 5: you know, why don't you try attacking you know, his

1727
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 5: outside hip and then maybe you know, throw the hand

1728
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 5: here or whatever, like he can get into the real

1729
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 5: nitty gritty of the techniques that they're using, and they're

1730
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 5: coaching from the schematic x's and o's side of it.

1731
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm not entirely sure how much of it that he's

1732
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 5: really doing, But as a head coach, I think that

1733
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 5: you are the CEO of your team absolutely, and I

1734
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 5: think some of the things that Drod does are actually

1735
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 5: more important in terms of grooming for a head coach

1736
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 5: than being one of these guys that's like a wizard

1737
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 5: with a play sheet.

1738
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we were told like when he was

1739
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 2: a player that he was a mini bill. You know,

1740
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 2: he like he was in early outlay, watching film, just

1741
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: eating it up, just loving it.

1742
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 5: You know, I think too.

1743
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know exactly, you know, how it

1744
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: gets sussed out, but the product on the field these

1745
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: past four years defensively has has been really good. I

1746
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: mean just I know that they've had their shortcomings against

1747
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: some of the better teams, but just as far as

1748
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: game planning, I mean, he talks so much about game

1749
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: planning defense, and I love talking to him about that

1750
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: stuff sometimes during the coach's availabilities. But I think it's

1751
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: a great reflection just upon you know, we know what

1752
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: happened with the offense last year. You haven't seen that

1753
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: drop off schematically from the defense. And I know that

1754
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 1: that probably comes from Bill and that you know, Steve

1755
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: as I hand in it as well. I'm sure with

1756
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: the play calling. But I just like that direction of

1757
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: how they're continuing to handle the defense. And I think

1758
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 1: if they can, you know, just get a couple more pieces,

1759
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: I think they could really really, you know, get to

1760
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: that next level.

1761
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, I think defensively, the reason why the Patriots

1762
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 5: can roll out of bed and still win eight games

1763
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 5: every year, even with the offenses and shambles spin that Dome,

1764
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 5: is because they have his level of sophistication on defense.

1765
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 5: It's always going to exist as long as Bill is here,

1766
01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 5: and I think that's really where a lot of that

1767
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 5: defensive prowess comes from.

1768
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: Kyle and Pembroke says, I think it's a little ridiculous

1769
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 2: to keep comparing Mac to Brady and saying, well, Brady

1770
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: earned the right. Belichick stunted Max's development as a player,

1771
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: threw him under the bus, and is responsible for the

1772
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: Patriots being mediocre. Mac has been through more than enough

1773
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: in his past year to justify being upset, and it's

1774
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 2: not something he has to earn. Mac deserves a chance

1775
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: to show he can be the guy, which I believe

1776
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: he can be if he's surrounded by a football team

1777
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: and not a circus.

1778
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 5: Wow, there's some Do me notice Fred that there's there's

1779
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 5: some angry people.

1780
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: You know, like if we're you know, very if we're

1781
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: getting people riled up, you know.

1782
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 5: That's not our you know, that's that's not necessarily our goal.

1783
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 2: No, it isn't. But like you know, everyone has their opinion.

1784
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 5: People coming after us personally.

1785
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: Some people listen, come on, we're out there. We got

1786
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: to be able to take it. Williams and philam on

1787
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 2: the ACE Ticket hotline. What's up, Willem, what's going on?

1788
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 4: How you doing?

1789
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: All right?

1790
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 12: All right?

1791
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 1: Uh?

1792
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 17: To the uh, I guess to the caller your I

1793
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 17: guess the last caller? Was it or was it an

1794
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 17: email that you read?

1795
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 4: I just turned in a little bit too late.

1796
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 17: But I just want to say, also, like to what

1797
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 17: he's saying to where he's not coming at y'all, because

1798
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 17: I don't have no problem with.

1799
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 4: Any of you.

1800
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 17: You know, we all have our fans and stuff, and

1801
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 17: I think y'all a hell of a podcast basically, first

1802
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 17: of all, so that's why I always call him and

1803
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 17: what not. But you know, just Bill, Bill need to

1804
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 17: just put his stubbornness to the side. Okay, Mac moved on.

1805
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 17: You need to move on as a clean but you know,

1806
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 17: you come on like you know, we're supposed to be.

1807
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 17: It's about the team at this point now. I mean,

1808
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 17: you know that was then and now, so can we

1809
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 17: just move on? You know, it just seemed like he's

1810
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 17: still gonna hold this grudge, you know, because he went

1811
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 17: over your head and whatever like that. Okay, I mean,

1812
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 17: just can we just move on at this point?

1813
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: I hear you, and I think that's what they're doing.

1814
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: I think when Bill O'Brien talked last week, you know

1815
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: he mentioned or this week he mentioned a couple of

1816
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 2: times clean slate, clean slate, and I think some other

1817
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 2: maybe another coach mentioned it as well. That's coming from Bill,

1818
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: you know. So at some point, if he hasn't already

1819
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 2: done it, he has to sit down with Mac and

1820
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: say listen, yeah, clean slate. Forget about last year. We're

1821
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,839
Speaker 2: moving on. So I think I think you're right, William,

1822
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: that's what they have to do.

1823
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 17: Yes, I agree, And uh, just one question for Evan. Evan,

1824
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 17: so what do you think of as two bide receivers though?

1825
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,679
Speaker 17: And do you think we can get any one of these?

1826
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 17: Maybe between the fourth I guess maybe a third and

1827
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,719
Speaker 17: fifth round, between third, fourth and fifth round. Jonathan Mingo

1828
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 17: from Ole Miss and also Rice for a week.

1829
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 5: What you think that's your guy?

1830
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? I like him. I like him. I like him

1831
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:52,879
Speaker 2: late though. Yeah.

1832
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 5: So Mingo is a really fun prospect six foot three,

1833
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 5: two twenty with a four to four forty. He's got that,

1834
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 5: he's got that aj brown build right where. He's thicker guy,

1835
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 5: but can can run. I think that, you know, the

1836
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 5: Old Miss comparisons and the size and the speed gets

1837
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 5: a little bit of AJ Brown type of buzz. I

1838
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 5: don't think he's as good as AJ Brown, but I

1839
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 5: think he's got a similar skill. I can get up

1840
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 5: the field. The speed really pops off the film with him,

1841
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 5: Like when you watch him run across the field or

1842
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 5: on a vertical route, he can really test the defense

1843
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 5: with his speed. And then he's got that rocked up

1844
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 5: frame that he can bounce off tackles and run through

1845
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 5: tackles as a yeah guy, he's not a separator though

1846
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 5: at the top of the route. He's not a quick guy,

1847
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 5: and he's gonna have to use his body as a

1848
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 5: shield and box guys out to make you know, catches,

1849
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 5: horizontal cuts and catches underneath the defense. But I'm fascinated

1850
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 5: by the tools, like you know, the size and the speed.

1851
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 5: You're not a lot of guys that are two hundred

1852
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 5: and twenty five pounds that are running a four to

1853
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 5: four like that doesn't really exist too often. Bryce Ford Wheaton,

1854
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 5: I'm not as high on him as as Fredden and

1855
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 5: as who loves it.

1856
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: He's six three two and he runs a four to

1857
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: three eight.

1858
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 5: Because I didn't see that, I didn't see four three

1859
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 5: eight on film. Okay, I also I didn't. He's stiff like,

1860
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 5: he's not a very fluid mover. He's just looks like

1861
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 5: a little bit heavy footed. I was really surprised at

1862
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 5: how good of his combine was. I gotta be honest

1863
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 5: with you, based off of what I saw on tape,

1864
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 5: it might be one of those guys that's just really

1865
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 5: really good in that environment at the combine, but doesn't

1866
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 5: really translate the football fast. Maybe I'm wrong on him,

1867
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 5: but I didn't necessarily see his dynamic of an athlete,

1868
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 5: the slow.

1869
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: Track in the a sec. There you go, slow track?

1870
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: Trust all right?

1871
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 2: Thanks William like mingo though, Yeah, I just checked our lads.

1872
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: They have Ford Wheaton going in the fifth or sixth round.

1873
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounds about right.

1874
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll get drafted with that combine for sure.

1875
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1876
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,719
Speaker 2: Let's go to Alex in Toronto. What's up, Alex?

1877
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 18: Hey, how's it going good?

1878
01:24:58,280 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1879
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 18: I love the show. I just think the comment on

1880
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 18: the draft, I think they have to go, you know,

1881
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 18: offense in the first round at wide receiver tackle just

1882
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 18: to give Max the help, and then I think you

1883
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 18: go secondary in two and three. Love Darius Rush out

1884
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 18: of South Carolina and Brown from Illinois. I think he's

1885
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 18: a He's a great option for them for a mccording replacement.

1886
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm assuming you mean Sidney Brown more of a

1887
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 5: box safety than than a mccordy guy. I like kwand

1888
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 5: Martin the other safety from Millinois a little bit more,

1889
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 5: and he's somebody that can be a little bit more

1890
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 5: of that center fielder and translate to the deep part

1891
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 5: of the field. But both guys, both those Illinois safeties

1892
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 5: can play. I just remember Jalen Petrie. That's who Sidney

1893
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 5: Brown reminds me a lot of. Is more of like

1894
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 5: a line of at the line of scrimmage type of

1895
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 5: blitz cover tight ends a little bit playing the box.

1896
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: The more I think about it, though, I just I

1897
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 1: don't see them taking a free safety, like drafting a

1898
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: free safety. I think it's more like the thing we

1899
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 1: talk about with like Moss and Ringo, you know, taking

1900
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: a corner. We're not sure where he fits. If he's

1901
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 1: smart enough, we'll get him into the defense, and then

1902
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: maybe eventually he ends up there. But I just don't

1903
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: see there being like, hey, we're gonna draft a Day

1904
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,919
Speaker 1: three free safety type who's gonna step into Devin McCarty's

1905
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: role and play that. I just I got a real

1906
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: real hard time seeing that. I think it's more likely

1907
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: you take an early corner, plug him into the lineup,

1908
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: and then you're just kind of figuring that out with

1909
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Miles Bryant and Jonathan Jones and you know that that whole.

1910
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 2: Group, because don't forget, when they took mccordy, it wasn't

1911
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: as a safety right, so.

1912
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 5: They had to move him over there, and you know,

1913
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 5: I mean, but I've set up before.

1914
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: I think that's what stands out to me most about

1915
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: the twenty twelve defense was just it was bombs away

1916
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: against them starting that Seattle game to Tavon Wilson, they

1917
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: get kind of stuck with a bunch of his strong

1918
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: safety types, and that, you know, was kind of the

1919
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: reason why mccordy ended up back there. I do think

1920
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: it's very important. I just but it's such a headsy position.

1921
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it's one where he's just so talented

1922
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna put him in free safety. I think that

1923
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: that's more about does he have the mind for it? Okay,

1924
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: then he'll be able to do it. It doesn't have

1925
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: to be like we have to get a game changer

1926
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: right away right to replace them.

1927
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guy like Ringo fascinates me for that that

1928
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 5: type of thing, just that speed, and then also his

1929
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 5: you know, he's built, built really well, so he's gonna

1930
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 5: be able to lay the wood too if you come

1931
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 5: over the middle. I think he can play corner two

1932
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,759
Speaker 5: in the league, but his transitions are a little stiff,

1933
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 5: and he has trouble sticking with guys at the top

1934
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 5: of their route. So maybe he move over to safety

1935
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 5: and he doesn't have to cover guys like that on

1936
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 5: an island where they can beat him on those cuts.

1937
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: So it's got the range.

1938
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, let's go to Matthew in New Mexico.

1939
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: What's up, Matthew? Oh, he's gone, all right? Matthew hung

1940
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: on Hunter from Campbellsville, Kentucky. Oh, right's in. I'm not

1941
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: out on Mac Jones yet. However, if Anthony Richardson or

1942
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: Will Levis fall to us at fourteen, I would gladly

1943
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: take them. They are both raw, but have all the

1944
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 2: physical tools that Mac just does not have. Otherwise, my

1945
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: dream scenario is to take either in the first round

1946
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: Flowers or Addison in this second round trade up for

1947
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 2: Dewan Jones in the second, trade back into the second

1948
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 2: for either Gibbs or Washington.

1949
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 5: He's been listening to Alex Barth.

1950
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 2: If we are gonna stick with Mac, it's vital we

1951
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: surround him with talented playmakers to get the most out

1952
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: of him.

1953
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 5: That's fair.

1954
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: That's a question for the group. Like I one of

1955
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: the things I struggle with is knowing exactly what side

1956
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: they need to tackle for and if right tackles are

1957
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: worth left tackle project projections, you know, Like, I don't

1958
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: think anyone's gonna fault them for taking Paris Johnson, Broder Jones,

1959
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: even Scronsky if they really think he's a left tackle.

1960
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: But as we get into like the more of the

1961
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: right tackle stuff, like how important is that now?

1962
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 2: You know?

1963
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: And I know that that it's less about your left sides,

1964
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: your passing side, your right sides you're running. I know

1965
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: teams are more balanced than that now and tackles have

1966
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: more value on both sides. But I just wonder, is

1967
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 1: it really say they trade down in the twenties, is.

1968
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 5: That worth a right tackle?

1969
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 12: Right?

1970
01:28:58,080 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: There?

1971
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 5: Is that like a critical Like I guess.

1972
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 1: The left tackle part of it, I just don't know

1973
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: if you put the same measure.

1974
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 5: On a right tackle, and is that just I think

1975
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 5: it depends on who your quarterback.

1976
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: I think it really I think the more mobile your

1977
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: quarterback is, the more right tackle comes into play, even

1978
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 2: if your quarterbacks are writing because he's moving around.

1979
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 9: You know.

1980
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 2: Like historically left tackle has been the most valid because

1981
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 2: it's the blind side. You know, your quarterbacks sitting in,

1982
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,879
Speaker 2: you know, and you got to protect the blind side.

1983
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 2: But like what you know, like if a guy's mobile,

1984
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: what's your blind side? You know?

1985
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know this is everybody talks

1986
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: about tackle. I just don't think that there's enough kind

1987
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 1: of delineation. I mean we talk plenty about well he's

1988
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: a slock corner. Is that you know, that doesn't really

1989
01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: fit exactly what they need. They got a lot of

1990
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: slot corners, but everybody just kind of lumps the tackles in.

1991
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Particularly in this team. Versatility has always been an attribute

1992
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 2: like that they look for, you know, the more you

1993
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 2: can do. They always like guys who can do more

1994
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 2: than one thing, unless you're like elite at that one.

1995
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: They like guys who can, you know, do different things.

1996
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 2: And I think that translates even to wide receiver. I

1997
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 2: don't think they, you know, high, would draft a guy

1998
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: who's just a slot guy. You know, I don't think

1999
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 2: they do that.

2000
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that that's archaic. But I think

2001
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 5: with the right tackles.

2002
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: You think that that nine set's archaic. Yes, you should

2003
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 2: be able to Well how good does he have to be?

2004
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Though for you to take the guy if he can

2005
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: do just one thing?

2006
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 5: I think there's a difference between him playing in one

2007
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 5: spot and being able to just do one thing. I guess.

2008
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2009
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 5: You know, like a slot like Zay Flowers who can

2010
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 5: run routes at all three levels, but is probably going

2011
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 5: to run him from inside. That's still a pretty versatile player, right,

2012
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 5: and you can still move that player around and you

2013
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 5: can still have him attack different areas of a defense.

2014
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 5: I could understand, like a guy like Jackson Smith and Jig,

2015
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 5: but is a slot who's really a first and second

2016
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: level player. He's not somebody that has the speed to

2017
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 5: really test defenses at that third level down the field,

2018
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 5: So maybe he's a little bit more pigeonholed into a

2019
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 5: skill set. The right tackle left tackle thing is fascinating though,

2020
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,520
Speaker 5: because it's in the past they've always put the bulldozers

2021
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 5: on the right side and then the guys with the

2022
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 5: dance and bears on the left side. Is that still true, Like,

2023
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 5: do they still believe in that those types of archetypes.

2024
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 5: Because Trent Brown has played left and right, but he

2025
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 5: played left last year, he played left in eighteen, and

2026
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 5: he's not that athletic, Nate Soldier type of tackle. So

2027
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 5: it is interesting to see where they go with it.

2028
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 5: I think in this draft too, the left tackles are

2029
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 5: at the tip tip top of the draft and then

2030
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 5: in fourth round and on and then in the middle

2031
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 5: or all the right tackles. So if you don't take

2032
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,719
Speaker 5: a tackle at fourteen that can play on the left side,

2033
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 5: you're probably not taking a left side tackle until the

2034
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 5: fourth round. Now at that point, what are you getting

2035
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,560
Speaker 5: a guy that can play in a starting role or

2036
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 5: are you really just looking at more of a swing tackle.

2037
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 5: So if you don't take that left tackle early, now

2038
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,320
Speaker 5: we're getting into Darnell Right, Dowan Jones.

2039
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, and I'm sure that there's been

2040
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: some mocks with Darnell Right going at fourteen, and I

2041
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 1: just I wonder would they if they see him as

2042
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 1: a right tackle maybe has to move inside kind of

2043
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: a guy to them, is that not worth that fourteenth

2044
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: overall pick? That's just way too soon? Or even you know,

2045
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Dewan Jones, is that like, what point is too early

2046
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 1: for a right side only guy? If at all?

2047
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 5: I don't and I really love Dewan Jones and Darnell right,

2048
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 5: but I think the other thing that you have to

2049
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 5: think about is if Trent Brown's the other tackle, you

2050
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 5: don't really have a ton of athleticism at tackle now.

2051
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,439
Speaker 5: So if you want to run toss schemes, stretch schemes,

2052
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,920
Speaker 5: things like that, who's getting the corner? Like, you're not

2053
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 5: either direction. So that's why guys like Paris Johnson and

2054
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 5: Broderick Jones makes so much sense for them if that's

2055
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 5: the direction they want to go and.

2056
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: Put Trump back on the right sie. It just gives

2057
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:02,679
Speaker 1: you something different through the athleticism on the left side

2058
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 1: of the young kid. It might be some you know,

2059
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: some growing pains, but I mean that that makes sense.

2060
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard to see when all right, we

2061
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: got Dewan Jones, now we have Dewan Jones, Trent Brown,

2062
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: some other old right tackles, Calvin Anderson, maybe you know,

2063
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: has some sympt about but it's just it seems like

2064
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot of big, immobile kind of guys and I

2065
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: don't I just I think you get kind of stuck.

2066
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,719
Speaker 5: I mean, Calvin Anderson would certainly be the most athletic

2067
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 5: guy out of that group, So maybe he's somebody that

2068
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 5: you project on the left side. But then you get

2069
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 5: into the whole blind side thing. It's like, if do

2070
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 5: you want how much do you really trust to Brodert Jones,

2071
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:39,120
Speaker 5: who's a little raw as a past protector, protecting the

2072
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 5: blind side for a pocket passer, you know, not somebody

2073
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 5: that's going to be able to escape it on his

2074
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 5: own necessarily. It's it's a fun conversation.

2075
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 2: Just from Connecticut. Tried Jersey Mikes for the first time

2076
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago, and I've gotten it once a

2077
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: week since. No addiction. That is all. Yeah, you're welcome,

2078
01:33:58,680 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: it's good stuff.

2079
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Head up yesterday. Actually, oh yeah, yeah, I got that

2080
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: was one of my one of my birthday one of

2081
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 1: my birthday present, twenty five dollars gift.

2082
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 5: Card of Jersey Mike came around.

2083
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 1: My family knows me.

2084
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: Let's see Cole and Eugene Oregon, Evan told us, all

2085
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 2: of us on PU fans to shut up and stop

2086
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 2: complaining about the lack of weapons on the team because

2087
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 2: the Patriots are having talks about training for a receiver

2088
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 2: like d hop or Jerry Judy. Any chance that's going

2089
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 2: to happen before the draft is over? Or was that

2090
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 2: just snarky reply and totally baseless?

2091
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

2092
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh see I said this This was like week Yeah,

2093
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: that was I think like you scold everyone to, you know,

2094
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: because it was like the complaining.

2095
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 5: It was day two a free agency.

2096
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 2: But now in hindsight where their complaints valid.

2097
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 5: Talk to me in a week.

2098
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 2: Oh, you're still saying there's hope then, of course Judy

2099
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 2: hasn't always hope.

2100
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,679
Speaker 1: Howkins done? Look like you want to come here? Budes?

2101
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Technically that was interesting.

2102
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 2: We need to talk about that. Help now. Who was

2103
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,640
Speaker 2: the person interviewing because that was an interesting way of

2104
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 2: getting an answer.

2105
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 1: It was one of the busting guys.

2106
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one of those guys, like one of

2107
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 5: those player podcasts so.

2108
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 2: People can see it. They asked, you know, Hopkins, like

2109
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: where you'd want to go or if you'd want to

2110
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: go to a certain place, and you weren't allowed to

2111
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: say anything. So Hopkins can only buy body language say

2112
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 2: whether or not he'd want to go there, and the

2113
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 2: body language for the Patriots was not good. It was

2114
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 2: like nah. And then Kansas City and the Bills, obviously

2115
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 2: with two great quarterbacks and contenders for the Super Bowl

2116
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: the last few years, it was like, Okay.

2117
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean, I'm sure he has some

2118
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 1: respect for Bill Belichick. But if you're at that age

2119
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 1: in your career, you really are picking where you want

2120
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: to go, you want to probably go to one of

2121
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 1: the teams you're going to be. You know, you've got

2122
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 1: an immediate shot. I mean that's yeah, I don't hold that.

2123
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 2: But that was that was interesting. It was a clever

2124
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 2: way of doing it.

2125
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 5: That's where you're at. Though. Guys like Hopkins, guys like

2126
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 5: Odell they don't want to come here. They don't want

2127
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 5: to come here. They're not going to come here at.

2128
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 2: The will if you pay him, I don't know they

2129
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 2: will if you if you pay him more than anyone else,

2130
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 2: they'll come here.

2131
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,880
Speaker 1: I think Bill still has you know, some cachet. I

2132
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: mean Juju talked about you know, but it's look, you're

2133
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: one of the also rants right now. It's not a

2134
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 1: destination and until you start you have those teams you

2135
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: gotta do.

2136
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 5: Guy like guy like Juju, you you pay him more

2137
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 5: than anybody he comes a guy like Hopkins that has

2138
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 5: all these suitors and is probably gonna get paid regardless.

2139
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: Right, So if money's if money is the same, then

2140
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 2: you go to a place where I get where do

2141
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 2: I have the best chance?

2142
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 5: But how much how much money? Like how much above

2143
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 5: the market do you really need to be because I

2144
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 5: don't I think the days of just being a couple

2145
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 5: million dollars above market, like that's not I don't think

2146
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 5: that's going to cut it.

2147
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 2: Guarantee how much guarantee.

2148
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 1: You don't, Yeah, it's I mean, I think you're right.

2149
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 1: It's guys like Kendrick Bourne that you know. It's that

2150
01:36:57,479 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: extra one or two million that you're offering that no

2151
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: one else says. It's not about like the high end guys.

2152
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 1: But that's the same thing as Juju. You know, it's

2153
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: probably the best offer he had. I'm sure to Kansas City.

2154
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 1: I think I saw Kansas City was interested at least

2155
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:10,479
Speaker 1: maybe they.

2156
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 5: Tried to bring him back, but the Patriots outbid them.

2157
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. Cole also says my priorities for the

2158
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 2: first round of this draft are corner and tackle. We

2159
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 2: can pick up a wide receiver next year when the

2160
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 2: crop is better, and they'll be developed by the time

2161
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 2: we trash Mac Jones and replace them with a quarterback

2162
01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: with less Toddler attitude and more talent. Oh wow, these

2163
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: Patriots fans.

2164
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: He wants Marvin Harrison junior.

2165
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure the talent that much better.

2166
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 2: Paul and Norwood mass right down the road. I would

2167
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 2: agree with the notion that in today's NFL of running

2168
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 2: back it's typically not worth spending a first round pick

2169
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,479
Speaker 2: on what if the Patriots or another thing. But see

2170
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: Bejean Robinson as more of a dynamic offensive player the

2171
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: next Debo rather than the next se Quon. While Bijon

2172
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 2: only had sixty receptions in three years at Texas, Deebo

2173
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 2: only had twenty five carries in four years at South Carolina.

2174
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 2: Imagine the stress that an extraordinary athlete could put on

2175
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 2: a defense trying to match personnel when you don't know

2176
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 2: if he'll be lining up in the batfield, out wide,

2177
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 2: or in the slot. Admittedly, this would take a projection,

2178
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 2: but if Robinson is a superior athlete, to the other

2179
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,480
Speaker 2: skilled position players. Wouldn't this be worth consideration?

2180
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 5: He's a running back.

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01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a running back, And I mean we could

2182
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe talk that with Gibbs, like you know that he's

2183
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 1: more of a weapon kind of a guy if we're

2184
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: still using that term. But so the what's the path

2185
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 1: with Bjon? How do you have to beat teams every week?

2186
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: If that's your offense? What has to go right every week?

2187
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 5: And everybody always people that use the devo comparison. The

2188
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 5: Jaguars tried this with Travis Etn. Urban Meyer drafted Travis

2189
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 5: Etn thinking that he was going to be this like

2190
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 5: slot slash running back, hybrid offensive weapon. It's like, then,

2191
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 5: just go get a slot receiver, Like why are you

2192
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,479
Speaker 5: trying to make a running back into a wide receiver

2193
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 5: when you can just draft a wide receiver like that.

2194
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 5: That's the part of it that I don't really fully understand.

2195
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: So I feel like they get so much in their

2196
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 1: own heads and they're like, well, they're gonna match us

2197
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 1: with base personnel, and then he's lined up on a

2198
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: linebacker now, and that's how I even try to you know,

2199
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 1: I just you're overthinking it.

2200
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 5: It did definitely because the amount of times that a

2201
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 5: package that a team puts on the field really forces

2202
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three defenses to put base personnel. It's like

2203
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 5: very few and far between it.

2204
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake and Bendigo Australia. Just wanted to say how

2205
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 2: disappointed I was when listening to the end of the

2206
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 2: running back draft reviews. Oh no, it was said there

2207
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: would only be one more show and it wasn't about

2208
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 2: special teams. One of our big holes right now and

2209
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 2: no show for it. Get Alex barth In and let's

2210
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: find out which punters we should be taking.

2211
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, good email.

2212
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, you don't.

2213
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 5: Want to do an hour on Adam. I mean he

2214
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 5: said it was from Australia. Oh that's what he's getting at,

2215
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 5: isn't it. That's what he's getting He wants his assie talked.

2216
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 2: About Ryan and Lincoln Nebraska. I'm in the same place

2217
01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: as I always am this time of year, anticipating the

2218
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: draft with twenty players I really like, yet knowing that

2219
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 2: Belichick will select none of them. Ultimately, I feel we

2220
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:23,599
Speaker 2: end up trading down in the first day for two picks,

2221
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 2: and I'd be fine with that. What are your thought

2222
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,560
Speaker 2: thoughts that the that the play being I don't know

2223
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 2: what that means. Trade down a target branch with the

2224
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 2: first round pick. I feel Belichick will lean toward the

2225
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball come the twenty eighth. Love

2226
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 2: all the content, Appreciate what you all do.

2227
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:43,720
Speaker 1: I just can't rule that that branch pick out, like

2228
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,599
Speaker 1: it just seems completely redundant and isn't going to really

2229
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 1: move the needle what they need. But you know, he's

2230
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,760
Speaker 1: an Alabama guy that plays, is probably gonna be like

2231
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 1: a strong safety type guy. I hope, I hope it's not.

2232
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: But I, like I said, I can't ignore him. It's

2233
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,719
Speaker 1: just because he's he's really good.

2234
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, if this was two years ago or three years

2235
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 5: ago with Kyle Duggar.

2236
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: You know that makes sense.

2237
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,160
Speaker 2: Adam and Arlington Virginia says Hopkins won't come because he

2238
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 2: and Bill O'Brien hate each other. Did you forget what

2239
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 2: happened in Houston? You can't discount that, Like, does he

2240
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 2: still hold a grudge there?

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01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it too.

2242
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 5: I personally, I don't think it's the biggest reason why

2243
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:24,160
Speaker 5: he won't come here, but I think it's a factor.

2244
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Let's see James Pettigrew the most interesting

2245
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: Patriots fan of the world. Rights in rank in order

2246
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 2: of likelihood are positioned in the AFC East at the

2247
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 2: end of the season. Here's mine from most likely to

2248
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:41,120
Speaker 2: least third, most likely, and then it goes down to fourth,

2249
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 2: second and first. So he's saying most likely.

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01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Third, most likely, third.

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01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I think they they, you know,

2252
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:53,719
Speaker 2: jump over Miami, but the Jets are going to be tough,

2253
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 2: you know.

2254
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Assuming it happens. Yeah, I'm still waiting there, right, yep,

2255
01:41:58,160 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: maybe we get Ad.

2256
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 5: That's so Jets to have that fall apart, so.

2257
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: It would be so Jets, and it'd be so Jets

2258
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: for Belichick to go grab him like, I don't know.

2259
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 5: They're still holding on TI, I am. I appreciate telling

2260
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 5: you I appreciate the commitment.

2261
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: Next week at this time, two weeks from right now,

2262
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: let's see.

2263
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Kyle from Pembroke says, I apologize if I came off

2264
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,680
Speaker 2: as coming directly at you guys. I'm just tired of

2265
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 2: hearing Brady being brought up. Whenever Mac is being up,

2266
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 2: is upset, Mac being upset is brought up. No quarterback

2267
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 2: compares to Brady. Ever, Mac Jones will never be Brady,

2268
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 2: and that's fine. I just want to see the Patriots

2269
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 2: move forward and be successful. I think you guys do

2270
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 2: an amazing job, and I enjoy listening draft question, so

2271
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: I don't waste your time. Who do you want most?

2272
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, Darnell Washington or Gibbs Say Flowers, that's easy.

2273
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 2: Everybody's a Flowers.

2274
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, I got I mean, I

2275
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: love Washington. I mean I think he's fun to watch.

2276
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:54,600
Speaker 8: I do.

2277
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: I do have real questions though, just if he's ever

2278
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 1: gonna be an athlete? You know, like he just doesn't

2279
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: look like a natural. I mean, now Washington, the big

2280
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 1: tight end from Georgia, I mean, he just never looks natural.

2281
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 5: You know, he's like fair to and Bartha isn't here

2282
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 5: yet to hear this. I wish he was. Is it

2283
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 5: fair to say Darnel Washington's getting a little overrated?

2284
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting at.

2285
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 5: That's what I'm getting at. Like he's really big.

2286
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: And long and and and certainly has value in the

2287
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: blocking game. But I just, you know, I just is

2288
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: he ever going to be a natural athlete in space?

2289
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Who's gonna shake loose from guys in and get open,

2290
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure he'll make hundreds of contested

2291
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: catches because he's got that kind of size and body.

2292
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,680
Speaker 5: But I just the more I watch him, I'm like,

2293
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 5: he's the number.

2294
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:37,679
Speaker 1: One tight end. I'm like, like for what like? Because

2295
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: I think some of these other guys might move the

2296
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: needle as overall players, even though he's got this incredible

2297
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 1: size and link that you know no one else has.

2298
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 1: Is I just I think there might be a handful

2299
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 1: of other tight ends in this class that are more

2300
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 1: well rounded players than he is. And we're all kind

2301
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 1: of enamored with.

2302
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 5: The biggest upset of the combine was him running that

2303
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 5: forty because he's a he's a strider.

2304
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: It's just not he's not natural.

2305
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 5: He builds. He's a train, right, he builds up to

2306
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,920
Speaker 5: that speed. I was absolutely shocked that he ran as

2307
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 5: well as he did in the forty, and he came

2308
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 5: in a little bit lighter than I think what he

2309
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,640
Speaker 5: played at Georgia. So I think he just put it

2310
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:19,120
Speaker 5: all on the line to get faster for the months

2311
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,680
Speaker 5: leading up to the combine. And you see why this

2312
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 5: is why, right, what we're talking about, because he's just

2313
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 5: not like you said. He's not sudden, he's not quick,

2314
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,280
Speaker 5: he's not an instant accelerator off the line of scrimmage.

2315
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 5: He had forty five career catches at Georgia, and now

2316
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 5: we're projecting him to have this massive leap where he

2317
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 5: is an eighty catch guy in the NFL, right, And

2318
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 5: I just I can't get there. I don't know if

2319
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 5: he's got that type of natural receiving talent.

2320
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't Josh and Dallas, I was wondering if there's

2321
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: a chance of Patriots trade down and then use that

2322
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:52,640
Speaker 2: pick to get a receiver like Judy. Most agree that

2323
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 2: pick number fourteen is too much, but if they trade

2324
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 2: to the end of the first round, they would at

2325
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 2: least recoup a Day two pick. Not saying it's going

2326
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 2: to happen, but have you heard the Jets might do

2327
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 2: something similar for Rogers since they don't want to give

2328
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:06,879
Speaker 2: pick thirteen away from him.

2329
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: For him, Oh so trade down and then said, yeah, now.

2330
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:13,799
Speaker 2: We'll give you first because it's lower. Yeah.

2331
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we've said it a few times.

2332
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think anybody's going to be

2333
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: that upset if there's a little trade down. I think

2334
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: trade out of the first round we probably would Riot,

2335
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of really good players that fit

2336
01:45:25,560 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 1: them in the twenties that will still be there.

2337
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,919
Speaker 2: Uh bet, Brian from the Bay Area. Is it possible

2338
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: the rumors that the Patriots were shopping mac Jones was

2339
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 2: because they were trying to find out his value in

2340
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 2: case Levis or Richardson fall to them. They would want

2341
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 2: a trademark if they picked up one of those guys.

2342
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,719
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not out of the question.

2343
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, but I don't really know. But

2344
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: do you really need to call around to find out

2345
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: his value? Like, don't you think they probably know what

2346
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: his value is? You know, I mean I'm speculating. I

2347
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,280
Speaker 1: don't know what do you think is value is like

2348
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: a third or fourth rounder?

2349
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 5: Oh wow? Do you think I get a second round

2350
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 5: pick for him?

2351
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 2: See? There you go? I guess right now, right even

2352
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 2: in this room, you better call around to see what

2353
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 2: his value is.

2354
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:14,600
Speaker 5: I think that the problem is is that it's it'd

2355
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 5: have to be a team that feels like it needs

2356
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 5: a young quarterback in the room, but doesn't get that

2357
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 5: quarterback in the draft and didn't take care of it

2358
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 5: in free you know, right. So there's that's I think

2359
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:30,719
Speaker 5: where the value comes into play is that how many

2360
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:36,440
Speaker 5: teams actually fit that description? A team that needs a quarterback,

2361
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 5: didn't get it in the draft, didn't get it in

2362
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:43,839
Speaker 5: free agency. There's got a maybe one or two teams

2363
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 5: fit that. Are the Raiders going to trade for Mac

2364
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 5: Jones when they just signed Jimmy G. Like they give

2365
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 5: Jimmy G a ton of guaranteed money, but Jimmy G's

2366
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,560
Speaker 5: a starter there in twenty twenty three based off the contract.

2367
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 5: So there's just not a ton of teams that fit

2368
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 5: that exact description. So you could be right, it might

2369
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 5: not be anywhere close to what they would want.

2370
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 2: Let's see Robin is Call writing in from the Catskills.

2371
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: He says to me, the perfect draft is to trade

2372
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 2: down in the first, trade up in the second. I

2373
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 2: think I already read this coming away with Darnell Wright

2374
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 2: Deontay Banks. Is this realistic?

2375
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 5: What do you think Dante Banks going in the first round?

2376
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2377
01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean evan.

2378
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 5: Top top twenty five, I bet at least yeah, good player.

2379
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay. Let's see Raymond from Saint Louis wants to know

2380
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 2: would you take two corners? In the draft, one early

2381
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 2: and one in the later rounds.

2382
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:46,960
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, but I also don't think they have a

2383
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 1: huge numbers issue at corner. Like I just I'd love

2384
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 1: to be targeted. I'd love to just get like, just

2385
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 1: get Deontae Banks, you know, and then I'm good, you

2386
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 1: got you know, Jack Jones, Marcus Jones, Brian, I mean,

2387
01:47:57,640 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of bodies there. Now, I don't

2388
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: know a good uh you know, fifth round corner is like,

2389
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, unless it's this potential safety development or a

2390
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 1: guy that you could see maybe on the back end

2391
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: of the defense, but specifically targeting to like long corners

2392
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: to that, I don't know if they need to do that.

2393
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 2: Colin and Rutgers rights in, Mike, I saw your big

2394
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: board now it included Rutgers punter Adam Korsak, And I

2395
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 2: just want to put on record that I am all

2396
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 2: for drafting Corsack, as sad as it is to say,

2397
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 2: he was by far the most talented player with uh

2398
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:38,879
Speaker 2: Pachico Gone. I also noticed that Bill was at Rutgers

2399
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 2: coaching Clinic event speaking with coach Jiano this past weekend.

2400
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to consider Corsack a lock to be your

2401
01:48:46,280 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 2: next punter.

2402
01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I I feel pretty good they're gonna draft a punter

2403
01:48:49,400 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: this year. Like that seems like one of the like

2404
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 1: if there were you know, I don't know statements of

2405
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: fact that you believe. I think drafting a punter, I'm

2406
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,519
Speaker 1: not not as sold on a kicker, I think, but

2407
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 1: and I think they could just u DFA probably both

2408
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: those spots, but I think they'll probably take him or what.

2409
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Turk's the other one that made.

2410
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 5: Turk is the one they worked with at the Shrine Bowl.

2411
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 5: He's got a big leg. He's one of those.

2412
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 1: Lefty it's just an oversized leg.

2413
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:12,559
Speaker 5: That's a bar question.

2414
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 2: Uh likes the left left footed spin.

2415
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 5: Corsic is interesting though, because he he's got is Turk

2416
01:49:23,080 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 5: lefty barth No, not a lefty. Corsic is interesting because

2417
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 5: he has multiple all those clubs right, he can kick

2418
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 5: it Assie style, he can kick it American, you know,

2419
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 5: traditional punts. I that's kind of fun. I don't know,

2420
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 5: punters not fun normally, but that's kind of fun.

2421
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:40,559
Speaker 1: Like what do you want today?

2422
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 2: What you like?

2423
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe it changes it up on the

2424
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 5: returner and like all of a sudden you have this

2425
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 5: line drive Ozsie Rules punk coming at you and you're like,

2426
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 5: what the heck do I do like this?

2427
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: It's like a punk troll. He just he's going to

2428
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 1: give you a screwy punt every time to do I

2429
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:54,480
Speaker 1: like it.

2430
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: It's like a picture, you know. I've got five punts in.

2431
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,480
Speaker 5: He said, I have different clubs that we can do anything.

2432
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: Out Hey, Marcel writes in I'd like to ask Evan

2433
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:07,640
Speaker 2: what he thinks about Isaiah McGuire out of Missouri. I

2434
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 2: like him as a stand up edge player to sit

2435
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 2: behind Judnan while also pushing out Jennings for snaps. Early on.

2436
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: His Senior Bowl was pretty underwhelming, but I thought he

2437
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 2: had one of the better tapes against Broderick Jones. He

2438
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 2: was also Maszoo's sack and tackle for Lost Leader for

2439
01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: two straight years.

2440
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the tape him against Broderick Jones. I

2441
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 5: thought Broderick Jones was a little bit better than some

2442
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 5: other people in that game. But Isaiah McGuire definitely showed

2443
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 5: you a little bit of something with his hand fighting,

2444
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 5: in particular against Broderick, which is one of the issues

2445
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 5: exactly like that. One of the issues that Brodick Jones

2446
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,479
Speaker 5: has is in his technique and his pas sets. So

2447
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 5: I like Isaiah McGuire is like a fourth, fifth, sixth round,

2448
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 5: you know, somewhere there on day three. That's okay.

2449
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 1: He's a good one who's like you're going through the

2450
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 1: PFF thing like Isaiah McGuire. Those guys that are always

2451
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: just always sitting there doing a mock draft.

2452
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 5: I just I look at this edge class and there

2453
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 5: realistically could be like nine or ten guys in the

2454
01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 5: top fifty at that position, and I just feel like

2455
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 5: they might just want to come away with one of

2456
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 5: those guys.

2457
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 2: Okay, what would you rather do? Stay put at fourteen,

2458
01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 2: pick whoever you want, but or trade down get Zay

2459
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: Flowers later and pick up an extra second round pick B.

2460
01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 2: You'd rather do B? Yeah, So there's no one at

2461
01:51:29,479 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 2: fourteen that you would like?

2462
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 1: No, if we can, I mean there should be. I

2463
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: mean I think, like you know, and if we're real

2464
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:36,919
Speaker 1: football talk.

2465
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 2: Like yes, I'm not talking about like somebody project the

2466
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 2: top five the falls, I mean someone realistically at fourteen.

2467
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:44,519
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I would probably I would probably do

2468
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: it just for the excitement and the potential of and

2469
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 1: it might only last until July and then we'd be like, oh,

2470
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: we really don't screwed that one up. We should have

2471
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 1: taken one of those left tackles or one of those

2472
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: stud corners. But you know, I talk about going out

2473
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: there on that Friday after the pick, going out there

2474
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 1: and see z flowers, like it would be electric. Everyone

2475
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 1: will be really fired.

2476
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,880
Speaker 5: To be a little worried. He think I'm stalking him,

2477
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 5: but I swear I'm not. But they're not gonna get

2478
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 5: a second round pick in a trade down, I don't

2479
01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 5: think unless they trade way down. So I don't know.

2480
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 5: That's a last year. It was the Commanders, and I

2481
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 5: can't remember the team that they traded up with. They

2482
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 5: one of the teams went from eleven to sixteen and

2483
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 5: they got a third and a fourth back for that move.

2484
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 5: So that to me, I think if you're thinking about

2485
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 5: trading down from fourteen to let's say nineteen twenty.

2486
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Like you're not getting a thirty something.

2487
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 5: You're not getting a second round pick out of it.

2488
01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 5: Could you get another top one hundred, probably, but I

2489
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,720
Speaker 5: think you're looking at more like a package of third

2490
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 5: and fourth or like a third this year and maybe

2491
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,639
Speaker 5: you get that second next year or something along those lines.

2492
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 5: But just getting a straight up second round pick and

2493
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 5: the math doesn't work out there, and.

2494
01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 1: Then it gets dicey if you're talking about, well, we're

2495
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna trade down to thirty or five and then maybe

2496
01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:04,799
Speaker 1: but still it's those.

2497
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 5: Small trade downs, right that that I think. I looked

2498
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 5: at the what was traded last year, last couple of years.

2499
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 5: ESPN actually puts it all in one one sheet for you.

2500
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 5: I looked at that and I was like, I think

2501
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 5: it'd be generous to say that you're going to get

2502
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 5: a second round pick for a small trade down.

2503
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 1: Was those those three what is the three fourth round

2504
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: picks I think that they have?

2505
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 3: Is that?

2506
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 8: Right?

2507
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Like? Those are the ammo in the you know, to

2508
01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: get back up. I think in the second round.

2509
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:33,240
Speaker 5: When they traded up for Barmore, they went from basically

2510
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 5: the same exact spot. I think they were like forty

2511
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 5: six to thirty eight or forty five to thirty eight

2512
01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 5: or something like that, and they gave up two fourth

2513
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,439
Speaker 5: round picks to get back up into the thirties.

2514
01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:45,919
Speaker 1: That's the move I think, to me get somebody at fourteen,

2515
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: then go up from from forty six and get into

2516
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: the thirties.

2517
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 5: Maybe to get somebody.

2518
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 2: Okay, quick trivia game. These are all regular season stats

2519
01:53:56,439 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 2: taken from Pro Football References site. First question and as

2520
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:03,599
Speaker 2: Damon Hewart, David Gibbons, and this player are the only

2521
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 2: three Patriots of the early two thousands to attempt to

2522
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: pass but never complete one. Damon Hewart never completed a

2523
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 2: pass in that seems weird to me.

2524
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: I was going to say Viny Testaverdi just the random

2525
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,879
Speaker 1: guy who but I think he completed Oh yes, right,

2526
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: the Patriots.

2527
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 2: He's not a quarterback. Troy Brown. Troy Brown. The Patriots

2528
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 2: have their most wins against the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins.

2529
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:33,879
Speaker 2: Who do The Patriots have their fourth most wins against

2530
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:35,520
Speaker 2: the Colts.

2531
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: Correct, somebody? They played a lot?

2532
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:43,360
Speaker 2: Colts Corey, Dlon, Garrett, Blunt or Blount, as will say

2533
01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 2: in this player, are tom Brady's only running backs with

2534
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 2: more than twenty five rushing touchdown Patriots rushing touchdowns Blunt, Dylan,

2535
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,240
Speaker 2: tom Brady only running backs with more than twenty five.

2536
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 5: Antoine Smith here long enough?

2537
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 2: Uh, maybe not the answer.

2538
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean Ridley had a lot, but not that one.

2539
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: He didn't fumble a lot.

2540
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: It's a clue.

2541
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:14,240
Speaker 5: Then it's Jarvis Greenell.

2542
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 2: What is the one team the Patriots have only lost

2543
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 2: to once? What is the only team the Patriots have

2544
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 2: only lost to once?

2545
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 5: The Jacksonville Jackuars.

2546
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 2: That's correct? Ever, Yeah, I guess.

2547
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: So hot game.

2548
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 5: Who says it first?

2549
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 2: And then Evan says? Who has more interceptions as a Patriot?

2550
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:41,760
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel J. C. Jackson or Fred Marion? God J C.

2551
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 1: Jackson fred Marion?

2552
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:49,640
Speaker 2: Fred Marion is correct? Uh few more? Who has more

2553
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 2: punts as a Patriots quarterback? Bledsoe or Castle?

2554
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 1: Punt punts? I'm gonna say Castle because I don't remember

2555
01:55:57,840 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 1: bloodsoever punch.

2556
01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 2: Castle's correct? With one week seventeen couple fifty seven yards.

2557
01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 1: That's pretty good role. But they're not expecting Remember that

2558
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: went against ten then versus kept rolling.

2559
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 5: That was when we used to flip the bird to

2560
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 5: the team on the way behind.

2561
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 2: What percentage of the league do the Patriots not have

2562
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 2: a playoff win against? This is hard one. Yeah, what

2563
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 2: percentage of the league do the Patriots not have a

2564
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: playoff win against?

2565
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 5: I mean it's kind to be close to fifty because

2566
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 5: there was NFC.

2567
01:56:29,760 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: Don't you only get to play them in the I'm

2568
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 1: going to say forty.

2569
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 2: Forty point six thirteen teams.

2570
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 11: Uh.

2571
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 2: And finally, who had more sacks as a Patriot? Dominic

2572
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 2: Easily or Tommy Kelly.

2573
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, Tommy Kelly.

2574
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 8: Uh.

2575
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: I mean I remember Easily playing a few games. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say easily.

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Speaker 2: Tommy Kelly two and a hay Verse two.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was looking at their their first round picks from

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Speaker 5: the last ten years, and we talk about it as

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Speaker 5: a recent thing, but they they went, I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: been a long time, like Dominic Easily, Malcolm Brown, like

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Speaker 5: those picks are in there too, with you know, the

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Speaker 5: Nikhil Harry's and all that.

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Speaker 2: Easily was a terrible pick. I mean, yeah, I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget the day he walked out for his you know

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Speaker 2: thing with the crafts and his knees were knocking together,

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Speaker 2: and we're like, this guy ain't gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, right then, I think that he's he's

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Speaker 1: worthy of. I don't know if they did like a

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Speaker 1: thirty for thirty Patriots bloggers, that would be worth the story,

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Speaker 1: because for some reason, that was the worst kept secret.

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Speaker 1: Like everybody, like Jerry Horton still takes laps about like that.

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Speaker 1: But we were everyone knew, Like I feel like everybody

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Speaker 1: had a source that it's going to be Dominique easily,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody nailed that pick. And I mean I got

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Speaker 1: it at the time. I saw what they were going for.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, an explosive interior who gets off

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Speaker 1: the ball like you wouldn't believe. But yeah, he couldn't.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't maintain his acls.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, that's gonna do it for this

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. Well, hold on, Matthew and you

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Speaker 2: can talk to the guys on Catch twenty two because

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Speaker 2: they're coming up next here on the Patriots Podcast Network

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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two with Evan and Alex Barth. They'll be

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Speaker 2: talking draft I believe, uh so maybe just a little bit.

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