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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're going

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Speaker 1: trash talking, the intimidation tactics, and the training room.

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Speaker 2: Sideie has got to be so good.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, February eleventh, and on today's show, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to NWSL Commissioner Jessica Berman about what the league makes

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Speaker 1: of the recent migration of top stars to Europe, whether

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Speaker 1: the new CBA was a tough sell to owners, and

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Speaker 1: its values under the new presidential administration. Plus a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl celebration we can get behind. Pro women's lacrosse is

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Speaker 1: finally here, and your favorite players odds of winning on

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Speaker 1: Rivals one B one Attorney just got slightly better. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up right after this welcome back slices. Here's

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Speaker 1: what you need to know today. Un Rivals one on

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Speaker 1: one Attorney got under way last night, and ahead of

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Speaker 1: tip off, the league announced that just twenty three players

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Speaker 1: a decision that the league said was made quote due

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Speaker 1: regular season games end quote. As a result, seven players

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Speaker 1: will now receive buys for the first round, causing the

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Speaker 1: league to change up Monday's tourney schedule and hold just

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Speaker 2: Now we're recording this before.

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Speaker 1: The one v one action tipped off, so in our reality,

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Speaker 1: our brackets are still perfect.

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Speaker 2: Let's go team.

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Speaker 1: The second round and the quarterfinals continued tonight at seven

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on True TV to the WNBA, where the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Fever announced on Monday that the team has mutually

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Speaker 1: parted ways with forward Katie Luce Samuelson, who was with

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Speaker 1: giving birth to her daughter. Because Samuelson was signed to

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Speaker 2: Now, we'll be real with y'all. We were a little confused.

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Speaker 1: About how exactly this quote unquote divorce deal kind of

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Speaker 1: a story from Richard Cone at her Hoopstats that does

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Speaker 1: like these, even if it means they aren't pocketing guaranteed money. Samuelson,

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Alexa Philippo, the six y three Forard has been

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Speaker 1: in conversation with four WNBA teams. She'll be on the

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Speaker 1: free agent. To hockey, the PWHL is back in action tonight,

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Speaker 1: With Frost defender and badass med school student Claire Thompson

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Speaker 1: The Maybolene Women's Lacrosse League competition gets underway tonight as

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Speaker 1: best to former Iowa basketball player Ava Jones, who announced

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Speaker 1: Ava with a brain injury. IOWA honored her basketball scholarship,

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Speaker 1: We want to give a quick shout out to Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles assistant sports performance coach Autumn Lockwood, who became the

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Speaker 1: My conversation with NWSL Commissioner Jessica Berman, who I spoke

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Speaker 2: Stick around.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now the commissioner of the National Women's Soccer

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Speaker 1: League since twenty twenty two. A Michigan undergrad and a

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Speaker 1: Fordham Law School product, she spent time with the National

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Speaker 1: Football League and National Lacrosse League before joining the NWSL.

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Speaker 1: Winner of the Sports Business Journals twenty twenty four, Executive

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Speaker 1: of the Year. Mom of two occasionally mistaken for Marley

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Speaker 1: Mattlin and one hell of a Dancer, it's Jessica Berman.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love that intro, Hi.

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Speaker 4: Anyone, thank you're Marley Mattlin and Radio Row Today.

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Speaker 3: You're my first. But I have heard it before.

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Speaker 1: I mean when we went to the NWSLPA party, the

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Speaker 1: I posted it to Instagram, Soon's like, is that Marley Mattlin?

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Speaker 3: That was a fun night, very fun.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the biggest news of the

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Speaker 5: And when we say we want to be the best

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Speaker 5: It's going to keep us on our toes, keep us

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Speaker 1: That's such a great point. It's so jinguistic of us

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Speaker 5: We're like, look up the eleven players who came into

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Speaker 1: Well, we certainly saw that last year rite with ten

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Speaker 4: Was that a hard sell to owners? What did those

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Speaker 5: Surprisingly not to most people. It was actually our choice

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Speaker 5: And so we've always said since twenty twenty two when

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Speaker 5: that wasn't serving us any longer, and in a world

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Speaker 5: We didn't want to have artificial impediments or obstacles to

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Speaker 5: women's soccer in the US was not in sync with

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Speaker 5: the rest of the world's rules. And so we remove

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Speaker 5: those barriers and it's actually when I got the Innovator

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Speaker 5: part because of that, and really testament goes to our

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and particularly obviously, abolishing the college draft is a

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Speaker 1: We just talked about players feeling safe, and you said

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Speaker 2: You've walked up to the stage.

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Speaker 1: You said, I can't believe I haven't been on your

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Speaker 4: A confirmation that you'll come back anytime. We'll get to

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Thanks to Jessica for stopping by. We got to

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Speaker 1: You're cute who you send in candy hearts to this

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Speaker 2: Come on back, Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to

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Speaker 2: Thank you anonymous slice.

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