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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive. Sweetie.

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Speaker 1: I am Christahine Hazlet, and today we have with us

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Speaker 1: none other than miss Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having met.

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Speaker 1: No, Seriously, it's been a long time come.

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Speaker 2: We've been saying we're gonna figure out something, whether it

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Speaker 2: be lunch, whether it be a dinner or something, if

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Speaker 2: you haven't an event or if I'm having one, but

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Speaker 2: our schedules could never align. So you know, everything works

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Speaker 2: in divine order in time, and I think this is perfect.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm so happy you're here. We

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Speaker 1: like to start the show with the song girl quote

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Speaker 1: And when I think of you, I think of authenticity.

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Speaker 1: You are just so authentically you and I love that.

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Speaker 1: And this quote says true belonging doesn't require you to

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Speaker 1: change who you are. It requires you to be who

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Speaker 1: you are. And I feel like that is exactly what

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Speaker 1: you embody like you are just who you are. You

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Speaker 1: see is what you get and people love you for that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes they do.

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Speaker 1: The first time I really like learned about you was

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Speaker 1: I'm not really a reality TV show person, but I

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Speaker 1: saw you on the show Star. Yes, I absolutely loved

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Speaker 1: you on start and then I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: remember this, but my friend Shavine, who.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's my baby daughter, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I came on set to see her and

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Speaker 1: you were walking with Queen Latifa and we stopped and

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Speaker 1: spoke for a second. This before we actually met at

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Speaker 1: Kim Blackwells event last year, the Gallentine's event, but that

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Speaker 1: was before we had met actually talked. So we like

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Speaker 1: spoke shortly and I was like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: love his energy. And then we met again at Kim

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Speaker 1: black Kim Blackwells.

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Speaker 2: Event at the Gallant Geos, and you know, I do

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Speaker 2: remember that, but I more so remember us talking a

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Speaker 2: little more in depth at the at the Sisters event.

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Speaker 1: Yes, remember that really really chat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was good.

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Speaker 1: I love that. So I would like to tell people

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Speaker 1: how we met. But I remember that, and ever since then,

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Speaker 1: we've chatted on Instagram and I keep up with you

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Speaker 1: on the on Interiram. What you have going on?

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Speaker 2: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Yes, but we're so happy to have you here. And

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Speaker 1: everyone knows you from television and social media, but we

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Speaker 1: want to take it back and saying who was miss

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Speaker 1: Lawrence growing up? Where are you from? We want to

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Speaker 1: know all the.

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Speaker 2: Things I am a real, real Georgia Peach. Hey I

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Speaker 2: have I have labeled myself as the Atlanta Mother. I'm

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Speaker 2: born and raised right here in Atlanta, on the South

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Speaker 2: side of Atlanta. I'm from the South side of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Growing up, I was not Miss Lawrence. I was just

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Speaker 2: I was just Lawrence. You know, I'm a junior. People

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Speaker 2: always gag I'm a junior hunty By. Look. I just

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Speaker 2: told some about it the other last night. I was

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Speaker 2: somewhere that they said you were a junior. I said, yes, honey,

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Speaker 2: turns out I was a junior Missus. But yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: life was it was good. It was interesting, but it

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Speaker 2: was good. I think the best part about me growing

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Speaker 2: up in Atlanta is that I did not have one

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Speaker 2: of those families that ostracized me for embracing the missus

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Speaker 2: and me, and I was able to just to just

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Speaker 2: be myself. But a lot of that came from my mother.

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Speaker 2: I would have to I would have to say, because

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Speaker 2: my mother her biggest teachings. And I think most you know, households,

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Speaker 2: especially in black culture, don't lie, don't tell. Don't lie,

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Speaker 2: whether it's did you did you get them chips out

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Speaker 2: the cabinet or did you pick this up that you

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Speaker 2: don't tell or don't you lie. But I applied that

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Speaker 2: principle in everything and everything, so I never knew how

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Speaker 2: to be, how to hide. I never knew how to

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Speaker 2: be something other than what I felt on the inside

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Speaker 2: because I was taught not to lie. Now, I don't

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Speaker 2: think my parents knew that that principle would apply in

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Speaker 2: that way. I don't think they knew that when I

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Speaker 2: to pick a dilly, going to Red Lobster for a birthday.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they knew that when they said, don't lie. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm putting this vasilina and it's gon serve as my

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Speaker 2: lip loss. I don't think they knew that. But again,

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Speaker 2: I was taught not to lie, and I literally, you know,

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Speaker 2: my journey as a as a as an adolescent, as

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Speaker 2: a teenager has been just that. I walked to the

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Speaker 2: beat of my own drum, and I walked and delivered

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Speaker 2: what I felt in the moment in the in the era.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. So what was it like when you

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Speaker 1: realize there's something different about me, not I'm not like

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Speaker 1: the other boys that I see on the playground, when

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Speaker 2: I had cousins in them. They would remind me of that,

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Speaker 2: you know, well you know, you know some of my

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Speaker 2: all loved, you know, you know, of course, you you

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Speaker 2: know I got teased, you know, in school. I was

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Speaker 2: never bullied. Thought, I have to say, I was never bullied,

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Speaker 2: but you know, we get teased and you know, stuff

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Speaker 2: like that. So I knew. I knew then that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I was not something that society was used to or

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Speaker 2: know any other way to be when you like, early honey,

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Speaker 2: because I was always the dancer. I will always dance,

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Speaker 2: and I always do the latest dances, the uh, the

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Speaker 2: cabbage Patch, the all those. So I will always be

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Speaker 2: the one like, oh, come come dance. And they would

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Speaker 2: just fall out because it was always so gay, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was always so you know. And yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: was young. I was young. I don't not even a

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Speaker 2: teenager yet. Wow, yeah, yeah, not even a teenager yet.

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Speaker 2: And my parents, Lord, they tried they bands. They they

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Speaker 2: had me play football, they had put me in the

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Speaker 2: boys scouts, all of it worked. All of it. They tried,

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Speaker 2: they tried everything, you know. But see when I started,

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Speaker 2: when I played football, I became really good at it

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Speaker 2: because and me and my friend we just talked about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday. I'm going to be good at whatever it

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Speaker 2: is that I do, because you know that's it's no

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Speaker 2: other way. If I end up committing to something, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give it my all and whether I like

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Speaker 2: it or not. I didn't want to play football, but

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Speaker 2: I became good at it so much so that the

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Speaker 2: coach reached out to my father the following season was like,

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Speaker 2: we want to have him back as quarterback. I. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it again. I'm not doing that again.

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Speaker 2: Y'all tried it one time. I'm still a sissy. It

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Speaker 2: didn't work.

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Speaker 1: So what did you enjoy as a kid.

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Speaker 2: I'd always love the arts. I loved singing, I love

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Speaker 2: playing dress up. Yeah, stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you said I don't want to do

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Speaker 1: this anymore, what did your dad say?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I mean, I you know, I think he was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this ain't you know, this ain't working. But again, there

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Speaker 2: was no there was no harshness. Yeah that was that

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Speaker 2: was no hard. I mean, don't get me wrong, we

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Speaker 2: had moments that did not feel good, you know. But

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Speaker 2: the older I got, the more I looked into why

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Speaker 2: we are the way we are as black people, as

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Speaker 2: black families and are discontent. I understood their position and

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Speaker 2: the lack of knowledge around acceptance, and that helped me

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Speaker 2: to heal any wounds from that period of my life.

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Speaker 1: Could you tell, because I do want to expand on

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Speaker 1: that because I know there are some younger men right

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Speaker 1: that with their parents. Would you share, like some of

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Speaker 1: those tough moments and like how you actually navigated do

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to tell you. I kind

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Speaker 2: of delved into my purpose, right, So going back, I said,

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Speaker 2: I always love the artists. I love singing, I love

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Speaker 2: you know, the performing art, dancing, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So going into my mid to late teens, I became

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Speaker 2: a hairstylist early, at like age fifteen years old because

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Speaker 2: I was really good with my hands, and I always

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Speaker 2: loved beauty, and I'm in particular I love black women

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Speaker 2: and beauty, right, all things beauty, and I became really, really,

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Speaker 2: really good at it, and in my late teens early twenties,

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Speaker 2: felt like in my mind, I had to show my

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Speaker 2: about about black gay men or flamboyantly black gay men,

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Speaker 2: that we won't be successful or that we won't have

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Speaker 2: a fair shot at life was not true. And so

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Speaker 2: I became really really successful at an early age. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's when a lot of the you know,

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Speaker 2: my family. Now, a lot of damage had already been done,

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Speaker 2: do I have that conversation with my gay child? But

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Speaker 2: I know nothing about gay sex or anything like that

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Speaker 2: about that. But I later learned that it's not we

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Speaker 2: put we make it hard. If it's a conversation about sex,

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Speaker 2: it's a conversation about sex, whether it's gay or not,

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Speaker 2: whether a person is you know, same gender loving or not.

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Speaker 2: The conversation about is about sex.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: But to their defense, they didn't know that. They didn't

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Speaker 2: And that's okay. And that is when I leaned to

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Speaker 2: I now call my chosen family. That's what chosen family

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Speaker 2: comes from. When you don't get all of the you know,

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Speaker 2: I guess the emotional support that you might need at

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Speaker 2: home are the emotional intelligence that you need from your family.

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Speaker 2: You venture out and you find like minded people, people

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Speaker 2: that can tell you, no, you are a spot on

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Speaker 2: with who you are. And it's those people that added

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Speaker 2: a lot of growth factors to me. Now a lot

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Speaker 2: of my foundation again, relationship with God, my commitment to

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Speaker 2: working and providing for myself, having stability and structure. I

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, okay. I love that we talked about your relationship

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Speaker 1: with God. I know a lot of times there is

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Speaker 1: the homosexual community. I had went to a church before

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Speaker 1: it was here in Atlanta, and the pastor like spoke

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Speaker 1: out against homosexuality and how he did not agree with it.

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Speaker 1: And then the moment that I ended up leaving the

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Speaker 1: church was when because it made a little uncofortable because

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Speaker 1: feel like we're supposed to love everyone, no matter their choices,

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Speaker 1: because God told us to lead with love. We talked

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Speaker 1: about that last night, leading with love, like you do

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Speaker 1: what you want to do. I'm not here to judge you.

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Speaker 1: Only God can do yes and lead with that. And

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Speaker 1: this homosex, I mean he was clearly a homosexual man

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Speaker 1: had coming to the church. He was sitting on the

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Speaker 2: He went instead amongst the people because it was the

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Speaker 1: kill people and we over here judging somebody for loving somebody.

437
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Can go down the list and they were all.

438
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Yes, every last one of them. So who are we

439
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: to judge? Who are we to judge when God chose?

440
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Like he said, I want y'all, Oh, this is so good.

441
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 1: Something else I want to talk about now that we're on,

442
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: like the judgment and there's so much discrimination, like on

443
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: social media and people trying to expose people in Adam.

444
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I was having this conversation with my brother Marquis. We're like,

445
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: it's nobody's business, Like, why are you so worried about

446
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: what somebody else is doing?

447
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: It's so sad, And I just I'm like, why are

448
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: we going backwards?

449
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: Man?

450
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: Why are we going backwards? There is so much work

451
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 2: that has to be done with us in our culture,

452
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 2: in our community. First of all, let us pay attention

453
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: to that thing that phone.

454
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, that tool social media, and how if

455
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 6: we have allowed it to be the thing to weaponize

456
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 6: us and our relationship with each other.

457
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: And I have my theory that that is exactly what

458
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: it was intended for, because we've all heard that saying

459
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 2: that you know, history repeats, everything that goes around comes around.

460
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: It's just it just looks different. Now if you go

461
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: back to, you know, when they try to cause division

462
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: amongst us with classism, yes, and black families. You know,

463
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: you had the upperly mobile negroes, and then you had

464
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 2: the negroes in the hood. You know, you can't sit

465
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: with us, you can. Social media has become that exact

466
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: same thing, and we are disproportionately as Black people affected

467
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: by it. And it is so easy to use homophobia

468
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: as one of the greatest tools to conquer and divide us.

469
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: While we are on the precipice of another presidential election,

470
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, while we are still fighting for women's rights,

471
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: while we are still fighting to make sure that our

472
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: black brothers and our black fathers, and our black sons

473
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: have the protection and the support that they need from

474
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: social injustices, police injustices, you name it. All of these

475
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: things that we should be standing as a united front for.

476
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: We can't do it because we are so distracted by

477
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: this little thing in our hand and somebody's weird, negative,

478
00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: ill informed opinion about someone's sexuality and who they choose

479
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: to love or lay down with. You know, And I

480
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know how to get I don't

481
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: know when we will all get on one accord and

482
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: trying to fix that for myself. During the pandemic, I

483
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,719
Speaker 2: started having these dinners called Plated Purpose. Miss Lawrence Presents

484
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: played it purpose and it was created to bridge the

485
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: gap between the black straight community and the black LGBTQ community.

486
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: And it started for several reasons. One, when I was

487
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: a hairstyleist before I retired, one of my long term

488
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 2: clients told me that, you know, one of her sons

489
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: was gay. That I had never heard about him, but

490
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: I knew some of her other kids. I never knew

491
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: about that one. And I said, oh, I never met him.

492
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: She said, yeah, well he doesn't talk to us. And

493
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, oh, okay, And I said well, she said,

494
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: I don't know. He won't talk to us us. And

495
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: I said, well, did you all ever make him feel

496
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: a certain type of way, you know? And she said no, no,

497
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't an intention. When he was younger,

498
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 2: she said, we would try and buy them little trucks

499
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 2: and shit, but you know, and she said, we didn't

500
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: know what to do with him.

501
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: We didn't know what to do.

502
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: Wow, I And she was broken. Here's someone in their

503
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: late sixties going into their seventies and she's broken because

504
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: she does not have wholeness in her family because of

505
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: a construct that shouldn't be there. And I told her,

506
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: I said, well, what happens is when you all lack

507
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: the emotional intelligence to support your child because they are gay,

508
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 2: are gay presenting or transpresenting or whatever, whatever, anything that

509
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: doesn't align with what you think value are well, what

510
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: you think how they're supposed to go, and you don't

511
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: know how to show up for them emotionally and support

512
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: them mentally. I said, when they become of age and

513
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: they go outside, they go find it somewhere else, And

514
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: that is where chosen families come from. And so they

515
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: go find the support that they need. God gives them

516
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: what they need. Maybe you couldn't give it. Maybe God

517
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: couldn't use you because you wouldn't allow him to use

518
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: you to show up for that baby the way that

519
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: you should have. But God placed it on somebody else

520
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: and he got it, so there is now no need

521
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: for you all. So that is where the absence come from.

522
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: And when I saw the hurt in her eyes, I

523
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: could feel her pain and I said, it's so unfair

524
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: because it's not your fault and it's not his fault

525
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: and we just got to communicate that. We got to

526
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: we have to both understand on both have to understand

527
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: where we have our faults and the part that we

528
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: played in it. That was one thing. Another thing was

529
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: the whole thing about when the baby, the rapper the baby,

530
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: when he had his whole debacle about the what they

531
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 2: called the homophobic slur, homophobic comment or whatever that was made.

532
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: And in my opinion, when I went and listened to

533
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: it carefully, and I did not hear him use, I

534
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: did not hear him use the F word. I didn't

535
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: hear him call anybody ASSISSI. I didn't hear I didn't

536
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: hear any of that. I did hear exactly what he said.

537
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: And he said put your phones or light your phones

538
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: or whatever if you ain't not here, giving nobody aids

539
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: if you ain't got aids, which is very wrong to say,

540
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: because that is something that affects all of us, not gay,

541
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: not straight, but everybody, but everybody. Now, his DJ said

542
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: some homophobius, but he himself did not. However, when it

543
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: came out the baby getting canceled for homophobics, and I said, no, no, no, mm,

544
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: who's putting that out there? Yeah, because that's not what

545
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: I heard. Now, what he said was really wrong.

546
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was terrible, poor judgment and definitely shouldn't.

547
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: And if you, if you, if you look closely, if somebody,

548
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: if he was getting canceled for homophobic remarks or slurs,

549
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't every rapper from back in the day be canceled, every.

550
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: One of 'em?

551
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: So how was he? What was No? What it was

552
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: was that you said something by HIV and AIDS and

553
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: that not only affects the black people, it affect the

554
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: white people too.

555
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

556
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: And so when you looked at the people that spoke

557
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: out about it, yes, when you saw Elton John, when

558
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: you saw Madonna, when you saw them speak out. Now

559
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: he's canceled, But our black brothers and sisters, they perceived

560
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: it as, oh, the gay community canceling our straight brother

561
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: because he said. So that's not what happened, but that's

562
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: how it was put out there, which caused further division.

563
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: And so that was another thing. And I got on

564
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: the phone with my dear friend April Ryan, and I said,

565
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 2: we got to figure something out. We got to have

566
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: a family meeting, because what's happening is happening on purpose,

567
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: and somebody got to gotta educate and matriculate us on

568
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: each other on what's going on. And so it had

569
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: just been sitting on me and sitting on me, like

570
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: what you know? What can I do? And I'm only

571
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: one person, but somebody got to start somewhere. Yeah, And

572
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I'm the first to start it.

573
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I knew I had to do what

574
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: I felt on my spirit, and I was like, what

575
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: can I do? I gotta figure out something. And I

576
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: have a very close friend of shawna Ayres, and I

577
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: was talking to her. She's like, we want to do

578
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: something about it. What are you gonna do something about it?

579
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Because I be in arguments with her some of my

580
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: other straight friends They're like, well no, well no, because

581
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: the gay community y'all already got there. I was like, no,

582
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: don't do the y'all thing. Don't do the y'all thing.

583
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: We don't everybody don't fit under that rainbow umbrella. Know

584
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: who that umbrella was designed for. And you will discover

585
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: you would discover a lot of bifurcation there. You would

586
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: discover a lot of separatism there. You will discover that

587
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: a lot of your black gay brothers and sisters is

588
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: left on the outside of the umbrella. We don't have

589
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: full full protection like people think we do. Again, we

590
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: are not a monolithic group. And she said, Okay, what

591
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: are you gonna do? Figure out something? I myself, I

592
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: want to maybe I need to have maybe let me

593
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: figure out something because I have been put in a

594
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: position where I know the language of both sides. I

595
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: was a hairstylist for twenty years every and I was

596
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: able to live a very good life for myself because

597
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 2: of Black women that allowed me to be in service

598
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: to them at an early age. When society told me

599
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: I would not have a lovely home to live in

600
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: or I would not be able to do this or

601
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: do that, God say yes you will, and I'm gonna

602
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: use these sisters to make sure it happens. And in return,

603
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: you're gonna edify them, You're gonna affirm them. And so

604
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: that is what our relationship has always been. Like myself

605
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: with black women, and for every black woman that sat

606
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: in my chair, that was a whole family that I

607
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 2: got to touch, including their husbands, including their children. Ye,

608
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: so I understand the language of both sides. And then

609
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: when I go over on this side to my community,

610
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: my people, my oyster's, my village, y, my black LGBTQ

611
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters. And I understand their frustrations what they

612
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 2: might not have been, you know, as fortunate to have

613
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: the type of relationships that I've had with with with

614
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: heterosexual people are straight people. I know their language too, yeah,

615
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: because it is also my language. And I said, well,

616
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: I'm in a position where I could bring it together

617
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: and let's try to fix this. Y. And so my

618
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: friend and Shanna said, well, do something so fast forward.

619
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna do a dinner. I'm'a do a dinner.

620
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm invite maybe ten people from the black LGBTQ community,

621
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: ten from the the t black straight community. I reached

622
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: out to Ingrid best. You know Ingrid, right, I love Ingrid.

623
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: Have to shout her. I love Ingriand at that time,

624
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: she was head of marketing for Sarah and I asked her,

625
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: I said there. I sent her a text and I said,

626
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: we are approaching Black Pride Month in Atlanta. I said,

627
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 2: during Pride Month, during Pride Month in June, we're approaching

628
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: Black Pride weekend in Atlanta. However, in June it's Pride

629
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Month and you have a there's an outpouring of brands

630
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 2: that support Pride Month, but if you go and take

631
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: inventory of who benefits. At that time, we were very

632
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: far in few between when I mean black LGBTQ people,

633
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 2: and I said, I would love for a black founded

634
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: liquor brand to support Black Pride in Atlanta. I want

635
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: to host an event. I want to put together an

636
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: event to bridge the gap between the black straight and

637
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: the black LGBTQ community. Would that you support me? And

638
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: she said, whatever you need. Yes, literally funded my whole

639
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: dinner and it was the most beautiful thing. Everybody came

640
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: that I invited. I had Beby Smith who came and

641
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: did a unity toast, our brother Kenny Burns. Andrew Day

642
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: came and she had just want her golden globing. She

643
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: hopped on a plane and came to the dinner. Our

644
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: dear sister Davine and Joy came Patrick em Polk. I

645
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: mean you name it, Kim Page from B E T.

646
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: I mean everybody. There was a lot of support, a

647
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: lot of support from my brothers and sisters on both sides.

648
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: And I knew that I was onto something because you know,

649
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: some of the people came up afterwards and says, I'm charged,

650
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: and what can we do? Because the goal is and

651
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: then the call to action is to go out and

652
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: share the information, not about the event, but share the

653
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: information about the disconnect and why the disconnect has happened

654
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: and why it's been done on purpose. And so I

655
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: started plated purpose for that reason. And so far, so good.

656
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: We just need more of those.

657
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Now.

658
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: Now here's the here's the ugly side to it. Right,

659
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: when you're out doing good, it gets no attention. When

660
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: you're trying to make a difference, when you're trying to

661
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: make it, don't get it gets no attention. But I

662
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: do have my first Then I do have to I

663
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: do have to thank Bossip and balla Alert because they

664
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 2: did they covered it and they mentioned it. But when

665
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: when you're when you're shedding light on what our issues

666
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: are at a possible solution to fix it, it garners

667
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: no attention. That's the part that we the powers that be,

668
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: the people that have influence, the people that know, the

669
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: people that know, the people that run, the people that

670
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: run the run the board and click the buttons, spread

671
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: the information about how we're wrong. The stuff they out

672
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: here doing to what meet Meal? And uh who else

673
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: they clown Shannon Sharp? They clo Shannon Shark right now?

674
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: Why but they're not the next breath. Oh we gotta

675
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: protect our black brothers.

676
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: But you're not protecting them. You're creating lies and.

677
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: Just you're forcing them to go into a hiding space,

678
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 2: not that they have anything to hide from, but you're

679
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: now playing or trying to push them into this this

680
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: space of insecurity that they can't welcome them whole selves,

681
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: their whole selves into society without somebody judging them because

682
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: they may gesture a way that some people might think

683
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: it's inappropriate or isn't of the norm. It is baffling, it.

684
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: Is And yeah, I did see those both of those,

685
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: and I'm actually really good friends with me. I don't

686
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: know Shannon, but like I'm just like, why do people

687
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: do that? And then your heart goes out because people

688
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: don't understand. I was also talking to Marcus about this too,

689
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: how and devout how our life when we're in the light,

690
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: it becomes other people's entertainment and they literally do not

691
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: have any concept of how they can have an impact

692
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: on us when they're constantly judging or making accusations or

693
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: just making a comment and having an opinion about every

694
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: part of our lives.

695
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: It's crazy because not to make this about Meek Meal,

696
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: but he has had one of the most I don't

697
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: even know glorified turn up songs, lit whatever they dreams

698
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: and nightmare, yes classic, I don't care where you go

699
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: in this world, Yeah, in this world, in this world. Yeah,

700
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 2: when you hear that you write a sense of power

701
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: you do.

702
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

703
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: You feel a sense of power. It inspires you in

704
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: some way in that moment. It could be as small

705
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 2: as inspiring you to want to buy a bottle. It

706
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: can inspire you to go work harder so you can

707
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: get your dream car, your dream house.

708
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: What to go harder?

709
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 2: But isn't that the work that we're supposed to be doing.

710
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 2: And he's done it one song, That one song has

711
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: done it for so many people. Not making this about

712
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: that song, I'm just using that as an example. But

713
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: look how quick people can forget. But look how quick

714
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: people forget.

715
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

716
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

717
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: People have real life stuff going on that you have

718
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: no idea about, and then you just want to tear

719
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: somebody down.

720
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 2: You want to tell somebody down now, don't get me wrong.

721
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: There are some people that have done wrong, that have

722
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: done some really ugly things. Yeah, and yes it is.

723
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: It is our kind of innate reaction to blast them

724
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: and clown them. But in all things, I think everybody

725
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: deserves grace.

726
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: They do, that's good.

727
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: I think in everything everybody deserves grace. Yes, And until

728
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: you can get to that point to extend grace, keep

729
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: your mouth shut so that you don't create stripes of

730
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,479
Speaker 2: your own.

731
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: That part, because if the same people who are doing

732
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: that that that will not give other people grace, they

733
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: forget the grace they be living. And like, what if

734
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: the stuff that you've done was exposed? You know what

735
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying?

736
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: Keep living? Yeah, keep living because you will do something,

737
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: whether people see it or not, you will do something

738
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: that is gonna set your spirit so uneasy. Yes, you know, yeah, grace.

739
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I love that. That is so good. All right, So

740
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: I want to switch gears a little bit. You went

741
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: from hairstylis being a silas for twenty years to becoming

742
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: a hair stye on Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then you

743
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: ended up being a star on Lee Daniels Starr. You

744
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: played Oh I forgot this? You were so good in

745
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: this movie The United States versus Billions so good. Yes,

746
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: And then the movie Bros. What Really Wanted made you

747
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: want to tap into the acting part.

748
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: It all came to me. It fell into my lap.

749
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: I swear to you. I didn't go after any of it.

750
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: I did not. Yes. I was a hairstylist for quite

751
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: some time and because I was good at it, one

752
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: of the best. And I don't and I you know,

753
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: I try to stay as mid as possible, but I

754
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: was one of the best.

755
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: Did you do hat on hair shows?

756
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: I used to do the hair shows. I used to

757
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: do the hair shows, all of it, and I I

758
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: garnered a very an extensive clientele. And one of my

759
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: clients early on was Charade with Phil from Real Housewives.

760
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: She was a very close friend of mine, or is

761
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: a very close friend of mine, and when they were

762
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: starting Housewives, she asked me to come on the show

763
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: with her. I didn't think much about it. I'm like, okay,

764
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: come on there and do you have okay cool whatever?

765
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: I do that anyway, and I did it, and I

766
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: became a fan favorite, so much so that eventually Andy

767
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: Cohen asked me, would I be interested in doing another show?

768
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: And that show was called Fashion Queens that I did

769
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 2: with Bebby Smith and Derek j. That was very successful. Yeah,

770
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 2: And it was very successful. We ran for three seasons,

771
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: and during that time, Lee Daniels was a fan of

772
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: Fashion Queens. He and his partner would watch Fashion Queens

773
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: and I met him one day in Los Angeles and

774
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 2: he came and introduced himself to me, and he just

775
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: said that he was a fan and he loved the

776
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: show and for me to tell Baby Smith, he said hello,

777
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: because he and Bevy are friends. Fast forward to one day,

778
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: he reaches out to Bevy and he's like, someone told

779
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: me that Miss Lawrence can sing. And she's like, oh

780
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: my god, like a bird. Yeah, And he said, have

781
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: him record something and send it to me, and I did.

782
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: I recorded because he was entertaining doing a movie on Sylvester,

783
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: who was an iconic disco artist, legend icon And so

784
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: I went to my hotel room that night and I

785
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: sang one of Sylvester's Almighty Real, and I sent it

786
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 2: to Bevy and she sent it to him. By that Monday,

787
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: when I had got back home from New York, he

788
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: called me and he's like, oh my god, I didn't

789
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: know you. He said, I'm gonna do something with you,

790
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: and I was like, hey, great. You know, I didn't

791
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: think much about it. Let me tell you really quick

792
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: because I know we're But it's always been kind of

793
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: hard for me to get really excited off the bat

794
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: when it comes to stuff like that, because there's that

795
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome. There's those small voices in my head. You know.

796
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: I guess you would call it trauma or whatever that says,

797
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you ain't gonna get me so far, now,

798
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: calm down, you ain't go give us so far. So

799
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: it would be hard for me to get excited, you know.

800
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: But I listen, I'm like, okay, great, you know I

801
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: can't wait. Fast forward. He reached out. He says, I'm

802
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna put you on Empire. I'm gonna put you on

803
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: the first episode, second season of Empire, and I went

804
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: I did it. He had me singing Mighty real on

805
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: laying on a piano in one of the scenes. I

806
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 2: got invited to the premiere at Carnegie Hall, and when

807
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: my scene came up, the room went crazy. And because

808
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: of the response. As he was creating the show Star,

809
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: he created the role for me Miss Bruce, and from

810
00:46:52,520 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: that he when he was developing or writing The United

811
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: States Versus Billy Holiday, he said, there is there is

812
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: a person that was very close to Billy named It's Freddy.

813
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: He said, I think you would be great for that role.

814
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: He said, but you're gonna have the audition for this one.

815
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, I got no problem. And I

816
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: studied and I studied and I studied, and I got

817
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 2: the job. Thank you. I got the job. And you

818
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: know that led into the creators of Brose, Billy Eichner,

819
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: and Judd Appetite, all of them. They noticed me, and

820
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: when they were creating the movie Bros. They reached out

821
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: to my team and had me to audition for that

822
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 2: and so I got that job. And so it all

823
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: just kind of fell in my lap. So I didn't

824
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: have I never had that period of silence. I've always

825
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: worked from the time I was my first job, I

826
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: was fourteen years old. I lied on application and everything

827
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: to get a job. That one time. Now, at one time,

828
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: I did a lot because I wanted that job. I

829
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: wanted that job at the gumbo shop at the airport

830
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: because I wanted to buy my own blouses and lip

831
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: gloss for my mom, and I would not buy it.

832
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: So I had to get me a job so I

833
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: could buy the stuff that I wanted, and so I

834
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 2: did a lot of that time, and so I never

835
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: had a break and I love working fast forward. So

836
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 2: that's how it all fell in my left. That's how

837
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: my career just kind of fell in my left. But

838
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: it was all about divine order, right, because remember my

839
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: original passion was the arts. I loved singing, dancing and

840
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: dah da da da, right, but I abandoned it because

841
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: listening to the naysayers, the world was not going to

842
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 2: accept me for that, and probably back then though, but

843
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 2: you know, look where we are. And so I gave

844
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: the beauty industry and ten percent of myself. I nurtured

845
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: that gift. I gave it away. I taught it to

846
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: seven phenomenal hairstyles that are all very successful right now.

847
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: And because I did my work and I did my

848
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: job there, that is a thing that created space and

849
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: the gift that made room for me to come back

850
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: to my original passion. Because had it not been for

851
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: me being good, had it not been for me being unselfish,

852
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have made it to a

853
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: Housewives that led to a Fashion Queens that led to

854
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: Empire that led to star that led to the United

855
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: States Versability Holiday that led to Bros that led to

856
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: the Deliverance. It wouldn't have been any of that. So

857
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: my biggest note to people is nurture the gifts that

858
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: God gave you. Don't be selfish with it. Poured into

859
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 2: other people, because the more you poured, the more you

860
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: you can be filled up. And that is a thing

861
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: that's gonna make room for you. That's gonna make room

862
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: for your gifts, for you to grow in places that

863
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: you didn't think you were gonna be able to go

864
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: because I had no idea. I had no idea. Now,

865
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: the challenging part came when we go into a pandemic.

866
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: It ain't no work, ain't work now I'm sitting at

867
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: home now. I've always had a very healthy appetite for

868
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: nice things, clothes, handbags, jewelry, you know, da da da,

869
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: And I said, okay, it ain't no work.

870
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: How I'm supposed to get my things.

871
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get my things. I want to think about bills,

872
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: those will still being those were you know, everything was

873
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: set up on automatic. I'm Okay, who but how I'm

874
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: gonna get my other stuff? Well, fast forward, it's another

875
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: year into the pandemic. Still ain't no work. So now

876
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about bills.

877
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

878
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: Now I'm seeing them little numbers trickle down that I

879
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: at one point had stacked up so high. Oh yeah,

880
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: a boh tat so high? And I said, okay. So

881
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: then I got into you know, I had speaking engagements

882
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: here and there, kept the lights on. Great come out

883
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 2: of the pandemic. Strike, We're going to do a strike.

884
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: What're you talking about? Stroke?

885
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 1: Right?

886
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: Strike? Why is the work? Where are my things? Where

887
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: is my Alexander McQueen, where's my sonel? Where's my guitar?

888
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: Where are all of my silly material things? Where is it? Then?

889
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 2: Then Mother's Day of twenty twenty three, I woke up

890
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 2: to a phone call that my father was not well.

891
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: Actually I didn't know my father at the time. My

892
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: sister called and she's really upset. She's like, you gotta

893
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: get here. And I get to the house, to my parents' house,

894
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 2: and my father is on the stretcher and they're working

895
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: on them. And my father's to my knowledge, had always

896
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: been very healthy, not one thing wrong with him. He

897
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: would have been eighty this year. No, he would have

898
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: been eighty. He would be eighty one this year. My

899
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: daddy was still mowing lawns. He was a workaholic. That's

900
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 2: where I know a lot of my work ethics came from.

901
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Remember going back to my foundation. Lo and behold my

902
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: father passes away abruptly on Mother's Day. God, what part

903
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 2: of the plan is this?

904
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: What is going on?

905
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: I now have my mother that I have to take

906
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: care of her household, have to help out with. You know,

907
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: my niece lot ain't no work. So now I'm not

908
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 2: concerned about my things anymore. I'm now concerned about making

909
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 2: sure my mama them is okay. You know that's a

910
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: type of pressure. Damn me. I will be all I'm

911
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 2: gonna figure it out. But now how am I about

912
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: to do this?

913
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: You know?

914
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: And I have always been since a teenager or late teen,

915
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: since I've been working, I have always been a lender.

916
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: God has always blessed me to be a lender. Not

917
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: one time had I ever been put in a borrow receipt.

918
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 2: But I have to say that twenty twenty three showed

919
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 2: me what it was like to tap into your village,

920
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 2: meaning your friends, your chosen family, to allow them as

921
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: your ointment to rub on you and heal you. To

922
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: help her text you. I had to be put in

923
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: a borrower's seat so that I can so that I

924
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 2: have a new awareness about what it means to lend

925
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: on a whole other level once I'm placed back into

926
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: a lending seat. And it took a while to get that,

927
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: and it was someone told me that you're the reason

928
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: you're still above water and you haven't sink and you

929
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: won't is because you spent your entire teenage life into

930
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: your adult life pouring depositing into others. At some point

931
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: you have to be able to make withdraws. And so

932
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: I have been in a seizing of withdrawing, pulling out

933
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: of my spiritual savings account. Yes, and so the revelation

934
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: that the Holy Spirit gave me was it's not even

935
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: about money. It's not about the material things. It is

936
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: about the relationships and the connections and utilizing the vessels

937
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: that I have placed in your life. That's what it is.

938
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: And I'm so thankful that I had the experience in

939
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, as painful as it was, I'm thankful

940
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: because my outlook and my optimism on twenty twenty four

941
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: is unmatched. And I've never been here mentally. Wow, I've

942
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: never been here and been so more assured of what's coming.

943
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: You know. I feel like a whole different type of adult.

944
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: I ain't concerned about that foolish just thought. I don't

945
00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: keep your bags keep all of that stuff, honey, because

946
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: it's not important. God the baby, God showed me that's

947
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: not important.

948
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: The same thing happened to me last year doing the strike.

949
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: And I think too, like when we when we start

950
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: making a lot of money, the things that we've always wanted,

951
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: it's like, oh now I can get it. So now

952
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: we're like, give me that, give me that, give me that,

953
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: give me that, give me that. And then once you

954
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: buy it, it's like, okay, what else? So on? And

955
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: then you go get the cars you want, and you're like,

956
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: what else, honey?

957
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 2: Because let me tell you something. When life happens like

958
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: it did for me, like it did for us, like

959
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: it did for a lot of people, Yeah, you send

960
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: it home with all that stuff in your closet, and

961
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: you can go out and you can fake like everything

962
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: is peaches and cream. But you so crazy feeling on

963
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: the inside, and that stuff don't make you feel good.

964
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: It is not.

965
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 2: It does not make you feel good. You might look good,

966
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: yeah you might. I don't look like what I've been through, right,

967
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 2: But that's a gift and a curse because the more

968
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: you go out and you don't look like what you're

969
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: going through. Yeah, and you don't know how to open

970
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: your mouth and tell people about what you going through.

971
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: How you go get help?

972
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: Come on, now, how you go get help? That's real.

973
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: I had to unlock another level of vulnerability. Yeah, and

974
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 2: transparency with my friends. Yeah, with my closest friends, you know,

975
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: and now even with strangers. I open my mouth now,

976
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: yeah when I need help.

977
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you have to.

978
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

979
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: I love that. And I'm glad you're on the other

980
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: side of that as well. Yeah.

981
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: God is good.

982
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: He is so good. He is. That strike in that

983
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: time it set me down for a minute, and then

984
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: it made me realize coming out of it, things I

985
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: thought were so important and just like wanting to look

986
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: a certain way, and oh, I can get this, and

987
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: this is what I really want because I'm into fashion

988
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: and bags and all the things. And then once I

989
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: came out of I was telling one of my castmates.

990
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm not gonna wear my

991
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: money as much. I want to put it in other places.

992
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: You know.

993
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: It really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

994
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sayding, Like one year, I lively sent

995
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: like one hundred thousand dollars just in Demons alone, baby,

996
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: and my red was so happy.

997
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: He was, Girl, I'm still that name of my name

998
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 2: of Marcus Charge because I'm still paying that down. I'm like, wow,

999
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: still paying that down, you know. But you know, I

1000
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: learned that it's not it's not what's on you, it's

1001
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: what's in you.

1002
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1003
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: And if what's in you is is right in an

1004
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: alignment with your purpose, the purpose that God gave you,

1005
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna always shine brighter than inn it Rolex, than

1006
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: any label, than anything.

1007
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: Yep. So that's the word. We're gonna leave it on

1008
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: that one. I love that so good, No, thank you.

1009
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do what we call positive outcomes, where

1010
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: the listeners right into us and we give them advice. Okay,

1011
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: all right, So this one says, Hey, Crystal, I grew

1012
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: up in the church, and I want to start off

1013
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: by saying I love God with everything in me. I've

1014
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: always known that I was attracted to women. I'm literally

1015
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: happier than I've ever been with my fiance, who's a woman.

1016
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Why is it so hard for people to see that

1017
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: you can love God and be gay. It's really the

1018
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: hardest thing I've ever dealt with, the judgment by the church.

1019
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: I've lost Christian friends just by coming out. I literally

1020
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: fasted and prayed that God would take it away if

1021
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't right. I've struggled with my sexuality my whole life.

1022
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: Last year I came to a crossroads whether I should

1023
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: take my own life or live in my truth. While

1024
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to live in my truth, it's still so hard.

1025
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for me on how to

1026
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: navigate my truth and make people accept me for who

1027
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: I am. First of all, thank you so much for

1028
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: writing in. We talked about this. We talked about the

1029
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: judgment of the Church and Christians and how they choose

1030
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: certain things that they want to be very harsh on

1031
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: when it comes to being judgmental and being against I

1032
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: would say to you, one, do not go in to

1033
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: life wanting to make people accept it.

1034
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

1035
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: You know, you have to know this is who you are.

1036
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: You've prayed and fasted over this. If this is what

1037
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: you feel is for you, then you have to go

1038
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: with that. But you are never gonna find happiness seeking

1039
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: acceptance from other people.

1040
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: What it is You accept yourself first. Yeah, you have

1041
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: to you accept yourself first. Know God for yourself, not

1042
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: for don't don't understand God based on what somebody else

1043
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: told you who God is. Understand them and learn them

1044
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: for yourself and allow him to show up and you

1045
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, for yourself, and then you ask God to

1046
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 2: place the people in your life that get it, that

1047
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 2: get it, and then you go back when you're strong enough,

1048
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: and then you go back and you teach those that

1049
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: was ignorant. You know, you go back and teach it

1050
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 2: because that's that's that's our job.

1051
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. I love that, all right. So next

1052
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: thing we're gonna do is what I'm going through and

1053
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: what I'm growing through and for me on this day

1054
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: I woke up. I've been very open about this. I'm

1055
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: working on my potty mouth. You know, I have a

1056
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: custin spirit. And sometimes what I'm working on and the

1057
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: things that I want to you know, I don't want

1058
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: to talk like that, but sometimes you get around people

1059
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: comfortable with And our video had come out and I

1060
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: was like, don't where. I was like, is this bad?

1061
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: You know? And she's like, no, it was funny, And

1062
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: when you watch the whole video, it is actually funny

1063
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But I was like, dang, I want

1064
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: people judging that. I started getting in the comments like well,

1065
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 1: I've never heard her say that word, and I hate

1066
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: that word, and I don't know if I really like

1067
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: her and all these things, and I'm just like, oh gosh.

1068
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: I was like, did I make a mistake? So for me,

1069
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: it's working all my language and how I talk and

1070
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: express myself, but also not worrying about what everybody else

1071
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: has to say.

1072
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 2: You know. Ye, let me ask you a question. You

1073
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 2: don't want to curse any more? Why one?

1074
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: Because I mean, I feel like this the spiritual journey

1075
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm on right now, I want to feel like I'm

1076
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: completely walking in that, you know, and those are some

1077
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: things I just need to kind of let go of.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because this is something

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Speaker 2: me and and and my friend's mom. Okay, is it

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Speaker 2: because you have you understood the Bible to say cursing

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Speaker 2: was not right, because if so, where it in the Bible?

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Speaker 1: Then is there anywhere where where I can't curse? Because

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Speaker 1: I know you know it.

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Speaker 2: There's no such thing. Wow, it's another false teaching. God

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Speaker 2: did not say that. I ain't.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't be cut words.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Cussing, that's cursing.

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Speaker 2: The cursing is that curse? That's it placing negative pejoratives

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Speaker 2: on you? Just what you know? Yea speaking speaking speaking

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Speaker 2: on people in negative way, that's cursing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, cussing.

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Speaker 2: Somebody may just make no words? Who said that was bad?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: You get that from? You get that from now? Out

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Speaker 2: of respect to my elders because they're not there. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't cuss in front of my mama. You know

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Speaker 2: I won't do that. Yeah, but I'm gonna cuss, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna cuss you out sometimes. I'm not gonna curse you.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wish anything bad or ill on you,

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Speaker 2: but I might call you some cuss words. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: do that. If you cut me off at a light,

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Speaker 2: you do something stupid, you're gonna be everything, MFA, you

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Speaker 2: name it, You're gonna be all of it.

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Speaker 5: But I think I think that that that that though.

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Speaker 5: Is I love that you answer that question because I

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Speaker 5: think that it's a thing of like.

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Speaker 4: Is it because you believe.

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Speaker 5: That because of the walk that you're on, there's an

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Speaker 5: expectation of perfection?

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Speaker 4: Or is it because you have the convict?

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Speaker 1: What is perfection a cancer? That's my therapi, she said,

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Speaker 1: because I used to be like, I'm just perfection because

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Speaker 1: the BO says strive for a perfection. But she was like,

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Speaker 1: when you're literally trying to be perfect, she was like,

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Speaker 1: it's a cancer.

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Speaker 2: Drive yourself crazy, crazy, Go drive yourself crazy. Just be honest. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just be honest. That's it. Yeah, you a beautiful woman,

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Speaker 2: you speak well, you're smart, you're talented, that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. But I cuess and you just don't have

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Speaker 1: enough From time to time what you say language come on.

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Speaker 4: On something you heard, so you say whatever you're saying.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I'm givings on that, but it's still it's

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Speaker 3: a vocabular word that I mean us to show you.

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Speaker 2: How strong.

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Speaker 1: It really came from. Like I'm passionate about this and

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Speaker 1: I really want you to know what I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get across. So what about you it's Lawrence, what are

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Speaker 1: you going through? What are you growing through?

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Speaker 2: I am going through, uh a growth spurt right now,

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Speaker 2: and it's not it's uncomfortable, but in a good way

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Speaker 2: because I have opened up new areas that I've never

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Speaker 2: tapped into in my you know, in my life that

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about. So I'm growing to you know, venture

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Speaker 2: into new business arenas, into real estate, into you know,

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Speaker 2: a deeper level or a bigger level of entrepreneurship all

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Speaker 2: of that, and growing pains comes with that. And the

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Speaker 2: growing pain part is, you know, having to really exercise

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Speaker 2: your faith, which is believing and seeing the things that

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Speaker 2: are not there yet, you know, but you know it's happening,

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Speaker 2: and so you just keep walking towards it because you

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Speaker 2: see it. You see it, but you know in your

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Speaker 2: mind you don't have you we think the enemy will

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Speaker 2: make us think that we don't have the necessary tools

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Speaker 2: to get there. But it's there. Is that that's the

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Speaker 2: growing pain part. Yeah, But I am. I am growing

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Speaker 2: into a new level of abundance that I am so

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Speaker 2: excited about. Yeah. But you know, because I am now

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Speaker 2: a more aware and responsible individual, I will now be

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Speaker 2: more responsible with my gifts and my fruit.

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Speaker 1: Come on now. Yeah, that's good. I love that. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm taking all that. That's that's good. I

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Speaker 1: needed that. And thank you for helping me with that.

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not telling you to go on Instagram like yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want you, you know, beating yourself up

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Speaker 2: because you might be on online and you might say

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Speaker 2: a cuss word here.

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Speaker 1: That what we're human, right, yeah, you're right. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: the close that we say, we fill in the blank

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Speaker 1: of keep it blank, sweetie. And this week and based

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Speaker 1: on what we've been talking about, I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: keep it graceful, sweetie, have grace with yourself and grace

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Speaker 1: with others.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna have to say, keep it honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep it honest. That is it. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Miss Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: You've been amazing. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Your energy was just phenomenal. Thank you, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you. I love this.

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: If you want to write into our open listener letter,

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Speaker 1: please write it to keep it pot of Sweete at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com. That is sweety with an ie. You

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Speaker 1: can follow me on all platforms at love Christ Doorine,

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Speaker 1: that's l U V Chris doorinee. Miss Lawrence. Tell the

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Speaker 1: people they can find you.

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Speaker 2: You can find me on all social media platforms that

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Speaker 2: Miss Lawrence and that's M. S. S. Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Love it.

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Speaker 2: I like w R E N c Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let them know there we go. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: have that on the bottom too. Make sure you guys

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Speaker 1: tap in with him. Thank you so much. Thank you seriously.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, in between times, you guys know what

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Speaker 1: to do. Keep it passitive. Sweet Heavenly Father, we.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for this moment, Father God. We

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Speaker 7: thank you for bringing us together today. We thank you

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Speaker 7: for bringing Miss Laurence carl here safely.

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Speaker 1: Lord.

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Speaker 7: We just asked, Father God, that you bless us time together. Lord,

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Speaker 7: open up Miss Lorrences and Crystal's heart, Father God, so

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Speaker 7: that they can speak openly to the people, vulnerably to

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Speaker 7: the people, Father God, so that they may receive what

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Speaker 7: you want them to hear.

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Speaker 1: Lord.

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Speaker 7: And we just ask you to guide their tongue, their speech,

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Speaker 7: their hearts, Father God, as they share openly and vulnerably.

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Speaker 7: We thank you for this time together, and may glorify

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Speaker 7: you and your name We pray amen Amen,