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Speaker 1: M. Welcome back to Behind the Bastards legally the only podcast. Um,

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Speaker 1: We've we've achieved our domination of global media, and it

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Speaker 1: the Internet. So stuck on that, losers. Yeah, we imperialized podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me just at the period catch. I'm

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Speaker 1: about to throw you a diamond through the iPad M. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a flesh. I also just date some potatoes. I apologize.

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Speaker 1: He also just ate some potatoes. He apologizes properly. How

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Speaker 1: are you still doing? How are you feeling after part one?

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I feel the way I think everyone

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Speaker 1: every guest feels after slightly defeated, feeling like I knew

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Speaker 1: this but I didn't know it. And my day is

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Speaker 1: great because I enjoyed talking to y'all. But yeah, but

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Speaker 1: also like the feeling between part one and part two

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Speaker 1: of every episode of this podcast, you just know that

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Speaker 1: it's going to get worse. It's all you get worse. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're just like impending you guys got a two day break, Yes,

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Speaker 1: impending doom. But also I'm still thinking about him flashing

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Speaker 1: his diamonds at parties. Just the flex of that, Like

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Speaker 1: how I feel about that because it's he sucks, but

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Speaker 1: it's so fucking cool. But like, yeah, got to respect

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Speaker 1: the hustle sometimes rest like goddamn, okay, yeah so uh.

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Speaker 1: In that last episode, I didn't go into overwhelming detail

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Speaker 1: about all of the Cape Colony politicking, but Cecil engaged in.

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Speaker 1: But he was not just building a business, going to

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Speaker 1: to when he was back, you know home in in

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Speaker 1: in England were often held at like a Nancy Astor's house.

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Speaker 1: that story about like Winston Churchill, where like some lady

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Speaker 1: or less how it goes. Yeah, So she's like one

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Speaker 1: he's here, there's no there's I don't know. We've reached

426
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: we've reached pinnacle Bastard. Yeah, peakee Bastard here. It doesn't

427
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't get it doesn't get much worse than this.

428
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gross under as underestimated this guy. He's

429
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: fucking Hitler level, you know, if you're talking about like

430
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: the most influential pieces of ship in history. He's there's

431
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: not there's a number of folks at his level. There's

432
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: not a lot of people i'd put above him, clearly,

433
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could put yeah not it's yeah,

434
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, a lot of time for the top of

435
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: that list. Yeah yeah yeah. Anyway, you know what isn't

436
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: the sole proprietor of two countries illegally conquered by a

437
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: mercenary police force, the products of services, none of them,

438
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: none of them until I conquer my own country in

439
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: present day Idaho, Um and use it as a basis

440
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: from which to declare war on the f d A. M.

441
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 1: That's the plan. I wouldn't mind you redeeming Idaho. Yeah,

442
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: pretty beautiful. Do it together. We can harness the power

443
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: of Idaho to wipe out the fd I think actually

444
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: I would have a lot of support in Idaho for

445
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: taking on the f d A, mostly from people who

446
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: want to sell brain pills. But anyway, um, we could

447
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: probably ally with Utah. Anyway, here's the ads. We're back,

448
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: we're back, and we're talking about cecil. So he gets

449
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: elected Prime Minister for the second time, and now that

450
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: he's at the height of his power, he's really got

451
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: everything under control. He's just gotten his second election. He

452
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: turns to the thing the party episode where you're like,

453
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: here it is, you're at the top of the roller coaster,

454
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: and he's about to just like the part we're at,

455
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: the part where he invinced apartheid. Um yea. So he

456
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: decides that the focus of his second term as Prime

457
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: Minister is going to be dealing with what he called

458
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: the native question. Now, motherfucker. If you know fascists, you

459
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: know that when people have a question about a race

460
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: that they keep referring to as the blank question, it

461
00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: doesn't end well. Ever, the Trajet jury is predictable. Yeah, okay, yeah.

462
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: Uh So from the founder quote that biography of Rhodes,

463
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: Rhodes employed this skillfully obtained unprecedented and largely unquestioned matter

464
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: of measure of decisive political power to continue rearranging relations

465
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: between blacks and whites. He had introduced radical notions in

466
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: this domain during the legislative years from eighteen ninety to

467
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two, from eighteen ninety three, and dramatically after

468
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: his electoral triumph in eighteen ninety four, must much of

469
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: Rhodes's considerable political energy was directed at to rewriting the

470
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: Cape Statute books in wage ways which might have appeared

471
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: limited and parochial at the time, but which were profoundly

472
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: to alter the contours and reach of discrimination throughout South

473
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: and even Southern Africa. He viewed burgeoning African numbers as

474
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: a clear danger to white superiority and to the emerging

475
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: coalition of Dutch and English speaking colonialists. Together, Rhodes and

476
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: his allies acted to undercut the established tradition of Cape

477
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: liberal him That's what I was talking about earlier. The

478
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: liberal is the idea that all men are equal, and

479
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: we have to even if we all don't really believe it,

480
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: we have to hold to that because it's important. Um,

481
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: Even the most antagonistic of the Cape's legislators and the

482
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: most die hard leaders of the Bond, which is one

483
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: of the political sort of factions there, had hitherto been

484
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: hesitant to erode the principle that all persons, irrespective of color,

485
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: were equal before the law, one of Britain's priceless nineteenth

486
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: century gifts to the Cape and thus to South Africa.

487
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: During rhodes premiership, however, other more expedient objectives of achieved precedence,

488
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah Man when I think about like this, it's like

489
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: it's hard to not picture Jim Crow and be like, oh,

490
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: this is if you carry Jim Crow out to its

491
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: logical conclusions and then leave it until the nineties. Yeah,

492
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: that's yeah. Yeah, gosh yeah dude. Yeah, and and that

493
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: and and it's like you go when yeah, the question,

494
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: the native question, it's like, uh, of course this is

495
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: what you're gonna come up with. Of course it is. Yeah, yeah,

496
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: keep reading Roberts so um yeah he his main objective

497
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: here is white supremacy. Um and and again, white supremacy

498
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: in a very modern way. And the best thing that

499
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: illustrates his drive to white supremacy and everything that, like

500
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: how his thought process worked and the way in which

501
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: he took action to to further that goal. The best

502
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: thing that illustrates that is Rhodes's plan to push through

503
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: the passage of what was called the Glenn Gray Act. Now,

504
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Glenn Gray was a district in the Cape Colony that

505
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: had essentially been a reservation for for one group of

506
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: of African natives. Quote. Like most reservations, Glenn Gray was

507
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: overcrowded and overgrazed. Many of its male inhabitants had already

508
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: begun to seek work from whites in the colony. Others, meanwhile,

509
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: had crowded into Glenn Gray from more distant or less

510
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: settled frontier areas. Whites, especially Dutch seeking farmers, coveted its

511
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: fertile valleys. In a microcosm, Glen Gray presented most of

512
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: the problems found in the recently if only partially assimilated

513
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: frontier districts. There was a clear need to remove sources

514
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: of friction among Africans and between Africans and whites. Land

515
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: was at the root of most disputes, but to grant

516
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: individual tenure meant at least the possibility of a flood

517
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: of newly entitled black voters, conceivably less pressure on Africans

518
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: to seek work, and a host of ancillary questions with

519
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: local and cape wide budgetary limitations. There also was the

520
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: danger that whites would purchase the newly salable black owned

521
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: farms and thus thrust vast numbers of landless black families

522
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: onto the colony. So Rhodes was really worried that white

523
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: families also would buy up land owned by Africans and

524
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: moved there in the middle of land dominated by Africans,

525
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: and then you would have communities of white and black

526
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: people cohabitating. Rhads also thought was unacceptable because if people

527
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: are living in the same communities, they're going to funk eventually.

528
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: That's just the ways are like, that's just what's gonna happen, Like,

529
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: it's just is the thing that happens with people. Um.

530
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: So he had to find a solution to this problem

531
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: that achieved a few goals. Number one, it had to

532
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: steal back most of the land that African tribes held

533
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: in common because at this point before the Glenn Gray Act,

534
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: that we're talking about communally owned land that's like this,

535
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: this tribe owns this parcel of land. Um. So you

536
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: have to stop that because communally owned land is not

537
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: good for the kind of world that Cecil Roads wants

538
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: to build. Um. So you have to get most of

539
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: that land back on the market somehow. You also can't

540
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: make it look like naked theft. And so that means

541
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: you're going to be parceling at least a lot of

542
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: this land up and giving it to individual Black Africans.

543
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: But that's a problem because the way the laws and

544
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: the Caper crafted, if you own property, you get to vote.

545
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: So communally owned property doesn't haunt for that. But if

546
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: you're going to be giving a bunch of Africans property,

547
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: suddenly that's a bunch of new voters. And Cecil Rhodes

548
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: does not want that ship happening. Okay, y'all voting now

549
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: because yea, yeah, yeah, So dude, parallel in even in

550
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: that that like pickle of like yeah, after reconstruction and

551
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: like you know, uh and all of a sudden America

552
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: started electing a ton of black people, it was like, okay,

553
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: wait a minute, we can't well, yeah to today. A

554
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: story just dropped today from the Cambridge Analytical Leaks that

555
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: one of the things they were used for by the

556
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: Trump administration was to put together a list of between

557
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: three and five million black Americans that they wanted to

558
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: and considered it critical to discourage from voting. Oh my god,

559
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: because again every couple of generations, you're able to be

560
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: less naked about the racism. But the goal was the same,

561
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: stop them from having a say in their own interests.

562
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: Nailed it, yep. So uh yeah. Since Glenn Gray was

563
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: representative of so many frontier parts of the colony, it

564
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: was evident to Cecil that this new law would lay

565
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: the basis for native and white relations across Africa for

566
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: the future. This meant, obviously that the new law would

567
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: have to be constructed in a way that reinforced white

568
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: supremacy and enshrined it into South African law forever, no

569
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: matter what Great Britain's enlightened liberal values said. Cecil told

570
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: Parliament the legislature must adopt a system of despotism and

571
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: its relations with the barbarians of South Africa. The legislature

572
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: has got to treat the natives where they are in

573
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: a state of barbarism in a different way to ourselves.

574
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: We ought to be the lord's over them today desperately.

575
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: If you're saying we have to be despots, you are

576
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: the bad guys. Yes, yes, like like like just have

577
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: just just the just the smidge of self awareness and

578
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: like just yeah, that's all I'm asking, Just just just

579
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: have a little, just a little self awareness. It's not good,

580
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: by and large to be a despot. That's why we

581
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: came up with a nasty name for it, like a despot.

582
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: I wish that I wish the listeners could hear me,

583
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: see me flail in my arms in agreement. Doc the

584
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: pretzel Pepe we bend ourselves in to protect power. There's

585
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: been a lot of head head nodding, head shaking, arms

586
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: flat and yeah, it shall continue. Yes, speaking of things

587
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: that shall continue this episode, So uh Rhodes told Parliament

588
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: that because of the debate over the Glenn Gray Act,

589
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,479
Speaker 1: the colony was in a state of racial emergency with

590
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: ballooning numbers. Yeah. Well, because increasing numbers of Black Africans

591
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: were either filling land white people wanted even worse, moving

592
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: to cities that white people lived in. And if you

593
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: have this population of people, this big underclass, you don't

594
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: have enough money, I'll live in cities. Some of them

595
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: might agitate for better living conditions and that could lead

596
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: to a revolution. He was also terrified that if you

597
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: gave Africans enough land, you know, enough of the land

598
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: that they already owned, Um, they might not get jobs

599
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: because they'd be able to take care of themselves. And again,

600
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: they are trying to induct Africa into the global capitalist

601
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: system at this point. So he's terrified that if they're

602
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: able to to see to their own needs in their

603
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: own land, what need do they have to get involved

604
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: in this system in which they will fundamentally have to

605
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: be under us, dude, when like just it's it's not

606
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: such a mind bender because I'm like, Okay, we was

607
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: taking care of ourselves before you got here. Yeah, we

608
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: did it for a long time. We did it for

609
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: a long time, a matter of fact, longer than any

610
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: other humans because this is Africa, so we was here

611
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: the whole time, and now you're worried about us being

612
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: able to take care of ours. And it's funny because

613
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: again I did read some defenses, modern defenses by modern

614
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: conservatives of Cecil Roads, and one thing I pointed as

615
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: that like he talked about, you know, he didn't he

616
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: wasn't racist. He just believed that, you know, British civilization

617
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: was superior, and it was. And it'll list you know

618
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: all in all of these tribes that he's conquering and

619
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: finding a lot of them do do the things like

620
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: female genital mutilation, things that are very horrible. Um, because

621
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: all groups of organized human beings do bad things. It's

622
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: just the thing that people do, period. And it's like, yes,

623
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: it's true, all of those tribes had problems and things

624
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: that like we're we're bad that they did. And the

625
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: British Empire starved thirty million people to death in order

626
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: to make a profit. So let's not fucking get up

627
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: on our high horses about the superiority of Anglo brit

628
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: like civili fucking exation, like come on yourself. Yeah, basically

629
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Just you can't say it, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

630
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: When did they start? And when did they start? Important

631
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: the Indians to like work? Because I know that that.

632
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: I think that's a later period. It does not come

633
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: up in my research, and this maybe that's happening in

634
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: this period. I'm sorry if I'm I don't want to

635
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: make a statement on that one way or the other

636
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: because it's not my area of expertise. Um, none of

637
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: this really is. But I at least read up on

638
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 1: this ship. Um. So Cecil claims to Parliament that without quote,

639
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: without the dignity of labor, Africans would live in sloth

640
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: and laziness. It was thus the government's job to give

641
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: them some gentle stimulants to go forth and find out

642
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: something of the dignity of labors. And he's saying this

643
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: about the people that have built his entire fortune with

644
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: their blood, sweat and teeth. Yes, that's like the men

645
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: who dug my diamonds. Need to understand the dignity of labor. Yes,

646
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: piece you piece of shit, like just the largest hole

647
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: in the world that we dug for. You tell me

648
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: I need to note a dignity of hard labor. Well.

649
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: And also it's really interesting to me he doesn't consider

650
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: farming to be labor because it doesn't necessarily feed into capitalism,

651
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: because you can farm and just live comfortably and share

652
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: contint with your neighbors and not need to be a

653
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: part of this this global system of money. Uh, because

654
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: you have food and shelter, and that's really all you need.

655
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: As long as you are able to make a musical

656
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: instrument and you've got gourds of ship you can make drums.

657
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: Like you've got music. You're fine. Food, shelter, fucket, Like

658
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: what else do you need? Nothing? It turns out apparently

659
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: apparently his greatest gift was stress, because that's where we needed, apparently,

660
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: just to worry about collecting more things we don't need.

661
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. So, after months of politicking and debate,

662
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Rhodes finally had a plan for this, the Glen Gray

663
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Act that he presents to Parliament. The basics of it

664
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: were this communal lands these reservations would be broken up

665
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: in pieces of them given to black families as individual lots. Now,

666
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: this had been proposed before by people other than Cecil,

667
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: and the legislators who had proposed it before wanted to

668
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: give out one the individual plots to be about a

669
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: hundred and ten acres, which they thought would be fair,

670
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: which is not a tiny chunk of lands. Big Rhodes

671
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: cut the allotments down to eight acres because he wanted

672
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: it to be impossible for these tiny farms to actually

673
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: make a profit. He didn't want them to be able

674
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: to compete with white people's farms, which were much larger

675
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: and industrial. He also banned partable inheritance, forcing the whole

676
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: parcel to be passed on intact. This ensured that only

677
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: the firstborn son of any family would get any land,

678
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: and other children in the family would have to leave

679
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: the family land to go get jobs. When it was

680
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: pointed out to him that white people were able to

681
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: pass down their property however the funk they wanted, he

682
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: replied that giving Africans equal rights quote, was not a

683
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: tenable position, which is not if you want the things

684
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 1: he wants, you can't be giving black people equal rights. Yeah,

685
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: he's not wrong. You know, he's so good at this.

686
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: He's very good at this, maybe the best anyone's ever been.

687
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: He's exceptional at this. He's exceptional at this thing. It

688
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: is one of those things we do talk about a

689
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: lot of mediocre white men who failed upwards. He's not media,

690
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: he's he's not he's very intell. He is actually he

691
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing and he's good at it. And

692
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: that is of heartbreaking consequence to the entire history of

693
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: the human race from this point on. Um So, in

694
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: order to ensure that absolutely every single black person in

695
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: the colony had to get a job, Rhodes instituted a

696
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: labor tax of ten shillings per head for every African,

697
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: which means you have to We've conquered your country and

698
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: now you have to pay every year to like checks

699
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: every bastardly box. It's amazing. I'm no longer I think

700
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: he sucks. One of the laws he passes, maybe the

701
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: most influential, but one of them he does a bunch

702
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: of this ship. So the tax meant that no longer

703
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: could Africans just stay unemployed and lived through hunting and farming,

704
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: like the way that people had survived for forever. They

705
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: couldn't do that anymore. They had to get hard currency somehow. Um,

706
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: and the landowners that were created by this were included

707
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: in this, so they couldn't just grow their own food

708
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: because he didn't think that it was really labor. He

709
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: wanted everyone do have to engage with capitalism in some

710
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: way and work. And it's so frustrating, so frustrating because

711
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: he's so remarkably in charge that like, yeah, there's you

712
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: have no recourse because he's like he's freakishly in charge.

713
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: One of the things I think Rotberg's a very good biographer.

714
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: One of my issues with him as he will repeatedly

715
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: talk about sort of cessil's ability to convince people of things,

716
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: as he had this kind of remarkable ability to to

717
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: convince other men of his vision. And he he talks

718
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: about all of the racist things Cecil does, but he

719
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: doesn't lay out in a way that I find as

720
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: direct as maybe at Auto be and again he wrote

721
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: it in Night, but um, he doesn't lay out very

722
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: directly the vision was white supremacy. That's why they all

723
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: got on board. Yes, I am speaking to the lowest

724
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: part of you that wants to believe you're better than

725
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: everybody else. Yeah, it's gonna work. So yeah, again and again,

726
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: back to sort of his this tax that he institutes

727
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: to even force the landowners to work, because he doesn't

728
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: consider growing food to be labor. I'm gonna quote from

729
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Rothberg here. Rhodes thought that he he being these small farmers,

730
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: would spend only three or four weeks sewing maize and

731
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: would truly not be working hard enough. It would be

732
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: wise if such a man also went out and worked

733
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: for a certain period. Now, one of his political opponents

734
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: at the time, another guy in parliament, commented to this sarcastically.

735
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: No toil, however, strenuous upon a native's own land was

736
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: dignified enough to satisfy the tax collector. So again, there

737
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: are white guys in politics who recognize how messed up

738
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: this is and do speak out. You know, he's he's

739
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: acknowledging that, like, it doesn't matter how hard they work

740
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: if it's for themselves. Cecil wants them working for white people.

741
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: It's not that they're not working, it's that they're not

742
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: working for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna continue

743
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: to quote. Stimulated by the labor tax rhads. The social

744
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: Darwinis suggested Africans would change for the better. Every black

745
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: man could not have three acres and a cow in

746
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: the future, he said, Africans would have to change as

747
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: a black man could not have three Africans would have

748
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: to change as the English had changed. It must be

749
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: brought home to them that in the future nine tenths

750
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: of them must would have to spend their lives in

751
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: manual labor. And the sooner that was brought home to them,

752
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: the better spend their lives. Yes, so now see some

753
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: of the supremacy stuff is like you you you start

754
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: being able to follow their train of logic. He is

755
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: well aware that Britannica was at one point a bunch

756
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: of feuding tribes that were just hunter gatherers with serfdom

757
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: and feudalism, and we have become this. So then when

758
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: you look at Africa, you go, oh, yeah, we used

759
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: to be like that in the tenth century. We're better

760
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: than you, you know, and just so like at least

761
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: it's like you following his logic at least, and I

762
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: mean that's the same, that's the proud boy logic of like, no,

763
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: we used to be like this we're better. No, yeah, no,

764
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: you're not. No, And a lot of you were miserable

765
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: because like the early industrial Age Victorian England, the cities

766
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: are fucking nightmares with factories where children's hands get mangled

767
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: and cool mines that killed people by the thousands. It's horrible.

768
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: The fucking the air was unbreathable. It would they had

769
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: poisoned their own country and had left because they wanted

770
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: to poison other people's cousin. Yes, like what was what

771
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: was the thing? The great London stink? Was that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

772
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: the stinch blossom or whatever that like made the city

773
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: almost unlivable and killed huge numbers of people because it

774
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: was a nightmare. There m The fact that they were

775
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: able to push their surplus population out to the colonies

776
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: and also move a lot of their manufacturing in resource

777
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: attraction out to the colonies is why England's pretty nice nowadays.

778
00:43:52,920 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So Additionally, Africans would find that they were

779
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: better off when they went to work. Rhoads promised to

780
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: spend the funds from the labor tax on industrial schools.

781
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: Think back to the residential school episodes that we did

782
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: on Canada, because it's the same thing and that the

783
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: US had where they put indigenous people, and that Australia

784
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: had where they put indigenous people. It is the same

785
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: thing where Africans could be caught taught trades and vocations,

786
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: not taught history, not taught you know, to, not taught

787
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: to seek their dreams out, taught how to be functional

788
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: cogs and capitalism. Rhodes thought, quote, South Africa had too

789
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: many schools which specialized in turning out a peculiar class

790
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: of human beings. The and he uses the K word again, person.

791
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Now the K word person was a most excellent type

792
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: of individual, said Rhods. But he belonged to a class

793
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: that was overdone. They became agitators and accused the government

794
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: of oppressing the common people. They constituted a dangerous class.

795
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: Remember that from the police episodes when we were talking

796
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: about over here. It's the same mother fucking thing everywhere

797
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: it happens thing. Yeah, yo, I as I said, I know,

798
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: I know people who went to the American Native schools

799
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: and we're yeah, and told horror stories that and it's yeah,

800
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: it's just samey kill the Indian to save the man

801
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: was the term they used. Totally. Yeah, and that's what

802
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: Rhodes would say, and he's not racist, because he's no.

803
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I have nothing against black people. I just want to

804
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: kill everything about them culturally that is different from the

805
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: way I want them to live. Yeah. So, rhodes Is

806
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: new law also banned the sale of Indigenous land to

807
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: white people. And this was not for any high minded reason.

808
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: It was because the Natives should be in Native reservations

809
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: and not mixed up with whites. Yeah, keep them away.

810
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: This is the start of apartheid. This is the birth

811
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: of sere segregation, legal segregation. Yeah. You have a place

812
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: to be and it's not near us. Yeah. Yeah, as

813
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: cool as long as they over there. Yeah. So again.

814
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: So the and finally, after all that, the Glen Gray

815
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: Act in in sured that all of these new landowning

816
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: black people would not get the right to vote, as

817
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: enshrined by the law. As he told Parliament, it was

818
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: really ridiculous to suppose that these poor children could be

819
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: taken out of this absolute barbarism and come to a

820
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: practical conclusion on politics. So the Act very simply banned

821
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: any Native enfranchised by the Glen Gray Bill from voting

822
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: in Cape elections. Roads justified this again by saying that

823
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: because the government protected their land, they had no real

824
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: light right to vote on it. Black people could not

825
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: be citizens as they were children. Several roads. Again the

826
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: the he wove a store. This is yeah, this is

827
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: why I'm saying. He took when a place that had

828
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: been caught like that was African land, conquered and dominated

829
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: by white people, and he made it worse and more racist.

830
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: This is where apartheid comes from. This is the legal

831
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: underpinning that all apartheid descends from. Is the ships Cecil

832
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: Rhodes was making. Happened in this period and it lasts

833
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: up until what like the late eighties, the early nine Yeah, yeah, yeah,

834
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: it's still like the impacts are still. It's still if

835
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: you yeah, every year, like I said, like I performed

836
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: there at least once a year. I got a homeboy

837
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: on the radio and Cape down my homeboy DJ Easy

838
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: and he's he's what they called colored under the system. Right.

839
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: So we're driving through Cape Town one of the like

840
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: this is the most beautiful like overlooking cliffs beach, like

841
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: it's a paradise, and he goes, Yo, my dad used

842
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: to work at this beach, but at sundown he had

843
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: to leave because colors weren't allowed on this beach, and

844
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you still, I'm like, that's your father, bro,

845
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Like that's this this, that's now. You know what I'm saying.

846
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: He talked about like people, you know, the police will

847
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: come in and stick a pencil in his hair to

848
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: make sure because if the pencil falls, then that means

849
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: he's black and not color and just all kinds of

850
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: just like this is he's on he's a DJ, he's

851
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: on the radio. Now, this is now. Yeah, that's why

852
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: Trevor no Is biography is title like born a crime,

853
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: right because he was he was his his one of

854
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: his parents was white and one was black, and yeah

855
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: that was colored and that's yeah, that's illegal and it's illegal.

856
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: Like Cecil Rhodes is the guy who it's not quite

857
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: banned in this period, but he's the guy who starts

858
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: that process starts. Why he part of his goal in

859
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,399
Speaker 1: this act was to make sure these people can't breed,

860
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: because if they breed, then they stop hating each other. Right,

861
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: people are falling in love, they don't want lesser rights

862
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: for the people they're in loved with. And that's going

863
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: to be a fucking problem for me. Cecil, Rhodes, So

864
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: you have to stop them from knowing each other. Speaking

865
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: of knowing each other, get to know the fine products

866
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: and services that support this podcast. All right, uh we're back,

867
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh my back, so good product. So the this the

868
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: one of the this is the greatest, like white supremacist Vanesse. Yeah,

869
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: it's amazing, incredible. The Glen Gray Act did create something

870
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: broadly analogous to local councils for these native reservations, so

871
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: that they could have an element of self government, but

872
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: even letting black people vote for their own local leaders

873
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: was too much for cecil. Instead, white people appointed all

874
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: of the council members, and the reservations were governed by

875
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: a white magistrate. He was supposed to teach them how

876
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: to take care of themselves. Yeah, yo, yeah, that's that,

877
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: that's the answer their children, you see. Yeah, which is

878
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: so such a god damn it and it's unique version

879
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: of white supremacy exactly. And Rhodes is, again, other people

880
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: are having this idea. You can even probably find some

881
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: people earlier who were talking about it. Rhodes is kind

882
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: of the first who explains it to other white people

883
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: in a way that gets them on board. And then

884
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: follows through in a really comprehensive fashion. And again, aspects

885
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: of this are are happening in the United States at

886
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: the time, aspects of this are happening in other parts

887
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: of the world. So he's not alone, but he's part

888
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: of the first wave of modern white supremacists, and in

889
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: some ways is probably the one who did the best

890
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: job of defining and explaining it. So uh Rothberg writes,

891
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: quote the Glenn Gray Bill was a forerunner of the

892
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: segregationist legislation of the twentieth century and of the combination

893
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: of laws which together constitute apartheid. But it was not

894
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: so much the content of the bill as it was

895
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: rhodes rhetoric and rationalizations which which prefigured the future what

896
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: modern readers appreciate as fatuous and solipsistic arguments mere fig

897
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: leaves for white supremacy and denials of African rights, where

898
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: those that Rhodes and all subsequent rulers in South Africa

899
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: have used to justify their departures from the natural law

900
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: and political culture of the Western world. It is a

901
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: testimony to Rhodes's force of character and quality of persuasion

902
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: that he, alone of likely Cape leaders, was able to

903
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: Arrange shut such shifts away from previous norms with ease.

904
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: It delineates his character too, that he did so with equanimity,

905
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: without shame, and with self righteous termination. Got dog when

906
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: you when you swear you're right? M m yeah, And

907
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: I can't I can't believe how long it lasts? Yeah,

908
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: damn ye yeah. And I'm like whatever, like did you

909
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: own two other countries? Man? Like, why you gotta do

910
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: you own? Man? Like, why you gotta do this way out? They? Yeah, yeah,

911
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: And it's it's because it's not enough. It's because the

912
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: world is what he wants. Oh, I forgot because the

913
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: because this is like manifest destiny only the glow. M

914
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: And again, he's the kind of white person who like

915
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: is angry because Americans are independent and they filled. But

916
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: like he talks a lot about the how the inferior

917
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Italian and Irish races and stuff are dominating in Germans

918
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: are dominating in America and that's why it should have

919
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: stayed under Anglo control. So he's like he's the kind

920
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: of racist who is sees shades of other white people

921
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: and like his judgmental it's like, oh, Italians, it's like

922
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: if you if you look at if you look at

923
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: Nazi propaganda, the degree in which I do. One of

924
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: the joking things that they will do is talk about

925
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: how the Axis was less racist than the Allies because

926
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Hitler had a black friend. And when they refer to that, right, yeah,

927
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: they're talking about Ussolini because Italians aren't white to them. Yes,

928
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: I felt so like like knowing that, like once, I yeah,

929
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: once I learned that, Like I had to take back

930
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: some of my own jokes that I used to feel, like, Yeah,

931
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: Italians were the black white people do y? I mean

932
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: they're they're like they're they're definitely like close. I mean

933
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: it's basically they're almost in the Middle East, right, Like

934
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: it's right across that fucking sea. Yes, yeah, that's what

935
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: racists are seeing. But that's what roast. So I'm like, dang,

936
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: I can't agree with racist, no, no, no, no, because

937
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying it endearing, like oh man, I like you

938
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: got big families, you're a loud ye gangsters. Yeah yeah,

939
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah. The things we should we should lovingly

940
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: make fun of Italians for is all of the hand

941
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: and gestures that we do and and and pizza pies. Uh,

942
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: that's fine. Don't, don't, don't do the race pizza pies. Yeah,

943
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: the pizza pies. No, I will though, but not here.

944
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. Yeah, that's fine. So Cecil Rhods

945
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: invented apartheid and the only good news is that he

946
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot more time in the sun after this.

947
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: After a very long streaming of successes, Roads got cocky

948
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: and he decided to deal with a problem that had

949
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: vexed him for years. The existence of the trans Vault,

950
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: which is this Boer state, becomes like, yeah, it's it's

951
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: a big chunk of like what becomes the culture of

952
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: South Africa. These are like the African ors African and

953
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: yeah and and and the Transvaal is an independent white

954
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: nation in South Africa. And this, the fact that it existed,

955
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: fucked up his dream of unifying the whole region under

956
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: British control. So, true Cecil Roads fashion, he hatched a

957
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: plan to steal the transvall. The basic idea was to

958
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: disguise it as an insurrection. Joe Hennisberg had a sizeable

959
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: population of British laborers and they were not content with

960
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: the Boer government. Through his agent Leander Jamieson, Rhodes convinced

961
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: these folks that if they recruited an army, he would

962
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 1: send in his own army and together they could crush

963
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: the Boars. And armies the wrong word for Rhodes force here.

964
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: He had six hundred policemen armed with field artillery and

965
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 1: machine guns and stuff. Yeah, all paid for by de beers.

966
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: So yeah. The invasion, the Jamison Raid, as it's called,

967
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: was a ship show from the jump. The British Excats

968
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: couldn't agree on what they wanted politically after the insurrection,

969
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: and because they had such a disagreement about this, they

970
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: asked Jamison to pause the raid because they weren't ready,

971
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: and he said, fuck you, I'm going to invade anyway.

972
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: And his hope was that this would spur them to act,

973
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: but instead it just meant that nobody, none of his

974
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: allies were ready when he invaded a sovereign nation um

975
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: and then his troops were trying to cut the telegraph

976
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: wires to the capitals that no one would know they

977
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: were coming, but they cut a fence instead of the

978
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: telegraph wires, which let the Boers organize a defense. Jamison's

979
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: police were ambushed and a lot of them were shot

980
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: to death until they surrendered. Now the whole Jamison Reid

981
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: was an unaccountable political disaster. It blackened Cecil's name for

982
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. It forced him out as

983
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Prime Minister. It sparked the end of his political career.

984
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: He did try to come back a few times. He

985
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: had friends right defenses of him and stuff a couple

986
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,439
Speaker 1: of years later, but it didn't work. Old time he canceled. Yeah,

987
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: he did get canceled for invading a white nation. Yeah. Yeah,

988
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: like for doing what he'd been doing. Yeah, let me

989
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: teach you a little thing about white people. White people

990
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: don't stand for being challenged, even by other white people.

991
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, brother, you should have slowed

992
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: down Icarus. I'm saying it is one of those things.

993
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: You can see. It's just covering the Portland's kind of uprising,

994
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it, as I have and watching

995
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: my friends cover it. You do tend to see a

996
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: big difference when like a black activists gets knocked down

997
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: as opposed to win a white person who's not an

998
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: activist gets knocked down. You see a different You see

999
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: just a clear difference in like the number of views

1000
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: that that video gets um, and yeah, it's just like

1001
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: nobody's it's not even a conscious thing. It's just a thing.

1002
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me too, Like it just this when

1003
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: you like, I the one thing I tell any artists

1004
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: or anybody like trying to start a business or anything,

1005
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: like the value of taking an l like the value

1006
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: of a loss. Like if you never lose, if everything

1007
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: you step into you just all you do is win,

1008
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: then you it will end. Ever that l is coming.

1009
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: It's coming, boy. And if you keep stacking and and

1010
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: and just and just and just doubling down, because you'll

1011
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: never lose, you don't never lose, You'll never When that

1012
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: l comes, it is going to be gi enormous. So

1013
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, look, man, just be be be aware,

1014
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 1: be aware, be always causes is somebody that don't ever

1015
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: lose because it's coming. Yeah, yeah, stay away from those people.

1016
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: So the whole Jamison right again, just a horrible political

1017
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: disaster black and Cecil's name and his political career. It

1018
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: also played a key role in sparking the Second Boer War,

1019
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: which is the Boer War that everybody hears about. This

1020
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: led to the first modern use of concentration camps by

1021
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: the British Empire against the Boer people and against Black

1022
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: Africans who lived in Bower Territory. Uh thirty thousand soldiers died,

1023
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand Bower civilians were starved to death, and

1024
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: twenty thousand African natives were starved to death in British

1025
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: concentration camps, thanks in part to Cecil. So that war

1026
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: ended in nineteen o two, and so did Cecil Roads.

1027
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: He was only forty nine years old, but he packed

1028
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: centuries of being a piece of ship into his life,

1029
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: and he was ready to go fiship faster. He was

1030
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: forty nine, forty nine, and he always knew he was

1031
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: going to die young. He has his first time attack

1032
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: in like eighteen seventy two. Like yeah, so he's throwing

1033
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: everything he can into being garbage. Um now. At the

1034
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: time he died, he was a rather marginalized figure within

1035
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: the British Empire. The Times wrote in his obituary, he

1036
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: has done more than any single contemporary to place before

1037
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: our imagination, before the imagination of his countrymen, a clear

1038
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: conception of the imperial destinies of our race. But we

1039
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: wish we could forget the other matters associated with that

1040
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: is the British answer. I know, he did a lot

1041
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: of wax stuff. I mean, but he was really good,

1042
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: but let's not talk about all the bad stuff. Kind

1043
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: of weird, it kind of kind of weird for a

1044
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: little bit, but he was great and he died, thank god,

1045
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: so he doesn't get to funk up anymore. Yeah, man, Yeah,

1046
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: So the good news for Rhodes is that a number

1047
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: of people have forgotten all the other matters associated with

1048
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: his name today, and he's increasingly being praised as a

1049
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: hero on the right wing. Uh. He was the absolute

1050
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: archetype of a white supremacist imperialist. He stated at one

1051
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: point late in his life that I would annex the

1052
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: planets if I could, And if you read all like

1053
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: the full quote, he seems really sad that he can't

1054
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: annex the planets, like space imperialism. Yeah, we're almost there now. Yeah,

1055
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: we're working on it. We're working on annex and Mars

1056
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. Yeah, and we'll find a way there.

1057
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: There's not native people on Mars, but we'll find a

1058
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: way to fun to funk them up. We'll make will

1059
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: make an indigenous Martian population and then screw them over.

1060
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: We will we will fight wars over some net come

1061
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: out the ground in Mars, and we will. Yes, We're

1062
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: totally going to do it. We're going to draw an

1063
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: imaginary line on a planet and be like, this side's ours.

1064
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Let's be angry about it forever. Let's be angry forever.

1065
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: God is so freaking species man. I had to read.

1066
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't end this without talking about some defenses of

1067
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: Cecil Roads. So I found one published back in two

1068
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, not coincidentally by Standpoint magazine. Now, a sizeable

1069
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: chunk of their defense is related to probably the most

1070
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: prominently uh the quote most regularly attributed to Cecil Rhodes,

1071
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: I prefer land to inwards. Now, Cecil did not say

1072
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: this exact quote. It's actually kind of people merging two

1073
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: things he said, including like you remember that quote I

1074
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: said earlier that he wants to annex land, not natives.

1075
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: He said this, He just didn't say it exactly that way,

1076
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: and he said the in word a lot constantly. He

1077
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: just didn't say it exactly that way. So it's not

1078
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: much of a defense that he said something slightly different

1079
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: but meant the same thing in my fucking book. Now, yeah, again,

1080
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 1: in the right book Yeah, the defenses get funnier and

1081
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: funnier from there on that and I'm gonna read one

1082
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: besides Rhads, besides Rhodes is early arguably racist reference, yes,

1083
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: arguably racist, That the Anglo Saxon race is superior to

1084
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: all other races and should rule them arguably racist. You

1085
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: could argue that, maybe you might debate that, but but

1086
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: they say this has to be weighed against all the

1087
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: other things he said and did. From first to last.

1088
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: He had a record of good relations with individual Africans.

1089
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: His primary biographer, Robert Rothberg, who was generally critical of

1090
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: the subject, writes that as a young man, he had

1091
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: related directly and well to unlettered Zulu. Throughout his life

1092
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: he remained sympathetic and responsive to the needs of individual

1093
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: persons of color. Not your stereotypical racist then, to which

1094
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: I say, yes, your stereotypical motherfucking racist. And this is

1095
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: gonna bring me. Yeah, you have black friends. I can't

1096
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: be racist. Yeah, my son has a black friend. This

1097
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: is gonna bring me to Do you know who Louis

1098
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: throw is. No, he's He's a British documentarian, very very

1099
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: popular one, and I quite like a lot of his work.

1100
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: In the nineties the late nineties, he did a series

1101
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: called Weird Weekends. We would go spend time and mostly

1102
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: I think American subculture, so we spent a lot of

1103
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: time with Nazis, and one of the Nazis he hung

1104
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: out with this guy named Tom Metzker. Now Tom Metzker

1105
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: was the head of a group called White Arian Resistance

1106
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: or WAR. He was the guy if you're at Oregonian

1107
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: who's whose members were responsible for the murder of Mulu

1108
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: Gettis Raw in Portland, which is like one of the

1109
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of big, yeah, very important thing to understand. He

1110
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: is one of the most famous racists there's ever been.

1111
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Tom Metzer. In the documentary where Louise spends several days

1112
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: just kind of living with him to get an understanding

1113
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: for the guy's personality, he notices that Tom has a

1114
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: Mexican American neighbor and is friendly with him and they'll

1115
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: like help each other out and stuff. And Tom differentiates

1116
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: between this individual person who he knows and thinks it's

1117
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: okay and Mexicans in journal with whom he had nothing

1118
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: but like racist bio and Mexican. The same thing for

1119
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: the Nazis. If you read Internal Nazi discussions as they

1120
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: were planning the Holocaust. One of the problems for them

1121
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: was that in kind of the terms they would use

1122
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: as everyone has their own their own like favored Jew

1123
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: that they think is different from the other Jews. And

1124
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: that's why we have to develop a legal code to

1125
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: oppress these people, because otherwise individuals will be slipping through

1126
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: the cracks. Even Hitler, even Adolf Hitler, rescued one Jew

1127
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: from the Holocaust that he orchestrated, the doctor who had

1128
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: tried to save his mother when he was a child.

1129
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: He got that guy out of the country because he

1130
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: knew what he was about to do. So, yes, it

1131
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: is stereotypically racist to be nice to individual people who

1132
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: are of the races you ate. Ah Ah, it makes racism,

1133
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: It makes it. It makes it more exhausting and that

1134
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 1: much more stupid because it's like, oh, you hate a concept. Yeah,

1135
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: that's exactly you hate a concept. And the proof that

1136
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: your concept is wrong is that there are individual people

1137
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: who are part of this concept of yours that you

1138
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: are able to liken get along with because they're people,

1139
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: and so are you like it? Just yeah, at what

1140
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: point do you get tired of being on the wrong

1141
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: side of history. Yeah, the point at which I don't know.

1142
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I can't get it emotionally. Yeah. Uh.

1143
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: So to continue this conservative writer of this very bad article, um,

1144
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: I I think it's funny that he uses this argument

1145
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: that he argues that, like, well, he was nice to

1146
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: individual Africans. Because this argument that he made to defend

1147
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: this guy in two thousands sixteen is the same that

1148
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: Leander Jamison used to defend Rhodes from charges of cruelty

1149
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: to natives in seven So, after Rhodes has his disastrous raid,

1150
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: he's trying to do a comeback tour, his friends defend him.

1151
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,439
Speaker 1: They use the same defense, which is that he's nice

1152
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: to individual Africans. Uh. Leander Jamison noted quote his favorite

1153
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: Sunday pastime was to go to the de Beers native

1154
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: compound where he segregated them away from the white workers,

1155
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: where he had built them a fine swimming pool and

1156
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: throw in shillings for the natives to dive for. Oh man,

1157
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: just the white nonsense boy. Yeah he was. He loved them,

1158
01:04:54,920 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 1: he threw money at them. This is nonsense. Yeah, and

1159
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: how you say this? What a straight faced Yeah? Well,

1160
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: the article is very long, and a lot of it's funny.

1161
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read one more quote trying to justify

1162
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: Cecil's bigotry, and again this is from that article. Yes,

1163
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: Rhodes thought that Black Africans were generally inferior, but in

1164
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: terms of cultural development, not biology. He believed they could

1165
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: become civilized. This is important because important regards that people

1166
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: is biologically inferior and incapable of development, then that's a

1167
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: reason to exclude them permanently from participation in their own government.

1168
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: But that wasn't how Roads saw things. In a speech

1169
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: of eighteen ninety four, he made this quite clear when

1170
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: he said, now I say the Natives are children. They

1171
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: are just emerging from barbarism. They have human minds. We

1172
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: ought to do something for the minds and the brains

1173
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: that the Almighty has given them. I do not believe

1174
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: that they are different from ourselves. But you acted that

1175
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: way and enshrining a set of laws that lasted a

1176
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: century after your death, enshrining those differences. Yeah, I don't

1177
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: believe there are any different than us, except you absolutely

1178
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: believe they're different than you. Yeah. There when you're as

1179
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: a white person, when you're when you're trying to justify

1180
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: when you're trying to talk about and like equivocate on racism,

1181
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 1: you should think about whether or not you would be

1182
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: comfortable saying that to the face of a person of

1183
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: that race. So would you what would what do you?

1184
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 1: How would you feel walking up to a black person

1185
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: and saying I'm not racist or this guy wasn't racist,

1186
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: he just thought that your entire race was children, Like,

1187
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: how do you would you? Would you feel fundamentally guilty

1188
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: saying that? Would you feel too ashamed to say that?

1189
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: Then perhaps it's racist as fuck coming out of your mouth.

1190
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: That didn't sound like you didn't hear yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1191
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. So at the end of this

1192
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: I wanted a little bit of time, not quite yet,

1193
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: because we need to grapple with the last part of

1194
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 1: Cecil's legatory, the thing that he left us that continues

1195
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: to kill people every year, the blood diamond trade. Now again,

1196
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: by eighteen eighty eight, he had basically complete monopolistic troll

1197
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: control over the diamond market. He made a monopoly. He

1198
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: formed a cartel called the London Diamonds Syndicate, which were

1199
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: all of the biggest people actually selling diamonds to consumers,

1200
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: and this allowed him to match supply with demand artificially

1201
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 1: and keep and keep value high even though they were

1202
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,600
Speaker 1: actually shipload of extra diamonds. Yeah, they're fucking everywhere, They're

1203
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: not precious. Um so this provided like yeah, so he

1204
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: builds this thing and it becomes the model of the

1205
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: diamond industry for forever. Um his descendants, the people who

1206
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: take over to Beers after him, um, following his footsteps

1207
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: and continue to maintain the monopoly using these same tactics,

1208
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: controlling nine plus percent of the global diamond market in

1209
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties. The people who follow after cecil Roads

1210
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: into Beers start the mining campaign. Diamonds are forever in

1211
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: the United States. Um. Sorry, Nine is when that starts.

1212
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: Nine is when they start marketing diamonds to the middle

1213
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 1: class because they had been like a rich person thing.

1214
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: They start trying to get across everyone needs a diamond

1215
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: to show that you love your spouse. Forever starts in

1216
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: ninety seven and de Beers becomes an even bigger marketing

1217
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: em party than it had already been. Um so they

1218
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: but will bath them drugs. That's a reference, and it's

1219
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: it's it's it's yeah. So they just they expand demand

1220
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: and they also create a permanent They create a permanent

1221
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: market for diamonds in Africa, and it's not a good market. Um.

1222
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: In nineteen five, de Beers takes complete control of mining

1223
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: prospects in Sierra Leone and their contract gives them control

1224
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: for ninety nine years. Now, this opens up a black

1225
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: market and Lebanese traders in Sierra Leone discovered that you

1226
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: can make a lot of money by smuggling diamonds out

1227
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: of the country ilicit mining and training. It increased throughout

1228
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 1: Sierra Leone. By the nineteen fifties, the government had given

1229
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,080
Speaker 1: up any chance of policing the diamond industry. Foreign investors

1230
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: had to supply their own security, which was done generally

1231
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: by mercenary forces. Uh and yeah, So these by creating

1232
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 1: this very very valuable legitimate diamond trade that the government

1233
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: doesn't control, you also create an illegitimate diamond trade that

1234
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: the government doesn't control, and that provides a way for

1235
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: insurgent militaries to fund themselves. And this is what starts

1236
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: happening all over Africa. In this period of time, you

1237
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: have these massive wars over over minerals, wars funded by minerals.

1238
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: It with diamond's chief among them. And it's it's it's

1239
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: a nightmare every single place that it happens. In Sierra Leone,

1240
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 1: they're fucking cutting off hands, armless kids. Yeah, they kill

1241
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand people. Half a million people become refugees.

1242
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,560
Speaker 1: And that's not the worst that it gets. Um. Have

1243
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: you you've heard about the Great African War? I think

1244
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,560
Speaker 1: it starts in some people like and and it's the

1245
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: biggest war after World War Three. It's the biggest war

1246
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: we've had since Almost no one in in in the

1247
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: Western world has has ever heard about it. It's also

1248
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: sometimes called the Congo War. UM. It happens in the

1249
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 1: late nineties. It kills five million people, and it is

1250
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: a war over minerals over gold, diamonds, tin, ivory, and

1251
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: coal tan, which I think is used to help make computers. Um.

1252
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: And it's it's one of those wars where there's like

1253
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: millions of people who are raped systematically in like an

1254
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: industrial fashion. You have millions more who die from lack

1255
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: of medical care. Um. And again, the war is able

1256
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: to continue on because rebels are because these different sides

1257
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: are able to take control of diamonds and mind diamonds

1258
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: and sell them for guns to commit these massacres and

1259
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of other Part of the reason why I'm

1260
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:42,560
Speaker 1: not going into much to tail about this here is

1261
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: that a lot of other people, of course, are have

1262
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: involved in this, like Cecil Rhodes has Medetta Wild. He

1263
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: starts the chain of events that makes the Great African

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Speaker 1: War and the Sierra Leon and everything that's happening in

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Speaker 1: all of these countries over diamonds, over over conflict minerals.

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Speaker 1: He's the origin point. Uh. I know, if you're in

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Speaker 1: the hip hop, you've heard the phrase conflict diamonds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're talking about. If you don't know, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: And it's like it's the among the at least at

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Speaker 1: least in my opinion, among the African American community. This

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Speaker 1: is the the cognitive dissonance that we have to deal

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Speaker 1: with of like our hand in upholding this like diamond trade.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like what if we as

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Speaker 1: a culture, as American culture, who we love to shine,

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Speaker 1: I get it, But if we decided, like yo, we're

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Speaker 1: not touching diamonds anymore. You know what I'm saying In

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Speaker 1: solidarity to our African brothers and sisters. It's something I

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Speaker 1: feel like we need to at some point reckon with,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, But yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: hard topic man. And that then, and I've made a

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Speaker 1: reference to a Kanye song from the College Dropout album,

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Speaker 1: which or not from the Late Registration album called Diamonds

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Speaker 1: Are Forever Conflict Diamonds. Yeah, and it's it's um. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I guess I can say to

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Speaker 1: that is Cecil's goal was to kill the culture the

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Speaker 1: Africans live under and make them all live under the

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Speaker 1: rules and culture that that Anglo Americans and the Great

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Speaker 1: African War is some evidence that he succeeded to an

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Speaker 1: extent because what he did, leading in mercenary armies to

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Speaker 1: take over mining areas in order to extract minerals and

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Speaker 1: using that to fund the conquests of more of these

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Speaker 1: mercenaries is exactly what all these wars what happened. It's

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Speaker 1: what happened. He succeeded. They adopted that part of British culture. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well great, thank you for thanks for that, buddy X.

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Speaker 1: You know, exporting Western culture. We're now mutilating each other. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For more information on the topic, see the war and

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Speaker 1: Zevon song Rolling the Headless Thompson Gunner. Um, so prop,

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Speaker 1: you you got some plugs to plug in? Now my plugs,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Great capitalism. Um, Well, I'm selling music

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Speaker 1: and coffee. Uh, but it's just prop hip hop dot

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Speaker 1: com and that's all my app mentions to and it

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Speaker 1: just all feels so trivial. Um. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: my children like to eat, so yeah, check out the music,

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Speaker 1: check out the poetry. I got a coffee collab coming up. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what's up now? Um? Where this is ethically sourced? I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's important to say it now. Uh, company

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Speaker 1: called Onyx who pays higher than market price because we

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Speaker 1: believe in farmers and supporting and yeah, and it's a

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Speaker 1: good drink. And I'm finishing an album and at some

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Speaker 1: point I'll give that links to that. Hell yes, hell, yes,

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Speaker 1: well check all that out. Check me out somewhere on

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Speaker 1: the internet. No one's quite sure where. Um, and that's

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Speaker 1: all that's everything. Well, a lot of people do. Because

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Speaker 1: I've seen your followers grow. Okay, well, I'm not even

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Speaker 1: gonna plug your buggables for you. Robert thank you, Sophie,

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Speaker 1: I'll plug it for you. You could find him at

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Speaker 1: I write okay. I think allegedly allegedly cannot you cannot

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Speaker 1: confirm or deny that I write okayness. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 1: write better than okay. Man, you're a great writer. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you. It was actually, like I think it was.

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Speaker 1: It's very unclear because I'm uh wasn't always as good

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Speaker 1: at writing as I am. Now. My meaning was that

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Speaker 1: was not that I write okay. It was like it

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Speaker 1: came from uh like years of frustration of explaining what

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Speaker 1: I did for a living because I had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different weird freelance jobs online. Yeah, like I write okay. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that problems that. That was why pun punctuation matters. M alrighty, alright,

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Speaker 1: it's products late ship probably that's that's capital is I'm

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Speaker 1: for it could be all right mm hmm