WEBVTT - Ep 310: Turning Pain Into Power

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black. We are also

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<v Speaker 1>around ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think that high note was so high

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<v Speaker 2>that you froze.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're back now. How are you doing, friend? Good?

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<v Speaker 1>How is your your extended weekend?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seemed like after we finished recording last week,

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<v Speaker 2>the world exploded and it knocked me on my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that you know a thing or two

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<v Speaker 2>about grief. Unfortunately, and this that shooting in Uvalde, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>it happened. I mean I came off the high of

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<v Speaker 2>the show and then had something else to do and

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<v Speaker 2>then went to pick up my from daycare, and my

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<v Speaker 2>husband decided to just text me the news, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I had to pull over like it was to

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<v Speaker 2>my knees devastating. And I think my biggest fear now

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<v Speaker 2>is that people are gonna go back to business as usual.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go back to business as usual.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've like I did something the next day because

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<v Speaker 2>I just woke up and I was just like it

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<v Speaker 2>was so heavy, and I just put up my vacation

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<v Speaker 2>responder saying that I was going to be taking some

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<v Speaker 2>time off to to mourn the losses of life. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just after Buffalo, you know, I know we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have after Buffalo. I just nineteen babies and their

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<v Speaker 2>teacher and their two teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, when I saw that, you know, because I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be a teacher, I don't even know the level

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<v Speaker 1>of terror those kids must have gone through, and their teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I can't imagine, because when you're teaching, literally

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<v Speaker 1>especially little ones, this weird thing comes over you where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, well, this is my child now, like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was as soon as I entered into the classroom,

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<v Speaker 1>when you drop your baby off, that's my baby too,

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<v Speaker 1>because since we could fight, like you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>love your child like just as much as you do

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<v Speaker 1>when they're here with me. So I can't imagine how

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<v Speaker 1>they must have felt, the teachers that were in there,

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<v Speaker 1>how terrified they were for themselves, but especially because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. Like it could be me going to the

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<v Speaker 1>park with the kids and just like a strange person

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<v Speaker 1>standing around, I mean, the mama bear that used to

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<v Speaker 1>come out of me. I'm like, why are you at

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<v Speaker 1>this park? Well, I just know I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>walk away. I can't come to the park, not why

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<v Speaker 1>the kids are here because you have just this weird look,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it takes us to fight, sir, I'll send

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<v Speaker 1>the kids back and we could tell. Like literally, that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I was like. But honestly, I found that most

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<v Speaker 1>teachers of little ones were like them too, So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even I can't even imagine. I saw one father.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know why I watched it because I

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<v Speaker 1>was hysteriic after of how he was just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want my baby back, Like what, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>my baby bag?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want me to say? There's nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>be said. I want my and she shouldn't. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I know what interview you're talking about too.

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<v Speaker 1>There was heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as you know we talk about this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you have something is to say. I struggle with

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<v Speaker 2>the whole I know self care is important, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know that we have to kind of protect ourselves from

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<v Speaker 2>the news, but I didn't want to protect myself. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to read the names. I wanted to read the

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<v Speaker 2>minute by minute account of the shooting. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>understand how it happened, as painful as it was and

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<v Speaker 2>continues to be. I don't know that I'm not ready

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<v Speaker 2>to stop I just don't want to not care. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to not talk about it. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>heavy and devastating and terrifying. Who else is going to

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<v Speaker 2>save babies? Like the people that we've elected into power,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not doing shit. They ain't doing a

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<v Speaker 2>damn thing. And I'm like, as a mom, as a

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<v Speaker 2>human you don't have to be a mom, forget that

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<v Speaker 2>a human being, yeah, you know where what I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>what can we do to save the children, the babies

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<v Speaker 2>who are happy to learn?

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<v Speaker 1>In general? Because I saw someone said, which is so true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like nothing says that we need to ban these

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<v Speaker 1>like automatic assault rifles, then police being afraid to go

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<v Speaker 1>in because they have an automatical salt rifle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it take? One thing I will say that

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a little like that shave a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>off of my feeling disheartened is to see all those

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<v Speaker 1>people protesting in Texas and I think, rally, yes, that

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<v Speaker 1>we've turned a corner that people are like, okay, Governor this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm hoping that when election time comes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that you know that people are just like enough

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<v Speaker 1>are right? Because what does it take? Because at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's going to know somebody who has who has been

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<v Speaker 1>a victim of school shooting or something tragic like that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether it's school like in Buffalo, the supermarket,

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<v Speaker 1>a church, at some point, everyone's gonna say my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister, and my cousin, my son, Like what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was reading the statistic that I guess

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<v Speaker 1>at one point when President Clinton was president, he had

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<v Speaker 1>banned the set you know, the automatic assault rifles, and

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<v Speaker 1>gun violence went down like forty three percent, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it was lifted and gun violence increased by like two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred I think, and forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three fired right, Like I'm like, why would that expire?

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<v Speaker 2>Like we're gonna get over our issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And there was a direct correlation, like it's up

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<v Speaker 1>like over two hundred percent as a result. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>like bands do work. Like this whole people are like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>bands don't work. It's like, let's look at the countries

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<v Speaker 1>where they've enacted those and see how they have almost

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated gun violence. So it's like you have to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>rottle the money, really, really, why won't politicians do anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're on the payroll of those who would benefits

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<v Speaker 1>them to be able to sell these type of assault rifles.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the it was It Good run in America?

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<v Speaker 1>That young boy he maybe was like thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent him into a seven to eleven to buy alcohol. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, maybe you can't buy alcohol. They send

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<v Speaker 1>him to someplace elf to buy cigarettes. Maybe you can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy cigarettes, all these other places. Then they send him

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<v Speaker 1>to like a gun show to buy a gun. He

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<v Speaker 1>walked out with a gun. No cold medicine. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>buy alcohol. Cigarettes you can't buy But a thirteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old can buy a gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't real yep, but here still here's an assault rifle.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for mentioning the protests. It's the only way

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get up right now in protests. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've done a good job compartmentalizing, I think. And this

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<v Speaker 2>past weekend just becoming obsessed with seeing my son smile,

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<v Speaker 2>just obsessed. I would do anything to make her smile.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, I broke my body for that

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<v Speaker 2>child this week. And like I've not slept as hard

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<v Speaker 2>as I slept. I went to bed at eight fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>last night, and I slept until seven fifty six this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that is how hard I went, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was just pouring all the energy into just like

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<v Speaker 2>what can I do? But there's more than that. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned the protesting and about the power of these elected

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<v Speaker 2>officials and who do we want in power? And the

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<v Speaker 2>fact of the matter is that, like, do not get

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<v Speaker 2>it twisted. There's actually legislation already that's been passed in

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<v Speaker 2>the House and has been stymied in the Senate because

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<v Speaker 2>they need more. They need at least sixty votes to

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<v Speaker 2>pass the filibuster, which is what you know Republicans and

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats have used it to. If you don't get more

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<v Speaker 2>than sixty votes, then you can welcome this filibuster, which

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<v Speaker 2>means no one ever stops talking and nothing ever gets passed. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they need sixty votes, they don't got them. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have them because they don't have it. And even some

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<v Speaker 2>there's probably a couple of Democrats who are not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>voting for this. But these are people we've elected into power.

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<v Speaker 2>The midterms are coming up. How are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>change this? Like, I feel so useless being here in

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<v Speaker 2>a progressive state. I'm just like, should I move back

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<v Speaker 2>to Georgia?

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<v Speaker 3>What should I do?

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're in a state where you have senators

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<v Speaker 2>who are opposed and hell, we'll put the link in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. You can see exactly who's opposed this law.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to call them. You have and it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually listened to was I listening to? It was

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<v Speaker 3>like a podcast and it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone who works on Capitol Hill, and she was going

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<v Speaker 2>into detail about the most impactful way to get elected

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<v Speaker 2>officials attention. And she's like, if you're not from if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in their constituency, like you live where they represent,

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<v Speaker 2>your calls are not going to matter as much. So

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<v Speaker 2>I can't call, Tiffany, can't call if you don't if

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<v Speaker 2>you live in Texas or Georgia or Kansas or wherever

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<v Speaker 2>these places are.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to call. You have to. We have to work.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to save the babies, like we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I'm gonna say babies. Because everyone's all about

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<v Speaker 2>pro life and banning abortion and all that bullshit. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't give a shit about children in this country. Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's the way I feel. So you can't care about children,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't give it. How do we not care about children?

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<v Speaker 2>You're we're going to grow up to be taxpayers and

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<v Speaker 2>business owners, and like, how do we not see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens to a child and who they they've they've passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we not think at conception you can't. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't feed them, we can't beat them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so but now that when kids become actual kids,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like a hands off. It's just that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way people are gonna learn. And it actually does work.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think, to you, so, wow, that doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. Like my assembly woman, Angela pe McKnight

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<v Speaker 1>and I got together and then it took two years,

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<v Speaker 1>two or three years, but we got the law passed

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of New making financial education mandatory for

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<v Speaker 1>middle school students. Then I called Angela and I was like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>these people came to my house and under and praise

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<v Speaker 1>the house. And it's been what like two years now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm fortunately I can't be there because I have

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<v Speaker 1>a speaking engagement. But on Saturday, on Thursday, they asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to come testify before the Senate of New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>to testify to say this is what happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So now there's a law or not a law but

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<v Speaker 1>certainly I think I don't know if it's a bill yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is. I think it's called the bill. Whatever

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<v Speaker 1>a pre law is to say, hey, here's how one

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<v Speaker 1>that's wrong for appraisals to be based upon race and

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<v Speaker 1>gender and other information that has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>the value of your home. And here's what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen for appraisers who do that. So that's happening. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes some time, but to stand up and say no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to reach out to my counsel person, my

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<v Speaker 1>assembly person, my whatever. I mean. You know that's a

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<v Speaker 1>quickly happening. Yes, locally, yep, locally. And I remember distinctly

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, Mandy. She was like, can you come

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<v Speaker 1>and speak, because hearing from a constituent is powerful if

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<v Speaker 1>not write a letter. And I remember when we were

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<v Speaker 1>getting the financial education law passed, she was like, can

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<v Speaker 1>you send an email to all of your New Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>folks in this area to say make a phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally gave them a link. I said, here's a link,

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<v Speaker 1>click this, copy and paste this message if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what to write. And so that's what we did

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of to let lawmakers know, like, hey, there

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<v Speaker 1>are people who could vote you in or out who

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<v Speaker 1>care about this law making happen. So I just say

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<v Speaker 1>all that to say that, I know sometimes it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just like just vote that doesn't seem like enough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say that being active in that way

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<v Speaker 1>it does make change happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at the local level too, I got really involved

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<v Speaker 2>in my and my school district's board of education election,

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<v Speaker 2>which was just like, what was it a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago now, and the pro the pro gun, anti

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<v Speaker 2>vax contingency, they're out there trying to get seats on

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<v Speaker 2>school boards, okay, and thank goodness this particular election. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't even have a kid in the

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<v Speaker 2>school system yet, but I'm just like, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be there, and if he's not there, I know kids

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<v Speaker 2>who are. You know, I know kids in my neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to be in the school system. So

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<v Speaker 2>even at that level, voting, you know, helping to pass

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<v Speaker 2>out flyers, being aware of what's happening at your really

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<v Speaker 2>local level, like going to your town hall meetings or

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<v Speaker 2>getting on the list serve and you know, emailing your

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<v Speaker 2>local elected officials. Believe me, they'll respond to those emails.

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<v Speaker 2>At the local level, they will. It really matters. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just want I want to create at

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<v Speaker 2>least a few minutes here to like, you know, can

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<v Speaker 2>we create some like actionable items, you know, for action

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<v Speaker 2>steps that you can take right now so we can

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<v Speaker 2>all just feel a little bit less shitty. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's it, you know, figuring out who's opposed this

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<v Speaker 2>particular bill that originated in the House. Figuring out if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you have any senators in your state,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's quite a few who have opposed it, and

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<v Speaker 2>how you can get in contact with them and tell

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<v Speaker 2>them that they are not doing you a service that

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<v Speaker 2>as a constituent you care will put those links in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes. That's one huge thing. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>at your local level, who's on your board of education.

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<v Speaker 2>I I have a friend and she has created a petition.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly enough, I mean, obviously gun reform is so important,

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<v Speaker 2>but the reality is that, like Tiffany' said, it can

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<v Speaker 2>take it take a long time to see any huge changes.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already seen it. So in the meantime, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this mom is petitioning her local school board of education

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<v Speaker 2>to better protect the children at schools. So even as

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<v Speaker 2>we're thinking about big picture gun reform, there's still kids

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<v Speaker 2>going to bat like wars every day. It feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>how are we protecting them? Who's you know, this particular

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<v Speaker 2>gun and walk through an unlocked door that was propped

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<v Speaker 2>open by god, this teacher, I don't know how they're

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<v Speaker 2>even coping with the what this has but there was

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<v Speaker 2>no there and they have a school police district, no

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<v Speaker 2>one they're to protect them, So, like, what can they

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<v Speaker 2>do to take safer schools?

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't train?

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<v Speaker 1>It hit two weeks prior about this is what to

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<v Speaker 1>do should this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what's what looking into your local school district

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<v Speaker 2>and what have they done to create a safer environment

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<v Speaker 2>for schools. If we're gonna let these ar you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen's stay on the streets and let thirteen year olds

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<v Speaker 2>buy up guns at gun shows and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>what are we going to do to make schools safer?

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not asking those questions as a concerned citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think that that's one of the simple

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<v Speaker 2>things that we can do to make schools a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit safer. And hug your babies and hug the babies

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't your babies, and just appreciate that these lives,

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<v Speaker 2>these fragile children.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I can't get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The only thing that gave me comfort when

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<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, in hysterics on Tuesday was I

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<v Speaker 2>called my neighbor, one of my really good friends, who's

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<v Speaker 2>become just, you know, I don't know, just an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>support system for me. And she has a five year

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<v Speaker 2>old who is in schools here, and I called her

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<v Speaker 2>just to say, Hey, I'm on the side of the road,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm losing my shit, you know, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you. And the background, her five year old

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<v Speaker 2>son is in the background, and he's like and she's

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<v Speaker 2>explained to him, you know, miss Mandy has some big

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<v Speaker 2>feelings right now. Remember we've talked about he knows gun violence.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, remember we've talked about the five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hear him in the background and he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Mandy, it's going to be okay. I know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do if that happens. I'm going to run really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was it sobered me right up. Five years

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<v Speaker 2>old for this kid, and I'm like, oh, he's why

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be losing it right now, Like these tears

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<v Speaker 2>ain't hurt helping anybody. You know, He's he's who I

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<v Speaker 2>envision of course my own son too, But we need

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<v Speaker 2>to care about kids that aren't our own kids, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we need to care about every child black, white, brown,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know wherever they live, and until we do,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be safe for them. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>just a heartbreaking you know reality.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, deep breath and literally that's what doctor Green would

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<v Speaker 1>say right now whenever I'm like, She's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take a couple of deep breaths because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a heavy load.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to make a baby smile. Every baby I've see him,

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<v Speaker 2>just like I act like a crazy person now, like

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<v Speaker 2>I've become that person to hold babies, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I make your day brighter? Baby? Because you're

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<v Speaker 2>here and you didn't want to be, you didn't ask

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<v Speaker 2>for this, you're here in this country, so I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, back to business as usual this week. Wish

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<v Speaker 2>trying not to try not to think too deeply about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean still thinking about it, and still I

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<v Speaker 2>actually had a moment where I was supposed to do

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<v Speaker 2>my first. I had my big, first, big brand partnership

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<v Speaker 2>last week scheduled to create my very excited five figure

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<v Speaker 2>DAL You'd be so proud. And I think I told

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<v Speaker 2>you when I it was the day I was negotiating,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you. And my first post was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>go up Tuesday and shout out to this brand too,

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<v Speaker 2>because I I didn't post anything. I only posted anything

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do with the shooting. And I did

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<v Speaker 2>get the message the next day like, oh, we noticed

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<v Speaker 2>that this post hadn't gone up, and I was like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>no one would have cared. It wouldn't have had any impact.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have felt insane for acknowledging. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is about business, and it just nothing really mattered. And

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<v Speaker 2>they were super considerate of that decision.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's it. For me.

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<v Speaker 2>It felt I felt good to be my own to

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<v Speaker 2>be a business owner at that point, at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>be my own boss and be able to say you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, no, this doesn't feel right, I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>it now.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, that's one of the one of the upsides

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<v Speaker 1>of being a business owner. And because you have the

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<v Speaker 1>agency to say so, you know, obviously there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other things that go on with being a business owner.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is one of the upsides. It's that you

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<v Speaker 1>have the agency to say now you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a good idea, but also it's great

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<v Speaker 1>because you you obviously chose well with the brand partner,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you found a partner that wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to put profit over people in that moment, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to anyone going to work just as much

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<v Speaker 2>as you can. You know, you know your work culture

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<v Speaker 2>better than we do obviously, but I feel like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to work, and this is heavy on yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can clear your schedule, clear your schedule, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell people why you're upset, tell them why

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<v Speaker 2>you're upset, you know, so that people understand it it's

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<v Speaker 2>not business as usual if we're not ready for it

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and that that is another way that we

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<v Speaker 2>can create some change and making a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had HR, like we we always have like outreach,

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<v Speaker 1>so HR person's like if you need to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>someone coaching, counseling, so we always make that available and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we just talk about it, like you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have your normal chat with whomever you're chatting with that

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<v Speaker 1>day it comes up and we speak about it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to be said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, thank you for the space for me to

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<v Speaker 2>speak about it and for us it together a teeny

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<v Speaker 2>tiny bit better. I do so much breathing it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't I don't realize how much

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<v Speaker 1>I hold my breath. You're a breath holder, yes, and

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<v Speaker 1>so like when I'm anxious, because I won't know until

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll be talking to doctor Green and then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like halfway through our session, I'll do the deep sigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Once she's told me something that like unlocked the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that says, oh, that's true, and then she was like

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, you know, that's the first breath you took.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh snap. She's like yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 1>am a breath holder when I'm anxious or afraid or

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<v Speaker 1>anything going wrong. So learning to breathe is through it

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<v Speaker 1>is something I'm trying to practice, you know, Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That we'll study it. Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Science shows that breathing is one of the ways to

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<v Speaker 2>like regulate your nervous system and tell your.

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<v Speaker 3>Body that you're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like at a time when everything feels unsafe,

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<v Speaker 2>like breathing or what's the other best thing? A good laugh,

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<v Speaker 2>A good like hearty laugh. We haven't done much of

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<v Speaker 2>that this episode, but squeeze one in. Should we take

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<v Speaker 2>a deep breath break and come back with brown boos

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<v Speaker 2>brown break?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, brown booze, brown break? Which one are you gonna take?

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<v Speaker 4>Brown booth, brown break? Which one are you gonna take?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm obviously gonna boost because I'm like, chow, we

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<v Speaker 1>got enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I got you. I got a boost for y'all. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you want me go, I can't go first. Mine's

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<v Speaker 2>just a little silly. I'm and very like what we

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<v Speaker 2>need these days. My butterfly extravaganza of a garden, my mastermind.

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<v Speaker 3>It's working.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a butterfly mastermind. You guys missed it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know a lot. Around this time or late

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<v Speaker 2>summer last year, I became obsessed. I had a caterpillar

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<v Speaker 2>in my in my parsley bush that I had or

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<v Speaker 2>parsley thing that I had planted. I don't even eat

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<v Speaker 2>parsley like that, so I didn't mind I had a

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<v Speaker 2>caterpillar because it was munching on them. Parsley, and I

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<v Speaker 2>found out everything I could about this particular caterpillar was

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<v Speaker 2>a swallowtail butterfly caterpillar, and I watched it become a

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<v Speaker 2>chrysalist and I missed it when it emerged, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was fine. It was beautiful. And so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to plant the herbs that the butterflies will

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<v Speaker 2>lay their eggs on. There's specific types of herbs, so

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<v Speaker 2>those lottletail butterfly plant eggs and dill, and partially like anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so I planted a bunch of dill.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even eat dill like that, but so and

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<v Speaker 3>I found.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve baby butterfly caterpillars on the dill yesterday, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna eat up all the dill and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>turn into a caterpillar.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where they're all gonna live.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we might need some crowd control because

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<v Speaker 2>the dill is not that big.

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<v Speaker 3>But I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>To watch these little caterpillars become big caterpillars. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to go check on them as soon as we wrap

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<v Speaker 2>and get my lunch, and just it gives me so

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<v Speaker 2>much peace watching these little caterpillars. And I've got I said,

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<v Speaker 2>my butterfly mastermind is that I also am growing milkweed flowers,

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<v Speaker 2>which are the only flowers I think monarch butterflies either

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<v Speaker 2>eat or lay their eggs on something to that effect.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to have the I want to and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be planting ecanesia flowers cone flowers because

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<v Speaker 2>this is what butterflies love to eat. So I want

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<v Speaker 2>to create the perfect little butterfly ecosystem so I can

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<v Speaker 2>just watch all the life stages of the butterfly. And

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<v Speaker 2>I already feel better talking about it. Y'all might think

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little cuckoo.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's beautiful, so shut up. Brown boost for

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<v Speaker 2>my gardening and my butterfly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it brings me a butterfly. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like a book that every preschooler needs if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it by Eric Carl The Very Hungry Caterpillar. That's

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<v Speaker 1>like my babe.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh and real favor too, Yeah,

0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:30.560
<v Speaker 2>that book that butterfly ate cupcakes and plus he was greed.

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Let me real he had a tummy ache.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was such a great book. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>remembered It had me thinking about about that when you

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<v Speaker 1>said the catterpillar was like eating, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so hungry and gardeners hate them, but I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you seem to make peace with them. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to eat all that deal anyway. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>we could.

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<v Speaker 1>Share a little deal. It was a little deal between friends.

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<v Speaker 3>What about you my friends?

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<v Speaker 1>My brown boost it's gonna be I actually spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friend this weekend and she was she's

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<v Speaker 1>been in business for a long time, about as long

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<v Speaker 1>as me, and she called because she wanted to talk

0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>about like her cash flow and like she's like, oh,

0:24:10.000 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 1>what should I do? And I said, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to her listening, and then I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can I ask a question that's not necessarily related to

0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>this technical question you have for me? And she was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah. I said, well, like what actually do you

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<v Speaker 1>want from your life? Like what are you working toward?

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, oh, when I want to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to grow a billion dollar business. She's got this

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<v Speaker 1>technology that can honestly potentially grow into a billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>business because the government wants it. And I'm like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not that, but like what do you want for you like,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you know, I want something like

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<v Speaker 1>how I had a few years ago when my business

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<v Speaker 1>was a little smaller. I was making about three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars in business a year, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was traveling all the time. And she was just like

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<v Speaker 1>I can just hear her light up when she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. I said, so, what about the life that

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<v Speaker 1>you're currently pus is appealing because it sounds like you

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>haven't taken a vacation in a while. She's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like, you know, you actually are making less

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.239
<v Speaker 1>even though you're making more. For those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>are business you know exactly what I mean. Like your

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 1>business is making more, but it's costing you more, so

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 1>you personally are making less. So it sounds like that's

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. She said yeah. And I was just like,

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<v Speaker 1>for what again, So you can have this billion dollar business?

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>She was just like, well, here's the thing. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to live the kind of luxury that like that a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar business can afford. And I said, are you

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<v Speaker 1>living that now? She said now? I said, well, how

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.040
<v Speaker 1>long have you been in this holding pattern? It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years, and I said, well, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like your life was pretty great before, because what if

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<v Speaker 1>you take this next ten years to indeed grow this

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar business, get there, only to find out it's

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<v Speaker 1>not as cute as you think, and you will have

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<v Speaker 1>paid for that life with your life, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was just like wow, you know, because I get

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<v Speaker 1>it that there was a stage an entrepreneship that I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen over the last couple of years where it's

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<v Speaker 1>growth by any means necessary. It's bigger, bigger, bigger, more, more

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and more, bigger, bigger, more, more and more and more

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and more, especially in the black and brown entrepreneur community,

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<v Speaker 1>because for the first time we have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>break through and like, you know, look, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>this type of wealth grown so quickly in this community

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<v Speaker 1>through entrepreneurship, and so I myself definitely got caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in it as well, because it was, like I remember distinctly,

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>one of my mentors she met well, told me that

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<v Speaker 1>if you can get it, go get it, meaning like well, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can do one, can you do five million?

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>If you can do five mili, can you do ten?

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>If you can do ten, can you do fifty? So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, well, girl, if it's out there to get

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it and you can get it, go get it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I subscribed to that because I thought, if it's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>why not reach for the stars? Never really asking myself,

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.639
<v Speaker 1>but do I just like clouds? And so because of

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<v Speaker 1>like losing Darrell, it helped to like reset and to

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<v Speaker 1>really ask myself, actually, how do you actually want your

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<v Speaker 1>life to go. I know that I could grow a

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>fifty to one hundred million dollar company. I know I

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>can do that. We know that, but is that what

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<v Speaker 1>you actually want? Are you not wearing your target's best

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>every day?

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 3>You know?

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Like, are you still not driving your twenty fifteen Lincoln

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>MKZ that you bought used anyway and you love that car? Yes?

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>Is your house your work is not paid off and

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 1>you actually love your little house? You know? Yes? So

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>what is if I you know what I mean, Like,

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>what's the point Like if I were to get this

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollar business and sacrifice my life, Now, what's

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of that is isn't it really

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<v Speaker 1>a better life?

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>What is all that for? Basically? So we really talked

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>about that and she was just like, wow, you know

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that Dyll taught me is the

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<v Speaker 1>concept of enough, you know, and I'd never known that concept.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I used to think the concept of enough meant that

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you were not ambitious. I spent to drilling ambitious, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you were settling. Yep. Because I was like, Jerrell,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do this and this and this,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hmmm no. I'm like, but babe, you can,

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you work for housing, You're super already.

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>We can have like apartment buildings. And he was just like,

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe another house or two that'd be cool.

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, I remember it to drive me crazy.

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>And finally I was like, that's just him. I'm out

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>here doing it meanwhile, stressed overwork, my blood pressure was raising.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to benefit, though you were doing it for

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 3>his benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, Yeah, I was, you know, but I'm just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, like there was a moment where I actually

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>had attained the goals I set forth and I zoomed passed.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It didn't even acknowledge. I was like, I want to

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>have a house that's paid off. I don't want any debt.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I want to pay off my student loan debts. I

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 1>want to be able to vacation or at least I

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 1>have enough money to do. So I want to pay

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>off my parents' house. So I had this goal and

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>when I tell you, I flew past it, barely nodded

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>at it, and kept going. So it's not that I

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>regret the hard work, but it's like you did the

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>thing that you wanted and now you're still working as

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<v Speaker 1>if you just started. And it was a law of

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>diminishing returns where the work was actually bringing me less

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of what I intended, which is freedom and time. And

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>so that's what I'm really So I believe in hard work,

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's like that it should be tied to something

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>versus just work for working sake. And that's the zone

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 1>that I had entered into that I was just working

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>for working sake because we had the things we said

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>we wanted to have and so yeah, so it was like,

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was just a really good chat with her.

0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned this book before Stillness is the Key,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>But my favorite chapter is definitely the chapter called enough.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I probably listened to that twenty times just to re

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>remind myself, like, you know, what does it look like?

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>But you have to self identify For some people, enough

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>is it's not really the money. Maybe for some people,

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>enough is living a certain lifestyle that I'm not, you know,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't subscribe to, but that's fine. So really I

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>had to learn this s and self identify what is

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>enough and do I have it? And if I do,

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to put not that I don't work

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>at all, because I still do, but I don't have

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to work as if I'm still trying to achieve what

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I set forth anyway, And so I've never been more aligned.

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like literally, I was going through my my calendar with Rose,

0:30:20.160 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>my adamant today and I was like, girl, why do

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I have like five meeting five things today? No? No,

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>no reschedule these two that can wait until the end

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of the month. And you know, like I was looking

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>at all these little trips that have coming at my sisters,

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and I are all going to be going to Chicago

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to surprise my sister Karen. Hey, Karen, surprise.

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 3>She's not a listener.

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if she's but I'm gonna tell

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 1>her this week.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Addy read shady like all my families, but.

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to like speak in Chicago, and old Tippy

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>would have been like just go and come back. But

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm going to Chicago. Why didn't invite

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>all the sisters to come? And so we've all been

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>to Chicago, but not all the same time with the kids.

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's going to be like we call the Alicia Sisters.

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I know, So I just but I'm just no, because

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>my dad doesn't fly as much now that he's in

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>his mid eighties, he doesn't fly as much, and I

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>don't I know. If I asked my mom, she'll be

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, and I'm like, well, who's gonna watch daddy?

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh fine, I know. So instead, I'm gonna

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>see if I can send him later. I'm gonna see

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>if he wants to go. But as my dad used

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to travel all the time, but now that he's mid

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 1>eight he just doesn't like to travel as much. I'm

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna maybe, you know what I'm gonna see, Maybe I

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>put him on a train, you know, because you can

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 1>do like one of those really comfortable like first class

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like you know, and trains are really comfortable. Maybe that

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>will be like a better I'm gonna see if that

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>because I know my sister would love to see him

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. I mean, she's been here obviously a number

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 1>of times. But yeah, I've never been more aligned. I

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 1>spend way more time with family and friends. I speak

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>to my mentees all the time, I take daily walks,

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I nap, I'm financially stable, I have therapy. I just

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never been more aligned. But I've never worked less.

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I do get a little anxious from not working,

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, for not working as much. But I learned

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.479
<v Speaker 1>to calm myself down, like I have enough, and it

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>feels really awesome. It doesn't mean that there's not growth,

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>because growth is still happening, you know, but you know,

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>not as a result of my hyper productivity, you know,

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>which is not all that productive. And so like, yeah,

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just learning, Like I think my my brown boost

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>is like the concept of enough and learning to lean

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>into it.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>I love that stillness is the key. Do you ever,

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>even on your walk sometimes I feel like I'm turning.

0:32:25.360 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I had been turning my walks into like, oh, be productive,

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 2>listen to this, listen to that, and or catch up

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>on this that you you know you missed, and or

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>listen to the news and whatnot. But I've I've tried

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to get back to just quiet and listening to the

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>birds chirping, and you know, my favorite mom and my

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>favorite walking ladies and kind of eavesdropping on their conversations

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and what's going on with their lives.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I love that walk with some tea. Yeah.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh that reminds me really quickly of Girl Treks. Did

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I tell you I ran into the co founder of

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Girls or Vanessa?

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 3>What is she? The founder?

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Yes?

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yea and Morgan, yeah, the founders. Yeah.

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>So they want a webby for their incredible podcast called

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I forget what it's called, but it's a twenty day

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty one episode podcast series because it's like twenty

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 2>one days walking challenge that they created. And she says, hello,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>it was so funny because we were just talking about

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>what we did and she's like, wall, you have a

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>podcast with who's Tiffany?

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>What about people?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like wearing the shirt anyway? And I know and and

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<v Speaker 2>I know Girl Trek from you. And so if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys haven't heard of Girl Trek, I mean talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a movement they have gotten probably millions of black women

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<v Speaker 2>across the country walking again, getting in touch with that

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<v Speaker 2>space and stillness and quiet and the you know walking.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you haven't checked them out, We'll do a

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<v Speaker 2>bonus boost for for Girl Trek.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl trek dot org. I believe this is their website.

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<v Speaker 1>It's free. You know, if you're a sister and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to walk, you know, you can meet up with

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<v Speaker 1>other sisters, you can walk alone, but they create all

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<v Speaker 1>these challenges to get you out moving. But secretly, she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>their real mission is to solve for loneliness. And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know that, and black women, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you can walk with someone or meet

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<v Speaker 1>up with someone, it's like, oh, you're not alone. There

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<v Speaker 1>are other women who are just like you who'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you and hang out with you. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just an awesome, awesome, awesome organization.

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<v Speaker 3>I love them.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Vanessa if you're listening, and all Girl Trekkers.

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube, Morgan what about Me.

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<v Speaker 3>And Morgan?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, also of Morgan, Well, you know this wasn't Brown

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<v Speaker 2>Ambition with the side of chuckles today. We tried to

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<v Speaker 2>bring you the chuckles home we can, but Brown Ambition

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<v Speaker 2>has always been I feel like a space where we

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<v Speaker 2>get to acknowledge the hard things too and visit them

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<v Speaker 2>and feel a little bit stronger having visited them.

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