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Speaker 1: Tello the Internet, and welcome to Season one fifty seven,

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Speaker 1: Episode five of Daily Night Guys, the production of by

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This here's a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Friday, October. My

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Speaker 1: name's Jack O'Brien a K. Jocula. I'm just kidding, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's it's still me. I'm not I'm not the scary

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Speaker 1: uh and I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy

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Speaker 1: my co host Mr Miles with so many stories on

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Speaker 1: t d Z. It's kind of hard being Jack and

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Speaker 1: Miles of G. But we somehow, some way keep saying

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Speaker 1: ship like fun Fox News, like every single day, May

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Speaker 1: I kick a little something for the Zeke Gang t

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Speaker 1: d Z. Shout out to Dan too in still Roland

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Speaker 1: Blunts and I'm high right now because Jack and Anna

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Speaker 1: more time. I am Miles G. Smoke in home grown,

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Speaker 1: looking up trand in news faded with my mind or

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Speaker 1: Shout out to you, exlutioner. There we go. That's like

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Speaker 1: some Franca type ship's ex loctioner x c x l U. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like elction No, I mean, who knows

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Speaker 1: we we don't know the origin of this name, but

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Speaker 1: we'll give him credit. Okay, Um, Miles, it's election time,

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Speaker 1: it's a COVID time. We're trimming down the format, getting

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Speaker 1: right into all this ship there is to talk about. Uh,

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Speaker 1: today we are talking about you know, we're not usually

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Speaker 1: a true crime podcast, but there is a mystery to

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Speaker 1: solve what happened to Tucker Carlson's documents. Um, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about those explosive documents that went missing, as well

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Speaker 1: as just how the geo he just can't quit this

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden ship. Uh. We're gonna talk about David Purdue

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Speaker 1: uh going up against AUSA in a debate. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about, um, the Armenia Azerbaijan conflict. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Oregon where their health official announced COVID stats and

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Speaker 1: clown makeup. And we're gonna talk about Kim Kardashian's birthday

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Speaker 1: because that is important. All of that. We might even

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Speaker 1: get to Nickelodeon's presidential election for kids. Um, but first,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to introduce our guest in our third seat. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He is a real journalist. Uh. He is the host

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Speaker 1: and executive producer of one of our newest shows, Q Clearance.

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Speaker 1: He is the hilarious, the talented, brilliant Jake Camra. What's up? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good man? I feel like I should start singing with

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Speaker 1: something now, but yeah, did well and welcome. What's what's

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Speaker 1: good man? How how has your dive into the world

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Speaker 1: of Q Clearance of the Q Conspiracy been treating your

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Speaker 1: mental health? First of all, let me ask, do you

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Speaker 1: know what it's It's like so tiring, like you're having

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Speaker 1: to remind myself about all these weird terms that they've

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Speaker 1: come up with. Um, but you know what they're deliberating

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Speaker 1: thing with it? Once I just let go, like how

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Speaker 1: can they believe that? How have they tied them too together?

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Speaker 1: When you let go and just go okay they do,

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Speaker 1: that's it. Just it's much easier, you know, you don't

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Speaker 1: find a reason too right, right? Yeah. I always feel

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Speaker 1: like when when I'm listening to you kind of give

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Speaker 1: people insight and like just you know, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a great primer for the whole QUE conspiracy. If you

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Speaker 1: just explain it and like get that ship over with

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Speaker 1: once and for all. It's great for that, um, but

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Speaker 1: I always feel a little bit of embarrassment because you

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Speaker 1: are not American and this is a uniquely dumbly American

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Speaker 1: product of our culture. So just like hearing you be

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Speaker 1: like he's he's motherfucker's we've got him now though we

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Speaker 1: have like British qu and ons as well, like yeh,

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Speaker 1: just like everything else you know you give us that's bad.

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Speaker 1: We've exported that and taken it as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got you know, BC from McDonald's and we've got

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Speaker 1: it is. But it's uh, it's been definitely and I

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Speaker 1: out know to see the way that you know, this

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Speaker 1: is accumulated online, but yeah, it's it's here to stay

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Speaker 1: for the moment anymore. Do you think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who engage in it are using it purely to

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Speaker 1: you know, I understand in a way. But it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It turns the Internet and just you know, we have

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Speaker 1: like turn reality into the Da Vinci Code, which is

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Speaker 1: a thing that we know they loved. We know Americans

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Speaker 1: love that ship. Yeah, alright, I read that whole book,

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Speaker 1: the exact same my I had relatives who really enjoyed it,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they are kind of dumb. I felt

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Speaker 1: like everyone's like for me, all my white friends dads

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Speaker 1: and then all your white friends dads are now queue

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Speaker 1: and on subscribers. You know, I might have to go

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Speaker 1: back and do a little analysis there. There something there

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Speaker 1: may be some might be a connection there. Um alright, Jake.

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Speaker 1: We like to start off by asking our guests, what

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Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Uh that's revealing about

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Speaker 1: who you are or what you're I had a look

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Speaker 1: pretty weird. This is weird. One is a frazzle drip.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? No, that's the conspiracy

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Speaker 1: fun name for such a horrifying thing. Yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: go out and buy xan x stack. Yeah, that means

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Speaker 1: What was the second thing that you searched? Suicide drone?

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Speaker 1: So can you explain what suicide drones are? Why are

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Speaker 1: Armenia as a by John conflict. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: by its very nature's suicide drone. So it's like essentially

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Speaker 1: got ship. Uh what, Jake, is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 1: but yeah, underrated going on other websites that aren't social media. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what kind of websites are you trafficking? Like? What tell me?

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Speaker 1: What are you heading to to get? After social media? Um?

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Speaker 1: Porn herb now I'm joking now, like all sorts of stuff.

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Speaker 1: the whatever conspiracy drums he can on his media appearances, podcasts,

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Speaker 1: and now Tucker Carlson has I don't know, I guess

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Speaker 1: won the award for one of the saddest attempts at

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Speaker 1: manufacturing a controversy because he claims he has these explosive

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Speaker 1: documents that will just fucking put an end to Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing, FedEx stole them, so um, we

427
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Speaker 1: should be talking about that. It's it's such a weird

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Speaker 1: dud of a thing that he did last night. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna play part of his um where he's really

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Speaker 1: trying to let people know, like, guys, if it weren't

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Speaker 1: for well, I guess I can't show tonight. If it

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Speaker 1: weren't I can't mention that the guy who runs fed

433
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Speaker 1: X is a huge Trump donor. So he also won't

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Speaker 1: call out FedEx by name. So he's in a really

435
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: tough spot trying to like smear whatever slash not get

436
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Speaker 1: in the way of FedEx's business. But here is Tucker

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Speaker 1: Carlson with is just a caper? Are? My executive producer

438
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: Justin Wells and I were in Los Angeles preparing to

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Speaker 1: interview Tony Bobo Lensky about the Biden's business dealings. In China,

440
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Speaker 1: Ukraine in other countries. So we texted a producer in

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Speaker 1: New York and we asked him to send those documents

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Speaker 1: to us in l A. And he did that the

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Speaker 1: only of this week. He shipped those documents overnight to

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Speaker 1: California with a large national carrier, brand name company that

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Speaker 1: we've used, You've used countless time, single problem. But the

446
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: Biden documents never arrived in Los Angeles. Tuesday morning, we

447
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: received word from the shipping company there are package had

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Speaker 1: been opened and the contents were missing. The documents to disappeared,

449
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: now to which credit the company took this very seriously

450
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 1: and immediately began a certain They traced the envelope from

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Speaker 1: the moment our producers dropped it off in Manhattan on

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Speaker 1: Monday all the way to three am yesterday morning. That's

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Speaker 1: when an employee at a sorting facility in another state

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Speaker 1: noticed that our package was open and empty. Okay, so

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00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: this goes on where he starts giving a play by

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00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: play about how like he's like the interviewed every single

457
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Speaker 1: person who may have interacted with it, and they whose yeah,

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00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: and then so then he so after all that, right,

459
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: because this was all just a set up presumably to

460
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Speaker 1: be like, yo, Hunter Biden is on some bullshit, but

461
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: it just turns into like a FedEx lost our damning evidence.

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00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: He kind of cuts to the chase towards at the

463
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Speaker 1: end because we're like, well, what is this all about, Tucker?

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Speaker 1: And then so now he's trying to I guess, build

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Speaker 1: some kind of conspiracy from this. Those documents have vanished

466
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Speaker 1: as of tonight. The company has no idea and no

467
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Speaker 1: working theory even about what happened to this trophe of

468
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Speaker 1: materials documents that are directly relevant to the presidential campaign

469
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: just six days from now. We spoke to executives at

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Speaker 1: that company a few hours ago. They seemed baffled and

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Speaker 1: deeply bothered by this, And so are we, Okay, um

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Speaker 1: on Wandcat, They're very they They're quick to point out

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Speaker 1: obviously that I don't know if you remember Tucker the

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00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: lawyers for Foxes saying Tucker Carlson is not a journalist. Okay,

475
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: he just says some ship. It's like performance art, So

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Speaker 1: you can't actually hold him accountable by any sort of

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Speaker 1: journalistic standard about what he says. So yeah, okay, well

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Speaker 1: with that in mind, and I look at this, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what is it doesn't even make sense, right if you

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00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: had these documents and sent a PDF, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: It only makes sense to people over the age of

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Speaker 1: sixty five who are like used to a world where

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00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: like everything isn't digitized and uh, you know, immediately backed up.

484
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Speaker 1: Especially really something that is like election altering, uh and important.

485
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: It only makes sense if you're if you like your

486
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: brain still exists in the early eighties. Basically, I'm surprised

487
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: me again if it was that important, Tucker. It feels

488
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Speaker 1: like something you would actually say to an older Perry,

489
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: like why would you mail that? Just just scan it?

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00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: Take a photo or something. Then the Social Security card.

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00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: I haven't quicker to take a picture of every single page.

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Speaker 1: And I haven't paid something in the mail in ten

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Speaker 1: years without taking a picture of it with my phone,

494
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Speaker 1: Like I always do that because what if the mail

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Speaker 1: loses it, you gotta like have some evidence that you

496
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Speaker 1: put it in the mail. They didn't think to do that. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I I think that raises questions about Tucker Carlson's

498
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: show and whether they're in cahoots with the Biden campaign. Um. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: because there it looks like Tucker Carlson is willfully hiding

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Speaker 1: evidence of impropriety that are occurring on the Biden side

501
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: of things. So I don't know, maybe Tuer Tucker Carlson's

502
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Speaker 1: a lib. I don't know what's going on, But it's

503
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: all just part of this undying, just dedication to this

504
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: October surprise, where like they're so rigidly still like locked

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Speaker 1: into the Hillary Clinton mindset of like let's get something

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Speaker 1: with emails and the FBI and something else, and then

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Speaker 1: that's how voters will somehow ignore the last you know,

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Speaker 1: three and a half four years of this administration or

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00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: something like that. Right, it's just not it's not working

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Speaker 1: for them. I would love to go out on the

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Speaker 1: town with Hunter Biden, Like that's what I go fun

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Speaker 1: guy to go out with, you know, yeah, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: going after the wrong person to like where most people

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00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: like Hunter Biden is relatable, like most American people, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or like has struggled with any kind of substance abuse

516
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Speaker 1: issues and you're like, oh, man, right, like that's not

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00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: the yeah exactly like now, like but the way Trump

518
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: is talking about was like this guy's a umhaw, can

519
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: you believe it? Joe Biden said he loved his addict son.

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00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: What the funk America? You want this soft ass as

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00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: a president? Like, what the fuck? Most people statistically have

522
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: probably encountered something like this in their life more than

523
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: even like half the other bullshit that he's fused. But

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Speaker 1: I guess we should keep in mind too that Rudy

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Speaker 1: Uh and Steve Bannon also have some legal liability, so

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Speaker 1: they would be doing their best to try and keep

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Speaker 1: this president in office in case they needed some kind

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Speaker 1: of pardon, whether that's Rudy's you know, foreign lobbying work

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Speaker 1: that has still gone unresolved, or Steve Bannon's you know,

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Speaker 1: build the Wall fraud uh festival where he's got like

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Speaker 1: what million dollars uh out out of thin air? So

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Speaker 1: can the president, like, assuming there's not a massive polling error,

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Speaker 1: I said, I still am very worried about Pennsylvania, and

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is the swing state, and the polling is like

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Speaker 1: very tight in Pennsylvania. But just in the scenario where

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Speaker 1: Trump loses, can he act more unaccountable? Like can he

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00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: be like, you know, he's acted so far like he

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Speaker 1: doesn't know that anybody like could be paying attention and

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00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: prosecuting him. But like if he's a lame duck president,

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00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: like just dropping fucking pardons left him right, like he's

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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a site to behold if if

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Speaker 1: we actually come to that point. Yeah, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there'll be some executive orders and things like that, like

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Speaker 1: spite orders on the way out. If again, that assumes

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Speaker 1: that we get to Tuesday and it's not outright rat

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00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: fuck fest when it comes to counting ballots and things

547
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: like that, because we're already seeing uh, you know, a

548
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: lot of tents, uh you know, ballot counters and things

549
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: like that, hoping that we get through this somewhat scott free.

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00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, who knows. I don't think there's

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00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: any limit to what he'll attempt, especially you know, we

552
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: see what he looks like when he has his back

553
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Speaker 1: against the wall, and he he does, he will bring

554
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: everything down with him. Yeah, but Pennsylvania is gonna be

555
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: a complete fucking rap funk fest there because they can't

556
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: start counting until the day of the election, So it's

557
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: gonna look like Trump wont to blowout when everybody goes

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00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: to bed on election there. We'll see, we'll see, we'll see,

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00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: we'll see. Who knows they come on. Now, let's live

560
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: in the present and then deal with that ship when

561
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: it creeps up on our doorstop. Yeah yeah, Uh, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the Armenia Azerbaijan conflict. I feel like the

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00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: mission of our show is to look at the Americans

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Speaker 1: like geist. But um, you know, we also I feel

565
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: like there there is generally a like stories like this

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Speaker 1: should be part of the Americans like gist, right, Like

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00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: America should should care more about conflicts that are happening

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00:32:54,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: overseas that don't directly involve the American military. Um. But yeah, Miles,

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Speaker 1: you you were pointing out that the l A Times

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Speaker 1: has been doing some reporting and uh, it's kind of

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: intersected with just stuff you're seeing with your own friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, for for in l A. You know, the

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Speaker 1: most Armenians living outside of Armenia reside in southern California.

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Speaker 1: So I've grown up around Armenian people, playing sports with

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Speaker 1: like hockey teams, my high school, my personal life. Uh

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Speaker 1: my god children there you know, like we you you

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Speaker 1: if you're in l A, you know about the Armenian experience.

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Speaker 1: And about a month ago I saw all the flags

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Speaker 1: come out. Normally it's on April, marking the genocide. But

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Speaker 1: the flags started coming out in force and I did

581
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Speaker 1: not know what's going on. I started seeing this hashtag

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Speaker 1: of art socks strong. I'm like, what is happening? Then

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Speaker 1: I look around and you realize that it's going off

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Speaker 1: over this very contested region which Armenian as er Baijan

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Speaker 1: had fought over in the late eighties early nineties. So

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Speaker 1: from there I was okay, So this is a hotly

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Speaker 1: contested region. I've known it even like from soccer because

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Speaker 1: on Arsenal we had an Armenian player named Henry mccatarian

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Speaker 1: who's Armenian. We were playing the Europa League final in Azerbaijan,

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Speaker 1: and it was very controversial because he was saying he

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Speaker 1: did not want to play in Azerbaijan because of the

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Speaker 1: Karabak region. Uh and so it was like so I

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Speaker 1: was like, damn, this is a lot of swirling around here.

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Speaker 1: And now in the l A times, because of the

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Speaker 1: communities that are in this city, we're starting to see

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Speaker 1: a lot of men and women leaving Los Angeles to

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Speaker 1: go to Armenia to fight um because for a lot

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Speaker 1: of Armenians who have been displaced, they look at the

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Speaker 1: reason being in Los Angeles or outside of Armenia as

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Speaker 1: an extension of unstable relations in that region over their lifetimes,

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Speaker 1: and going back has been like a no brainer. Like

602
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: there are people who are saying, like, I have to

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Speaker 1: go back even though I've only lived I've lived in

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Speaker 1: the US most of my life. My connection is still

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00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: to this land across the across the world that I

606
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Speaker 1: still feel the need to defend. And the more you

607
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: look into it, it is just a harrowing conflict where

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00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: people the loss of life is just it's massive, and

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00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: we're not really talking about it in this country because

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00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: a I think for obvious reasons, there's there's an election

611
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: going on, so now Americans, or at least the media

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00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: goes the only thing that exists is this horse race.

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, I'm looking at my city and I'm seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of pain. I'm seeing a lot of suffering.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of hurt people. I see our

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00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Median Americans getting all of their resources together to try

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Speaker 1: and send back to our media to help people on

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the front lines of this conflict, and I'm just like,

619
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Speaker 1: I think it's it. We're doing ourselves a disservice by

620
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Speaker 1: ignoring it. I'm certainly doing myself a disservice by not

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Speaker 1: talking about it because it I see it affecting my

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Speaker 1: community in Los Angeles and the broader, you know, the globe.

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Speaker 1: So I think, Jake, what's great about having you here

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Speaker 1: is that you cover global conflict um on on your

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Speaker 1: Twitter feed. I see you post at about this conflict

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00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: as well, So I figured it would be great to

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Speaker 1: just from your perspective, give people a bit of background

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Speaker 1: on this and just how quickly this is devolving. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean to give you this is grim, but to

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Speaker 1: give you an idea of how quickly this is devolving.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's what a month old now, there's been

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Speaker 1: one beheading and as as as a by Johnny soldier

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Speaker 1: beheaded an Armenian guy filmed it, you know, and put

634
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Speaker 1: it on the social media. And then the other day

635
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: the Azeri soldiers um kind of captured two two Armenians.

636
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: One was an old man who's in his seventies and

637
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: the other was like lad was like they wrapped an

638
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: our medium flag around them and then just executed them,

639
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: like shot them, filmed it, put that on social media,

640
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: and then there was footage the other day of Armenian

641
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: soldiers have killed and as a Zeri soldier and like

642
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: answered his phone and it was his family and they're like, yeah,

643
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: your son's dead. Like to give my point is it's

644
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: very very extreme, very grim, very fast, you know what

645
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean. But it was always going to be this

646
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: way because of the situation. Now they're essentially fighting over

647
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: contested land, and annoyingly, you know, the UN has said, oh,

648
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: well that land is kind of officially Azerbaijan's. So then

649
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: everyone says, oh, well, the UN said, we can have it,

650
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: and it's like who cares what the UN said? Like

651
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: the UN ignores war crimes all the time, you know

652
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: what I mean, Um, I don't think they're legitimate in

653
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: that sense. And then you've got Azerbaijan with loads and

654
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: loads and loads of money, loads of money on military spending,

655
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Turkeys backing them up, sending Syrian mercenaries to fight for Azerbaijan.

656
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: They've they've they've already parked two Turkish F sixteen planes.

657
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: They just dropped a load of these suicide jones. And

658
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: then if you look at the Armenians like they're spending,

659
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: is is miniscule compared there are very poor country in

660
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: that respect, and you've just got like the whole community,

661
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: like you said, just people just go in and being

662
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: like we have to go and fight. I mean the

663
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Prime Minister um Nicolai Paschina and he said the other

664
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: day we'll fight to the end now, like basically, I

665
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: think he realized no one is coming to help Russia

666
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: a kind of meant to help, I mean it, but

667
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: they don't really care. Um. So I think he just realized,

668
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: like we just you know, will fight to the end.

669
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Where it's not helpful talk, but that's the desperation, right,

670
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: Like he's told everybody, if you can pick up a rifle,

671
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: pick went up and go to the region. So I

672
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: think it's very weird to see that modern day kind

673
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: of vibe that happening in these two countries and then

674
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: for it to be mostly ignored, especially when it can

675
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, essentially you've got Turkey, which are

676
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: helping Azerbaijan, a NATO country which obviously America is a

677
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: part of. Azerbaijan, have literally said they want to genocide

678
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: people like I'm not graduating. They've literally said like officially,

679
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: like yes, we will wipe them all out, like we

680
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: want to get rid of every single Armenian on this land.

681
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: In fact, in two thousand and five, I think it was,

682
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: the Foreign Minister was in Germany of all places and said,

683
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: you see what you guys the Nazis did to the Jews,

684
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: we want to do that to our Menians. Literally said

685
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: that it's officially, you can look it up, so there's

686
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: no kind of misconception about what is going to happen there.

687
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 1: And like you said earlier, like you know, Genocide Watch,

688
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 1: I think they put it up to level nine whatever

689
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: that means. But basically saying this is going to be very,

690
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: very bad if the series soldiers get to where they're

691
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: trying to go. Now, I'm not I'm not trying to

692
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: add like, oh, the Armenians of these you know, complete angels,

693
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: they're not. It's a war. War was grim and nasty.

694
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: I mean today Imania used cluster munitions on people in Azerbaijan,

695
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: which is a big no no, you know, it's a

696
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a war crime. Actually technically in the

697
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: U N's eyes, I don't know. So yeah, it's it's grim,

698
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: but warries grim and war is fought by you know,

699
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: brutal violence. But essentially Azerbaijan did start this offensive a

700
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: month ago. You know, I've been following this very closely

701
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: for years, not just now. Like um my podcast Popular Front,

702
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: we did a we did an episode about Nogal Karabac

703
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: three years ago basically saying this is what will happen

704
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: if the war kicks off. Um, and you know we

705
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: were right. So it's very very grim. It's happening very fast,

706
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: and like you said, it's pulling in the Aspira, it's

707
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: pulling in different countries where like you know, Russia has

708
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: a bise in Armenia, but they supply weapons to Wazzle

709
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: by John Turkey Nights or everything. So it's a big

710
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: mess money and it's worried it's going to go bad,

711
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: I think. And we're also even starting to see people

712
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: like audition drones uh in this battlefield, Like we're starting

713
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: to see this new like what the new era of

714
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: drone warfare is trying to look like with like a

715
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: lot because they're getting drones from Russia or Israel or

716
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: Israel or Turkey and things like that, where now it's like, well, uh,

717
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: it's it's also grim to see like how how things

718
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: how quickly the fighting is even evolving technologically too, from

719
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: like you know, from the nineties we used to think

720
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: of like oh, it's like small munitions fire and like mortars,

721
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: and now we're talking about these kinds of drones and yeah,

722
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: it's it's really harrowing. And I think for me, what

723
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: really breaks my heart is, like I think in the US, right,

724
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: we don't we we have an attention span for global

725
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: suffering that is like very very narrow uh. And but

726
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: this is like one of those moments I think for

727
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: especially for people in l A. If you know, if

728
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: you have your eyes open and know people in the

729
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: Armenian community, like it's really fucked up to even think, right,

730
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: these are people I grew up with who are now

731
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: saying like, you know, my cousins just left to go fight,

732
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, didn't they grow up in the valley.

733
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: They're like yeah, but this is the purpose now of

734
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: our lives. Um. And when you hear people say that

735
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: my life's purpose has become very clear, suddenly it you

736
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: feel sick, you feel awful, You you want to help.

737
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: You don't know what's wrong with your own country because

738
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: there's you know, we saw that there was a ceasefire

739
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: broke brokered, but that was that fell apart like within

740
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: an hour. I feel like there's been three three ceasefires,

741
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: none of them lasted more than like ten minutes. It's crazy, right,

742
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: And there's also like, yeah, I feel like as everbody

743
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: has done a great job of you know, greenwashing a

744
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: lot of their actions around the world where you can

745
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: see like some people aren't really talking about it with

746
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: the full breadth of facts that they should be. Um,

747
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, that that's another part that I think

748
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: is is really fucked up is that people are also

749
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: getting very you know, unbalanced presentations of what the situation is. No,

750
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: you're right, And and also because as a by, John

751
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: has a lot more money to spend on that, you know,

752
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: the sock puppet accounts all of that influence in the media.

753
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesus Christ. The other day, the official Instagram

754
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: account of Azerbai, John McDonald's was promoting the war literally

755
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: saying like go soldiers Like McDonald's like, what the fun

756
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: um and the problem? People say to me, well, you're

757
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: you're you're biased to this, You're biased to Armenia, And

758
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's not biased to point out one side

759
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: is literally said we want to genocide someone. That's literally

760
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: the truth. If as if our Menia there's something bad,

761
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: we discussed it as well. I say, well why do

762
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: they use you know, cluster munitions. Um. But but when

763
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: one side is literally saying we want to genocide you

764
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: and the Armenians have already been through a genocide which

765
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: NATO's second largest country or Nate's nator second largest army,

766
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Turkey deniers ever happened having done it. Like you've got

767
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: to say this is not good, like this is going

768
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: very bad. And you're talking about like you know, you're

769
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: seeing people leave from l A. But we saw something

770
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: in Europe last night, a very different reversal role. I

771
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: guess um, the diaspora Turkish and Azeri community got together

772
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: last night in Leon and went on a lynch mob.

773
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 1: There was hundreds of them walking through the streets, smashing things,

774
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: saying come out you Armenian docks and they just started

775
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: attacking like Armenian people Like this is crazy, Like this

776
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: is seriously getting out of hand, you know. Um. And

777
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying oh bad good, There is no good

778
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: and bad and words. It's just all bad, you know.

779
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day you have to

780
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: point out what's going wrong. Yeah, it's no, it's no

781
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: use saying well, what about this side, what about that side?

782
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: When we're talking about literal genocide and I don't use

783
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,720
Speaker 1: that word likely people always use that word, and often

784
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: it's it's like, no, that was a mass murder or

785
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that, you know, but this it could be.

786
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: You know, like we said, the government in Azerbaijan is like, yeah, yeah,

787
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: we want to do a genocide. Like what can you

788
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: do on the the limit of the U S news

789
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: consumers imagination. Part of me thinks you need to like

790
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: really put them in the position of the people in

791
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: the war. Like one of the best uh ways that

792
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: I've heard somebody get people to care about a foreign

793
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: conflict was actually in Robert Evans is it could happen here,

794
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: because he was using like foreign conflicts as a metaphor

795
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: for what could happen in the United States. And I

796
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: just wonder, like the way death of Stalin just made

797
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: everyone an English speaker with like mannerisms and affectations that

798
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: we could all understand culturally. I wonder like if that's

799
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: sort of how we need to be thinking about getting

800
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: Americans to to care like even though it's it sounds

801
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: incredibly dumb and like it's like, well if there, if

802
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: it's that hard to hold their hand, than like you

803
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: know what, maybe just fuck them. But at the same time,

804
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: it is like, so I don't know, it's so easy

805
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: to relate to if you just get past a certain point.

806
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I just think there's a short circuit that happens when

807
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: they hear a foreign city name, they hear a foreign

808
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: country name. And Americans, especially like modern Americans, have lived

809
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: their lives completely dissociated from being near any sort of war.

810
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: Like even the words that America has fought have been distant, uh,

811
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: and you know, only happening on the news. And I

812
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: think the uh, the American brain has just learned to

813
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: just be like, well, that's something that happened somewhere else.

814
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I can short circuit that turn it off. But first

815
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: of all, it's not that far from where we are

816
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: at this moment politically. Uh. And second of all, I

817
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: I think that I think there's a way to get

818
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: them to understand like this is this would be like

819
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: if you know, US States went to war with one another,

820
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: like just like in terms of the size of the

821
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: state in terms of the population, like in terms of

822
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: the interstate rivalries, like they're not quite that bad, but

823
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: we we battle them out on like stupid like getting

824
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: drunk and watching football games. But like you know, I

825
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: do think that there's like corollaries that could help make

826
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: it make sense to people. Yeah, I know what you mean.

827
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about America really to think what

828
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: the comparison will be, but I know what you mean,

829
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's it's not just America as well.

830
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, I understand, you know,

831
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: like people work in sixty seven hours a week, like

832
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: breaking their neck, but they haven't got time. You know,

833
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: you can't expect them to always do it. But like

834
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: you said, it's like I and I believe I think

835
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: you were saying as well. I think if there is

836
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: like hell going on in the world and you're in

837
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: a peaceful place relatively, you should It's kind of you're

838
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: obliged to least know that it's happening. I think, you know,

839
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: just just to your fellow man, your fellow woman, right,

840
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: it's like you should know that these people are living

841
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: through hell and that there's fighting going on. But I

842
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: found that that's not a good enough way to get

843
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: people to care for my work. Um, The way I

844
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: I've always approached it with my like reporting, specifically my documentaries,

845
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: is we spend a lot of time around the people.

846
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: It's not like go to the front line and then

847
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: funk off. It's like, no, we we you know, when

848
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: I was filming with Kurdish militants, we live with them,

849
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: we slept with them, we ate with them. Not like that,

850
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, we were with them

851
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: all the time. And you know when you see the documentaries,

852
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, right, they're just like me. But they're

853
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: just unfortunately in a place where war is on their

854
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: doors stair out. You know, these are young men and

855
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: women that would rather be playing PlayStation or doing sports

856
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: or going to school, but unfortunately they don't have that, um,

857
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: that privilege to do so. So you know, people have

858
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: this idea that like oh, balaklava or gun or whatever,

859
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, the big bad guy or it's

860
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: terrorism or whatever. Like often it's just people that are like, fuck,

861
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose, Like my mom won't have anywhere to

862
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: live if we lose this land, you know, And I

863
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: think when you kind of knock it down to that

864
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: very basic level of like, how would you feel if

865
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: your grandparents, you know, it didn't have a house anymore.

866
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: Like it's literally that. I mean in two thousand and

867
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: sixty and there was what they called the four Day War, Um,

868
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: this is not going to a Carabat conflict between Armenia

869
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: and I was by John flared up again. Within four days,

870
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: ya Zeri soldiers beheaded a young Armenian Yazdi Man, and

871
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: broke into the home of two old people and cut

872
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: off their ears, which was like an old kind of

873
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: brutal thing that used to happen in the nineties, you know.

874
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: So it's that like, imagine that happening to your grandparents, right,

875
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Imagine that happening to your friend, like how he's gone

876
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: to war and they cut his head off or whatever,

877
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, or or the other day or let's even

878
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the other side. The other day there was a video

879
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: of some Armenian like gun butting a guy to death

880
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: that they've captured. It's just horrific, you know what I'm saying.

881
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: It's like it's so grizzly, and it's it's it's worth knowing,

882
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: Like you know, no normal people are forced into these situations.

883
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: No one wants to be at war. They didn't choose it. Well,

884
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Yeah, alright, let's take a

885
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back,

886
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: and there's this very surreal video that's also kind of

887
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: making a lot of sense. An Oregon health official went

888
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: on an announced COVID stats in clown makeup yere poache

889
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: or poach it. It just feels again very uh. This

890
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: it's you know, Public Access TV. She works with the

891
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: Oregon Health Authority, and she's announcing COVID statistics in like

892
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: old timey like a box car clown makeup. Um. And

893
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: I'm just for people who we're watching the video, but

894
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: just imagine that the voice saying this is dressed in

895
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: just a really cool clown outfit. As of today, there

896
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: have been thirty eight thousand six cases of COVID nineteen

897
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: in Oregon, with three new cases being reported today. Sadly,

898
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: we are also reporting three deaths today, bringing the statewide

899
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: total for COVID nineteen related deaths to six eight. Yeah,

900
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: it's so strange. Everyone has so many questions about this.

901
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: They're saying why, like at a certain point, you'd be like,

902
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: oh wait, hold on, Claire's about to do the announcement

903
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: in clown makeup, okay, tagging an intern or fucking anyone else.

904
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: So it doesn't look like sort of how the US

905
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: is responding to this, like in a very like with

906
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: buffoonery and like this disconnection to reality. Um and other

907
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: people were like, well, you know, it's like Halloween, so

908
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I get it. Meane, people are like doing costume stuff.

909
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: Video was recorded on October, so this is two weeks out,

910
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going on. It's just there.

911
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: Like when they were asked, the officials from the department

912
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: were like, it's just a costume. That's that's it. That's

913
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: all that was, And like no other comment. She's wearing costume. Yeah,

914
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's just so on brand for

915
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: for this year, that visual. But yeah, I just thought

916
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I had to bring that up because everything is so surreal.

917
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: I thought this story was like about a piece of

918
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: performance art where she was like being like kind of

919
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: just this is this is what our government is is

920
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,919
Speaker 1: like a complete clown show. Uh. And but the fact

921
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: that she's just been like yeah, no, I don't know.

922
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: I just thought it was some wild ship in this

923
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: video clown who Yeah, but what's the problem. Yeah, which

924
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: I said it this is a costume or did you

925
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: hear what I said about COVID and actions. It's such

926
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: a yeah. And even then, like apparently in the full clip,

927
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Claire never talks about the costume, like never's like, lease,

928
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: pardon you know what I mean, Like you'd feel like

929
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: if you were aware, you'd be like, I'm terribly sorry

930
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: about my appearance for this. Um so I just or

931
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: you would just be like, Hi, camera person, just go

932
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: to the person who's doing the sign language interpretation. Just

933
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: focus on that. Maybe just give me a still photo. Uh,

934
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: you don't have to show me animated. But it's so weird,

935
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, this is legitimately a

936
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: bit that Will Ferrell did when we were announcing the

937
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 1: like joint venture podcast network we launched with him, right yeah,

938
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: at the at the upfronts where like you announced like

939
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: what your upcoming slate is to advertisers, our CEO was like,

940
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: and here's Will Ferrell to talk about to announce something,

941
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: and he just got on and did like a very straightforward,

942
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: like an announcement of why he was excited about the

943
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: podcast space, but he had like very strange clown makeup

944
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: on and never addressed it at all. And it was

945
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: like very funny but amazing, an amazing bit that feels. Yeah,

946
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: it feels contextually a little bit like a little bit

947
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: of a stranger um use of of that bit. Um.

948
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 1: Maybe she's just trying to bring attention to her state

949
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: or something, right that could that that would make sense. Yeah,

950
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: unless she did it that ship. You know, she she's

951
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: too busy to travel in the rails with a bendle

952
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: stick to Uh yeah, um yeah. Maybe that was like

953
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: she was making a big political statement. But then her

954
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: higher ups were just like shut up, and so she

955
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to explain it. I don't know. Alright,

956
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: let's talk Kim Kardashian. This is just yet another kind

957
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 1: of glimpse into the world of celebrity. It's almost like

958
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: a portal from three years ago. These famous, very wealthy

959
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: people are still living in the world that built them. Uh,

960
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, she got famous, she got extremely wealthy doing

961
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: ship like this, like living a wild luxurious lifestyle, giving

962
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: us tours of her like twenty million dollar home. Uh

963
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: that like has sinks without sick basins. Uh. And and

964
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: before like just a couple of years ago, that's what

965
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: we pointed to. We were like, ah, that place looks

966
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: weird rather than like, you know, just how brutally unequal

967
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: our culture is, our society is. But this, this was

968
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: especially tasteless. So Kim, for her fort took I don't know,

969
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: like a hundred of her closest friends, uh to a

970
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Tahitian island, probably spent millions of dollars doing this it

971
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: looked like millions of dollars, and then posted about it

972
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: in detail on social media, just loads of pictures of

973
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: everybody partying together with no masks on except for the

974
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: waiters who had to wear masks because they were risking

975
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: their lives to uh you know, wait weight on these people.

976
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, like she I understand the

977
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: tone deafness because she built a career doing ship like this. Yeah,

978
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: but it's weird. They they don't have they haven't gotten

979
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: the note yet, which is so odd. They still think

980
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: it's twenty nineteen, and like the celebrity worship ship is

981
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 1: still you know, at the like firing at the same

982
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: level used to. I think the imagined video was the

983
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: first opportunity for a lot of celebrities to be like, Okay,

984
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: we need to shut the funk up, hide and not

985
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: show reveal any dimension of how our lives are as

986
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: like the hyper privileged, you know, luxury life leading people

987
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 1: we are. Yet there's still like this thing where it's

988
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: still like there's still the flex, Like the celebrities still

989
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: need to do the flex, and people don't. They're not

990
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: reading the room. The flex is dead, the flex is vulgar,

991
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: and the flex has now become violent. Um And by

992
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: being like I don't know forty and feeling so humbled,

993
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: there's like I think there's a there's a moment in

994
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: her like tweet thread where she's like, I realize how

995
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 1: most people in times like this aren't able to do that.

996
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: So I'm super humbled by my privilege. As if that's

997
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: like humbled by my I'm humbly reminded of how privileged

998
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: my life is. Leave it alone, you know where she is?

999
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: I um, I read today so where they had the

1000
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: party um per capita it is the third worst place

1001
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: for having COVID. So it's like ship, Yes, God knows

1002
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: how many people maybe have got infected and spread it,

1003
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: so who knows who after the back of it, you know,

1004
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 1: it's just irresponsible as well, you know, even medically. I

1005
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: think absolutely there's this I don't know when they're gonna

1006
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: realize that, like the the the balance has completely shifted

1007
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: in terms of like the aesthetic that people find appealing

1008
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: and those they find just angering, you know, and when

1009
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: you have when we're living in a country, especially the

1010
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: United States, where the federal government has completely turned its

1011
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: back on working people and those who are unemployed, or

1012
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: even only certain municipalities are like, okay, maybe we shouldn't

1013
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: evict people in a time where many people aren't able

1014
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: to work that too, then flaunt this like private jet

1015
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: bullshit where like everyone's being like essentially just distills too.

1016
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: We're so rich, we can fucking erase everything that's happening

1017
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: in your poor people life existence and keep our ship

1018
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: going because the guess what, the show don't stop for

1019
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: a hop. We keep it going. And like these people

1020
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: were will wear masks because they're working people, and god forbid,

1021
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: we spend all this money to act like nothing's going

1022
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: on that we get sick. It's just really I feel

1023
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: like the smart if you're smart, if you're a celebrity.

1024
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: Because I know so many A list celebrities listen to

1025
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: this podcast. Uh, just fucking hide because people are People's

1026
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: attitudes are changing very rapidly to the like this have

1027
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: and have not culture we have and most people are

1028
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: not being like it would be sick if I had that.

1029
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Most people are like, I'm gonna sucking eat you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1030
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: you know what I noticed as well. I think, like,

1031
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: I think you've really hit the nail on the head

1032
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: there um. But but why, I know, especially amongst friends,

1033
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: it went from realizing have and have not is actually

1034
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: us versus them, you know what I mean? And I

1035
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: don't think that's necessarily a bad thing because if you

1036
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: can use it to be like, let's have a more

1037
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: just society, let's educate people on there is another way,

1038
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: or we can be fairer. We don't have to be

1039
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: like hyper capitalist celebrity lunatics. Like I think this might

1040
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: be a good thing where people stopped trying to obtain

1041
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: that wealth and celebrity. Maybe not, but I think there's

1042
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: certainly people have shot me, have been like fuck like Kadashi,

1043
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, funk. Whoever, Whereas before I wouldn't have thought

1044
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: they had said that so, but no, I agree with

1045
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: you completely. Man. It's it's such a fucking deaf moment,

1046
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: right when dude, when did she become famous? Like when

1047
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: did their family? It was like during the two thousand tents,

1048
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: Like that's when, because I mean the sex tape. Well,

1049
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: first she was Harris Hilton's she was Paris Hilton's bff,

1050
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: and she was getting in the background with a lot

1051
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: of club shots when Paris was going to the party

1052
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Speaker 1: and they were like, who is Paris's new friend with

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Speaker 1: the dark hair, uh, And they're like, that's Robert Kardashian

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Speaker 1: o J's lawyer's daughter Kim. And then the sex tape

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Speaker 1: got her like her own lane and then from there,

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Speaker 1: you know, one thing just led to another. Boom boom boom,

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Speaker 1: because for a while, I think it was we were

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Speaker 1: living at a point like in American culture, where it

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Speaker 1: was this easy to just dismiss all the ills of

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Speaker 1: the of the country, to just be like, nah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I were I'm being underpaid and overworked, but I

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Speaker 1: go on, I pop on E and I escape to

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Speaker 1: my world where oh my god, Scott Disick is a

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Speaker 1: mess and Mason is so cute. And now when as

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Speaker 1: things just become more vivid about like how what the

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Speaker 1: actual the sickness that exists in our country, especially like

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Speaker 1: the worship of material goods and items that you look

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Speaker 1: at this and you're like, this offers me no comfort anymore.

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Speaker 1: This actually is angering and to your point, Jake, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: like it's hopefully will erode this like false class solidarity

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Speaker 1: a lot of people have with celebrities by being like,

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Speaker 1: well leave her alone. Where now people are like the

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Speaker 1: replies to Kim Kardashian's that those tweets, I think say

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Speaker 1: at all where people are like, hey, asshole, Like I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen my family in months because they're elderly, and

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Speaker 1: I also can't afford to go there because I have

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Speaker 1: no job. But yeah, do you on your fucking island? Um? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like when we look back years from now,

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Speaker 1: like this period from like when Paris Hilton became famous too,

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Speaker 1: will be the period that like looks very strange, you know,

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Speaker 1: like that that doesn't make because like in the nineties

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Speaker 1: and eighties, like I always talk about this like concept

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Speaker 1: of like selling out being a thing that people thought

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Speaker 1: was a bad thing, and then like it just went away,

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Speaker 1: like people just you know, like Kurt Cobain was like

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Speaker 1: mortified that he was wealthy. Uh, and like I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a returning awareness, like we're waking

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Speaker 1: up from this dream where it was just pure aspirational

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Speaker 1: bullshit and now it's now it's back to reality. Like

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Speaker 1: where in the early nineties people were like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can sell out. You selling out as a bad thing,

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's not cool. Well, yeah, I think we've

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Speaker 1: just we've reached the end of the drug trip of

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Speaker 1: like worshiping the stat as symbols, you know, because we

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: completely burnt it out to the point where now it's

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Speaker 1: like you see it, that's all vaporware, Like it's not really,

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Speaker 1: it's just it was some ship too comfort you about

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Speaker 1: maybe what your own future is. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: more people get with their reality, Like, man, I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna be some fucking influencer driving around nine Lamborghini's Like

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Speaker 1: that's fucking stupid. Like I would just like to own

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Speaker 1: a little piece of land and have my kids get

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Speaker 1: educated and not have to worry about like my healthcare

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Speaker 1: because right now I live in a country where I

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Speaker 1: could be killed by the police, have no health insurance

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Speaker 1: and people are dragged out of their homes because they're

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Speaker 1: from some other place. Like that's that's what's becoming very

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Speaker 1: real to a lot of people. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, down with the Kardashian bullshit, you know, and

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Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what replaces it. Something else that

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Speaker 1: I just want to mention quickly is I've noticed in

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Speaker 1: my country, in Britain at least, like class is becoming

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Speaker 1: more recognized again. You know that when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: class was a very big issue. It wasn't about like

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like if you're a class, whatever you

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Speaker 1: ruled together now a good thing, the kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: like the kind of woke celebrity stuff. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are like fuck them, like you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you can't say that because you're

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Speaker 1: so rich. You don't know what it's like with me,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tim and you seth from whoever else. You know.

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Speaker 1: So in my country I've noticed, which I think is

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Speaker 1: a good thing, you know, like you know, it's solid

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Speaker 1: diarity with each other, like, hey, we're both fucking poor,

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Speaker 1: we don't need to hate each other. It's them who

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Speaker 1: are lying, you know, And I think I think that

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Speaker 1: can only be a good thing personally so long as

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Speaker 1: it's you know, constructive, right, And I think, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: for for other people who are like, man, you know why,

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Speaker 1: you know why our situation is so bad and whatever

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Speaker 1: X American City, and they go like because the immigrants

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm sure at a certain point they look

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Speaker 1: around and like, well, where are the immigrants that have

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Speaker 1: all that money they took from you? Because I'm sure

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Speaker 1: comparatively you're doing much better than them, so please explain

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Speaker 1: where that money went. I will actually, I will challenge

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Speaker 1: you to a thought experiment and look at how your

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Speaker 1: bosses lived and look at how the people above them live,

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Speaker 1: because they might that might be where your money is going.

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Speaker 1: Not these other downtriden people that you're bosses have very

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: uh skillfully convinced you is the root cause of your

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Speaker 1: lack of opportunity, when the whole time it was them.

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Speaker 1: And I think maybe that's what people are trying to

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Speaker 1: see with the Kardashians, it was like it was them,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, this yeah, And I mean this has been

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Speaker 1: the period of you know, in addition to buying into

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Speaker 1: that world of celebrity and like, yeah, we us on

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Speaker 1: the Wolke celebrities are on the same side. Fox News

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Speaker 1: has like given the alternate like you're saying, Miles, the

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Speaker 1: immigrants took our jobs explanation, and hopefully we're coming to

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Speaker 1: an end of that where like people aren't coming up

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: with these like bullshit polarization ideas where we're just buying

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01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: into uh well, I'm I'm for the celebrities and your

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 1: first Sean Hannity and it's like, you know, those they're

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Speaker 1: the same side, and then they can go themselves. Yeah. Um, Jake,

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Speaker 1: it's been great having you, man um. Where can people

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Speaker 1: find you? Follow you here? You all that good stuff? Um.

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Speaker 1: Normally on Twitter, Jake underscore hand rahand that's my sur

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Speaker 1: names annoying. It's h A n A h A n um.

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Speaker 1: On my website Jake Hanrahan dot com. You'll see all

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Speaker 1: my work though. Nice And is there a Twitter some

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Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah? No, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: today I saw my friend posted, you know, Kowloon the

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Speaker 1: World City. Um. I think it was in Hong Kong,

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Speaker 1: like years ago. They just kept building up and up

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Speaker 1: and up, and it was like a slum but it

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Speaker 1: was like up, you know, and it was so cool.

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Speaker 1: And then someone found some red photos and was just

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Speaker 1: like tweeting a thread of that out today and it's

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Speaker 1: just amazing. It's not down now, but yeah, really cool man.

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Speaker 1: Nice Miles. Where can people find you? What's the tweet

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Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Uh? You can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also my other

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Speaker 1: podcast for twenty Day Fiance, where I escape reality by

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Speaker 1: diving into reality television as as one is wanting to do. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: let's a tweet that I like. Um, let's go with

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Speaker 1: this one from past guest Tamara Yahia at Dances with Tamas.

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Speaker 1: She tweets, my sister is watching the news room and

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Speaker 1: thinks Jeff Daniels is Dave coolier. She said, good for him.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to see him doing a dramatic role. No

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Speaker 1: one is correcting her. Alright. Some tweets I've been enjoying,

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Speaker 1: Uh uh, there's there's one that's a visual thing that

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Speaker 1: people can just find on my feet because I retweeted

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: it from Rob Delaney. It's just a video where he

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Speaker 1: said this is insanely impressive. It's a physical stunt that

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Speaker 1: is very impressive. People should should check it out. Paula Vignalen,

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Speaker 1: former guest, tweeted, legends were just the loudest men at

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Speaker 1: the time, and then uh Patrick Monahan tweeted, they call

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Speaker 1: me Mr says thanks multiple times in the same email

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Speaker 1: before signing off. Thanks identified that before you send your like, funk,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get rid of a couple of these things.

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Speaker 1: If I do have time to reread an email before

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Speaker 1: I send it. Yeah, it's usually to make it less profusely,

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Speaker 1: like yes, sir, there you go, sir, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. We appreciate it, thank you for reading this.

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Speaker 1: Uh than the first word is thanks and the last

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Speaker 1: word is thanks, thanks and thanks for that. Thanks again, Jack.

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Speaker 1: Thanks like escalating, yeah, doubles Like there's times when I'm

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Speaker 1: conflicted about using an exclamation point. I'm like, do I

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Speaker 1: really mean to be this excited about it or this?

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Speaker 1: Should I be real with them and use a period

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Speaker 1: so they know where I'm at emotionally with this? Thanks? Thanks? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: totally different. Yeah, but people do need to check out

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Speaker 1: that rob delay, you think, because it's the most laughing

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Speaker 1: uh at a tweet probably in months. Uh. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at daily Zeite Guys. Were at

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zite Guys on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1209
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Speaker 1: fan page on a website, Daily zite Guys dot com

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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we

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Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as the song we ride out

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Speaker 1: on miles What are we riding out on today? We're

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Speaker 1: gonna go out on a track by Slow Tie featuring

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Speaker 1: James Blake and Mount can Be. He's from where I'm from,

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Speaker 1: Slow Ties from where I'm from. Oh yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I love UK music, I love all music. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I've been on a I've been on a sort of

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Speaker 1: drill kick recently as well. But yeah, this is this

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Speaker 1: tracks like it's got it all. You've got James Blake,

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Speaker 1: You've got Slow Tie, you got that Mount can Be feeling.

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Speaker 1: So this is called feel Away because I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're just trying to feel away whatever we're feeling, so

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Speaker 1: good title for in a good time away Feeling all

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Speaker 1: Right the Day Leeza Guys that are production of by

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Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows. That it's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to tell

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Speaker 1: you what's trending, and we will talk to y'all. Then

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Speaker 1: bye bye. Setting meat off that I used to be

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Speaker 1: but you can need, hopefully you couldn't be. It's not you,

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Speaker 1: so like this is me. It's not used, So I

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Speaker 1: guess it's me sutting me off from what I used

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Speaker 1: to be, but you can need, you couldn't be. It's

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Speaker 1: not used, so like this is me this time, this time, most,

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Speaker 1: this time, this time, time, this time,