1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome into NRG Stadium in the Hunday 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. Mark Van Damyer with you with John Harris. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: As we are forty eight hours after the draft, still here. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Actually I went home and got some rest, and I 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: presume Johnny did the same, right think, Okay, you did 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: do the Texans Draft special which was last night on 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: ABC thirteen, and we're gonna reair most of that on 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Saturday night on ABC thirteen because why not. It's so 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: good and it'll be an eleven o'clock Saturday night for 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: you to check out some really great, unique exclusive footage 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of these guys. So check it out 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: on Saturday night. Anyway, the draft is over, the grades 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: are in, and Johnny, is there anything less relevant than 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: draft grades? Of course, if the Texans were getting all 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: a's from everybody, I'd say, see, they got a's from everybody, 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: But but they didn't quite get a's from everybody. I 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: still think it's a very interesting draft, and certainly with 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: when you look at the top three picks, they did 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: everything we wanted them to do with those top three 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: picks position group wise, and now you just have to 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: see how it all plays out. Well, I looked at 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: I think the Draft network they did as studs and duds, 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: and they they they made tight As Howard a dud, 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: and I just the reasoning to it. I thought, as 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: everybody's reasoning has been, well they could have gotten him later. No, 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: they couldn't have. I guarantee Tynis Howard's not getting out 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: of the first round. So no, they couldn't have got 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: brought up a good point. Look how many teams he visited? Yeah, absolutely, 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: he visited twenty four teams. I mean that shows great interest, 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: no doubt. And I know a lot of some people said, 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: well that's because they were looking him in the second round. No, 32 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: Tynis Howard was going to go in the first round. 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: I could almost promise you that. I know there were 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: teams in the league that were very, very interested, and 35 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: the Draft Network said, well you could have drafted this guy, 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: that guy, and that guy, and I looked at him, 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: went well, that guy's a guard, and that guy went 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: in the fifth round and he's not very good at all. 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: And the last one is a guy that went in 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: the fourth, fifth round. So what do you like? I 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't understand what you're what you're going with here. 42 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: So anyhow, I just think the beauty is in yeah 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: to beholder, and I know I know how they felt 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: about Titus. He's got a ton of potential, and I 45 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: know that they they want to they want to get 46 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: at that high ceiling. And if they get to the 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: high ceiling, then obviously everybody will look back in three 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: four years those grades and go, um, yeah, maybe we 49 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: were wrong. Actually they won't say that. They will say 50 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: that because they don't have to say that. No, they 51 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: don't have to. And that's the thing I changed my 52 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: philosophy with that. I started I stopped doing draft grades 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: about eight or nine years ago, and I started looking 54 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: at three or four years from what the draft grade 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: should have been. So the grade that should be coming 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: out should be your grade on the twenty sixteen draft 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: or twenty yeah, twenty sixteen draft. That was three years ago, 58 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: and unfortunately for the Texans hard to say because Will 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Fuller hasn't been able to stay in the field. He's 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: been on af he's been dynamic Nick Martin when he 61 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: has been on the field, he's been solid at center. 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: And then your last pick of that that twenty sixteen 63 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: draft ended up being DJ Reader and that is home 64 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: run of massive mass proportions. So from that perspective, you 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: look at the draft from three years ago, that's what 66 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: you should do because giving the Texas to C minus 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: because they drafted a player with a lot of upside, 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a lot of potential when he play at FCS school, 69 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: and that's the only reason you're giving him a C minus. Yeah, 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: I think you'll let him play at least two seasons now. 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: First round pick, you want to see something right away, 72 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have to necessarily be a starter unless he's a 73 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: top ten, top fifteen guy, but should be a starter 74 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: ultimately and should be well on his way to becoming 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: a starter by the end of the first year. But 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: we all know that circumstances come into play, and if 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: that were true, then a whole lot of teams around 78 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: the league would have a whole lot of first rounders 79 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: on their roster, and they really don't. Yeah, And when 80 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: you look at these grades, it's almost like the NCAA 81 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: tournament with the amount of a's being handed out for 82 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: various teams. I want to look at these great errors 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: and say, well, how many as have you handed out 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: for the last three four years? Because we should have 85 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: a whole lot of teams that are doing better than 86 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: they are because clearly it's an inexact science. Anyway, we're 87 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: to talk more about Dale wearing a tight end take 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: it in the third round. Kind of a surprise pick, 89 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: but maybe not. Let's talk about him. We're gonna hear 90 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: from him during the show, but let's start things off 91 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien. We caught up with him right after 92 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: the draft, and this is the conversation. We began it 93 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: talking about Cullen Galaspia, who is an aggy folk hero, 94 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: the twelfth man, solid player and our real interesting guy. Yeah, 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: it is an intriguing guy, a guy that we watched 96 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: very closely during his time at Texas A and M. 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: And then he came to our local pro day and 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: he was impressive. He's uh, he's a guy that when 99 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: you when you're you know, given that that status of 100 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: the twelfth man at Texas A and M, that's a 101 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: big deal. You know. That shows leadership and that shows uh, 102 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 1: you know, really someone that just really embraces the role 103 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: on the team, you know, and so when you watch 104 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: him cover kicks, he does it with a passion. Uh, 105 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: he does it with an ability to play in space 106 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: and make plays, and so hopefully he'll bring that here. 107 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: You know, we just spoke to him on the phone. 108 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: He was very excited. He's from Katie. I think that's 109 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: really pretty cool too. So we're excited to get started 110 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: working with them. Coach. Most of these guys that we've taught, 111 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: not most of all of them, as we've talked to 112 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: them and down interviews with them after they've been drafted, 113 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: the one thing that almost all of them have said 114 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: is how much they love the preparation of the game. 115 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: We talked to Kylie last night, He's like, I study 116 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: tight ends, Like that's what I do. I look at 117 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: tight as I'm like a film junkie. That seemed to 118 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: be a pretty common theme. Was that something that you 119 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: guys set out to look for in the players that 120 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: you were drafting this year. Yeah, I think the big 121 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: thing that we look for is it's not just skill. 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if they're on the draft board, they 123 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: have some level of skill. They're talented guys. I think 124 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: the big thing that we did a good job of 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: and hopefully it plays out, you know, hopefully it plays 126 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: out the way we believe it will, is tough smart, 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: dependable guys. What does that mean? You know, guys that 128 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: are physically tough, mentally tough. It's not an easy game 129 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: to play, especially at this level. Guys that are smart, 130 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: that understand the preparation, that understand Uh, you know what 131 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: it means to watch film, communicate with your teammates, communicate 132 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: with your coaches. And guys that are dependable. You know, 133 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: guys that are fair, you know, have a clean bill 134 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: of healths that are dependable in the locker room, They're 135 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna be there every day, They're gonna be out at 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: practice every day. I think as we continue to build it, Uh, 137 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: that's that's those are going to be a very important 138 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: characteristics to us. Bill, you have the two young tackles 139 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: in Titus Howard and Max Sharping. Yep. Brian mentioned competition 140 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: on Thursday night after the Howard selection. How challenging is 141 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: it logistically to run a competition in training camp with 142 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: just the amount of guys that you have on the 143 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: offensive line, particularly the investments with those two guys in 144 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Tightus and Max. Yeah, it's it is challenging. Mike, It's 145 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: a good question. I think the big thing is that 146 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: we have to have a plan We had that plan 147 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: going into the draft, you know, really envisioning us being 148 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: able to go out and be able to draft one 149 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: or two guys like we did. And so that plan 150 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: now gets put into action starting with rookie Mini camp, 151 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: and then as we move to the last week of 152 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: Phase two and then OTAs and then training camp. We 153 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: have a specific plan. You know, as you guys come 154 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: out to practice in training camp, you'll see that plan 155 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: in action. You know, starting Titus off at tackle, you know, 156 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: he can play either side, right or left, but also 157 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: making sure that we get him enough reps at guard 158 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: where he understands that, but also not overloading him. So 159 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: I said a bunch of things right there, right, Well, 160 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: you got to focus on one position. You focus on tackle, 161 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: and then in the extra periods that you have you 162 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: work at guard a little bit. The thing which Sharping 163 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: is a similar deal, although he's more of a tackle, 164 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: so we'll play him a lot at tackle and he'll 165 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: get a bunch of reps at tackle. And and the 166 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, they've got some really good 167 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: guys in the room to learn from. You know, you've 168 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: got Nick Martin, You've got Zach Fulton, you've got guys 169 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: that have played in the league quite a bit. We've 170 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: got a really strong room of character guys in that room, 171 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and I think those guys will do a good job 172 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: of mentoring these guys. And we're really excited to be 173 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: able to to add Howard and Sharping to our to 174 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: our team, very excited about it. Is it tougher with 175 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: the offensive lineman until you can really hit a lot 176 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: because the corners I'm looking at Lonnie Johnson and Xavier 177 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Crawford and whoever else you might bring in, and those 178 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: guys and the OTAs can you can get a pretty 179 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: good look at them in the passing game defense, right, Yeah, sure, 180 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: the OTAs as. You guys know, you've been around me 181 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: for a while. Now. OTAs is really a passing camp. 182 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean you don't have pads on, so you're really 183 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: working the passing game. And I think that's the big thing. 184 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Like you said, when you get to training camp, you 185 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: have a certain amount of full padded practices that you 186 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: can have, so you're really planning, planning on you know, 187 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: focusing on the running game. You're not gonna just run 188 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: the ball one hundred percent of the time in training camp. 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: But that's gonna be a big part of the focus 190 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: of training camp is the running game. You'll you'll obviously, 191 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, teach them the running game, work on it 192 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: versus bags and things like that in OTAs, and then 193 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: really emphasize the running game. And that does that That's where, really, 194 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: where where guys separate themselves, you know, when the full 195 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: pads go on at every position, but especially in the trenches. Coach, 196 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: most players in college at some point face some sort 197 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: of adversity. Now, the adversity that Lonnie Johnson has faced 198 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: in his entire life, yeah, kind of speaks to where 199 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: he's got to, what he's had to overcome. How much 200 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: did you value that, what he had to go through 201 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: to get to the point where he is today, how 202 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: much did you value that in the draft process. That's 203 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: a big part of it, Johnny. You know, you when 204 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 1: you think about everybody's life takes different twists and turns 205 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: and uh as you guys know from from our staff, 206 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: from me, from Brian, you know, overcoming adversity is a 207 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: big thing, you know, and that that adds to the 208 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: character and the culture of your locker room. If you 209 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: have guys that have been able to you know, pick 210 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: themselves up, you know, help their families, uh, and and 211 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: go on and be successful. Maybe they've had times during 212 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: their lives where things weren't going very well, but they 213 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: stuck to it, they figured out how to improve. And 214 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: that's really, in many ways, what the NFL is all about. 215 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: It's an improvement league. It's it's coming in one day 216 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: at a time, trying to get better every day. That's 217 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: a big focus for us in our off season program. 218 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: We've had a really good start to our off season 219 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: program with the theme of just getting better every day. Everybody, staff, players, 220 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: everybody just trying to get better one day at a time. 221 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, that says a lot of 222 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to Lonnie Johnson coach, I always find 223 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: it interestingness rookie mini camp and the tryout camp and 224 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the way everything kind of looks so together without much 225 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: practice at all, and you guys meet and they're out 226 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: there running plays, and you gotta bring in a quarterback 227 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: because I don't think any of your guys are eligible 228 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: for that, right, So you have to bring in one 229 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: quarterback at least, sir. Yeah, I mean, you know, I 230 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: don't know your definition of together. Sometimes it's like it's 231 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: a it's it's a rookie mini Camp's awesome, it's fun. 232 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a you know, these guys come in 233 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: the building. They'll start to get here that Thursday before 234 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: Rookie Mini caamp. And the reason why we bring them 235 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: in like we do so that we can still have 236 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: him here if you brought him in, uh, you know 237 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: earlier than that, you can bring him in the two spots. 238 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: We bring them in at the second spot because we 239 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: can keep them here the right and then we can 240 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: incorporate them into the last week of Phase two and 241 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: then OTAs. But rookie Mini caamp is great, it's exciting. 242 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: There's a wide eyed look on these guys. They're making 243 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: the jump from college football to professional football. It's a 244 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: lot different. Uh. And and you know, we try to 245 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: be as organized as we and we have a lot 246 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: of guys in there. We have tryout guys and uh, 247 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, but it's a very important weekend, you know. 248 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: As you know, over the years we've had guys that 249 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: have you know, look at Dylan Cole guys that were 250 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: tryout guys, Corey Moore, Uh that that ended up making 251 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: our football team. So it's a it's an important weekend 252 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: for us to be able to evaluate guys and start 253 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: to orient them orientation wise into our program. Coach Brian, 254 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: I've heard him says a few times and we've probably 255 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: talked about this. There's character and then there's football character. 256 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: As you look at a particular prospect, what does it 257 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: mean for a player to have good football character something 258 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: that you want to have in these prospects. Yeah, I mean, 259 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I think it always goes back. You're gonna hear me 260 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: say this a lot. I'm really I think our staff, 261 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: you know, our scouting staff, Brian and I were really 262 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: convicted in tough, smart and dependable guys. That's what we're 263 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: looking for. We want guys that love football, that have 264 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: a passion for it. You don't have to pull their 265 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: teeth to go practice. They love they can't wait for practice. 266 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: They love the competition of practice, They of the preparation 267 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: in the meeting rooms. They have a thirst for football. 268 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: And I think that's really what we're talking about when 269 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: it when it comes to a football character. Football is 270 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: a difficult sport to play and it takes a certain 271 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: type of person to play that sport. And uh, you know, 272 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: we're We're excited about the draft class that we have, 273 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's you know what it means when 274 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: when we talk about football character, Bill, how would you 275 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: compare Wearing the tight end you guys pick last night, 276 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: with the guys you drafted last year at tight end, 277 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: Haigins and Thomas. Yeah, it's a pretty interesting question. You know, 278 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Wearing is a guy that we spent a lot of 279 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: time with. Timmy Kelly went out there, worked him out. 280 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: The scouts spent a lot of time with him. Will 281 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: Long spent a lot of time with him at the combine. 282 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: We spend time with him in the combine room. He's 283 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: a guy that we feel has a lot of ability 284 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: in both blocking and in the passing game. He's a 285 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: very strong player. He's a guy that is a very 286 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: good route runner. He's athletic, he's got good hands, and 287 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: he's got a lot to learn. You know, he really 288 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: hasn't played a whole lot of football. He's done a 289 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: lot of different things in his athletic career up to 290 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: this point, but not a lot of football. So, you know, 291 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: we were really really impressed with them when he came here. Uh, 292 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: he learned, you know, he learned our system and the 293 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: day that he was here, you know, the testing that 294 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: we did with him, we were impressed with them, and 295 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: he was. He just he kept telling us, you know, 296 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work as hard as I can every single day. 297 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he just kept saying it to us. And 298 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're looking forward to to working with his 299 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: athletic ability and the type of person that he is. 300 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever played water polo? But you do? You know? 301 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: You know? Look, I don't. I do not for one 302 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: second think that I'm an expert in water polo, but 303 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: I will tell you that if you've ever seen have 304 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: you ever seen brutal? The shape that you have to 305 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: be into tread water for that long of a period 306 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: of time is seriously well. We were talking to him 307 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: about it last night. It was fascinating. He's tell us 308 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: all the tips and tricks he learned. Yeah, well, you know, 309 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to know all his tips and gets here. 310 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I just want to know how he plays tight. He said, 311 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: the rest can't see anything underwater, so guys are getting 312 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: away with all sorts of stuff. I have no comment. 313 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: There's bellow Brian. Right after the draft, we caught up 314 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: with him on Texans Draft Live along with Mike Meltzer 315 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Cumanist Company in the studio and Paul Gallant kept us 316 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: company as well. On Friday night, he sat it on 317 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: the Kahale Wearing Interview and we're gonna hear that one 318 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: in a little bit here, But coming up a little 319 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: bit of a deeper look into the AFC South, how 320 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: the division did, how the Texans stack up. Now that 321 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: the draft is done, let's get into more and some 322 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: of the undrafted free agents reportedly signing with the Texans. 323 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio. We're in the Hunday Texans Radio studio, 324 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you. As tomorrow, Dpe 325 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and Drew will be on the show. We'll hear from 326 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: general manager Brian Game. Will hear a bunch of stuff 327 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: about the draft which is behind us now, and the 328 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: rookie Mini Camp is coming up late next week. OTAs 329 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: before you know it, May twentieth, the team will be 330 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: out there slinging it at the Houston Methodist Training Center 331 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: there in phase two of the offseason conditioning program and 332 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: nine week program. We talked about it getting to work 333 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and they've been added. In fact, 334 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I saw all the guys doing conditioning this morning. It's 335 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: a bonding experience too, right, Johnny. I mean, even though 336 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: they're not working out with the ball the coaches that 337 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: directly yet in terms of what they'll be doing on 338 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: the field in September, they're spending a lot of time 339 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: with each other and this is valuable in terms of 340 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: team building, no doubt. This is a it's a great time. 341 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the pressure is off in 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: a sense, but there's no game on Sunday, so you 343 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: go in there and you put in the work, have 344 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: a little fun doing it. Guys get to know each other, 345 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and that's the one thing that Bill Bryan's talked a 346 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: lot about. Twenty sixteen teams different than seventeen seventeens, different 347 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: eighteen eighteens, differ than nineteen nineteen, to be different than twenty. So, yes, 348 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: there are some holdovers and there are some guys that 349 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: have been in this building for a while together, But 350 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: then there are a lot of new pieces. Sean Gibson, 351 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Brian body Calhoun, there are a lot of new pieces 352 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: coming into this to incorporate into whatever the Texans are doing, 353 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: so that I think is hugely valuable in the fact 354 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you don't have a game to prepare for on Sunday, 355 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: I think allows for that bonding to take place. And 356 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I think you saw that last year. The bond on 357 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: this team was very very tight. Yeah, I mean, and 358 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: they survived mentally and psychologically through Owen three and on 359 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the field as well. Obviously with the eleven wins and 360 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: a division title. A division title, it's going to be 361 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: harder to get that. Ever, we'll discuss that in just 362 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: a few moments here, But let's zoom in here. We've 363 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: talked a bunch about Titus Howard. We talked about him Friday, obviously, 364 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: the day after he was drafted, as we embarked on 365 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: rounds two and three, and you talk about Lonnie Joseph 366 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: or Lonnie Johnson rather the second round draft choice, cornerback 367 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: from Kentucky, a very highly touted guide. He's got an 368 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: interesting story. The third round pick really interesting as well. 369 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: I know we had two picks go off in the 370 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: second round with Max Sharping, but let's talk about the 371 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: third rounder here. How surprised were you and how much 372 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: pre draft work had you done on Kahale Wearing? He 373 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: was in your one hundred right, he was. He It's 374 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: funny because we had our Monday morning meeting as we 375 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: always do, and a few weeks ago, probably about a month, 376 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: about a month or five weeks ago, we had a 377 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: meeting on Monday, and I just remember thinking as we 378 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: were talking, like Okay, what are the things I gotta do? 379 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: And you were like, given the three things you're working. 380 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I was like, well, you know, I'm working on the 381 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred. And then they got me thinking, Okay, 382 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: there are guys I need to watch, and I had 383 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: his name written down in my notebook. So when I 384 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: opened my notebook today, I had like five or six 385 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: names written down, like I need to study these guys 386 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that I get them in the hundred 387 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: because their measurables tell me yes, they should be there. 388 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: But I haven't had a chance to study him. And 389 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: Wearing was one of those because he was he was 390 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a junior and he hadn't played a ton. I geah, 391 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: he played San Diego State, but he's didn't played a 392 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: whole lot. But then in his junior year he started 393 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: really showing the skills and the athleticism was all starting 394 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: to come together. Then when he went to the combine. 395 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: He blew it up, and I was like, I need 396 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: to watch this guy. But look, okay, let's let's let's 397 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: let me let me wait on this, let me get 398 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: some of the others, let me get everybody done. And 399 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: then I had he and Dawson Knox from Ole, miss. 400 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Those are two guys that wanted to study and see 401 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: whether I wanted to put him in the hundred. So 402 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: I watched wearing I went, WHOA, this guy absolutely needs 403 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: to be in there. I watched like three games and 404 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: he lined up at tight end block. Physical wasn't the cleanest, 405 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't like t J. Hockinson from Iowa 406 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: where he's just knocking guys on their backside. But then 407 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: he got in a passing game and to see him 408 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: run routes, I mean I felt like now he said 409 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: he you know, he told us on Friday night it 410 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: was you know, he watched Grock. I see Kelsey, I 411 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: see Travis just the athlete, the way he moves away, 412 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: he runs. Size comparison is about there. They wear the 413 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: same war the names, same number eighty seven. He might 414 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: might be able to wear that one here, but I 415 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: saw Kelsey and I just I was blown away by 416 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: his athleticism, but I also knew he was still raw, 417 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: and that's why I think I had him at number eighty. 418 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: I had him at number eighty seven. I don't forget it, 419 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: because it was one spot below where he went. I 420 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: adam eighty seven, he went at eighty six. I put 421 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Dawson Knox at ninety seven, and he went at ninety six. 422 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: So I got those two kind of late to the 423 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: late to the party. But in my final version of 424 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: the hundred, I had those two in there. But I 425 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: was surprised. I mean, we talked about the pick right before, 426 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: and it's funny because we were talking about what I 427 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna be and what we didn't 428 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: think it was gonna be, and we knew it was 429 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be a quarterback, and I'm pretty sure it 430 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be an inside linebacker. At that point. We 431 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: thought running back, safety, you know, those are all options, 432 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking tight end. Yeah, man, they used 433 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: two picks on a tight end. And right as we 434 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: were starting to talk about tight ends, in my mind, 435 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: I had Collie wearing in my mind, just because if 436 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: it's a wild card, you might was ago with the 437 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: most athletic wildcard there is, and that's the guy and 438 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: looked up and that was the name. Well, let's hear 439 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: from him now, Khille Wearing. We talked with him Friday 440 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: night during our coverage. Paul Gallant was sitting in and 441 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Johnny asked him about football in the professional ranks. When 442 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: that came into the picture for Khille Wearing really wasn't 443 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: until after the Until after the the season was over. 444 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: I know, I really didn't have much of an idea 445 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: that I was able to leave, and really just because 446 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: I was in the moment, taking week by week with 447 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: my team, just trying to win games. So it wasn't 448 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: until after the season where I where some people started 449 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: reaching out to me, and I started talking to some 450 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: people that I trusted and looked up to, and that's 451 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: why I decide to leave. What is it about your 452 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: game that sets you apart? Um? I think it said 453 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: I'm a great athlete. I'm a complete player at the 454 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: tight end position. I feel very confident in my blocking 455 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: and I feel confident that I can beat anyone on 456 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: the field, run into any type of route on the route. True, 457 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about not specializing in one 458 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: sport these days, you know, we've kind of swung back 459 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: to play different sports. It's good for you athletically. What 460 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: can you tell us about that? I would imagine you're 461 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: a big proponent of that. Yeah, no, definitely, I believe 462 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: the same exactly what you just said. I don't think 463 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: kids these days should should just stick to one sport 464 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: and focus on that the whole their whole life. I'm 465 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: big believer in and playing every sport and every season 466 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and you know, trying different things and seeing what you like. 467 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: Because for me, whatever sport or whatever sport I was 468 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: playing in the season growing up was my favorite sport. Um. 469 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: So you get so many things out of out of 470 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: each sport that makes you makes you into an athlete. 471 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: And I think football is all about being being being 472 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: the best athlete. All right, Collie? So why football? Then? 473 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: What was it about football that eventually, as a senior 474 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: in high school you said, Hey, you know what, I've 475 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: never played the sport before. I don't know it real well, 476 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go give it a go. Why was 477 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: football in the cards for you as a senior and 478 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: then obviously turned into this an NFL career. Yeah? Well, really, 479 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: I just I decided to play football really late, probably 480 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: about five days before our first game. I've always been 481 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: really curious about in the sport, and I've and uh. 482 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: I took it week by week and every single week, 483 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, my team we had a really good team 484 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: and uh and with really good guys on the team 485 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and we're we're winning. I was just falling in love 486 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: with a sport every single week. Um, the more I 487 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: learned about it, the more I was getting obsessed about it. 488 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: So it wasn't until the end of the season where 489 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: my my high school coach said that, um, you know, 490 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: you could go play college football if you want. And 491 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, no, I'll get out of here. 492 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm about I'm a basketball player. I 493 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: was looking to play basketball in college and then and 494 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: when he told me that, I mean, I would instantly 495 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: like started emailing coaches, every single uh college coach I could. 496 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until the to San Diego State took 497 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: gave me a walking opportunity and I was obsessed with 498 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: a game of football that I jumped on that as 499 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: soon as it was it was an option. I'm jealous 500 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: of you. It sounds like you can just walk onto 501 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: any player, build any court and just kick everyone's butt. Now, 502 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: can you play quidditch? No, I think when it domes 503 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: a water polo, I want to hear the worst part 504 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: of water polo for you, because that is a brutal, 505 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: sometimes barbaric looking sport. Has there ever been a time 506 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: where you were playing you're under water for like five 507 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: seconds some guys got his hand on your skull trying 508 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: to drive you to the bottom of the water. Oh, 509 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: all the time. People will dig their dig their feet 510 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: and if your suit just and use it as a 511 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: momentum for them to shoot up and push you down. 512 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of dirty, crazy things to go into 513 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: that water. And you know, when there's a lot of splashing, 514 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: the water gets white and the rest can't see under 515 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: the water. So that's when that's when things get a 516 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: little crazy. So um, it really teaches you a lot 517 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: of things on toughness and uh, all types of different 518 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: things to hand eye coordination that that carry over to 519 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: um football and just being in that and just being 520 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: a great athlete. You know, it works on your core 521 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: and your legs. Um. So, so yeah, I really enjoyed 522 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: my time in the pool. But but now I'm on 523 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: the field, and I couldn't be happier. Collie. When I 524 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: watch you, you were eighty seven, and I watch you 525 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: at your size and the way you can run, and 526 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: when you get on the open field, you remind me 527 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: of somebody in the NFL, nave Travis Kelsey. And I 528 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know how much you follow the NFL at this point, 529 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: but is there anybody that you sort of pattern your 530 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: game after or you look at and say, I'm like 531 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: that guy in the NFL right now. So as soon 532 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: as I transitioned from receiver to tight end in college, 533 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: I immediately started watching Cronk. He was the first guy 534 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: that popped up when I was when I was searching 535 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: tight ends and uh because um but anyway, so I 536 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: just watched Growing twenty four seven anything I could, and 537 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: then eventually transitioned to to zach Ertz. And I really 538 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed patting my game after zach Ertz because I think 539 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: he never takes a playoff, and I think he does 540 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: so well getting himself open and even when he's blocking, 541 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: he's he's, like I say, he's never taking the playoff, 542 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, singing, singing the hips and really getting into 543 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: people but really, I'm a tight end junkie. So I've 544 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: watched every single tight end college and NFL, and I'm 545 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: constantly studying trying to take the things they do well 546 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: and add to my toolbox. You worked out with the 547 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Shawn Watson in Los Angeles before. What was your impression 548 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: of the Sean when you were out there with him? Oh? Man, 549 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: he's He's awesome. He's a leader, and whenever I you know, honestly, 550 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: when I was running routes with him, it was amazing 551 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: how no matter what route I ran and where I was, 552 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, I thought I could almost close my eyes 553 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: and the ball is just gonna stick in my hands 554 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: because he puts it in that perfect spot every time. 555 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: So I couldn't be thrilled to I can't be thrilled 556 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: in that to get a hold of m deshaun It 557 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and get to connect with him once again, because I'm 558 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: thrilled to spend every second day he's available to work 559 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: with him and really get on the same page at 560 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: tode tight end for the Texans Kahille Wearing. Next up, 561 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: let's look at the draft and the undrafted free agents 562 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: for the Texans and how the rest of the AFC 563 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: South looks as well. Now that the draft is in 564 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: the rear view mirror. It's Texans Radio. It's an exciting 565 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: time of year in the NFL. Not exactly as exciting 566 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: as September, but certainly exciting as you see teams loading 567 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: up with draft choices, undrafted free agents getting ready for OTAs. 568 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: You can feel it coming. It's good. It's still a 569 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: few months away, but you know it's on the way. 570 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 1: Mark Vanderman and John Harris with you on Texans All 571 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Access here from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. Yeah. So 572 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: let's see you get May, June, July. Then we're done 573 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: three months, Johnny, three months, and you're there less than 574 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: three months until the start of training camp. Well, let's 575 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: sound okay. We got OTAs and mini camps coming up. Yeah, 576 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: and then once that hits, you've got the five five 577 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: weeks six week desert. Yep. I mean it's on. So 578 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: once we get to that, it's like, look, when this 579 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: break is over, it's on. It's I kind of like 580 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: I don't like the desert necessarily. Look, we're still doing 581 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: radio shows five days a week or with the desert. 582 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: It's not like I like the desert. But it is 583 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: the calm before the storm. It's like, everybody, take a 584 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: deep breath, here you go. That's kind of the way 585 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I look at it. Yeah, and then Camp. I really 586 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: obviously enjoy Camp because you know, it's it's the ramp 587 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: up period. And then the moment of total angst and 588 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: stress for me is about twenty minutes prior to kick 589 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: off of the opener in September, the regular season opener. 590 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Because I feel like, now you're really you know, you're 591 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: talking about on the clock with the draft. I feel like, 592 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: now you're on the record. This is it, this is 593 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, as far as what we do, as far 594 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: as what they do, as far as everything. Now you're 595 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: really writing history. You know. I think the preseason has 596 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: its place. I've always said this. I enjoy the preseason, 597 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: but I enjoy the preseason because it gets you ready 598 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: and then when the real stuff starts, it is on. 599 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is documented NFL history, and I don't 600 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: want to overstay it, but sports wise, I'm not. It's history, 601 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: it's NFL films. It's the stuff you'll see for dozens 602 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: and dozens of years, if not more, if it's really good. 603 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: And that's what you look forward to. So I can't wait. 604 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: But here we are in this phase of you got 605 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: your draft class. Now They're not going to announce the 606 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents officially for another week or so, maybe sooner, 607 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they the Texans tend to announce 608 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that later. They want to get the physicals. We've actually 609 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: had names leak out there that turn out to not 610 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: be coming here after all for different reasons. Sometimes they 611 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: go with a different teams. Sometimes they just don't want 612 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: to play football anymore. It just it happens. It happens, Yeah, absolutely, 613 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: all right, So but you tell me if some of 614 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: the reported names of undrafted free agent signings here, who's 615 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: intriguing to you? You know, you see these guys. The 616 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: funny thing is also Johnny in the age of social media, 617 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: these guys that are own little public relations machines, you know, 618 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: Johnny Dixon from Ohio State tweets out that Hey, I'm 619 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: coming to Houston. Okay, Johnny, here we go. How's Johnny 620 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Dixon from Ohio State? Because you look at receiver and 621 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: that's a position where they could certainly use some extra help, 622 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: especially with the health situation risks. Yeah, he was a 623 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: guy that I actually had my top two fifteen. I 624 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: took the hundred beyond beyond a hundred, which I'm sure surprises. 625 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: So I talked about Johnny Dixon, and I thought for 626 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: sure that he would get drafted. In fact, my scuttering 627 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: report starts with Dixon was just one of the three 628 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: Buckeyes that'll get drafted. And they had four wide receivers 629 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: at Ohio State and all sort of shared the rock 630 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: and shared it pretty well. It's a really good video 631 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: of wide receivers coach Brian Hartline, you remember him, who's 632 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: the wid reships coach at the House State Now with 633 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: Terry McLaren on his right, Johnny Dixon's left, and they 634 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to be receiver at Ohio State, 635 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: and Hardline pulled out a few plays showing Dixon Shoan 636 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: McLaren and what great teammates they were. It was really 637 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: interesting to watch, and you could just see when Dixon 638 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: gets the ball in his hands, things happen quickly. I mean, 639 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: he's a four four guy. I think his official time 640 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: was four four one at the combine, so he's got 641 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: some juice. Thirty seven half ins vertical ten foot broad jumps, 642 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: so he's got some juice. He's got to get the 643 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. So I was a little mystified 644 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: as to why he wasn't drafted. I don't know exactly 645 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: what it was, but he's a name that if you 646 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: watched college football, it should be recognizable that he was 647 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: one of those three receivers, Paris Campbell being one and 648 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: went to Indianapolis. And then Terry McLaren, who I think went. 649 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: I think he got drafted in the third round. I 650 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: can't remember where he went, but he I think he 651 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: went the third round. And then you got Johnny Dixon. 652 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: And I think Dixon's got a great opportunity given the 653 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: fact that he's played against top notch competition, the Big Ten. 654 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: He's played some big ball games. He's got that speed. 655 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: Receivers a tough nut to crack here, because you know, 656 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: you've got Hopkins, You've got Fuller, you got qt, you 657 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: got those three, you got DeAndre Carter still in the mix, 658 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: You've got Vincent Smith still here, you got Jester Wea. 659 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a tough nut to crack and wide receiver. But 660 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: what have we unfortunately seen at receiver the last few years. 661 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: Injury injuries. And look at twenty seventeen, remember camp, and 662 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: you have all these guys showing up, and that's when 663 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: they signed Ellington and things happen here, So you might 664 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: as well take your shot. By the way, McLaren went 665 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: to the Washington Redskins, that's right, that's right, because he 666 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: ended up with Dwayne Haskins. In fact, it was Dwayne 667 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: Haskins who I saw was the very first tweet he 668 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: send a tweeted de Shaun Watson saying you got a 669 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: real one bra. He said that about Johnny Dixon, saying 670 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: Deshan Watson. So I don't disagree with that. I think 671 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I think Johnny's got a great opportunity to push and 672 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: again staying healthy. If you're an undrafted guy, the one 673 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: thing you want to do every single day is be 674 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: on that practice field because that is going to give 675 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: you opportunity every single day. So I think Johnny Dixon 676 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: was a was a great pick up. And as soon 677 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: as I thought I was like, we got Johnny Dixon, 678 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: We got Johnny Dixon and we didn't have to draft him, 679 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I was I was really through it. You're so right, 680 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to be riding that bike Oh my gosh, 681 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: remember Mike Westoff in that hard Knox with the Jets 682 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: and looking over at the guys riding the bike. I 683 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: hate those guys. Now, it's not their fault that they're heard, 684 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: but jeezus, I get it because you want to see 685 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: them contribute. You want to see what they've got. You 686 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: can't do it if they're on the bike. Who else 687 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: popped out to you in this undrafted free agent reported 688 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: list and not reported by the Texans but by others. 689 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: Who else jumped out at you? Who might be coming here? Well? 690 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: We talked all day all draft, really all draft season. 691 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: We talked about running backs. They draft the running back, 692 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: The draft the running back. So my eyes immediately went 693 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: to who they're gonna who they were gonna sign as undrafted, 694 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: And I told the story that if they didn't draft 695 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: the running back, I wasn't going to freak out because 696 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: they had done that before where they didn't draft the 697 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: running back when you expected them too. And then they 698 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: signed two undrafted cod free agents. One was Jeremiah Johnson 699 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: from Orgon, who I really loved, and the other one 700 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: was some guy named Foster. And it turned out that 701 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: Arian Foster was the best back this organization's ever In 702 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: his tweet, by the way of the of the big 703 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: scene and Game of Thrones. I don't want to be 704 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: a spoiler here, but he tweeted his security camera footage 705 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: from his living room when the big thing happened last night, 706 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I gave of Thrones and it's really good. It's it's 707 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: so good, Yeah it is. It's just it's just funny 708 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to see. It's kind of like a sports thing, you know. 709 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of tweets out there. 710 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: One of them is like this bar in England reacting 711 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: to a soccer you know when, but they used it 712 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: for the Game of Thrones thing last night, so it's 713 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool. So I had to really lose sleep. So 714 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: to that end, I wanted to see who they were 715 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna sign, and then I saw they signed two two 716 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: backs that I want to say polar opposites, but are 717 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: pretty much polar opposites. The Mare Crockett from out of Missouri. 718 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: When he was a freshman in twenty sixteen, I thought 719 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: I thought he was destined for greatness. I thought he 720 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: was a first round on the way it's gonna happen, 721 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: And then injuries just really curtailed his career. That really 722 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of slowed him down. Now he was able to 723 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: get back in twenty eighteen and play full season, but 724 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: wasn't quite where he wasn't twenty sixteen. I mean, his 725 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: tape in twenty sixteen is a freshman is just whoa wow. 726 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: This guy's gonna be He'll be if not first round, 727 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: he'll be a second rounder. But the injuries just got him. 728 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: So I feel like you're you're buying low on Crockett 729 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: for sure, and he's a bigger guy, but mark his 730 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: numbers measurement wise. And in fact, I was looking at 731 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: him yesterday because I went and I scrubbed him from 732 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: Pro Day five eleven two twenty six ran a four 733 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: to four was Pro Day with a thirty seven in vertical. 734 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: So dude's got some skills. There's no doubt about that 735 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: size speed. That's it right there. And then they signed 736 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's polar opposite Kron Higden, who I saw 737 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, and I remember writing about Max Sharping. 738 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: When you stand next to Sharping, you're like, well, I 739 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: feel small. You're standing next to Higden and you're like, well, 740 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: I feel tall. Higden's a little guy, but he runs 741 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: his guts out. Mark. I saw him at the Senior Bowl, 742 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: just pinball off guys. But he never you know, what 743 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: do they say about somebody that just is always gonna 744 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: That guy has no chill. He runs like he has 745 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: no chill. He just goes. He just runs his butt off. 746 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: And the thing you like about him at Michigan was 747 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't a spread offense where he was just running 748 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: everything outside and running outside the numbers and all that 749 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: they were running isolation. They were running whams, they were 750 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: running crunch plays. They were running him in between the tackles. 751 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: And as a shorter guy, won't say a little guy 752 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: is a shorter guy. He found his way through there. 753 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: He's two hundred and eight pounds, but he ran four 754 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: four nine to combine, had twenty one reps to two 755 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: twenty five on a bench press with a thirty four 756 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: inch vertical on a tenth three broads up. So he's 757 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: got some juice. He's strong. He's very interesting. And when 758 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Amazon did that show for the NFL films called All 759 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: or Nothing, they did the Cardinals that did Cowboys well, 760 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: decided to do one on Michigan in twenty seventeen, and 761 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: they featured Karn Higden in that it's very interesting young man. 762 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I want to say that he's got a two year 763 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: old daughter, two or three year old daughter, so had 764 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: to grow up, had to mature and deal with that 765 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: situation while he was running the Rocket Michigan. But he 766 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: was the guy they're running back that's coming out next year. 767 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: He's got Chris Evans who went back. I believe this 768 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: first senior year, Evans was the more explosive, the more hype, 769 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: the more athletically gifted, and yet you couldn't get Higgen 770 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: out of the lot of So with Higden and Crockett 771 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: coming in, I think one of them is gonna end 772 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: up making the fifty three. Almost the Matt tells you 773 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: it almost has to happen. Well. Bill O'Brien also mentioned 774 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: to us on Saturday that, yeah, you never know what 775 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: veterans are available, you know when the cuts come following 776 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: the fourth preseason game. But I'm watching Higden highlights right now. 777 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: He's not exactly pocket Hercules with the legs of Maurice Jones, No, no, 778 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: but he's a smaller guy. He might be difficult to 779 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: find between the tackles and he can get to the 780 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: outside and make plays, and hey, who knows. I mean, 781 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I think everybody who's drafted, and I'm 782 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: sure everybody's signed as an undrafted free agent, fits the profile, 783 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: the psychological profile that they want of guys who absolutely 784 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: love ball and are just gonna give it everything they got, 785 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: which sounds simplistic, but it's easier said than done, and 786 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: they've done their very best to find it. Well to 787 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: your point, mark when you have I always as a defender, 788 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: I hated smaller I hated shorter running backs because especially 789 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: ones that had had some quickness to him, because they 790 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: could get on you so quick, and if they're strong 791 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: like hidden is, then they have the ability to break 792 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: through tackles no matter how big you are. You might 793 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: be a two hundred fifty pound linebacker and all of 794 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: a sudden you're looking, you're looking for the running back 795 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: and then he's on you and you're not ready to 796 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: make that tackle. He can embarrass you because you're not 797 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: just gonna hang on, you know, to make a tackle 798 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: and just bring him down. He's gonna run through that 799 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: arm tackle. And Higden's that kind of guy. But at 800 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, you could tell he was running. I 801 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: mean he didn't. There was no hesitation, he didn't wait. 802 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: He ran to where the whole was supposed to be, 803 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: and if wasn't there, he tried to make one's he's 804 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: very he's very interesting in this mix. Karn Higden from 805 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: Michigan and to Mario Crockett from Missouri. Okay, so give 806 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 1: me another guy or two. I liked and of course 807 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 1: I liked it for a couple of reasons. Javier Edwards, 808 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: big big nose tackle from out of Colorado. I watched 809 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 1: him against USC, just taking USC offensive linement and throw him, 810 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: as Drudooria said, like a throw pillow, and I was 811 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: like whoa. And the Texas worked him out and then 812 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: also had him on local Pro day because he's from 813 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: Davis High School here in Houston. So size inside. I 814 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: don't know what his overall. Let's see if I can 815 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: find his numbers real quick. But he's a big guy. 816 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: I want to say he's like three hundred and thirty 817 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: five pounds, but I don't want to put that on him. 818 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: If it's if it's not. But he is a really large, 819 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: large individual. And he went to Juco route, he went 820 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: to Blind and then ended up in Colorado. He had 821 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: to get offers from a few other places. But I 822 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: just love seeing another local guy stay home, come play 823 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: for the local team and have an opportunity to camp 824 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: because look, DJ Reader inside, where where else is your size? 825 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: Because everybody else, if you think about it, everybody else 826 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: in the interior is like twenty five two ninety. You 827 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: know good size can handle inside. But you know, something 828 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: happens with DJ. You got to be able to have 829 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: somebody that can just two gap it hold up against 830 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: a couple of blocks. Here, DJ, Donny's probably three h five, 831 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: But Javier Edwards is a big dude, so but done 832 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: is not your typical Romeo Coronel nos Tell, And they've 833 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: been operating with him at that spot absolutely, which is 834 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: which is different and maybe they want to get bigger 835 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: there maybe so and or at times anyway, well, what 836 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: do you what I could I would imagine he can play, 837 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: He could play that. They could probably play a four 838 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: man front two. He ends up being probably the shade 839 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: nose in that situation. But look, if if he's got 840 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: if he's got skills to make this fifty three man 841 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: roster and then get on a forty six game day, 842 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: and you gotta try and move he and DJ Reader 843 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: out of the Middle West can be really tough. Okay, 844 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: we only have a couple of minutes left here. But 845 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: of the three other AFC South teams who won the draft, 846 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: after the draft and we don't know again, it's gonna 847 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: take two three years to really figure all this stuff out. 848 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: You never know. But who looks good on paper following 849 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: the last weekend of April. Well, my formula on this 850 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: one essentially is when was I most upset when my 851 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: player was taken by an AFC South team? Yeah, that 852 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: happened mostly with the Titans, really mostly with the Titans. 853 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons coming off the board. He's a top four 854 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: player for me on the Harris one hundred, and he's 855 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: kind of a futures pick because he's dealing with the 856 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: ACL and he's gonna be a stud and we're gonna 857 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: have to try and find a way to block him. 858 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: Then they went and got a J Brown, who I like. 859 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: I said, I didn't think the Texas we're gonna draft 860 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: the receiver, but I really liked AJ Brown. Everything everything 861 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: about him is just smooth speachers. She runs his routes, 862 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: runs great routes, great hands, But I threw the water 863 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: bottle Friday night. You saw it. We were talking about 864 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: what the Texas would potentially do at eighty six, and 865 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: I brought up interior offensive line that maybe they had 866 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: looked that direction, and I said, one of the names 867 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: that I liked was Nate Davis. Looked up, Titans were 868 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: taking Nate David. I love him. Anny Hooker at safety, 869 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: Deandrey Walker I had at number fifty two in my 870 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: Harris one sixty eight. I loved him, but he was 871 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: dealing with injury, and I don't know how bad an 872 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: injury was if that sort of had him off teams, 873 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: radar screens and the pick at six, I didn't I 874 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: was a huge fan of I didn't watch a lot 875 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: of David Long, but he was the Big twelve defensive 876 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: player of the year. So that's something they came through 877 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: with some dudes. I you know, everybody is gonna say 878 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: Chris Bout had a great draft. I think the Colts 879 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: had a good draft, but I don't know. I don't 880 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: think it was the draft they had last year. I 881 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: think Rocker sin you think of the draft they had 882 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: last year. When the draft occurred oh, I liked it. 883 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: I liked it because I liked Nelson and I like 884 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: Braydon Smith. I did not care for Darius Leonard, but 885 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: I liked I knew Braden Smith and Quinn Nelson gonna 886 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: be on an off line. You knew. I had Nelson 887 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: number one on my on my Harrison. I loved him, um, 888 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: but I knew he wasn't gonna come to the Texans, 889 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: obviously getting only third round. But I loved Quinnon Nelson. 890 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I knew that was that was a home run Bradon 891 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: Smith in the second round. I was a little upset. 892 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: I was hoping the Texas would have an opportunity to 893 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: get him. So I felt last year like that was 894 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: a home run. I did not see Darius Lenard that 895 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: that was the one that I missed because I just didn't. 896 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: I saw him at the Senior Bowl, and I'd seen 897 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: him on tape, and I just didn't see it. I 898 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: didn't see what everybody else was seeing. I missed it. 899 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: I missed Darry Slendard came into the division and he's 900 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: kicked everybody's tail, so hopefully somehow that stops. But yeah, 901 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good I thought it was 902 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: a good draft because of those two picks, not because 903 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: of Leonard. Leonard makes it a Grand Slam, but those 904 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: two I thought we weren't gonna end up making in 905 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: a home run the Coats with Rocky Sin I thought 906 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: it was a good pay. I told Ballard the Senior Bowl. 907 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna draft the corner at the first pick. Nina, 908 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna go front seven offensive line. It was like, no, 909 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: you're not. You're gonna go corner. I know what you're doing. 910 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: I've seen your team. You're going corner any way, corner 911 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: with the first pick. So I'm gonna text him and 912 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: taught him and say, hey, I knew what you were 913 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna do, even for you. Uh, all right, thanks a lot, Johnny. 914 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for tonight's show. You 915 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: can listen to it later on the app. Download the 916 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 1: Houston Texans app on your app store. Do it all right, 917 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: Have a great night, everyone, We'll be back tomorrow's six. 918 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: Go Texans.