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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Nancy Grace here, Welcome back to Killers amongst Us,

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Speaker 1: a production of iHeartMedia and Crime Online. She had at

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Speaker 1: But suddenly, out of the blue, Dawn disappears seemingly into

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Speaker 1: thin air. What happened to Dawn and why would she

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Speaker 1: leave the picture perfect life? I'm Nancy Grace, Killers amongst Us.

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Speaker 1: How does a beautiful young woman in the prime of

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Speaker 1: her life, she and her husband just launching a highly

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Speaker 1: about a gorgeous woman, Dawn Vins. How does she just

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Speaker 1: disappear into thin air? Let's start with who is Dawn Vins?

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Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to break it down

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Speaker 1: and put it back together again with me, Larry Altman,

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Speaker 1: crime reporter for The d E Breeze, freelance journalist now

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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics Jackson State University, author of Blood Beneath My

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Speaker 1: Feet on Amazon and star on a new program Poisonous

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Speaker 1: Liaisons on True Crime Network. Also with me. Special guests

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Speaker 1: David Pappin, brother of Dawn joining me out of Bradenton, Florida,

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Speaker 1: and Dana, her sister, joining me from California. Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 1: I want to first talk about who is Dawn Vins

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Speaker 1: because you know, to you, Joe Scott Morgan, you're a

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Speaker 1: death investigator. You've handled thousands of cases, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: know who you're talking about, what circles they ran, and

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Speaker 1: where are they from? Where are they likely to go? Right? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do, Nancy, as you and I are off to say,

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Speaker 1: in any kind of missing person's case, who has access

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Speaker 1: that's that is, who has familiarity with the individual. And

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Speaker 1: what we're trying to find out is who is Don

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Speaker 1: Vian's Would she just take off and head to Vegas?

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Speaker 1: Is she with a boyfriend? Did she have a lover

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Speaker 1: to our friend Joe kick Casey. Don was an amazing

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Speaker 1: person for me when I met her, and she has

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Speaker 1: brought so much goodness into my life personally and others too.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I look around and tell you so many

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Speaker 1: things because of Don. She's brought many people in the

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Speaker 1: head has she brought so many people together? And she

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Speaker 1: So is that her personality to her sister Dana, Dana again,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me about Dawn

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Speaker 1: growing up? What's her personality? Joe was absolutely right there.

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Speaker 1: She was always the happy, smiley, looking for the positive

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Speaker 1: We grew up in Burlington, Vermont. Yeah, I've been there

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Speaker 1: to ski beautiful. So question what was her interest? How

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Speaker 1: What was a team effort between the two running the restaurant.

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Speaker 1: It was a winning combination everybody with me, our Dawn's

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Speaker 1: And girl, that is beautiful that I was just a wonderful,

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Speaker 1: just got Morgan. I know you know the area well,

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Speaker 1: because down there at Anna Maria Island, they're just beautiful

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Speaker 1: a listen to this our friends at CBS. Flomita is

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Speaker 1: And joining me right now that reporter now freelance journalist,

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Speaker 1: Larry Altman. Larry, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about Lomita. Why would they choose to move

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't she put it in the bank if she

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Speaker 1: wanted to have a vacation fund or a Christmas fund?

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Speaker 1: Was it an escape fund? And what will we learn about?

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Speaker 1: A mystery text from her saying I'm starting over love Pixie,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Killers amongst us, signing off goodbye friend,